CHEAPEST PEDAL KAYAKS | Lightning Kayaks Strike HD Pedal | Unboxing Review

[@KillerFuzzOutdoors]

Nice video, better than Aliex shh dont tell him

[@KayakDIY]

It will be our secret. 😂

[@larryjacobs4236]

Where can I buy it from

[@televisionpilot3551]

Love the design. I wish it was wider. And as a crappie guy, instant reverse is a must to stay in place

[@KayakDIY]

If you need instant reverse I believe the fin style drive is the wrong kind for you. You should get a Old Town PDL series kayak. The PDL is my favorite propeller based drive....almost my favorite pedal kayak period. Performance of the PDL series is awesome. Can effortlessly hold position in current unanchored....via instant hands free forward/reverse.

[@jeffbrinkman2218]

I assume it doesn’t have reverse without spinning the unit around. In my opinion that’s worth the extra 300-400 dollars.

[@denali2m4]

I support free markets and competition. However, this video is misleading and some of the comments unknowingly call it out. Reality: the original patent on the Hobie drive ran out. The reason the drive doesn’t have the features of current Hobie drives, is because those are newer patents. I’m not a huge fan of overseas knock-offs, but if they’re not violating patents or trademarks, then it’s just business and the consumer can make their own decision. This video is way overboard on “American Made” and patriotic. Just call it an inexpensive pedal drive kayak. To call it anything else is the antithesis of what this country is about. There’s no innovation in monetizing an expired patent. It isn’t wrong, and like generic drugs, it creates value. Just call it what it is. Ask a simple question: If the original Hobie drive went off patent, why aren’t all of the major kayak brands leveraging the technology? Simple - some are, but under a different brand so they don’t risk the parent company brand when they get called out. At a minimum, just say who is really manufacturing the kayak? Do you actually know?

[@oddjobs3025]

I agree he goes a little "overboard" with the US stuff, but...anyone happen to notice at around 4:20 one of the bags he pops out has Chinese writing on it???

[@guitardave3028]

There is never any truth in advertising, is there?

[@LarryRichelli]

For smoothness you cannot get better than the new hobie peddle drive,If your truthful with yourself is way better than others. Oh, I don't care where my equipment is made! Oh yea, Did I mention, you can't buy this as it is perpetually out of stock! That's ok cuz nothing comes close to the Hobie lynx!

[@panchopachangas4450]

@@LarryRichelli I believe it’s available directly from their website. I wanted one for my son and almost pulled the trigger until someone mentioned it doesn’t have reverse.

[@eddycoronado8381]

Does it do well in .waves

[@LarryTalbot_1313]

I don't know about everyone else but there's always an excitement that hits me whenever I see an unwrapped kayak-shaped box! What was inside that box was wicked cool too!

[@charmainevandiford6622]

I got two one for me and one for my Son. One has been great. One has had drive issues. Broke twice. First time they sent me the parts and I fixed it. Last trip to the beach for Vacation lost a fin and pin and broke another part. Haven’t talked to them yet about replacing it. I am thinking about putting a plug in the drive and cutting a trolling motor down or buy a Hobie drive for it. What would you do I am tired of replacing parts. Always on the one. The other has been a tank!

[@katebeckinsnail910]

The companies better be scared cause this thing is sick for the price. Definitely gonna get one when I upgrade from my pelican 110hd. And its from here in Minnesota.

[@KayakDIY]

I agree. Lots of value for the money compared to competitors.

[@rommelalba4904]

The reverse for the pedal drive is the only thing missing on this kayak. I wish it has that feature alrdy that would make me buy this kayak. Its pretty good deal still👍

[@KayakDIY]

