Is Marneus Calgar too powerful?

[@AXE2501]

In the words of Calgar “I CAST FIST”!

[@ashraffhashrin4196]

no no he would say "IMPERIAL FISTING UPON U!!!!"

[@unspeakablemind260]

Autocast build.

[@exzendar2523]

Its Me!!!💖🌸👢🌹 Cato Sicarius🌹👢🌸💖

[@ashraffhashrin4196]

@@exzendar2523 (ULTRA GROANS)

[@itzHippoHiPP0Th3Gam3r]

More like I am fist

[@RogueBlood343]

Marvel watched TTS as a lore synopsis before making this comic

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

Even people who LIKE TTS know how much of a bad idea that is now.

[@alduin4226]

Good Next Games workshop

[@TamanskayaDivision]

@@gratuitouslurking8610 Can you tell me why its a bad idea?

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

@@TamanskayaDivision TTS relies heavily on the mematic elements of 40k for much of it's humor. Cato Sicarious and the Ultramarines in their first portrayal as literally incapable of not succeeding comes to mind, jabbing at the Ward writing that had been going on at the time. Admittedly with the flood of primaris releases GW hasn't helped with the image of marines not being invulnerable but it's just a minor example not even going over the non-canon elements like Magnus and Kitten.

[@culturalliberator9425]

Or Major Kill

[@nuttyteetee8495]

“FHACK OFF!! You sparkly... pixie machine!!” *Casts fist*

[@le_floofy_sniper_ducko]

did kitten pull guiliman's life support yet ;D

[@leiziru9642]

I, Cato Sicarius

[@anquiladremon]

@@le_floofy_sniper_ducko maybe will be kiten but magnus considering mangus and coustodisi are helping the eldar to birth the eldar god of the death and consequence bring back gulliman i hope alfabusa made a parody of gullimang being in love with the eldar and big E be extreme hipocrital about that

[@accessdenied5998]

Who THE FFFFHACK CALLED US

[@Tired-Merc]

@@accessdenied5998 chaos has called you sparky pixie smurfs for a challenge that will give you marines a challenge you truly deserve

[@revolverDOOMGUY]

I can hear Kaldor Draigo laughing in the warp.

[@toomany80s2]

have you ever eaten a tangerine?

[@redbake]

Don't forget about somersaulting Gabriel Angelos from dawn of war 3.

[@revolverDOOMGUY]

@@redbake BUT I WANT TO FORGET!!

[@JCRS2]

@@redbake we don’t talk about DOW3

[@Kaldortangerine]

HAAAAAhHuHhHhebehHhHeEEHEEAAhHahHahahaHæhãaAAú

[@mysticlegion8088]

"Nothing really special when it comes to killing Tau" Tau players:

[@michelecastellotti9172]

I mean, tau fire warriors are no more durable than a guardsmen so... yeah, nothing impressive.

[@kdog3908]

Well, Tau do tend to just say, "Sorry" then shrug and wander off to the casualty section at the end of the table as soon as you get into hand to hand with them.

[@tau-5794]

@@michelecastellotti9172 Correction, their armor is as strong as carapace armor, so *slightly* more durable

[@pat0652]

*Fumes in Tau* "''IU, Bring the Rail Guns...the experimental ones."

[@michelecastellotti9172]

@@tau-5794 who? The tau or the guardsmen? Cuz i have some doubt on the second

[@RaptorZefier]

Me, a Tyranid fan: "Oh boy! They're gonna show some panels of the first Tyrannic War--" Pictures of Calgar fighting purple and white nids, Hive Fleet **Leviathan** **Leviathan** not red and black **Behemoth*** Me, a Tyranid Fan: ...

[@kylesonmez686]

Yep that made me sad as well, poor behemoth rarely remembered

[@blindmonkeyman3960]

Even I recognized that, and I play the guard.

[@kennyleung9909]

They also got hive fleet Kraken wrong at 10:05. 😑

[@emarusso5758]

3/4 people worked on this comic, we know the writer of the story is a huge fan, so either he forgot to inform the colorist, or it’s the colorist fault.

[@henrikandreason7261]

@@kennyleung9909 yeah they are Kinda bleach boned with red armor plates right?

[@chicago928]

All this taught me is that we really need to start giving Avatars of Kaine some wins.

