CHANGING SUSPENSION OIL PART 1

This is Tech Lesson 8 | Changing Suspension Oil Part 1. A new Tech Lesson will be uploaded every Wednesday. Thanks for watching and I hope these are helping!
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[@delta90903]

7 years later and still liking comments. what a guy, what a guy. love you cameron niemela!

[@CameronNiemela]

Thanks for watching!

[@brams77]

brilliant video buddy, used to send mine off to get a oil change, not any more, great tips. thanks.

[@klappy803]

Great video, much much more useful than the sponsored videos. No one else seemed to show the correct damper oil filling technique as you did.

[@paulgrant9058]

Great video. Well done. All the right amount of detail. Straight to the point. Thanks!

[@logannicholson5778]

who is watching in 2019

[@crffilmz7300]

Me

[@scoremxcom]

me - what weight fork oil do you use?

[@spraibens6177]

me

[@mikehickman3635]

Yup

[@lutherchastain9880]

im watching in 2020

[@r0ckworthy]

I just love all these videos you do, they're so easy to follow and so well done. You do videos on all the main maintenance stuff, I love it!

[@cane2253]

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[@macunion1225]

this guy is really good , loves these easy to understand vids

[@CameronNiemela]

Thanks for watching, glad it was useful.

[@CameronNiemela]

Very good point you brought up. I guess there is a slight chance of damaging the threads in the upper tube when it's tightened down in the clamp. Thanks!

[@Dylan_Miller]

Awesome video. Great camera angles and clear instructions. Thank you!

[@CameronNiemela]

Glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching!

[@CameronNiemela]

Yes, you could leave the cartridge in the fork if you are changing just the oil. But most of the time seals or springs are changed when an oil change is done. I was just following the service manual and that's the process it showed. Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't really think about that when I was working on the forks.

[@JaxsonM22]

It’s cool to see how much your videos have improved! I still found this video useful though

[@anthonyhigham5429]

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[@IHateGoogle6969]

Love these videos mate. Clear, concise, covers everything and good video footage too. Keep up the good work!

[@CameronNiemela]

Huge thanks man! Much more on the way

[@adamklimes7549]

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[@Charlies644]

Love this Video style!

[@willpreussner6480]

thanks i am re-building my 04 crf250r now and your vids are great

[@MKPB75]

Did the forks on my 2011 Honda CRF 250, and it turned out great, I did not know how to do it before! Now i do, because of this video!! Great stuff!! :) Iam now a subscriber to your channel..

[@mot611]

Great vid! Thanks for helping me out.

[@CameronNiemela]

I appreciate the kind comments, thanks for watching!

[@CameronNiemela]

Thanks!

[@CameronNiemela]

Thanks for watching! Glad the videos helped.

[@CameronNiemela]

The stock size bore on a 10-13 CRF250 is 76.80mm, and then some OEM places sell two or three O/S pistons in increasing sizes. If your bike has not been rebuilt, you will need the STD size piston. You could always measure the cylinder too.

[@findvoltage]

Excellent, as usual, Cam.

[@CameronNiemela]

Thank you, much appreciated.

[@candiceperry3045]

Thanks for the video

[@evana1900]

Would love to see an updated video on this

[@CameronNiemela]

Thanks

[@mr.rm250rodneylynn8]

Good job bro! 👍 braaaaaaap!

[@125ufo]

RESPECT FROM ITALY !

[@dirtbikedave]

HAHAAHAAA Awesome, Cam! First time I've seen one this old. You've come a long way, baby! Jeez, I just noticed I never subscribed (from this account). Done!

[@brandynwilloughby2147]

Great thanks just hit 20 hrs. On my 2014 RMZ250 and was told I need to change the fork oil. found your video and looks like I can do it. I'm a rookie but have mechanical abilities. Thanks for the help.

[@CameronNiemela]

Thanks for watching! The process for changing the oil in your forks should be different as they are Showa SFF forks while the ones shown in the video are Showa conventional forks. Some of the things will be the same, but refer to a service manual for the exact procedure.

[@InverseHierarchy]

good videos these - thank you

[@sensiblynumb]

ah, its the aftermarket sizes that were confusing me. Not sure if it has been rebuilt. Ill have to measure then. Cheers mate appreciate your advice

[@CameronNiemela]

Yea, the aftermarket sizes are just for oversize in the case you need to bore your cylinder out to remove scratches or other damage.

