Chatterstorm vs Elves | Quarterfinals 4 - Quest for the Best Pauper Deck Ever

[@CardmarketMagic]

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[@polishhockeyfan]

That H.Blast was a master class smokescreen. I didn't even see it. Phenomenal play. Karls reaction was spot on.

[@sophie_salamander]

I was so confused as to why he didn't leave 2 untapped elves, as well. Amazing plays by the card market team as always.

[@888ian2]

as an ex avid elves player I was right with thoralf thinking he had to play the timber watch hehe

[@Victorious_Battle]

For real

[@byrontheusurper6505]

Me neither, that was NUTS

[@hernalius7630]

Id say theres no way chatterstorm loses but given the results of the last match with pestilence im keeping an open mind. Love this series!

[@crawdaddy1234]

So I thought about this one a bit. It actually makes a lot of sense how Pestilence lost to Goblins. Basically Goblins is just a burn deck. And Pestilence also burns the Pestilence player. So the Pestilence player is basically just helping the Goblins player. I think that matchup is highly dependent on who is on the play.

[@malte54]

@@crawdaddy1234 But 2010 goblins still is a very bad burn deck.

[@muditjohar5323]

@@crawdaddy1234if u look at the Swiss rounds pestilence went 2-0 against goblins

[@Heldenfussel]

Well Carl clearly punted game 2, not playing the Land turn 2 and with the double chatterstorm play. But I'm still glad storm lost.

[@Dracomandriuthus]

I expected goblins to win that MU. I expect chatter to win this one

[@skourch.]

Love the moment at 12:55 where Carl is explaining what all of his cards can do for him, the Thoralf just goes "and this is a Duress!" So funny for no reason.

[@bricelory9534]

Carl clearly loves playing the villain 😂

[@saltandpauper]

He is indeed the bad guy this time, after being the underdog in modern! haha

[@GellyGelbertson]

damn, sideboarding between second and third game took so long that toffal got a haircut - and they didn't even change any cards!

[@The_Abhy]

Yeah Its look like it

[@tciddados]

Yeah that definitely threw me off a little, lmao.

[@valt3rnative]

How the hell did you even notice that? 🤣

[@sh41]

Thoralf just loves playing elves, he does it at every opportunity. He's genuinely happy in this video. Quirion Ranger is one of my all time favourite cards, and this match proves why!

[@petermoglia]

Toffel is all good vibes, all the time.

[@sh41]

@@petermoglia happier than usual

[@jrodeck]

​@@sh41 same Quirion Ranger is one of my favorite cards, I actually have a CGC graded 10

[@JohnFromAccounting]

I'm glad we got to see Chatterstorm going off at least once.

[@MrZestubo]

Carl's misplay- if you want to call it a misplay, is an interesting lesson in that making the "safe" choice- manamorphose into double chatterstorm, isn't always the correct play. sometimes you gotta pray for topdeck lethal and go for it when you're facing down an opponent who is also popping off.

[@finnpeterson4335]

Yeah, it is such a fascinating example of playing to win vs playing to stay alive. In this scenario, making two green is on average what keeps Carl alive for the longest amount of time, but that is almost a guaranteed loss for the storm deck playing against elves that are popping off. But making red is playing to win, playing to draw another mana producing spell off the top of his deck, and in my opinion, has a far higher chance of victory than just casting two chatterstorms.

[@DSR505]

beyond that you can still defend with the 6 2/2's rookie storm player tbh

[@trveheimer6360]

carl is really up there with just the right amount of smugness when explaining his win (i love it)

[@Zeequals]

"storm is the least likely to be reprinted" newest set has a card that can grant ANY card storm "uhhh...."

[@Fanverleon]

The storm scale is just for standard sets, the newer storm cards came from modern horizons

[@John_Doe974]

Commander precons don't count, they're not even Modern legal

[@XxcallofdutyboyxX]

What card are you refering to?

[@Finngon]

@@XxcallofdutyboyxXProbably Crackling Spellslinger

[@Zeequals]

@@XxcallofdutyboyxXCrackling spellslinger

[@bricelory9534]

Well done! Thoralf had some excellent reads and timings. Carl was able to show the sheer power of the deck well. All in all, a good match!

