Cheese | SciShow Tangents Podcast

It's the long-awaited cheese-stravaganza! And it's every bit as melty, crumbly, stretchy, and stinky as hoped for. We dip into some fetamology, we stretch our nokkeledge of cheese applications, and we unwrap the shocking tartrutho about a cheese we thought we knew!*
*The real cheese names I butchered into puns: feta, nokkelost, tartuffo. All delicious, go try some!
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[The Scientific Definition]
Cornish Yarg’s rind
Pule animal milk
Emmental cheese surroundings
[Trivia Question]
One of the oldest unopened cans of Cougar Gold cheese
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[Fact Off]
Using cheese to study the neuroscience of disgust because it’s not dangerous/unethical
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Environmental remediation in Emeryville, CA using cottage cheese whey
[Ask the Science Couch]
“Addictive” qualities of cheese (contextualizing casomorphin and the endogenous opioid system)
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[Butt One More Thing]
Cheese mites are pests but also delicacies in Mimolette and Milbenkäse
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[@elizabethcook1577]

Our cat Tonks does NOT appreciate "Stonky Tonks Badonkadonk"

[@markedis5902]

20:25. There are approximately 6400 species of mammals. Good luck with Etruscan Shrew’s Cheese

[@GMOPeyton]

MY CAT IS CHESTER AND I CALL HIM THE CHEETAH YOU STOLE ME

[@MrMeherenotyou]

To Jump onto the Pets real name vs. called names. My lil' black cat is named "Sir Emmerson Pucklesworth III", but I usually call him "Mr. Puckles" or "Fuzzbutt"

[@TheQwuilleran]

That is the standard nickname/shortening of it, yes 😋

[@ChroniclogicalJeff]

What's a pirate's favourite cheese? Yarrrrrrg!

[@teknophyle1]

murican cheese is cheese. basically cheddar and water with a dusting of emulsifiers to allow the water to thoroughly mix. i’m gonna call it hydrated cheese

[@mmminno]

Canadian American Cheese has more lactose than any aged cheese - so it's a much meaner cheese than the average

[@LawTaranis]

Another Canadian war crime...

[@lyledal]

"Ask the Science Couch" suggests that once upon a time all the gang were in one room sitting on a couch.

[@ninamarie177]

I think pre-covid they recorded in person

[@358itachi]

From the days of their now defunct 'Holy F*cking Science' channel. It was a yellow couch set, around which they had an unstructured fun.

[@Arindam1262]

Exactly correct! It's a relic from when they recorded in person and Stefan was on the podcast, so it was divided into the Everyman Couch (Stefan and Sam) and the Science Couch (which was Hank and Ceri)!

[@avsgriffy]

The science couch is a real couch. Pre pandemic we would see it in tangents and scishow news show

[@darcieclements4880]

Somebody needs to let the disgust scientists know that the smell of preserved crawfish is unbelievably triggering for the majority of people. Specifically the kind that they make for people who are studying invertebrates in college. Our professor told us stories of all of the people throwing up and we thought he was joking. I got hit so bad I couldn't actually move and he had to do the dissection in front of me with a bucket just in case. I did not throw up but spontaneously in the middle of it a different person who kept insisting they were fine the entire time did, lol. It's not dangerous it's just the combination of formalin and crawfish is really really potent. You could use a extract of this in small amounts and pretty consistently trigger disgust safely in people I think. And it's definitely the combination because I can handle either of those absolutely zero problem by themselves.

[@waamasta]

Can't wait for the Superfund Sam videos

[@osmia]

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[@ivytarablair]

+100!!

[@daederosss]

The Super Fun(d) Sam Show sounds great.

[@osmia]

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[@xollst]

Not gonna lie, i know at least three other people than myself who listen to this show (we are all coworkers, you are one of our science shows we listen to when not listening to true crime lol). All of us would 100% buy a compilation book, be it hard cover or soft, of all your science poems! They are so amazing! Every single one!

[@ivytarablair]

YES! POEM BOOK PLZ!! 🎉

[@KY_CPA]

37:35 Superfund Sam ❣️ What an amazing name, to go along with the amazing show idea

[@bradleynelson960]

Wait! Someone else has the “bird man” nickname! It’s even my license plate on my car. Hahaha!

[@dangerousflyer4485]

That's wild

[@markedis5902]

According to Wikipedia France has the most varieties of cheese at 107 however Italy have over 2500 regional varieties of cheese

[@Suspense1376]

I resent all of the American cheese slander. It’s just cheddar cheese with an emulsifier to make it melt easier! There are plenty of cheeses that do something similar to accomplish ooey gooeyness.

[@arc4705]

13:11 Sam Schultz is the smartest man alive

[@lizziewahl]

I just love this podcast. Guaranteed giggles!

