Character Deletion! No Banks! Everything that Went Wrong in Pre-patch.. & Everything that Went Right

[@dweorg4332]

More Evitel involvement is such a boon to your videos! Her dead pan delivery of jokes is so funny.

[@manthe3711]

Yeah, this channel has honestly just been "Just Taliesin" for like 3 years. I started to think she no longer played WoW and was staying here because that's how the channel is named.

[@Minorheadlines]

Evi is the best

[@whitescpdr]

Wood nut in cider!

[@Mooinator3000]

@@manthe3711 I feel that it was more so that they've got two young children making it harder for both of them to be fully involved on screen

[@tylermcnally8232]

You misspelled bane

[@AshendrisSilvermist]

I choked on my drink with Evi's question about our favorite positions and then where we put our main's around the fire. Girl, I've been following you two for years yet you still manage to catch me off guard lol ❤️

[@TooMuchTuna7]

Cracked me up too

[@wunahahahah]

funny cuz sex

[@Waterloggedgaming]

Was a gem forsure ^.^

[@fire_in_ratti]

IKR Evitel is such a mood!! ❤

[@UltimateGamerCC]

"Giggity!"

[@goblinounours]

Taliesin going out of his way to call Nerubians "crabs" made me smile. Also Evitel doing that subtle "what's your favorite position" joke... Well done, guys, great video.

[@outofcontrols7486]

I would love to see the warband toons be able to be used as bots for dungeons or a open world group. They could be companions or something.

[@fdisciple7634]

Imagine world pvp with someone multiple boxing with all their warband members. Would that be fair at all ?!!

[@Ikaraii]

I believe it’s already been stated that Blizzard intend for your warband members to be able to be used in follower dungeons.

[@regalgiant1597]

The achievement progress deletion for a myriad of different achies, was a real blow, very frustrating.

[@randomaccount-dq1jq]

Ikr, needing to try and get some of the Maldraxxus outfits for the meta nearly had me requesting Blizzard for a refund 😂😂

[@regalgiant1597]

@@randomaccount-dq1jq I can't even know how much I lost overall, I knew Iw as only one away for the treasures of the Wakeing shore, now I am back to 0, would not be so bad but you need to rng the unlocks from chests which is seemingly 1 per 50...

[@Itsyourboyben1]

Yeah, this one really upset me. This needs to be fixed asap

[@jerryswihart]

I thought the achieve progress deletion was bad until I started losing BFA reps. 3 of my once exalted reps are now at 0. And I have proof of this because I have their exalted tabards sitting in my bank! The worst part? Blizz responded to my ticket with "We can't fix anything related to bugs, closing ticket" and after I opened it again saying "You probably should DEFINITELY fix things related to BUGS" they responded with "Submit a bug report and we might fix it" These GMs need fired.

[@rayjaylemke]

I love the joke that Taliesin made about that long video essay, and what I think is even funnier is I definitely would’ve listened to the entire thing 😅

[@catrinastars]

I thought xal'atath’s timing was spot on. 😉

[@ElloaWendy]

SAME! :D

[@nikopawlowic6557]

What is my preffered position? OH MYYYYYY!

[@Tygur]

Fun to see Xal'atath stopping by to delete main characters IRL. Very on brand with this patch.

[@Ner0sys7]

Reverse cowgirl. Position 1. Did I do it right?

[@sombrego2260]

I did the character deletion thing but support was super reactive and I got my toon back in like an hour. Kudos to Blizzard for being that reactive on such a busy day to be honest.

[@becca5816]

man i got told I was basically out of luck for now when I contacted them

[@happychap007]

I hadn't considered the position of main in the warband screen and now its all I can think about

[@bobndude2]

I noticed the ear thing too *chefs kiss*

[@MaemuraLonewolf]

Same. Glad it wasn't just me lol.

[@michaels5217]

"Evitel & Taliesin" has quite a ring to it...

[@silvertineprime]

I will say that the cinematic trailer reminds me a lot of the vanilla wow trailer in a lot of ways. This one's obviously a little more focused but just a bunch of shots of cool shit that you'll get to explore in the game

[@alexperry7219]

My favorite warband position is reverse cowgirl. Thank you for asking.

[@zenmindgamer]

Evitel's bit was so spicy 😂

[@Phane02]

Warband P1 = Bodyguard P2 = Main P3 = Bodyguard P4 = Advisor

[@purpletester8503]

Smart 🔥

[@KidMoxie]

Just wanna say I think it's pretty neat that Blizz is making a bunch of custom Xal'atath interjections for folks.

