Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader - DisneyCember

[@ChannelAwesome]

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[@seanpatrickcain2]

Who knows what adventures they’ll have between now and the time the franchise gets rebooted?

[@Krex_YT]

I enjoyed the first one and most of the second. I knew before Voyage of the Dawn Treader was filmed that they would have trouble adapting it to film without changes, so I try to give them a little slack. The structure of the book was almost more of an anthology of shorter adventures without a primary enemy. IMO, that doesn't lend itself to an easy film adaptation, but I thought it was decent at least.

[@van8ryan]

First was good, second was very good (somehow making one of the more boring books actually pretty exciting and thought-provoking). Sadly, DAWN TREADER IS the weakest of the films themselves.

[@air03man]

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[@BraveRhythm]

The Lion Witch and Wardrobes is pretty good. Prince Caspian was okay, they added some stupid plot devices. Voyage of the Dawn Treader is definitely the worst. They add even more stupid plot devices that weren’t needed. I recommend reading the book or viewing the BBC movie. Also the BBC got one book further in with the Silver Chair. If you haven’t seen the BBC movies I would recommend a watch. They aren’t terrible for when they came out.

[@corniifer]

"There was a boy called Eustace Clarence Scrubb, and he almost deserved it." -C.S. Lewis

[@ryangreen6255]

Lol

[@the1lostronin]

Yeah, he was a true pillock in that book but he really grows and him and Jill become my favorite characters of the series

[@jacksonbarnes3190]

This line is great when you remember that C.S Lewis’s middle name was staples

[@ryangreen6255]

@@jacksonbarnes3190 you're right 😮😮😮

[@jordancampbell8597]

@@jacksonbarnes3190 And his first name was Clive. Clive Staples Lewis--Is it any wonder he preferred to be called "Jack"?

[@Sleeper800]

The Chronicles of Narnia: The Disappearance of Caspian's Accent

[@MissBarker93]

Your icon is the best.

[@RiveroftheWither]

Whoopgur

[@Sleeper800]

@@MissBarker93 Thank you :)

[@2111jade]

😂😂

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

Oh great. Now I’m imagining an offshoot Pokémon Invader Zim. Zim is a Chibi deoxys

[@TheGuardDuck]

The thing is, the book didn't have a Big Bad; it was just a quest to reach the edge of the world, where Aslan's country was supposed to be. And it was a series of episodic mini-adventures. Prince Caspian was also a somewhat shorter story, and filler was added to that movie as well. In fact, when BBC made the older versions of these movies, they merged Caspian and Dawn Treader together, which was helpful since their stories happen close gether chronologically. And Eustace is pretty much himself from the book. You're not supposed to like him. He deserves everything he gets!

[@ryangreen6255]

And Caspian was TOO BLASTED OLD in the Prince Caspian movie. Why are High Kings and Queens booted because THEY are too but still younger than Caspian. And Fifteen is too old to be considered a child in that movie. (I just had to vent)

[@sterlingmuse5808]

@@ryangreen6255 Peter and Susan were too old because a)they were starting to become adults and forget about Narnia and b) they already got to be royalty for decades before leaving Narnia the first time. Meanwhile, Caspian is a part of Narnia completely; there would be no point for him to leave because that is where he is meant to be. Also, part of the point of the book is that even though the Telmarine's ancestors were jerks and conquered Narnia, they still inherited the throne and the resulting country after the story is a mixture of both Talking Animals and Telmarines. Caspian's family line goes on to rule Narnia until the actual end of time, too.

[@ryangreen6255]

@@sterlingmuse5808 you're probably right. I think Dom Noble said the actor for Prince Caspian was in his 20's. Which makes Aslan look like a hypocrite. But he said only a child shall assume the throne. Caspian in the movie was clearly Not a child.

[@musicalhistory4392]

Yeah this is the only one that was adapted into a movie and I also read the book for, and the book is just an adventure book with short moral stories with the ending being the Edge of the World, the quest adaptation in the movie made it feel so much more like a video game design and then defeat the Final Boss.

[@ZagLineGaming]

Spot on with the Tilda Swinton observation. She was literally only there for the trailers. She's not even mentioned in the books. She died 1200 years ago as far as Caspian is concerned. The Magician's Nephew, (The 6th book) is her origin story. The twist is the book turns out to be a prequel about 2/3s in. I don't really think that's a spoiler because about 20 years ago they reordered the books to be Chronological even though doing so ruins that twist.

[@VicenteTorresAliasVits]

There are many trilogies out there where the main actors appear in each installment, even if it's just a pointless cameo, because they sign contracts in advance. It becomes even more obvious when they make a 4th movie and the cast is different (like PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN). And one could even make the argument that we didn't need to see Peter & Susan here either (whether they were in the book or not).

[@TheGuardDuck]

Oooh!! It wasn't the first book?? Wow... Well, IMO, it fits better there. I read it first, before Wardrobe.

[@ZagLineGaming]

@@TheGuardDuck Yeah, Horse and His Boy was originally Book #5 and Magician's Nephew was #6.

[@oblivionslefthand]

The first time I read the books, I read them chronologically rather than in release order. I knew The Magician's Nephew was the 6th book, but the box set I got said it was the first, so I read it first. It was actually a pretty cool experience, as when I read through some of the later books I actually knew what was going on to a better degree than if I had read them in their intended order. You can only read a book for the first time once, so I'm glad I did it that way since it gave me a different experience than, to what I would expect would be, most people who read it in release order.

