Who invented Sauce? - Jerma The Eternal Cylinder (Part 2) Stream Edit

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Originally Streamed on February 3rd, 2023
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[@Dogsineed]

The first innovator of sauce was Vincent Van Sauce, or more commonly known as Vinesauce today.

[@hooty8703]

That's the guy whos famous for his "Vine" sauce, which is interesting, as it's actually produced from Mushrooms

[@NutBreadMSMC]

@@hooty8703 you’ve never picked a fresh mush off the vine?

[@therunner_]

Sources indicate that it probably dates even prior to that, and it is believed that it was actually Michael S. Sauce also known as Vsauce in present days

[@SwizzleDrizzl]

@@therunner_ Vinesauce and Vsauce stem from the same ancient sauce ancestor anyways

[@G-Mastah-Fash]

I always wondered why Vinny has that iconic cro magnong skull shape

[@drcheddargoat9817]

My favorite type of "chill steam" where I am constantly stressed that the adorable little creatures will be consumed by the giant cylinder of death

[@spacebassist]

The chill is the ice in your veins, so comfy!

[@doifhg]

He had his emergency whiteboard prepped and ready for a sauce rant

[@Kaxology]

he NEEDS to know about Pepe Silvia

[@jacobsokiguess292]

Jerma scripts all of his streams ahead of time while he's high

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

Doesnt everybody

[@cataddict_]

5 trebhums and abraham lincoln is truly the dream blunt rotation

[@pravkdey]

Have u seen how much they succ? Better be a cigar sized spliff

[@ZxybzzYT]

Brand new sentence

[@notsanger]

bed of chaos as well

[@flamingobble]

As a UK Jerma viewer, who gets to see these streams start live at 2am, Cheltie’s a real hero.

[@MrSimpleton]

Agreed, I doubt I would be seeing Jerma content if not for Cheltie

[@polarnxt4059]

you smell like cheese

[@ayoplo]

I tried to stay up and went to sleep at half one .__. He HATES the UK

[@Zuckerschock123]

We need an EU week or something

[@etcollector3560]

Same, I'm from Portugal and I was falling asleep when the stream started

[@jeremytitus9519]

Everybody commenting on how quick these edits are: Jerma sends the raw recording to Cheltie before he streams it on Twitch, on account of Cheltie has MAD dirt on him (I mean WICKED fucked up Aristocrats level stuff).

[@MrSimpleton]

I knew it was all prerecorded

[@CandyManSC]

*Aristocats

[@SwizzleDrizzl]

@@CandyManSC Jerma learned his scales and his arpeggios

[@jeremytitus9519]

@@CandyManSC Jerma will do a hyper-racist orientalist impression right to an immigrant’s face. He will say “it’s not racist, because it’s a cat!” And he’ll believe it.

[@GayBrain]

Julius Caesar Andy

[@ferretgazette8355]

why am i actually so invested in this game's lore

[@shogunpug4071]

Because it's a good story and universe. Silly characters don't disregard good lore

[@Skyraider119]

I'm invested in the lore of the first sauce

[@solarprogeny6736]

it's good

[@G-Mastah-Fash]

This game succeeds were Biomutant failed horribly.

[@smells109]

because it's actually unique and interesting with a neat premise. which every other game DOES NOT do

[@-Mopo]

This game is one of those games you'd have life lasting traumas if you played it when you were like 6

[@ralek592]

The only disturbing thing is the guy having tree branch legs

[@Peachy_Fuzzy]

The giant unstoppable cylinder would have made 8 year old me have a panic attack

[@7Lexmillion]

Like Pikmin

[@absolutemaniac7368]

@@RancorousSea all your comments seem to be you getting mad at nothing

[@AurrenTV]

Only Jerma could call it Rat-tat-tooey

[@187jesu]

I swear Jerma is like an Alf type alien the way his mind works. He’s the only person I’ve seen who calls it that

[@rablat965]

Jerma writing out whole ass theories on a whiteboard for questions that could be answered with a single Google search

[@7Lexmillion]

I love his curiosity even if he lacks practicality

[@J0J0Reference]

I imagine this game is an exact representation of the inside of Jerma’s deranged artificial mind

[@jeremytitus9519]

Rampant AI Andy

[@themafiaman7554]

@@jeremytitus9519 AIDA andy

[@PlayBatty]

actually insane andy

[@J0J0Reference]

@@jeremytitus9519 Oh my god it all makes sense! He’s been active for over 11 years, A.I. typically go rampant after 7. That fully explains the last four deranged years!

