Spider-Man 4 - Why it could NEVER work

[@s.storumus8620]

“Why Spiderman 4 could never work” Me cries: “no... please... don’t say that”

[@cosmofilms4990]

We already have Spiderman 4 it's called Spiderman The Rent Pursuit

[@omarnaytroo2864]

Cosmo Films is there a spider man 4 ?

[@roman9013]

"Pizza time"

[@dvssbfthswrgvsfvadgqrqgr4237]

@@cosmofilms4990 oh ok

[@dvssbfthswrgvsfvadgqrqgr4237]

@July Rijoberroa you can press names

[@roloboog]

I once had a dream where Spider-Man 4 was released, and I was going to see it in theaters. Then I woke up. *cries*

[@maxthedoge6927]

les cri 😭

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

“Spider-Man 4 - Why it could NEVER work” Doctor Strange: Into The Multiverse of Madness: I missed the part where that’s my problem.

[@Anarchnid]

And also Morbius.

[@hansmichaelfanunal2545]

BSJ IN YO HOUSE how is dr strange 2 related to this?

[@iandavis4213]

Hans Michael Fanunal going off the name alone, he’s going to travel the multiverse, that and Sam Raimi is directing it so.............🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@Anarchnid]

Sam Raimi might be directing it.

[@hansmichaelfanunal2545]

Ian Davis so are you saying they are going to make Spider-Man 4 now?

[@Alcatraz-pf2te]

‘You serious?’ - J. Jonah Jameson

[@vanguard7551]

What do I pay you for standing there?

[@SpiderMan-ek4sg]

"Hey JJ could you pay me in advance ?"

[@KristubeYT]

*WHEEZE* *LAUGH*

[@j-zhirngaming9550]

Would spiderman 4 live up to the original spiderman trilogy literally next scene OH BOY YEAH

[@viciousbane569]

Creative Gaming yeah I saw that

[@mr.person4050]

I was gonna write that comment.

[@rasel5781]

No way man.

[@yaboyaang5639]

Channel Pup: “Why Spider-Man 4 could never work” Me: “The real crime would be not to finish what we started”

[@darkknightofgames4884]

I think if they just gave Tobey Maguire's Spidey a cameo in Doctor Strange: into the multiverse of madness, it would confirm that there is a spider verse in the MCU. Also it would let fans of the Raimi trilogy know how Pete ended up after Spiderman 3.

[@WonderlandWeb]

Dark knight of games Good!

[@knightghost1782]

Yeah we deserve some sort of closure for Tobey's Spider-man.

[@blueaero3284]

That might lead into a live action Spider-Verse they’ve been thinking of doing

[@BowieIsAfraid]

ShadowGamer AX How does Phase 4 correlate to politics being shoved in them. Unless you count studio interference but there hasn’t been any. Or at least that we know of.

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@BowieIsAfraid I mean why do they need a female director for Captain Marvel just find a good one who cares about a stick or a hole

[@ItsCobraJay]

It's because the rain drops kept falling on his head..

[@CucumberKane]

And just like the guy who's feet are to big for his bed

[@legend2745]

Nothing seems to fit, those, rain drops keep falling on my head they keep fallin

[@CucumberKane]

@@legend2745 So I just did me some talking to the sun

[@CucumberKane]

@Kimmy Boy Sleeping on the job Those, Raindrops are falling on my head they keep falling

[@topboy3269]

Ya’ll playin with lyrics😂😂😂😂😂

[@elpepdud2466]

*On the set of Doctor Strange 2 when Kevin Feige sees Tobey Maguire* Kevin: Shut it off, Raimi! Shut it off! I'm in charge here! It's my money! Raimi: You can't stop it... it's self - sustaining now

[@Yael_ch19]

Kevin: I’m in charge here! It’s my money!

[@spicyboi3464]

They should've just make a spinoff for Mr.Aziz

[@Electro21964]

Everyone would flip out, though.