[@TheGuardDuck]

@@ZagLineGaming Honestly, that makes sense. Given that the main arc with the Pevensie kids is over, now making a prequel story, and a "expanded universe" story, well that just makes sense. Actually, Nephew, Horse, and Last Battle all feel like expanded universe ideas, after he finished the main storyline.

[@mastermixmovies687]

Reepicheep the mouse has the biggest emotional growth because the book's Christian theme is dedicated to him. The Voyage of the Dawn Treader is about the spiritual life.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Exactly

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

Amen!!!

[@sterlingmuse5808]

The movie kinda loses this theme by trying to tie everything together the way it does.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

@@sterlingmuse5808 That was part of the books

[@BugsyFoga]

It's pretty humorous that the Narnia franchise moved to fox just so it could get back into Disney's hands .

[@archelaus1598]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Right. They would be no excuse for them not to continue the series

[@mattwolf7698]

I think Netflix got the rights a few years back but they haven't done anything with it.

[@ryangreen6255]

That's scary seeing how they mutilated A Wrinkle in Time.

[@chrismulwee4911]

Well the thing is, Disney didn't produce the films, they only released them. They were produced by Walden Media, and the Mouse House merely distributed the first two. They decided on Fox to release the third installment for some reason.

[@ThemeParkAvenue]

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[@DisneyNAW]

Eighteenth, not seventeenth

[@ThemeParkAvenue]

@@DisneyNAW shoot, sorry. Fixed now. Thank you.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

I'm glad this is still going on

[@MsGigglesluv]

This reminds me of Dinah Shore long as hell 12 days of Christmas from the Pee Wee Christmas special

[@trinaq]

Yes, we'll NEVER get tired of this running comment chain! 💖🥳

[@MadHatter42]

Did anyone else notice that Caspian's accent changed between the second and third movies? In 'Prince Caspian', Ben Barnes gave the character a Spanish accent, but then changed it to a posh English accent in 'Dawn Treader'. Personally, I liked the Spanish one better; Caspian was of Telmarine blood, a member of a foreign nation who invaded and conquered Narnia after the Pevensies left. The different accents reflected the cultural and political diversity of the Narnian universe, which made it feel much more fleshed out and interesting.

[@lindaschreifels9889]

@@oliviarogers3559 I think the director said the exact same thing And I have to say, it never sat right with me. How would he not come across as mature and as a leader while having an accent?

[@lindaschreifels9889]

@@oliviarogers3559 but that’s not the accents fault. That’s just the way he’s communicating. It could be possible that in the second movie whenever he’s speaking to Narnians and the Pevensie children he’s not speaking in his native dialect and that his words and thoughts when addressing other Telmarines are being translated for the viewer. With that interpretation, the issue comes because your translating as you’re speaking and things get lost in the translating process because the nuances that your native language allows is lost. And even if that interpretation is wrong, there’re plenty of people with strong accents that are mature and in positions of leadership. To me, it just comes off badly to say that an accent makes a person appear ill suited for positions of authority.

[@LavenousForever]

I had no idea disney didn’t do this movie 🤣

[@sharp52092]

Me either

[@autumbreeze1129]

Me either 😂

[@Nefnoj]

Me either

[@M644theawesome]

I had no idea there was a 3rd one

[@MrGabeanator]

i knew but

[@augustuscb]

As one that thought the movie was pretty average, I think they perfectly nailed Eustace. Do you know how the book begins? The first sentence reads: "There was a boy called Eustace Clarence Scrubb, and he almost deserved it." That encapsulates Eustace until he finds redemption. He is an ass from the beginning, his foul character is expressed in his turning into a dragon, and he remains so until he is freed by Aslan. Also notice, Eustace doesn't really find redemption or earn it by transforming himself. It's given to him, unmerited, without consideration for his previous actions. Aslan simply grants him new life. If you know C. S. Lewis (especially from his first Narnia book), this encapsulates his Christian convictions perfectly.

[@ryangreen6255]

Agreed. I remember Eustace Desperately trying to change himself representing the fact that sinful man can't make himself un-sinful.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@ryangreen6255 i didn't know that saying about "Sinful men can't make themselves unsinful"

[@ryangreen6255]

@@ianr.navahuber2195 meaning you can't save yourself. "Not of works, lest any man should boast." --Ephesians 2:8-9

[@artsman412]

It was so powerful in the book, in the movie it just comes out of nowhere. Hate this movie the most for botching that scene.

[@jordancampbell8597]

And to add on to it, it makes sense that Edmund is still haunted by Jadis, the White Witch. "Eustace, you've only been an ass...but I was a traitor."

[@mgormley7530]

I'm still upset this series ended before The Silver Chair, they were so close!

[@eryhv]

Oh well, hopefully, Netflix pulls through!

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

@@eryhv I highly doubt that my friend.

[@PixarShark]

I have stayed generally optimistic about the Narnia stuff once Netflix finally gets around to it, but after what happened with Cuties............errrrrrrrrgh.......

[@VicenteTorresAliasVits]

@@PixarShark What does that have to do with this?

[@mattwolf7698]

@@eryhv They don't seem to be doing anything with it, I'm starting to wish Disney had kept it, it could have been a great show to pull people to Disney+ I have some family members that I know would have definitely bought Disney+ to watch that as they are big Narnia fans.

