Hand crank leather splitter - Do you need one?

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CHARTERMADE

CHARTERMADE

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@MountainFisher
@MountainFisher 3 жыл бұрын
My splitter is 4 1/3 inches or 10.3 centimeters wide. I hand strope it with 12,000 grit diamond compound and I can hand split 10 centimeters easily for wallets. It isn't a roller, you have to pull through a roller, but for wallets or belts it works just fine. The trick is to keep it mirror polished which 12,000 grit does. Just an inexpensive Tandy splitter, just strope the thing. I made hardness scratchers and the blade that comes with it is at least 59 HRC so my 59 won't scratch it, but my 60.3 does. Plenty hard enough. My scratchers go from 55 to 56.5 to 57.6 to 59, 60.3 and 62. FYI; HRC 59 is 10X harder than HRC 58, it is exponential like the seismic scale. I started leatherworking by knife making and I needed to make sheaths and found I like leather work even more than knife making. LOL
@leathertoolz
@leathertoolz 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Terrick, for the video! I am looking for such a machine for long time.
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jun, you are welcome.
@FR3EKELITE
@FR3EKELITE 3 жыл бұрын
Leathertoolz did you ever find one? And how much do these run? AKA price
@friscokid66
@friscokid66 3 жыл бұрын
This is some great info, thank you. While these machines seem essential for any serious leather worker, I’m just a little put off by how much tweaking it might require to get them to work efficiently. I was also surprised at how expensive they were, considering they are manually driven machines.
@Capt.sierra
@Capt.sierra 3 жыл бұрын
The secret is to be an expert in sharpening the blade to My respect 👍🏼
@dmail00
@dmail00 5 жыл бұрын
I like the way you can resplit the leather to get the size/weight you want. With my none crank C.S Osborne 84 it is not that simple, as you need a tab to pull the leather through which reduces the length of the leather on every split.
@pequodexpress
@pequodexpress 5 жыл бұрын
I have been wanting to see how well this Chinese splitter works. Thank you.
@annwaters9484
@annwaters9484 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best information that I have seen on working, adjusting and how to fix problems with my hand crank splitter. THANK YOU!
@annwaters9484
@annwaters9484 5 жыл бұрын
I also very much appreciated the information on what a hollow ground blade is and how it works.
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 5 жыл бұрын
glad it was helpful for you. thanks for letting us know.
@cristianariton1032
@cristianariton1032 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I will apply the adjustments I just learnt.
@pequodexpress
@pequodexpress 2 жыл бұрын
I've decided to go with a bell knife skiver, even for larger panels.
@VeganSmasher
@VeganSmasher 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you for sharing your experience and recommendations!
@twomorestitchesleatherwork1527
@twomorestitchesleatherwork1527 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you even need such a machine?" "Let me talk about the blade and how ridiculously sharp I made it... cause you know - I'm Terrick and I can sharpen a napkin to cut a train rail" Damn you, Terrick and your superhuman abilities. Now I need one of these.
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, I enjoyed reading your comment. I appreciate it. Happy crafting
@joeljimenez8560
@joeljimenez8560 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information.
@karlalbiston429
@karlalbiston429 5 жыл бұрын
As always, your videos are so informative. Thank you!
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, much appreciated
@darrenlafreniere5518
@darrenlafreniere5518 5 жыл бұрын
Hello from Canada! Thanks for the great info.
@gypsycruiser
@gypsycruiser 9 ай бұрын
So helpful , just purchased a similar splitter..arriving within the hour and this was such a coincidence. Could I get my blade to you? I am in Cape Town.
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 9 ай бұрын
Hi. good to hear from you. can you send me an email chartermade@gmail.com and we can chat :)
@christerjegbert32
@christerjegbert32 3 жыл бұрын
Do you manufacture enhanced lining blades? I'll buy one! ..just need a splitter machine first 😅
@ForsakenAngel236
@ForsakenAngel236 5 жыл бұрын
Nice and clear, thank you!
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, appreciate it.