[@gingercat5996]

And Mr Ditkovitch, it could've been a trilogy: Mr Ditkovitch: Landlord forever Mr Ditkovitch 2: Rise of the rent Mr Ditkovitch 3: Revenge of the damn door

[@RbkARI]

And one for Mr. Ditkovich

[@masterkenobi2119]

GOoooo

[@steventylerrocks8382]

How about a spinoff dealing with the lives of the supporting cast of the Raimi trilogy. It could be from their perspectives, and we could see how Spider-Man's presence affects their lives. There was a comic book called "Spider-Man's Tangled Web, which had a similar premise, and made Spider-Man a minor character.

[@DJWingoYT]

i feel like spider-man 3 was a good ending because harry realized that they're friends and their friendship will never stop so he sacrificed himself so he doesn't be like his father , peter stopped his hate and forgave sandman, mj and peter get their happy ending

[@jamesrichards2720]

Harry died.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

@@jamesrichards2720 as a hero...not like his father.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

I agree.

[@DJWingoYT]

@@jamesrichards2720 ik

[@JohnSmith-jh6ey]

A happy ending would have been seeing their wedding

[@awaissasghar2295]

I mean, if you let Sam Raimi do what he wants it would work.

[@oog2370]

If Venom wasn't in 3 Raimi could have made another great film. Venom is most peoples fav spiderman villain (mine too) but if it means not having Venom and having more Raimi films I know what I'm taking

[@aidanlim8047]

@@oog2370 raimi was forced to add venom in the movie coz of sony, raimi didnt like venom in the first place so ahahaha

[@oog2370]

@@aidanlim8047 I know. Whats your point?

[@KristubeYT]

@@oog2370 shouldve have been on like spiderman 6 so we can have venom and carnage

[@Paul_atreides623]

@@aidanlim8047 he had no interest and knowledge about him

[@metal2875]

Bruce Campbell as Mysterio would be a hit.

[@JohnDoe-tm9wz]

Spiderman 4: AVENGE ME!!!

[@JohnDoe-tm9wz]

@Alejandro Feo Cecin *Glass shatters GOBLIN ARMOR...ON*

[@ThatMouthyMerc]

Do do do do do(green goblin theme)

[@thepermanentshockedface9177]

Give tobey a cameo in Dr strange, see how's fans react and let's move forward from there.

[@jorrox9311]

No tobey Maguire spiderman should be in the movie no a cameo

[@humanman9920]

Boy do i got some news for you

[@humanman9920]

But it's pretty old at this point so what am i even saying it's not news

[@oopartsw911]

I’ve had an idea for Spider-Man 4: It’s been 3-4 years. A montage showing Spider-Man saving people and fighting criminals are mingled with Peter and MJ marrying and moving into a place together. Peter struggles to be a good husband but after the death of Aunt May, he loses himself in Spider-Man, trying to get the pain to go numb, therefore neglecting MJ. WhenPeter gets everything he wants, he can’t be happy because of a major loss. Peter must face what it is a man must do and become in order to be the man his wife needs him to be. After defeating his villain which would somehow tie into the story, it ends with MJ announcing she’s pregnant. Spider-Man 5: Peter starts to learn to be a father as MJ tires of not pursuing her career. She gets to finally complete her dream, leaving Peter alone with their baby. Several wacky incidents occur with him trying to be Spider-Man while babysitting before he’s taken by the villain of the story. MJ is also stolen from him and in a confrontation with the villain, MJ sacrifices herself to let Peter save their child. Spider-Man 6: Basically, God of War 4 mixed with the end of Logan.

[@Shevtress]

TheGamingHispanic21 We don’t talk about that comic.

[@humanman9920]

Ok let's keep it to 4 doesn't sound too bad .

[@tobeymmemes4111]

“No. Please don’t say that.”

[@yeetboi0069]

channel pup: “Spider-Man 4 could never work” everyone: “no please, please don’t say that“

[@Walkingdeadfan240]

Me: Remember Spider-man 4? The film you tried to ruin just like the 3rd one? Sony: What does it matter to you anyway? Me: EVERYTHING!!

[@daplayer1098]

Nahhh for me the 3rd one was a good one... Not the best offcourse but still.

[@redwaldcuthberting7195]

@@daplayer1098 3rd as in third noth thirth.

[@arjunmamidala1138]

daplayer10 yea same I still liked it

[@StanIsSwag]

Edbound ayyy

[@borisjohnson5744]

The 3rd one wasn't ruined. It was a masterpiece.