[@deecomposerr]

the few real braincells trying to survive after the majority of his psyche has been replaced by twitch-made mechanical implants

[@slippingbugs]

The fact that Jerma went quiet at the elder lore dumps and was doing recaps goes to show how invested he was(me too this shits interesting)

[@Wetdoger]

You are giving him too much credit, he probably looked at chat for half a second and forgot everything in the game

[@thelegalsystem]

I swear I left the stream for 5 minutes and I come back and he's ranting about the origins of sauce. I hope Jerma reads a book about anthropology someday.

[@Addsomehappy]

He's been there while humans were inventing the first sauce, he just wasn't paying any attention

[@PowerSpirit50]

Jerma and Holly on the couch is like a sitcom.

[@amberheardslawyerprofessor5266]

My dream blunt rotation is Jerma, Ballfondler, Greedy Grinner, Mr. Green, Mr. Satan & Zerma.

[@Addsomehappy]

Jerma, please log in back into your main account.

[@SwizzleDrizzl]

Dream blunt rotation: Jerma, Vdub, ratboy genius, mr. greenz, the edgy fish from finding nemo, catboy jerma and Scoot

[@mikhail_SKII]

"The Eternal Cylinder" sounds like 2ndJerma video title but it's already actual name of the game

[@Queggletank]

These writings on the whiteboard are the SCRIBBLES of a MADMAN. Don't let him read philosophy I IMPLORE you

[@jacksobrooks]

I'm imagining Jerma reading someone like Nietzsche or Jung and just becoming a normal person. Like, all his weirdness was the result of something messed up on a fundamental that could be fixed by reading philosophy.

[@Queggletank]

@@jacksobrooks jerma fighting his jungian shadow (Jex) LIVE EVENT

[@Chloe-lh4hs]

@@jacksobrooks i'm pretty sure we already have an explanation of his weirdness - adhd

[@Soulraven2735]

God help us if he ever reads Karl Marx

[@Queggletank]

@@Soulraven2735 "And so, they wrote this manifesto, and let me tell ya, it's a doozy. They're all about this idea of communism, where everyone gets an equal share, and no one's got it better than anyone else. It's like, imagine a world where everyone's got a piece of the pie, and no one's hogging all the toppings. Now, I know what you're thinkin', "But Jerma, that's never gonna work! People are naturally greedy, they're always gonna try to get ahead." And to that, I say, well, maybe. But, hear me out. These guys Marx and Engels, they had a pretty solid argument. They were like, "Look, the reason people are greedy is because they're trying to survive. They've got to fight tooth and nail just to make ends meet, so of course they're gonna try to get ahead. But what if everyone had enough to live on, what if there wasn't a need to fight for scraps?"" And then halfway through a chat member gaslights him into thinking he is part of the bourgeoisie

[@cabwaylingo_]

jerma going from being like "what? why would you want these guys in your dream blunt rotation???" to naming each guy and describing how they'd be cool to share a blunt with is character development

[@HesterLeveret]

Love that his whiteboard scribblings look like he scrawled them in sauce

[@Ozzymand]

bro there's legit only 3 total channels you need to get the Jermaspirience Arson - funny short clips of Sterma SuperDazza - good recaps monthly Cheltie - per game stream edits

[@Dodonko]

The three guardians

[@ayoplo]

Second Jerma doesn't even make the list

[@mikhail_SKII]

Jerma Stream Archive - 8 hours sleep content

[@cactuss33ds]

@Ayo Plo 2nd jerma is the retail version and all the community edits are the way better private servers

[@SwizzleDrizzl]

@@cactuss33ds HAH

[@anyahati]

