$600 System that Will Knock You Off Your Feet! Vanatoo Transparent One Encore Powered Speaker Review

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@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын
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@stcredzero
@stcredzero 2 жыл бұрын
Have you covered the Klipsch The Fives? I bought a pair refurbished off of Amazon for $600. I kinda dig them! They're connected to my living room PC through my TV as my "sound bar killers." I figure they're darn good little fun-time speakers. (Andrew Robinson calls them good dorm room speakers. I see that!) If you have the volume at a lower moderate level with the dynamic bass feature turned on, they sound like they've going down pretty close to 20 Hz! Not completely effortlessly. That Darko KZbin reviewer guy says he finds the dynamic bass "congested" and I hear that. It's like they're stretching a bit too much. But I'll be damned, that bass is there! Downsides: The remote feels cheap and it stopped working. The smartphone app is slow to start up and is a bit klunky. The firmware update is awkward, and not so smooth. (Overall theme, is that Klipsch software strikes me as "lowest bidder" stuff.) I stopped using the HDMI input, because it was buggy and kept de-syncing from my living room PC. But optical in from my TV works great! Using them that way, they sound better than with the RCA input, and they become "set and forget."
@tabithamaydavis5792
@tabithamaydavis5792 2 жыл бұрын
@@stcredzero OK, m'a husband picked up a pair of "The Fives" to replace our bedroom sound bar. It was [was] a little buggy in that the sound would now-and-again cut off. After a firmware upgrade, which enabled smart-phone based EQ, etc., the problem went away. We LOVE the sound as a no-miss replacement for the soundbar and it does well with music too (BT R&R while folding the laundry, etc.) It's connected to the TV via the ARC port. Again, very happy with our "The Fives". Maybe we should have bought "The Sixes", after all, aren't they one better than "The Fives"?
@76Sharky76
@76Sharky76 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you review the Audioengine A5’s
@nacarp2000
@nacarp2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@tabithamaydavis5792 The Sixes have less options in the amp, and plugging in a subwoofer cable doesn't mitigate the excessive bass like it does with the Fives. I didn't like my Sixes so have them to a friend. They're fine with them.
@stcredzero
@stcredzero 2 жыл бұрын
@@nacarp2000 Did you try to EQ down the bass?
@robtaylor-manning4871
@robtaylor-manning4871 2 жыл бұрын
They are from Seattle. Saw their room at Pacific Audio Fest. To my ears, the $400 Transparent Zero was even more amazing. We literally looked behind the curtains to make sure they did not have the real speakers hidden behind the curtains. They were, pound for pound, by far the best thing at the show. Would I love to have the $12k Audio Notes? Absolutely. For a first system, Vanatoo Transparent Zero, no question. Also, nice guys.
@StrangerInParadise58
@StrangerInParadise58 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! I have had the Transparent Zeros for over two years on my desktop setup and ABSOLUTELY LOVE them! The soundstage and imaging on my desk is soooo realistic sounding. I close my eyes and it sounds like the artist is performing before me. To better accommodate my height (6’4”), I did place mine on the IsoAcoustics Iso-Stand Series Speaker Isolation Stands with Height & Tilt Adjustment. This opened up their incredible sound even more. I then paired them with the Cambridge Audio Minx X201 subwoofer that is hidden under my desk. I use it with just enough volume (not too much) to round out the bass with that non-directional, ‘from the ground,’ fullness that live bass provides and the music is so alive and natural sounding. Love the Transparent Zeros! 🎶❤️🎶
@slicktricks88
@slicktricks88 2 жыл бұрын
Have the T0’s since they came out. Amazing little speakers. Ended up replacing it with a pair of KEF LSX and the KC62.
@henrikisraelian7266
@henrikisraelian7266 2 жыл бұрын
man when you said Chris Cornell was the greatest voice, just made my heart drop. he was an incredible singer :( his take on the James Bond franchise in Casino Royale was just breathtaking
@ericelliott227
@ericelliott227 2 жыл бұрын
Vanatoos are amazing. I almost bought a pair of the Zeros for my computer, but then found a solution to fit my long owned KRK monitors. The folks at Vanatoo were honest telling me that while they felt I would be happy with the Zeros, they suggested I purchase them from Amazon or someplace where I could return them in case it did not work out. I first ran across Vanatoo at a show back in 2015. I don't like small speakers, I'm a tower guy and I did not need a powered speaker at the time, but I stopped into their room for the same reason (too many $10k+ rooms)! The minute I stepped in and was greeted by sound I did not think was possible from such a speaker. In fact, I assumed trickery and looked all over the room around everything, under everything, you name it determined to find the subwoofer they were using. I found no such thing and they were laughing at me. It is truly amazing what these guys have built. I have heard nothing like them since. The guys are also very humble and were super excited when they won a silly award at a show. It is apparent that they take nothing for granted and that extends to the design of their product.
@tabithamaydavis5792
@tabithamaydavis5792 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a "shoot-out" including Klipsch The Fives, Vanatoo One Encore, KEF LSX, Kanto YU6 and/or TUK, and the appropriate Edifier and Goldenear offerings. That would be THE BEEZ KNEEZ, a real NEAT-O-MOSQUETO, and DANDI-DILLI! Just sayin'
@TheJman143417
@TheJman143417 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more.
