That 30% markup is probably cause they know you're taking up 2 spots lol
@BrandEver11710 ай бұрын
Also just to keep a benefit for Tesla ownership while also opening up the chargers to others. I think that's a pretty fair way of doing it instead of excluding people from using otherwise empty chargers *coughRIVIANcough
@Dankflamio10 ай бұрын
lol. true. They deserve to be able to charge more since they did invest all that money into the infrastructure.
@lars-andreeilertsen10 ай бұрын
Well by that logic it should have been 100% higher shouldn't it? 🤣
@Nonsense6236510 ай бұрын
@@lars-andreeilertsenNo that would be an outrageous cost increase! They still need to be competitive with charging America stations!
@MrMega20010 ай бұрын
They should take the profit and retrofit the chargers with longer cables. Problem solved.
@DennisMiller-m4y10 ай бұрын
I was at the Cleveland auto show today and the Ford manufacturer representatives said on the 2024 lightning, the Tesla Charging port will be on the right side along with the CCS port on the left side. As a Tesla owner the greatest percentage of Tesla chargers are the short, stiff, and thick cord variety!
@manitobasky10 ай бұрын
2024’s are out one plug, 2025’s maybe.
@scottz4510 ай бұрын
Ford can only use V3 superchargers so they are the slimer cabled sites. The stiff ones are V2 and those will remain Tesla only.
@powertothesheeple542210 ай бұрын
Ah yes, good ol' marketing and sales telling customers fairytales that make the actual engineers roll their eyes. Next gen BEV truck - which wont be called Lightning - will have that capability. Why would Ford spend thousands of dollars for a second charge port on a vehicle that only has 2 years of production left, when an adapeter does the trick and you make the customer pay for it?
@MattP7258110 ай бұрын
@@powertothesheeple5422 Completely agree, even if the adapter was included it still doesn't make sense to have two ports... thats like making a combo Betamax and VHS player.
@ericblanchard587310 ай бұрын
Tesla is adding 1 supercharger stall per hour in the US. That's pretty cool.
@aaaaaa-hh8cq10 ай бұрын
that's.. really cool.
@dillonh32110 ай бұрын
Tesla is almost all of the US charging infrastructure at this point. Especially if you factor in fact that Electrify America network is a pile of crap with constant issues.
@favoriteben67_865 ай бұрын
Doesn’t change the fact that they are not reliable, put together like legos with Elon with his kids aex12 or whatever the fuck his kids name is. This industry is a joke
@darpompie43545 ай бұрын
It was pretty cool until Elon fired everyone in their supercharger devision. I heard he is hiring some of them back. But sheesh, it's hard to trust anything Elon is involved in. I thought Ford would just replace the one port they have to the Tesla port to keep costs down but now I am thinking one on each side might not be a bad idea. Oh Elon...Sigh.
@elizabethashling4 ай бұрын
@@favoriteben67_86 Teslas are way more reliable than ICE cars and require much less maintenance. I've also only ever come across two broken supercharger stalls since 2020. You ICE car people keep making things up
@thatguydylan31410 ай бұрын
Mad respect for filming, editing, and releasing a video all on the same day 🫡
@jandraelune110 ай бұрын
There is the V4 Tesla superchargers: higher wattage output up to 350KW, liquid cooled cables, and the cables are longer. So non-Teslas will not be as much of an issue as those cables are long enough to at least reach mid way down a longer vehicle or the other end on a shorter one.
@hasrataulakh10 ай бұрын
Technically its not 2 chargers per car, its just 1 extra So if there are 10 fords they will take up 11 spots They might start a new thing like teslas on left spots and fords on the right side spots
@evkx10 ай бұрын
There is none V4 supercharges yet. It still V3 with V4 dispenser. So same power as V3
@michaelrichter252810 ай бұрын
@@evkx exactly. And no 800V either :(
@qman6610 ай бұрын
Not true just yet
@ericroe10 ай бұрын
@@evkx No, those are V4 Superchargers. Tesla calls them V4, it's just fans think V4's are higher power.
@乂10 ай бұрын
This is probably a good business decision in the long run
@RadDadisRad10 ай бұрын
As a Ford EV owner I agree.
@80780010 ай бұрын
For Tesla? Not sure. Access to Tesla SC has been one of the reasons why people choose Tesla over other EVs. So, this would certainly have an impact in Tesla sales, which I think is greater than the revenue from charging other EV using SC. I mean, Tesla was giving free access to SC on its early days, EVs is where the money at. Of course, this could also increase Tesla's brand awareness. So, overall? Dunno.