[@Adept24]

That's very true, for all the background of it being a big murderous demon thing, it's hard to think of a time it actually killed anything

[@victdragonmaster5324]

I think or at least according to “the decapitator” from ss82’s battle reports that the swarmlord would have absolutely annihilated Calgar

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

Avatar of Khaine has jobbed more times than is funny. A massive metal construct powered by the strength of a dying elder god has been possessed by greater demons. *TWICE.* Give someone else beyond the Imperium some wins damnit.

[@amorphoussolid8512]

He is basically Worff at this point. Oh gee! This guy is super big and bad and scary and strong! Oh my, this other (insert name here) character just beat him! Imagine how much stronger he is!

[@constrainedanacronysm1370]

Ome of them killed a Black Templars Reclusiarch in terminator armor in the Mechanicus book series. Funny thing is that the Farseer sees 3 possibilities where the Black Templar could have won though.

[@RawCauliflower]

This is why I love Emperors text-to-speech adaption of him.

[@logosofgame4273]

I am almost expecting a high-pitched Sicarius to show up.

[@jamesrichards802]

his bromance with cain is my favourite moment in TTS

[@user-cl5hr3xw2g]

@@jamesrichards802 *TTS verse cos I don't think it's actually part of the series

[@MWH12085]

"FUCK OFF!.....YOU.....SPARKLY MACHINE!" And proceeds to punch a Titan in the foot, causing it to fall.

[@AAhmou]

"Round 2, cockroach!"

[@captainash1297]

Calgar: "My friend died..." Tech Priest: "Who my lord?" Calgar: "The man formerly known as Calgar..."

[@alduin4226]

Tech prist: ah a fellow Alpha legi- Calgar: I CAST FIST!

[@dazza1156]

Tech priest: "fuck marvel"

[@rand0mlyth3re35]

The man, formerly known....as mousecop

[@Overanalyse_This]

I would really like to know who all of the current Chapter Masters are of each of the original 18 legions/chapters

[@axisus9105]

Well what did you expect Marvel treats Calgary like any superhero Insane amounts of plot armor and super strong

[@RocketHarry865]

I wonder who should have made the comics instead

[@dreadcthulhu1439]

@@RocketHarry865 Titan Comics had a couple 40k comics were decent

[@NueThunderKing]

Well for a Chapter Master this is expected, so is par for the course.

[@citrusorange794]

Nah he's blue and in ork logic blue is luck and Calgar is very very lucky

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

Marines ARE super strong. Strong enough to rip the head off a Khorne-bucket-Lord

[@TheMikeSP24]

Personally I feel like Calgar should have died or been made into a Dreadnought during Vigilus when Abaddon beat him. His survival there was truly an act of plot armour.

[@L33TCHI3K3N]

It would have been perfect Abaddon would have been established with a big name kill and perceived much more threatening then he is now.

[@garycheung4658]

Or should have kept him as a normal Space Marine, fight Abaddon, heavily wounded (but not two heart destroyed wounded as it is now) and then crossed the Rubicon to become Primaris in order to stay alive.

[@L33TCHI3K3N]

@@garycheung4658 That's just a cop out he should of straight died or been made a dreadnought.

[@azzag123456]

Whole 8th edition is like this and should never happend

[@KameSennin4209]

They had to make up for abbadon's plot armor when he fought sigismund.

[@serronserron1320]

Kharn the betrayer probably has the thickest plot armor as he killed an entire stadium of Chaos Marines, personally drove several Chapters to extinction, killed numerous Demon Princes, punched a Warhound Titan to death, slain Saint Celestine and now can rip open the Warp at will.

[@thephoenix8722]

But blood for the blood god 🤣

[@robertnelson9599]

Kharne does not have plot armor, he has rage armor. It's what Doomguy and Kratos use.

[@olknoxlo]

@@robertnelson9599 Rage armor can't be as effective. Simply saying because Angron has been beat.

[@tristanellis-mascoll1171]

@@olknoxlo Kharn also died a few times. Its armor, not invulnerbility.

[@domc9801]

@@tristanellis-mascoll1171 Rage armor only confirms your death but you have a death quota before you go.

[@segwaysteve2334]

Wait is he using a flamer against Necrons? - “why is burning the robots not working?”