@josephpoggi991
@josephpoggi991 2 жыл бұрын
Yeees, Ive never seen a video directly comparing these even though they compete so directly, would love to see it
@raywitkowski8547
@raywitkowski8547 Жыл бұрын
The Turk’s are nice.
@AMLunaMax
@AMLunaMax 4 ай бұрын
Solid 👊🏽
@lubczyk
@lubczyk Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the Vanatoo Transparent Zeros as my PC speakers for over 2 years, and they sound absolutely amazing for the size. My desk space is limited, and I would definitively consider upgrading to these depending on their size.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't heard these in person, but on paper, I still prefer The Fives from Klipsch since it can accept phono inputs, as well as HDMI for easy ARC integration to your TV for the same price. But head to head audio between The Fives and these Vanatoo speakers? I would LOVE for you to do a video about that! Thanks for the review, Randy! 🤘
@peterphan227
@peterphan227 2 жыл бұрын
I have their T0. Amazing little powerhouse for my desk. I love how much Vanatoo packs into their speakers. And my T0's sound fantastic. I have them connected to a sub, so I love the built-in low-pass filter.
@peterphan227
@peterphan227 2 жыл бұрын
Btw, I love their remote. Yes, it's plastic and light, but the texture, feel, shape and size make it very comfortable to use. Fits nicely in your pocket, shaped like a rounded flat pebble. Really nicely designed. Nice attention to detail from Vanatoo.
@carewser
@carewser 2 жыл бұрын
It's great to see you review powered speakers because I really think the industry is moving that way, eventually powered speakers will totally dominate the market, they are all I own. Speaking of which, when are you going to review other powered speakers by the likes of Kanto, Edifier and Audioengine?
@RayBo
@RayBo Жыл бұрын
I have owned a pair of these since 2015, and they have been awesome! They were $499 back then and worth every penny.
@Digeeedad
@Digeeedad 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Randy. Great review! I actually had thought about asking you to review Vanatoo speakers, several months ago, as given their "bang for the buck", they definitely seem to fit in with your Cheap Audio Man page here! Saw your review here this morning and had to smile that you had found them! I purchased the Vanatoo TOs a few years ago and use them as my computer desktop speakers. Besides looking cooler than any other desktop speakers, their sound never ceases to amaze me! Sometimes I wished to get away from listening at my computer desk and wanted a more traditional stereo system. I knew where I should probably turn and purchased the Transparent One Encores. I have them sitting on pedestal speaker stands and, just as with my TOs, I'm always amazed at their sound, looks and connectivity options! I've got a turntable/phono pre amp connected via the analog input, a CD player digital output connected to the coaxial input, a WiiM Mini music streamer connected via optical output/input and an Amazon Echo Dot connected via blue tooth, everything accessible via the terrific remote! All sound terrific! Great company and products and the 2 engineer/designers are great guys as well, always available via email or phone for advice or question answers. Hoping your review and enthusiasm garners them many sales. Definitely well deserved!
@neal1256
@neal1256 2 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of the Transparent Zero's on my computer desk. Excellent sound, features and quality. I am very happy with Vanatoo. They replaced a pair of B&W MM-1s, which I had for years.
@flyingsquirrel575
@flyingsquirrel575 2 жыл бұрын
I have had the original Transparent One speakers since 2015 and have loved every trouble-free minute. My only quibbles with them have been answered in the Encore. (Although the original TO’s have a detachable power cord and standard binding posts rather than a proprietary connection.) I completely agree that they’re purpose-designed; whatever limitations they may seem to have are probably things that just aren’t appropriate for a set of small powered speakers. If you want something more than what’s on the Encore, you’re probably better off looking at a different type of beast. The original TO’s could have used a bit more midrange presence for my taste, but it’s not a serious deficit. Sound like the Encore has addressed that. Know what you mean about the aluminum tweeter vibe. There’s a slightly fatiguing ring at higher volume, especially with recordings that are already bright. But then, if you’re listening to brash music at a sufficiently high volume to get that ringing the extra treble is probably less of an issue than your pissed off neighbor. By the way, they’re rugged as hell. I have schlepped them from house to house, from the PNW to Mexico to the Midwest - sometimes not especially well packed - and nary a problem.
@katejohnson955
@katejohnson955 2 жыл бұрын
I have lived with, loved and still love, my Vanatoo T1E speakers. I listen to them daily. You requested more analog and a phono stage. I personally would want to go MORE digital with direct Ethernet & WI-FI support, and support for Roon music servers.
@calebkeen8967
@calebkeen8967 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned these for three years, use them on my desktop (admittedly overkill) and they've been great. The amplifier went out after about a year but I had no issues with getting them promptly repaired with no issues since. They do not need a subwoofer, but if you do hook them up to an external sub you can use a built-in 120hz or 80hz high-pass filter that makes them sound even more dynamic and refined.
@_Mario_PL_
@_Mario_PL_ 2 жыл бұрын
Had mine for over a year now, same use as desktop speakers. I have them on stands, tweeters ear level. I absolutely love them, I thought about getting a sub, but i really think it would take away from these speakers as a desktop setup. If I had them for a bigger room on a couch listening, it would make sense to add a sub.