@tavi710 ай бұрын
@@807800Better charging networks will start popping up it’s just a matter of time. So Tesla bringing car manufacturers to their network and charging standard makes any new standard adoption more difficult. So they are securing the future of NACS which in addition to the revenue generated from charging is a way bigger win long term than the loss in sales which is already minimal from the lack of competition. Tesla is always thinking long term
@woooshbait969610 ай бұрын
@@807800imagine all gas station own by tesla. Yeah sht ton of profit
@441meatloaf10 ай бұрын
Charging ports should be universal in the fist place....the fact every manufacturer does their own thing is like Apple only using lightning vs USB-C......eventually all charging networks are forced to use the same adapter.
@linkpaivichit76515 ай бұрын
This video was THE MOST informative for EV charging that we’d come across. And that’s saying a lot. So great job! I don’t know what measure of success you could enjoy within this subject matter if you were to continue to post this type of content, but I’d wager you’d be one of the best!!
@openevents10 ай бұрын
In europe the tesla-chargers were open for a while now, the price difference is about the same, but non-tesla drivers can get a monthly subscription for $12, and then get tesla-pricing on non-tesla's. I'd guess something like this will be available in the US as well.
@JaSon-wc4pn10 ай бұрын
Uk home charge is £0.40 a kwh America has cheap electricity at 6 pence
@korvaE145610 ай бұрын
uk has a price cap of 0.28, north europe has 6-10 cents per kWh. The Average Electricity Rate in the U.S. is 15.73 cents@@JaSon-wc4pn
@kjkromm10 ай бұрын
They do $12.99 month
@Timberjagi6 ай бұрын
In Europe they also mainly use the CCB connecter, so no messing with the adapters
10 ай бұрын
In Norway you can pay for a subscription on Tesla chargers to get the same rate as Tesla owners. It’s about 13$ per month.
@greghudson971710 ай бұрын
In Australia the monthly sub for non Tesla's is AU$9.99 (US$6.60) BUT... If you don't subscribe the kWh fee is AU$0.85c/kWh compared to the Tesla owner price of AU$0.70c/kWh (THE most expensive in Australia).
@montgomeryeglinton9 ай бұрын
Same available in U.S. now. $12.99 month for Supercharging Membership that allows non-Tesla owners to charge at the reduced rate per kWh.
@techkernels10 ай бұрын
Jerry's vids are so good, they are informative and genuinely calming to watch, especially the car vids
@JerryRigEverything10 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@bradbeckett380010 ай бұрын
Agreed. Love the content
@the.mikeyy10 ай бұрын
Zack's videos are also this good.
@chrisroberts396310 ай бұрын
Nah, he moans about Tesla having a 30% markup for non Teslas and then goes on to say the Electrify America price would be so much greater. Sorry, the Tesla network is one of the benefits of buying a Tesla. When can we expect Ford to have their hi-speed charging network that Tesla owners can use?
@Landoftheignorant10 ай бұрын
All the vids are like this.
@davehulett561210 ай бұрын
excellent review. you covered several aspects the other reviewers missed. One, the length of the cord. (Your Mom could have backed up another 2 feet!) and two the cost. That Tesla charges more for electricity for non-Tesla customers, doesn't concern me. the comparison prices you show are very helpful. Third, your comment about how many non-Tesla's there are on the road vs existing Tesla vehicles is important to note. can't wait to get my adaptor. Thanks!
@moultonlavagaming10 ай бұрын
I’m thinking there might be another variable he didn’t realize in the video. What if his mom is paying the 13 dollar fee to get the reduction in the cost
@computersales10 ай бұрын
I may have missed it but if memory serves correct you can pay Tesla a monthly rate to get the charging rates that Tesla owners get.
@kennyb12310 ай бұрын
Not through Ford's plug and charge, however. There's been no confirmation you can enable a supercharger for a Ford EV through the Tesla app, but it would be great if you could.
@computersales10 ай бұрын
@@kennyb123 checked my app. It is 12.99 a month for a non Tesla charging membership. I don't see how they would stop other non Tesla's from using that adapter when it looks to be the same thing they have in their magic dock.
@SirSilvia10 ай бұрын
Also, 47cents vs the 6cents at home, that monthly subscription is still costing you money. IF the station works with your vehicle. And if you are daily driving or making frequent long trips in anything but a widely compatible charging network, you're not buying a ford.