[@theelectricant98]

Favorite episode yet, love seeing both decks get to do their thing

[@bricelory9534]

​@@theelectricant98 agreed! The first two Pauper matches were ... unexciting, which is the way things go sometimes. This had some excellent back and forth!

[@Africa4444]

People forget about the alternate mode for Learn, which can often be very relevant in chatterstorm. You can opt to loot instead of pulling in a lesson. I don't think it would've mattered, but that would've been the line I'd go for in the second game. Make the red mana, plan to loot away the chatterstorm in hand and see what you get. Of course with hindsight red mana was definitely the right play.

[@alexkuzela9266]

Learn doesn't loot, it rummages. That's probably why he didn't go for that line.

[@Africa4444]

That's true, but it doesn't change the line, except that Carl might have forgot he had cards in hand instead of exile.

[@ClockworkEngineer]

There's a reason Toffle is a continental champion.

[@max250427]

found the perfect line in both his wins. did not see that hydroblast coming!

[@andrespineiroc]

EXACTLY!!!!!

[@BzAli]

The editing at 16:45 is just amazing. Great work!

[@finnpeterson4335]

14:33 is such a fascinating example of playing to win vs playing to stay alive. In this scenario, making two green is on average what keeps Carl alive for the longest amount of time, but that is almost a guaranteed loss for the storm deck playing against elves that are popping off. But making red is playing to win, playing to draw another mana producing spell off the top of his deck, and in my opinion, has a far higher chance of victory than just casting two chatterstorms.

[@joshuadee7423]

4:49 The music here adds so much to Carl’s dramatic timing. Whoever edited this, well done

[@CardmarketMagic]

It's me carl 🤓 I learned to talk in a way that would match my music edits afterwards

[@joshuadee7423]

@@CardmarketMagic That's hilarious. I love the energy of doing something dramatic and already planning out what music is going to play when you do it

[@crawdaddy1234]

OOOH! Today his name is ThorELF!

[@cameton_youtube]

That was a sweet game, the hblast outta nowhere 😂

[@petermoglia]

As soon as the song at 15:07 kicks in on a Cardmarket video, you know the turn ahead is about to be sweet.

[@goodjuju8198]

I need to know what song this is, I heard it in the Jund history video and I was hooked

[@Alejandrodemontana]

Wow, what a battle, I think Thoralf may have demoralized Carl with his beautiful montage. Amazing video as always, super fun to watch.

[@davidhansen5067]

That upset was on par with the Prismatic Black in the Standard tournament!

[@robertomacetti7069]

at 1:25 can I say that technically the highest rated mechanic on the storm scale is "banding with" at 11?

[@zanebarber8688]

We really need more “bands with homarids” cards

[@robertomacetti7069]

@@zanebarber8688 i unironically like banding is not actually that complicated, can be summed up in "is the controller of the damaged thing to order how damage is dealt rather than the damage controller"

[@Pistolsatsean]

@@robertomacetti7069 That isn't all it does though

[@robertomacetti7069]

@@Pistolsatsean and you can block the entire band with only one creature i glossed over the obvious part of banding to focus on the supposedly complex part

[@Pistolsatsean]

@@robertomacetti7069 but you did claim that "it can be summed up in" which is clearly not true, as you need more words to describe the effects of the mechanic, also in your description, still not covered is what constitutes being part of a band "Any creatures with banding, and up to one without, can attack in a band." That is why the mechanic is 11 on the storm scale, not because the mechanic is too complicated, but because it is impossible to explain without taking up an entire cards worth of text, and it isn't impactful enough to justify that design cost.

[@bratfettlp5512]

What a match… That was so much fun to watch I love the best deck ever series.

[@smokyprogg]

16:43 Edits like this are the extra spice that makes this the best MtG channel lol

[@moshimeshowu747]

What!!! This video had an incredible ending!!!

[@grubgobbler3917]

Seriously! That's magic for you!

[@YoonnsAvec2N]

if the storm count is 4 then you exile 5 cards with Galvanic Relay or am i missing something ?

[@SardonicVida]

Carl sent 2 cards to exile that should have been in his hand 😂

[@Champion_Leon]

I mean he can cast neither of those cards

[@kerryblanchard9425]

One or two, you could say that one of the two Chatterstorms he cast on that turn was from hand, and he only used one of the two that was in exile. But he definitely should have kept the First Day in his hand.

