Evidences of God's Grace in the New Calvinism

[@blakebarner]

I grew up in a charismatic AG church in western Pennsylvania. It's refreshing to stumble upon this channel and get some real grounding in my theology from those like Tim, Paul Wascher, and John MacArthur. people in my church frequently "fell out in the Spirit", and abused the gift of tongues and prophecy. I even went to Hillsong college in Sydney, Australia and got more brainwashed. My wife and I are slowly learning true doctrine. thank you so much for sharing Tim.

[@sasa53699]

@KnightOfTheKing LOL....nice one!

[@charlesg6794]

I used to believe strongly in every negative comment written below, until, I read the "The Institutes of Christian Religion" by John Calvin and edited by Tony Lane. And I do agree with the comment that Calvin probably would roll over in his grave to find out there was a movement called 'Calvinism' that was named after him. I do believe if you give Mr. Calvin a fair shake him read that book you will change your mind about him and his teachings. ( in my case the book changed my life ). Calvin Is so respectful of God and his word. You may not agree with everything he says ( I don't agree with everything anybody says ), but you certainly will see that he is a 'man of God' who loves Him dearly. He certainly can be called our brother in Christ! May God flood you with his fulfilling mercies.

[@godslittleman5451]

Charles G that’s awesome, I believe you. I remember when I was King James only. I’d read 6 books on KJVO doctrine. The first book I read that was pro - New King James, it made more since than all 6 of the other books

[@billyr9162]

Most of them just copy negative stuff off the Internet and that's it. That's as far as they go.

[@jimgilligan9236]

Charles G I use to believe like you do now, when I was a Calvinist, then I found Jesus. You probably don’t know Him, Jesus, He is the God above Calvinism and your faith. He showed the whole world how important we all are by dying, a substitute for every single person if they choose. See, God loves humanity so much, so much are we in Gods image, God gave us freewill. Not robots, making us robots is not love. Control is not love, that’s abuse

[@billyr9162]

@@jimgilligan9236 Calvinist don't believe people are robots therefore there's no way you could have been a Calvinist.

[@jimgilligan9236]

Billy R But Bill, if we don’t have freewill we are robots. I would love to believe that God causes me to do the evil I chose but I chose it, God didn’t force me, it was my freewill. God is sovereign, Go gave up His sovereignty for a time so we could grow and learn, created in His image, that means also choice. Calvin denies freewill. God gave up His life, so He could show us love and how we can show others His love

[@sketchbook1]

Calvinism, for all its intellectual and spiritual pretensions, misunderstands not only God’s sovereignty, but also grace itself. It mashes it all into a logic-driven, man-made theological system. As they say, Christianity and Calvinism may share the same vocabulary but they have a different dictionary.

[@proudgrandparents5]

“they are two lines that are so nearly parallel, that the mind that shall pursue them farthest, will never discover that they converge; but they do converge, and they will meet somewhere in eternity, close to the throne of God, whence all truth doth spring.” Charles Spurgeon. Now by quoting Charles Spurgeon some may think that I am a “Calvinist,” but I’m not, I’m one who is simply trying to follow Jesus. I learned of that quote from someone on Alistair Begg’s staff. It helped me at the time and I think great Christian leaders should learn from him, that that is not what we should argue about. I believe both man’s responsibility AND God’s complete sovereignty are taught AS TRUTH in the Scripture. I tend to think that Satan is thrilled with this controversy in the Church. Anything that causes us to get the least bit angry or upset with one another is fuel for his fire. I believe in some of the tenets of John Calvin are surely in the Bible, but I think at times he was a religious dictator. I’ve been a part of a local Church that split over this 13 years ago and is just now beginning to recover. Satan has used this to his advantage and we have let him. Please fellow believers, this is a secondary issue, don’t let it become a test for fellowship. “ they will know we are Christians by our love.”

[@seanmccleary313]

Wait ! So I'm a Christian not because I believe in my heart on jesus dying for my sins, but because I got lucky before I was born? Hogwash!!!! John 3:16, 2 peter 3:9.

[@theeclecticcollective8279]

I would say you’re saved because of both. 1.) you believed in Jesus. 2.) God chose you before the world began.

[@TheNathanMac]

it's yes and.. The Father gives us to the Son, He predestines us, Calls us, Chooses us, Justifies us and Glorifies us, but also there is human responsibility. Our choice is not deterministic else we're only separated by the sinner in hell by our choice, which makes God slaves to us and our choice.

