Changing Ford Solenoid Body Strategy and ID with Forscan

[@CalicoRiot]

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[@CarShopTalk]

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[@CarShopTalk]

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[@CarShopTalk]

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[@CarShopTalk]

Thanks! I’ll see what I can do

[@hosalabad]

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[@CarShopTalk]

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[@CarShopTalk]

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[@CarShopTalk]

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[@100pyatt]

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[@CarShopTalk]

Glad it helped!

[@pedrosanchez8230]

Hi. What can I do if the previous owner replaced the valve body but didn’t update the strategy number nor body id and doesn’t have that info?

[@kmtischer]

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[@CarShopTalk]

I had to go find it and watch it, thanks!

[@chillijackson]

Thanks for the video!! It already may be in the comments somewhere. If so, sorry. So I’m swapping a transmission that went bad in a 14 Escape, with a low mileage one, from the salvage yard. I’m guessing this is what I need to do after I have the transmission installed before I test drive? And I just follow your video and the steps. I should be good to go? Thanks in advance.

[@peters1821]

Hi! Trying to do this on a 14 Escape. I was able to modify the ID but when i try to do the strategy Forscan says it cannot connect to download the file. I do have internet on the laptop.

[@kylecasarow1031]

Thank you so much for this!

[@CarShopTalk]

You’re welcome!

[@Rider-nb5ts]

Damn! Where can I get the cable from? Walmart? Auto zone?

[@scottjackman6682]

Thank you much appreciated

[@CarShopTalk]

You’re welcome!

[@mashdatrashvideos2831]

great job on this video

[@CarShopTalk]

Thanks!

[@andrewybarra2304]

Do you know if you can do a crank relearn on forscan?

[@robertobenitez9503]

Is there a specific procedure when relearning the values? Put it in drive, let go of the brake, slowly accelerate up to 10th gear, come to a stop, Re do 7 times?

[@CarShopTalk]

That’s pretty much it. Decel is suppose to be done slowly as well to help it learn the timing for downshifts as well

[@repairfreak]

I have a 2010 Ford F150 with the 6R80 6-Speed Transmission. The licensed latest version of Forscan does not list a PCM module. Therefore there is no “Update Transmission Characterization” listed. Forscan told me this is not a feature available for my model/year vehicle. They also told me Ford IDS also does not contain this programming capability for my particular vehicle/year. So how is one supposed to enter the new solenoid strategy code and valve body id ? Apparently in my early 2010 my transmission uses a TCM that is moulded into the plastic lead frame that attaches to the valve body. I was told that the newer models do not have a TCM in the Lead Frame anymore and that a PCM Module is now used. I guess this explains why no PCM Module is found when Forscan connects. What a bummer, how is someone supposed to get this data entered? Is it only something a Ford service center can do with another type of software besides Ford IDS or Forscan? Sure was hoping to do this myself.😩

[@user-df4jl5jl6k]

Is there not a TCM transmission characterization update option? I’m assuming you’d just need that since the tcm is on the lead frame and not controlled by the pcm

[@loballin007]

Hi, thank you so much for your video first of all. I’m currently trying to do this for my 10R80 as I just replaced the Valve body. After I input the new strategy number from the valve body it’s asks me what work has been done, I pick “Main Control Replacement Only” then it would give me “TRID data don’t match” looks like this step does not come up on your video.

[@loballin007]

Also mind you the reman valve body I repalced it with did not come with the ID card with the strategy numbers. So I'm taking the numbers that is stamped on the valve body itself.

[@CarShopTalk]

@@loballin007 where did the valve body come from? I had an aftermarket transmission once that the solenoid strategy they gave for it wasn’t valid.

[@loballin007]

@@CarShopTalk The valve body came from Ebay. And it didn't come with the strategy ID tag. So i was basically taking the 13 digit strategy number directly from the valve body itself. Also this valve body is a remanufactured valve body.

[@anthonyrizzo255]

Just out of curiosity could I re renter the old ID if not changing the valve body? I’ve got some wacky shift issues that kinda go away when resetting the tables. Will putting in the same ID strategy possibly help on top of resetting the tables.