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

like yea that should have zero effect

[@WarsmithThanatos]

Nice Quote. :D

[@claysk350]

Jet fuel cant melt steel beams...

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

@@claysk350 they are not made of steel >_>

[@Prushinthespirit]

**Dark Crusade intro flashbacks**

[@Robo-kz3nr]

First Tyrannic War* Colours them as leviathan Mfw

[@joevines3428]

Yeah its a bit annoying 😅

[@Diego-py3ts]

Blue is lucky

[@ChapterMasterValrak]

Calgar is comfirmed an Ork? I KNEW IT.

[@wylandnares8642]

Orks psychic power used against them.

[@PuppetMasteronVHS]

I wonder if the Orks will catch on?

[@Diego-py3ts]

@@ChapterMasterValrak Always has been

[@christopherjolly8172]

@@ChapterMasterValrak confirms Calgar actually Ork, read more here at spikeybits

[@Buhlmanzky]

The question should be " Are Space Marines too powerful ? " And yes,they are,they always were,even in lore they are shown to be way more powerful than Chaos Space Marines even though some of them have 10.000 years of experience,they are shown as the non plus ultra faction even though 95 % of battles that the Imperium engages in are fought by the Imperial Guard and Adeptus Mechanicus,they just show up to battlezones where there is already war for years,break the stalemate and get all the glory,Vrask is a good example of this. I really like the more humble Space Marines like Dante,but even he needed help and was almost defeated on Baal,i get that you want your hero to be powerful but if he turns into Saitama from One-punch Man where is the fun ? Thats not a chad move,thats cheesy and boring,but Marine players dont care,they just want the best and most OP characters like Draigo or now Calgar. Back in the Horus Heresy they actually had enough Marines to fight on their own but now they are nothing,1000 Marines should just be overrun in nearly all their battles,thats why the Imperial Guard is there,and if we talk about Iron Warriors and Imperial Fists.....they have them Outnumbered 100 to 1,its stated that the Iron Warriors have the same number of members or are even larger than during the Horus Heresy,so we are talking about 150.000 + Chaos Marines against 1000 Space Marines,but players still think they can beat them in a fight.....but the most important part for me personally is that Space Marines lose their humanity if you show them as this unbeatable hero,the lore moments i remember the most are the ones filled with human emotion,the little girl asking Grimaldus if he will save them from the monsters and him not having an answer,Pedro Kantor carrying the mother because she cant walk anymore,Dante chosing to fight so the Imperial Guard can withdraw,its stuff like that what makes a legend,nor Marneus Kent ripping of heads of stuff thats a dozen times bigger than himself,thats just Ward level writing.

[@ChapterMasterValrak]

Great post, loved reading that.

[@Buhlmanzky]

@@ChapterMasterValrak Its the Chapter Master himself ! Thank you,really appreciate it.

[@angusdalrymple1437]

Preach

[@senorballsack4460]

You are speaking the language of facts !

[@brandonforrester9729]

Yeah Dante is a true hero humble yet powerful but not unbeatable just very hard to kill.

[@saltystrip8761]

I don’t think the argument is “this is too much power for Calgar” it’s more “this is too much power the character” I mean if there’s no risk of him ever dying then every conflict he’s in has weak tension. It’s a problem found in a lot of space marine stories

[@thecommentguy9380]

TTS actually pointed the bullshitery of the Ultramarines. Calgar and his chapter won so much he started crying because he got bored of constantly winning.

[@Convincing_Reality]

Indeed. For example, Terminators are intended to be a Chapter's elite warriors, clad in the finest armour (containing fragments of the Emperor's own) and armed with the most devasting weaponry. Yet in any Space Hulk, Genestealers open them up like a tin of meat with a ring pull. The insane lack of consistency throughout 40k lore is bad enough without Marvel further elevating it beyond the absurd.

[@jacobleonard5138]

@@Convincing_Reality terminators are the the best of the best just genestealers have claws longer then your arm and are four armed murder machines in close quarters

[@Convincing_Reality]

@@jacobleonard5138 True enough. The point I was poorly making is that going from the the best of the best to the Chapter Master shouldn't have such a massive power differential. Calgar is able to somehow individually accomplish what squads of Terminators can't, to the extent that his martial prowess seems to rival Guilliman's with no clear justification.

