CHEAPER and BETTER Than a Class B Camper Van!

[@evedallas2271]

It would be perfect if it had a small couch or theater seats. Hate the dining table who wants to relax at table when you can have a recliner or couch

[@vanbrendle]

We had a Coachman 220QB with theater recliners instead of a dinette. We used a couple of nice stands to eat which stored behind the theater recliners when not needed. Really miss that RV.

[@brendagrothier967]

Turn the dinette into a couch with pillows in the back and use tv trays or bed trays to eat on.

[@mikelyon5595]

Great minds think alike!

[@barbarajomullen79]

I prefer the table.

[@Kai-y7y1f]

Easy swap out. Loss of some storage though.

[@shelleywalker6225]

As a solo traveler, I love everything about this Class C RV: the length, the corner bed (hate Murphy and folding beds), the dinette with the car seat tether, no slides and the decor is nice. Well almost, wish the price was better.

[@mixflip]

Just curious but why do you hate Murphy beds? I have never heard anyone mention that before.

[@willlazenby1050]

Nice, but the only thing I'd say is that roof at 3:48 looks like it has had a lot of foot traffic and scuffs for something that is brand new which makes me wonder if they have had to fix things like roof leaks and stuff already and explains why there are so many marks and what appear to be potential repairs around the vents.

[@bc5299]

those units were advertised extensively at 79.995 recently. I think there is lots of room to move on that 'sale price'. Matt isn't lying about getting you a better price.

[@erikalmighty]

Especially with broken blinds.

[@mr.intensity2685]

Chevy people help me out. Why didn't Chevrolet give this 4500 the same (ugly) face-lift as the 1500 pickups? I thought it was a used RV!

[@myrrhavm]

I remember not all that long ago. Before a certain someone moved into their new house. That RV would have $89,999 with a Matt price of $69,999. I like the J dinettes myself. Good little couples unit with the grandkids over the cab.

[@paulg2132]

I really like this one! I like that it has no slides. (Lighter, Less Expensive and Easier Maintenance) The shower looks nice and I like the kitchen.

[@kensmart1976]

Way better value than any Class B van!

[@jaygold4467]

Way worse value than a class B. They leak like a siv. They're built poorly. They suck on gas. They lose their value.

[@sonoma4525]

4:11 Youre not fat dude. youre just full of joy and happiness

[@agentoftheschmoke5257]

This is perfect! What really ties it together for me is the dinette set, the oven and the porcelain toilet. Thank you both for the great walk through reviews.

[@RoadArtAdventure]

I travel solo with two small dogs. The corner bed works for me. In my current class C the bed is on the slide out and that means when it comes in I have to fold everything up. I long for a bed in a permanent set up position. That bathroom looks good to me too. The size is sufficient. the one beef I would have is the dinette. I wish there was a way to have a smaller dinette and one comfy chair to sit and chill in. After two years in my Jayco Redhawk, I have ripped out my dinette and replaced it with a desk and an executive swivel chair. It does the job for me and it’s way more comfortable. I also have a Chevy 4500 on my class C yes, we chugged a bit up the Rocky Mountains in Colorado but - hey, that’s what the slow lane is for.😂😂

[@jimp.7286]

Class c's really are the biggest bang for the buck. The bathroom in this was really nice for it's size. Cheers! 👍

[@eskieguy9355]

Not a huge fan of the TV in the bunk. Maybe if it had a U shaped dinette with something over the sink, that would be better. I like the storage in the back outside. I especially like the heated tanks. They did pretty well with limited space.

[@joshmatthews3450]

They’re cheaper because they’re worse. Listen, Class C ‘s (and B+’s) are definitely a lot more liveable, don’t get me wrong. I’ve camped in everything, and Class B camping is for close couples only. That being said, if you’re okay with the amount of living space, they’re built way better than any chassis RV. They’re held to automotive industry standards that chassis RV’s don’t have to abide by. RV builders are held to little regulation and that’s a big reason why they are full of problems. Class B platforms are built in tightly-regulated factories. Makes a huge difference in quality.

