Chappell Roan and the True Cost of Sustainable Clothing

[@Grub_For_Worms]

Absolutely none of these people have been to a concert. 40 dollars for a tour T-shirt is pretty damn normal, if not cheaper. I don't even really listen to Chappell's music since it's not my thing but I think it's really cool she got shirts from a quality brand. This is such a stupid thing to complain about because no one is forcing them to buy a 40 dollar shirt.

[@FiveFoxesInATrenchcoat]

Yeah, that’s on the cheaper end. I went to a concert in September and spent $180 on two shirts.

[@Mewpasaurus]

Yeah, I was about to say: I've been to several concerts in the last couple of years (for different groups/artists of varying popularity) and $35 to $45 is *typical* for a non-ethically sourced shirt (or at least one that doesn't claim to have this level of transparency). That's the *normal* cost. I'm actually shocked that Chappell's shirt is that reasonably priced, lol.

[@Username0467]

I paid $45 in 2016 for a band tee. Everyone chill lol

[@screenPhiles]

You gotta understand that a lot of people have little else to do with their time.

[@jamesoniris2647]

40 dollars is literally the regular price of band shirts-

[@Reverse_Cowgirl-cat]

I remember them being $40 10 yrs ago, so that's pretty good. I've always like buying band shirts at the live show, especially for smaller artists because I know I'm contributing to them in a more direct way.

[@katerrinah5442]

Yeah here in Australia $60/$70 AUD is the standard for band tees that aren't sustainable. And that's roughly $40 USD.

[@putridabomination]

No it isn't lmao I buy band shirts all the time, at most you're looking at $20 for a regular T-shirt. Long sleeves and hoodies definitely cost more though.

[@roxassora2706]

​@@putridabominationMine were $20 back when I was emo.

[@MickMod]

I usually pay like $20-30 for shirts, but I go to punk/hardcore shows so they probably have a different view on profit margins.

[@BunchaNothin]

$40 for a sustainable shirt is so cheap I would presume it isn't sustainable. Not to say it isn't, but $40 is not a lot.

[@dyskelia]

Sadly, for some people (like me) , $40 is a lot right now but that’s how much the average shirt costs at a show now so going after her for that is unreasonable.

[@Xoulrath_]

Must be nice to have so much money to think that a basic cotton shirt that costs $40 isn't expensive...

[@IsaVarg]

@@Xoulrath_ It's not that $40 isn't a lot for a person to spend on a shirt or a lot of money in general, but that it's a low price for something that's sustainable.

[@Xoulrath_]

@IsaVarg it isn't a low price. At all.

[@acetylenevirgil]

​@Xoulrath_ no one is saying it's a low price, they're saying if you compare it to other brands with comparable standards of practice, it will be on the low end. you can't buy a car with pocket change, either but there are "cheap" cars and luxury cars.

[@jillparker6553]

"Wrestling is drag for cis men" so fucking accurate 🤣🤣🤣

[@cspeak2me]

Playing strong takes work hello ..

[@daliam8715]

Weird comment considering drag queens are usually cis men

[@flazada]

I'm so glad this isn't a Chappell hate video. Poor girl gets enough crap

[@AlexHider]

The second sustainable fashion discourse has hit the towers. Literally just yesterday I read a story about a size inclusive sustainable brand having to close after a decade and the comments were filled with the worst people alive complaining that they couldn’t compete with SHEIN and no one did hauls with their clothes. Bruh. Everyone who ever complained about the cost of ethically and sustainably produced clothes should be made to sew t shirts for a day.

[@futuristic.handgun]

What brand was it?

[@AlexHider]

@futuristic.handgun dolls….something. Rodolls? Rubdolls?

[@coolchameleon21]

there are no words in the english language that can accurately convey how much i despise shein

[@ZZ-qy5mv]

I see people in my neighborhood literally pissed that clothes aren't free. They expect to return Cat and Jack brand kids clothes after using them for a almost year because they used to have a generous and vague return policy. Basically they want clothes for free and are pissed at Target and the brand when they don't get their way. Cat and Jack is already very high quality for the low cost.

[@dismurrart6648]

I got exhausted with fashion and left because everyone wants couture for shein prices

[@criticaloptimist]

Also, concert tshirts have been like fifty bucks for the last 20 years, so I don’t get the surprise. Also, fans can go buy knock off merch if they want it. I’ve actively not done that because I don’t want that money to not go to chappelle. I swear this stuff just pops up because he algorithms pick her up a lot. People just don’t get the cost of things. I love this video so much. I used to work in housewares, and the trade shows taught me so much about how wasteful our consumption is. There is no end to the crap. I will go out of my way to buy used but high quality housewares before I buy something new, and if I buy new it’s the nicest option and I am investing in having that thing for years. I also slowly acquire high quality used items from garage sales. People don’t get how the problem is that we aren’t paid enough to afford a reasonably priced tshirts. We have cheapened labor so much, it’s like we expect it to be free. I saw a review of a power tool in an old woodworking magazine from the 80’s, and the cheapest drill was like 69 bucks. You can buy a new ryobi drill for half that! It’s like he elite know that we won’t riot about our low wages as long as we can still afford stuff. So the crap has to get cheaper and cheaper.