Rommel Alba I don’t find myself using reverse much on fin style drives. I have never liked how the reverse worked on the M180. Still not hands free. Only kayak I found it useful on was my Hobie Tandem island. Otherwise I rarely used reverse on my other fin drive kayaks. I suppose if you really wanted reverse you could likely find a used Hobie M180 fin drive cheap and slightly modify it to fit the Lightning Strike. It is a really close fit from what I noticed. I just pack a small paddle and use that for the rare times I need reverse. Only time I consistently want reverse is when I’m trying to hold position in current and don’t want to anchor. However, I wouldn’t even be happy with Hobie’s reverse system for those situations. Fin drive is awesome for ability to go in shallow water, but the weakness is ability to easily go in reverse. That is where propeller driven kayaks work well. However, propeller drive pedal kayaks usually draft more and can’t go as shallow. So it is a trade off. No such thing as a perfect kayak. I just like all the other features on Lightning kayaks like molded grab handles, recessed snag free rudder, standard deck padding, and the front hatch which seals better than my Hobie Pro Anglers have. In fact this kayak is really well sealed and has smart design features.

[@rommelalba4904]

Thats true! Do they have dealers in Northern CA ?

[@blakehurst8695]

I really like this kayak, can't wait to see how it performs and can you stand in it

[@KayakDIY]

Yes....you can stand up. I will share a FULL ON THE WATER REVIEW with flip test and paddle vs pedal. Also can compare it to footage I have of similar kayaks.

[@jamesharrison2]

So I'm having handle issues. My original ones broke then I got high end handles and they broke the first time out. What handles are good for 100 to 120 pound kayak

[@KayakDIY]

What kind of kayak? Also, what kind of handles are you mounting?

[@jamesharrison2]

@@KayakDIY I have a 2016 fs12 by ascend.

[@cyberyakeradventures]

I have watched a bunch of your videos. You crushed this one. Great job sir.

[@KayakDIY]

THANKS! 😊

[@naeemmemon8150]

Instalment per detey ho kya?

[@wendelldupre2392]

Can the Hobie turbo fins fit this drive?

[@marcocuevas4479]

Can you go reverse on these pedal drive ??

[@KayakDIY]

Not unless you put drive in backwards. It is like the previous generation Hobies. Reason why I like this company is it is one of the few Hobie style pedal kayaks that is American made and built well. Many of the other imitators are built really cheap. Lightning kayaks are built very well and cost fraction of the price of Hobie and others.

[@TWC6724]

So the freedom drive comes included in the kayak price?

[@alteravi2790]

I'm looking to buy one do you guys have a bigger model or is that the only model please let me know thank you very much

[@KayakDIY]

I’m 205lbs and 6ft 2in tall. The 12ft 6in Lightning Strike HD is the only current offered model. They don’t have a larger model. Maybe in the future. I will have a on water test video probably this coming weekend or so.

[@alteravi2790]

@@KayakDIY thank you .. Could you please tell me what's the price and what's comes with it I really appreciate you reply

[@nathanfleming46]

How well wood the boonedox landing gear mount on that kayak

[@KayakDIY]

It looks like it has space to mount. But don’t currently have landing gear to test fit.

[@nathanfleming46]

You should do a video of installing the boonedox landing gear.

[@gregthomas5741]

Is this kayak made with the thick roto molded plastic? Or is it made of the thinner plastic like Pelican uses?

[@KayakDIY]

The thick high grade stuff. Lightning Kayaks Use Rotomolded Super Linear HDPE. It is a premium kayak at a budget price. Even the hardware/accessories mounted to the Lightning kayak seems high quality and not the cheap Chinese stuff. This kayak should last. The Pelican kayaks use Twin sheet thermoforming and HMWPE which is totally different process and material. I used to work in rotational molding (rotomolding). I actually can speak from experience on the materials and process.

[@christoffchefful]

Sorry but not the cheapest pedal kayak the HOODOO Tempest 120P Pedal Drive price is $1,149 that $600 cheaper and made to fish plus Weight capacity of 440 pounds not trying to offend you still a good video Big thumbs up for your time making it and and the information

[@cyberyakeradventures]

The extra rails are aluminum and replace the plastic ones. My plastic one broke day one but lighting (Jenna) was all over it and sent me a replacement right away.

[@leowania1852]

how much ?