[@davidkugel]

I don't like the name "New Calvinism." I strongly prefer "Reformed" or believing in the doctrines of grace. If Calvin was alive today, he would not like the name. Calvin wanted all the glory to go to God, not any man, including himself. Many other Christians are completely turned off at the mention of the name "Calvin" even though they may believe in much of what he taught.

[@gailgunderson5163]

There are no "doctrines of grace" in the Bible!

[@sketchbook1]

Arminius and the Remonstrants were also Reformed. But through political intrigue and civil machinations, Calvin’s brand of Reformed theology won out.

[@livingwater7580]

Jacob Arminius was a calvinist, they both are false. they both are man made doctrines and not biblical. no one is elected to salvation before the founation of the world. this GNOSTICISM

[@lukehumphrey7517]

@@livingwater7580 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved." - Ephesians 1:3-6 ❤️

[@billyr9162]

@@livingwater7580 That gnostisism accusation is getting real old. You know how many people read The Bible and come to the same conclusion Calvin did but never knew who he was? Maybe millions of them. I was one of them. John Calvin or Gnosticism or anything else never crossed my mind when I read Ephesians 1: 5 john 6 Romans 8. Yet I understood it to mean just exactly the same thing Calvin did. And millions of other people who read it for the 1st time.

[@johntrevett2944]

Calvinist Dictionary All: The elect. Everyone: The elect. Kosmos: Greek word that means “The elect”. Whosoever: The elect. World: The elect.

[@BeyethereforePerfect777]

exactly. Calvinism is a snare to true Christianity.

[@claudinearce9109]

Your explanation was excellent! Thank you

[@billk8874]

New calvinism is one of the best things that could have happened to America. The doctrines of grace taught by the Reformers need to come back and be central in the Church. With that said, now many churches are new calvinist ? Not that many. I think new calvinists have a strong presence in the internet, and also they have some very strong pastors that are well known, and conferences with speakers. Yet new calvinists are a minority in the local church, I live in a City of 1 million people and there is only one church that I would consider new calvinist. So new calvinists do not dominate the local church, with the exception of a few megachurch pastors (which are in very few cities), in the same way they dominate the internet, conferences, books etc. The biggest challenge for the new calvinist is to plant more local churches, or plant local churches in every american city, I know this sounds ambitious but I honestly believe that new calvinism is under represented in the number of local churches.

[@kelvyquayo]

There is so much wrong with what you are saying I can't even start..

[@93556108]

Bill K, you seems to be a devout Calvinist. If calvinism were correct and God hand picks who is and is not saved, then Christianity is reduced to being an extension of Judaism. The Jews believed then and still do that they are the “chosen ones of God” because they are born physically into the Jewish family. God most certainly is the One responsible for a person being born a Jew. That is an undeniable fact. If calvinism is correct, then a Christian is born again because God chooses to save him, which is no different than God choosing to make someone a Jew.

[@kryzaly]

Why do Calvinists always seem angry? Even when John MacArthur is preaching about God's love, he seems ill tempered. Maybe I'm more sensitive to it because I grew up under a hell fire and brimstone preaching where the preacher was always yelling, but not a Calvinist. One other thing that has bothered me about Calvinism comes from John Piper.I was at his church, Bethlehem Baptist, which was wonderful and they still sang the old hymns, but at the end of the message he said if anyone wonderd if they were the elect, they should go home and work it out for themselves. There was no offer to sit and reason together and show from Scripture how to be saved. Anyway, I colored my view of Calvinism.

[@matthewhart8125]

kryzaly I'm not a Calvinist myself, as I find a lot of this movement just doesn't seem right to me. Many Calvinists are puffed up with pride at having the "right doctrine" and look down upon others as being lesser, unenlightened Christians (not all of them are like this). To me, I see this movement as a way to cause division in the Church, and it seems it has done just that! I've seen Calvinists making fun of Arminians and it strikes me as being arrogant and non-Christlike. As for me, I will not jump on either bandwagon but look to Jesus and the Cross. Calvinism is a secondary issue.