[@kevinboudreaux7860]

Yeah voyage of the dawn treadar was probably the lowest stakes book, they were just sailing west looking for Aslans home country. I liked the book though since it was so laid back

[@Waterford1992]

I think you mean they were sailing East!

[@andrewyp6724]

@@Waterford1992 No, he thought they were sailing Weast!

[@luthientinuviel3883]

Yeah it was just really fun

[@spazzyshortgirl23]

And looking for the 10 missing Lords

[@deirdregibbons5609]

Me, too.

[@muddy5013]

Ah right this was the movie that cemented Will Poulter as “the eyebrow kid”

[@SoloJona]

And right after, he showed up in Maze Runner stepping up his eyebrow game

[@ECL28E]

He's a live-action Sid from Toy Story

[@DisneyLover258]

Everytime he's in anything, I just call him Eustace because he was THAT PERFECT in this roll.

[@rushmaverick1923]

I swear, if Hollywood ever decided to attempt another Live-Action Dragon Ball movie that was about the Cell arc, I would have no problem with him playing the whitewashed version of future Trunks in that movie. The eyebrows just makes it look like he's got that "always angry" look in his eyes that makes you think it's genetic, like he inherited it from one of his parents.

[@randalgraves6979]

Never saw maze runner, first saw him in We’re the Miller’s.

[@coasterjudge]

Dawn Treader's problem is that the book is written episodically and they tried to tie it all together which went against the books main themes.

[@luthientinuviel3883]

It would have been way better as a miniseries tbh

[@ryangreen6255]

@@luthientinuviel3883 agreed

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

Exactly

[@MadHatter42]

The bits about collecting the magical swords to lay them at the table of Aslan to stop the evil green mist was all added in the film to try and give it more of a connected, flowing narrative, but all it does it highlight how forced an awkward the idea is when it's shoved into a more loosely-told Odyssey-like adventure. The only scene from the movie I remember is when Eustace is whining about the journey, mockingly saying "Oh, we have to go find seven magical steak knives and put them on the dinner table of a talking lion!" And, yeah, that's a pretty accurate summary of why it's such a bad adaptation, as well as a mediocre film.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@MadHatter42 I liked the film giving them a goal though (then again that is mine opinión given I read the book after watching the film). The one change almost everyone has to argue movie did better was that Eustace remains a dragón for longer and actually uses those abilities. Compared to the book where he stays like that for a night, learns his lesson, and kinda remains irrelevant for the rest of the book. Kinda sad the "sky opened in half " from The book wasn't used though and instead we got the "Ocean forms a still Wave that opens a portal"

[@jessedellross3245]

I thought eustece was the best part of the movie. He’s so much of an ass it’s actually really enjoyable to see him get his comeuppance. And it makes his redemption and reform really good.

[@trinaq]

I agree, I love Will Poulter's acting, and I liked getting to see Eustece really grow and mature as a character, even if Poulter DID play him a bit TOO well, in my opinion! 😉💚

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

AGREED!!!

[@thefirstbourne149]

@@trinaq Except we don't really see him go through this arc. WE see his dragon self go through it. It's not as impactful, I have to say.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@thefirstbourne149 You think that is bad? In the book he transforms into a dragón, and next day he got his development of no longer being a jerk. At least the movie gives his dragón self the character Arc while giving his dragón form something to do

[@MandleRoss]

Yeah, and it's not like he peed on an ancestral tree or anything.

[@TSLIL1000]

NC: Eustace is way to miserable Eustace's actor in other films: wait you guys are getting paid?

[@jonmarcusfottland8995]

i literally didn't realize that it was him until right now

[@alekseyl172]

I don't get it, what's the joke?

[@jonmarcusfottland8995]

@@alekseyl172 it’s the same guy who plays that character from we’re the Millers

[@alekseyl172]

@@jonmarcusfottland8995 Ooooookey.

[@TheGuardDuck]

THATS WHY HE LOOKED SO FAMILIAR!!!

[@yoshim616]

I think this movie has a bit of a forced climax compared to the book. This story is less of an overall narrative and more of a story about the journey, and more of a journey of self-discovery.

[@proteamdirector]

The book is more episodic, with each island they visit being like its own short story. I was actually fine with them making the nightmare island the central antagonist for the movie, they just needed better writing to have it all tie together smoother.

[@artsman412]

I describe the book as a Christian version of The Odyssey; a single goal drives them on their journey and they interact with things they find on the way. It was extremely effective. This just feels generic and soulless.

[@addisondrake733]

i actually like the climax better than the other movies

[@fish7598]

I think it would've worked better as a miniseries tbh

[@addisondrake733]

@@fish7598 i hope that's what netflix is doing

[@BENJAMOSAURUS]

Having read the book and not watched the movie, they seem to have changed a lot of things, probably not for the better, The book was far from perfect but the plot was simple, find these men (generals?) who were friends to Caspian's Father and banished by the evil guy from the second movie, and we discover what happened to each of them, for the better or the worse.

[@kasaibouF29]

Doug: Eustace is such a complaining nag. He was dragged into the adventure, so it makes sense.

[@sdsign4229]

Honestly I feel bad for the actor. If he keeps getting typecasted, he'll be a poor man's Jack Gleeson.

[@averyalyse]

He was great in Bandersnatch, and it was a role that wasn't a whiny douche.

[@Phanthief95]

@@sdsign4229 Will Poulter won’t be typecast as that, especially after Bandersnatch & We’re the Millers.

[@lazychords7900]

They got Eustace’s annoying griping down in that movie

[@artsman412]

Too bad they left out the powerful scene of how he changed back. Seriously, that was one of the best parts of the book!