@calebkeen8967
@calebkeen8967 2 жыл бұрын
@@_Mario_PL_ If you move to couch listening a quality subwoofer will be well-worth the effort.
@_Mario_PL_
@_Mario_PL_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@calebkeen8967 Wish they made bigger ones for that kind of listening and adding a quality sub would be amazing. Maybe I just like my music a bit louder than most. Have you tried using them as a couch set up?
@calebkeen8967
@calebkeen8967 2 жыл бұрын
@@_Mario_PL_ I haven't used them anywhere but on my desk, but I have moved my chair six or seven feet back and they easily play loud enough for my tastes (85-90 db). If you use them with a sub the DSP volume limiter adjusts to allow even higher volume but I haven't tested that.
@_Mario_PL_
@_Mario_PL_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@calebkeen8967 You're right, forgot that when adding a sub the speakers will go louder, makes sense since they won't have to play very low frequencies.
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting speaker. For what it's worth, a passive radiator acts acoustically just like a port, with the exception of the possibility of "chuffing". Positioning any speaker close to a wall will increase the room lift; no matter where the port/passive radiator is. So, it comes down to leaving enough space behind this speaker or a rear ported speaker so as to not affect the tuning by constricting the air flow.
@thomasschafer7268
@thomasschafer7268 2 жыл бұрын
Passive radiator should be 30% bigger than the driver..membranearea.
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasschafer7268 Maybe? But not necessarily - the passive radiator can be tuned with mass loading or suspension compliance, etc. Just as there are no hard and fast rules about the size of the port vs the woofer - same applies here.
@christopherstorrier5560
@christopherstorrier5560 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasschafer7268 ....most passive radiators are the same size as the bass/mid drive unit,their is no rule,seen them in all shapes & sizes...i remember back in the '70's the most used one here in the UK was the KEF 9" × 6" oval 'race track' passive radiator...like the guy says it is equivelent to having a reflex port but without any noice chuffing from the port...my old subwoofer used a 10" passive radiator along with a 10" active bass unit..i did'nt like it so bought an SVS SB1000...much better quality imo.....i'll have to try to hear these,sadly £1200 in UK....not kool...
@chrisy4011
@chrisy4011 Жыл бұрын
I thought the passive radiator acted like a sub
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard Жыл бұрын
@@chrisy4011 A subwoofer would have to have a voice coil - passive radiator by definition doesn't have a voice coil.
@stevenmichael7770
@stevenmichael7770 2 жыл бұрын
Love Vanatoo - the T0 are amazing desktop speakers. They benefit from a sub, but they were an absolute steal at $350. Easy to believe the T1s are also amazing.
@johnjones5676
@johnjones5676 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!! Love my Transparent One's. Great couple dudes running the show there, I hear, too.
@scootergants
@scootergants 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard them at a recent audio show and 100% amazing. Floored to hear the sound coming off these compact system. Amazing engineering by Vanatoo. Congrats!
@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475
@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 2 жыл бұрын
Keep reviewing sealed speakers, and keep liking them! (PR is really a sealed variant, but still sealed. Just has a squishy wall). Sealed are great audio architecture; the best, technically. It's good to know what options are out there for people who like good accurate bass, not just loud bass. ...which is a good number of people. Folks can find the best speakers for them with broad category reviews. (Planar magnetic may be good too, if anybody is doing cheap ones? Pretty pricey usually.)
@StevePilgrim2013
@StevePilgrim2013 2 жыл бұрын
Really one of your best reviews! Lots of info delivered quickly with all questions answered. Thanks.
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@HPLeft
@HPLeft 2 жыл бұрын
I heard these at the last NY Audio Show and was greatly impressed. I recommended them to my ex-wife, who has great ears, and she loves them on her desktop.
@flashhog01
@flashhog01 2 жыл бұрын
I visited their room two years in a row at an audio show and they weren’t for me; I found them dull and lacking soundstage/imaging. Great review Randy, I’m sure a lot of people would enjoy them.
@b1ffd
@b1ffd 2 жыл бұрын
I have loved my T1Es on my desktop for a few years now. I also had contacted Vanatoo directly a couple of times and they are wonderful to work with.
@tomprowda9581
@tomprowda9581 2 жыл бұрын
I heard these at Florida Audio Expo 3 years ago. Walked in the room, saw these teeny boxes producing amazing sound. I asked where the subwoofer was, they said there wasn't one. Amazing sound and value. Just hook them up, put on your favorite music and enjoy!
@christiharris292
@christiharris292 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Randy, great review. I heard and purchased the T1's at Pacific Audio Fest last month. They are truly great speakers and I am using them with my Thorens turntable and a ifi zen phono, it makes for an awesome combination. When not using the turntable, we just use the bluetooth and fill the family room with sound. I am looking at the T0's for my office.
@Schlock3000
@Schlock3000 2 жыл бұрын
As a German I love that they are "TÜV Rheinland" approved :)
@Corndog642
@Corndog642 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a fan of Vanatoo for years. They sound amazing! My only gripe would be their custom connecting cable to the other speaker. They used to have regular speaker connectors which I would prefer as I use better than average cables. Plus the choices of 6.5’ or 33’ is… weird. An 8-10’ cable would be more ideal.