[@kryzaly]

Hi Matthew. I noticed that for some reason, Calvinism seems to appeal to people who fancy themselves as intellectuals. I would say there is much about reformed theology that is great. Usually they do a verse by verse expository form of teaching and preaching. That method works best for me when it comes to learning. They also don't throw out the hymns of the church in favor of contemporary music. There are even new hymns out there that have great theology. Example: His Mercy is More. It is sung by the Gettys and others, like Matt Boswell who are making an effort to reclaim the worship music of the church. DEspite all this, I am not convinced by the five pillars of Calvinism. Check out that hymn. It's amazing.

[@frankward7855]

I may regret that I ever responded to an internet discussion thread, but let me donate my $.02 worth! My observation is that many of the folks you refer to have certain spiritual gifts and personality that cause their delivery to ... well, sound like "that sort of people". (While these tenancies might be good or bad given the situation, they are certainly pronounced). 1) They probably have the gift of teaching or possibly prophesy (speaking God's message to people), and other spiritual leadership gifts. I'm not aware of anyone with mercy gifts, the gift of giving or hospitality that's teaching on these topics. 2) They have STRONG and closely held beliefs, many have years of serious Bible study as a basis of their beliefs. 3) They have what I've heard referred to as a "High D" or a "Type A" personality - people used to leading to having great responsibility, decisive, I would add that mostly they are very committed to understanding and teaching the bible with accuracy. To someone with these personality and spiritual gifts, it's CRITICAL to them to "get it right" and that the Gospel message be proclaimed with passion and with confidence. After All... The creator of the universe has given them a message to proclaim and they want to do their best. I can see where their presentation would have a very stern, possibly forceful, serious, and commanding tone.... maybe even seen as angry. I'm sure they're nice people one-on-one, but I think they see this as a serious responsibility that God has given them and this is how they communicate. We are in a spiritual Battle and they're behaving like generals in combat!

[@randycurtis1176]

kryzaly MacArthur does seem often angry. I suspect that the Bethlehem Baptist comment comes from two points. One, an over reaction to the manipulated alter call. The second thing is, perhaps, because by the time someone is asking if they are elect they ha e the knowledge. But what about those that don't. It makes sense to have biblical counseling available to at explore the topic. I grew up with shout in' angry preachers. I learned to shake off the man guilt by the time I sat down to lunch. I can't shake off grace. Guilt creates a glare. Grace shines a warm light that both comforts and afflicts.

[@thunkful343]

If U want to affirm or deny Calvinism, take ur Bible & mark all the passages on the TULIP (positive or neg), might use 5 colors. Read what exegetes say on the passages. U might mark all passages on salvation.

[@jwtrain]

Thank you for introducing me to Wayne Grudem’s book!

[@nicolasburns5387]

John, John MacArthur just came out with a systematic theology called "Biblical Doctrine" - it is also an excellent resource. I have both Systematic Theologiess and I like them for very different reasons. MacArthur's is a bit more pastoral in it's tone, and the scripture reference list in the back is worth its weight in gold (50 pages), so I tend to favor that over Grudem (though it is by no means an inferior work).

[@StEvUgnIn]

Nicolas Burns Yes

[@surenshrestha6405]

Enthusiasm for Sound Doctrine, Local Church Centrality, Biblical Ecumenism, International Impact, Deploying New Technologies, Grounding in Church History!!!

[@alanhales239]

Tim Challies. The new calvinism, just like calvinism and the reformed church, need the grace of God, because they teach erroneous beliefs. So if it wasn't for God's grace, they would be dead now, or at least, in serious trust. You cannot twist the scriptures the way Calvinist's do, and expect God's blessings.

[@gmag3253]

Mark 13:27 27And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens. Matthew 24:31 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Ephesian 1 Colossians 3:12-14 2Thess. 2:13-15 Romans 8:29-30 2Timothy 2:10 John 6:37-40

[@blueicequeen19]

I have been so blessed by the New Calvinism movement and organizations like TGC, Desiring God and faithful Godly men like Piper, Sproul, and DeYoung. Wayne Grudem's book is on my list!!

[@93556108]

Sarah N seems to be a devout Calvinism. If calvinism were correct and God hand picks who is and is not saved, then Christianity is reduced to being an extension of Judaism. The Jews believed then and still do that they are the “chosen ones of God” because they are born physically into the Jewish family. God most certainly is the One responsible for a person being born a Jew. That is an undeniable fact. If calvinism is correct, then a Christian is born again because God chooses to save him, which is no different than God choosing to make someone a Jew.

