Cheater?

[@nestor1208]

It's either a cheater on drugs, or a drunk GM

[@omega-7337]

drunk magnus on smurf acc

[@nestor1208]

@@omega-7337 if it's Magnus, then he'd have to be on drugs as well

[@most_sane_piano_enthusiast]

@@omega-7337 drunk magnus is the 2nd best player in the world

[@WowieSeagull]

@@most_sane_piano_enthusiast well ding is world champ now sooooo

[@Destin._.]

@@WowieSeagull but is not best in the world

[@ReconissanceMa]

That king move at 2:08 was probably the engine compensating for the human mistake of moving the queen to the same light squared diagonal as the king.

[@ozAqVvhhNue]

Possible, but in the analysis the engine says that both moves, the queen and king moves were inacuracies.

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

@@ozAqVvhhNue Probably depends on depth of analysis, it's not uncommon to see engine show two completely different evals of moves on different depths

[@pairot01]

@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 unless you show me it is, then there is no reason to think it's a secret brilliancy. Most likely the opponent made that move themselves because they saw the alignment, but the engine doesn't like it because there is no threat.

[@theLuBuofmen]

Human mistake ? i'm cracking the fuck up man

[@BruceWayne-jh4wh]

@@ozAqVvhhNue Link to the game?

[@Harag_]

Did he run out of time and could not rely on stockfish by the endgame?

[@alexvolute7454]

probably

[@shreyasshenoy7215]

ig the bot takes a fixed time which is too long in time pressure and risk getting flagged

[@jamiee4630]

Yeah he probably had no time to look at the moves, so he kept checking, probably to win on time

[@danialBeard4653]

That's what I thought

[@Frostgaming335]

Thats really only one way to beat cheater idiots in chess

[@CanadianMoose]

That little time scramble tactic to win the queen never works in my games because people just physically do not play that fast. I really want to do it though.

[@pairot01]

if they don't play as fast as you, their time runs out and you win.

[@Shmicah1235]

At about 1200 blitz it happens, and it's pretty fun

[@CanadianMoose]

@@Shmicah1235 I’m almost 1400 blitz and it hasn’t happened yet

[@GardenChess]

Slower they play better for u

[@handsomewolf1909]

Usually at around 2k it works in no increment. Worked maybe 60 percent of the time

[@scottforsythe37]

Knight blunder might have been to tank overall accuracy and duck red flags from the automated cheat detection

[@rc4828]

You are right

[@avocadoodnt]

Also mouseslips can happen to cheaters and great players too

[@sck3570]

@@avocadoodnt Wow did you just use the words "cheaters" and "great players" in a same sentence?

[@j3leaze]

​@@sck3570 he's saying that it happens to everyone, not saying that good players and cheaters are equal

[@CyVinci]

@@sck3570 reading comprehension

[@WalmartHobo]

That knight blunder is something I would do trying to go for a fork

[@Handles_Are_Bad_Lol]

same

[@SisyphusQuit]

Ditto

[@SorakaOTP462]

He's actually too good of a player that system thinks that he's cheating, that's why he's using stockfish with earliest version to give him advice on a bad move.

[@Fugitive685]

That would actually be funny if it was true

[@sht3885]

If a one were too good of a player, then the one should know what is bad move too.

[@kallnuxlive8095]

*He's the type of guy who would try to iron his clothes while still wearing them.*

[@nishyanthkumar]

...I do that

[@tiletapper4ever]

​@@nishyanthkumar for real like who doesn't

[@donnelleraeburn9207]

Super accurate ngl

[@oicmapper]

thank u for calling my brain stockfish 😊

[@jozimastar95]

Relatable

[@itchykami]

I'm not saying it was a cheater, I'm just saying this was more comfortable for him than a chess engine suppository.

[@TheRealLegacey]

for those wondering his account has not been suspended

[@nukes9122]

How do you know

[@galahadlance]

@Nukes Maybe he's the guy

[@artembogush5665]

why would it? Even if he was flagged, it would take some time before final decision. It's just way too early to say that.