[@acecashman1237]

14:54 well, Doctor Strange also existed in the Raimiverse, Jameson made a reference to him when deciding someone's (don't remember) name, then said Doctor Strange but quickly noted that it was already taken

[@Yael_ch19]

He was deciding what to name Octavius, one of them being doctor strange and then ending up with Doctor Octopus

[@IronAvenger2k05]

Unpopular opinion: Spider-Man 3 is better than 1

[@maddenboseroy4074]

I think something we forget - and I've only heard it - is that Raimi was pushed by Sony to include Venom in Spider-Man 3 (if only because it made sense, given that Spider Man's other two arch-foes already appeared).

[@Jeezet]

"Spider-Man 3 was a dead end." Me: "Okay just wallcrawl."

[@giorgimamalashvili4220]

Actually there IS Spider-man 4... The Rent Saga by Spidercide.

[@gob18]

Wheres my money!

[@antoninoverder6435]

I watched that series.that was so good

[@WildYT]

Honestly they need to make an animated continuation show of the raimi trilogy taking place a year or two after spidey 3

[@jumpman2346]

fr

[@CcatVideogames]

Thats actually a great idea

[@astropictures4396]

NWH SPOILERS Peter did say that he and Mary Jane made it work so...

[@bioresidentskg5025]

**Spider-Man 4 could never work.** **High Mountain Studios:** You wanna say that again mate?

[@ChannelPup]

Those guys are maniacs taking on such a task but I admire the heck out of them for it and I’m always game for a little fan film movie magic.

[@RealFanOfSteel]

@@ChannelPup if you've seen the fan film Mario Warfare, it'll be most likely be along those lines or something more. (In a production sense)

[@Wooshey_Wooj]

7:42 completely agree with that statement. Even seeing this as a kid in theaters. I noticed that. nobody ever brings that up. I even remember asking my sister why she wasn’t smiling but she looks like she made a mistake or something. Such an odd direction at the time, but now it does make sense.

[@sleepy9102]

Dude this analysis was phenomenal. You definitely need to make more movie analysis these were so well thought out and pushed my appreciation for these movies even further.

[@lennykiss-digitalartist2597]

I’d love to see what this version of Spider-Man is doing now. If he is happy or unhappy. Also it would be interesting if he is married or has kids or whatever. I wanna see him today.

[@gamemediafan1714]

I'm about 90% sure that one of the scripts made for Spiderman 4 ended up being reworked into TASM 1. The proof comes from the fact that James Vanderbilt, who is credited as one of the screenwriters and as the person behind the story, wrote a script for Spiderman 4, which was one of the many different scripts written by different writers. I think that when TASM 1 was made, Sony decided to just take one of the many scirpt written for Spiferman 4 and have it rewritten into a new Spiderman reboot.

[@Smee319]

Great video but I wanted to respond to a point you made earlier in the video. Spider-man 4 WAS intended to be a finale to the Raimi films. In the Amazing Spider-man blu ray documentaries, screenwriter James Vanderbilt said that he was tasked with making Spider-man 4 a finale to the series. Also, in interviews since its cancellation, Sam Raimi has said he was only doing SM4 to try to end his run on a stronger note. As for 5 & 6, there was a blurb in the original reports in 2009 that these could also act as a reboot to the franchise, and Raimi said that the reboot was being developed simultaneously with Spider-man 4 as a back up. Vanderbilt's draft of Spidey 4 was so big the rumor became that it would be used for 4 and 5 which would shoot back to back. As other writers came on board it became a one-movie focus. When "5 & 6" were announced with Vanderbilt writing, it was revealed that Raimi hadn't liked all of Vanderbilt's ideas, but Sony did.

[@cornhq]

I enjoy the raimi movies when I rewatch them, but they are definitely a product of their time. They are extremely cheesy but in a good way.