[@jessicalinbarnett]

Eustace is one of the annoying characters. Like he wouldn't be my cousin 😂 I'd slap him lol

[@artsman412]

@@KairuHakubi Yep. Eustace stays a dragon most of the movie, then Aslan just shows up near the end, roars, and he's changed back. Completely lacks the spiritual element in the book.

[@biblegirl]

The issue with this adaptation is that this book is very episodic, designed to be read a chapter a night sort of thing. Eustace also really grows in the series after this book.

[@lsufan4138]

This came out ten years ago? Shit, I'm getting old.

[@MxMcGeeky]

I have a love/hate relationship with this movie. I love the casting and Eustace was casted great! Reepicheep is awesome as usual. But the plot was a mess. They just took bits and pieces from the book and slapped it over a whole new goal. The whole point was that C.S. Lewis always wanted to write a book based around a seafaring adventure similar to The Odyssey. The adventure was about finding old friends of Caspian’s father that his Uncle basically sent away to their deaths. The swords were not magic, it was just how they could identify them as most of them did in fact die. Reepicheep was hoping to find Aslan’s Country on the journey to prove that it’s real (his faith is so strong you can’t help but feel it yourself). Eustace is pretty spot on, but they drag it out quite a bit. Lucy was a bit jealous of Susan but it wasn’t centered around that but rather Lucy’s insecurities on how people view her. It was more so that Lucy thought Susan was good at socializing. Susan was popular and so confident. The movie dragged out a lot of these issues when really each island was basically an episode where each character had their own character growth/reflecting. Nightmare island wasn’t even a huge plot line. It was simply another island where people had to overcome their fears and have faith. Reepicheep and Lucy ultimately having the strongest faith. The book was a katabasis. The movie just mushed it altogether.

[@scorchedshadow]

I honestly forgot there was a second Narnia movie, so I was really surprised when i found out that this was a third one!

[@mrflipperinvader7922]

And people till this day are still surprised the the lion was voiced by Liam Neeson Also Will Poulter man...

[@ashleytripp8111]

Finally! The trilogy is completed! I don't expect you to think it's perfect. I still love Caspian and Lucy. I love the sequel. This one is okay.

[@cyberruck]

In the book one of the kids was turned into a dragon by touching cursed gold and couldn't go back. Asland used his claws to RIP his dragon flesh off,to free him,METAL AS HELL.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Him turning into a Dragon was because of how bad his heart was. As far as the washing scene goes, it represented baptism & forgiveness for his sin.

[@ryangreen6255]

That's Eustace

[@AtarahDerek]

And then picked up the kid, a loaf of raw flesh, with his mouth and flung him into a pond. I loved it!

[@caldadextra2063]

Also, Jadis functions more like an archetype than an actual person. She first comes into Narnia thanks to the antics of Diggory and Polly in Magicians Nephew, manifests as the white queen in Wardrobe, gets conjured by a werewolf in Caspian, is the lady at the table in Treader, and is the queen of the underground in Silver Chair.

[@TheGuardDuck]

Pretty sure she was dead as dead in Wardrobe. In Caspian, they try to call her back, but the ritual is ended before she even appears (unlike the movie), and wasn't the green lady in Silver Chair totally different? And I don't remember any evil woman in Dawn Treader.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

She was the Queen in Silver Chair?! I forgot that

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@TheGuardDuck yeah, i was sure she was different Witch from jadid

[@KanishQQuotes]

Movie Eustace is exactly how he's in the book

[@caldadextra2063]

Will poulter is one of those guys I'll see in something like Midsommar and be like"...wasn't he Eaustace in Dawn Treader?"

[@lrose1310]

I still cause him Eustace to this day. He was so perfectly casted.

[@princessthyemis]

:O

[@princessthyemis]

@@lrose1310 he WAS!

[@bookmovietvworm]

Same here, I will always associate him with this role

[@thegunslinger1363]

The Narina films were part of my childhood. The first was the best of the three.

[@chasehedges6775]

The best childhood movies ever.

[@Lukethefox]

I grew up on the BBC TV series myself but it is nice how different generations are exposed to the series.

[@Raximus3000]

You missed part 4. Eustace with a girl travel to Narnia and they meet stone people, giants and Tom Baker, lol.

[@somerandolad]

Prince Caspian was my favourite of the three movies.

[@Lukethefox]

@@Raximus3000 Also it ends with a fight with a giant snake prop XD.

[@Draceosfire]

Still wish they made a film for the last book. The last battle imo would make a amazing movie if done right.

[@ilovegames8287]

I literally had no idea that there was a third Narnia movie.

[@nicocancilla8386]

Lots of people did. I am still waiting for The Sliver Chair.

[@Meerschweinchenweitwurfchamp]

@@nicocancilla8386 Hope its not to late, the actor is probably to old already..

[@BraveRhythm]

Well Netflix has the rights to making Narnia movies so they might redo all of them. So far the BBC has made the most movies doing 4 them into miniseries. In the 80s

[@dogman15]

@@Meerschweinchenweitwurfchamp They would no doubt have to re-cast Eustace, and Liam Neeson could come back as Aslan's voice, but The Silver Chair is - other than that - composed entirely of new characters (Jill Pole, Puddleglum, Prince Rillian, etc.)