[@Prometheus4096]

Because you can't detect cheaters.

[@Boppin.]

​@@Prometheus4096 that's not true. Cheaters get banned all the time

[@NoirOrchestre]

The knight Blunder could have been a misclick.

[@ssp2237]

Probably

[@asdewq321qa6]

Due to how knight moves i find it hard to believe someone misclicks with it.

[@animegod978]

all knight moves have at least 1 tile distance , i don't think it was misclick , more likely a manual play.

[@NoirOrchestre]

I meant he could have wanted thé knight on c5 instead of b4. Maybe a mouse-slip would have been a more appropriate term.

[@MrSimpsondennis]

only reason for hanging the knight there that I can see would be to create a passed pawn. Hence why the queen came instantly afterwards (to pick up the b2 pawn)

[@aliensconfirmed3498]

That doesn't create a passed pawn. Better way is to capture b pawn ans next a pawn. Even a 2000 rated players will play these moves with 1 second on clock. No way they miss this after thinking for 20 seconds.

[@insertshadowyhere]

Nah, seems legit. Must just be a grandparent.

[@JoseMerino-gw6xd]

Me thinking my vision was bad when the screen got blurry 😂

[@Bruh-bk6yo]

In my opinion, it's the most dangerous type of cheaters. They're making you sure them playing suspicious and you will probably consider every their move as "brilliant", "crazy". Then performing some "amazing sacrifices" (blunders, just hanging a piece) to distract and make you resign. That would be genius.

[@donnelleraeburn9207]

2:14 that king h8 line, has been played in world chess championship when magnus was around, and that same move in that same exact position has been played in on or his recaps where levy said if you see any human playa queen f7 king h8 they need to be drug tested immediately.. edited, it was not the same position... My bad. I hate chess

[@petartumbov1214]

Chess hates you as well. Have a nice dreams

[@donnelleraeburn9207]

@@petartumbov1214 I'm gonna have ptsd re learning the gorb and anti catalan. Rip me

[@aliensconfirmed3498]

Few days ago I met this guy who found 2 difficult sequences in 2 games. I realised he is using Stockfish although I am not sure what form was he using it in. Initially he would make normal looking moves but in middlegame and endgame he would take long pauses and come up with engine precise moves. Normally I would give up but as it was 3+0 I thought I can win on time. So I started blitzing out moves like crazy like not even thinking for a second. Eventually I defeated him 5½-4½ and my every win was by running his time out. He wanted to keep playing but as soon as I got lead I just messaged "your fish is too slow" and left.

[@BChandl13]

Wow thanks for the update. I think I speak for everyone in saying we were on the edge of our seats about your chess games.

[@aliensconfirmed3498]

@@BChandl13 Makes me glad

[@uniquename6925]

That is the most satisfying conclusion if true lol

[@aliensconfirmed3498]

@@uniquename6925 100% true. Bro found combinations that most IM's and GM's will not find in that time format. With that skill level he should have gone 9-0 against me specially with me playing bullet (hence making more blunders).

[@robertling2221]

This is a stupid story. We as people are able to find precise move sequences, and then blunder behind them. If the guy was always taking 3+ seconds to find his mive and was always making top 3 moves then he us cheating. Finding a puzzle position, or setting specific traps is very normal behavior.

[@Milo-rc1fe]

He probably made some mistakes or blunders on purpose, to avoid getting detected of cheating.

[@baksban74]

Better question is not how they blundered a knight in one move, but how they missed mate in 1.

[@hgeorge7357]

Using bots takes time and he prolly didnt use it in the endgame to avoid getting flagged, either that or he's just aint cheating

[@versuzzero5335]

I always miss mate in one lol. Especially if it's that fast.

[@aliensconfirmed3498]

@@hgeorge7357 No way he is not cheating. Any 2000+ can't possibly play like this. 2500+ will not play like this even if drunk.