[@ChiefSlacc]

Saw The Cure last year and my (amazing) quality shirt was $25. But Cure was on that shit this past tour.

[@dyskelia]

Agreed. It was NOT like this before covid. Shirts at shows were like $15-$25 in 2019. Now, $40 is on the cheap end.

[@criticaloptimist]

@@ChiefSlacc I promise a 25 dollar tshirt is either not paying for fair labor or they don’t intend to make any money off it. Because musicians these days make their money on concerts more than selling albums because of Spotify and iTunes. I’m not going to begrudge chappelle roan for charging an amount that makes her at least some money. It costs money to bring merch and sell it at shows, and it costs money to pay for a company to run her e-commerce store.

[@mooncalf191]

Concert Ts have always been priced high. There seems to be an entire industry of harassing Chappell Roan. Just making her more famous. I probably wouldn't have heard of her if it weren't for all these lame "controversies." She seems cool. Thanks for the info, I learned some stuff. Who knew textiles could be equal parts interesting and aggravating? Love the video.

[@BunchaNothin]

But is $40 expensive for merch? I'm confused by this whole situation. Is clothing really so cheap in the US that $40 is a lot? Seems really really low to me, especially for something that isn't cheap fast-fashion.

[@mooncalf191]

@@BunchaNothin Depends. Walmart where I live has band T-shirts for $7. They are of low quality, but I think many don't notice because the $50 band shirts at the local mall are of equally low quality. As far as I can tell, price has lost all relation to value in America, the prices are arbitrarily set. I personally wouldn't buy a $40 shirt. I'm not destitute, but I'm far enough from wealthy that I need to be thrifty, so I go to bag day at the thrift shop and get a dozen shirts for two bucks. Often they are higher quality clothes, which is nice. Times is hard, and my kids grow through clothes so fast.

[@mooncalf191]

@@BunchaNothin I think it's a fair price, all things considered, but I still wouldn't pay that much for a shirt.

[@yeeyeeyeeye]

Same here, I only know her because of people complaining about her. I think it might also be targeted because I don't see the same complaints being sent to other artists, just her.

[@keybyss98]

Given her stance on Palestine and her “fuck both parties” attitude, I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case tbh.

[@sirathena]

I love how powerfully confronting Chappell Roan is to people on everything from t-shirts to not-stalking!

[@RubyWalker-j1n]

literally non-issues if you are normal lmao

[@partlydave2]

I visited a tiny town in Scotland called Hawick (pronounced Hoyk) that is know for their woolen mills. I took a tour of one of the mills and they had rows and rows of people on various machines sewing and producing wool and cashmere pieces. There was a woman piecing Chanel sweaters for next season next to a woman piecing socks for a white label. It was interesting seeing these products being produced by the same labor in the same building, and it further disillusioned me toward high fashion prices lol.

[@nataschavisser573]

I had a conversation with a productron manager at a clothing factory years ago on this topic. They sold often sold the same garments to a high end and a low end store, the "high end" garments just got slightly nicer buttons.

[@TheAbigailDee]

This was one of the goofiest controversies for a star who has consistently goofy controversies!!!

[@lordknightalex]

one thing i cant recommend enough is sprucing up your basics! i have a simple jean vest that i studded and embroidered, there are old jeans i'm going to patch together into something more interesting, there's a shirt i got bored of and am turning into a half-skirt if you can't sew, ask friends for help, make a day out of it and DIY things together. the more ways you find to keep wearing a piece, the less you'll feel the need to buy new ones like, if turning that old h&m tee into a crop top will make you wear it again then do it! maybe it'll help you not be nearly as tempted to buy essentially the same thing on temu

[@stinky-smelly]

I personally love getting button-ups from the thrift shop then cropping those!! They look so cute and the quality is always great. That and tearing the fuck out of thrift store jeans. I get the most compliments out of everything I wear on a pair of $3 thrift store jeans I used for work pants, then turned into massively ripped jorts when they got a hole near the crotch. I just took a knife to em without any plan.

[@madeofrainbows]

Tour merch STARTING at $40 is a fucking steal! I go into almost every concert experience girding my loins knowing that I'm gonna blow $100 if I want a shirt and a half, and have been for like a decade. But those shirts LAST. If she was able to source sustainable, quality clothing at a very affordable concert setting cost then wtf are these babies crying about? I would go as far to posit that an aspect of tour merch is more expensive than $20 a tshirt for whatever band in store or online is because the prints are limited run, which is part of the incentive to go to said concert.