[@Sandrock999999999]

@@Convincing_Reality that's not really an inconsistency though. Consider, for a moment, that a space hulk is a hyper-claustrophobic environment, where there are hundreds of nooks and crannies and hidden passages. Now here you are putting giant walking tanks in this environment and versing them against living weapons which are EXPLICITLY DESIGNED to fight in these kinds of environments. Of course you are going to see the emperor's elite getting ripped apart. Its like sending a million dollar main battle tank into a urban environment without infantry support. Don't be surprised when it gets popped by the insurgent who spent a couple hundred bucks on an rpg. Sending your elite into an environment where it is not the apex predator means that it's "elite" status doesn't mean as much. Sure, their skill will make sure they don't spontaneously combust, but you are still facing an enemy in their home turf... I would also point out that, despite this inequity, Terminators still tend to win out in when hulks appear. One could argue if there is an inconsistency here, its how INEFFECTIVE genestealers are against protag marines in lore. But is that really surprising, power armor being made of plot-anium and all ;p

[@Astronometric]

The problem with characters this strong is that you stop seeing enemies as real threat. In WH40k humanity is supposed to be in this desperate fight against eldrich terrors (chaos or xenos), but it always fells like there is no struggle when the ultramarines are involved, no matter their foes. In the current setting the Great Rift is supposed to be a great danger for the Imperium but between the return of Gulliman, the primaris and the Ynnari, it does really feel actually better for the “good” guys that from before the plot advancement. I love the progression of the story but they should have boosted Chaos too. The success of Astertes is due exactly too this reason: you see the space marine killing everything without a drop of sweat, even the psykers go down relatively easy, then they are fucked up by a single warp entity. Space marine are not made to be invincible, but to a have a chance against something that is beyond comprehension. Calgar is just a stupid character, biologically he is a regular marine in terminator armour and not a primarch, if he is really on primarch level then we need a justification. I don’t get how GW can still make this kind of stories after getting rid of Ward. They should retcon half of the ultramarines stories. They turned down the Ynnari books because one single story did not sell enough, but they keep depicting space marines this way even if the fans hate it. Coherency at its top.

[@Oaken_head]

Good point. I actually look at those stories as a glorious Imperium war propaganda. Makes it easier to process :)

[@rikkikarrylmabayo2504]

I can taste the salt

[@kamerionsmith4551]

@@rikkikarrylmabayo2504 nobody asked

[@vagabond4576]

They always have been portrayed as inhuman. That is the point of this world. Its Sci Fi and Fantasy mixed with Military and you guys are screaming for realism? Other than Dante. There has been struggle. These guys are supposed to be ageless yet they all die eventually even if it take centuries to millenia. You guys just complain to just complain now.

[@monkeydash4349]

​@@vagabond4576 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJmqhJSeg7-ia9U

[@asaenvolk]

Calgar has the Mark of Ward, this gives him more power.

[@KhaosAdmiral]

I mean, Dude one-shot an Avatar of Khaine by just punching it really hard

[@asaenvolk]

@@KhaosAdmiral Behold the power of the Mark of Ward

[@mberryman7720]

It was on its last 3 wounds and two of his attacks beat the save.

[@adrianmihaizamfirescu4540]

Exactly. It is full of holes from the attacks suffered before. Also the explosion 💥 of Calgar’s transport did some mortal wounds for sure. So over all i think it s not so far fetched considering “who s telling the story”.

[@victdragonmaster5324]

Surprising he won against the swarmlord ss82’s “decapitator” would like to prove he can’t get wrecked by plot armour

[@charliemay3804]

If we’re listing more times Calgar’s lost a heart; in the Vigilus Ablaze book he gets BOTH his hearts plucked out by a Keeper of Secrets.

[@DerSisch]

I see the game rules are reflect the story finally... "Oh you play Space Marines?" "Yes." "Oh... i dont't want to play with you."

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

To an extent that probably is the imperium. A whole bunch of armies bumping into one another, establishing no heresy and going forth to find the ever decreasing xenos threats or the one or two flashy chaos players.

[@Neoth40k]

I thought so, until I finished the Space Marine 2 campaign and saw that it was never plot armor, it was pure testosterone!

[@lemonrazor7812]

11:44 Why's Yvrainne lookin like squidward?