[@superjet1007]

​@@hgeorge7357 well stockfish is able to play ultrabullet with 15 sec on a clock, I don't think that there is a problem with time while cheating

[@simon774]

He is playing as good as Hans Niemann😂

[@StONeROP_007]

🤣

[@naruto-kun1839]

Lol true few moves are genius and few make no sense

[@MjuMeli]

GMs after playing 100 000 games and 1.5 moves into a game: "I've never seen this before"

[@BChandl13]

Levy isn't a GM

[@AndrewYac]

Levi is an IM, not a GM

[@the_mad_fool]

Levy: 2800s don't just blunder knights like that! Guess The Elo: Are you sure about that?

[@JoelXEditz964]

Bros so good he checkmated a cheater gm in the future im sure

[@perthlocalguide2092]

its very unlikely

[@dhirajjain1739]

that definitely looks like a cheater, a 2800 player missing so many mates !?

[@HellsFallenAngel1]

7:44 Nb4 could've been a mouse-slip'd Nc5

[@tamtran5763]

That guy plays like how I would play if I was on a diet of crayons.

[@akogames6205]

I think his point of blundering a knight was to make a distraction while he gets his king out of the fork you where going to do with your horse

[@Mohamed-ge4rp]

hey anyone know the music lewy is listening to

[@himanshuatri9117]

I think levy make better premoves than hikaru. Hikaru may premoves 10-20 moves but he knows all of them are kinda forced. When levy premoves he is making them with the hope that opponent will blunder and opponent actually does it. Clearly here hikaru is showing better chess skills but what levy does is more fascinating to watch.

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

No, just no.

[@Saskaruto16]

In the FGC we would say Levy is making a read on his opponent with pre-moves, where as Hikaru just does it during forced sequences to save time, in the FGC this would be a "canned" sequence.

[@heartpaid6767]

@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 yes, just yes.

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

@@heartpaid6767 That's why Levy is so high in bullet. Oh wait, he isn't...

[@heartpaid6767]

@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 oh wait, you're polish...

[@chess390]

the guy was like ahh my knight. Stockfish what did you do?

[@Lightop.]

I think At the end he thought "I am just winning now i should stop copying stockfish moves and just spam moves to win in time and lost

[@RuyLopezTheSicilian]

This would be a tricky guess the ELO

[@saramorin4792]

Gotham trying hard to make every move last longer than 3 seconds to not get accused of using stockfish

[@nicolasashbaugh2239]

I bet it was just drunk Magnus Carlson on a burner account

[@TaIathar]

I think Knight B4 was to open the pawn line and try to make a 2nd Queen since he had 2 rooks and Queen still in the back.

[@LittleLightUwU]

i rated 700 would have blundered that knight to make way for my pawn, but that wouldnt have made sense because the rook is down there waiting like a ballista

[@Fazedd_Clips]

bro is so good he beat a hacker

[@asiamies9153]

The opponent's user is Gabrielidito

[@mr-shadi]

2:08 was a move to deny the queen a exit bc that was one of the squares that queen could have gone. the queen had only 3 squares to play with that are f1 e2 and before blacks move h5.

[@TinohCosta]

I've stopped playing online chess, it's not worth it anymore

[@HolyKaeros]

I was not expecting to hear Katana Zero in the background there!

[@SacTheQueen]

05:45 what was that? 😂

[@iced6983]

Thought cheaters were a rapid thing

[@adamstastny8743]

i believe that cheaters playing blitz/bullet are just unintelligent. Not only do they use cheats, they use them in a wrong gamemode..

[@psybranet]

Levy chillin

[@mn1907]

he just beat stockfish without knowing it

[@speedchessbattles4047]

I calculate that at least half of my opponents on chess sites are either cheating or a bot.

[@bobthrepeeoh]

haha. all the ones that beat you then huh? most people lose about 50%, so i guess you mean if you lose they must have cheated?