[@sendmoreparamedics0]

I think people got used to Temo and all that junk

[@tcaprecap1448]

I feel a burning hate for TEMU...they're doing a speedrun on destroying the environment

[@clauacl]

It feels like these conversations, at least online, never stem from the real problem of how unattainable quality basics are now, instead it's "why is the trendy thing so expensive". Last time I saw this convo pop up, it was about punk/goth clothing not being dirt cheap, which is hilarious since both styles were born from DIY and a lot of it comes down to styling. I also wish some people would just walk into a fabric store and see how expensive quality fabrics can get, and I'm not talking about fashion fabrics, just basic cottons or natural fibers.

[@keybyss98]

Tbh I think I actually respect Ms. Roan even MORE now. For her to go outta her way to put out high-quality, ethically-made products instead of just throwing out shitty shit (on top of everything else about her) is honestly pretty significant in my book, a lot more integrity than I’ve seen from most celebrities in the past decade. Her music isn’t even all my thing (though HOT2GO is still a bop), and I haven’t always agreed with her 100%, but her attitude and actions here is honestly super cool in my book. Bravo to Chappell! 👏 She deserves way better.

[@coryingman]

I'm a collector of old tools, and run a you-name-it repairs service. I can tell you with no uncertainty that there are very VERY few examples of American products which are made better today than they were in the 1960s. And no, I'm not some nostalgic geezer, I'm a millennial. If you want a good hammer made here, get an Estwing. Even a good old hammer isn't as good as a new Estwing for the money. They still make leather handles, but they're ~$35 now. Case in point.

[@chokinonashes61]

Absolutely. I always buy s/h good quality. Clothes too, always use charity shops though I know it's cool in the UK, getting more expensive. We have car boot sales that are now probably the best and cheapest way to get well made old stuff. From tools to houseware, furniture and clothes.

[@glove_flavored]

This is really interesting! I also thought the shirts were going to be like $80 lmao $40?? I'm pretty sure the Hozier concert tshirts were like $50-$60 and they were just pictures of him, not bespoke designs (not complaining about that either)

[@majbrittkjaer6134]

We paid 35Euro for Hozier T-shirts in July, and some of them were really nice and specific to the tour. The hoodies were 60 to 90 €, so we passed on those 😊

[@totallyzooter]

Your channel is super underrated. As a black guy i cant seem to find a white leftist creator who doesnt fuck up or be friends with racists or do brand deals with better help or something. Your videos are well researched and well spoken whilst also having a charm to them i dont see otherwise.

[@Nicole-zh7pl]

I've never paid less than 40 dollars for any tour shirt since I was a teenager. Lol

[@katerrinah5442]

Thank you for pointing out that with all fashion there is a cost - and if you're not paying it someone else is. I hate the line "poor people deserve to have nice things" in defence of fast fashion because what it really means is "western poor people deserve to have nice things". Do the poor, exploited workers not deserve nice things too? We need clothing to cover our bodies yes. But a pink Pony club t shirt isn't a basic human right. It's nice to have but you don't get to demand one in exchange for someone else's wellbeing. I make my own clothes and the amount of disconnect people have with how much time and effort goes into making clothes is wild. Garment workers deserve to be paid a living wage and be treated well because damn they are 10x more skilled than I am

[@toothycookie]

REAL. Once dated a nonbinary performer that insisted upon their blind consumption of fast fashion because 'fat people need clothes too'. Justifying or explaining away a habit or addiction you feel shame about is not the answer and honestly this weirdly moralist grandstanding I keep seeing purported or wannabe 'leftists' doing is actually so frustrating. Having 3 closets worth of clothing is never something anyone deserves next to the families being labor exploited by the sweatshop POD hellscape overseas. Like a few items sure, but like. Lmao cmon. If you die of shame on the hill of defending exploitative labor while complaining about your own deadend job in America, well...not a great choice tbh!

[@thisisnotausernameXD]

I am from the part of the world where workers are exploited for clothing and the Western sentiment baffles me. So few push back against that specific argument too. Everyone deserves to be adequately clothed but 'deserve nice things' sounds so entitled.

[@TheBleanaru]

It's not even nice things if it doesn't last long..... Nice things last long.... If it doesn't last a year, it's not a nice thing.... I have several articles of clothing that I've had for over ten years. I quite literally have a tank top that still fits me, and the print is clearly visible, from when I was 11 and I am 26. I have specifically stopped buying from Walmart because of the way their clothes do not last. My biological father bought me a pair of sweatpants from Cabela's, going on and on about how great their clothes were.... They got a hole in the seam in two months.... It's not nice things if it doesn't last long.