[@Jenny-fk3ke]

some highlights: 18:40 sam going to his mind palace 22:48 “Swiss cheese maker Beat Wampfler - his name is BEAT WAMPFLER-” *laughter* 28:07 this has become my favourite stock footage of all time

[@rexroof]

American cheese has a lot more lactose than other cheeses. I believe that is because it is completely un-aged. aged cheeses have a lot less lactose.

[@AManCalledBigTime]

Can I say, that I started watching these shows at Hank's bidding, and I am liking everything so far... except the music volume... Y'all are soft spoken enough that when that intermission music hits, it hurts my drums somethin' fierce.

[@Finvaara]

Amusingly, I guessed stinging nettles for the wrong reason, because thistles, which aren't in the same family as stinging nettles, are a source of modern rennet that doesn't come from animals.

[@darcieclements4880]

I knew there was a cheese made with stinging nettles actually I think there's more than one, but I didn't know that this one was going to be one of those. The description threw me off and I thought it was too obvious but maybe I'm just weird and know too many odd things.

[@JoeMazzolaTheFirstPersonCook]

My cat Kitkat we sometimes call "the Gobelin."

[@lilystagner1234]

I LOVE these 'chit chat' videos!! Hmm, I think it would be interesting hearing you talk about how your relationship with the internet has changed/has changed you over the years?

[@victoriaeads6126]

NileRed JUST did a video where he used science to figure out American cheese. It's not quite as terrifying as you might think.

[@darkunicornblood5140]

Hank saying "I want to eat cheese from every mammals milk (except people)" and I immediately think "omg what would Whale cheese taste like!!" and now I really, really wish I would be able to find out lol

[@adamphilip1623]

Natures handbag is a stomach?! Can't help but wonder if Ceri heard that one on the way out XD

[@markedis5902]

The lowest levels of lactose intolerance are in the UK, Ireland and the Scandinavian countries with the lowest being in Denmark and Ireland. Italy, who make the most varieties of cheese has 72% lactose intolerance in its population

[@h2olt]

25:15 Cougar Gold Is legit a fantastic sharp white cheddar. Really similar to Kerrygold Dubliner.

[@ramzikawa734]

To get in on the intro part, my cats are called Saida and Mustafa, but we sometimes call them Saidaliah and Mustashfa, which are Arabic for pharmacy and hospital. She’s sometimes also Saida Girl and he’s also sometimes called Doofus.

[@dangerousflyer4485]

We used to have a cat named suki, and we would call her magukums, suki magooky, suki soo and sookums she was amazing

[@Andre_the_Lion]

Sam puts the "Super Fun" into Superfund

[@lightfurya2087]

I call my cat shadow, buddy. my cat toothless is skitty, she who must never be pet.

[@arc4705]

30:35 Not to be uncouth here, but this pleasure-disgust association is not that surprising to anyone who has finished a 'self-care' session and gone "wait, did I really just get off to that???" 😅

[@ZedaZ80]

Thank you for bringing up tofu! I'm in the "tofu is cheese" camp, it's just a low-fat cheese which makes it not nearly as fun.

[@leelarson1952]

Always good to start a new Tangents episode with several tangents. Great cheese poem, Ceri! Another fun excursion with you all. And I'm so glad I can tolerate lactose, because I would be hard put to live without cheese.

[@theswiv]

Yarg is SO tasty!

[@alysonlautar7359]

was not expecting that Spiders Georg bit at the very end

[@CorvidGlass]

No mention of casu martzu? AKA Maggot cheese. It would have been a good cheese for 'Butt one More Thing.' The cheese is intentionally infested with maggots. The maggots eat the cheese and their excrement is what makes the cheese soft. By the time it is ready for consumption, a typical casu martzu will contain thousands of maggots.

[@aidanclark196]

As an addition to this, everyone should go watch nile blue make american cheese as a bonus. Also what does Hank have against American cheese? Melts great, tastes good, the bits of it that aren't cheese aren't like plastic or whatever, just powdered milk

[@Jenny-fk3ke]

cornwall mentioned ==🏴‍☠️😎 It’s wild to me that some usamericans don’t know what stinging nettles are. They’re *everwhere* over here.

[@BobDaniel]

Food and addiction both involve cold turkey. 😀

[@frankmacdonald5827]

I listen to this while driving earlier today and I could not believe specially when talking about gross cheeses that you never brought up the Sardinian Cheese Casu Marzu!

[@rachelgreer1518]

As someone with an eating disorder, thank you for not perpetuating the myth that foods are addictive! My treatment team have expressed to me on multiple occasions how false this rhetoric is and it contributes to really dangerous beliefs and behaviors in vulnerable people like me.