@arte-viajero-SUD
@arte-viajero-SUD 8 ай бұрын
GENIAL, DE ARGENTINA
@bobdole4182
@bobdole4182 8 ай бұрын
I have one of these for sale that I have no idea where to find a buyer for... Landis, videos will be uploaded on my page of the splitters movements to show it isn't locked up.. would like a grand but will take appx 5-600 if someone purchases this week
@heddaacevedo
@heddaacevedo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing...
@ironforgeleather4250
@ironforgeleather4250 4 жыл бұрын
This one still has me questioning if I should get one. I have plenty of off cuts, and I have been manually skiving but that only does so much.
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 4 жыл бұрын
If you are able to work through the machine adjustments they can be very useful. After a while changing the spring tensions and bottom roller height for different leathers becomes quite easy.
@4apples
@4apples 2 жыл бұрын
Did you reprofile the original blade, or make a new one ? :)
@fchungry
@fchungry 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid.
@levanjgarkava9992
@levanjgarkava9992 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I'm from Georgia (caucasus) wen I can bay this skiwing machin.
@peterujfalusi2764
@peterujfalusi2764 4 жыл бұрын
Cudos, man, you know what you‘re doing!
@ayasugihada
@ayasugihada 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Terrick! Great info in your video as always. Did you have to change the blade angle as well? What angles did you use? Did you put a facet on the blade's edge as per your drawing? Thanks a ton!
@psycholocke4090
@psycholocke4090 5 жыл бұрын
the hollow grind reminds me of my shaving knive. realy nice explanation. i had similar issues with my first hand plane and it took about 10 hours of work to get it performing. by the way. do leatherworkers use things like a hand plane to thin down leather? like you do with your scarving (?) knive?
@andreleonard4754
@andreleonard4754 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m in the market for a machine like this but I need it to split my Leather very thin. I’m willing to make the upgrade with the blade. Can you grind a blade down for me, if I send one to you?
@whiterhinosudan6049
@whiterhinosudan6049 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely need and will get one ( just if someone can confirm with me that it split Chromexcel??)
@shellysun5348
@shellysun5348 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for the video! Does it work for soft leather?
@hollybeck5403
@hollybeck5403 4 жыл бұрын
Can this be used for chrome tanned finished leather
@glamb691
@glamb691 5 ай бұрын
Do you hollow grind blade for customers?
@Djwhynotlove
@Djwhynotlove 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on a hollow blade sharpening
@brunomelli4679
@brunomelli4679 3 жыл бұрын
Just by curiosity, what do you do with the side of leather that comes out at the bottom? Is it usable or just waste?
@ayasugihada
@ayasugihada 2 жыл бұрын
One of the things you can use it is to create raised effect on belts or watchstraps. You sandwich a narrower piece of leather like this between two wider grain leather pieces and stitch it together. Or you can create a leather dust from it, combine it with glue and do essentialy the same thing when doing embossed carvings.
@trimoanggoro8120
@trimoanggoro8120 4 жыл бұрын
Is this tool used to thin the pull up leather?
@DLSWV
@DLSWV 5 жыл бұрын
Thank. Need sees that. 👍😉
@joyfulpawprints3781
@joyfulpawprints3781 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Can you tell me the maximum width of leather that can be split not the thickness but width I am looking for something for about 5inches wide.
@matthewdenty7760
@matthewdenty7760 4 жыл бұрын
I use my bench belt sander lol
@gajananghule7016
@gajananghule7016 Жыл бұрын
Leather work
@gilvancarlosdiassilva1307
@gilvancarlosdiassilva1307 Жыл бұрын
Bom dia bom por quanto que você vende uma máquina dessa daí
@Abdulrasheed-ko8fe
@Abdulrasheed-ko8fe 6 ай бұрын
I need this machine how much price?
@carlos14896
@carlos14896 2 жыл бұрын
Hello were can I but one of those spitter machine
@fatimamahomed1178
@fatimamahomed1178 2 жыл бұрын
I want to buy one.please help
@tariqhassan387
@tariqhassan387 Жыл бұрын
Tapering can be done ?
@joealderete2470
@joealderete2470 Жыл бұрын
Can you use it for rawhide?
@yasarmevlutoglu776
@yasarmevlutoglu776 2 жыл бұрын
И сколько стоит такой инструмент ?