[@kevinhernandez09515]

I think that the Sam Raimi Trilogy is the best case scenario. And yes seeing more movies of him would either grow into a pain to see or see the 2nd redemption of Peter Parker/Spider-Man. Let's say this. After the events of the third film with it's sad conclusion of Harry dying for his best friend as well as the downfall of Peter and MJ's relationship, now Peter has to learn to be a better friend or person towards the people he wants to continue on with, that being MJ and Aunt May. Of course he has to move one but also appreciate the small moments that he has with MJ and actually listen to her and treat her like a person. I think that after using Gwen Stacy we could let her live and just let her not wanting to do anything with Peter for a while (if ever). But having Felicia Hardy being like his rebound only for him to be treated like he did with MJ. Felicia only falling for the idea of being with Spidey and not Parker, could be the medicine he needed to see or acknowledge that he was treating MJ as a goal or object, rather than person herself, and Mysterio (rather than the vulture) could perfectly take advantage of this knowledge through Felicia. With maybe the final shot being MJ and Peter sharing time together with just a bit of hope of them working things out (but that would also mean maybe less quirky lines from when these two are together as that was the dream, and now they're both in reality) Sort of remanencing some key points of Spider-Man 2 . But that's just my ideal

[@sondxrrr]

I remember when everyone thought carnage was gonna be in the movie

[@brucewayne8252]

At first I thoght MJ and Peter's personalities were different and that they were just in an emotionally immature fluffy relationship . Byt actually MJ loves Peter because he understands her and he likes her personality , unlike Flash , Harry , and John Jameson who only liked her for her looks and wanted to impress her . She always wanted someone to give her real love that her family couldn't give her . Plus , the trilogy really shows you the toxic instability of pre-marriage relationships , it's not just MJ .

[@gustavogoikoetxea4524]

The third movie wasn’t even that bad

[@WanderingLoner1]

"Not that bad"?? Bro, I liked that movie.

[@Stormtrooper-li1je]

Agreed

[@anthonygarcia8749]

Love the movie to this day

[@trevorphilips9065]

Now dig on this

[@wayne909]

Not as good as the first two but still a really good film in its own right. It's a bummer people dog on it so much

[@uncanalcualquieraknuckles1853]

That's why it got cancelled, Raimi wanted it to be BETTER than SPIDERMAN 2 but he couldn't

[@Rosay_Fitness]

Un canal cualquiera & knuckles he couldn’t due to the studio wanting to jam in venom ,so it gave him stress,he didn’t want venom so he as much as he wanted to love and care for the project,his love for it was yanked by the studio Sadly,I believe if he did what he really wanted to do he would have made it happen

[@anthonygarcia8749]

This is why I love Sam Raimi. One of the many reasons is because rather than just making spider-man 4 just to do it and make a sequel. He decided to step away from it when he couldn't get the script together and come up with the right story. He didn't rush the movie to try to top himself so to speak. So as much as it pains me to say I'm glad we didn't get Spider-Man 4 if he didn't have the right story to tell with these characters.

[@suarezguy]

One of the very few filmmakers to walk away from a big hit and payday, to care more about whether the story would be good, worthwhile.

[@moviehermit5631]

I feel like the development of Peter an M.J. was definitely thematically well developed. While it may have strayed from their usual comic relationship, the struggles of a relationship are every well done (and are even brought back in _Into the Spider-verse)._ Everyone wants the perfect relationship where we meet someone we like, feelings develop, and an easy happily ever after is followed. But the truth is that not all relationships are meant to walk off into the sunset. And that's a truth not often delved into with stories about relationships. Just look at Ross and Rachel from _Friends,_ Ross pined after Rachel throughout high school and Rachel never really noticed him at all. They eventually get into a relationship (with a rocky start) and it goes well. Until reality sets in and problems show up that bring to light their toxic nature. Ross is so protective of Rachel after having been the guy across the room for years that whenever she has independence or there's a handsome charismatic guy talking to her, he feels threatened that he will lose what he deems as "his". Which leads to the break, the drunk one-night-stand and the nuclear fallout of their relationship. And after they've each come to terms with the relationship, the toxic nature re-emerges. Whenever Ross begins to move on in a new relationship before Rachel, she suddenly feels the same love she once had for Ross once again. And then she attempts to sabotage that relationship, only for them to not feel any of that love for each other again. And then there's Ross who won't admit to his mistake, claiming the "we were on a break" argument as something that exonerates him of being so clingy to Rachel that when she had a life that didn't revolve around him, he proceeded to get drunk and have a one-night-stand with who amounted to a complete stranger. Yet somehow, in the end, they have a daughter and get back together in the end. While this shows that they each grew as individuals, it also presents the fantasy of a couple who endures any hardship because they will always love each other. And like Channel Pup said, Peter was only in love with the _idea_ of M.J., which is sadly, often what happens with relationships that start with a weak foundation. Peter may have encouraged her to pursue her acting career, but he didn't do much beyond that. Then suddenly he's ready to marry her even though they haven't even moved in together. He wanted that fantasy he's had since he was a kid to come true without even thinking about M.J.'s side of things. Their relationship being put on hold would actually be in line with the themes of Spider-man. Sometimes, the hero doesn't get the girl because the girl isn't someone to _get,_ and that allows for the hero to reflect and learn, and they might either get back together with their partner, or simply move on