[@piralos1329]

This video has sold me on playing Elves, the deck just looks supremely fun!!

[@LawsonPhoenix89]

19:27 holy shit that ruled

[@tyler2906]

Love the pauper content! Great series!

[@BaldurtheImpious]

The game play videos are litterally my favorite, never stop being you cardmarket! ❤

[@justanothercommenter5835]

Unbelievable finish. Upset after upset so far!

[@Bouldest1]

Did I miss something or should Carl have still been able to keep one of those chatterstorms around the 15:00 mark since he just showed his hand and it was one of the cards in there (meaning he should have cast the 2 from exile)?

[@mynameisDuck]

Yeah he should not have exiled them, he did it by mistake

[@waves-]

Perfect timing! I love this series!

[@ulyssesutour4222]

That was truly incredible, love it, as usual

[@benjaminloyd6056]

Whooo! What a match! Glad to see both decks do their thing, and thanks for explaining so well.

[@matt5g]

What a match, incredible job. Can't wait for the next match

[@RBGolbat]

Heads up: The Storm Scale is MaRo’s personal opinion on how likely mechanics are to return in Standard legal sets. The Storm Scale isn’t official and it doesn’t track how likely they are to return in supplemental sets.

[@byrontheusurper6505]

I genuinely thought chatterstorm was a pun on some card named chatter-something and the card shatterstorm, which I have for some reason. I had no clue a card called chatterstorm exists!

[@dee8jay8shaw]

I love this series its teaching me a lot about sideboards!

[@Tselel]

Games 2 and 3 were crazy! Great content as always, guys.

[@johncameron1935]

After seeing the first game, I was all in on team chatterstorm. But whew. That was one well-piloted elfball deck.

[@adamthebatmanwest]

What a good game, gj Carl at playing the villian!

[@blueplayer6197]

I am sending you guys my medical bill, my jaw dropped and now I need a doctor to reattach it. Holy! What a game!

[@michaelsinnreich6626]

I clicked elves because I believed. Well played, this match really showed off pauper, and it's meta defying nature.

[@DrSiddha]

Is my childhood's dream to see in this final Elves vs Goblins. We are getting there!

[@davidhouseman4328]

You had me with the obviscated blue mana for the blast, i thought you'd made mistake.

[@angelosorio8371]

Man, those Thoralf pictures with elves cards were hilarious

[@spidery7618]

WOW, that was in-sane. Very excited with the results of this game, I'm really looking forward to the Goblins matchup :D

[@andrehall23]

As an Elf player Green Mage ...this was some fun stuff to watch. Love both decks!

[@ForeverDayGreen]

100% on predictions so far. Not knowing any of the decks really helps 😂

[@SirZapdos]

This was kind of like the 2019 Tampa Bay Lightning vs Columbus Blue Jackets. Or maybe last year's Bruins vs Panthers. The gigantic favourite starts out looking unbeatable only to fall apart and lose to much rejoicing.

[@noahmorris1015]

NOOOOOO WAY oh my god oh my god this is THRILLING I AM OBSESSED LETSGOOOO ELVES WHOOOOOOOO YEAAH BABEY WIERD TRIBAL DECKS TO THE TOP!!!!!!!!! the only ONLY only dissapointment with this series is that because of how swiss worked out, we wont see elves v goblins in the finals! i am SO excited omg

[@Tater8q3f]

Pauper Elves is probably my favorite deck in magic. So glad to see it moving on.

[@mrsplays9817]

"Storm is the least likely mechanic to be reprinted" Storm is a 10 on the Storm Scale; Bands with Other used to be an 11. Good thing I checked; it was officially moved to 10 this year.

[@viviblue7277]

Bands with other card incoming in Modern Horizons 3! (I’m kidding but it’d be hilarious)

[@mrsplays9817]

@@viviblue7277 Hey, I'd love it

[@vctrsigma]

Reworking it to actually work like it sounds like it should i.e. "bands with X" means that it can band with X instead of things that have the same "bands with X" ability, as well as changing damage assignment to be closer to the way it worked originally at least makes it a lot easier to explain either "bands with X" or "banding". The original rules for "bands with X" was written the way it was because of the funky way the Legend creature type worked everything and the extremely narrow number of cards/variants that used it. The only varients were "bands with legends" and tokens with "bands with Wolves of the Hunt", so it mechanically didn't make a difference and avoided the complexities writing it in a way that could work with a pseudo-creature type Legend and/or with a token's name. I think the biggest issue now is that "banding" is most useful as a defensive ability which tends to especially bog down environments like limited; so it's a bad mechanic to include on a lot of cards in a set. Maybe we could get a few cards at rare or mythic in a set though, but then that feels like complicating a set just for nostalgia.