@truthsRsung
@truthsRsung 2 жыл бұрын
"Weird" is saying that this system is "focused on Digital" but plays higher res thru it's analog input and has analog Knobs, on the Back. Nevermind placing a dac and amp in a cabinet that vibrates when used.
@gharris2389
@gharris2389 2 жыл бұрын
I heard these at Pacific Audio Fest last month. Very impressive. Having just heard the $100K (!?!?!) Borresen little passive stand-mounts nextdoor, of course they were definitely next level, but the Vanatoos still sounded very good by comparison. I had them play Kiss by Prince - great imaging, detail, bass, punch and dynamics. Sounded even better with the sub which I think still comes in at $1K overall. Great value. The owner did a great demo and clearly is passionate about his product and delivering great service, value and sound for his customers. Better than some faceless Chinese brand. If I was in the market for such a product, it's a no-brainer.
@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475
@onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 2 жыл бұрын
You went back and bought the stand speaker for $100k though, right? That just sounds like a bargain. (Stands were probably extra though... $25k?).
@glenzenaf
@glenzenaf 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Transparent Zero speakers for my desktop setup (with an SVS sub), and they sound amazing.
@overnightdelivery
@overnightdelivery Жыл бұрын
Yes. The Sb-1000 is perfect in an office. I also found the T0 speakers sound punchier and better overall without stands just flat on the desk angled toward the ears.
@overnightdelivery
@overnightdelivery Жыл бұрын
I tested the T1s out before deciding on the T0s from the same company. I found it sounded great from 3 to 5 feet away in a medium sized room. It was too loud to be played at their potential in the small office room that I had. What is really odd is that the volume and sound quality seemed to drop off substantially when listening from more than about 8 feet away. So it appeared to be a pretty directional speaker and not great listening from a distance. But it's odd that I never hear anyone mention this. I also compared it to some other smaller bookshelf speakers that did not have this issue.
@stephen0993
@stephen0993 3 ай бұрын
Interesting comment, so in your experience the T1's are not ideal for near and far-field listening, but more adequeate for medium distance (like watching tv in a living room)? Thanks.
@connor9966
@connor9966 2 жыл бұрын
Have had the OG T1's (w/ the soft dome) for about 5 years and they are fantastic near field desktop computer speakers. Would never think about replacing them. Interesting fact, there's no actual D to A converter. The amplifier accepts the digital signal and can amplify that, from what I've heard. I don't really know how it works, but it's a winner.
@gatticusfpv3174
@gatticusfpv3174 2 жыл бұрын
Okay whew I remember reading something about that and thought I was going crazy seeing this lol. Apparently they use actual digital amps and the signal stays digital right up till it hits the voice coils. How this works I haven't a clue. But they do have an ADC for the analog input.
@thomasmleahy6218
@thomasmleahy6218 Жыл бұрын
Don't you mean A to D converter?
@frankbrackney
@frankbrackney 2 жыл бұрын
Great Review Randy! Own the Vanatoo T0's (soft dome tweeter) for 4 years with home office/nearfield setup. Sound quality is outstanding. If your going for minimal, there is nothing better IMHO. Utilize multiple sources (analog (vinyl),optical,usb) & built-in auto-switching between sources works flawlessly. Adding an external sub elevates their sound even further. Finally, recommend the Stageek Aluminum Desktop Speaker Stands to place T0's at the perfect height & you gain precious desk space back underneath!
@NewPulseLabs
@NewPulseLabs Жыл бұрын
You happen to have any pics of this setup? Was looking at different stands as well.
@JohnScheppler
@JohnScheppler 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, I was super impressed by Vanatoo at Axpona too and allowing us to play our own music during the show.
@robertalker652
@robertalker652 2 жыл бұрын
This was such an excellent review. One that surely seen many who watched it were licking their chops at the prospect of owning them. I am one of those, in spite of needing yet another set of speakers like I need a hole in my head.
@ginom407
@ginom407 2 жыл бұрын
I want hear these! I wasn't all that interested until you said Sound Bar Replacement! Thank you for another Great Review!!! 👍👍👍
@winteriscoming6501
@winteriscoming6501 Жыл бұрын
Hey Randini... Just saw this vid. Just so u know, the only way to truly appreciate these speakers in all their glory is to disable the compressors in the internal menu. They absolutely come alive with the safeties disabled. Just sayin'. Have a good one.
@kentonwatts504
@kentonwatts504 2 жыл бұрын
Love love love my Vanatoo T1 (first series) before Encore. I have two sets. I have two dedicated music rooms and I spend as much time in my office with the vana's. They ROCK!
@wesleyparker6432
@wesleyparker6432 2 жыл бұрын
A feature you only touched on is the subwoofer sensing. When a sub is connected the Vanatoo senses the connection and the DSP curves are modified automatically, I believe more than just adding a shelf filter. I can tell you that these connected to a sub that can keep up will alleviate any concerns one might have of volume capabilities in anything up to a med to med large room. I typically run them w/o, but when I drag the sub out and connect, these speakers can fill a room.