[@markjung2766]

I've never owned an RV but want to buy one. Interesting what you wrote about factory standards for the Bs -- I'd never thought of that. Let me ask you this: what did you think about Matt saying this Class C was only "this much wider" than a B? When I look at a C, I see the long side-view mirrors (compared to a B) that must make a C three feet wider than a B when you measure from side-mirror to side-mirror. There are so many narrow streets and state routes where I want to travel and there are semis coming the other way! Do people often get their side-view mirrors clipped off and destroyed by another wide vehicle traveling the other direction, or even the same direction? The whole reason I'm going to buy a B is because I don't like the width of the C when you factor in the side mirrors.

[@mrslcom]

Built quality on most Class B are awful as well.

[@ericalampley480]

For a vehicle to drive on United States highways it has to pass Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. Every RV does.

[@ChickIgloo]

No slide-outs are my favorite!

[@kimberthekamper]

I am a single traveler. Heavy on the clothes. What would be the best under 30 ft class C RV that has a large wardrobe, an oven and a island bed? I watch your videos a lot. Appreciate you and what you do.

[@femalism1715]

It is great to hear Jen's voice! Nice slideless Class C. Dislikes: 1. TV placement 2. step up to the bedroom 3. small (!!!) corner bed Likes: 1. BOC 2. exterior storage 3. no slides!

[@kathyortiz8774]

We have owned that unit on a Ford E350 chassis for ten years and love it. Ours has a u-shaped wraparound dinette that makes lounging to watch TV a lot more comfortable. The bed is great, the closet gives us plenty of room for clothes. We split our closet, 2/3 for shelves with plastic ‘drawers’, 1/3 for jackets, shirts, blouses, etc. Toilet and shower are comfy, without feeling crowded. I would prefer a larger sink, but the wife says it is fine. We do not have an oven in our unit, but we only used the oven in our camper, and later our trailer, maybe ten times total in 30 years, so we do not miss having an oven. We installed two 12V batteries and have plenty of power (batteries are under the entry steps). I installed an AC inverter and a night light for the grandkids over the power supply/power distribution center, and used one of the unused fused lines for power, so we have AC power anytime. This unit has been just fine for us. Joe

[@sherriweber7105]

Hi Matt and Andrea! For as small as this is I like it! I that storage outside. And the dinette. Nice shower just don’t like the curtain. Bathroom good for the size. Like the bed. I like the no slides. My dislikes are the blinds, no pantry, the step up to the bed and bathroom. Thank you Matt and Andrea!

[@catrie9965]

I like this size and floorplan, I just don't like the dinette. Give me a couch instead. Also, give me an option with more solar with battery system and less dependent on shore power and noisy generator

[@starletsatori8933]

I had a Class C by Thor 27' bedroom slide 2016. It was laid out exactly the same with a queen bed. I loved it.

[@sarahj.8372]

Super little review....I think the price is high for a simple no slide C..what I like is it is a very small c with exactly how Matt has categorized, replacing the B or B plus; with the ability to see out of the back and sides with windows, mirrors and the side cameras.., I love that is able to hold the true 40 gal of water which is superb for a 3-5 day expanse off grid and if you buy this size with better clearance,,,you want that...and the shower water saver, with not one but 2 of the superb kind of fantastic fans and the AC that may just work for hot places and we all seek that sweet temp spot. The nice size table booth and flip up counter are nice and close for 2 people who are just good friends to cook and set a nice table together and take a weekend...there is always a nice sized sleeping area for 2 people with that much wider, deeper and higher bunk Leaving the table and seating always free for 2 , the one window by your head to look out and open in the morning in both sleeping areas...one of bests part of camping to me, that early morning forest air..... My memories were many times getting the bunk in the upper area of whatever camper and I love that,,,rode in good family friend's truck camper bunk always to the ski hill and hr south of our homes at time and in summer when camping together with several families,,,, those memories just make the upper bunk cool. No window or too narrow makes it not cool and for longevity purposes I do prefer window at head. In small rig still lots of light w/o the cool front window,,,, Even without the pantry I think you could take a fourth of closet for that kind of hanging strong cloth cubby thing for light enough kitchen storage and the one LONG drawer easy to pull under one booth seat really helps that. I do not mind blinds...whatever in this size and even w/one sink you carry another little (now they fold out and collapse) basin for dish rinsing and cooking peelings collecting etc. and good to go. They had a solar panel too and non back breaking storage is great for your outside area stuff, the extra cooler and any easy to get to and set up or need to just have handy thing,,,I think you can really make things easier by far with that area. Prefer a shower door, love the porcelain potty and the real big bathroom mirror medicine and stuff NEEDED cabinet...that is cool. They have started skipping these way too much. I think you could enjoy the TV outside and Inside main flex arm one in both main bed and table...so no third tv deal....these small things often have that ans just a lot to keep up. That one solar pannel and 2 fans are wonderful helping to keep cool and energy with 30 amp. But with smaller tv amt, cheaper blinds and no shower door and not the fancier more expensive one piece front cab part and just less all over of "stuff" needed in even a 3 foot longer one..I know it is our times..but the suggested retail to me should be 110 and 89 plus whatever Matt price and ability to get slightly better could be. An Almost Perfect option for my sturdy enough and clearance enough fears of a B van or B plus for my area...so much so and so much less for new when comparing to even slightly used B plus or C and can we say 7 foot interior...that is huge...anyway I am calling my dream campground just to see if 24 feet and 7 inches plus another 2 with ladder would be an accept on a 25 foot minimum they want...I would think being a regular C and only issue they have is length for enough uniformity......just the slightly bigger look would indeed make this one heck of an entry option for me and an often solo overnight passenger.