[@rfs8194]

I did not expect a match involving chatterstorm to be so much fun

[@TheeKrix]

Toralf playing Elves, how fitting

[@RayearthIX]

Amazing set of games and very surprised by the outcome. 1 of those games went how I expected. The other two... 😅

[@Kristjan0209]

I'm actually happy you didn't try to win game 2. Now we will get an iconic matchup

[@gotic1926]

Never expected this outcome😮

[@jackwilson5050]

Wow, after that first game I understand the power of Squirrels. Insane.

[@justafanofz]

I mean, emerkul does die to them

[@Thecalebpoe]

Did Carl miss a land drop from exile in the second game?

[@CardmarketMagic]

No I started the turn with a vault of whispers 👍

[@instabrawl2460]

I was so happy when thorralf was playing. Lets gooooo!

[@jackf1003]

The editing on this video is great. The way the cards in hand are shown and the life total placement its all great. The only thing is I don’t know what cards are being put in bottom after a mulligan. I’m always going back 10 seconds to figure out what they got rid of. If you could put a way to indicate the cards going on bottom that’d be great. Maybe highlight them with a gold boarder right before finishing mulligans? It’s just a suggestion. Great video as always!

[@Siffy5654]

The fact that manamorphose was cast before nights whisper in game 2 hurt my soul but otherwise great content as always

[@dreddbolt]

Pauper is AGAIN very satisfying. I've started on 5 Pauper EDH decks very recently, 3 of which are choose a background brews and 2 with an uncommon creature at the helm.

[@dashkatae]

Did chatterstorm punt game two? I mean, there is a Night's Whisper in exile, you have 4 black mana, you use two of it to draw two cards then you decide how you want to add mana and go off.

[@Eltharyon]

There were many punts indeed.

[@CardmarketMagic]

If I do that, I then can no longer play two spells :P it would make me lose on the spot. I have to re-watch the games dozens of times when I edit them and I'm pretty sure there is no way I could have played that game differently to be better. I just got unlucky with my Galvanic relays and thoralf drew the absolute nuts with the Elf deck :P

[@dashkatae]

@@CardmarketMagic How? You have 5 mana after casting Cabal Ritual, you use two to play night's whisper, drawing two cards, putting you at three black mana. You drew into rite of flame and manamorphose, you play the chromatic star, for one black, now you have two black left. Use the star, make a red, draw another card, now you can cast rite of flame. With two other rite of flames in your graveyard you add 4 red. Now you're back at four red and one black mana, a card deeper than you were, then you can cast manamorphose for another card, and even if you couldn't win right then and there, you could cast the two chatterstorms and put even more squirrels out than what you got.

[@benjaminsyttkus2499]

We really need a best of five.

[@jeromedarnell6270]

Jesus Christ. Never heard of chatterstorm before. What the actual hell is that deck.

[@tciddados]

Damn, that hydroblast outta nowhere.

[@FailOwlProductions]

Is it just me, or did Karl miss playing his turn 2 land in game 2?? The Galvanic Relay 11:16 showed a tap land that could have been used on the following turn to give him the missing red to win the game...

[@CardmarketMagic]

I started the turn with a vault of whisperers to play my first spell 👍

[@orionpax8382]

Galvanic Relay specifies that the cards can be played on your NEXT turn, you can't use anything you flip the turn you cast Galvanic Relay.

[@Kal1voda]

you guys outdid yourself again!

[@jshavluk4342]

That HYDRO BLAST !! Whoooooo🎉🎉🎉

[@marc-antoineboudreau2317]

THORALF YOU MADMAN!

[@imperatorjw]

20:35 "You just hate your lands!" ~Toffel, 0 lands in play.