[@adorabell4253]

@@thisisnotausernameXDI think everyone does deserve nice things. We just don’t deserve houses full of superfluous nice things. As humans we should want everyone to have nice things but nice doesn’t mean luxury. Nice can be something as simple as well made and long lasting while being aesthetically pleasing.

[@someguyontheinternet8793]

They’re not even poor 90% of the time, they’re either teenagers with no bills to pay or wannabe influencers who do shien hauls every week. If they were really poor, they would be right next to me looking for basics and boots in thrift stores, not in H&M looking for the latest trend.

[@klbriceno1]

It's so disheartening to watch all this fast fashion go from one wear to the dumpster.. My cousin has been arguing with me back and forth over the ethics of Temu, he just won't budge and he has the money to buy sustainable. It's like these sites have unlocked the code, we all want something for nothing, basically. lol great video, very interesting.

[@Elphaboy]

$40 is actually cheaper than most concert Ts I’ve seen they usually hover around $50-$75!!!!

[@xg2513]

Given that the minimum wage in most of the USA is 7-10$ an hour, I understand to some degree why people want it cheaper. Americans are exploited for cheap labor so then they can only afford to buy clothes made with *even cheaper more exploitative* labor. I think a lot of the outrage shouldnt be directed at Chappell, its not her fault the economy is in the pits. For most Americans, people cant afford a shirt thats more than $10. For a large amount people, $40 is an entire day of work. People blame consumers but the reality is that most people cannot afford the standard of living we used to have. The bigger picture to me is that people are feeling so pinched by sustainable merch because.... well.... I mean I think cheap sweatshop exploitative labor making everything driving prices down is a bandaid that has masked americas reality. Being able to buy exploitative items has completely masked the reality that americans have become so poor on average that they cant afford anything else. If not for cheaply made merchandise and items overseas, the united states would be in a much larger more obvious depression right now. Because clothing and other items made fairly would be so expensive for the average american now, that it would really highlight just how deep into poverty most of amercians are now.

[@boopyvacaine]

We’re talking about merch here, not food or rent. Nobody needs or is entitled to cheap non-essential goods like merch. If you can’t afford it don’t buy it.

[@RubyWalker-j1n]

While I agree that Americans get exploited, people should unionize and take that shit up with their employer if they want actual change. Somehow I feel like the people complaining about the price of Chappell Roan concert merch are not so destitute that they can't afford essentials. They're already going to a concert, which is a rather expensive leisure activity

[@bevishhh]

@@boopyvacaineyeah except at the end when he was specifically talking about basic tees.

[@nope5657]

The rapid growth of weirdness around Roan needs to be studied. Why her, of all pop stars? Its like because shes openly queer and progressive people NEED her to fit into their tiny little box of what they subjectively view as non-problematic. And they just ended up creating this gross parasocial scoldy relationship with her.

[@ThePotatoad]

Remember in Idiocracy where all the clothes were cheap, shiny polyester? That's where we're headed as a society.

[@Thenewboidahlia]

I keep hearing about this movie and for some reason I haven’t seen it yet, I think I’ll finally watch it today!

[@akshayde]

​@@Thenewboidahlia😂

[@PlasticR0b0t]

Thank you for this! I appreciate not only your insight on sustainable clothing and pricing, but that you took the time to address the very serious issue at the end of the video. I would be happy to hang out with a lonely guy and listen to the new Cure album while we sip tea and look at cat memes. It didn't even occur to me to look for Chappell Roan t-shirts, but now that I know about them, I will. Meanwhile, I'm wearing a path to the mailbox for my Ethel Cain shirt. 🧡

[@Ghastlyteaparty]

I'm poor, and fat and I live in Canada. For most of my life, Walmart and Value Village was the only option. Needless to say, I was not the most fashionable kid in school. Once I got a job as an adult and learned about fast fashion, my rule was do an underwear and sock haul once a year and invest in nice clothes that will last years. So plus size in Canada means you'll buy a shirt that's like $80 CAD but I've filled my wardrobe with stuff I love and only add to it to replace something that doesn't fit, or I can't repair. It's been a slow process, but buying $80-200 pieces once every 2 years just helps me sleep better at night.

[@kerrymingsun2498]

This is genuinely becoming one of my favourites wee channels. I’m always excited to see a notification pop up!

[@NUFAN1313]

If record labels and streaming services actually paid their artists, the artists wouldn't have to rely on merch sales to finance EVERYTHING, including touring, themselves. I glady drop too much money at shows because I want to be able to see the bands I like play live, in the same country I live in.

[@mijavera]

Subbing. What a great break down on sustainable fashion. So glad I found this channel!!!