[@Studiovette]

Loving the light grey cabinets I'm seeing Thor use more and more on their interiors for 2024! Also really liking that floor!

[@joer1757]

Six inches!!!! Gulfstream has the same floor plan but uses a 60” queen bed. Six more inches of sleeping space. I don’t know how they do it. Why you put so much emphasis on the bath shower and prime poop position while no one spend more than 5-10 minutes in the bathroom yet most of us spend hours in bed is a mystery. I wish manufactures would realize that most campers put a premium on their beds and kitchens. I never use the bathroom unless it’s late at night. Otherwise most campground have great facilities to shower and poop. Who wants to pump out all the time anyway. Give us a queen bed.

[@davefelix9975]

I love the honesty of you reviewing. You guys are great ❤

[@ArtstradaMagazine]

seeing this for sale for 78,000 brand new.. that is a HUGE savings over a class B these days.. This is a fantastic starter home for VANLIFErs and RVLifers

[@axeb5311]

I think I know what you mean, but I love watching him bc he seems fun and funny. He would be enjoyable at a party and would probably be funny. Although it is irrelevant to me, he does seem very knowledgeable. I like how he owns himself versus letting others define and label him.

[@Uncleharley77]

Just looked this bad boy up and there are many 2017 2018 2019 models for sale with very low miles for under 40k

[@ginnyk50]

A wraparound dinette would allow for lounging; I actually prefer those blinds to mds roll up shades; I like the control panel at eye level rather than down in the stairwell. You’re right about the corner bed, it’s a very practical unit if you get the right price. ❤️👵✌️

[@stevewoods8116]

How hard would it be to add a second TV? The TV would only be $100.00 but what would it cost to have the dealer put in?

[@geocacherny7030]

I definitely need that outside storage for my Walker

[@Augiebracerofam]

Like the great cargo capacity. Dislike the same high back bucket seats from 1973. Like no slides so it is ready to stop or go. Dislike the step up to the back. Like the higher price trash can. Dislike propane refrigerator. Thank you for sharing and have a great day.

[@Indian3454]

Great review. 6.0L V6 engine at 401 HP? I think maybe it’s a 7.0L V8? These are based on old style 454 cid engines. They are very reliable.

[@MattsRVReviews]

100% a V8. I was reading the specs off the website. There is always a chance that they changed something

[@JohnDoe-xm9ql]

True

[@edwardpate6128]

They are not based on the old Big Block Chevy but the LS small block platform.

[@almalek5574]

“You know what I am saying”. You couple are great with RV show!

[@clintondelp3465]

Matt, we love you and your relationship! Have been watching for 3 years at least. At some point climbing on the roof is a matter of risk reward. You are already loved. Nothing more needs to be done. Just make a joke! Really.