[@wstine79]

Nostalgia Critic: "We spoken often of Disneycember in the days that followed. When my fellow critics left after the war ended, I missed them with all my heart, as I know all Kickassians will miss them 'til the end of time."

[@fanfaretloudest]

5:53 People who see this scene out of context are probably thinking Lucy's like "The water is talking to me, wth??" LOL

[@therealbwells2024]

When you find out Prince Caspian is played by the same actor that played Billy Russo in The Punisher....

[@TheIceman101418]

Ohhhh man, now I see. Holy cow

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

WHAT?!?!?!

[@EdwardNewgate58]

The Neflix show or the movie?

[@therealbwells2024]

@@EdwardNewgate58 netflix show

[@EdwardNewgate58]

@@therealbwells2024 Ahhh, ok! I See it!

[@mattwolf7698]

The White Witch didn't keep appearing in the later books from what I remember, she was in a prequel that never got made into a movie though. Really as a fan of the books, the fact that she kept appearing kind of annoyed me.

[@JP2GiannaT]

I was trying to figure out if they were trying to set up the green witch from The Silver Chair and hinting it was a White Witch reincarnation in this one, since she shows up in a green mist. That's the only thing I could figure.

[@enriquev1271]

I mean Tilda as the white witch is a Narnia ICON, I totally understand they trying to put her in each movie

[@samperry5383]

Aslan has more facial expressions than the Lion King 2019 remake

[@mstretch0430]

Well Eustace was like that in the book so they kept him like that in the movie.

[@thefirstbourne149]

Not everything from books translates well into film, which actually does seem like most of this film if you can't even remember the mission. I even forgot the mission of this story!!

[@jbcatz5]

Correction, Eustace Clarence Scrubb, because that’s how the book always refers to him due to being a pompous dick.

[@3353080]

I liked the cousin character. More even in the next book.

[@3353080]

The last time i was this early, Aslan was still singing...

[@eryhv]

@@3353080 I understood that reference!

[@3353080]

@リナックス変態レトロワルド94 only in the last book.

[@3353080]

@リナックス変態レトロワルド94 i was talkin about The Last Battle. It was Caspian who die. Old age.

[@adrielcruz2736]

5:37 it’s his mane and color scheme, it doesn’t look as natural as it used to and is a little more brighter than normal, and his mane is much more bright and colorful than it normally was

[@konraddromero]

I actually kind of forgot that this movie existed

[@jonmarcusfottland8995]

same. i thought it was kinda bland too

[@sofiav4353]

I actively make myself forget that it exists lmao.

[@user-dr2yz8um3d]

Really? I’m the movie guy and I have fond memories

[@sofiav4353]

@@user-dr2yz8um3d I personally think because the first two played such a big role in my childhood that I got so attached to them and when Peter and Susan didn't return and the entire third movie felt off in its direction. Kind of like it wasn't related to the first two, it gave me the hibbiejibbies and i disliked it. It's just a little depressing imo.

[@louisduarte8763]

Apparently, so did a lot of people, and that's why Disney didn't try to adapt the other Narnia books.

[@francisfatta]

I’d say these films are fine, but there is one thing I always get out of them: the effects are spectacular!

[@sitrepproductionsatlanta8538]

This was one of my favorites of the books. In all fairness, they did a good job adapting it using what they had to work with because the book didn’t have much of a plot either. It was more of an episodic adventure with each island they reached being a different chapter in an overall story. The movie needed an overall plot to connect them all and this was the best they could do.

[@FletcherReedsRandomness]

What is up with Eustace's eyebrows? It looks like he's constantly confused.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

That's the actor. I've seen him in the Maze Runner movies and it seems like he cannot physically lower his eyebrows.

[@FletcherReedsRandomness]

I thought he looked familiar. He’s Gally, if I’m remembering correctly.

[@corahtheskeleton8062]

Wouldn't you be if you ended up in the ocean through a painting that's been on your wall for ages?

[@matthewmuir8884]

To be fair, it does fit the character, as he pretty much is constantly confused for most of the film.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

@@FletcherReedsRandomness You are.

[@joshuawells835]

This was the film that took the most liberties from the source material, which is said as a fan of C.S. Lewis. The Voyage of the Dawn Treader is my father's favorite of the Narnia books because of the reception and baptism of Eustace. He also likes the first line of the book,"There once was a boy called Eustace Clarence Scrubb, and he almost deserved it." The purpose of the voyage is to sail into the Great Eastern Sea to find seven lost lords, who were loyal to Caspian IV (Caspian's father) and forced to flee when Miraz took the throne. Once they got past the Lone Islands, they would be sailing into uncharted waters, with the only knowledge being if they sailed to the utter east, they would reach the end of the world of Narnia and beyond would be Aslan's Country. So each new island they came across was a new island charted. The part able the seven swords was added and the Dark Island made more dramatic than in the book. But I agree, it was effectively just another Narnia film, which is probably because it was a different studio from the last two. I grew up with the old BBC Serials and then the Disney films and I still enjoy all of them. Netflix has the rights to new Narnia films/tv shows, so we'll see what they come up with.

[@riftshredder5438]

Its so funny when the best parts about Eustace were when he was a dragon lol

[@jonmarcusfottland8995]

that is the only part i remember

[@riftshredder5438]

@@jonmarcusfottland8995 exactly, if he was a dragon the whole time then I would have loved him

[@noellechapman7667]

This one is actually my favorite. I found the ending to be really touching

[@spazzyshortgirl23]

The thing that made Narnia fans maddest was that Eustace’s redemption scene which is SO emotional in the book is inter played with the dumb dark island stuff. I would’ve been up for perhaps the Star’s daughter joining them on the quest for a while, and her being pals with Lucy. Instead, the cartoony dark island crap took the focus away. My sister is a major Lewis nut and HATES this movie. We saw it in theaters, and never again.