@computersales10 ай бұрын
@@SirSilvia if the cost savings per kilowatt exceeds the monthly subscription rate it would totally be worth it. Plus anyone doing truck stuff wouldn't buy a Tesla anyways.
@CyberTankMan10 ай бұрын
Yupp. $12.99 per month. Worth it even if you charge a non Tesla 1 or 2 times per month
@GTechOfficial10 ай бұрын
Now we've even got dongles for our cars! What will we think of next lol
@thomasreese281610 ай бұрын
This will apply to a tiny number of cars ~400k. Most will come witha NACS port next year. Better to standardize now than never
@Dogappel10 ай бұрын
Dongles for brain
@JohnSmith-pn2vl10 ай бұрын
in europe pretty much every car has and charger is CCS, a standard is just great
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat10 ай бұрын
dongles for brains 💀💀
@SayAhh10 ай бұрын
@ih_yt 25-year rule for imports might be less attractive for imported EVs from Europe in the future
@comanderpie10 ай бұрын
Just make it type C
@randomchannel93315 ай бұрын
I can just imagine a giant type c port lol
@LanternEnergy11 күн бұрын
lol you’ll get .03 per kWh😅 it’ll take you 5 weeks to get to 80% 😅
@jman78110 ай бұрын
Watched many videos on this and you're the first to mention the higher rate. Thanks
@rubricen10 ай бұрын
Tesla have had open chargers in Norway for 2 years. I frequently charge my Renault there.
@-EchoesIntoEternity-10 ай бұрын
how well do EVs handle those Norwegian winters?
@rubricen10 ай бұрын
@@gentle285 I have noe idea. Some Tesla,s have free charging. But prises are generally low for me compared to other chargers.
@jorismak10 ай бұрын
Tesla's are forced to use the same EU plug other car makes are using as far as I know, or you get a converter with it or something. Charging stations for a single brand of car are just not allowed here :).
@MegaWilderness10 ай бұрын
@@jorismakAll countries should adopt this law. A kWh is a kWh
@rubricen10 ай бұрын
correct, CCS plug - all cars have that now.@@jorismak
@alanl351110 ай бұрын
Here in Glendale Arizona we have a supercharger station that is fully magic dock as well.. as a Tesla owner It’s pretty strange to drive by the supercharger and see ford Mach E’s, Audi etron’s and Rivian’s charging at a Tesla supercharger…
@ShubhayooBanerjee10 ай бұрын
Jerry's voice is so calming...he is my source of white noise while studying
@ShubhayooBanerjee10 ай бұрын
@@xploration1437 ik...I have a bad habit of calling youtubers by their channel names
@Lithium5910 ай бұрын
@@xploration1437so then why is the channel called jerryrigeverything? Just asking
@TRYtoHELPyou10 ай бұрын
super happy to see they moved forward with this
@anthonyb315510 ай бұрын
This is exactly what Ford and every other electric car manufacturer needs. A LARGE and RELIABLE charging network is a must. The one thing that kept me away from a mustang ev or any other non-Tesla vehicle was the issues with Electrify America. Great decision by ford and hopefully this just helps expand the Tesla network further with the added income of Ford EV’s.
@Christoff81889 ай бұрын
I'd never heard of Not A Wheelchair before... As someone who spends ~30% of my life in one, this could be a game changer! Will have to save up for one for sure. 😁 Also, between finding your company in this video, and the horse one... You get a subscribe. So wholesome!
@logitech48738 ай бұрын
I think he currently has a $1000 off deal thingy, he mentioned that in a recent video.
@mocheen48379 ай бұрын
I have free supercharging for 6 months on my wife’s Tesla Model Y Performance. Most people that supercharge do not have any etiquette. 99% of the people open their doors and leave them open while walking to the back to attach the charger. I have received two door dents from people doing this. When I approach them and say something they run off or say there is no damage. I already spent $300 removing the two door dents. People are so rude and have no accountability. It only takes two seconds to close your door when you exit the vehicle. Most people cannot be bothered by this. I also see people driving up not looking to see if there are people waiting for the next available charger and cutting the line. Most of this is just plain and simple common sense.
@dennyclawson488910 ай бұрын
You have some of the best informational videos. Keep up the great work.
@DThaker10 ай бұрын
I love your content, precise and also factually correct! The price aspect is very accurate.
@kengarrett221110 ай бұрын
Thanks for making a to the point video of this lightning. Great point about the free adapter being free just for a few months. I could see a lightning drive over the curb to get to the last charger on the right
@BrysonWooden10 ай бұрын
As a Tesla owner, I'm excited to see the charging network open up for more vehicles. All cable lengths will need some work though...