[@SpotterVideo]

Read the recent book "The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism" by Dr. Ken Wilson, to see why Augustine attempted to explain how infants could become the "elect" through water baptism. Since the child had not come to faith, it must be based on the will of another. It could have nothing to do with the will of the child.

[@SpotterVideo]

Did the Early Church Fathers teach "Calvinism"? kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4W2dptnpJ17mqc

[@SpotterVideo]

@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC Yes. The man is only an orthopedic surgeon, also with a Theology degree from Oxford. He read all of Augustine's works, in the original languages. What could he know?

[@gailgunderson5163]

I really need to know why Calvinists always end up getting angry at me when I try to engage or ask questions. All they do is throw scriptures at me. I've been a Christian for 40 years. I don't have to throw scriptures back at them when I'm challenging their doctrine . The Holy Spirit lives in me guides my words as I interact with them. Please tell me why Calvinists get angry, throw scriptures at me, and don't answer my questions. They think that they're sound doctrinally just because of the scriptures they share. A guy last night accused me of being in a cult. Not a non-Calvinist, but a cult!! What's up with these people? They're all the same. They remind me of Jehovah's witnesses and Mormons that come to my door and vomit scriptures on me. Please tell me!

[@godslittleman5451]

Gail Gunderson if some get angry don’t read a pattern into it for everybody. There’s a very powerful spiritual renewal that happens when people flip from self saving doctrines of men to God saving doctrines of God. I I would be quite surprised if anybody from a reformed church knocked on my door. All we get here is Jesus only Apostolics and JWs.

[@shane38002]

I'm a reformed Baptist and look at my brothers and sisters that are not reformed in the same light as people in my church. You are either in Adam or in Christ.. period. Try loving " those people" for the same Holy Spirit probably dwells in each of you 🙂

[@marcusanthony488]

Calvinists are deceptive

[@mkshffr4936]

I have found just the opposite and I have been on both sides. There is no question that the cage stage is real but most of the "doctrines of Satan" comments I have heard have been coming from Arminians. I suppose we will have this kind of thing to some degree until the Lord returns sadly.

[@Mushbeary]

@MK Duke this is completely false, calvinists can know if they are saved. This sounds like jehovah witnesses theology to me

[@toknowhim3987]

Great content Brother Tim! Just FYI: Hawaii is missing on the wall behind you! Lol

[@jimgilligan9236]

Hawaii isn’t the elect, sorry

[@gailgunderson5163]

And who invented the doctrines of grace? There's a few specific scriptures on grace. But to build a whole doctrine around grace is ungodly , dangerous and heretical!

[@JimiSurvivor]

@Gail Gunderson These teachings were passed to the Reformers through the writings of Augustine of Hippo who, in turn, got them from Manichaeism a Gnostic cult to which he had belonged before his conversion to Christianity. Manichaeism held that man was so ruined that he is unable to make any free choices but must be predetermined to do so by one of two cosmic forces. Calvin Quoted Augustine extensively and Luther had been an Augustinian monk so Augustine's influence over them was profound. All the Church leaders, theologians, and writers before Augustine believed in free will and foreknowledge rather than determinism. This is why Calvin rejected the 300 years of post-Apostolic teaching.

[@Deep-Travel]

Would love to hear an update to this video to see the status of the YRR.

[@Mulerider4Life]

Very well explained.

[@jimgilligan9236]

Scientology, Jehovah Witness, Mormons and now New Calvinism, thankyou USA, so grateful for your cults

[@ksmung6268]

Well said👍

[@nikao7751]

just like the catholic church couldn't be reformed neither can the false and dangerous teaching of calvinism be reformed. quit kidding yourselves and others

[@jayatipurkayastha3797]

Brother, are you a Calvinist?

[@weldapurba6044]

I just realize the map behind you missing part of Indonesia my country. hehe

[@jimgilligan9236]

Welda Purba it wasn’t chosen

[@PInk77W1]

“His people” you say. That is singular, but u mention so many people? Who is in charge? Who is the pastor? God always works thru one man. Always. God never changes

[@Mkvine]

The “new” Calvinism?

[@xyzsandyxyz]

If it is believed as Calvin believed that sinners go to hell for eternity and God preordained who would go to hell before the foundations of the world, this would make God a sadist, which God is not. Calvin himself, had people murdered, including anabaptist for not believing what he believed. And the is Grace?