[@joseestevezhernandez558]

Thanks, can't unsee now

[@rhys1441]

Skirting very close to heretical with this statement. He gets +6 for home planet rules

[@mattwells5347]

Necron Pylon: *Exists* Necrons: *Exist* Calgar: *Laughs in Ultrasmurf*

[@Captainval28]

Well apparently everyone is fine with Kharn taking on a titan alone yet everyone is angry with calgar doing the same against a chaos Titan style unit

[@worldeater2414]

There was a very big difference between what the two did. Kharn cut the glass on the face of the titan, while jumping off a cliff. Calgar....did something? It isn't explained really and to top all of this off Calgar rips the head off of this KLoS

[@Flight_of_Icarus]

Who says I'm fine with Khârne taking down a Titan by himself?

[@worldeater2414]

@@Saidan79 I'll answer this for him, it was in Traitor's Hate. A 7th edition book.

[@Captainval28]

@@worldeater2414 I was away to say I have no clue until I noticed you answered him thanks

[@worldeater2414]

@@Captainval28 NP man

[@AnimatedIsaac]

Someone made a pretty good point on a facebook post about this: “if this was Dante nobody would be complaining” 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ChapterMasterValrak]

Well, tbh Dante would have a jump back to get up there, the comic never explains how he got up there, did he climb it in Gravis armour? 😂

[@igncom1]

@@ChapterMasterValrak Gabriel Angelos can backflip in terminator armour. Calgar can do as he likes so long as it's cool.

[@ChapterMasterValrak]

@@igncom1 Please don't remind me of that heresy.

[@WalknTalknStevnHawkn]

@@ChapterMasterValrak sheer force of will or summat like that

[@worldeater2414]

I would remind you gentlemen that Khârn did something alot more impressive, taking out a titan, however he ran off a cliff and made a full jump at the head of the titan while it was distracted. Calgar doing this and not dying is incredibly sus, how he even got up there isn't explained.

[@christianbroadbent7489]

Kharn 1v1'd a titan and won so its not nearly the most op thing a space marine has done.

[@AlexanderForsman]

He is heavily blessed by Khorn. Heretic astartes, due to their gifts, are more similar to custodes than normal SM.

[@davidj3841]

Kharn sacrificed his personality for plot armor when he joined chaos.

[@Duong-dc6cm]

He used gorechild axe to cut though its armour , slaughtered its crews Not rip the head off by unexplained strength like this

[@raptor1234sp]

It's well known that part of the Scout training in any marine chapter is to defeat an Avatar of Khaine.

[@DJsharp707]

lol calgar only took out a lord of skulls? Kharn took out a Imperial reaver

[@worldeater2414]

Damn right he did! Didn't even have Calgar's bs or his powerfist. Just an axe and rage 😎

[@brandonforrester9729]

He killed its crew more accurately.

[@worldeater2414]

@@brandonforrester9729 yes

[@DJsharp707]

@@brandonforrester9729 How else do you kill a titan lmao

[@jamescawl6904]

@@DJsharp707 with another titan.

[@jaydevito914]

I can't stop laughing at the sound effect they chose for Calgar tearing out the heart. "Splunch" is my new favourite thing in 40k

[@s2korpionic]

I'm gonna have to agree with Arch's summary on this one, "mediocre at best, insulting at worst".

[@honda6353]

I realised, the older Calgar gets the closer he resembles Dorn...

[@themaster5637]

He is dorn

[@ChampionMarauder]

That art is astonishingly mediocre. Also, Helbrutes have hearts, there is a shriveled body in there.

[@blackwind-kfpAgentXX]

If you haven't been paying attention to comics, Marvel has hired really lazy artists, editors and writers for a few years now. This art would be considered astonishing by their standards, and they tend to barely look at past issues or lore at all, preferring to use "mainstream knowledge" of the material, i.e. movies and 5 minute youtube vids

[@ChampionMarauder]

​@@blackwind-kfpAgentXX Sounds like someone left the gate open. :(

[@ShadoWafel]

@@ChampionMarauder that what happens when they try to cater to everyone. You work with the lowest common denominator. The result is a mediocre product that doesn't excel in anything

[@jerdasaurusrex557]

Wtf u talking about the art is great. It's super Kinetic and the way the viscera flies on the page is just perfectly violent.

