Chess is Never Without Drama

[@generalkenobi5533]

To me, the whole "Russian helping a non-Russian" thing is evidence that the game of chess really does transcend national boundaries. I mean, let's be real here. Very few people cared or maybe even realized that Magnus and Nepo were "representing" specific countries. They're just two fantastic players duking it out for the world title.

[@alpha007org]

OK, but on the other hand, title "Chess champion _insertYear_" because a strange thing for me personally. If you pick two GMs in top 20 (or maybe top 50), every pair could draw 14 games straight. Such is the state of chess in current times. Nepo had to try to create imbalances, because if you look back, after ~20-25 moves in every game they could start trading to oblivion and draw the game.

[@alpha007org]

I just realized I commented under the wrong post, and now I don't see that comment anymore. I agree with you about nationalities, obviously.

[@danieln.1034]

Say that to the Russians. They dominated chess in most of recent history with the Soviets. Agreed though

[@LenhaRDT0130]

Russians only

[@discharm210]

You can say that because you're not living in the country with high nationalistic sense. Im sure this kind of drama will also happen if this involve (lets say) Chinese or Indian chess player

[@FreemanWelterweight]

The real strength of team Magnus is the power of friendship between him and Dubov

[@skirk248]

who would've thought a team that liked working together would win

[@logistaur]

Maybe the real chess championship is the friends we made along the way

[@0xf7c8]

Underrated lol

[@johnshogskins4443]

Magnus only keeps Dubov around because he thinks he's not good enough to challenge him for the world title....lmao

[@arrowghost]

It's too dramatic when I even heard the word 'treason' in the accusations against Dubov. But today's Russia is probably not going to punish him like how the Soviet Union did to Taimanov when he was obliterated by Bobby Fischer.

[@andyalvarico6139]

Having Dubov as Magnus’ second is just very dangerous. Solid positional and precision added with creative attacking mindset will probably be unstoppable.

[@marcomarco7750]

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[@Alekhine-lr9cp]

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[@sebastiaanb2651]

Consider how Magnus attacked and sacrificed with white -- no surprise he worked with dubov.

[@marcomarco7750]

@@Alekhine-lr9cp What ? Are you homophobic ??? 🤬🤬🤬🏳️‍🌈

[@Alekhine-lr9cp]

@@marcomarco7750 nope

[@sixaout1982]

If MVL had won the candidates, should Laurent Fressinet have had to leave Carlsen's team? Also, if Russia is dumb enough to shun Dubov over this, he won't have too much trouble finding a new home.

[@MAC0071234]

I think Fressinet had said that he would of course be on the team MVL. I think it was in the World Cup commentary (I could be wrong about the event) where he was commentating with Jan Gustafson for chess24. Unlike the common misconception about the French people, they are actually very patriotic. I don't think Ian minds though, although they are very good friends and also teammates, so it could be very awkward. Even if they don't say anything or behave as if its not a big deal. Cos even if one of them doesn't even think about it, the other guy might have that nagging feeling that the other person is thinking about it. Frankly I am a bit surprised cos I thought Dubov WAS on the Nepo team. Especially since Nepo's and Dubov's style is so similar. It would have been great to have him analyse certain positions for Ian and come up with stuff that would actually naturally be great for Ian. On the other hand, having Dubov on Magnus's team would have been such an asset since its pretty much like having Ian on Magus's team. Lolz.

[@brycecary]

Perfectly said. Couldn’t agree anymore.

[@jestice75]

@@MAC0071234 Just guessing, but probably because Fressinet is close friends with MVL and not simply because they're both Frenchman.

[@ibarix]

Imagine Dubov joining Firouzja in team France... daamn. :)

[@yoyashuyo3485]

@@ibarix That sounds like Goku and Vegeta damn!!! Lol

[@franciscoeduardo6250]

Karjakin is such a bro. Pulling out a drama out of thin air just so people can forget the WCC and stop making memes of Ian.

[@rohanpatel767]

Respect 😊😊

[@tmspironic6422]

Out of thin air, hmm never have heard Putin called that before …

[@phaque3115]

Hahahaha that’s a very astute statement bravo 👏

[@BadDrummerCarl]

The nationality doesn't matter who you partner with, this is a one against one match of who's better at chess. Magnus picks people who he thinks will challenge him and give him a different perspective on each position, Dubov is absolutely one of those wild players that will throw a spanner into Carlsen's practice

[@PeskyWabbit.]

Nationality does matter to a certain extent, keep in mind a player represents a certain nation when playing the game

[@jessehammer123]

@@PeskyWabbit. Nepo wasn’t even technically representing Russia- the IOC’s still enforcing their ban on Russia, so he played for “CFR”.

[@marcomarco7750]

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[@edgali]

always a good day when Agadmator chooses a Dubov game

[@marcomarco7750]

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[@supbro125]

@@marcomarco7750 lmao

[@edgali]

@@marcomarco7750 tf is this shit

[@marcomarco7750]

@@edgali A based video

[@vahiddj81]

Dubov role is like a football coach. Coaches have every right in the world to work for other nations even against their owns. You see for example for UK or even Russian football team who has been coached by Hiddink or Capello previously. Karjakin and others are being ridiculous.

[@arrowghost]

It's too dramatic when I even heard the word 'treason' in the accusations against Dubov. But today's Russia is probably not going to punish him like how the Soviet Union did to Taimanov when he was obliterated by Bobby Fischer.