[@thoralfseverin2112]

😆

[@davidguay2222]

Thoralf looking so fresh

[@thoralfseverin2112]

Thank you!! ❤

[@jamesbaker2019]

Cardmarket team delivers again. Please post name of the players and participants! Great to know the ppl involved

[@CardmarketMagic]

We did :) you cans ee the entire Swiss rounds in the link in the description

[@bluexco]

What! I did not expect that twist!

[@bluexco]

That feeling when you go to Pauper for the slower gameplay but still run into that turn 2 storm deck win! T^T

[@dustinfindsrocks]

Go Elves!!! I've had an elf deck since Urza's Saga! They just keep getting better!

[@lewst]

What an upset. Great play by thoralf. But there were so impactful missplays in game 2.

[@RoastedPheasant]

Caaaaaarl! You kept forgetting to resolve the actual spells! You were only resolving the copies from storm! Caaaaaaaaarl!

[@HearseCarpool]

Carl still having the crown hanging off his head in the interview killed me 😅

[@muditjohar5323]

Didn’t expect the 5-0 chatterstorm deck to be knocked out first round but kudos to elves

[@maarten0104]

Great video! Curious to see if play this match up another 10 times if the elves make any chance at all. I’ve played a lot of chatterstorm in pauper during the months it was legal and it was ridiculous.

[@CardmarketMagic]

We played 6 games before and sweeped all of them. But sometimes that's magic. It was the sake for the first quarters where Thoralf's Storm deck beat Andrea's 6 times in the practice rounds and then lost 0-2 once the camera was on

[@gamingalthepal]

I was so angry at Thoralf for tapping out on turn three until he showed off that sick line

[@85mcarnold]

I will always remember when the Pauper community was so fed up with Storm that they protested by all registering only basic lands in the weekend challenge.

[@Ellie-Angela]

SPOILERS Getting not one but TWO upsets by the original tribal decks feels both great and surreal. Either elves or goblins are going into the final after a reenactment of the original duel decks... let's hope we can have another upset at said final!

[@Paenguru]

Did u ever do this turnament video format with only community decks? would be fun to see diffrent homebrews duel it out. love the videos!

[@Yull-Rete]

He had no way of knowing it, but if Carl had kept his starting 7 in game 2, he could have sniped out Thoralf's entire mana base with Gut Shot on Thoralf's second turn.

[@TheAlmightyGoiter]

Storm scale is specifically for being reprinted into standard for those wondering. Not just all reprints.

[@ReederMG]

This match had me torn because I love watching Carl win, but I also have been waiting to watch Thoralf win with his Pauper Elves for what feels like years.

[@ottomoorefuller5302]

Love pauper, love this series!

[@themcking257]

that rite of flame at 14 40 lol

[@parkerstern1800]

The elf Montage at 16:50 🤣

[@theprojectdaemon]

Like Thorlaf said, if you can do it once you can do it twice; Chatterstorm dropped only a single game in their brackets, but with enough good luck and smart plays you can take down a god.

[@xPhireLight]

it is an important distinction that was missed that first day of class says "when it enters, put a counter on it" as a triggered ability rather then "enters with" as a replacement effect.

[@GaybrohamStinkton]

Who would win in an fight, Toralf or 11 Squirrels 🤔

[@matthugenberg8869]

And THIS is why I put my money on the initiative deck. You have only amazing draws or you die draws with storm. But initiative, even the eh draws are still insane, because the initiative is one of the most powerful mechanics they have ever made.

[@dang476]

It only lost because Carl inexplicably chose to make GG instead of RG.

[@sorin_markov]

@@dang476 He laid it out pretty clear, his odds were better with GG

[@THECOLLECTOROFSOULS]

@@sorin_markov Actually it would be a miracle to combo again in that situation. He did the mistake of playing not to lose instead of playing to win. Sometimes with these decks, you have to take the risk because the option to survive a few more turns may look safer but in reality it is usually a guaranteed loss.

[@fionathegayesttiefling9867]

@@THECOLLECTOROFSOULS While I agree it was the wrong play, even he realized that after drawing the ritual from it, I wouldn't call it inexplicable. He explicates it right after.

[@dang476]

@@sorin_markov He said his odds were better, but they actually weren't even close to being as good. The combination of cards he would need to draw the next two turns were borderline impossible, yet if he went for the win, he had two draws to hit 1 of 13 cards. I don't think Carl even understood what Learn does.