[@ChampionMarauder]

@@jerdasaurusrex557 I'm talking about the faces, bodies, and coloring. Your eyes seem to be drawn to other things like posing and composition, fair enough.

[@silversurfer8818]

He has been marvelized!

[@Evilminiature]

Since when has ultramarines NOT been to powerfull in fluff/lore/comics etc? xD

[@Gigasius]

If I remember correctly, Abaddon kicked their asses during Vigilus. Other than that, eeeeh.

[@haydenlawrie7130]

They repeatedly get fucked on in 30k, especially during betrayer where the world eaters just run at their shield wall formation like retards and are getting slaughtered only for the plot to say ‘fuck you’ and then the world eaters start winning and get rewarded for changing absolutely nothing in their strategy

[@KhaosAdmiral]

it may have already been mentioned but Hive Fleet Behemoth pretty much wiping out most of the UM's first company and the Swarmlord crippling Calgar come to mind

[@thebaron9405]

Are you questioning the Chad level of Calgar, Heretic? But i don't really care about this argument as we seen stupidest things on the lore, and that's why we all love warhammer 40K

[@christianbroadbent7489]

Marneus of the UltraCHADs

[@DarkNaifu]

Chaos Marine: "Face me, brother! Show me what you have!" Marneus Calgar: ~starts linking his perks in chat~ +1 "Tragic Backstory' +2 "The Power of Friendship" +2 "Defender of the Weak" +3 "Primaris Marine" +2 "Chapter Master" .... Chaos Marine: "Wait, no. That's cheating!" Marneus Calgar: ~laughs in Emperor of Mankind~

[@lesnainss]

"Is Marneus Calgar too powerful ?" Marneus Calgar : "FHACK OFF !!!"

[@obi0914]

*Lights cigarette* I once saw Papa Smurf punch a swarm lord so hard it went through several walls and hit a baneblade and the swarmlord and tabk blew up.

[@klo45pl]

Yeah no a lord of skulls is way stronger than the avatar and a carnivex. And even if it was the fact that he killed bigger things does not automaticly mean he is not way to strong for what he should be.

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

avatars being soloed by any space marine is dumb as fuck

[@robertnelson9599]

@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 Almost as dumb as one Grey Knight banishing Mortarion back to the Warp without any help.

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

@@robertnelson9599 A lord of Skulls is a lazy dreadnought. A Bucket on wheels. Even Orks laugh at the crappy mini-gargant.

[@Jormyyy]

@@robertnelson9599 when did that happen??

[@Graavigala85]

this is the huge issue I have with SpaceMarine story telling in general: All of them are too op, all the time. Nothing phases them. It is really hard to give a hoot about anything when the character your follow acts like its another sunday brunch with oatmeal to eat.

[@phaedrosx]

Sounds like you need to read The Horus Heresy series.

[@Graavigala85]

@@phaedrosx i have but the issue remains

[@joshdesjardins8528]

Most space marines novels tend to off quite substantial amounts of battle brothers. NAMED individuals of all races just are ridiculously OP. The second a prominent lore character appears in any novel everything against them gets fucked. This isn't a space marine exclusive issue.

[@kaleoarnold3709]

Would you say helsreach is an exception?

[@citrusorange794]

Depends on the chapter

[@Jenn-lq9yu]

'The Ultramines fought off a hivefleet with just their chapter!' Meanwhile, like 12 Blood Ravens hold off an entire Hive Fleet. xD

[@sorenweber5684]

By stealing all the Bio Mass

[@goliathsteinbeisser3547]

I have always disliked the inconsitencies of comic book lore. I do not think Marvel or DC comics are the right people to handle the dense lore of WH40K and do it justice.

[@hibana364]

So what you're saying is... Calgar didn't need Titus or anyone against Imurah, right ?

[@jonumine6250]

"Marine, drive me closer, I wanna *CAST FIST!*

[@joshmurphy8775]

3:25 Calgar: we'll have to attack from above, Reavers grab you grav shutes, I do not need one clearly, for Im wearing gravis amour Reavier Lt: But Chapter master, that makes n... Calgar: Shut up! I do what I want and I like what I do!

[@CeeJay94]

Simply put yes no Primaris lieutenant should be that powerful

[@docvaliant721]

I bet he looked like buzz light year climbing when going up that lord of skulls.