[@luthientinuviel3883]

Especially since the star girl is meant to fall in love with Caspian. They could have developed their love story, dammit

[@polyhymnia701]

@@luthientinuviel3883 True. It frustrated me that we learn so little about that character in the book. The movie could have given her some substance. Nice username, btw!

[@luthientinuviel3883]

@@polyhymnia701 thanks

[@deirdregibbons5609]

Thanks for the review. I never saw this movie, so it was good to hear your opinion. I did read all the books and love them. I was happy that we were able to get three feature movies in the Narnia-verse. I was really hoping the series would be able to continue. The "Horse and His Boy" is my favorite Narnia book, and I'd love to see it as a movie.

[@reythejediladyviajakku6078]

Fun fact: Georgie Henley grew up to play Margaret Tudor in “The Spanish Princess “ she’s so good in that role

[@Elfos64]

In the book, the mission was to find 9 lords of Narnia who scattered to the land. For some reason, they added magic swords in this movie.

[@StephySon]

You didn’t talk about my favorite part. During the fight with the serpent, Lucy looks to the sky and says “Aslan, help us” a bird comes down and flies by and nothing at all happens. To this day me and my younger brother laugh hysterically at that scene

[@A.G.O.M.]

IKR LMAO. what was that bird supposed to be? 🤣

[@StephySon]

@@A.G.O.M. you don’t understand. We were laughing hysterically about that scene for like 5 minutes. It’s an inside joke to this day. We’ll just look at each other and be like “Aslan help us” And just bust out laughing 😂

[@A.G.O.M.]

Lol

[@HarryThomasPictures]

Most underrated Narnia movie, I'm shocked it has the lowest Rotten Tomatoes score of the Trilogy? I preferred it to Prince Caspian!

[@chasehedges6775]

I love this film.

[@addisondrake733]

this is my favorite of the trilogy

[@A.G.O.M.]

It’s Ok, but I think Prince Caspian is a lot better.

[@joshuahansen9797]

I haven't seen these movies in 2 years, and what I remember is really loving this and the first one and thinking the second one was just okay. The first one was the best though, no comparison. Watching this and seeing Doug's thoughts on the other two makes me wanna go watch and watch them all again, including this one. I really love Narnia and got really into because I grew up with these movies as a kid. I remember being scared to see Aslan in the first one because he was a lion and I was like 4 years old and I was afraid of lions lol. But I really loved the movie, and I really love the franchise as a whole, and I really love the world of Narnia. I hope Disney does more stuff, maybe based on the other books, because it would be really interesting. But for now, I'm on winter break, maybe I'll go back and have fun rewatching the trilogy we got!!!

[@IamMeHere2See]

Minority here: I'm actually pleased with this film. Of all the books to adapt, this & The Magician's Nephew would be the hardest. The book didn't have a grand or even consistent antagonist; it was just a journey to the lands where the sun rose. Every chapter was a new island & conflict that had to be faced, which made it perfect for young readers who had just started moving to more challenging literature. As such, I accept the compromises the filmmakers made to bring it to the big screen. Because it's not a book anymore. It's meant to be consumed in one go.

[@stellaa284]

I am pleased as well! I actually enjoy this movie! Though a big part is because of the cast's chemistry.

[@ComboSmooth]

iirc, the novel Voyage of the Dawn Treader is mostly Eustace's story. Like he learns to be less of a brat. Then also Reepicheep has some moments... i feel like Caspian is mostly along for the ride despite the journey being technically his quest. Hard to remember, it's been a long time.

[@luthientinuviel3883]

He has a cool moment where he abolishes slavery in the Lone Islands (my personal favorite episode) but yeah he's not as prominantly featured

[@JaySkywalker94]

Reading the book years ago, I remember it being very episodic, like 20000 Leagues Under the Sea. The characters just travel across the sea, reaching different islands and dealing with the problems on each island. There was no over arching story connecting them all, other than the fact it was just the characters experience.

[@EleanorTopsie]

I know that I've seen this movie but literally ALL I remember from it is the ending-scene with the mouse following Aslan and Aslan sending the kids back home DEFINITELY not a good sign :'D

[@NamaTheNerd]

I live for the closing pun.

[@sparxstreak02]

My main gripe of this film: Caspian’s accent (from the last film) magically changing from Spanish 2 English - WTF?!

[@shadowoflaughter]

What about when they're in the middle of the town and no one seems to be around and they're all investigating and Eustace looks through a window and sees a family cowering in the corner and goes "right no one here, let's go back!"

[@timidwolf]

I grew up with the BBC adaptions from the late 80s/early 90s, it may well be the nostalgia talking but the films paled in comparison for me!

[@Manganra7]

"Voyage" was always my favorite book in the series. Seeing how dirty they did the book in the movie was so infuriating. It was *almost* an adaptation in name only. Think "Ella Enchanted" book vs. movie and you'll understand my pain a little.