[@tfldad]

Westinghouse is a great example… just not for dabbling in nuclear energy. They were one of the earliest and largest heavy industry players in electric power generation going back to the late 1800’s. They were in nuclear energy in the ‘30s. They were competitors with Thomas Edison and the original Tesla, Nikola. Which is all to say, that your point stands, just that they got into finance and bought CBS at some point. Actually, even better example

[@arbyswitch5580]

There's something a little heartbreaking about having to clarify that you mean Nikola Tesla when you utter the word Tesla. He was such a fucking pioneer man and now his name has been besmirched by some of the shittiest automobiles I have ever seen

[@alysaurusrex2166]

I got a $40 shirt at chappell’s concert and immediately noticed how much better the quality is than basically every other shirt I own. I started buying regular shirts from the company she uses because of the quality and that they’re ethically sourced. Paid more for a shirt at the Taylor swift concert and it’s so much thinner and already has a hole in it

[@arbyswitch5580]

I was slightly worried that there might be quality issues when Harland mentioned they use "waste cotton" but clearly that turn of phrase does not indicate "cotton of lower quality". Very good to know! I might need to buy a few new shirts soon (I haven't really refreshed my shirts since high school, I'm thirty) so I'm gonna consider this brand.

[@Username0467]

Sooooo what’s the brand? Do share lol

[@farmerbeebop]

love you harland! great video. i’m a fashion nerd AND a planet nerd, so this hit all the marks. your content is always amazing and you have great insight and commentary skills. i also value your opinion and i think you’re incredibly kind and i infinitely appreciate your desire to make this world a better place and make people think. you are ALWAYS thoughtful, and that’s one of the greatest things about your content. thank you for making these videos, im very much looking forward to the next one! don’t work yourself too hard though, make sure you get plenty of rest!

[@rofa6086]

00:41 I was expecting a price of 80$!! Which is a fair price! But 40$ is dirt for a tshirt. Too bad none of us have expendable income anymore.

[@DeidresStuff]

IKR? I paid that much in the early 2000s

[@xanoks1116]

Great vid, glad to find some new channels like yours

[@dyskelia]

Totally agree about Chappell Roan. For example, I like Mk.gee and he’s selling $80 hoodies at his shows and I bought a $45 shirt at a Slowdive show this year. Is that too much? I think so but why attack her specifically when everyone else is doing it too?

[@futuristic.handgun]

Love you too man and thank you for having a safe space! Happy and proud to be in your community! 💓

[@urbroz]

oh shit you work in fashion? that makes sense! know i know why me and esp my bf love your videos so much (he works in the same industry)! your videos always have a nice finish to them despite being filmed in a literal garage and I love the color effects you put on your videos.

[@christtofthewave4273]

Fast fashion has brain washed us to want everything at the most bottom dollar, I do feel like not everything in this world needs to be affordable. It’s simply not sustainable, if something is made ethically, good quality, will last for years, the cost will be worth the time and mindfulness constructed with the garment. I don’t believe that Chappell will have any issues selling this merch for this price anyways. David Gilmour was selling his tour shirts for 50 bucks and there was questionable transparency on the blanks which made it hard to trace its blueprint.

[@avrilkulbida5541]

Wonderful video as always Harland! Thank you sharing level headed and informed thoughts and opinions even as the world around brings instability to al

[@Vanessa-xx3yz]

The more people complain about Chappell, the more I like her.

[@averyeml]

This is another example of this thing where famous people who are considerate or vocally liberal or “relatable” in some way are expected to make every concession and be flawlessly perfect, but the much more distant, less relatable, and/or vocally conservative celebrities aren’t? Nobody’s asking if Imagine Dragons’ or Kid Rock’s concert merch is sustainable, nor are they complaining about the price and expecting anything to happen about it.

[@EdrickBluebeard]

Your messaging at the end- Thank you. I appreciate the thoughtfulness and this channel.

[@oneinakrillion.]

It seems like everyone hates Chappell Roan, for doing nothing bad, every five seconds I hear someone getting mad a them for doing normal things.

[@lestalah2451]

Hell yeah Harley! Love from Australia man keep up the killer content

[@flazada]

I'd rather have a genuine band shirt from the tour than some Amazon bs

[@isabelsoares4942]

love this channel more and more. Very excited about the next video

[@1MyPaige0]

Glad to see your videos always.I feel more educated on what I need to know as I walk this earth and make better choices from just hearing you talk about what every on your mind. Take care too.

[@smurfette_blues7922]

I don't even really like her music but as someone who makes their own clothes and is a lover of slow fashion, I am very interested in purchasing something from her store because i know they will be good quality and i will be supporting the artists behind it. I really wish the things I learned in sewing school was taught to everyone as basic knowledge. The fashion industry is literally the leading industry in harming the environment. And we still haven't done enough to help this because the average person doesn't know anything about how clothes are made. It makes me so mad sometimes. Im convinced that people are more likely to be vegan than to refuse buying from fast fashion in order to save the planet.

[@Jeulemonger.]

Honestly a really great video, had to sub.