[@blairkinsman3477]

Hey so the sales price of the trash can is: $89,999 / 9,540 lbs dry weight x 3 lbs (it’s a medium) = $28.30, boutique kitchen shop sales price but not $174 sorry Matt .:. 👍🏽 reclining passenger seat; kitchen kudos (storage, flip counter, oven + microwave, big window - would like even a peel and stick backsplash ngl); interior colours; bonus decent ccc makes use of the nice storage space outside .:. 👎🏽 GC - GV is only 3700 lbs with a 2500 lb ccc so cannot EVER tow 8000 - hitch should be de-rated to 6000 and that’s EMPTY with driver only definitely KBYT (triple dislike safety first) .:. Valid comparison to B van I definitely choose this first .:. Thanks for the review M/A

[@BradWilson1969]

My likes are the small size, the lack of slide outs, and the corner bed, all of which work well for just me. My dislikes this time around are not about something being wrong with the RV, and are just about what works for me. #1 is the shower size. I've come to the conclusion that I won't settle for anything smaller than a 30"x36". I'm a little taller and wider than average, and I just hate bumping my elbows on a wall, so that 24"x36" won't work for me. #2 is the dinette. I don't need room to seat four people for meals, and would rather have a sofa that doesn't take up as much space. #3 is the bunk over the cab. I could use it for storage, but I don't need it to sleep anyone, and would rather have a lower profile roof with a larger rear facing TV and some storage in that area. Also I agree with Andrea about the step and the wardrobe. I would trip over the step repeatedly, and the wardrobe should have a middle divider where you could have hanging space on both sides, adjustable/removable shelves on both sides, or a mix of both.

[@lisat.8138]

I like this much better than the class Bs! So much space inside and out 👍🏻Love your dress, Andrea!!

[@geocacherny7030]

7:34 I bought two Eleven by fourteen fish eye for the back window

[@stevez340]

At least offer a sofa or theater seating option because for so many people an uncomfortable dinette and difficult to make corner bed is a nightmare floorplan😢

[@angelofthelight6650]

Hey Matt if you can find a Winnebago Minnie Winnie 22R that would be nice to see. I've seen them showcase but I think you would do them justice. It's very similar to the one you just showed with a few important differences.

[@michaelperzyk9500]

What's better than better, 😂 Is variety! 😅😂

[@chasesome]

Liken this unit and the options from the cute RV couple . Always a pleasure when they show what's available for us adults 'em those toys. (RV stuff).

[@larryhudson3930]

Better than a van, but only a full size bed.

[@Frank-James]

Love that it has no slides. I hate slides, in my opinion they are usually poor quality and can ruin a vacation when they malfunction.......And they do malfunction......A LOT!

[@madjack8893]

Good to know

[@BeepBeep-yu2ki]

This fellow is the salesman from hell.

[@bellevue260]

6.6 liter engine, not 6.0. Love the no slides rigs, nice and simple!

[@anthonyacosta5336]

Lost of Videos Here on KZbin About THOR ..Really Bad Reviews on The Craftsmanship And Them Not Honoring their Warranty

[@michaelur1561]

I went looking at some class Cs not too long ago, really thought I'd have to go above 30' to find what I'm looking for, but for the price i could possibly consider giving up on having a dinette + theater seats. Only thing I really wish was different was tv placement

[@mikep5126]

sold me but I'm really a Ford guy Dodge is a second unfortunately Chev is a distant real distant 3rd... I absolutely love the no slide

[@RoadArtAdventure]

I had such a horrible experience with Ford, not standing behind their products back in the 80s that I still can’t trust that. For me: Chevy every time.

[@KaykiddE]

I really do love this better than most Class Bs

[@walterkreitzman4460]

This is the RV that I’ve been looking for. I love everything about it. I will be looking to buy one probably at the end of 2023 or the beginning of 2024. Hopefully I can find one in south Florida on the east coast because that’s where I live. Again, this is perfect for me and my baby/she’s a dog next year. We plan on going on a lot of adventures together.

[@jacksonms212]

I agree for a solo this is the ticket . I would try to go full electric / solar though . I'd also try to go with a heatpump as well and a 12v fridge . Those things and this is perfect .