@greganderson1681
@greganderson1681 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Randy, Those little powered boxes look cool, but... BUT, I heard a couple upcoming Elacs powered bookshelfs last weekend at the Audio Advice Live show here in Raleigh and um, heck dang!!! (I would use stronger language, but this is a family channel.) These things were unbelievable! Maybe you saw them at Expona? They'll be available soon and at the same price point as those Vanatoos you're touting. I trust your judgement, hell I bought a bunch of stuff you reviewed (would love to tell you about the mods I made to the Reisong A10, thanks to Skunkie Designs - amazing improvement!) The Elac guys had the little (under 10" tall) bookies right next to a pair of pricey towers with 4 opposing side-mounted woofers, and everyone in the room was convinced the music was coming from them. No subs, just pure awesomeness. Never thought twice about powered speakers, but these guys totally rewired my attitude about that. I think there are design similarities between those Vanatoos and the Elacs. If I get around to it, I'll try to check out the Vanatoos. And BTW, if you're like me the ONLY way you'll ever get to hear supreme super-high-end audio is at shows like these. Thankfully, it didn't ruin my at-home experiences - it just put everything into perspective. It helps to like a wide range of music cuz you won't hear much metal or grunge or punk or indie weirdness (although my Indie lust was sated somewhat in the Naim room). Zeppelin, yes. Floyd, sure. Stones, maybe. Nirvana, no. Metallica, no (unless you're special, like you Randy). Listen to whatever you want from Qobuz on phenomenal headphones, if you want. But where's the fun in that? Anyway, I'd send you some photos of the Elacs and other cool stuff at the show, if I knew how. Cheers!
@mikehomner4724
@mikehomner4724 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a pair of Vanatoo Zero's for a little over a year. Can't rave about them enough. Everyone who listens to them ask me if I have a sub connected. The base is just that good. The other reaction is Vana Who? Yeah no one ever has heard of them but, once they listen, they love! They only get better with burn in too! :):)
@EricLebel
@EricLebel Жыл бұрын
The new ones (Transparent One Encore Plus) are about to come out... hope you can get your hands on this early for a review!
@MinusTwoTonsils
@MinusTwoTonsils 2 жыл бұрын
I just started this, but you should check out the JBL 305P MKII. I have them in my office/studio. I use them mainly for music but they are great for everything imo.
@Duderichy
@Duderichy 2 жыл бұрын
Literally got these last week!! So far pretty happy!!
@austinjones7104
@austinjones7104 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Cornell has so many great awe inspiring vocals Wave goodbye from euphoria mourning, beyond the wheel in soundgarden, and I am the highway in audioslave. What a great talent and person may he Rest In Peace.
@NosEL34
@NosEL34 2 жыл бұрын
If I was just starting out in Hi-fi I would seriously consider powered speakers. You get a lot more for your money in most cases. There are some really good ones out there. These look pretty good too.
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 2 жыл бұрын
The drivers remind me a lot of those that were in an old set of RBH bookshelves
@markainsworth6721
@markainsworth6721 Жыл бұрын
I noticed you complained mildly about the sound through analog inputs. On these speakers, the analog input gets converted to 96/48 digital for the purpose of feeding the dsp. So you will not improve the sound of these by using an external dac, even an expensive one.
@johnoehrle5973
@johnoehrle5973 Жыл бұрын
i have the transparent zero 'cuz i am the original cheap audioman, $300 a pair. differnces:powerbrick, no l-r switch. vanatoo is great on the phone, lost a rubber plug and gary? resolved my problem...forgetaboutit. great channel, thanks cheapam.
@jasonkillsformomy
@jasonkillsformomy 2 жыл бұрын
Measures good for the price. Add a RSL Speedfoower 10S MKII for $449 and you got a good low budget system.
@kevinmertel6108
@kevinmertel6108 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this! Hope you also get a chance to review the Transparent Zero.
@GPN005
@GPN005 6 ай бұрын
Any chance you'll review the updated versions of these? Would love to hear the updated feedback as I'm close to clicking 'buy' although debating the smaller ones with a small sub to hit lower for a desk setup.
@jownbey
@jownbey 13 сағат бұрын
These are good but mine had longevity issues. They ran hot as the dickens and the amp died about six months after the warranty expired. The remote also died a year before that, tried several batteries and it was a paperweight.
@ben23a31
@ben23a31 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see powered speakers/monitor reviews ! 👍🏽
@jimf5160
@jimf5160 2 жыл бұрын
i also heard these at AXPONA and the Transparent Zeros...I was very impressed by both.
@geoffreydebrito2653
@geoffreydebrito2653 2 жыл бұрын
The Vanatoos receive consistently good reviews. That said at $599. they have competitors, such as the Audioengine A5+ @$399.00 The Vanatoo reviewed here goes down to 48Hz and the A5+ goes down to 50Hz. No doubt the Vanatoo moves more air, so for hard rock fans who can swing its higher price, it's clearly the way to go. But for analog instrument genres like folk, jazz, country and vocal dominant music, the A5+ may well be the better choice and for less.
@zenphony
@zenphony 2 жыл бұрын
Randy only listens to hard rock so his review makes sense only to that limited range.