[@milton_quadros]

Great review, congratulations. Indeed, it even seems that the manufacturer has fixed all the issues we saw in recent Hobie releases (Outback 2019, Compass and Passport), adding value in copying and enhancing Hobie solutions (except the pedal, which seems to be Hobie's MD V1 , 2008, whose patent has expired). We only have to know if this hull has the same multi-purpose lakes, river and sea features of the old Hobie Outback. If you have the hull characteristics of the Hobie Outback by 2018 and the build quality of the Hobie, it will be wonderful, as we see increased traking when kayaking is propelled with the paddle. And with almost 1,000.00 USD less.

[@KayakDIY]

It does appear to have a multi-purpose hull. My friend Robert Field has been using it a lot in Panama fishing salt. I already know it does well on rivers and lake environments. For reference I’m 6ft 2in tall and 200lbs. So in testing that may be relevant to viewers.

[@jasondeansmith79]

I’m not sure how I came across this but this yak is awesome

[@juanvelazquez228]

Hey brother, I just recently started watching your videos. I must say I really like them. I also noticed in one of your videos that you like in or around Cape Coral. That makes us neighbors.

[@KayakDIY]

Yep. I live In SW Cape Coral area. 😊 Love this city.

[@juanvelazquez228]

@@KayakDIY Awesome, I do too! I live in the Pelican elementary neighborhood.

[@TexanInVirginia]

Love the overall design and features of the kayak! Not a fan of having the take the drive out and put it in backwards to go in reverse...

[@KayakDIY]

Yeah if you want reverse a lot the go propeller based pedal system. Even the newer Hobie kayaks are not that convenient for reverse. The newer Hobies you have to pull a chord to switch between forward and reverse. Only time I find reverse really useful is when not anchored and trying to hold position in current or wind.

[@Carraroebouncingcastles]

Looks AMAZING GREAT kayak👍👍

[@feustond]

I got a hoodoo tempest peddle drive for 1200. But this one is sweet.

[@jayjohnson5016]

how are you liking it?

[@feustond]

@@jayjohnson5016 you won't be disappointed if your looking for a nice peddle drive to start out. Tons of storage and great quality

[@ChiefDoesStuff]

Man, this thing is pretty well thought out! Makes a lot more sense than spending $3k on the Hobie.

[@KayakDIY]

For less than $3,000 you could get the Strike HD kayak and a Bixpy. It would fly across the water and you would have pedal, paddle, and motor option! The Strike is a great kayak for the money. I will be doing more vids on it soon. I already have an on the water test video about ready to upload.

[@RedfishInc]

The equivalent Hobie is only $1600

[@frogglidd1951]

That is a beautiful kayak I have wanting gear one awfully like knitting green camel

[@smileycamel5635]

Front hatch doesn't latch, it just bungees...be nice if it opened not ways like the bonafide...almost useless storage under seat...seat should adjust forward for shorter folks...and more height positions ..but instant reverse is a must have...a few hundred dollars more you can get as that.

[@rubenfelix6452]

I was sold till the reverse . If I'm fighting a fish don't have time to mess with the reverse

[@mandalamon4703]

What was total$

[@iowamatt2519]

why were the instructions in the plastic bag in chinese?

[@KayakDIY]

Iowa Matt because they likely got the aluminum rails sourced from China. They used plastic track rails originally, but switched to aluminum. So they sent me the upgrade kit. They make the kayak in USA. Just small components like the tracks might be sourced overseas. Common practice for small companies growing. Making every little component requires lots of tooling and employees to keep up. If they did source components from China I can’t tell. The quality is top notch. By the way I’m from Iowa! I grew up in Boyden, Iowa! My family still lives there. Miss it.

[@iowamatt2519]

@@KayakDIY I don't blame the outsourcing for small parts, love it that they are mostly made in the USA. I'm near Cedar Rapids, spend most my time North on the Yellow, Turkey and Upper Iowa Rivers.

[@blipsmann1985]

Ok. You said made in USA and you just pulled something out of the storage well and I seen Chinese writing instructions on it. So you really mean assembled in the USA Right?

[@lmartinez3633]

That kayak really is spectacular

[@weiw3721]

Like that Kayak. However you seem to go a little overboard with the "Made in the USA" thing. I noticed some of the parts were wrapped in Chinese news paper, so there's that. I don't mind things made in China. They make junks at junk price for people who likes it cheap, they also make top of the line products like your iPhone.