"Who" is always somewhat unimportant when it comes to considering the invention of food-stuffs, as there is literally no way of knowing who was the first to actually do it - in most cases, the closest you'll get is "who was the first to record this thing," which obviously isn't the same. Similarly, "why" is also the wrong question - people do things because they want to or because they think it'll be useful, that's it, end of story. If anything, "when" may be a better question to ask. Moreover, Jerma - like many people - seems to have a very limited understanding of the structure/day-to-day lives of early humans, as life was not this incredibly fast-paced thing that only involved the acquisition and consumption of food. The earliest hunter-gatherers still had free time (I mean, hell, modern apes and monkeys have free time), and used this time for all sorts of things that we might consider "unnecessary" for immediate survival. Also, humans have literally always cared about taste, as it tells us what we should and shouldn't eat while also allowing us to be selective about the nutrients we consume - being "picky" about what you ate is what kept you alive. Back to the sauce question. Let's say that for something to be considered a sauce, it must contain - at the very least - a liquid, some sort of thickening agent, and flavorings (e.g. herbs, spices, seasonings, meat fat, etc.). Liquid is the easiest to come by and the first sauce probably used water as a base, or potentially the juices from cooked meat (the latter of which also provides the third component, flavoring, in the form of animal fat). But what about thickening agents? Even today, the most popular thickening agent is wheat flour - and archaeological evidence supports the notion that wheat flour has been around since at least 6,000 BCE. Wheat flour, however, isn't the only type of flour - oats can also be ground into flour, and archaeological evidence from the Early Gravettian Grotta Paglicci site in Italy shows that early people were grinding oats into flour since at least 32,000 BP/32,000 years ago. As long as these peoples were able to form some sort of crude bowl, be it out of clay, stone, or some other substance, they'd have a vessel that could hold our liquid and oat-flour mixture. If they were using the juices from cooked meat (which is likely seeing as meat was the primary foodstuff during this period due to colder temperatures), adding oat flour would make gravy - which is technically considered a sauce. Ergo, sauce may have been around for 32,000 - 30,000 years. For the sake of this argument, we will ignore the fact that au jus - which is literally just meat juice and fat drippings - is also considered a light sauce. Anyway, anthropology rant over.

[@WiggidyWack]

As completely correct as all this is, I think your best intentions are getting in the way of the bigger picture: Why don't we get Jerma a show where he travels around the world looking for the first sauce guy like "Ancient Aliens" meets "An Idiot Abroad?" We'll have him travel the world meeting every kind of weirdo with a wild, exciting, and different story where they all insist they know the first guy who made sauce, all while he pieces together an increasingly more bizarre hypothesis based on these experiences. Then, as the finale, we get him to visit you, who will explain the matter based on actual anthropology, crushing his child-like grasp of the issue that had been nurtured throughout the series. It's a much more work intensive and expensive way of gaslighting him than how it's done now, but he won't be streaming forever and lets face it the History Channel is probably desperate for relevant content.

[@PlayBatty]

This game is actually insane

[@Swimmerson]

Honestly, with the sauce convo, it could’ve been a stew accidentally left on the fire too long and reduced to a sorta “gravy” or berries put on meat, etc.

[@iumasz6088]

I love how Gunu literally dies 1 minute into the stream.

[@TheNookOfficial]

I got such tonal whiplash from a full minute of in-game exposition flipping immediately to "How bad do you piss on the toilet seat?" Cheltie has done it again

[@lucasnadamas9317]

19:39 but like what is he doing, what signals are his brain sending his hands

[@MetaWhiteYoshi]

he cannot talk and play at the same time

[@og8263]

This game really fascinated me, glad par 2 is so quickly here

[@lutzbalint3139]

im actually invested in the trebhums story now

[@troublewakingup]

Also the whole "who" in question seems wrong i don't think you can pinpoint that on one group of people much less one person, i would think humans just do these things because it's a thing that humans do when there's resources and time to do it, such as festivals, bazaars and pots But also Wikipedia says its the Chinese "Possibly the oldest recorded European sauce is garum, the fish sauce used by the Ancient Romans, while doubanjiang, the Chinese soy bean paste is mentioned in Rites of Zhou in the 3rd century BC." So I'd say that humans start making sauces around "city / village" level civilization. Also the "why" that he seems to be hung up on is strange "why anything" "why not" the sauce made the food better and that made life better so they made the sauce and then ate it But idk i might be spreading idiocy or misinformation or pseudo-intellectualism so just ask an expert maybe?