@CarlosGonzalez-bz2kd
@CarlosGonzalez-bz2kd 2 жыл бұрын
Cuanto me ciesta una de esas
@jaggersleather1973
@jaggersleather1973 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Could you please tell me what is the size of your blade? I think you didn't mention it.
@fatimamahomed1178
@fatimamahomed1178 2 жыл бұрын
I want to buy one how much
@adelineho7643
@adelineho7643 3 жыл бұрын
Is this able work on softer leather, like lamb skin leather?
@sigmann66
@sigmann66 3 жыл бұрын
Where do get the customized blades for these things?
@shripudkhemka9144
@shripudkhemka9144 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use softer chrome tan leather for splitting ?
@jdnaidoo2738
@jdnaidoo2738 3 жыл бұрын
Yes lm looking for a machine what's the price
@caida76
@caida76 Жыл бұрын
how can I buy this??
@kawonnowak
@kawonnowak 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Terrick, Philip here. I've got an Osborne splitter and find it near impossible to pull through leathers much wider than about three inches because of the amount of force necessary. Put too much effort into pulling and you can easily stretch the leather to the point where it can't be used. Short of resorting to hand skiving do you have any thoughts or advice on how to get around this problem? Thanks!
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Philip, this machine of mine has a 6" blade and to use the full blade length I have to get it razor sharp or it will buckle the leather. My general wide cut on this machine is 4 1/2 " and I don't like going much wider than that. Im not sure how possible it would be to get more than a 3" split on a pull through splitter even if you had a custom blade. If I remember those machines were used a lot by the old saddlery makers and would spilt very thick harness leather into "still thick" straps etc.
@kawonnowak
@kawonnowak 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terrick. Yes I guess I knew I was pretty much at the limit. I had to completely reprofile the blade to be able to split the widths I do now so unless someone comes up with a very clever way to drag the leather through mechanically... Thanks for the video, really interesting to see a hand cranked machine and how you've had to customise it to get the best results.
@dmail00
@dmail00 5 жыл бұрын
@@kawonnowak I have an 84 and I suppose the following would be would be true for an 86a yet not an 86; as the 84 and 86a are skivers as well as splitters. As I am sure you already know the blade has to be super sharp, the selection of the hide part I also find important. For example I would not try a wide split with belly or shoulder but rather back or butt; due to the nature of those parts of the hide. I start a wide split essentially as a tappered skive(only turned the other way), so that the blade is just entering the grain of the leather. Once the blade is into the leather I then move the blade while advancing the leather to give the size/weight of the split I want. It does take a good amount of force and when learning the operation of the machine I wasted a lot of leather. I have found this as the only way to split larger widths and the part of the hide that I am pulling is actually the off cut split so I don't worry about it stretching. Although to get a thin split
@kawonnowak
@kawonnowak 5 жыл бұрын
@@dmail00 Thanks - interesting to hear your approach, I'm still relatively new to my 84 so finding my way... What I have done though is completely reprofile the blade to remove the secondary bevel. The result is an extremely sharp but - inevitably - less robust edge but I don't mind re-touching it on the waterstones if I get a chip. Reprofiling it has gained me maybe 3/4 to 1 inch extra width (that can be pulled through with minimal effort) but it did take about 5 hours on the waterstones to take the secondary bevel out. I do know a long-time professional leather worker who rigged up a kind of mangle (two closely aligned rollers with a hand crank) immediately behind his splitter to pull through wider sections of leather evenly, but I'm not ready to start experimenting like that. Thanks again.
@wildlogen7684
@wildlogen7684 5 жыл бұрын
Hi terrick, I would like to buy these kind of tools from online pls help me with any particular websites
@docreaper6449
@docreaper6449 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I purchase one
@tomasreyes4010
@tomasreyes4010 3 жыл бұрын
Where I can buy it
@nicoladebernardis1934
@nicoladebernardis1934 3 жыл бұрын
DOVE SI COMPRA E QUANTO COSTA?
@michalsteyn4756
@michalsteyn4756 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Terick, Thank you for this, came exactly at the right time. Also in the market for one of these, but also for splitting wallet pieces. Is customising the blade a service you would offer? Thank you.