[@KayakDIY]

I completely went overboard. I did it a little tongue in cheek as humor. I found it funny that they call their pedal drive the freedom drive. They have a lot of pride in making the kayak in the USA so I felt like playing around with it. Not everyone will get the humor but that is fine. I accept that I’m a bit weird. 😆

[@richdunn9774]

I’m in Massachusetts. No way I’d be on the water now lol.

[@KayakDIY]

Rich Dunn 😂. I don’t blame you. I’m going to Iowa this week for late Christmas with my side of the family. Won’t be doing much kayaking either. Honestly despite living there most of my life I’m a bit scared. I’ve gotten spoiled with the Florida weather and no longer tolerate cold very well. Haha

[@richdunn9774]

KayakDIY I hear you. I’ll still be out trout fishing just from shore if the rivers open ! Merry late Christmas , been waiting for you to do this review. I’ve been wanting one since Robert Fields put out his video about them.

[@KayakDIY]

@@richdunn9774 People being vocal about wanting me to do reviews really helps me get the kayaks. Manufacturers seem to look for those comments. So I appreciate hearing that. I buy some of the kayaks by rotating my inventory and selling off some. However, if companies can hook me up with a unit It greatly reduces channel costs. Also, I don't always want to sell the kayaks I have to buy the next because It makes it hard for me to make comparisons. I have a few more kayaks to review and have to definitely get more vids out on this kayak. I'm also curious if my Bixpy will fit the drive well like Hobies. One could buy a nice lithium powered Bixpy motor kit and this Strike kayak for less than one Hobie Outback or Pro Angler! That is pretty awesome.

[@avelgomez1]

Are you sure this thing is American made?? I am paying attention to your video and I saw all the plastic accessories coming with Chinese manuals, this is made in China and relabeled in the USA? Tell the truth we do not want put $1700 + dollars in a Chinese plastic

[@KayakDIY]

The hull is made in the USA with premium quality plastic like Hobie kayaks. The Lightning kayak is manufactured & assembled in the USA. They likely get the aluminum track rail accessories sourced in China like many other kayak companies. It is still MADE IN THE USA. The kayak is dang well made. They even put 3M seals under their hatches and some of the stainless screws have O-ring seals. This kayak is built very well.

[@dp4auburn]

The music level is way too loud for headphone users btw. Impressive kayak for the money. Basically copy Hobie’s design, tweak it a bit, fix the obvious flaws and sell it for cheaper. I like the seat adjustment for up and down as Hobie’s and Bonafide’s designs are much too complex and will ultimately break. Also, did Lightning pay you to do this promotion for them or are you sponsored by them? You seem to be pushing it way too hard to not be reimbursed by the company. Transparency in this matter would be appreciated by the viewers I’m sure.

[@KayakDIY]

*In video description I had a disclaimer stating the kayak was provided free for review. However, this has become such common practice in the world of KZbin and paddlesports I honestly thought it was common knowledge for my viewers. Aside from that Lightning kayaks has not paid me to make a review. I haven’t been given money from a kayak company to make videos for 5yrs +. Only time I was ever given money was from Pelican International and it was so I could customize kayaks and buy materials. Lightning kayaks never gave me any expectations. They just sent the kayak and said go have fun. We don’t even have a contract of any kind. I get several kayaks a year from all brands. Some I like a lot and others are so so. Some are so bad I ask the company if they really want me to make a video or if they want the opportunity to fix their product. For instance I tested an inflatable kayak that was terrible and developed mildew after two days due to being so hard to dry.* As for the audio, I appreciate the feedback. I have since then gotten better microphone setup. The problem was I didn’t have a good microphone so I had loud and soft parts in footage. Then I tried to audio adjust and computer makes it sound louder than the phones. It is just bit hard to gauge how much to boost audio in editing software. Well with new microphone I likely can leave audio alone and not boost it at all. It seems to pick up fine now. Sorry for blasting your ear drums. 😉👍

[@dp4auburn]