[@Frida_Caramel]

I try to be as ethical as I possibly can with my clothing purchases, but companies like Stradivarius simply make the clothes I like at a more obtainable price than local brands and markets. I try to buy second hand as much as possible, most of my clothing is either second hand or inherited from my mom and grandma, but from time to time I do find myself buying from fast fashion brands. And personally it is quite difficult because I have to maintain a “business casual” look at my ugly corpo job, and a lot of women are expected to match a certain trend or dress ode or style to look “presentable”.

[@arbyswitch5580]

If I come across as stupid here, please cut me some slack lol - Stradivarius makes clothing? I thought they were a violin manufacturer

[@Frida_Caramel]

@ Don’t worry! It’s part of Inditex, they own Zara, Bershka, Pull&Bear, Oysho and a few other brands.

[@KCKGB]

Good points, Harland. On the other hand, I just watched a really bright, catchy Old Navy spot, so... I'm afraid you're taking the L on this one.

[@KCKGB]

Also, I wrote this before the super serious ending, but I appreciate you saying it, along with the work you're doing in general.

[@Cowboy_sasuke]

Chappell fans would absolutely HATE that I paid $50 for a sustainably printed poster in 2023 lol

[@Username0467]

They aren’t the ones complaining

[@EscapeePrisoner]

Can confirm. Failing to conform to fashion results in social isolation. In some cases it can lead verbal attacks by complete strangers. I work from the assumption that these attackers were not allowed to play with dolls when they were children and now they gotta take that shit out on me.

[@rs-op8bb]

hi, black female fan of yours. i think you make great vids and i think youre a pretty cool guy.

[@emmelinesprig489]

i love stumbling on videos like this. this kind of expertise and perspective about how we’ve gotten here gives me hope that we’ll be able to start undoing the harm and build a better future.

[@theclownlyimp]

I've never interacted with your content before, and I came here wondering exactly what your stance would be on this topic. I was pleasantly surprised. You definitely got another subscriber in me.

[@toothycookie]

Are you reading this? Learn a skill. Log off and learn a skill. I'm serious. If you have time to be online doomering about what is about to happen in 2025, you have time to Learn a skill that can help your communities as things become less tenable. Build up your spine, kids. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

[@arbyswitch5580]

Plot twist: I was darning a sock while reading this comment (not really, but I have been known to darn holes while watching KZbin before, and I started playing this video to serve as something to occupy my mind while I was scrubbing out the toilet)

[@akshayde]

Why are you here on a doomering video yourself wasting time commenting instead of learning a skill? Learn a skill, damn it!!

[@toothycookie]

@akshayde This video is very distinctly NOT doomerism, but its ridiculous to insist that the average user online isn't doomscrolling on the regular and This is not the gotcha you think it is. If you mistook it for scolding and decided to try the "you live in a society, how curious!" that's on you. Focus on what you can do instead of trying snappy comebacks in comment sections. I'm focused on what's ahead. Thanks

[@toothycookie]

@arbyswitch5580 no joke LITERALLY was learning this the other week so it's crazy you mentioned darling specifically lmao nice

[@akshayde]

@toothycookie and yet here you are focused on being preachy to others. Is that part of your 'ahead' plan?

[@rachellydiab]

Great video, thank u for sharing your insights! I'm special and I care about the environment hehe

[@Becidgreat]

I don’t get why people can’t just not throw out stuff. I mean poor people don’t have the luxury of throwing out clothes every season. Just get folks to quit throwing shit out and buying new shit instead of putting the responsibility on the backs of the indigent. I mean - people are capable of not purging what they don’t like anymore. Poor people don’t have that problem. Clothes are my armor. I wish I could kick social anxiety in the balls but it doesn’t have any balls. Going outside is a minor miracle some days but if I at least have something I feel makes my outward appearance look reasonable then my head doesn’t spin out for at least 5minutes. I wear cheap clothes that look reasonable. But there’s always been cheap reasonable clothes. Although - the amount of people throwing clothes out for new styles every season has never been greater. People will more likely purchase clothing that looks good and is within their budget than save up for quality constructed sustainable pieces that last decades. Instead of telling folks not to purchase what they can afford - tell them not to throw out what they have.

[@heather2185]

‘Suffering trends’ is a phrase my vocabulary desperately needed, im a seamstress by trade and Im always talking about this to my clients.

[@Brokenstarz55]

As a us based screen printer $40 is not a lot for a sustainably made locally printed concert T. Just the screen printer themselves could be being paid $15 + an hour depending on the area, let alone all the other things that go into just printing the shirt themselves and not just making them. Also most band ts are on cheap gildan heavy cotton and not sustainably made shirts. Gildan are some of the cheapest on the market currently.