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 5 жыл бұрын
Are you in South Africa? If you are, drop me an email with your number: chartermade@gmail.com
@jeremieben4170
@jeremieben4170 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from France, It's possible to split chrome or double tan leather with this kind of splitter ? Thanks
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 4 жыл бұрын
This style of splitter was really made for thick veg, I can split chrome on mine after all the changes I made but the blade needs to be razor sharp. A bell skiver works much better on chrome. Not sure what double tan is
@jeremieben4170
@jeremieben4170 4 жыл бұрын
@@CHARTERMADE Thanks a lot for your answer. Double tan is chrome tan leather who is veg retanned.
@walterholmes4609
@walterholmes4609 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremieben4170 Double tan is another term for retan. Higher end chrome tanned hides are sometimes sent on to a veg tan finish.
@pedridelange6347
@pedridelange6347 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Terrick Where you from?
@Rsama60
@Rsama60 5 жыл бұрын
One question, how much would that splitter be?
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 5 жыл бұрын
No idea, I bought it many years ago. You will have to check with your local suppliers.
@wmcrash
@wmcrash 5 жыл бұрын
The version marketed in USA is the Cowboy 8116, so you're looking at about $1400 or so.
@nigelbaboolal5072
@nigelbaboolal5072 4 жыл бұрын
@@wmcrash at 1400 dollars is there a reason to get this over a bell skiver?
@wmcrash
@wmcrash 4 жыл бұрын
@@nigelbaboolal5072, the Cowboy 8116 is a splitter, not a skiver. I don't know much about machines, but between a splitter and a skiver, get the one that you need.
@tomasreyes4010
@tomasreyes4010 3 жыл бұрын
Name of the machine
@alefir13
@alefir13 4 жыл бұрын
which thickness of leather do you use for wallet?
@allanpennington
@allanpennington 4 жыл бұрын
Same question? Also what is the thinnest weight harness leather comes in? I get why you like it for wallets. Nice colour and buttery feel.
@jashton8710
@jashton8710 3 жыл бұрын
No, I don't need one....I want one.
@willd6515
@willd6515 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video............but to tweak the blade as showed here in this video, you will need a proper beltgrinder AND some considerable skill as a sharpener/knifemaker. Still great content, especially for us tinkerers, artists or otherwise creative people........
@psycholocke4090
@psycholocke4090 5 жыл бұрын
if you have the equipment but not the skill you could use a jig to help yourself getting the grinding correct.
@willd6515
@willd6515 5 жыл бұрын
@@psycholocke4090 Good advice!
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 5 жыл бұрын
You can always take the blade to a local knife maker, this is more what I was suggesting
@pequodexpress
@pequodexpress 4 жыл бұрын
Getting good at sharpening these blades is key. I'm still working on it. The best video I've seen on the topic for these particular blades is made by Nigel Armitage.
@allanpennington
@allanpennington 4 жыл бұрын
@@pequodexpress Is that on his paid channel on Vimeo? Or do you have a link to the sharpening vid please?
@carpediem_68
@carpediem_68 4 жыл бұрын
👏😊
@aussiegrace
@aussiegrace 2 жыл бұрын
South African accent?
@christiangeiselmann
@christiangeiselmann 5 жыл бұрын
Hello camera operator, please pay more attention to keeping the object of attention (part of machine, leather item etc.) in the picture. - Also, mind showing (!) the things he speaks about, e.g. when he speaks about checking rollers to be parallel at about 10:30 where he nicely explains things, but we would like to see (!) it.
@CHARTERMADE
@CHARTERMADE 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying and letting us know the original intention of the original comment was misled.
@viscache1
@viscache1 3 жыл бұрын
The hand pull splitters are great until you lose concentration for 2 seconds....then you skive your thumbnail off and separate the nail and nail bed from the bone and thumb print and surrounding meat. Why, ‘Yes!’ It is in fact exactly as painful as it sounds! I’ve moved on to the hand crank splitter!
@eueueueu21
@eueueueu21 2 жыл бұрын
boys, this is a pasta machine... first it was the knives then the oven now the pasta machine ? wth makers, get out of my kitchen
@GREMLINS516
@GREMLINS516 3 жыл бұрын
More than tree minutes of blabla before discovering the machine...
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