[@tjjump6343]

Think maybe you have the Mercedes mixed up with the Chevy for lack of CCC. Would like to get a unit similar to this one but cannot have it where I live, love hoa. Can have a B van though. Definitely would take out the dinette and put a 2 seat desk there for a work station. Great job as always Matt.

[@magnus466]

I love the fact that it doesn’t have any slides. Wish the dinette was a convertible bed with 4 seatbelts

[@davidk912]

Matt - DEMO TIP: Before you start recording, go through the MH and operate the stuff you’re gonna play with (blinds, refrigerator handles, etc.). Potential customers will like that, the manufacturers will like that, and your dealership will like that. Enjoy your enthusiasm.

[@keithhumpherys8343]

Fortunately, Andrea you did not injure yourself pulling a muscle in you leg. Even a simple misstep can cause muscle to knot up painfully that can last a week to go back to normal. Of course this is from experience. I have learned to take these events seriously. Even Matt should be more careful jumping down from those ladders.

[@Gius_13]

Those sun screen thingy majigs behind the windshield are what really sold me great feature!

[@patdud1979]

The prices are going crazy 🤯. Remember the good old days with 60k ish motor home 😞. But those prices are nothing compared to the Canadian market 😳 now these prices are crazy!!!

[@alnolan8574]

That roof looked like an 5 year old holding a caulking gun for his or parents .The decor was dripping all over the the place.

[@thatprcrawlerguy187]

Exactly WTH!

[@Lostcause1974]

That MSRP is bubble priced. A Chateau for over $120K? Come on Thor! Fortunately, that sales price is good. Love: 1. Floor plan. 2. No slides. 3. Sale price. Dislike: 1. Not a fan of bunk over cabs. It should be an option that can be added/changed at dealers. 2. Not a fan of exterior decals. It's 2023. Decals need to no longer be standard. Thor, save yourself some money. 3. Venetian blinds are not for everyone. I am everyone. 4. MSRP. Hope Andrea feels better!

[@williamjktkd]

I really just wish they can listen about switching the toilet and sink in the bathroom. Id much rather have a small sink with little counter top space so I can have a perfect prime pooping position.

[@roxannsawade2454]

We Love ours! Easy to drive, great pack & go for a weekend, easy parking & love the storage. We Love not having no slides, we prefer the Chevy chassis than Ford. Corner bed is ok,but the mattress was replaced with a thicker one. Be made the drawer under the dinette the pantry. Plan on replacing the blinds, but it’s fine for now. Also want to get a solar panel. Perfect for this couple age 62😉

[@madjack8893]

Loving the smaller size, but these companies need to start using Murphy beds. More space during day and pull it down already made up.

[@lorali1256]

Thank you guys

[@farmerdeb2863]

Love everything about this rv!! Perfect for one person!! Great price, too!!😊

[@marshaberg1337]

Beautiful little class C! I would prefer a couch or theater seat instead of dinette

[@JMVideos7676]

Upvote #198 for sticking the landing off the roof ladder. :)

[@cramer425]

I ❤ you guys. So sorry I wasn't able to meet you. Hopefully, you will decide to summer up here and another opportunity will present itself.

[@susanbauerslp]

This guy makes me want to buy an RV from him. 😂😂

[@Challway]

I really like this layout. Except. I would rather have a recliner or sofa instead of the dinette

[@MichaelSteighner]

I can’t figure out what kind of camera he’s using. I always see him reach out to turn around the camera, but it doesn’t look like anybody’s holding it. And then it moves along so it can’t be on a tripod. Such a mystery. Love the enthusiasm!

[@ShulaMG]

I like the dinette ❤

[@gj6209]

I love this RV! But! I agree..I prefer the FORD chassis and I love the dinette!!! I’d buy it!! LOVE THE CORNER BED! Great RV! ❤️❤️👍

[@Lostcause1974]

If I had a choice, I would go with the Thor Tranquility over this as a solo traveler.

[@ogdriver5334]

I have a Winnebago Travato with Pure3, unbelievably great.