[@CarShopTalk]

Entering the same values shouldn’t change anything. They’re just solenoid flow rates.

[@technewsl8190]

Hello, thanks for the information what if the sticker that has the Body ID and strategy number is damaged, torn. i mean if i don't have this information, is there somehow a way to retrieve that information, or is there a function to automatically detect this information ?

[@CarShopTalk]

Some of the valve bodies have a tag on them that it can be recovered from.

[@daynenmoore]

Mine pops up with a file not found then when I click to download the file it doesn’t work. I was able to get the body ID number in but wouldn’t let the strategy number enter

[@Dirtyharry70585]

Good job

[@CarShopTalk]

Thanks!

[@statman4ever]

Thanks!!!

[@CarShopTalk]

Glad it helped!

[@segounlocks5029]

Instead of using the ford software to learn tcm after trans replacement can I just do this.

[@CarShopTalk]

Yes

[@KeithGriffinGMS]

Do you have recommendations on where to buy a valve body for a 2017 F250 6.7 powerstroke?

[@CarShopTalk]

I would probably order one from Ford.

[@CrazynorthSide78]

Hey bro. Nice simple vid. Under service procedure, I don't have "PCM clear transmission adaptive tables. Also I've purchased a 1 yr of Forscan. But the issue is, under license I don't see PCM trans character update, only TCM char update. But when i delete my license I have both, PCM & TCM transmission characterization. I'm using it on a rebuilt 6R80 auto transmission in a 2012 ranger. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[@CarShopTalk]

That is strange. I can’t say I’ve ran into that. I’d probably try contacting the people with Forscan.

[@user-df4jl5jl6k]

Did you sort this out? I also had both PCM and TCM transmission characterisation options in programming. I updated the TCM characterisation strategy first only to have a PCM P163E and TCM P0700 programming error come up and the PCM option wasn’t there anymore

[@RogerGancs]

Will this same procedure work on a 2019 with a 6R140? Not sure if forscan does different things for different years

[@CarShopTalk]

Yes, it will.

[@damianweber6162]

Awesome video, which forescan did you use and what was the other product did you use

[@CarShopTalk]

It has to be the windows version of Forscan. I used a Ford VCM with it, but that’s because I all ready have it. Forscan has a bunch of adapter that are compatible listed on their web site.

[@galagatron5319]

Thank you for the video. My 6f35 went out. I will be doing this myself, can't afford mechanic. I'm getting a reman. Can you please tell me besides a laptop, what do I need to buy to do what you did on this video. I'm clueless. I have a 2017 ford escape se 1.5 two wheel drive. Do I need some kind of cord to connect to the car and do I need to buy the software? Thank you

[@CarShopTalk]

@@galagatron5319 You’ll need to download the windows version of Forscan from Forscan.org and get an OBDLink EX cable from Amazon. You’ll need to get a 60 day free license for Forscan or buy a license and you should be good.

[@galagatron5319]

@@CarShopTalk thank you for that reply! Thanks for helping people too.

[@loballin007]

Hi, thank you so much for your video first of all. I’m currently trying to do this for my 10R80 as I just replaced the Valve body. After I input the new strategy number from the valve body it’s asks me what work has been done, I pick “Main Control Replacement Only” then it would give me “TRID data don’t match” looks like this step does not come up on your video.

[@BigHRepair]

Couldnt you swap the selenoids over to the new valve body to avoid this relearn? Reason I'm asking is a discovered my valve body had damage (the plate). Figure that would work right?

[@CarShopTalk]

Yes. If you swapped all the solenoids into the same position then the strategy would remain the same. I would still probably clear the adaptive strategy and perform a drive cycle relearn since you’re replacing at least part of the valve body.

[@BigHRepair]

@@CarShopTalk gotcha. Appreciate it. Not super familiar with these, I mostly stick with GM and Chrysler. Thanks

[@AllTerrainAction]

If its using the FORD servers to download the file based on the statergy numbers entered, doesnt that need sometype of subscription or is that stuff accessible without a subscription to fords database?