[@austinjohnsen4430]

I think this is spot on. Even Nostalgic Critic who in the past has reminded everyone of how hokey and cheesy these movies are mentioned in his Spider Man 3 review how Peter and MJ’s relationship struggles were something the movies were hinting at based on how immature they are and MJ’s look of concern and dread at the end of 2.

[@Coolyes379]

Spider man 3 was like a big finale peter meets his true uncles killer then harry dies. Spider man 4 would be dumb

[@leonardogutierrezgonzalez7018]

Also tobey is in no shape to continue, TASM 3 could be good tho

[@thehomie492]

Naah could be cool Sam Raimi knows Spider-Man too well to fck it up

[@humanman9920]

No it wouldn't , Raimi the goat made these great movies and if he thinks he can do another one then he can do another one simple as that .

[@efrainjunior2409]

2008-2010: Spider-Man 4 was supposed to released on May 6, 2011, but Sony cancelled it on January 11, 2010. 2020: Sam Raimi has officially directing Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Being honest, i'm happy for not having this film, i mean, the three seal the Peter, Harry and MJ film arc.

[@logannottheonefrommarvel9917]

Andres Anguiano Zuñiga it would've been the Batman and Robin equivalent to Spider-Man movies

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

@@logannottheonefrommarvel9917 i don't think so...to the Batman films, Robin could exist in the arc...the problem of Batman and Robin is not why, is how is made.

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@andresanguianozuniga6798 I'm glad too it ended great not perfect but great.

[@jumpman2346]

@@andresanguianozuniga6798 I wanted to see rhino thoooo

[@zlch4021]

Aw, they should have just done a Mr Ditkovitch solo film. That would be a MOVIE

[@dericjames2018]

Spider-Man 4 would have been successful and it was supposed to come out 4 years after Spider-Man 3.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

All what you say have no sense.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

@Srikanth Ramprasad yep.

[@Skittles1987]

I remember being excited for Spider-Man 4 back then when I was little and then I searched up Spider-Man 4 on KZbin and remember seeing Spider-Man 4 cancelled videos

[@Shevtress]

Deric James Can’t just assume it would have been successful.

[@humanman9920]

​@@ShevtressYes he can , cuz the other ones were and Sam was directing this one too , he left because it wasn't working when the shooting was about to start , so it never came out to be unsuccessful .

[@FullArcher05]

I was always under the impression that Peter and Mary Jane never made up after the movie since it seemed like their relationship couldn't work out the way they wanted it to. There's no exchange of dialogue between them that approaches an "I still love you.". They would've likely made up but parted ways.

[@kylerezzarday9280]

Tobey McGuire is 5'8'' so I'm not sure how he would have looked tall in the MCU???

[@johnnyvargas1301]

Kyle Rezzarday who cares he can be a adult Spider-Man

[@Luna-bj3hb]

Tom 5.7 tobey 5.9 Andrew 5.11

[@Luna-bj3hb]

@Joey Style yea he’s 5.9 he’s alright Spider-Man height

[@Luna-bj3hb]

You don’t reply Kyle your gay

[@kylerezzarday9280]

@@Luna-bj3hb *you’re

[@reversalmushroom]

I actually think a reconciliation between Peter and MJ would be quite easy because it was never really them doing what they did in the 1st place; Peter was corrupted by the symbiote, and MJ was blackmailed into leaving him, so I imagine they just have 1 conversation revealing both these things, and everything goes back to being hunky-dory.