[@darcieclements4880]

Agreed. I think there's probably certain things that are called food that have properties to them that are addictive like alcohol, but the majority of things that people talk about being addictive foods is not exactly the same thing as addiction. Basically it would have to have withdrawal that caused negative physiological side effects and not just psychological cravings. So like I developed an allergy that means cheese is super dangerous to me now fairly late in life, and yeah it's extremely painful but how bad the cravings are but they don't actually have any negative physiological effects it's just a psychological dependency as far as I can tell. I'm quite sure that we grow to associate certain nutritional profiles with certain flavor profiles and that's probably a big piece of it because you have to figure out how to balance your diet again if you're in a dairy dominant culture and suddenly can't consume it anymore.

[@emeebee3827]

yall are so creative w the pet names!! my eddie is either just eddie or “eddie betty,” and wick is only “mister wick.” they don’t get other nicknames beyond “sweet boy” and “handsome man” (used interchangeably, of course)

[@anastrixnoodles]

where did you get that toucan, Hank? it's beautiful

[@theratman202]

My grandma had a cat named Nyuska (pronounced as “néw-ska” (pick it up but don’t pick that cat up)) and she was a menace so very rarely anyone would call her that. Majority of time it was very affectionately stretched out “duuura” which in Russian basically means stupid

[@crystalcoolidge6297]

Haha! Tofu is now, in my mind, soy cheese!😂

[@esheyw37]

For the record, Hank clearly has the correct pronunciation of Spiders Georg

[@RSturtleness]

A can of easy cheese and a box of Triscuits = a banquet.

[@briannaarnold6053]

To the part of the brain that activates when liking the icky cheese is also the same part of your brain that is stimulated when facing challenges and things you may not necessarily want to do. If grown, it may be connected to will to live in older people or those that have a traumatic event.

[@kylieebrook]

can we please get an episode on yogurt too now lol

[@leelarson1952]

Not "Fact Off" worthy but tied-in to the trivia question is that Washington State University sports teams are Cougars.

[@markedis5902]

Wisconsin Bang is a variety of human milk cheese. There’s also City funk and Sweet air equity.

[@NotaSeaBass]

Emeryville is not now, nor has it ever been part of Silicon Valley. It borders Oakland.

[@NatuNuarat]

I couldn't believe it when I heard SIBERIAN cheese. Went too Google it, it was SERBIAN 😅 now the world makes sense again. It was hard to believe the most expensive cheese in the world was from Russia, this industry is not big or famous here, it's just getting started.

[@IceMetalPunk]

American cheese gets a bad rep, but it's really just cheddar, water, sometimes oil, emulsifiers to keep it all mixed and creamy, and preservatives. So nothing about it is anything less than creamy cheddar, really.

[@joanhall3718]

I wish you had talked about cheese as a living food. Like yogurt or kimchi it’s full of microbes that are good for your microbiome. (This isn’t true of cheeses like “American (or Canadian)” cheese. Older aged cheeses like Parmesan Reggiano have more bacteria and the chemicals they make (short chain fatty acids).

[@alexstauffer3359]

10:47 Kraft singles are not cheese according to the FDA, rather it is a processed cheese product. NileBlue just posted a video of him making it himself. It worked rather well: https:kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpKqf3Sug5qNY9E

[@llsilvertail561]

O_O unexpected Spiders Georg

[@theperfectbotsteve4916]

ah cheeses crust... cheese product is called cheese product because it has other things in it and is Diluted enough to not be pure cheese its still very much cheese

[@lutilda]

Tofu is cheese as much as any other vegan "cheese". And sadly that means that Kraft American cheese is more cheese than tofu. 😂

[@michaelmcgaughan8198]

Superfund Sam!

[@kylevanzandbergen3285]

Ham says every cheese name sounds made up, like there’s some that aren’t 😅

[@ivytarablair]

SUPER-FUND SAM

[@theunknownunknowns5168]

Ceri. I like Ceri. Pay that lady more. Also as customers at any service (like retail or trades..) you receive as a rule of thimb, be sure to let the hierarchy know if you think that person deserves a raise.

[@toniesteele88]

This might be something other than an addiction, but I went vegan 5 years ago and the one food that I found myself literally day dreaming about for a while was cheese. So, there's definitely something going on there...

[@primordial_platypus]

Would that every mammals milk include those of the monkey variety?

[@myrmatta1]

I LOVE CHEESE!!!!! 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🐈 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀

[@CraigUntlNytTym]

Nobody is ever referring to Canada or any part of south or central America as "American"

[@stephentomsky9576]

Kraft cheese is processed cheese, which is where you melt down cheese, add chemicals to help preserve it and then resolidify it.

[@Bibi-kv2oj]

Hiii

[@primordial_platypus]

Kraft is a pasteurized processed cheese food product. You could leave out the cheese and not lose any meaning.

[@markedis5902]

You should start the campaign for real cheese to educate people away from processed muck

[@juliangillespie7454]

'Promosm'

[@misttylyn]

I know I’m in the minority but I hate cheese, including fake cheese. I hate butter and I hate milk, unless it’s ice cream.

[@adamphilip1623]

Kraft american "cheese" is to real cheese what orcs are to elves.