[@TrixAreForKicks]

I wish I could make tabs in the log in screen. Used servers for that beforehand

[@HawkknightXC88]

That makes more sense than just the single warband tab. Makes things more easy to navigate.

[@jasonstaubach6846]

very nice reset, surprised you didn't even mention the blizz union tho. fun watch as always especially loved the xalatath bit

[@danmendence9688]

These little intro bits are getting better and better! Something unique that sets your videos apart, keep up the good work!!

[@Jlindblad]

DENMARK IS MENTIONED \o/ LETSGOOOOOO

[@Solanaar]

Evitel's segment had me on the floor laughing. The jokes and the delivery are incredi ble

[@john.adcock]

Evitel woke up and chose violence with those jokes.

[@Rhordric]

Assuming that d20 lamp can be turned it's a bit of a missed opportunity to not set it to be a 1 today instead of a 20

[@leighbomaya]

Can just imagine Tali's joy when that Xalatath video popped up.

[@Tyindris]

I also feel like it should be mentioned that the quests where you become npc's in MOP Remix are very broken. The mobs deal very large amounts of damage and your abilities are knocking off 3-5% at a time. This is the Scouting report quest in Jade Forest and from what I've heard the Chen Stormstout quest is also broken.

[@ellagg]

I love there being a storyline now going on in the intro.

[@jacobhindson2275]

Don’t forget prepatch also broke the Landfall achievement in prepatch as well

[@patnoneya4098]

Turns out it broke a lot of achievement progressions. Like path of ascension in Shadowlands.

[@DarkLimpan]

@@patnoneya4098 As well as "Taking From Nature". I was only needing the "Roaring Dragonspring" fishing hole before this week. Now, it shows as my main having completed that objective, but instead are missing "Burning Ascent" now. And of course, "Roaring Dragonspring" is up this week, so I don't know if that will be counting.

[@johnotero7714]

@@DarkLimpan do it regardless.

[@DarkLimpan]

@@johnotero7714 Yeah, I did do the fishing hole daily at Roaring Dragonspring last reset. For this reset, Taking From Nature is shown as fully completed.

[@cameronkilcoyne1366]

This bit with the neglected priest is SSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOO funny!!! 😂😂😂 The whole warband jokes are top tier in general!!

[@zero1eye]

delete me...

[@johnotero7714]

@@cameronkilcoyne1366 I about pissed myself when she yelled "shut up veil" 😆😆😭

[@GrumpyWelshDad]

you can follower group farm brackenhide hollow for the storm shards needed for the new transmog

[@martynjeffries937]

Evy on fire, that vid felt like a big return to form for the channel gz

[@rfjohnson69]

Let me tell you a story about my experience with warbands (worth the read, I promise) I logged in and saw a bunch(10) of toons that all had my name associated with them with an alpha numeric combo afterward (think AETH or something similar). I just assumes someone at bliz had screwed up and assigned me someone elses toons and didn't want to mess with them. No biggie, I figured they would get fixed Fast forward 72 hours and Im logging in and see that they were still there!. Now Im getting worried, will I get in trouble for having access to these toons?" Will they remove my actual characters when they fix the issue? Soi I dig into it a bit more and holy cow did I hit the motherlode. Quick note: I played Vanilla to LK, stopped playing 14 years ago, and actually deleted all of my characters and account after I gave all my gold to a guildie. I was 100% sure I was done with WoW. I didnt come back until 2 years ago at the end of Shadowlands. My old toons were no longer available, but I still was able to create a new BNet account. I figured starting from scratch was not a bad thing. So when I looked at the toons in more details I realized that THESE WERE MY OLD DELETED CHARACTERS!!!! I was so pumped. I logged into my old main, renamed him and suddenly was transported into my past. The toon (no level 30 after squishes) has all the gear and materials from when I last logged into it. It was weirdly emotional. Apparently I was more attached to this toon that I realized. After some checking and verificaiton that this was indeed my old toon I found 1) I somehow was still a member of my old guild (which only has a few people left in it and even those folks hardly ever log into WoW). 2) My mounts from 25 man hard mode TBC were available (now considered legacy mounts) 3) I got a crap ton of warband achievements and xmogs that are no longer available from pre-2010 4) I got several titles including Jenkins back 5) My character bank was like a 2010 time capsule and had a crap ton of alchemy and leatherworking mats (which I have since sold on the AH for Sh*ts and giggles) 6) Somehow, even though I had given all that money away, I have 22k gold on the toon. Not a big deal due to inflation, but 22k was a LOT back in the day. Oddly I vaguely remember giving that guildie 60k so Im not sure how that happened. But it did.... It was...and is...one of my best WoW moments ever. All because someone must have done a SQL query and necro'd all my deleted accounts that were associated with my email address. I need to buy that person a beer. I have since gotten the toon up to 70 and will walk into the proverbial sunset by making in a secondary shammie for TWW. Fin