[@speedchessbattles4047]

@@bobthrepeeoh I'm going by the amount of banned accounts, strange looking and acting accounts, and how many bots and engines, there are out there. My channel has many games where I played someone who got banned.

[@bobthrepeeoh]

@@speedchessbattles4047 ok man, thats not a personal attack im not surprised there are lots of cheaters in a place where people are anonymous and games dont matter. i just thought the 50% stat was funny, because if a sites ELO adjustments are any good at all, everyone wins and looses about 50%.

[@speedchessbattles4047]

@@bobthrepeeoh There is an algorithm the developers use. I come across bots and cheats way more then I used to. I devoted half of my channel to the ones I found.

[@StheSharknl]

Give it up for captain Levy Fisherman! Catching stockfishes left and right 🐟

[@stambata19]

nb4 is probably a misclick it happens sometimes

[@happyapple8679]

2:50 Is bishop c8 just win for black? (before black play Knight d3)

[@happyapple8679]

@Katrann it's not, if white takes bishop black can take the pawn with check and take the rook

[@happyapple8679]

@@LegionaryRecruiter take what?

[@mistikalcanavarlarparlamen3265]

Wtf katana zero ost??

[@scottnickless7796]

bro that dudes just got a better gaming chair

[@chesssofia0911]

really weird

[@Gogoli123]

Bro blundered queen

[@demetdemirkolbeyenal6636]

Anybody know why he blurs the names

[@kaloyankunev4889]

He might have mouse-slipped

[@hazard6300]

Was that katana zero music I heard

[@malachimishkin3378]

bro still lost😆

[@arturabraira316]

I just loved the katana zero music

[@theviewer9363]

Quee f7. I think they were keeping your queen from moving to h5

[@GlobalWarmingSkeptic]

Cheaters are using these bad offbeat openings so often it's becoming obvious when playing a cheater anymore.

[@saulcalderon9777]

Only if you lose they cheat.

[@industrialactivist_]

How would anyone cheat tho? Doesn't stockfish take 10 secs to calculate every move?

[@arch_wyd]

Welcome back to the Gotham Chess Show and its another Trompowsky!!

[@a.tigerjr.6132]

I am only 600 but I don't understand the point of cheating in chess. Isn't the reward to naturally win because it is your brain doing the work?

[@uchihaedito1209]

He just blundered queen

[@wool1701]

"That was weird" Not in my head, they ran out of time to engine evaluate and transformed into the shit they are

[@marcorizzo3854]

7:55 wasn't kd6 better because u take the rook? Im 800 so i may be wrong

[@qwerty389]

3:39 nd6 ?

[@yoka8587]

Death door or Tunic im not sure ? Celeste maybe ?

[@tryck7056]

song name at the start of the vid?

[@brantnuttall]

1:47 pawn hanging on a6?

[@AmericanIdiotPolitics]

bishop is defending

[@brantnuttall]

@@AmericanIdiotPolitics yes but bishop and queen are attacking. I was referring to before the bishop moved

[@ignDart]

@@AmericanIdiotPolitics no, Bxa6 Bxa6 Qxa6 but idk im not good, he either missed it or it was just bad as the bishop was no longer applying pressure and the queen was no longer defending?

[@happyapple8679]

@@ignDart no they both didnt, look at the white knight on d2 lol

[@happyapple8679]

@@brantnuttall Look at the white knight on d2 lol, after bishop takes, queen takes and the knight on d2 is no longer defended by the queen

[@zTeaTheCoffee]

Acc has since been banned

[@hassansadhan7021]

nice mate tho

[@nova_3010]

what.... just... happened...

[@DrJoseaJavier]

I absolutely love katana zero, I was pleasantly surprised when hearing it in this video.

[@BudgiePanic]

Partial engine user

[@NoNAME-qi9tq]

Looked like a normal game. 😂

[@jborn730]

Some programmer testing out their newest software? OR, you are now a 2800 online chess player! GM here you come!!