KayakDIY thank you for your honestly. Just so you know, I wasn’t trying to be negative about your video or anything like that. I was genuinely curious because you really went the extra mile for this video. Honestly, after seeing your enthusiasm, they really SHOULD be paying you. You did a great job on the content and presentation. Keep up the good work! 👍

[@joeguzman1781]

HOW MUCH DOES IT COST ?m

[@theloosemoose8200]

No instant reverse is a deal breaker for any kayak ...looked great up until that point

[@KayakDIY]

Fin drives win for torque and acceleration on straightaways. They are close in speed compared to popular prop drives (favorite being Old Town). The fin drives win in shallow water. They lose in instant reverse argument. Instant reverse prop drives are really nice for holding position in wind/current without an anchor. For everything else I can live without instant reverse. Everything has its pros and cons. Just need to buy several kayaks like me. Problem solved. 😂

[@berniesbend]

Rated for 400 lbs. yet your feet are in water all day long if you weigh 300 lbs. They need to change the rated weight limit or fix the cockpit.

[@josegarza55]

How much

[@KayakDIY]

$1599 to $1799 : lightningkayaks.com/collections/kayaks

[@andrewwoyak6908]

You made me laugh...I approve

[@MSmith-jf5wo]

Less money than a Hobie, with some of the same features! I DO like the bottom design. (I tried a Hobie where I live, but bent the "Flappers" 8 or 9 times in just one day... Too may stumps! Went with the Titan).

[@KayakDIY]

This is one of the few pedal kayaks I like to paddle or pedal. It does both very well. A lot of pedal kayaks “paddle” hard. So far that is one thing I like on this kayak a lot. My full stability and performance test video will come out next. I will push the kayak to point of flipping and try to compare to other kayaks I have tested. Titan is a great kayak too. Just bit heavy and bulky....but if you are looking for a truck on the water that kayak is it. Ultimate cargo carrier. I’m just here to help folks see what the kayaks can do and share the features. I’m not here to push one brand over the other. I can earn commission from sales of all brands so I have absolutely no incentive to be bias.

[@MSmith-jf5wo]

@@KayakDIY Yep, that Titan IS a "TRUCK" alright (F-350 or so!) Haha! At the time, only 3 'Yaks were offered to me. Hobie, Old Town, and the Titan. (Plus, they gave me a very good discount with my Old Town trade-in!) . I also just bought a regular "Paddle-Type" fishing 'Yak, for anyone that wants to borrow it. Just a little 10' one I can carry with one hand, with the other hand holding my tackle box and rods (and at mid 70's, that ain't doin' too bad, I don't reckon!) Haha! I watch EVERY one of your videos, 'cause you seem to "Tell it like it is" (and it's getting harder to find people that are Honest, nowadays!) I look forward to your next tests and videos...

[@outdoorjay1385]

Cost???

[@KayakDIY]

Outdoor Jay I did list price in the video. It is also linked in video description below the video as well. For most up to date pricing the links in video description are most reliable. Once I upload video with me saying a price that price can become outdated and could change. At time of filming it was $1749. However, this kayak is so dang patriotic it should be priced at $1776 😉

[@abdulrasid3360]

I've dream to own this pedal kayak for a long time😞😞😞

[@Thewoodenalchemist]

It’s nice but it’s not the cheapest. I’ve see one for 1500 new and this one is 1799 about

[@KayakDIY]

I did a few videos on the cheapest pedal kayaks. This was one brand and I did a few others. This one has the best build quality of the cheaper pedal kayaks.

[@phillipklocinski2205]

Why would anyone buy a pedal drive that requires you to remove the drive and rotate it , just to reverse direction. Try doing that while fighting a fish. Also no apparent place to mount a power pole.

[@KayakDIY]

For years Hobie sold pedal kayaks like crazy that required flipping drive around to pedal backwards. People didn’t seem to mind and caught several fish. Kayaks only recently developed power pole mounting in their designs. I’m sure I could find a way to mount a power pole. I don’t usually use one though. I kind of like manual stake out poles. I feel I can better control my position. However, power pole is really convenient and I’m sure I would like one.

[@mrpush2855]

If it only came in a prop drive model!