[@POTATOEMPN]

Also, I have had the same 16 characters since I started in BC. Any new races, I did whatever I had to to unlock them and race changed. I have three new characters with jibberish xbox-live-style names. All of my characters have well thought out names. Role playing names. None of that "Potatoemage, Potatoerogue" that people like to do. They are all their own character with their own back story, as vague as some of them may be lol. All that to say it's definitely people experiencing their deleted characters AND random never seen characters as well, all coming up.

[@lexzbuddy]

Dwarf doing reps... Physics 101. You can't pull down harder than your own weight so, he'd either lift himself up or there's not much resistance in that chain. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, you know. Just saying.

[@EMarigold]

Love the editing guys!! Fantastic video as always 💜💜 hope youre all well :)

[@TastyScotch]

Sizzle reel. Thats a good way to describe it. Thanks tali 😁

[@Eryniell]

I got the weirdest bug, where some of my characters hair colors, styles and faces were changed with this patch XD

[@epsom3891]

My spells keep disappearing every time I log in and out on my mage but all my other toons seem fine.

[@JD-kf2nz]

@@epsom3891 I had that too on a new char but when I got to 10 and unlocked talents, I could save my "loadout" which stopped the problem.

[@timgundel6830]

Yay! I live in Denmark I watch all of your videos, and have done so for years, this episode is some of your best work! Great stuff guys. Just thanks for keeping the "wow flame" alive Inside me

[@marcelopivato1441]

I had all my horde toons on a separate server from the allied ones... now they are ALL in 1 warband. feels like a war is about to happen any time soon...

[@jackvai2681]

the important thing about the cinematic is that it's woke. as long as they feed me a woke cinematic, i don't even care if the game works properly... is that what they really think that we think?

[@andrewchristie118]

what is the quest window addon used in the video ?!! specifically at 13:15 I need to know

[@dc9391]

Looks to be Dialogue UI from Curseforge

[@frozentattertots]

feels good having the E back in T&E

[@xarrison8274]

The fact that I'm still stuck with both Lava Burst and Elemental Blast (still one charge, supposed to replace Lava Burst) as a shaman just blows my mind. I have enough abilities as it is.

[@TheRealMantova]

Dude tell me about it logged in put my talents points in and was like wtf, I thought blizzard decided to reduce our number of buttons. Next minute, an extra 2 haha

[@xarrison8274]

@@TheRealMantova ugh I know right? I really hope they fix it soon

[@quranyeshua]

You forgot to mention WoW staff unionised. Now I can pay bliz with regular money again instead of using my gold for gametime and expansions

[@Kadaren]

yes!!! praying they remain strong in their collective bargaining

[@Orvos-]

Was this a way to stand against blizzards treatment of employees? Buying anything with gold via the wow token makes blizzard more money than just paying with cash.

[@richardharrison903]

That is seriously good news in my eyes. It is time that, under current circumstances, all IT staff should start to collectivise because the situation is awful. Work in a different area of it but the issues are still parallel.

[@sardonicspartan9343]

😂😂 good luck with that

[@Runzi333]

This! Very very exciting and a huge deal as far as unions in general but also games unions!

[@ElloaWendy]

Excellent episode! Made me smile. Made me laugh! I LOVE the trailer so much. Especially the harronir shamanistic dance part!! And as for my main character (Draenei priest), she sits second place, by the fire. The first place has been allocated for my hunter alt, which is a goblin, and small.

[@druidicleonnnjj]

13:15 - These Storm Spirits can also drop from DF Raids and DF Dungeons!

[@nardrosis]

Deleted my main with this bug and thought I was just ret*rded, now I'm not upset at myself anymore but angry at Blizzard!