[@brianalambert1192]

Yeah this is one of those books that was a bit more of a road trip. The original story, there were 9 lords who served Caspian's father, and they were sent across the sea to "explore" but in reality Caspian's uncle just wanted to get rid of them. So Caspian vowed that once Narnia was at peace again he would go searching for the 9 lords to either bring them home or discover what had happened to them and avenge their deaths if necessary. They also intended to sail to Aslan's country, mapping the way, with Reepicheep following a prophecy from his birth that he should journey to the east. The movie added the mist as a bit of a foe, and then played up the different characters' "arcs". In the book Lucy does feel temptation when she is reading the spell book to turn herself into such a beautiful woman that the wars were fought over her. But she saw a picture of Aslan looking at her in the book and felt ashamed, so she didn't. That was the beginning and end of it. Edmund, if I remember correctly, did have a fight with Caspian at the pool that turned things to gold, but it had more to do with Caspian wanting to use the pool to make Narnia wealthy, trying to order them into secrecy, and Edmund firing back, and again, Aslan came into the picture, they saw him, forgot about what they were arguing about, and they named the pool Deathpool and left. Caspian's arc in the book was more about wanting to go to Aslan's country and never return, but everyone reminded him that he is king and he has that responsibility. There was a subplot that someone needed to go to Aslan's country in order to free the last three lords from a spell that kept them asleep for years. So someone needed to go. And in the end it was Reepicheep. Honestly, the one character arc they got perfectly is Eustace. That kid is playing him just as annoying as he was in the book, pitch perfect. Until he became a dragon and was so miserable he actually started reflecting on how badly he had treated everyone.

[@decusq]

it's weird i woke up this morning with Narnia on the brain for no reason and suddenly my day is practically surrounded by it

[@strawberrysoulforever8336]

I'm just remembering the book starting by saying that Eustace "almost deserved" his rather embarrassing name (full name, that is).

[@gokusondbz]

Honestly I Wished Thay Had Made A Movie Based On Book 3 'The Horse And His Boy' 😞

[@jbcatz5]

Maybe because the book is less known and it’s an entirely new set of characters rather than carrying over anyone from a previous book. The Pevensies get a cameo appearance.

[@AtarahDerek]

That's book 5.

[@jbcatz5]

@@AtarahDerek If you’re going by official release order the Horse and his Boy is book 3, Dawn Treader being book 5.

[@AtarahDerek]

@@jbcatz5 No, if you're going by official release (i.e. publishing) order, HHB is #5. It's third chronologically (sort of), but VERY much the fifth one written and published. Why do you think LWW has a line about the audience not knowing who Aslan is? And what about the line in VDT where Jack says he doesn't know how the Lone Islands came to be attached to Narnia politically, but if he ever found out, he'd write it down? And then he did in MN!

[@AtarahDerek]

Jack himself said that the series could be read chronologically IF you had ALREADY read it through once. There are late arrival spoilers all throughout MN, and that's why Jack did NOT want first time readers starting with MN.

[@dragoncat3499]

Also yes, Eustace was casted perfectly, he really is that much of a snot before his arc in the book. I don't know why, but I found him hilarious when I first read the book, and as someone who doesn't laugh often, he is one of two book characters that have ever made me laugh out loud. He's still fantastic even after his arc, and he and Jill Pole have a great dynamic together and play off each other wonderfully in the last two books.

[@princessthyemis]

I kinda wish this movies series still was continuing!!

[@jeremiahdansereau2950]

Fun Fact... in the book, the mission was just funding the 9 Lords, the part with the green mist and the magic swords are not in the book.

[@somethingsuperbland8829]

I remember I read the first book in sixth grade and loved it even though all I can remember is them falling out of the wardrobe shocked to find they’re kids again at the end.

[@naomil7830]

This was always my favorite of the books. It seems like they changed too much of it to keep the heart of it and make things like Lucy’s jealousy play wrong when that’s one of my favorite bits of the book.

[@wadenbeisser2491]

Amazing 3d effect on the thumbnail!

[@youseineko]

As I’m sure other people have pointed out already, the stuff with the mist and collecting swords to dispel it wasn’t in the book. The film writers added that because...every fantasy movie has to have a fetch quest, I guess. I don’t think the monster they fought at the end was in the book, either. The original story was that Caspian was looking for seven lords who were banished by his uncle Miraz (from the last movie). That’s it. It was a basic plot that allowed for random adventures along the way.

[@frederic77716]

The book is a lot different. I think the changes that they made are okay.

[@sitrepproductionsatlanta8538]

I said the same thing. They did the best with what they had to work with.

[@stellaa284]

Yeah I actually think it turned out really well!

[@Phantomgirl259]

I love this franchise!

[@chasehedges6775]

Me too. Its fantastic.

[@BlueEye096]

I loved the first movie as a kid and enjoyed the second one well enough. This movie completely fell off my radar and I didn't know of its existance until just a few years ago. Don't think I missed too much.

[@blueteller]

Personally, I really like this movie a lot. And I immensely respect the people who worked on it; it's probably the hardest Narnia book to adapt. Why? Because unlike the rest of them, there really, really isn't an overall goal or stakes aside from "reach the East". I don't mind that they added an antagonistic force to make it more interesting. Although, if you really wanted to make a faithful adaptation, it would work better as a mini-series that one movie. The book is literally a bunch of adventures on a sea voyage. It's my favorite of Narnia stories, but it doesn't make a good 1.5 hour movie.

[@avivastudios2311]

you're right about the adaptation thing but I still think they could come up with a better threat than a green fart.

[@aaaagggghhhh6370]

fun fact !! The Chronicles of Narnia: The Silver Chair "4th" movie was starting filming a couple of years after The Voyage of the Dawn Treader but never was finished !!!