[@m1tanker64]

Sandy Perlman - That is a misrepresentation of Divine election. The basis of election is God’s grace and mercy. It is not a beauty contest. All deserve hell. Some are saved from hell by God’s mercy. Evangelism becomes us carrying the voice of the Great Shepherd per John 10:27-30. God bless!

[@russellthompson3201]

Brother, most of the points you gave also applies to Mormonism -- local church emphasis, world outreach. (No, I do reject Mormonism). I don't see "God" in your list. I was involved in the Jesus Movement in the 70's and we could say the same about that movement.

[@ThiccChimichanga]

Excellent video Tim! I always look forward to your latest videos, keep up the good work!

[@93556108]

If calvinism were correct and God hand picks who is and is not saved, then Christianity is reduced to being an extension of Judaism. The Jews believed then and still do that they are the “chosen ones of God” because they are born physically into the Jewish family. God most certainly is the One responsible for a person being born a Jew. That is an undeniable fact. If calvinism is correct, then a Christian is born again because God chooses to save him, which is no different than God choosing to make someone a Jew.

[@joescoggins5937]

Calvinism needs a heavy dose of 1 Corinthians 1 & 3. We do not follow the teachings of man. We follow only Christ. To name a "Christian" movement after a man is pure, unadulterated heresy. Contextually, Calvinism cannot be true. It's the "I have 52 verses supporting me, you only have 51 supporting you, therefore I'm right." philosophy. What a sorry way to use Scripture.

[@Michael_Chandler_Keaton]

Joe Scoggins Reformed theology is biblical truth. Calvinism is simply an identifier, like any church creed or statement of faith it identifies one's theological leaning. Every body subscribes to creeds and confessions because they are helpful. Helpful to find a like minded church, pastor, books and literature etc. And we all subscribe to creeds and confessions. If we say "I have no creed, just the bible." Well, that's a creed. If we say "I believe the bible is the only authority and source of truth." Well, that's a confession. Many different and diverse groups claim, "we only follow what the bible says." Yet they are all different and many are outright heretical.

[@oracleoftroy]

Joe, please don't use 1 Corinthians to sow disunity the Church, that is expressly written against in chapter 1. Is Christ divided?

[@siggikrauss]

Sounds mostly like the vision of brethren movement in the 1830s. ✌

[@frankward7855]

Funny That! See how history repeats itself. I guess Solomon did have it right when he said that there was nothing new under the sun.

[@FBDerringer]

Tim, you left out number 7. THEY ARE WRONG!

[@icilahmb]

Wrong... justifying Calvinism just proves you are your worst enemy.. New Calvinism is not found in scripture.. Wisdom of man! Not the wisdom of God..

[@oscarbahamonde7519]

Very sorry to see the poor analysis, simplificatios, simplistic thought and even seems malicious way of representing others in order to present his own prejudice as fact!

[@headgamesbeauty8605]

Would be great to learn more talk people of color who are also serving in the new reformed movement. I would appreciate learning about other groups of people who share in this movement. Thanks

[@annebritraaen939]

I don't think I want to be a Calvinist - I just want the preacher to be one.

[@jamessooknanan1040]

Calvinist is a blasphemy, is accusing God of creating sin, 1 baby is not born in sin ,sin begin in your youth God said ,Gen 8:21 ,Job 13: 26 ,Palsm 25:7 . 2 calvinist teaching (irresistible grace) is not in the bible .3man free will cannot choose Christ,salvation begin when you hear the good news of the gospel and (believe) and repent (change of mind and behavior in your life) on your own 3 (total depravity is not in the bible,) man can repent by hearing the truth 4 predestination is only a plan like building a house need a plan, Plummer, carpenter, Mason, electrician, roofer,drywall ,need aPLAN FOR ALL ,THE PLAN BEGIN AT THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST TO GOD PRAISE AND GLORY

[@terrencemedders1867]

This is a bad defense of Calvinism. Just selling points without any explanation of the theology and doctrine itself.

[@The1234vagabond]

In every movement of God insincere trend driven people will be part of it. This fact doesn't mean anything other than what's always been true about humans. This movements inspiration comes from and is sustained by God.