[@spacebassist]

Food is one of the oldest enjoyable things in life so it only makes sense that someone would try putting liquid food on normal food to make nicer food I was also thinking village-level since by that point you'd have dedicated people doing their things and a mild surplus. Some guy would inevitably try smearing tomato paste on the daily meat out of pure curiosity

[@spacebassist]

I can also cite myself as a source from the time I messed up pasta compared to the first time I got it right and what a great moment it was Real neuron activation moment

[@clobertina8176]

12:23 I'd like to think (realistically speaking) someone saw something while eating and got curious like, humans are naturally curious creatures including apes and monkeys etc (if whoever reads this believes in that stuff) either someone went "Mm this thing taste good, but this thing also taste good" and put them together or someone accidentally ate another thing with it's food and went "mm, taste good" and it slowly evolved from putting food together into making sauce That's what I think

[@en3839]

I’m genuinely so excited for jerma’s bug arc. I hope he keeps us updated on his beetle babies!

[@mrzilla321]

CHELTIE HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU EDIT FASTER THAN ALL THE PEOPLE WHO JUST REUPLOAD THE STREAM, DO YOU LIKE EDIT THE STREAM WHILE WATCHING IT LIKE WTF

[@Pedrão_chei_de_fome]

Streams are prerecorded, Cheltie somehow gets the file before anyone, he could be a hacker or someone close to jerma, maybe jerma himself

[@vernym4164]

@@Pedrão_chei_de_fome yes, its me im yerma, i like giftcards

[@ralek592]

@@Pedrão_chei_de_fome I would believe that because Cheltie is fostering a lot of the followers yerma would have had she not been a streamer, her importance is unparalleled

[@Tufukins]

I think Cheltie said once that he notes down timestamps of stuff that makes him laugh. Would make sense

[@zankaa8031]

writing notes as they watch the stream I'd assume

[@maxgamesst1]

The whole sauce thing is basically Emanuel Kant's whole philosophy, he was more concerned with language instead of sauces

[@troublewakingup]

Blue death-feigning beetles are so fucking cool. Entomology based, i can't wait until he figures out that wasps are really fucking cool beneficial animals

[@digitalinfinity2749]

I love how the concept of sauces is amazing to him. Like as if fermenting ingredients doesn’t make it have a longer shelf life compared to “raw beef and onions”

[@Biodeamon]

man becomes lost in the sauce

[@MrJack8700]

Jerma is so based for being a bug defender. People hate bugs but when you take a second to look at them they are like little pokemon. They have such diverse means of locomotion and hunting.

[@uhoh2017]

Yes! I have pet hissing roaches and they are so fun to watch. They are really interesting and all act in their own distinct way. They're truly just little guys.

[@Mr.SpicyIce]

I remember when he said "this is gonna be another chill stream" and just of the beginning of this video he says "this is hardcore"

[@dan_loeb]

that ancient roman fish sauce, garum was big business. Coastal cities had factories that would be producing and then sending jars of it all across the roman empire. the best garum would fetch very high prices. all classes enjoyed some aspect of it, they took fish intestines, salted them, and stewed it into a sauce. the liquid product was jarred, and depending on where it was produced, it was considered more or less valuable, suitable for middle class or rich. the left over salted intestines would be sold cheaply to the poor, who would flavor porridge like foods with it. pretty neat stuff, i doubt it was the first sauce though. there's the possibility of another fish sauce before it called garos, but it could also just be the name of a fish of that era.

[@Reac2]

I like how Jerma makes up this convoluted philosophical scenario about the first sauce, when really it was likely just some caveman that cooked a piece of meat with like a wild onion and put the liquid left over over his mushrooms. And the pickiness always existed. Humans have always had some kind of preference and some kind of sense for what nutrients they were missing and then instinctively craved those nutrients. Because our foods are severely processed and shit we don't get it that much anymore, but studies have still shown that gut bacteria can cause cravings in the carrier human depending on the type of bacteria you have (which depends on what you've eaten previously). If humans were just unmotivated "I eat whatever I can ,I don't care". We would've never evolved anywhere near to this point. We have millennia of culinary history and it's not that we developed the sense recently, we just started having more resources and writing stuff down to be able to make *and document* culinary developments.