[@ivansedigo7301]

Meanwhile in MCU universe... Tobey Peter Parker: Well... I won't give up. It took a while, but... we made it work.

[@steventylerrocks8382]

I don't know what to think. If Spider-Man 3 was a better movie, I don't think I would've demanded more, but I hate that the series ended on a whimper. It doesn't help that the last piece of media to come out of the Raimi universe was Spider-Man: Friend or Foe.

[@AidanHill639]

Friend or foe isn’t canon you know

[@j.moon98]

I never realized how Peter, as you put it, was "head in the clouds" about being with MJ until I saw this video. Nice analysis.

[@applepie1272]

It could never work at this time But if Sony didn't cancel it, it could've been a revival to the franchise

[@humanman9920]

No it's good Sony cancelled it . Raimi was not feeling any scripts when the shooting was about to start so he walked out . But it could definitely work if given the proper time , now Raimi wants to do it , some actors including Tobey are interested too , they should make #RaimiSpiderman4 . Let Raimi the goat handle it and he'll do it justice

[@RisingBeast00]

Spiderman 3 felt very conclusive.

[@tonymata8070]

I'm quite content with the trilogy, sure it stinks that we didn't get a 4th entry but I wouldn't want it to go like other films and shows that over do it. And honestly I've been enjoying the current iteration of Spidey and I can't wait for the third film.

[@GameApologist]

Very insightful look at the relationship between these two, my dude. Well said.

[@candicoated2001]

That's a nice opinion, did your husband make it for you?

[@Sergio-wm5du]

*Sees title* Me: “Am I not supposed to have what I want”

[@morgancarter5788]

What I need. What am I supposed to do?

[@Mr.marvelous06]

At the ending of SpiderMan 3,Mj said,"If there's something important,say it", and Peter said ,"Nothing". Actually there WAS. MR. DITKOVICH WAITING FOR HIS RENT SINCE SPIDERMAN 2. Will he get his rent in the fourth?

[@CineScarborough]

Personally I think three films works well anyway, because it follows the classical Hollywood three act structure. Hell, I'd be happy if we only got three Tom Holland Spider-Man films.

[@RonaldRayGunn]

I would totally watch a Spider-Man 4

[@pandafluffynut]

So quick question, what happened at Sony during Spider-Man 3? Like the first 2 movies were exactly the film Sam Rami wanted to make, why was it when Spider-Man 3 was being made they got all controlly?

[@wayne909]

It's a common thing in hollywood, the more successful something is, the less control you have

[@VarjoPira]

Sony realized they had a gold mine in their hands, and wanted to sell more Venom toys. Creative interference. You think your director is so good he can handle all these prerequisites without ruining what made him great in the first place. No director is that good.

[@Mattucker67]

I was assuming if there was a Spider-Man 4, It would have ended spinning off into a new series of movies about Peter's daughter taking on the Spidey mantle.

[@brosephin]

carnage could've been introduced in spider-man 4 because dr. Connors never got rid of the black symbiote he had and could've experimented on it, creating carnage.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Yeah...but it really could hard to defeat Carnage without Venom.

[@brosephin]

@@andresanguianozuniga6798 yeah but sandman would've helped spidey

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

@@brosephin again the fans whould attack...they don't care about Sandman :(

[@brosephin]

@@andresanguianozuniga6798 sandman was my favorite character other than Peter in the trilogy tho :(

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

@@brosephin for me, one of the best of the 3.

[@johnc2440]

“That’s slander”

[@TheBigRedMario]

(Me seeing the comments filled with Raimi quotes) “I love democracy.”

[@75JUNAKI]

TheBigRedMario I love that you used a PT meme a Palpatine meme

[@DFGHulkOfficial]

I just wanted to see Jim Carry play Carnage

[@wayne909]

Maybe that would work for most but not for people like me that don't care for either of them lol

[@untipoquenadieconoce]

Remember that dr. Connors had part of the symbiote? That probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere

[@ethanco453]

I'm sorry but I completely disagree with you.

[@Biotyn]

You should talk about the spiderman 4 fan film Edit: whoops spoke to soon, sorry

[@trchbrr]

IMO even though it was unintentional, MJ and Peter dancing was the perfect ending to the trilogy.