[@aprilkurtz1589]

Merch sales are the way we paid for some small amount of touring. I had a full time job, and put any money I could spare into the band. The best and cheapest way I've found to buy tour shirts cheaply is buy them a little while after the artist comes off tour. Yes it requires patience. I would love it if you would do a podcast. Love to you, too, Bro. P.S. I promise that never will I ever talk to, look at, gesticulate towards, breathe the same air as, think about, acknowledge, hate, love, question, fart near, hassle, or listen to Chappell Roan.

[@andiralosh2173]

I love your earnest heartfelt work. Keep speaking plain truth ✊

[@nickkoch6740]

I paid 50 bones for a shirt at the last show I went to and didn’t blink an eye. And it’s been a favorite part of my wardrobe since.

[@pirahna]

You should definitely start a podcast

[@nope5657]

I own one sustainable shirt my spouse got me at a vegan food festival. This was 4 years ago. The shirt still looks almost new and fits the same as it did 4 years ago. And I wear it ALL the time. I need to look into beefing up my wardrobe with more sustainable clothing.

[@gekoh5541]

My partner and I make our own clothes. People ask us why we don't try to sell clothing as products, and the simple answer is that no one who is used to buying offshore mass produced clothing is ever willing to pay us a sane wage for the hours that go into a single basic solid color t-shirt.

[@sandyjeans5518]

Also crazy concept for some people but……..you never NEED merch. And i might sound exclusionary when i say this but im trying to say the opposite. How much merch you own does not equate to how much you “love” something so dont feel pressured to buy. Its okay, its just a tshirt.

[@happyscavenger8940]

$5 sustainable tees if you go to the thrift store 😎

[@roxassora2706]

Or make your own.

[@gloomybear.420]

@@roxassora2706 yea but not everyone can sew so thrift store is one of their only options

[@KaspYAR]

​@@roxassora2706 yes that is always an option, yes, however learning to sew can be expensive (materials and such, but also a time investment) it doesn't help that sewing and especially hand stitching is nolonger taught in person, or taught from parent to child. So unfortunately, not everybody is in a position where they can learn to sew.

[@roxassora2706]

@KaspYAR Iron on designs and paper exist.

[@arbyswitch5580]

Your thrift stores are still pricing tee shirts at $5? At my local places they're all at least $6 (I fucking hate it here!!!!!!)

[@richardcrafton1805]

The last concert i went to t-shirts were 40 and hoodies were 65. So like. These prices are fairly standard for concerts these days. Its cool chapel chose a high quality brand to work with. Wish i liked the design more haha.

[@taylorslade961]

Honestly, as someone that's been going to local shows and big concerts for like 25 years now, I would worry if an artist was selling new/current tshirts for less than $35. If something is super cheap, what had to happen to allow that thing to be so cheap? I'm also a person that makes and alters most of my own clothes so, I know what goes into it. It's insulting for someone to tell me they're only willing to pay $20 for a fashion corset I made by hand. I didn't sit on my kitchen floor hammering eyelets to have some 12 year old tell me they'll not even cover the cost of materials. Not knowing how to make things has made Americans ignorant to the actual cost of things, monetarily and the time it takes.

[@acetylenevirgil]

watching this after coming back from a show for bands with 1/100 of the following of ms. roan. the shirts were roughly 5-10 dollars less than what she's charging and with less transparency about where they're sourced. i don't frequent stadium shows, but i recall when it was front page news that Gojira were charging roughly the same for they're shirts and it was frustrating even then seeing an artist have to handhold adults through the concept of cost being relative to the ability to actually turn a profit. i almost exclusively buy my clothes (save underthings) secondhand with the one exception band tees from shows. i try not to stress too deeply about the ethics of Gildan because i know that the guys selling them are themselves often not in a position to afford more sustainable options, and it's how they sustain their ability to play or, god willing, tour. whether or not that justifies the exploitatiom of a worker in the third world is an uncomfortable truth that i don't think the scene will be reckoning with in the near future specifically because it's an aspect of the culture that everyone is accustomed to. the fact that there are pop fans simultaneously criticizing the overselling of merch (and private jet usage) of other pop stars while also criticizing someone trying to be purposeful i think shows the depth of the discourse. re: quote unquote, male loneliness and the siren call of the alt-right, the only thing i will say is that i think conditional allyship isn't allyship at all. leftists spaces were male-dominated decades ago and they continue to be so now. i think even within leftist spaces, the idea that men are being uniquely oppressed or at least "left behind" by leftist causes indicates an unwillingness to actually engage with the degree of capitalism's harm to our communities, our bodies and our brains. the research consistently shows that everyone is getting (and feeling the effects of being) increasingly alienated as our time is increasingly bought by other people yet the lack of "access" to Women tm is framed as comparable if not more deleterious than violent misogyny. the popularity of black pill and LDAR rhetoric seems to be furthsf evidence that men don't care about hearing nice things from other people, especially women. the crux of these movements is the idea that there is an unchangeable hierarchy of masculinity and those at the bottom have no chance of living fulfilled lives - to say that they were driven there by (heavy air quotes) feminists saying that men as a political class hold power over gender minorities is so bafflingly disingenuous. tl;dr male loneliness is giving i am feel uncomfortable when we are not about me?