@pdcragin33
@pdcragin33 2 жыл бұрын
Well (a) Randy cites Ron Carter on acoustic bass often, so Randy goes beyond hard rock and (b) the genres of rock, jazz and classical hold such a wide range of sound each that a reviewer can tell me about the quality of sound he/she hears. Frankly, this is the first time I’ve heard praise for the Audioengine A5. That’s one tick mark in their checkbox.
@zenphony
@zenphony 2 жыл бұрын
@@pdcragin33 good to hear, my limited views shouldn’t have warranted a pigeonholed comment like I typed, thanks for the correction. Would it be fair to say “most of what he listens to” is heavier rock? Also, I have had the Audioengine 5s for many years and felt they were one of the best for that range when I got them. I haven’t done any listening for the last few years so there may be better now.
@geoffreydebrito2653
@geoffreydebrito2653 2 жыл бұрын
@@pdcragin33 The A5+ gets good kudos from actual buyers on amazon. They both reach about as deep, the Vanatoo pushes more air which in a small room may overpressurize it. The A5+ suffers in a larger room. But both work best with a sub. Audio preferences aside, its $200. lower price is its main advantage over the Vanatoo.
@pdcragin33
@pdcragin33 2 жыл бұрын
@@zenphony Yes, it seems it would be fair to say Randy mostly listens to heavier rock. Are you suggesting I was being overly pedantic? Gee neither of my ex-wives ever mentioned that 😏
@kyron42
@kyron42 2 жыл бұрын
Even with passive radiators on the rear you still need to have it at least a few inches from the wall as you do with rear ports.
@ADREISTER
@ADREISTER 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought as Randy said that. That PR acts like a port/another driver that has a wave form....radiating into the rear wall.
@kyron42
@kyron42 2 жыл бұрын
@@ADREISTER yep but low frequencies turn corners very easily so 2 or 3 inches should be plenty.
@ADREISTER
@ADREISTER 2 жыл бұрын
@@kyron42 , main consideration I guess is phase issues around the tuning frequency. Slot loaded woofers, for example, always sounded best with about 2 to 3 inches from the reflection to avoid standing wave cancelation. If the speaker is toed in, no worries. However, there would still be bass reinforcement by having the PR close to the wall.
@kyron42
@kyron42 2 жыл бұрын
@@ADREISTER this box is probably turned to around 50Hz. At that frequency there is no meaningful reflection off the wall when the speaker is close to the wall. Sound simply disperses into the room. The acoustic impedance that the passive radiator experiences being close to the wall might go up slightly making it slightly more efficient but the overall effect is insignificant. There should be no significant phase change.
@ADREISTER
@ADREISTER 2 жыл бұрын
What is your definition of "meaningful" and what is "close to the wall" then?
@ThinkingBetter
@ThinkingBetter 2 жыл бұрын
There is no point in using an external DAC with this speaker as the signal internally end up going through an ADC, DSP and yet another DAC and your 192kHz end up being even more converted and still limited to 96kHz. Just use USB directly and 96kHz is excellent already.
@kyron42
@kyron42 2 жыл бұрын
Great find. It looks like fantastic value. I'm sure Elac will be shaking in their boots.
@maddog3454
@maddog3454 2 жыл бұрын
Yes 100% Chris Cornell is my favorite singer...especially on cochise..that scream is everything
@rand9994
@rand9994 2 жыл бұрын
I tried a pair. Sounded great at low volumes but the passive radiator would make a popping sound turned up so I returned.
@HansProbs
@HansProbs 2 жыл бұрын
such a well designed product through and through
@TheKizersoze13
@TheKizersoze13 2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for these to be updated for the last two years. I think the update will solve all the issues. Detachable cable / 192 / E-Arc.
@phillamoore157
@phillamoore157 Жыл бұрын
They have a bit of a KEF thing going on. Nice looking. My problem is that, after getting used to, and thoroughly loving, our Linton's, it's difficult to listen to anything else.
@nc3419
@nc3419 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't stream or DL hi Rez music this ticks alot of boxes. For the money, with real wood veneer and a passive radiator, it presents a value and ergonomic option.
@Brian_Romska
@Brian_Romska 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual, I wouldn't mind some vanatoos one day. My wife wants me to ask if u did the Ironman, I'd guess yes since ur wearing the shirt, however u do wear the Kessel run shirt and I'm pretty sure u haven't done that, but I could be wrong...
@harisshaukat4780
@harisshaukat4780 2 жыл бұрын
Personally after going through both Vanatoo models T0, T1E and Sony SSCS5 I would advise everyone to steer clear from speakers with no waveguide. These speakers just sound wrong. How I found out? By luckily trying the smallest Genelec speaker model 8010 (G One). How a tiny speaker can sound so perfect is just beyond my understanding. After researching ASR, ultimately I have come to the conclusion that controlled directivity is a must for speakers, especially for far field listening like TV setups. And the enclosure must also also be rock solid. Those tiny Genelec monitors absolutely destroy Vanatoos and Sony.
@stephen0993
@stephen0993 3 ай бұрын
Interesting, so you don't recommend the Vanatoo's? I think the Genelec's are not available anymore.