@supreme_xenon10 ай бұрын
In the future don't get mad when you can't charge your Tesla because the Supercharger station is full with non-Tesla cars 😂
@Npc1001010 ай бұрын
Admitting to owning a Tesla😂
@BrysonWooden10 ай бұрын
@@Npc10010 millions of them on the road. I’ve owned mine for 4 years and it’s a great vehicle.
@AsianDrag0n10 ай бұрын
@@Npc10010 my mom has a model 3
@gabrielgingras81410 ай бұрын
@@supreme_xenon Not that big an impact given the amount of superchargers they've been building. Also, I count 1 Tesla where I live for each other EV.
@coin77710 ай бұрын
5:15 old habits die hard 😂 shaking the gas pump
@martinbeaumier717210 ай бұрын
Next manufacturers need to establish a standard for charge port location
@Wheeljack2k10 ай бұрын
Car manufacturers haven't been able to decide whether to put the gas cap on the left or on the right side for over 100 years. I'm not getting my hopes up. And making the charger cables longer will probably just attract copper thieves.
@davidr324610 ай бұрын
I’d rather that charging stations mimic gas stations, pull through style and with canopy. Then it won’t matter where each vehicle’s charge port is.
@dillonh32110 ай бұрын
@@davidr3246 I think as more money gets invested into the infrastructure and large EV trucks get more popular we will eventually get there.
@asdfasdfasdfasdeff10 ай бұрын
I've been to that charging station in the middle of the day during winter during a road trip. It was busy as hell and cars were confused as to where to line up and wait. Then after waiting, I pulled into a stall with a broken charger that wasn't labeled broken. Guess what, I had to awkwardly ask the people in the new line (that didn't even see me) if I could cut ahead when one opened. So yeah, adding to that now a truck that is taking up two spots that would be even worse lol. honestly they shoud include some sort of cable extension with those adapters at least but I realize that woudl probably up the cost quite a bit more.
@tylergood122310 ай бұрын
Hopefully Tesla Deploys more chargers soon
@thomasreese281610 ай бұрын
They can't extend the cables. They are liquid cooled and couldn't handle additional length. V4 superchargers should eliminate the issue and be the majority of chargers next year
@hareeshkrishnaa564210 ай бұрын
This is just for CCS-NACS conversion From 2025, Ford will have NACS by default and will be redesigned in such a way that it won't cause any problem
@SodaPopin5ki10 ай бұрын
@@tylergood1223they're continuing to add them. They added over 12,000 Superchargers last year.
@tylergood122310 ай бұрын
@@SodaPopin5ki was that in the USA or world?
@classmassgrass8 ай бұрын
Wow, I appreciate you for letting me know about the adapter. I was looking around for awhile for a fast charging adapter and didn't know where to get one and niw injust reserved mine for free ...thanks Jerry👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@1Ricky10 ай бұрын
“Charging a FORD EV at a Tesla supercharger” **Unexpected Collab**
@Dankflamio10 ай бұрын
Haha
@leviackerman242410 ай бұрын
All while wearing a Rivian hoodie!
@LincolnBerryIII10 ай бұрын
That reflexive shake of the charger plug at 5:14 as if it were a conventional gas nozzle... 😏
@slacmd10 ай бұрын
am I the only one that thought this $200 adapter is going to be stolen all across the country? no connector locking or anything.. I hope ford owners stay with their cars.
@nguyenhanh947910 ай бұрын
no good deed goes unpunished in america 😂
@GeraldMMonroe10 ай бұрын
It isn't locked by the port? I use an adapter that goes the other way and the port locks it in place
@slacmd10 ай бұрын
@@GeraldMMonroe you may be correct. But do you need a key to remove a charger from the port? It looks like Zach just did it with a button?
@Jack-92F3EB0210 ай бұрын
@@slacmdI imagine that unlock button only works when the car itself is unlocked.
@ultrastoat329810 ай бұрын
Buy a car with native NACS port and you don’t have this problem
@gcslade10 ай бұрын
Great information Zack. Your Mom has the same Model Y as I have (nice color choice). What I found amazing is you were able to find not one, but many stalls open at the Draper, Utah Supercharger location. Every time I try to charge there, I'm in a waiting line. If a few Ford trucks show up taking up two stalls, and there is a long line of elitist minded Tesla owners, it will likely get a bit dicey and uncomfortable for the Ford owners. 🙂
@ledzeppelin121210 ай бұрын
As a Tesla owner, I'm glad Tesla is doing this...but I'll probably be eating my own words once I have to wait in line because a few Fords are hogging an entire row of chargers!