[@CarShopTalk]

It’s available without a subscription. You do need the paid version of Forscan or the 3 month trial version.

[@airratchetjockey7605]

​@@CarShopTalk where do you download the strategy numbers from without paying Ford?

[@sharafaldinadamabdllaallgsapi]

I have a 2006 Ford Explorer, American import. When the engine temperature rises, the compressor disconnects and does not start again. I changed the computer, but it does not help.

[@CarShopTalk]

Are the cooling fans running?

[@brayanreyes5993]

So if I replaced my whole Tranmission with a junk yard one will I just have to do this or it’s a different process ?

[@CarShopTalk]

Same process.

[@brayanreyes5993]

@@CarShopTalk thanks for the fast reply boss 👍

[@markwipf6649]

Can you please reply back to this comment:) thankyou I’m wondering how I download the calibration files?

[@CarShopTalk]

@@markwipf6649 Forscan should automatically download the correct calibration file over the internet for the solenoid body id or strategy you enter.

[@markwipf6649]

Thankyou very much!! I got it going and reprogrammed the solenoid . I just took it for a drive and the tranny operates way smoother but not perfect. My drive mode isn’t working though have u had this issue?

[@LMBC6Brian]

Trying to do this on a 22 Mustang GT and that option is not available for my car in forscan.

[@CarShopTalk]

10R80? That surprises me it’s not in the menus yet, but I can’t say I’ve tried it on a 22 Mustang yet.

[@CarShopTalk]

What version of Forscan are you using? It needs to be the windows version 2.3.59, released 3/3/2024. It says they added it for 2021-23 Mustang. If your on an older version try downloading the newest version.

[@ArmandoArdon]

I bought an used transmission for my Ford Escape 2014, but where can I find the number? It has a sticker but it has about 21 numbers in the sticker. Can somebody help me please?

[@CarShopTalk]

They should be on a sticker on it.

[@segounlocks5029]

Sticker gone must take it off drain the fluid numbers will be printed on the part

[@LarryAta-zn1vd]

hello are you a mechanic in Los Angeles area, that can work on my trasmition for a for fusion 2013 hybrid?

[@CarShopTalk]

Sorry, I’m in the Midwest.

[@LarryAta-zn1vd]

@@CarShopTalk Thank you

[@fredrosario2947]

do i need a ford account for it to download file from the ford server using for scan ? any help would be great im replacing my VB on my 2013 f150 because bad lead frame and just found out i need to program the VB to my PCM

[@CarShopTalk]

No, you don’t need a Ford loggin to download transmission strategy files. It should download for anyone. And yes, you’ll have to change it for a valve body replacement. I think it does need to be the paid windows version of forscan, but I think they still offer a free 2 month trial.

[@fredrosario2947]

@@CarShopTalk Your Right I bought the paid version and it worked perfect i just programed in thank you ..

[@CarShopTalk]

@@fredrosario2947 Glad it worked, you’re welcome.

[@MrpvpYT]

@@CarShopTalkso out of curiosity if I’m already running a tune and then install a new remanufactured transmission and have the tuner input the changes in the tune would I still have to route it through forscan

[@CarShopTalk]

@@MrpvpYT The tune and the transmission strategy are stored in two different locations / they’re different things. I would still put the correct solenoid body idea and strategy in it. Shift strategy changes in the tune would remain unchanged, but it needs the correct flow numbers to work from.

[@abis7709]

Pregunta si el stiker de id esta borrado donde encuentro la estrategia y el id

[@CarShopTalk]

Some transmissions the put a tag on the valve body also, but you’re have to pull the pan to get it. What are you working on? What year, model and transmission?

[@abis7709]

@@CarShopTalk es una 6r80 Ford 150 2015 la caja de válvulas se ve usada ya quite el Carter de transmicion y veo el número de 13 dígitos de la estrategia pero no veo el ID de selenoide todo esto lo hago porque perdieron la pcm y se instaló otra con su calibración pero hace falta programar el ID y la estrategia ya que no son las mismas