@harisshaukat4780
@harisshaukat4780 3 ай бұрын
@@stephen0993 no I don't. something is off about Vanatoos. I rather trust big brands now with years of research behind their products. Genelecs are superb and still available. Also, lately I have dabbled with bluetooth speakers and there are some amazing speakers out there at fraction of the price of these audiophile speakers. these newer bluetooth speakers have awesome DSP and designed to produce deep bass. some examples would be Harman Kardon Onyx 6 and Go + Play 3. Both are outstanding speakers
@kyron42
@kyron42 2 жыл бұрын
I tried a vifa aluminium dome tweeter at one point. I didn't like it. I went back to a soft dome.
@jondough7823
@jondough7823 2 жыл бұрын
How do these compare to something like PSB Alpha AM5s?
@petedrumm2957
@petedrumm2957 2 жыл бұрын
These are not self powered and ii never here anyone talk about them they're the paradigm mini monitors 7v7 I had them for 11 years and I always am amazed by them I check if the center is on and my Rel T5 if I use a sub because it can fill a decent size room easy love the channel dude
@cambodragonaudiophile8475
@cambodragonaudiophile8475 Жыл бұрын
I really wanted to be laid in the aisle by this review -- not least b/c we get so few powered speakers on this channel -- but I'm a bit nonplussed by the frequency response: My Edifier s2000mkiii's were $300 new in the box and they go down to 45Hz with no passive radiator and no DSP. If anyone out there has any direct A/B experience with those two speakers I'd be very interested.
@Drayton2k
@Drayton2k Жыл бұрын
Scored a pair for $100. LOVE THEM
@denroy3
@denroy3 Жыл бұрын
Emotiva's B-1 had a powered version that was awesome...used them for computer speakers.
@vincenturbano5849
@vincenturbano5849 Жыл бұрын
Would like to see a comparison of the Vantoo Transparent One Encores to the SVS Wireless Pros..thanks
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 2 жыл бұрын
Thought I'd come over here & check out this channel, I'm looking to hook up a speaker system to my laptop , I know nothing about stereo systems except to turn them on & sometimes that's confusing
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 2 жыл бұрын
Know one listens to the Beastie Boys anymore 🤯
@mastersingleton
@mastersingleton 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an A/B comparison of the Vanatoo Transparent One Encore and the ADAM Audio T5V to see which one is the better offer value for money wise.
@chadkent1158
@chadkent1158 11 ай бұрын
The new ones are out. Please review them tomorrow.
@swinde
@swinde 2 жыл бұрын
The "To Other Speaker" port appears to be a standard connector. I have seen the "footprint" before. This was possibly used for microphones in the 1960s and 70s. Not sure who made it.
@ceciliastauffer9203
@ceciliastauffer9203 2 жыл бұрын
Dude!!!!!!! I actually tried to look for your Sith triangle room treatment. 😅
@gatticusfpv3174
@gatticusfpv3174 2 жыл бұрын
The original T1 not the encores had both a removable power cord and a soft dome tweeter and the interconnect cable on the T0s is literally cat6 lol. I really wish instead of coming out with the T1Es they would have made a bigger speaker. Not so much a tower speaker but just a bigger stand mount with more output for a full sized setup in a larger room. They would seriously be my end game. I've been chasing after the imaging and in room presence of the T0s but in a larger room ever since I got them years ago. Have spent 1000s of dollars and haven't come close. =(
@mattkalis1567
@mattkalis1567 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know. An Aiyma T9 (or Douk ST01), a pair of Emotiva B1+ speakers, a Schiit modi DAC, and $50 still in my pocket would probably the direction that I would take.
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын
totally get it. I like separates as well. these were the first powered speakers that I could see myself living with though
@mattkalis1567
@mattkalis1567 2 жыл бұрын
@@cheapaudioman and I get your review. There is a use case where these Vanatoos make sense. They certainly look nicer and may be a lot bassier than the Emotiva’s. It’s just not for me.
@user-ed1yd9lc8y
@user-ed1yd9lc8y 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to know how they compare to PSB AM5s
@halrichard1969
@halrichard1969 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, good luck with that one. Thanks as always Randy.
@sjohie
@sjohie 2 жыл бұрын
Since this is a small(ish) US manufacturer, finding these in the EU would be a feat. Then again, we have the Edifier S3000PRO's for about the same money. I'd be interested in a A/B comparison between those two.
@buffal0bilious
@buffal0bilious 2 жыл бұрын
I used a tone generator to test the point at which the low end rolls off into inaudibility on my T1Es, B1+s, and T1+s. The T1E was still strongly audible at 40hz and didn't fully drop out until about 37 or 38hz, several hz lower than the B1+, despite the B1 having quite a bit more cabinet volume. The T1+ reached about 34hz in my room before I couldn't hear it. Only 3 or 4hz more from a speaker about 6X the size. I love all three speakers, but in terms of size/bass extension, the Vanatoo has some dark magic going on.
@thewirah1
@thewirah1 2 ай бұрын
Do they sound muddy like the Fives? I want powered speakers that are the opposite of the Fives, like the YU6 but with a better soundstage and more detail.
@leonhardtart7163
@leonhardtart7163 2 жыл бұрын
Have you checked them against the Harman Kardon Studio 4. Not the other versions, because this is the best of this series. Thank you.