[@CloneGeneral]

Cheers to you Taliesin for calling out how lacking the cinematic was without actually saying any criticism out loud with a bit!

[@kabrozkabroz]

Hello "Evitel and Taliesin", my favorite position is behind that Harronir dame in the video. Thank you

[@iGizmoTech]

I've had a old account that was closed by WoW due to..."clears throat"...violating the terms and services by buying Gold. And with the new warband, some of those characters somehow are playable again. Very strange, but I'm not complaining. One of them had the Lord of War title.

[@Dezzerkas]

The joint account roast was great. Tali catching strays.

[@mcgreevers4652]

The Xalatath cameo!! Same happened in one of Hazel's videos!

[@1337Simo1337]

What went wrong ... "Comments on this news post are locked." LMAO gj wowhead.

[@nicolaj990]

Hope you enjoy your time in Denmark 😊

[@alexanderaugunas9795]

Love that the Evi / Tali segment time ratios are getting closer to 1:1 again!

[@Ash2cents]

Considering the effort you clearly put behind all of your videos, I think you deserve a lot more subscribers ! Well, I can't bring a lot more, but I can bring... at least me ;)

[@reeven1721]

I love how many KZbinrs just went "yeah eff Blizzard’s default quest UI" and hard switched to Dialog UI in official content coverage XD

[@delroland]

favorite position: cowgirl favorite main spot around the fire: far left (warlock so best for pet)

[@tylermcnally8232]

Incels love sex jokes.

[@Aurum997]

My Maldraxxus meta achievement progression reset (woo, that thing that's still a weekly for the big meta), I leveled two characters in Timerunning and neither gave the heritage achievement and then I hit exalted with a rep in Timerunning which also didn't give credit. It's... Been a week.

[@reidistired1235]

Tali you know damn well we’d watch that entire essay! 😂 Also, the contrast between how classy Evi’s outfit, make-up, and nails are in this video and the subtle lowbrow humor was gold.

[@abydosianchulac2]

"and everyone else who lives in this house" Tali, are you four safe? Is there someone else there with you? Tell us Tuskarr should be removed if you're in danger.

[@Orvos-]

Listening to this while playing WoW, my game crashed when Zal took over.

[@ElloaWendy]

Coincidence? I think not.

[@Runzi333]

Hey we should talk about the union! Its very good and exciting news! More people need to know how important it is too! I know it maybe wouldnt make sense to talk about it in this particular video but yeah. 🎉

[@CrystalblueMage]

For Flags on poles with equal height it is, middle before sides, and right before left, sorted by name (in French), but always starting with the main.

[@Mellofello1]

Thanks for the communication, makes me have more hope for this Xpac. Dk goes far right, hunter/DH goes middle right. Mage goes middle left and Evoker/healer goes left :D

[@Mellofello1]

P.s: Massive swords are fun. Getting CC'ed forever sucks, More aggressive gameplay is better. Pillar humping in Arena sucks. DBM being basically required sucks.

[@balzonyr4head]

I skip all the cinematics and I despise dragon riding. So happy I can switch flying styles.

[@lexzbuddy]

I hate dragon riding. I was over the moon to see the toggle to switch it off.

[@DemethVLK]

The sass of Évitel is so entertaining, I had a great time!

[@hanasong685]

Regarding the main's place around the fire: i didn't think of that before u guys mentioned it, i just payed attention to the order in the list so main's on top - like they always were :)

[@richardharrison903]

"The bank is being used by another member of your warband" should be a motto for the whole start of this expansion...and it's still not fixed yet 😀

[@stann4730]

It'll need alot of work to be fixed

[@richardharrison903]

@@stann4730 Might be a piece of piss but they can't be arsed. Who knows?

[@lilithamberle6470]

with the mention of how the three factions of TWW are represented in the cinematic, i'm kinda surprised that Tali missed/didn't mention that everyone in the cinematic also kinda represent the 4 remaining cosmic forces still in play... Order (Earthern), Light (Arathi), Life (harronir) and Void (Xal/nerubians)

[@RarVampyr]

The Archivist's Elegant Bag has also changed its appearance completely. :( I hate it and want it back.

[@GBugden]

Is Khadgar the Morgan Freeman of WoW? The man we could all listen to read a phone book.

[@Alpha_Sigma01]

Fantastic vid you two, thnx!