[@shionshakamu]

Heresy

[@orionfox6]

Beg your pardon, did you actually said “sound doctrine”? John Calvin was a man, a presumptuous man, thereby Calvinists follow a man (and others who also followed that man) who presumed to hold an authoritative understanding and interpretation of scripture. What kind of calling is that?

[@Chris-here]

You do know that all religions and isms say and think the exact same thing you are saying.

[@frankward7855]

Chris, I'm interested in your thoughts on all religions and isms being the same. I was talking with a guy last week and we came up with about four distinct messages so I would say that all religions say one of the four. I'm no scholar so maybe there are a few more basic messages but I'm interested in your thoughts.

[@anthonybennett5335]

The New Calvinists are wolves in sheep's clothing. Look e.g. at Timothy Keller's failure to defend Biblical Christianity when interviewed by Martin Bashir. Look how the New Calvinists are becoming ever warmer to the Papacy. Look at how the New Calvinists love worldly music like hip-hop. When do these men ever emphasise the awfulness of sin, the need for wholehearted repentance, the need for sanctified, holy living? They don't

[@m1tanker64]

Anthony Bennett - you are confusing New Calvinism with the New Apostolic Reformation:

[@thunkful343]

I was expecting a discussion of Calvinism, not an interpretation of modern ecclesiastical history.

[@marcusanthony488]

Calvinists are quite deceptive

[@THERAPTURECOMES]

So why call it Calvinism of any stripe? Calvinism is outright satanic through T U L I P. Do you still teach T U L I P

[@anthonybearden9023]

THERAPTURECOMES Which part of tulip is wrong? Total depravity? Unconditional Election? Limited atonement? Irresistible Grace? Perseverance of the saints? Do you even read your Bible bro?

[@beukesjt195]

THERAPTURECOMES :You gospel is based on your own free will. If the whole world reject Jesus because of free will then He died for nobody. SO THOSE who accept Him do it out of there own. They have all the reason to boast. This is the gospel of almighty Man. God is not in it.

[@frankward7855]

Which part of tulip is wrong? I don't know everything so don't hear me in a boastful way, but... Total depravity - We're all dead in our sin, a slave to sin, separated from God, with no hope of doing anything to recover, The Bible says that no one seeks God. (Romans 3:10 -12 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one). Did I miss anything? Unconditional Election - The Bible talks about God choosing to save his people (The Elect) before the foundation of the world. In the Garden of Gethsemane Jesus refers to The Elect - ones that God chose and gave to him (John 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine). Is there a problem here? Limited atonement - Jesus' death provided payment for the sin of the ones that received him - the ones that were born of God (John 1:11-13 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God). Jesus' atonement doesn't provide payment for those that didn't receive him and become children of God, right? Irresistible Grace - when God swam down to the bottom of the lake, saw me laying on the bottom blue and cold and dead, pulled me up, dragged me into the boar, resuscitated me, and brought me back to life... So what person could resist the love, mercy, and grace that Jesus demonstrated when he chose to save them (1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us). Perseverance of the saints - God adopts us into his family, he declares us (legally) righteous like when you're pardoned by the president for a crime(s). There are other passages that talk about the fact that no one can snatch us out of God's hand once we're his children. Please don't think I'm a know-it-all. I do see pretty clearly in the Bible where God showed me EXTREME Grace and mercy. So what is wrong with TULIP? (Using KJV since that's an accepted standard)

[@Cuinn837]

Limited atonement really means that Jesus only died for a small minority of people, who didn't have a choice whether to receive him or not , anyway. the rest are doomed without even a chance to reject him, because God controlled their minds and forced them to reject. What kind of a God does this?

[@jaymorris9952]

Yet one of the most well known bible verses proves much of Calvinism wrong. John 3:16: For God so loved the WORLD, that he gave his only begotten son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

[@veilmendersus4134]

Not once in this video, Jesus of the Bible was ever mentioned, glorified, exemplified, passioned or pursued after. The primary role of the Holy Spirit is to glorify and testify of Jesus. See John 15 & 16. Given the foregoing facts, Calvinism is a deadly virus that rejects Jesus Christ and Him crucified. See 1 Corinthians 2:2.

[@longfamily7134]

Veil Menders Я Us uuhhhh, this isn’t a sermon. It’s a church commentary.

[@jeffreyagyepong8976]

+Tyler Long exactly