[@FidelityRacing]

@1:36 - It has a 6.0L V8. It's your job to sell these things and inform people correctly. Just saying. This thing is cool. I'd get rid of the bed in the back and throw my gaming/WFH setup in that area with a desk and what not. Throw on like 1200w of solar and get some batteries and I'd be set. Thank god for brochures @2:47 lol

[@lynnleiby]

In your intro you state it's a 6.0L V6 but in the written specs you displayed it says 6.0L V8. It caught my attention immediately when you said V6, I was like, "hmm... could it be so?" But it does really look like a V8 so that's significant for power and gas mileage

[@dennisreed3382]

Always, always, choose the Ford chassis. Lot less trouble with it.

[@cappington]

Driver and passenger seats should be like class A seats. Rotate 180 degrees and recline. These are the theater seats. Put the dinette across from the kitchen. Ditch the jack -knife sofa which would make the entire thing possibly 4-5 feet shorter

[@shauncronin3961]

T V placement sucks eliminate the dinette and you got something there

[@thomasczyz1279]

I can’t understand why….they continue to put the toilet in the corner ,,I’d like to see them put the toilet next to the shower on a angle towards the door and a small corner sink….

[@catrie9965]

I feel like that makes too much sense for them to ever do it.

[@corncob_say]

I' dd like ta know what the difference in mpg is if no top bunk and with no top bunk does it handle better.

[@jerrytalley802]

For me, the double recliner was a deal maker. I didn’t want a slide, but to have the dinette to sit, work, or spare sleepover company, and the recliner, had to get a slide. Even jackknife sofa isn’t comfortable enough

[@wrongway1358]

Everyone I know that bought anything under the Thor umbrella wished they didn’t. Everything is held together with glue and staples. Good luck.

[@vickileo5242]

Love this unit, love the kitchen with the oven!!!! Also the bathroom is good and the bunck over the cab,!!!! Great job guys!!!!!

[@davenoidontwantto]

Always gotta stretch before those rv reviews!

[@geocacherny7030]

Having just sold my 2011 21qb I may be looking for a brand new class C

[@tchrof6th]

Andrea is so pretty in this pink!

[@nyneeveanya8861]

Only thing I would change is the toilet. That sits too low for some one like me. I’ve seen many class c where toilet is raised about 6 inches. Otherwise I love this layout.

[@stephaniesebring6118]

I have found that there is more leg room, in class C Chevy than in the Ford Class C motorhomes.

[@fallbrkgrl]

I really think it would be much better if it had a sofa, and have a couple of mounts for lagoon table(s)...ditch that dinnet! Otherwise, nice entry level, small RV. ❤️🌵☀️⛈️🌈☮️🐎

[@jmartinez562]

Andrea will be on Social Security soon ... Solid price for $89k.... I'd select a Ford as they will last 35-years into the future with little maintenance

[@1bsaxophone]

Hey Matt you need to do some more research on the GM specs on that Chevy chassis. It is a 6.6 Liter V8 option code L8T your horsepower number is correct at 401, it has more horsepower and torque than the 7.3 Ford V8. Also the GM 4500 chassis is the same (if not exact with in a few hundred pounds i believe 14300) GVWR as the Ford E450. Then 3500 would equal a E350. around 12000 gvwr.

[@donaldwallace1525]

I'm not an RV person but it seems to me that the European RV's are far ahead of American RV's in design and material quality. But I feel sure an experienced RV person could help me understand the diff's.

[@harryrimmer6830]

The biggest difference between the Chevy and Ford chassis is that the Ford chassis is built, and drives, more like a truck. The Chevy chassis drives more like a car. In my case, this means that my wife enjoys driving our Coachmen 21QB Class C mini-motorhome (which has virtually the same floor plan.

[@robertott2631]

The rug really ties the room together

[@gypsycat619]

I love no slides. It means nothing to break and easy access when parked. I think you should make Butt stickers and stick them on the side so people know the roof is "Fat Ass Certified"😳 (What is the height of the RV and the EGM?)

[@stevewoods8116]

Great review!

[@PaulPierlot]

Another great job Matt and Andrea and team! Wish I lived down there as I know you have the best deals in the country!

[@samariagraham4502]

Nice unit. Fun review!!

[@rustumanklesaria362]

Best life but prices are too too much.