[@KayakDIY]

Can fit a watersnake asp t24 motor in the pedal drive slot and make a homemade motor kit. I have made several for Hobies. Lithium batteries are becoming more affordable too.

[@vnftrows9938]

Hahahah some people call this a cockpit hahahahahahahahahah this guy hahahahahahaha. You got my like

[@floridaboy3432]

that looks like hobie outback+hobie pro Angler=Lighting

[@cameronyoung2004]

If i wasnt under quarantine then i would be

[@sergiomontes1601]

Nice yak!

[@TheWillz02]

So if I aint American I don't buy this thing?

[@KayakDIY]

I think anyone should take pride in products their country makes. If your country makes a better competing kayak then buy it. If not consider this great kayak for the money. A kayak made clearly with a sense of pride is the kind I want to buy regardless of the country. More I looked at this kayak the more pride in craftsmanship I saw. They even had 3M foam backing seals behind their hatches. Their screws had o-rings. Little details like that tells me they care about quality.

[@dancingtrout6719]

its got flippers

[@KayakDIY]

They have a new Air 9 inflatable pedal kayak that is pretty dang durable. Discount code is KayakDIY. That gets you $700 off so total price is around $1000. I’ve been using a lot of inflatables lately that companies send me. They have been incredibly durable. Ran them over with truck to prove durability. Just making you aware. Maybe it is for you…maybe it isn’t. 😊👊

[@TheMass33]

Buying this with my income tax.

[@KayakDIY]

Well worth it. Very competitive price in the kayak market for features and quality. My top choice for best value pedal kayak priced $1500-$2000. My 2nd choice would probably be Topwater PDL 106 at $1999.

[@mr.c5647]

Shitty design on the drive, what happens when your fishing and you got a fish on and you need to go in reverse, do I need to bring someone with me in case my hands are busy and I need to reverse they can pick up the drive and turn it around???? I would rather spend the extra money to have a drive that is better and has reverse on it on the fly.

[@KayakDIY]

No one said it was shitty when Hobie had the same drive for 15yrs+. The drive isn’t great if you have to go in reverse. It can be done by flipping drive backwards. However, where it shines is in its ability to run really shallow. Prop drives can’t go as shallow. This drive will get you further than most people can paddle comfortably. Just need to weigh what is important to you. Might not be the kayak for you. 🤷‍♂️

[@mr.c5647]

Bid don't get your hair in a bun, I'm just saying that if you get into something it's just one more step you have to do in order to go in reverse, were as in a pedal drive you can instantly pedal backwards and pedal forward without pulling a lever. That's all I was saying. It's just easier.

[@fantomphoenix6170]

So you say this kayak is American muscle, but there’s no god damn V8

[@miamiwax5504]

Would prefer a propeller

[@rdrockett1]

Why would an American made product have Asian writing in the accessory pack

[@KayakDIY]

Most kayak companies have hardware accessories that are are imported. The kayak hulls and majority of labor is in the United States. I grew up in a small U.S town. My dad is an engineer that dealt with Asian companies producing parts for a local business. Small businesses in the town have to outsource some small labor intensive parts because they don’t have the labor force or tooling to make every little part. Yet their products are still considered made in the U.S.A. This kayak might have track mounts imported but all the rest of the kayak that matters is clearly made in the U.S.A. My kayak has been stored outside in the florida sun and still looks great. I paddle/pedal saltwater and it has been great. It is definitely an American made quality kayak. Some Asian made kayaks are great too, but it is hit and miss. FeelFree and Vibe are made in Asian countries and are great quality kayaks. Lighting Kayak is a quality USA made kayak that simply appears to have simply imported some small hardware. My kayak came with replacement tracks and hatches. That is where you saw the Asian writing. The company switched from plastic tracks to nice aluminum ones. They also switched from screw hatches to twist lock ones. Those components are likely imported but appear to be high quality parts.

[@mahfujkajal]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@josephg4924]

👍👍

[@KayakDIY]

Thanks! I will have more testing on this kayak to share videos on.

[@windowclean100]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@KayakDIY]

Thanks for stopping by the channel again. 😊

[@windowclean100]

KayakDIY No problem dude🤙🏻

[@lenincastro1908]

Your company export direct My Country ECUADOR.