[@RustingPeace]

lmao that opening! i used that in the past on my 2500 im trying to relearn it recently

[@okkymahardika748]

Its normal

[@blk-sandi]

Katana Zero soundtrack??!!!!

[@Pancakesauce1]

Bro got bored of cheating so started playing normal but is still trash

[@Joe-wt6eh]

3:32 why no fork

[@infiniteloopcounter9444]

You don't know what is happening irl on the other side. I play chess and with a small kid sometimes I need to abandon games randomly or get super distracted and play dumb stuff or run out of time. My rating dips below 1800 and then goes up over 2200 when I am concentrating without distractions. Many cheaters are out there I think, but don't assume that someone 'thinking' a long time and then blundering is an engine. Most likely this behaviour is due to a distraction irl.

[@Larter232]

that ones actually really hard to tell tbh

[@ivoo87]

magnus carlson on drugs+drunk?

[@phantomqt7534]

Yo he was streaming he was drunk lmfao

[@Tranzoned]

Stockfish is an engine cheater he literally uses stockfish when playing

[@Jonosolos]

Bro, Levys thumbnails are top g

[@ColinTimmins]

I must be learning from Gotham, I’m new at chess and even I found the game flow did not make sense. Guys, don’t cheat. If you are slow and not good, getting someone else to “fight your fight on a chessboard”, what does that say about yourself and then go tell your mom and dad how much of a cheat and coward you are. Getting a bot to do your work is dumb. Program it to do the job yourself IS the right way and show how good you really are in the open. Want to cheat, cheat against Stockfish by writing something better, be inspired not a looser. 😊

[@margiriskamblys6285]

Guys anyone saw from what country that guy was?

[@asiamies9153]

The user is "Gabrielidito", seems to be Myanmar

[@VideosMPDO]

Why do I feel like I have already watched this video?

[@mrdr8695]

Petition for Levy to go bald if this channel gets 100k subscribers. ⬇️

[@mrdr8695]

@@yedshalnark8953 lol 9th

[@themarine6803]

Yes

[@Okayletsgo212]

Signed

[@rocky_027]

Well the goal is completed just need levy to go bald

[@A_3000]

Definitely cheater. Probably 2000+, uses the bot for the first half to gain advantage, and then plays himself

[@happyapple8679]

no he totally legit i think, just someone want to play new account , watch their previous game :v

[@A_3000]

@@happyapple8679 Well, he might not cheat every game, so maybe check a lot more games

[@poppinlochnesshopster3249]

Bots can't premove, nor play anywhere near as quickly as this.

[@azaktivalasienergiaendoter814]

@@poppinlochnesshopster3249 my bot can both

[@A_3000]

@@poppinlochnesshopster3249 That's why I said he plays by himself in the second half. The first half of the game was precise same 1-3 sec time rule that bots have, and the times he did take time, he intentionally blunders a knight. Very very obvious tactics that cheaters use. Ofc, there is a 1% chance that the user is genuine.

[@tabularasa9576]

Are you saying you beat an engine? Don't you dare

[@Aajd549]

congrats on 99.9k subs

[@Bosco2i]

When Someone play batter than so just call it hacker

[@kartikiyer-3335]

Report him for cheating!!!

[@spikybullet]

Thing is you can you stockfish parallel on other device by registering opponent moves every single time. For being safe you need to play some inaccuracies or "human moves" in between. Since the game was 3 minutes. And our dude is smart. In last 20-30 second this dude running out of time to just registering levy's moves on other device. So he played by himself in last and got checkmate afterall he doesnt have that 2800 skills/moves.... That's what I think 🤔

[@Histepford]

as a person who plays b6 and Bb7, im offended

[@potxtoe]

no but in this context of the opening the enemy played, im pretty sure its a weird move to fianchetto the bishop to b7

[@Histepford]

@@potxtoe true