@lambocars10 ай бұрын
It is special that in the USA you can only now charge Tesla with other brands. We have been able to charge with other brands at Tesla here in the Netherlands for over 2 years. Almost all cars here have the 3-phase CCS plug, so you don't have to work with an adapter here. My small Peugeot E208 has the plug on the left, so I don't have 2 spaces occupied.
@noliver791310 ай бұрын
Yeah, our settling into a defacto standard took a while, but IMO it is and was worth it for SAE J3400 (NACS). Lots of neat advantages over the CCS1 specification.
@GregHassler10 ай бұрын
In Norway, Ford is putting the charge port on the other side where that blank is now in the US.
@blcjck812110 ай бұрын
It really should be just like gas stations are now. Where everyone can "fill up" everywhere and prices are displayed and pretty much equal for all customers.
@juanramongonzalez992110 ай бұрын
The difference is these were built by Tesla and were a massive investment and gamble on the future which paid off
@blcjck812110 ай бұрын
@@juanramongonzalez9921 Indeed. However there are also plenty of superchargers in Europe, but there anyone must be able to charge at any charger. Ofc. prices differ based on subscriptions etc.
@ObserverZero10 ай бұрын
@@juanramongonzalez9921 When you want change, often times you have to break things, sorry... Just don't lose sleep over anguishing CEOs who thinks the world is so unfair
@Sale2322210 ай бұрын
It is not necessarily 2 spots taken if there is another Ford or Non-Tesla, it can park next to you and take the charger from your parking spot. In that case only one spot is wasted (first car in a row).
@saibopengke7710 ай бұрын
Wish we could have seen some content of Zack getting his lightning/what he plans to use it for/what he thinks after driving it for a long time. Glad to finally see it in this video though!
@noelt387410 ай бұрын
In Sweden is every Tesla Supercharger open for every electric car and no adapter is needed because they are all ccs.
@stbr051010 ай бұрын
Have been seeing F150s charging at the superchargers In Monticello, MN for months now. Pretty awesome deal for our TSLA stock
@Jonas5431210 ай бұрын
I did not know, it happend now in america. Here in Germany and EU This is completely normal since long time.
@sbomorse10 ай бұрын
In the UK any car can use Tesla chargers but only so many are open to other brands. They all have CCS2 in the UK.
@geraldshillingford314110 ай бұрын
thank you so much Jerry, i own a FORD mach E, and this is a big help thank for the info.... PS i love your channel.
@pikeyMcBarkin10 ай бұрын
car manufacturer's cooperating is something we have not seen before. Very nice to see. Thanks for covering this topic.
@Xyler9410 ай бұрын
Car companies cooperate a lot actually. Ford's 10 speed automatic transmission is a collab effort between Ford and GM actually.
@Apollo-Computers10 ай бұрын
My 2000 Ford f150 sport had a Mazda 5 speed manual transmission. Does that count?
@agent-70010 ай бұрын
Congrats! We have had that in Sweden for years. Good to see the US ”growing up”.
@mitchellsteindler10 ай бұрын
It was forced in europe. Not forced here.
@agent-70010 ай бұрын
Let’s hope all gets better!
@BrandonDoyleMN10 ай бұрын
Very cool, nice to see the manufacturers working together
@Yielar110 ай бұрын
That's awsome! Nice to see Ford choosing to adopt the NACS charging port before any other manufacturer and starting the transition to the better charging network and port.
@carexpert_de10 ай бұрын
They have the same model of pricing in Europe, unless you get a subscription of I think 12€ or $13 per month in order to receive the same prices as any other Tesla vehicle!
@RadDadisRad10 ай бұрын
I love having a Mach E. I also love how mad everyone gets about EVs for no rational reason.
@NGabunchanumbers10 ай бұрын
Because EVs are: 1. Bad for the environment (when you factor in pollution due to production and power generation in the U.S.) 2. Guaranteed to fail in ten years, unlike ICE vehicles (though maybe GM's battery system will be replaceable, yet to be seen) 3. Much heavier, resulting in damage to roads 4. Much heavier, resulting in a longer stopping distance and therefore worse safety for those outside the vehicle. 5. Unnecessary, as hybrids exist and are objectively better.
@ToblerX10 ай бұрын
Love my Mach E as well. Amazing vehicle.