[@pinkrangersarah]

It was wild that I saw Will Poulter (Eustace) in The Maze Runner as Gally and did not recognize him at all. I legitimately forgot this movie existed and that he was in it.

[@jdzencelowcz]

While the bbc miniseries’ll always have a place in my heart, the updates of these stories R really well made. Really wish they’d continued!

[@benjaminsvideochannel7189]

I Watched Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn a week ago for it's ten year anniversary

[@jordanwillner2850]

The book is WAYYYYY better. In fact for me personally, it was my favorite of the Narnia books. Basically cause it was exploring the rest of the lands outside of Narnia. The goal in the book was to find the seven lost lords of Narnia who were banished by King Miraz. The movie basically gives the cliff note version of the book....

[@Chimcharlover13]

As I've been doing for years now on Doug's DisneyCember videos, I'll be posting a ranking of the order that I believe Doug likes all the movies/shows he reviews. Why? Because I feel like it. And, remember, it's just my opinion on how I THINK Doug feels from what he's saying in the review! RANKINGS: 1. Hamilton 2. Phineas & Ferb 3. Lilo & Stich: The Series 4. The Wonderful World Of Mickey Mouse 5. Star Vs. The Forces Of Evil 6. Captain EO 7. Onward 8. The Incredible Journey 9. Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey 10. Candace Against The Universe 11. Chronicles Of Narnia: The Voyage Of The Dawn Treader 12. Spies In Disguise 13. Star Wars: Rise Of Skywalker 14. Bedtime Stories 15. The New Mutants 16. Dark Phoenix 17. Mulan (2020) 18. Artemis Fowl 19. Secret Society Of Second-Born Royals

[@alexl.7668]

To be fair, the book was kind of like this too. It was one of my least favorite books in the series. Since there’s going to be a Narnia series, I can’t wait to see The Silver Chair.

[@caldadextra2063]

Many come down, and few return to the Sunlit lands

[@caldadextra2063]

There's also this moment that they deadass run into Kronus just kind of chilling underground

[@Alejandroigarabide]

I admire your optimism. You really think Disney will continue the story? As a fan I'd hope so but I don't think they will. Disney has shown no interest in the franchise and the actors are much older now. Granted, only Eustace and Aslan return for the next book, but I'm afraid a reboot seems more likely.

[@alexl.7668]

@@Alejandroigarabide I thought Disney plus was rebooting it.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

@@alexl.7668 Well, that's good news. I didn't know that. I know the Disney investor day didn't mention that but they didn't mention the Hercules or Lilo and Stitch remakes either and yet they are in pre production.

[@draco14215]

It was my favorite book out of the series growing up it’s sad how much the movie missed.

[@masonwheeler6536]

These were the books that sparked a lifelong love of fantasy in me. (Tolkien came a few years later.) I've got a nephew now who's the same age I was when I first read Narnia. My sister (his mom) says that he likes adventure stories, so guess what he's getting for Christmas this year?

[@miniespeon158]

This was my introduction to fantasy as a young child

[@chasehedges6775]

For me, it was as well.

[@bigkidsclubhq]

I hope for there to be a complete Narnia movie series someday. 🤞🏻 Maybe make it an epic HBO-style series and devote a show to each book or something.

[@mattwolf7698]

Netflix got the rights years ago but irritatingly they don't seem to be doing anything with it.

[@bigkidsclubhq]

@@mattwolf7698 Yeah, I think they were going to make a movie adapting The Magician’s Nephew and see if there was any interest since that one’s a prequel to the other stories, but it never happened because nobody really cared, except us few who actually want to see these stories again.

[@kayladisney15]

The mission was more defined in the book. Caspian wanted to find these lords that were banished to the lost islands by his uncle to see if they were still alive or has died!

[@troyortiz3926]

The ending was so emotional

[@dbzking02]

Will Poulter is such a good actor. This movie was the first thing I ever saw him in, and he always manages to make me hate him in everything I've seen him in. And the eyebrows help, of course.

[@brandonw6139]

True story time. When I was kid around 8 years old I had just seen the second Narnia movie. Had a supply teacher in that day who said he could point out anywhere on a globe If you give him a place. So me trying to trick him laughed and said find the Caspian Sea. Referencing the movie I had Just seen. I was blown away when there actually was a Caspian Sea that I had no idea existed

[@Some_Average_Joe]

Imma be honest, I remember more from the crappy BBC mini series version more than this version. Also, the in the book they were just sailing around having random adventures and generally exploring. There was no over arching enemy to defeat. Honestly, they should have made it as a mini series instead of this since the book was so episodic in its story telling.

[@dbzking02]

I haven't seen this movie since it was in theatres, and I honestly forgot about mostly 90% of this movie. All I really remember was part of the last 20 minutes and they were fighting a giant sea snake or something.

[@KyeGuard]

"Some children played games about Narnia, and gradually got balmier and balmier."

[@shikitohno1756]

I'll always remember dawn treader for being the basis of my favorite chapter in the VN forest, a story where the characters face life or death challenges based on classic lit. From the sounds of this review, despite having it's own characters and including the Whinny the pooh cast in the adventure, that chapter was more faithful to at least the spirit of the book

[@collaterale1]

It was going to get its fourth entry, The Magician's Nephew, into a movie, but the contract with the author's estate has since been expired in 2011.

[@jessebrown1996]

Well we didn't really need a prequel film.