How Pugilism influenced Kodokan Judo

This video discusses the incident document in Sanzo Maruyama's "Dai Nippon Judo Shi" where Kano studied sumo and pugilism and developed what would be the predecessor of "Kata guruma".
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[@Berengier817]

A native French man translating Japanese writing onto English. You are awesome.

[@Chadi]

Thank you so much 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@Chadi]

Here’s what it said: “Therefore, the master (Kano) secretly researched the techniques of sumo wrestling and the techniques of pugilism by reading foreign physical education books, and through some grappling, devised a method, with this he succeeded in defeating his opponent. did. This was the predecessor of today's Kata guruma. In addition, the sleeve length for practice during business hours was short, less than half the length of the sleeves currently used at the Kodokan, and the hakama was such that the kneecaps protruded (this was not reasonable from the standpoint of preserving the body, so the instructor changed it to the current one). Because of this, the teacher's body was covered in scratches from the intense daily practice.”

[@gatocles99]

There was a lot more intercultural exchange going on in the martial arts than some "purists" want to acknowledge.

[@tn1881]

Katagurma was developed by Kanda Kyutaro by improving Totsuka Yoshin's Kinukatugi. You can find Totsuka Yoshin's Hankaigarami paintings, which are similar to Katagurma, by doing an image search. Totsuka Yoshin-ryu is a school of jujutsu from the Edo period. The source of the theory that Kano adopted wrestling techniques is a 2009 Japanese television broadcast, but the source is unknown. Kanda Kyutaro was a student of Totsuka-ha Yoshin-ryu, he devised kataguruma, kibisugaeshi, and morotegari from jujutsu techniques. In 1931, Kyutaro won a Japanese judo tournament using a kataguruma. The Totsuka-ha Yoshin-ryu appears in novels and records as one of the rival schools of the Kodokan. Kyutaro was not allowed to train at the Kodokan because the master of the Totsuka-ha Yoshin-ryu disliked the school, but after the master's death Kanda entered the school.

[@SoldierAndrew]

Thank you Chadi. For another historical documentary concerning Judo.

[@Chadi]

I appreciate it

[@liammalarky3483]

Interesting. When I was doing Jujutsu and Judo way back in the 1970s and 80's the "modern" self-defence training included how to deal with a boxer. Not karate, not taekwondo, not kung fu etc but boxing.

[@napalminthemorning8309]

Cos boxers are straight deadly and Kano knew it. And so did your teachers.

[@flowrepins6663]

​@@napalminthemorning8309also seems gene lebell was on it cause he defeated a boxer with judo in what could have been the first mma match ever

[@RonioFOX]

Taekwondo didn't exist that era, is far later

[@liammalarky3483]

@RonioFOX oh, it did, but not in any great measure, I agree. In the late 70's, I knew of its existence in my hometown in Scotland (it looked very like Shotokan), England, and the US. Rhee and Hee Il Cho (man of contrasts book 1980/81?) were two of the big names back then.

[@ovidiudante]

Wish I could send this to the judo teacher I met a few years ago who said boxers are just dumb animals. (Not exactly his words I think, but that's pretty much what he thought)

[@ovidiudante]

@@optimusmaximus9646 In the end all will be well

[@cdcaleo]

To call elite combat athletes like Lomachenko, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns or hundreds of Olympic medalists in boxing "dumb animals" reveals a profound ignorance.

[@user-un4uy7hr6c]

元々、柔道は当て身ありの武術だったが、当て身(パンチ)を禁止して 今のようになったが、柔道に当て身を取り入れて総合格闘技なんて形で復活している。 ボクシングは殴る事を徹底的に洗練させたものだから、ある意味、完成されたものではないか。

[@rvfree1]

Wonderful! Great example of why I fell in love with your work.

[@Chadi]

Thank you for your support throughout the years

[@daxmafesi]

Woooo first comment again sharing on hema grapplers

[@Chadi]

🙏🏻🙇🏻‍♂️

[@teovu5557]

Hema grapplers? Blood grapplers? jk I love HEMA! many great Larp'ers came from HEMA!

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@teovu5557 🤣

[@johnpittsii7524]

Thanks for the amazing video ❤

[@Chadi]

My pleasure

[@Lankavatara]

Additional thanks for the translation passage (:

[@robbybee70]

I like that throw at 4:40 a lot!

[@PicaPauDiablo1]

This is tremendous

[@Doskharaas]

Very interesting title!

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

For sure!

[@Chadi]

Thank you

[@striplingwarrior6309]

Very talented

[@dublingraphicdesignmeetup2936]

Can I point out that unarmed striking like Pugilism/boxing was an Irish martial art not British. They ruled us and copied us or tried to. Hence the pugilist boxing stance is connected with Ireland not Britain. Think about it, Celts were not walking tanks in head to toe armor. Knights had armor covering most of them and were trained in weapons and some ground grappling. Irish had striking as one of our martial arts.

[@AnonymousPerson488]

The uke looks like Yamashita Yoshitsugu, the man that went to the white house. Do you know if that's the case?

[@vids595]

Did the grappling aspects of pugilism not come from wrestling?

[@thunderkatz4219]

Not every grappling art comes from wrestling 💀

[@johncouch5648]

You have to keep in mind that all things existed in the world at the time that whatever martial art was developed. Savate and jiujitsu and karate and boxing and fencing, kung fu and ringen etc. all were around at the same time.

[@senecaknowsbest8380]

I can see a high crotch in one throw and a double leg in another except wrestlers don’t throw people over their backs like that at least if they want to stay legal according to folkstyle scholastic wrestling done in America

[@3liyyahu591]

Wait so what was the incident?

[@erikpaulson4929]

Boxing also

[@Elijah.willfight]

You shouod really look up glima

[@devriestown]

It's not even judo anymore what they teach 😅😅😅

[@cesaralvesdemoraes3187]

current bjj is more judo than current judo technique wise

[@LiamAnderson2023]

Hi Chadi i am a Muslim and i cannot bow down to other than my creator (Allah) how can i join a Dojo without bowing because last time i trained Judo they commanded me to bow and i refused so they said i couldnt train in their Dojo anymore regards - Liam

[@Chadi]

Hi Liam, bowing in Japanese is more common than people think, it’s a salute to show respect, you see it in schools and even in grocery stores, when people enter your home etc. It’s not a form of worship in judo. Hope this helps.

[@LiamAnderson2023]

@@Chadi I know it is respect but i simply cannot bow because that is a rule in my religion so is there any possible way i can do Judo without bowing?

[@Shoegazebasedgenre0.]

@@LiamAnderson2023 most muslim karateka and judoka just bowed anyway over here in Indonesia

[@LiamAnderson2023]

@@Shoegazebasedgenre0. I know but if they are true believers they do not bow so on that way they leave their religion