[@AliexFolgueira]

First 😀

[@MSmith-jf5wo]

Hey Alex... When are YOU gonna take one out and "Flip" it...? Haha! Just kidding, Buddy... I like your "TAKE" on 'Yaks too, and watch your channel also!

[@AliexFolgueira]

@@MSmith-jf5wo lol thanks, already done and live in the channel for a while

[@cavvrd1542]

what are you a stock owner, just preview it

[@KayakDIY]

Nope. Just having fun with it. I thought it was funny they call the drive a freedom drive. I felt like kinda poking fun of the references to USA. They have a lot of pride in having their product made in the USA so I felt like playing off that theme a bit. I own zero stock. I was paid zero dollars by them to review. I was given a kayak, but I’m given tons of kayaks so nothing special. Should have on water review in a day or so.

[@skim4me]

American made garbage, just like American made cars. You get what you pay for. Hobie is th only kayak I'd buy..

[@ingridhempel9556]

‘merica

[@thayingxiong5975]

Made in america but why have Chinese wrapping paper? Lol 😜 jk

[@KayakDIY]

Some small hardware components are likely sourced, but main kayak hull and the really important stuff they have made in USA. 👍 Unlike companies such as Vibe which are produced in China or FeelFree which is Thailand.

[@stevenbrill4902]

propaganda bs details thats what i need to know not saleman bs

[@joemartin6439]

Bs

[@KayakDIY]

BS what? It is a quality kayak. Anyone looking at the plastic and materials can see it is way better quality than the Chinese brands. Reason I like this brand is they still kept their prices pretty low. I obviously sensationalized the made in USA part for fun. There are a lot of USA kayak companies but I think Lightning has been good about keeping prices low for the quality they deliver.

[@alfredramirez3131]

Nothing budget about $1800

[@KayakDIY]

It is compared to Hobie which is $2700-6,700

[@ormonddude]

The Patriot Talk is Corny as Hell - TRUMP LOST lol

[@KayakDIY]

Wow... so what you are saying is Democrats aren’t patriots. Thanks for this comment. If you aren’t a patriot then you are the enemy and part of the problem in this country. If you don’t love this country then get the hell out of it. Countless immigrants travel here for a reason. Pride in products being made in one’s country is not something to be ashamed of. ✌️ out

[@ormonddude]

@@KayakDIY What I am saying is Plenty of other Brands many made in America that don't Douche off about it

[@ormonddude]

@@KayakDIY Whereas cosmopolitan conservatives often supported international cooperation and admired elite culture in other countries, fascists espoused extreme nationalism and cultural parochialism. Fascist ideologues taught that national identity was the foundation of individual identity and should not be corrupted by foreign influences, especially if they were left-wing. Nazism condemned Marxist and liberal internationalisms as threats to German national unity. Fascists in general wanted to replace internationalist class solidarity with nationalist class collaboration. The Italian, French, and Spanish notion of integral nationalism was hostile to individualism and political pluralism. Unlike democratic conservatives, fascists accused their political opponents of being less “patriotic” than they, sometimes even labeling them “traitors.” Portuguese fascists spoke of “internal foreigners” who were “antination.” In the 1930s some French fascist organizations even rejected the label “fascist,” lest they be perceived as beholden to Germany.

[@ormonddude]

In Other words you're Creepy as hell

[@JeremyRayValdez]

Ugh... lame.

[@KayakDIY]

Why because it costs less and is made with pride in the company’s home country of the U.S? What don’t you like? I realize I went a little crazy with the USA theme. I live in USA and obviously have pride in my country.

[@daviddavid1320]

cringe

[@KayakDIY]

Yeah…Patriotism is so cringe. Maybe instead of kayaking we should just burn 🇺🇸 flags. Definitely shouldn’t have pride in products being made in our country. That is so horrible. 😉 (intense sarcasm)

[@daviddavid1320]

@@KayakDIY If I want to see patriotic shit I'd watch The Patriot. I could give a shit where something is made. Capitalism am I right?

[@joemartin6439]

Patriot bs