@comicrandomness328910 ай бұрын
I hate how the mach e uses the mustang name. I don't hate the car itself. And yes I'm a mustang owner.
@ToblerX10 ай бұрын
@@comicrandomness3289 I bought mine in 2021, so earlier than most. There was a guy in my neighborhood who would scream at me every time he saw me drive by (I have the obnoxious blue GT version, very easy to spot.) I don't get the hate. The GT is insanely fast and embodies the pure adrenaline of the Mustang. I love the ICE mustang too, both are amazing. If you identify the Mustang as a "muscle car", then I can see the point, but then we have to address the entire 80s models, which, well do I even have to say it?
@adityamessiah6910 ай бұрын
I hate EVs because it's a hoax, and the US itself manufacturing such heavy EVs doesn't make any difference for the environment instead makes it worse
@farmerdielawn7517 ай бұрын
I will be using this exact charging location for my Lightning! I just started watching your channel and was surprised to see you in my stomping grounds XD
@imjody10 ай бұрын
Oh shiiiiit, good sharing the knowledge with us. I love that Tesla's making money off of the charging of other vehicles other than their own, but is still providing Tesla owners a big enough discount to show 'em the extra love. This is perfect if you ask me. +30% is bang on, so as the Superchargers aren't eventually taken over by non-Tesla's in years to come. 😎This was a good watch through and through!
@dianahartley-kim710910 ай бұрын
As a soon to be Tesla owner, I am happy to see charging networks open up. We do need a better charging infrastructure.
@someoneelse693410 ай бұрын
You say that now but once you are repeatedly greeted by no open charging spots (because they are filled with non-Teslas)…
@moultonlavagaming10 ай бұрын
@@someoneelse6934Tesla continues to keep adding more charging stations so shouldn’t an issue.
@RickyLourenco10 ай бұрын
car takes up two spots, different costs, possible port on there side. great info in only 5 minutes!
@squrrll10 ай бұрын
Really it's only n+1 spots, 9 Fords would only need 10 spots if they lined up nicely.
@joep.880510 ай бұрын
You need to keep an orange cone in the truck to block off the stall that is unused.
@zzdroz10 ай бұрын
Will there be any bunker update soon?
@TechnicallyJeff10 ай бұрын
This is pretty great. Can't wait till all manufacturers have access. Tried tricking a Tesla Supercharger into thinking my Kia EV6 is a Ford using the app and the A2Z adapter yesterday, but it didn't work unfortunately.
@noliver791310 ай бұрын
3:49 I've used that charger! Was 43¢/kWh for my Model Y 2 years ago. Its important to watch the rates as they change by demand (e.g. time of day).
@spyboyb32110 ай бұрын
There is a tesla membership for I believe around $12 a month that allows you to charge at the same price as a tesla.
@jorismak10 ай бұрын
We pay 0.241 EURO-cents per kWh at our home. Those 6cts prices are crazy. We pay at least 0.42 euro-cts per kWh at the public charging places that are scattered throughout the neighbourhood. But often prices increase due to the charging subscription you have, so you can pay easily up to 0.76 euro-cts per kWh. And I can't use the solar from my house because I don't have a driveway to park my car on my own personal property (it's normal over here).
@squrrll10 ай бұрын
On the bright side of taking up two stalls, if there are more than one Ford vehicles charging, in theory they only take up n+1 stalls, since if they are next to each other they can use the otherwise blocked charger.
@BrandEver11710 ай бұрын
EA used to be pretty reasonable, but they jacked up their prices recently. You can pay a monthly membership for a 25%ish discount, but that discount isn't always available at certain locations during busy hours and they make it very difficult/impossible to see what the prices are until you are charging.
@LJLion10 ай бұрын
EA in San Antonio is charging .48¢ /kw. Pretty pricey considering I can charge at home for .12¢
@tabottietjen318610 ай бұрын
I've charged my Teslas at the Draper Supercharger many times on my trips to Vegas and Arizona. It's usually pretty full so maybe I should look to other Superchargers from now on
@Jobey_9910 ай бұрын
30% markup while the charging infrastructure grows seems fine, I'm more worried when EVs take over am I going to have to search for my branded charger to get the best rate?
@rud10 ай бұрын
Since all cars will be using the same plug, you will be free to charge wherever you want and find the best value. It is still a maturing marked riddled with odd plans, apps and subscriptions and I agree that it is tiresome to have to look at 5 different apps to make sure you get the right price. I am not from the US but it seems it is a world wide problem. I was at a conference centre for a day and charged my car at a L2 charger so I could drive home without having to stop on the way. It took 7 hours to charge to full but that was fine. The problems was that there were 2 companies and when I disovered the other chargers, I noticed they were 20% cheaper. So I went out and moved to the cheaper ones.