[@ForestRangerFletcher]

Love to see 40k getting into different types of media but this series just lost me after the first 3 comics. I just don't feel any desire to read more.

[@imperialfist2304]

0:56 I thought, O’ glorious avatar of Dorn that you swore us to never speak of ‘that’ ever again.

[@pedrokdc]

Marneus has so much plot armor that I believe he can shrug a bolt to the face....

[@claysk350]

uriel did

[@burstingwizard975]

This sort of ultrawank is why I started playing Chaos marines back in 4e

[@eugeneoliveros5814]

Nah, he’s just channeling his hate of Cato Sicarius into the enemy

[@teagan5494]

There is one way to beat any odd…be them scaling against or towards you….wear blue…and scream *”FOR THE EMPEROR”*

[@richardduska1558]

Marvel writers getting basic facts wrong?.... I'm realy not suprized at all. They rarely give a damn about lore in their own work so why would I expect them to care for 40K lore?

[@sonofjack6286]

3:20 Which makes no sense, because Ultramar. Having a shantytown in ULTRAMAR makes zero sense at all, as these people would be looked after, and the worlds of ULTRAMAR work in a way that respects and preserves the biosphere of the planets they've colonized.

[@Peter_Turbo4]

Fun fact: You can do this on the tabletop with relative ease

[@kuriakosejim8696]

“sire, there’s only 3 of us and 30,000 of them” Calgar: “Then it’s an even match”

[@lorddamocles2222]

Funny how Calgar Sue wasn't a problem in Warzone Damnos when he was literally manhandling a Necron Pylon in order to shoot down a Tesseract Vault.

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

That was literally the point the problem became clear to most people...

[@inquisitormaddox8581]

“Fuck my mouth is dry” -Marneus Calgar

[@McAwesomeReaper]

Didn't he get killed in the second issue? And wasn't he replaced by someone who is not Marneus Calgar? So who is this video about?

[@DarkAutumnScribe]

Come on Valrak, there is no such thing as "too powerful" for the Sons of the Emperor. As a matter of fact, questioning such things is Heresy! Turn yourself in at the nearest Inquisitorial Station!

[@Jason-gq8fo]

I mean he’s the chapter master of the current strongest chapter, it’s not that crazy. Logan grimnar or Dante can do similar things and people wouldn’t complain

[@AAhmou]

While I may agree about Grimmar, but Dante? He can barely survive most of his encounters lately.

[@megazaku1139]

Well, Dante does have a jump pack, and wields an inferno pistol

[@andrewfornes5320]

I think Dante still has it in him to win; psychologically though, I think he wants to die though. Also, off topic but seeing this art in the comics makes me wish they would drop an Adventures in the Warp, a Corvus Corax story. Just follow his warp entity version around the Warp getting fatality finishers against demons.

[@TempestSol]

This is just Calgar doing Calgar things. He's done far greater things than this since the 90s.

[@logosofgame4273]

4:28 what is with the scale in this image. Calgar looks bigger than the Impulsor!

[@razalfraz6618]

I saw that too that Marine is as big as his leg wtf

[@little_isalina]

"A Lord of Skulls is not as powerful as a carnifex" --Valrak 2021

[@e21big]

"nothing special about killing Tau" - except their blood is red (so Gunva may be?)

[@AlexPhaeronofMarbles]

And with SM2 out this just happened to pop in my feed. Epic

[@JayAndNightASMR]

Now I want to get his models to add to my deathwatch

[@josephbrown7283]

I personally love Calgar as a big badass in the 40K universe, who doesn't love a character who just goes around killing everything

[@ReadThisIfYourG3y]

I don’t, he’s not the emperor or something, just look at his feats there ridiculous, like who would win calgar vs Ahriman?

[@o0Takeno0o]

After the retun of Big G i guess Calgars death is more possible than ever before in the Storry

[@aeneaskonig9044]

Not after getting a completely new model xD

[@o0Takeno0o]

@@aeneaskonig9044 a dead calgar doesn't mean his model won't sale anymore. There are plenty Charakters that are playable but died long ago

[@aeneaskonig9044]

@@o0Takeno0o Whom? Exept Horus Heresy stuff naturally.

[@NoTimeAllTime]

Maybe the real question should be, 'Is Marneus Calgar powerful enough?"