[@CameronNiemela]

Tighten and torque the triple clamp pinch bolts first, then the stem nut, and after that the axle. Then follow the procedure for aligning the fork tubes shown in the video. There really is no correct order to tighten the triple clamp bolts and heat nut, as you tighten things will align on their own unless of course something is twisted.

[@TheDirtbikeRider]

How check oil level height ? i have crf 250 05

[@lombardozarateiii6920]

Damn bro u look super young here

[@CameronNiemela]

Thanks! I know there usually isn't much oil left, but I guess it could make a slight difference.

[@dirtbikedave]

Is the process the same for a 97 kawi 125 Kayaba fork?

[@Codarl2]

Boy, am I glad my (conventional) Showa forks just come with a 4mm drain bolt. Seeing all the trouble you go trough makes me happy there are people who will do it for money.

[@MaikVx]

hey, How many ml will the internal and external reservoir showa suspension from 2011?

[@Blue_collar_fitness]

is their any special tools required are they inexpensive and easy to find. thanks

[@sensiblynumb]

Hey with forks you need to consider how much oil is left in after you have drained. I know the Honda manual has a diagram showing the approx amount of oil left in the fork based on how long you have drained it. Something to take into consideration. Hey thanks for making some great vids mate. Cheers

[@CameronNiemela]

You will not need to align your forks since there are no pinch bolts. They will align when you tighten the axle.

[@donaldsteiner6783]

You seem like a pretty smart young guy! Thanks for the lesson its certainly appreciated!!

[@CameronNiemela]

Thank You! I appreciate your viewership and kind words.

[@donaldsteiner6783]

Hey what weight fork fluid and brand do recommend?

[@CameronNiemela]

The weight of the fluid greatly depends on bike, rider weight, and whether you're riding track or trail. But I've always had great success using Maxima oils. Can't remember the weight I used.

[@colemcmeans7809]

and now I know thanks man

[@CameronNiemela]

I believe the chambers are separate and there isn't a way for oil to go from one chamber to the other. That's why you need to add oil to the chambers separately when changing the oil.

[@w902l2]

Great vid - thanks for making it! Think I'll do it myself now instead of paying someone else.

[@CameronNiemela]

Thanks for watching!

[@mark-1234]

Nice vid. One correction, though. The fork caps don't need to be tightened that tight. I think 6 ft lbs is all they call for.

[@83homerito]

Hello I am from Argentina, I would like to know the amount of oil in cm3 having the cartridge and the amount in the rod. thank you!

[@rhinusbreedt9772]

great video man. i have a 2011 crf 250. wouldnt trade it for any bike. every 30 hours sounds a bit crazy though. sent it in at about 80 hours to service. am at 4 years later with 170 hours on. decided ill do it myself during our 21 day lock down. better than spending 5.5K south african rand on someone else doing it..+- 400 Dollars

[@sensiblynumb]

Yeah can make a difference, up to 20cc... Drain overnight if you have time. Hey I have a question off topic. Do you know how to determine what stock piston size you need? I have a 2010 CRF250r and there are 3 stock sizes. I know with Yams it is marked on the barrel. Any ideas?

[@mikemorgan1005]

Great tutorial thanks! Please confirm front axle torque spec, sounds like u said 65ft lbs which seems too much

[@jannik7715]

Can you also change the oil through the air bleeding screw?

[@CameronNiemela]

That would be the owners manual. You'll need to get a service manual that shows the oil levels and types of oil you need for your specific bike.

[@showlikebarbefore]

whats a good fork cap wrench for a drz sm?

[@Honoer]

Do one on how to change your airboot

[@oleksandrfiltyuk7991]

ktm 450sx 2004 how much oil into the front shock absorbers

[@TheKing-ky6eq]

So what if I don't know the amount of clicks my compression and rebound is set at the moment. How can I figure that out ?

[@CameronNiemela]

I'm not sure on that, you will have to refer to a service manual.

[@logannaramore54]

How do you take off the dust seal???

[@damnan77]

Great video! i think its a good instructional video. idk what Clay Himes is saying.

[@CameronNiemela]

Thank You! Glad you found it helpful.

[@igortbp]

Hello friend, needs to actually use gás? I can not use compressed air?

[@TBUBZ_GAMING]

Crazy comparing thes video to your new ones in 2021

[@Purepkingdude]

How do I know which oil I need for ATM 06 front suspension ?

[@chandlerrogers1897]

really nice video. trying to do my fork oil, looks like you have a honda crf450r but what year?

[@CameronNiemela]

Chandler Rogers Thanks! My CRF250 was a 2011.