@mariogirod619510 ай бұрын
Here in Europe Tesla started opening up there Supercharger Network to all EVs about 2 Years ago. But The EU also enforced the CCS2 charter for all vehicles so no adapters needed.
@YourTransmissionRepair10 ай бұрын
I don't know what they do, but Tesla also has an operations center in Draper at 12832 Frontrunner Blvd.
@6382steve9 ай бұрын
2:18 - Most of the superchargers I have encountered are set up like this, which has me quite concerned, especially since where I live (so Cal.) they are already crowded as it is.
@4RILDIGITAL10 ай бұрын
Really interesting to see how this unfolds. The transition to universal charging could revolutionize the EV industry.
@aponglkr689710 ай бұрын
Agent 47 is on a secret mission!! "Operation Tesla"
@robertsteich736210 ай бұрын
Jerry, can you go back and "dry fit" the cable to the passenger side? With the current driver's side, that cable barely reaches. However, the cable from the SC comes out of the right side of the station. Thus with you parked on the right side of the station AND with the NASC to CCS adapter, it reaches. However, if you were to park on the left side, as Teslas do, of the station and plug directly into the passenger side with NASC. Do you think it'll reach? Because the cable from the SC is still coming out of the right side of the station and no adapter.
@JoseHernandez-gl9ef10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, Stalls are made for Teslas remember others brands think Elon Bad, so they wanted CCS vs. The NACS. Tesla made that adapter you guys are using. charging port location should be standard, too, because you shouldn't be taking two spots. Also, that 30% cost will help Tesla add more charging stations for both Teslas and non tesla users. Oh and thanks for bringing up the cost from other non tesla networks.
@ironqqq10 ай бұрын
Tesla developed their network to support Tesla cars and each purchase of a Tesla, part of that cost goes to building the network. The extra 30% is to make up that contribution to the network. The alternative is to purchase the Tesla monthly subscription to get the same rates. I think it's ~ $13, so after a couple of charging sessions, you'd break even at the $0.11 differential.
@ledzeppelin121210 ай бұрын
Yeah, sounds like a fair mark-up to me. I paid extra for my Tesla so that I could use the stations, while Fords did not. If Tesla thinks charging them a few extra cents is fair, then it sounds good to me!
@mark8242110 ай бұрын
0.74 Pounds per kW when I charge at some charging stations in Scotland (if you can find one....... :-) and 'free' from home when the sun shines (and yes it can be very sunny here)
@Pedrojfajardo10 ай бұрын
Nice. Never knew you were in Utah until this video. Best regards
@HOFFERN34210 ай бұрын
Here in Norway, and the rest of Europe other car owners can pay a small fee per month, 12 dollars or something, to use the Superchargers with the same rates as Teslas. if you road trip a lot, it might be worth paying for the subscription. No adapters needed here though.. all Tesla chargers are equipped with the same newer CCS standard we have here (differs from the US one).
@Tompradoo10 ай бұрын
They've done this in Sweden for a good while now 😊 any EV can charge at Teslas stations here so long as they bring the necessary adapters.
@ultrastoat329810 ай бұрын
Don’t need adapters in Europe they were forced to consolidate around CCS 2. Sucks to be them.
@Tompradoo10 ай бұрын
@@ultrastoat3298 I own a Tesla and I need to use an adapter at most Tesla chargers since my car has type 2 (as many others) and most Tesla SuC today has CCS connectors.
@Tompradoo10 ай бұрын
@@ultrastoat3298 I drive a Tesla and I need an adapter! My car has the type 2 connector and most Tesla SuC uses CCS connectors today so I use the conversion adapter to charge.
@ultrastoat329810 ай бұрын
@@TompradooSo you are using a CCS to CCS2 adapter?
@Tompradoo10 ай бұрын
@@ultrastoat3298 the car has the type 2 connector (mennekes) and most chargers use the CCS2 so, I need to put a conversion adapter between the charger and the car.