[@rachelcolin2765]

Please make more videos like this!

[@jordanp9351]

Thank you for touching on influencers - I am finding it increasingly gross at the rampant, vapid consumption of influencers I see within my sphere - menswear, usually showing off designer mixed with fast fashion, for example new Our Legacy on top mixed with Uniqlo/Zara on bottom. I understand these influencers follow trends so ardently because if they don't the algorithm will basically discard them. It is all just so overwhelming and I often wonder if they feel any moral culpability/complicit to some extent (or collectively on a larger scale). I just can't get over how drab and homogenous it all is, like how many wide legged pants stacking on top of samba/samba derivatives do we need to see? These were the same people pushing classic vans and skinny jeans in 2018. I have pretty much stopped buying new clothing save for 1 purchase this year, don't actually buy clothing very often and the overall feeling of hunting for used clothing, contemplating for months at a time on single piece, is so much more gratifying than just rampant, thoughtless consumption. It also instills so much discipline to resist those urges that are presented to us by corporations, trends, influencer shills etc.

[@rehabghost]

when you go to the store and people tell you "has anyone ever told you that you look like a young jack nicholson" does that feel good or has it started getting annoying?

[@funnytastingmilk]

9:34 say what you want but you know the junya levis go hard

[@ashleyknott8455]

Thank you for the thoughtful outro.

[@Phreemunny]

I paid over $200 for a pair of Paige jeans about 10 years ago. They fit perfectly, are pajama comfortable, and I wear them at least twice a week. They are in practically the same shape as when ai bought them. Saving up for quality clothing is definitely worth the price

[@sggage7823]

i've gone to a concert every year since 2018, t shirts average around $30-$45. i got a long sleeve at a Freddie Gibbs concert once for $40 and was shocked and thrilled.

[@henneth4452]

great video, nice jacket, where did you get it

[@nataschavisser573]

What gets to me is that everyone is selling the same crap. I can go to the store and buy a piece of polyester trash or I can get the same piece of trash on Temu or Shein at half or 1/3 of the price. Just getting something in cotton has become a struggle.

[@aaronhedgesmusic]

I think the other point is that artists don’t really make so much money with radio or streaming anymore. Additionally the Ticketmaster monopoly has pushed out much profit on tickets so merchandise is one of the last ways to make money. On top of that, some venues also even want a cut of merchandise sales although they haven’t paid for either the products sold or labor for the people selling it.

[@landonmoran8613]

Would love to see a podcast

[@keisha2120]

I want to listen to that next thing, so maybe turn that episode into a podcast, cause the fear is definitely there. recent years I just have this vague sense of it but now it's here

[@geeeewhiz.27]

would loooove a podcast

[@trina8255]

Just want to show appreciation for the citation tickets, creative idea!

[@korkinalina]

Taylor Swift's merch now is mostly plastic garbage, but nobody's really pissed about it. I'd rather buy no merch and do something myself by hend to show my appreciation to an artist then buy acrilic cardigan. And if 40$ is too much for me for a t-shirt, well I won't spend it) But Chappell is doing something great and thoughtful with this merch, i love it

[@liamcollinson5695]

I feel like saying designer brands put more effort in and is higher quality when it's likely they was made in a sweatshop too is wrong

[@irynas5518]

I'd listen to your podcast:)

[@fruitloopmylk]

Do you think more people would be open to the price of ethical clothing if their wages were higher? Maybe most people would pay more if they could.

[@Username0467]

The average American wants quantity over quality. The average American can afford quality clothing, just less pieces, and they don’t do it.

[@nikkikoch2345]

you should do a jack torrance cosplay

[@chipcub2719]

i rarely buy stuff like this because it is too pricey for me, but that is a normal price for a tshirt!

[@chipcub2719]

if i'm at a show i paid to be there and that experience is enough for me 99% of the time

[@benpuffer7891]

For one reason or another, I think Americans are hardwired to assume if a shirt is over $20 they're being ripped off.

[@funnytastingmilk]

Kinda controversial, but Kanye's yzy pricing everything at $20 while remaining high quality is the closest one can get to affordable ethical

[@vegathibault2964]

Does anybody know the name of the font in the beginning of the video? Please

[@christophernelson2423]

The Bret Hart reference was top tier!

[@VelmaTheID]

I keep expecting to see the door and the box behind you to fall over.

[@glumdrops3678]

I paid more for a shirt at the Doja Cat concert, my aunt paid 80 for her kanye shirt a couple years ago.