[@wellhungindung]

Angron and Lorgar taking down a Titan while Kharn cried was the best bromance in the galaxy ever.

[@tau-5794]

Nah, Kharn and Argel Tal was the best.

[@leodcl5237]

Meanwhile, the subtitles Abaddon fought Cowgirl

[@Yawbus1976]

Eventually, you stop making the hero look powerful and just start making their enemies look pathetic. The worst and laziest writers always make this mistake.

[@andrewfornes5320]

This art always makes me want them to drop a comic series about the Warp, following Corvus Corax around.

[@UnkleKlumsy1353]

That's the level of classless fanwank I'd expect from modern GW

[@MrMattdoubleu]

Great vid @chaptermaster! I'm very much a beginner to the lore, but would still like to share. Yes, he appears to be massively powerful. Maybe too powerful. But if the empire is to have a chance, such heroes are needed. If the chaos eldars etc. are so powerful, there are so many threats from all sides, the Imperium must have some jacks in its sleeve to survive, even barely. He may be a badass but he can't be everywhere!

[@geaskadosh]

I am getting Matt Ward vibes from this vid

[@bradpitt5355]

Omg is 3 years old, i thouthg its the content for Space marine 2

[@scrubsrc4084]

Thats what happens when marvel get their filthy hands on other ip

[@senorballsack4460]

Nah disney fecked over marvel and marvel are just listening to them

[@senorballsack4460]

So yea your right but its disneys fault

[@Яррр-ъ1р]

That is so cool to see Calgar in Space Marine 2 again.

[@dilophosaurussk4333]

"If a primarch can beat an Avatar Of Khaine and then Calgar can beat an Avatar Of Khaine then Calgars power level is up there with a primarch" Just because a pro wrestler can beat a 3 year old at wrestling does not mean i am a pro wrestler.

[@Kardel_VA]

Take a shot everytime Valrak says "Calgar"

[@ChapterMasterValrak]

RIP

[@xzenitramx666]

No that powerful is he dies after being stab in the back with a simple knife

[@rustkarl]

I really don’t think Calgar could 1v1 a Lord of Skulls without some serious bullshit at play.

[@KhaosAdmiral]

I mean, to this day I still think its bullshit that he 1v1'd an Avatar of Khaine and won.

[@GUMMRUCHK]

Marneus? Don't you mean Tacitus?

[@Hellsong89]

Yeah i understood they took well established character and out right killed him and replaced him with some guy known as Tacitus.. such bullshit... but this is Marvel we are speaking so go fucking figure they would pull something like this..

[@lucerojunior6644]

I imagine him firing at the neck of the giant thing, before pull the head with his powerful terminator suit assist. lol

[@Captainval28]

As I said on fbook I love this cause ever since I found out the ultrasmurfs live in harmony with nature which we in real life is struggling with but waking up to the fact we must in order to survive they’ve been my most favourite faction not that that means I’m not a fan of other faction space marines is my most favourite force but ultramarines, salamanders and imperium fists is in the top 3

[@NewGuy2534]

Well Marneus Calgar is currently a corpse. Now Tacitus on the other hand....

[@ninjaturtle574]

eugh he will always and forever be a smurf and thus a weak scrub with too much plot armour

[@bliblivion]

13:05 those armors are more tau like an SM. At least Assault marines could maneuver on the ground, this armors set look so combersome it makes no sense

[@noocnik]

Who cares? It's marvel you're talking about here.

[@TheArklyte]

But can he do backflips in Terminator armor? No? Then his cybernetic body needs more buffs!:D And since we're talking Chapter Masters, isn't there a lore based metabuild called Smashf//cker, which is basically a way to make a Primarch from CM?

[@MortenWill]

I heard "Calgar is Alpharius" - No need to watch the rest of the video

[@garfusa2]

Calgar has that magic flamer that doesn't need the pilot light to fuel the promethium. Bless him.

[@maciekwilkosz6377]

Nobody has more plot armor than Failbadon the Harmless 😁

[@little_isalina]

'The problem with this story isnt Calgar's powerlevel so much as the fact that there is no sense of tension. The dramatic reveal of the chaos champion serves only as a vehicle for the flashback sequence and is then cast aside quicker than it was introduced, and the Lord of skulls, which should be a major story climax is trashed along with it, because god forbid there is an actual challenge for the main character to grow from.