@RedSinter
@RedSinter 2 жыл бұрын
You could use a switcher for multiple inputs. I'm pretty sure there are some excellent units available I've seen them on Zeos Channel just don't ask me the names. .
@rap-soldier2185
@rap-soldier2185 2 ай бұрын
Randy i wanted to buy to hook up to computer - usb = but down the road getting ( Head- phone rig ) Which will have SEPERATES- dac - Amp - I plan on hooking them into Dac - that will then go to tower computer- so i can plug into external dac - then will it be playimg off of external dac and not built in dac. ? Do you suggest different speakers if what. ?
@jhiss100
@jhiss100 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. These are tight!
@robertdepesci3418
@robertdepesci3418 8 ай бұрын
if you had to choose between kanto tuk and vanatoo one encore, which would you prefer? thanks
@mistermushroom652
@mistermushroom652 Жыл бұрын
You should review the Kanto Tuck.
@frankthorne11
@frankthorne11 2 жыл бұрын
Actual human size remote control is nice.
@FOH3663
@FOH3663 2 жыл бұрын
Compelled right then to pause, ... go play Soundgarden... Solid content, killer logo
@Professor5180
@Professor5180 6 ай бұрын
How would these compare with the SVS Prime wireless PRo in terms of sound?
@BAND-MAID-USA
@BAND-MAID-USA 2 жыл бұрын
Why is this guy so amazed by powered monitors? The rest of us have been using them for decades and making millions from them.. And Mike Patton is the best voice in rock n roll, and all other genres. Cornell was a badass for sure tho..
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not amazed by powered speakers. Frankly, I've only heard a couple I've liked.
@mgaming7
@mgaming7 2 жыл бұрын
Not trying to rain on Vanatoo here but the Wharfedale EVO4.2 are on sale for $999. (sorry, just an FYI)
@audx2338
@audx2338 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so confused because... I don't love them. I'd seen so many glowing reviews, I was ECSTATIC when I scored these like-new on eBay. I couldn't wait to hear the step up from my $100 Micca PB42x's, which sound great to me. I've been A/B'ing the Vanatoos on their own vs. the cheap DAC/Miccas/Subwoofer combo I have now (you can instantly switch your playback device during songs in Windows) for a couple months now. The Vanatoos' bass is shocking, definitely, and imaging is good, but I feel like I'm missing some of the mid-range or highs, like the vocals are buried behind a wall. I've updated firmware, set DSP flat, disabled compressors (see the manual about these options), played with the bass and treble knobs, but whenever I flip back to the Miccas, I feel the mid/high clarity comes rushing back. I'll definitely say my Miccas need a subwoofer, and these arguably do not. And having them on your desk means you FEEL the base more, even with good stands, because they vibrate the surface you're working on. The fact that they high-pass filter themselves when you plug in a subwoofer is fantastic. Audio pros always say your own ears should be the deciding factor, but I'm certainly surprised how overwhelmingly alone I am in this, and just wondering what's wrong with me, lol. Especially when Randy says the treble is intense, but I'm turning the treble knob way up...
@GBR9794
@GBR9794 2 жыл бұрын
audio science review already show the mid dip so you probably want to dsp correct it with a dsp microphone.
@overnightdelivery
@overnightdelivery Жыл бұрын
You're not alone. I was blown away by the T0s but wasn't as impressed with the T1s. Mainly because the Amp in it is underpowered and will cut out if you play them loudly at like 85-90dB for any amount of time. But the actual sound quality is pretty good from a medium distance and is great with a sub which allows the amp to play louder without being stressed out. The default settings are on the dark side of things and found the treble needed to be increased significantly. I have a pair of NHT Super Zero speakers and found the treble on those were much better by default but after increasing treble by 3 clicks on the T1 or T0 is sounded much closer. I think the default settings being not so great could partly be due to the DSP used or Class D Amp but I'm not sure. I still prefer non-powered speakers and class AB amps for bigger rooms.
@audx2338
@audx2338 Жыл бұрын
@@overnightdelivery Thanks for your info and perspective. After playing with them more, I found that moving the treble dial to 9 o'clock brings them MUCH closer to the sound of my two other pairs of speakers and I feel better about recommending them. I hope I can try the zeros sometime, though. Furthermore, I recently emailed Vanatoo about some surface damage one speaker had near the woofer, and the main engineer of the company responded right away with lots of specific ideas... and then helped me identify that the surface damage was compromising the air-seal of the woofer and radiator, so I'm super impressed by the company! And while this doesn't affect my impression about the tweeter and overall balance, I need to fix the woofer's seal before making any final conclusions. Finally, I got the Pro-Ject Speaker Box 5's that have also been recommended here, and I really love those, and they look incredible on a desk, and are super detailed, but the Van's always win for bass.
@thomasmleahy6218
@thomasmleahy6218 Жыл бұрын
Base?
@normanham6142
@normanham6142 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Randy. What is the music and who is playing during your segues between segments? I know it, but can’t remember.
@vitaliistep
@vitaliistep 2 жыл бұрын
Strange that they don't produce their own subwoofer. Thanks for the review.
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