[@staticxmako]

it looks like there is a tiny bit of oil in the damper assembely. could i get away with just removing fork cap and doing it as if it was a single chamber fork? and eventually the oil will equal out and start to clean out the inside?

[@tygervoods8358]

do i have to worry about anything if i go on a vacation?

[@TrevorKlibinski]

How to i align my forks and everything if i dont have pinch bolts. I have a 150r

[@sazidhasan8015]

ktm duke 390 how can i will change the front suspension oil

[@kevinstearns4198]

i have an 87 kx 250 i have good luck with clark jones at noleen suspension. the others dont know shit. clark is awesome!!!!!!!!!!

[@viktorvarkonyi7510]

Can anybody tell me, how many oil need in the damping and in the leg? Thanks a lot! :)

[@tommybiggers8496]

master machanic.

[@ReqctiveMinecraft]

My guy Cameron looking really young here 😳

[@Elmedin.xhemaili]

what oil is it 5/30 ?

[@lidissoncaldeira57]

What oil and quantity added in the video 4:19 6:18?

[@J3elloo]

first of all. srry about my english but, the bolt you let go air on the top. if you push that to hard att the suspension looses grip inside. do i have to buy new suspensions?

[@CameronNiemela]

So you mean the threads are stripped out? You will need to install a heli-coil to fix the threads so the bolt holds. Do a google search on "heli-coil"

[@J3elloo]

thanks

[@johnedwardmcgladdery5071]

What's the point of relaxing the oil if you're not going to strip and clean it?

[@staticxmako]

although im not nearly as good as a mech as you are. id recomend to everyone when tightening your fork cap/cartriage caps. just tighten the bottom tripple clamp bolts to spec. then tighten caps. and then proceed to tighten fork cap/cartraige cap. that way there is no chance of you damaging threads on the fork cap

[@XxHackerxX014]

My forks are really stiff even do its to the softest setting what do i do?

[@1254zeppelin]

Arce_4 less oil. Also different springs but that’s expensive.

[@Purepkingdude]

You mean from the book that they gave me ?

[@ScootalooGT]

i wonder how much a shop usually charges for something like this. im kinda thinking that i dont really want to do all of that. lol

[@nickj6275]

I'm thinking the same thing😂

[@rodneyburke2202]

Shop wanted to charge me 500 to change the fork seals

[@MJ-km2ju]

There's two different places to add fork oil?

[@CameronNiemela]

Yes, there are two chambers you need to add oil to.

[@thomascottis9476]

So do you have to do all of this just to change the oil?

[@CameronNiemela]

Thomas Cottis Yes

[@lavamxteam]

Seems like a bitch huh?

[@hampuspettersson5388]

but often when you change the oil you replace the seals to

[@lombardozarateiii6920]

Hampus Pettersson or u can buy the seal mate to clean ur seals u probably dnt have to change them.

[@kaiotorremocha3151]

Oil ml ?

[@Purepkingdude]

My service manual doesnt say what oil...

[@joelcr250]

7:46 your holding your torque wrench incorrectly

[@jessierodriguez8524]

Oil comes out of the front forth like near the wheel. Any one know y thx for ur time

[@jessierodriguez8524]

Fork

[@Ayah4304]

In this video, you look very young cam.

[@BillyIdol813]

Are the 2011 crf250r forks identical to the 2010 Crf450r forks?

[@CameronNiemela]

The 250 forks are Showa while the 450 forks are KYB brand. Internals will be different.

[@ak47man2002]

Do u have 2 change suspension oil on all bikes?

[@kevinstearns4198]

+alec thayer yes

[@andrelol6103]

This should be done every 30 hours?

[@CameronNiemela]

André Lol Yes, that is the manufacturer's recommended service interval.

[@motik954]

8:30 - ???)))

[@findvoltage]

whos this little guy, looks like Cams little bro. must be about 12 here. haha

[@stefane458]

air forks

[@logannaramore54]

Btw you didn't put all the oil in

[@JayMoto]

wow thats alot of work i think i'll just have a shop do mine

[@jamesdepaul3410]

I'm not doing that...

[@austinhowell3463]

:D

[@leroy3303]

Dang this is old

[@mitchalmaines1232]

Wooow 😂 old video.

[@swemx7403]

They really need to make a easier way to do this.. i mean cmon! What the actual fuck? And im like, not having half of these tools! And dont come with bullshit like ''Then you shouldnt have a dirt bike!'' DUDE, even adjusting the valves on my 4 stroke is fucking easier then this!