[@pastapirate]

Ok but Holly is so right for saying the ultimate answer as to why humans care about flavor is "watch Ratatouille"

[@jellofan1578]

soup -> thick soup by accident -> eat with something else

[@jellofan1578]

dumbass

[@SVENSTREAMSSELECTS]

14:11 whoever wrote this "M" in the top where it says "made" needs to be examined.

[@Sybato]

I swear I can periodically hear the "bruh" sound effect as an ambient sound in-game when the narrator is talking sometimes, like at 1:34

[@TiredLittleGuy]

I loved these past few streams of this game so much LMAO sooo engrossed in its lore and Jermas clearly loving this game

[@HyperKryst]

I am waaay too invested in this

[@INEED2GOHOMENOW]

in fairness to jerma the sauce thing is like 90% of what people refer to when they say they had a "deep conversation" but jesus christ man "when did people start wanting food to taste good instead of bad" is such a dumb question

[@mortal_talos1196]

I am so glad I found this channel I always want longer Jerma videos but not the entire VOD. This is a perfect in between.

[@massimovozza1216]

Something about 17:38 is so wholesome while being absolutely incomprehensible at the same time

[@Apodeipnon]

18:50 but yet he beat jump king

[@birdsforbrains2]

i was there for the stream and at one point he just randomly started ranting about how he pissed so hard and crazy because he was tired that the next morning Holly just straight up noped-out of using the bathroom. and then he just completely pretended that he never said anything it was fucking insane

[@Cogu985]

Watching this game is like eating healthy food after a life-time of junk food

[@mayze8611]

this is like a video game version of jerma's channel artwork

[@carlll7596]

my message that jerma read is in the highlights :DDD (its the one talking about him comparing getting over it to the puzzle)

[@JahaRo]

I love the thumbnails on these videos because they make absolutely no sense until halfway in the video and jerma explains the most unpredictable scenario imaginable

[@SpecArch96]

18:34 underrated editing, had to rewatch 6 times

[@Kazuhira2249]

thanks cheltie i had missed this stream

[@HomerSlimeMachine]

I had left the stream to shower, then came back in the middle of the sauce rant. It was great, so glad I get to see what I missed plus the start of the sauce rant, thank you mwah!

[@coryhalley481]

To actually answer Jerma’s sauce conundrum, cuisine was able to really develop after the Neolithic revolution (though believe it or not there is actually evidence of multi step recipes by hunter gatherers over 30,000 years ago (Lippi et Al 2015). This was in large part due to division of labor and our opportunist diets. It would make sense to bring all the food sources together into a larger meal to better distribute the nutrition.) Farming really allowed for a surplus of food and for permanent settlements to develop. This allow for more experimentation with cuisine to happen. A lot of recipes stared off out of convenience to try and get the proper macronutrients, but the creation of a more complex social hierarchy also made specific foods coveted as a status symbol.

[@blarpnarp]

the last thing i wouldve ever expected ever was for jerma to become a beetle guy

[@MagerBlutooth]

Jerma making mac and cheese at 2 AM confirms he's Stu.

[@WorldGoods]

This is how Jerma was created

[@rocketforthree4479]

I think sauce may have come from soup. Soup is dead easy to make, just plant and meat in hot water. And they ate the soup with some other food like meat or vegatables roasted over fire. And someone thought "This soup tastes good with this other food." Over time, they make it thicker if the soup is too thin to put on top of the meat/vegatable, and this turns into sauce.

[@baaaldur]

really loving these more chill streams. i feel like there havent been too many of those since jerma really blew up

[@seventy-sixtrombones4130]

Cavemen definitely made the first sauce. And they had a great reason. Older people and young children would have the strength in their teeth to be able to chew tough meats and vegetables, so mashing foods together into something like a sauce would have been inevitable.

[@adrioth]

the only stream we'll ever see where he talks in-depth about sauce and beetles.