@Autocreatorz10 ай бұрын
Tesla did the work now everyone wants to use there stuff to make there products more appealing
@timvandijknl10 ай бұрын
In the Netherlands using a public fast charger costs between 65 and 90 eurocents per kwh, which is about $0.7 - $0.97; so $0.45 doesn't seem so bad 😅
@constant_runner10 ай бұрын
In the UK Tesla had opened up some of their superchargers well over a year ago. Being a Tesla owner I generally don't have issues with this but I will say it can be inconvenient for most EV users when a car takes up two spaces to charge as the charging port is on the opposite side. I've been caught out a few times waiting for 2 cars to stop charging and taking up all 4 spots. Tesla need to make their charging cables longer as this has an impact on all users.
@human_brian10 ай бұрын
It'll be really good once they get the J3400 ports on all future EVs. The V4 super charging stations have a much longer whip so it'll be much less likely to need to take up 2 spots when charging vehicles even with the ports on the "wrong" side.
@danny208YT10 ай бұрын
Tesla is the way to go. Such an outstanding company. They changed the world and got people to actually buy electric . Tesla for life.
@Legominder10 ай бұрын
This has been available in Europe for years - however here the fast charging standard is CCS anyways, also Model 3 has never seen any other plug;)
@omarastacio393910 ай бұрын
Thank you, you are the only creator that has included prices. One caveat, your home charging is likely not $0.06 per KWH, it is likely the cost of the commodity plus you pay per KWH to have it delivered. Don't forget to factor that in when you evaluate your pricing. That being said it is still less than 1/2 price to charge at home.
@johnpoldo881710 ай бұрын
Yes, most utilities have a generation fee and a distribution fee. Add to that taxes and other fees raises the total cost well over 10 cents per kWh in many areas.
@AW27s9310 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this! Just reserved mine
@travelchoice8910 ай бұрын
⚡🚗 Exploring the compatibility between Ford EVs and Tesla Superchargers! It's great to see the ease of charging, making electric vehicle ownership more accessible. 🔌👍
@brentfromsomewhere10 ай бұрын
Your home electricity rate is awesome. Here in Maine, the rate depends on how much you use. The more you use (up to a point) the cheaper it is. The state average is about 28 cents per KWH, but can go quite a bit higher if you don't use a lot. So basically, if you try to save money by using less electricity, they just charge you more per KWH.
@Vapourized9010 ай бұрын
Meanwhile in EU Tesla SC's are mostly available to all EV's and it doesn't need gimmics like adapters. CCS works for all, including Tesla. Unfortunately Tesla SC is on the more expensive side to charge, so it's not the first choice. Other chains also have better charging network, at least here.
@blueskiesflyer10 ай бұрын
its $.56/kwh on the east coast to charge a non tesla at a tesla supercharger and EAs dc chargers come ahead when considering the price.
@JWPappas10 ай бұрын
Ok when are you doing the Ford Adapter Durability Test and Teardown?
@GhostCod10 ай бұрын
It’s designed, engineered, and manufactured by Tesla, not Ford.
@homermorisson913510 ай бұрын
Unrelated: first time I've actually seen your channel today and right now your wheelchair on the deck of your truck.... holy crap, that thing would be a dream come true, maybe I could even ride the stairs up and down on such a machine, that would be such a dream come true... as I live on the 3rd floor and this house doesn't have an elevator, I haven't actually been able to go outside for years... only the odd hospital visit when there's no longer any other choice, but other than that, I'm utterly and completely socially isolated and a prisoner in my own home... if only I could afford a stair-climbing wheelchair... to feel the wind again, be among people again... but I guess I better not get my hopes up again, there's only so many times one can bear one's spirit being crushed...
@notawheelchair10 ай бұрын
thats a dang good looking truck!
@MathiasA100010 ай бұрын
in Sweden and the rest of EU the the Tesla charger has been open for another car brand for a long time now.
@taknmyshot10 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for keeping it short. Love the $.30 premium. Well worth it when you show up at an inoperable EA station. 😢
@Derkaramma10 ай бұрын
That’s the same adapter that Rivian is sending us! Super excited
@iamweave10 ай бұрын
It's not that we are worried about you taking up two spots but more that that won't be reflected in the app so if a site is effectively full we won't have the info to go to another site possibly. For example you are charging on 3D but parked in front of 3C. That 3C is not in use and will be counted as available when Teslas are looking at their map.
@alialamzadeh10 ай бұрын
you can pay a membership cost and the price will be the same as Tesla owner pricing. Membership I believe is $13/month, it is good for people who supercharge often.
@Lee_Proffit10 ай бұрын
If Ford do fit the charging port on the other side, then you would only take up the single bay - forward planning 🙂
@CallLeeFree10 ай бұрын
Great video! Based on everything I've seen on charging EV's, I think I'll wait another decade before buying one.