[@humanman9920]

Why would you think it was unintentional 😂

[@trchbrr]

@@humanman9920 Because there were plans to make a next one before it got canned

[@aleksandrasdambrauskas2065]

I wish they would of continued Spider-Man 3 was one of my favorite movies of all times

[@assyriancomedycentral1753]

It can always work.

[@thehomie492]

I agree while thinking how great they would have been even cooler with the action scenes, Cgi stuffs I mean imagine that scene w Peter vs Harry, have you ever seen a fight like that in any Spider-Man films...🤩😮‍💨 soo cool bruu

[@alexjackson4698]

Also im glad that im not the only one that binge watches the fights from the sam raimi trilogy on KZbin lmao

[@acecashman1237]

Yeah Sam Raimi's Spider-Man was prime Spider-Man in terms of built. Would've definitely been odd seeing him doing muscle poses with Thor and looking impressive while doing it lol

[@allysanchez5630]

They wasted a chance to have Dylan Baker’s Connors become the lizard. They just gave that job to Rhys Ifans

[@leonardocouto3109]

Amazing video! Your perspective is very interesting: the idea of why prolonging the end of the movies would cheapen the whole thing. That's something that started happening with other series of movies and shows caused them to lose the esteem they once had. I feel compelled to disagree on the idea of Peter and MJ just not working, though; as much as the world is against them and as much as they are flawed, so isn't that everyone else's reality? The point was that Peter was still daydreaming about the perfect MJ, the girl next door, and he was so caught up on his story reaching a peak he was blinded to her difficulties and couldn't properly console her, but that doesn't mean he couldn't improve; same for her: she was still caught up on her own problems which caused her to lose the opportunity to be happy for her companion, but that doesn't mean she couldn't improve. Moreover, this process isn't unprecedented: the whole trilogy is about their growth, a growth that just couldn't be possible without each other. IMO, Peter Parker and Mary Jane in the Raimi Trilogy isn't just a "could"; it's a "should". It's a symbol of the end goal of their growth, their character arcs are complete and they can move on. That's how I felt in the bittersweet ending of the 3rd movie: things are not good now, but they will work out. They should work out. Because that is how a realistic relationship works: not perfect, but still spectacular.

[@90GIBChETHZ00eee]

No Way, Homie. Peter still has a relationship with MJ but who knows how close...

[@kamil.p5134]

"I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye"

[@isinganddootherthings4616]

Cover The Amazing Spider-Man 3 plot details it's crazy

[@Heywoodjablome1964]

Malkovich as vulture would’ve been so badass

[@dansoloskywalkerproduction4329]

"Why Spider-Man for could never work" Me: it's outrageous it's unfair!

[@75JUNAKI]

Cyber Vader An Anakin quote/meme....... I love democracy

[@redwaldcuthberting7195]

Ms. Brant, get me a violin...

[@cosmic_ramen21]

Spider-Man 1,2,3,4,5,6 works with raimis creative control

[@KeranKeranos]

Am I not supposed to have what I want? What i need?

[@EdoItachiAnbu]

I think after fixing or solving every problem or plot points Peter had in his live in the first 3 movies and going back to Ben's ideals at the end of SM3, Spider man 4 could have been a great send off ending Peter's story with a heroic sacrifice. The ultimate staple that he is the person that Ben hoped he would become. And then in the last scene set up Miles morales or something, so it is still hopefull

[@Hjallapenos]

Been following High Mountain Studios for a while now and I'm glad you mentioned them :)

[@Jose-se9pu]

Kirsten Dusnt recently mentioned how tired she was about getting paid a fraction of what Tobey was getting, she already didnt want to be in Soiderman 3, so for 4, she was collecting a big juicy paycheck, and his character was being written off, with the movie ending with Peter and MJ divorcing, leaving the stage set for some sort of love triangle with Gwen (and we know how that story ends) and Felicia... At the end of the day, as much as I would have loved to see this movie, I think we got the perfect conclusion with Spiderman 3, Sam was running out of ideas, Tobey was getting tired of the character and getting too old to keep playing him, James Franco was out, Kirsten Dunst was on her way out...