[@nerfedtroll]

Campfire placement: Far left: Gnome Warlock Left: Night Elf Demon Hunter (Ally Main) Right: Pandaren Monk (Horde main) Far right: Goblin Shaman

[@tristanmattwig8541]

The ears moving made me gasp. However, the dwarf is too short to be causing that hammer to go so high and slam down

[@unclvinny]

Maybe it's some kind of elaborate pulley trick? Like the opposite of a block and tackle.

[@vash_dakari]

A proper geared system could make it possible. He's only pulling far enough to raise it up, at which point it releases and gravity does the rest, bringing the system back to reset where he repeats the process. Add a counterbalance into the system, and he wouldn't even be exerting himself that much.

[@Heroasteral]

My problem with that very cool and awesome dorf doing very cool and awesome pulling of a big fuck off chain is that I refuse to believe he's heavier than the chain and what it's connected to. Which he would have to be to be able to pull it downwards

[@MarkusJackDijkgraaf]

​@@Heroasteral that's not how gravity works. You can pull down objects many times your own weight.

[@Heroasteral]

@@MarkusJackDijkgraaf Imagine you pull on a rope that hangs from the ceiling. How do you stop pulling yourself up the rope?

[@taom4itu]

I remoed all my characters from favorites and I am now back to how it was. So much better.

[@Heroasteral]

Hjærtelig velkommen til Danmark når i kommer!

[@anthonyaigle1742]

Nice call out on the crab mode 😂

[@1776-RoundTwo]

6:13 Anvil position is my fav. Central/left is main position in WoW.

[@lackslink]

My campfire order left to right: - 1st alt (far left) - Main - 2nd alt - 3rd alt I don't know why but that makes sense to me :)

[@geminiblade]

Ngl I dislike having all characters in one big list especially since mine seems to not be organized by realm? And it seems I got characters restored like said in video. The 4 around the fire is fine but the rest needs work UI wise

[@ILHillbilly67]

They’re paying out extra days because of the war band screwup. Supposedly they got the fix and it’s gonna be pushed out on the reset which means that we finally get to buy all of our bank tabs well, some of us do. from what I understand some of them are quite expensive. Looking at getting three total so far and hopefully they’ll be able to make crafting from both reagent bag/bank and war band bank A thing. The Forest Troll, casting life magic is interesting. The Earthen is either becoming a Shaman or a warrior

[@EyeKahnography]

Warband positioning is key. Left for the hunter, Shaman in slot 3 so you can see totem best, and SH in 2 and DK in 4

[@malakaspawt3190]

You're not going to get something like old soldier from the D.E.I hires Blizzard have on board.

[@johnotero7714]

" SHUT UP VEIL" jesus i laughed so hard

[@conan59er15]

When the title is ambiguous but you know exactly what game just by track record.

[@TheAsexualJellyBean]

Hope you enjoy your trip in little Denmark!

[@Mtbambeno]

Mission Table position of course!

[@Beer_Wolf]

The Stormrider sets you can quickly farm up the 50+500 you need by killing the 'rare' Forge fella you spawn in Fyrakk Assault... drops 25-50 per kill.

[@Astr0tune]

Ok, this was amazing. Great job!

[@Ben-vb2us]

I have my most played (Tauren Hunter) on far left, then BE warrior, then BE rogue, then Zandalari paladin :)

[@yeahitsmesofkinwhat]

My main is gone. I didn't know there was a bug and now she's gone. My favorite position is dog-... I mean, to have my main on; the middle left(#2 position), my hunter on the far left (#1 position), 1st alt on the middle right(3rd position), and my bank alt on the far right(4th position).

[@Itsyourboyben1]

Bring back that giant tree mount that changes color each season and the armored BFA hippogryph to the trading post for new players and those that werent around at the time

[@SoldierSide88]

Well my favourite position is... Wait a minute! You nearly got me. Not this time, Evitel. Not this time.

[@annienglish4378]

All of that happened in the Beta, not the pre patch, although the first day of Remembered Onynxia and the Radiant Echoes went awry.

[@SecretAsianMan2222]

I didn't know you guys were still doing this lol. The algorithm never serves me your videos anymore and I assumed you just stopped making content.

[@PsychKenn23]

I'm disappointed we aren't getting warbringer-esque videos leading into the expansion. We're less than a month out and no release in sight of some character centered shorts. Guess they got cut to bring the expac out faster, but I still miss those videos. The Azshara one was excellent.

[@Kawby3]

i would give anything for the Harranir to have glow in the dark warpaint. wow