[@splendidcowhoof]

thanks for the upload cause he started stream right when i was about to go to bed

[@KuncanDastner]

Thank you Cheltie for all that you do

[@shogunpug4071]

*RAT-TAT-TOOEY*

[@TurboSpaceKitten]

the first "sauce" wouldve been during cave man times. people wouldve figured that mushing berries onto food made it taste better. modern monkey's dunk their foods into the sea to make them salty, there is no way ancient humans didnt mash berries and stuff into their foods to improve taste

[@GRIFFDANSE]

this game is sick as fuck

[@albusnightspring8057]

People and animals eat because it tastes good first and foremost, animals have no concept of "fuel"

[@doeslemonsucc1409]

Is this another one of his 'chill stream'?

[@SprDrumio64]

I remember Vinny playing through this It really made me never want to see it again lmao, but glad to see Jerma can somehow cut through the madness and enjoy it

[@hooty8703]

"I don't think I can handle Ratatouille right now" dog holy shit

[@lancehalo7256]

Oh man I love Jerma playing this, I hope he finishes it

[@vernym4164]

i actually love this game

[@HappyLarry.]

The fact Jerma is the best choice of personality for piloting Jeremy is truly insane, I mean just think about how psycho the other personalities are like

[@jjune4415]

jerma's whiteboard looks like charlie's diary in it's always sunny in Philadelphia

[@Fluwufy]

why does he say ratatouille like that

[@zackrahrs4779]

Cheltie you are a LEGEND for your efficiency and quality. Thank you for everything that you do.

[@vladimirvladislovvladivostok]

All bugs are important to the ecosystem. If they werent, they wouldnt exist

[@TeeterTuckin]

Reminds me of keeping a highdeas journal in the summer of 2011. Getting all philosophical with the boys.

[@briand5170]

Jeremy this is the 4th time this week you’ve brought up the sauce conspiracy enough is enough

[@evrynameistaken5]

*I've narrowed the invention of sauce down to one person: Pepe Saucevia, and i'm going to get to the bottom of this. this name keeps comin' up over and over and over again. Every day Pepe's mail's getting sent back to me. Pepe Sauceia, Pepe Sauceia, I look in the mail, this whole box is Pepe Sauceia! So I say to myself I gotta find this guy. I gotta go up to his kitchen, I gotta put his mail in the guy's goddamn hands! Otherwise he's never gonna get it, it's gonna keep coming back down here. So I go up to Pepe's kitchen and what do I find out, Mac, what do I find out? There is no Pepe Sauceia. The man does not exist, okay? So I decided, ohh shit, buddy, I gotta dig a little deeper. There's no Pepe Sauceia, you gotta be kidding me, I got boxes full of Pepe! All right, so I start marching my way down to Carol in sauce H.R. and I knock on her door and I say, "Caaarol, Caaarol! I gotta talk to you about Pepe!" And when I open the door, what do I find? There's not a single goddamn tomato in that kitchen. There is no Carol in sauce H.R. Mac, half the employees in this building have been made up. This kitchen is a goddamn ghost town.*

[@carolj7191]

"is it a friend?" i fucking wonder, bro

[@HiyaItsHailey]

i love the way he says rat tat tooie

[@Tufukins]

The story is really beautiful 😭

[@bonekichi7]

why does he pronounce ratatouille like that

[@DavisDeKarper]

I was about to comment exactly this

[@leokm9586]

Thanks for the highlights Cheltie. I wouldn't be able to watch these if it weren't for you 🙏

[@renatlottiepilled]

"you can call me bug andy if you want"

[@troublewakingup]

"I don't think i can handle ratatouille right now."

[@117johnpar]

Imagine living with this man.

[@mzed561]

the music in this game is haunting.

[@succulentcod]

im so glad holly goes along with his enrichment of choice otherwise god knows what horrors hed be unleashing on the world

[@xylopwn176]

18:19 - Captain Falcon the POWER of SUCC FEET

[@WhetWorks]

when jerma talks about using mari j he talks about using the substance like he's talking to his parents

[@hahapoopoo4679]

happy to see jerma go through his beetle fighting arc

[@pepperbytez8128]

BLUE DEATH FEIGNING BEETLES??!

[@turt1100]

Jesus this one ended like 8 hours ago??

[@falafelfreak]

Are you new to this channel? Cheltie is lightning fast

[@carlll7596]

try 5.

[@turt1100]

@@falafelfreak yeah but this one was noticeably faster than usual