[@marcodabatman]

Honestly I just want some sort of closure for Tobey's Spidey, doesn't have to be a full movie, even if it's just like how they did with Brandon Routh in Crisis I'm fine with it.

[@marcodabatman]

​@@tunabricks5442 if it were up to me I'd have Miles but not necessarily kill Peter. Maybe have him be in a mentor role where he's slightly more lax (but still active) with his own Spider-Man stuff and focus more on his own family while training Miles as his partner and eventual replacement

[@mxcokoko]

I would have been shocked if Sam Raini's Spiderman wouldn't have joined the MCU at some point if it kept going.

[@wayne909]

It wouldn't work. Raimi's Spider-Man has far too much heart and depth for the MCU

[@mxcokoko]

@@wayne909 Fair point, maybe he could have brought actual pain to the MCU

[@masonwright7700]

@@wayne909 stfu

[@masonwright7700]

@@mxcokoko stfu

[@mxcokoko]

@@masonwright7700 lmao

[@maldon3659]

What would've been more annoying about Spider-man 4 is there would've had ANOTHER love triangle especially with Black Cat there

[@suarezguy]

Yes, that (and Black Cat possibly being Vulture's daughter) probably would have happened and been aggravating.

[@rayvonvelez3129]

I think it wouldn't work cuz harry is dead. Harry is an important character in the trilogy. His character develops throughout all the films like Peter.

[@memesgeek4797]

Probably besides Aunt May he was the best written character.

[@Masonicon]

That's why Spiderman joins MCU

[@LeoSharaf]

Peter’s arc is sad :( i always wanted closure for his ending. Maybe one day

[@brandawgz]

Great video but Raimi confirmed 4 was supposed to be the last one. He dismissed rumors of a second trilogy.

[@jonathanallen4407]

Ok I got an idea: A spiderman 4 would start off with spiderman being retired and choosing Mary Jane over spiderman, and there happy because it’s shown that Spider-Man is the biggest thing between them. Then you could do a titans thing where peter try’s to let go of spiderman and at first it works. Then aunt may dies and he starts to fall back in. Then problems start up with Mary Jane again slowly though. Mean while the main villain is developing ( this whole story plot works with mystero very well but you can use a different villain). Peter then faces off with the main villain who ends up beating him. This doesn’t sit well with Peter and he ends up focusing only on spiderman which causes him and Mary Jane to split up. We continue and he find out the main villain is the reason of aunt May’s death and Peter goes off the rails. He is just about to kill the villain before mj stops him and he lets the villain go. Peter then tells Mary Jane “you prove time and time again that you bring out the best in me, but I have shown that I bring out the worst in you.” Mj then says “I don’t want to let you go” and Peter then says “sometimes the hardest choices are the best for us” and he swings off leaving us with the same feeling we had at the end of the first film where it shows that he is kinda of his own worst enemy and he is the reason he can’t be happy.

[@honkahonka9975]

This kind of mirrors the reason why I hate Toy Story 4 . ( plus I totally love Spiderman 3 , the only thing bothering me is the whole Harry-amnesia thing . He could’ve pretended to have amnesia and pull the strings from behind the scenes and it would’ve made him more diabolical)

[@FossyPickles]

Tbh most of the memes we have are from the spiderman trilogy

[@alexman378]

Maguire is the exact same height as Holland though...

[@ericebjonesii1378]

Alexander Angelus that’s what I was sayin!!!

[@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051]

Oh well. To be fair, the films were quite repetitive: 1. Peter has relationship issues with MJ 2. Peter fights a villain who he is shown to have ties wit at the start of the film 3. Peter learns an important life lesson Edit: This formula wasn't as noticeable in the previous 2 films, but Spider-Man 3 is where it got stale

[@gingercat5996]

And Mary Jane gets kidnapped

[@codo8584]

Don't forget a villain death at the end where Peter has his mask damaged revealing his face

[@gingercat5996]

And the villain kills himself

[@codo8584]

@@gingercat5996 Well Venom didn't kill himself, Brock did though so I don't know if that counts as only half the villain killed themselves

[@gingercat5996]

@@codo8584 brock was still an antagonist to peter

[@8abyfacej]

My childhood was wit the raimy films