[@martinpaddle]

I don't think Magnus having a Russian coach on its own would have been such an issue. It's a bit different, becasue Dubov is a teammate of Ian. The play under the same federation and in the same team at team championships and Olympiads. Hiddink, Capello, and Eriksson (as England coach) didn't have a function for their home federation at the time. Hikaru, for example, said in his stream that he wouldn't accept an invitation to be Magnus' second if he was facing Caruana or Wesley So. It's like saying to your teammate: sorry, but I wanted your opponent to win. Now Dubov makes the argument that the world champtionship is an individual award, you represented yourself and not your country, and he happens to feel closer to Magnus. He's right in my opinion, but the coach analogy is still not quite correct.

[@wesleydeng71]

Interestingly, Caruana and Wesley So have both switched countries.

[@vahiddj81]

@jetlag you are mixing things up. Here Dubov being in Magnus team, He is not playing on the board. He is finding ideas but it's Magnus who plays it. Dubov being in Russian team he plays on the board and not sharing any idea with others but strategies. Coach in Magnus team, player in Russian team.

[@martinpaddle]

@@vahiddj81 it doesn't matter. A foreign coach in football would never have any paid role within his home country's federation, as player or else. Hiddink would not have coached Russia while playing for Holland. It's a conflict of interest. That's essentially Karpov's argument. The argument in Dubov's favour here is that Magnus is playing against Nepo as an individual, and not as a representative of the Russian Chess federation.

[@kadorakasu]

Karjakin giving off some "Soviet Comrades stick together" vibes with that tweet. Congrats to Dubov, he seems happy where he is and can grow and learn as a chess player, hope he continues to see success

[@kingStribor]

Magnus is covering under the face of objectiveness. He is the best student of chess, but very poor creatively. He is just product of this chess age. Just look at his gracefulness when he lose game from some serious opponent he is afraid of, like young Alireza...or Dubov...slamming laptop or table...just a poor loser, like the king who is afraid to lose his crown...pitiful champ

[@DerDimilo]

@@kingStribor Bad analysis ngl

[@kingStribor]

@@DerDimilo Sorry. I can't stand bad losers

[@mysticalmagic9259]

@@kingStribor He may be a bad loser, but don't use that to detract from how good he is. I never understood why people like you think the best have to be super sportsmanlike and graceful in defeat. If you're the best, you're the best. If you don't like his behavior, go and beat him to be the best yourself. That goes for the other top players in the world too. Are they too just a product of this age, nothing more? Kasparov and Carlsen were both terrible losers. They were also both the best of their time. One could even say their hatred of losing is why they're so good in the first place? So they don't lose? I get you don't like sore losers, but using that to undermine their skill and proficiency for the game is incredibly underhanded. Carlsen is the best, product of an "age" or not, and complaining isn't going to change that fact. Maybe you could root for a better loser like Nepo, but we all saw how that went down with Magnus. ;)

[@slavcevic]

@@kingStribor him being a bad loser is the reason why he is the greatest player of all time, and you not seeing that is why you'll never be great at anything

[@a.jansiz4663]

This is my favourite game ever. Dubov is an absolute genius. Hope to see him fight for a place in the next candidates tournament.

[@thehorsehunter]

great profile pic and taste in music

[@Htheorphanarian]

your favourite game ever?? dude expand your chess knowledge! it's not even in my top 100.

[@a.jansiz4663]

@@Htheorphanarian Cool. Good for you.

[@pero13258]

Dobov is my favorite player, hope to see him get even better in the future.

[@andrewg2032]

Mine too. This is the greatest chess game of all time

[@furki7589]

Everytime i see Daniil‘s picture left to the chessboard, i know that something is about to burn down

[@altamistral]

Well, we must concede this video was perhaps the best way to take a stance on the drama and troll Karjakin.

[@mohammadal-abbasi7247]

Yes 😂

[@sassanxersi1027]

I agree. Karjakin is one of the very few decent guys in chess and trolling him is something I don't embrace too. thumbs up to you.

[@marcomarco7750]

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[@mardenhill]

fun fact: karjakin was actually a UKRAINIAN citizen and represented the ukraine until he switched to russia and later on also spoke out in support of the annexation of crimea. makes it even more weird to see his zwitscher post. chess is predominantly an individual sport, with a few artificial team events, nationalities are irrelevant there nowadays.

[@MultiJejje]

It's not that strange. I know few "Ukrainians" in Finland and they're pro Putin because their father is. It's hard to understand this if you live in some another country because some "Ukrainians" are basically Russians.

[@tomas6207]

A Dubov game is always a treat for my friends at the library.

[@crackawood]

my crackhead friends in the alley hate chess so we always have to fight

[@pamansaru327]

combined it with 1959 Candidate knowledge

[@Goobrino]

They all got rekt by Hammer because he just said he would be available for a team against Magnus at the right price LMAO.

[@andresmartinezramos7513]

That was gold

[@seanhunter111]

Maybe that's why Magnus is the world champion and Karjakin isn't. He just choses people who he likes and work well together rather than basing it on weird patriotism or anythnig like that. Dubov made a big contribution to team Magnus. Magnus played the Catalan twice, which I can't imagine him doing without Dubov in the camp.

[@insanestuff9470]

😉😜👋👋

[@ayush6025]

Magnus is world champion just because he’s the best chess player in existence. None of the stuff you mentioned.

[@nirolf12]

@@ayush6025 not quite, the behind the scenes preparation plays a huge role in classical chess

[@akaneriyun4774]

@@ayush6025 both that and his team helping him.

[@helix5779]

nothing weird about patriotism. its one of the most normal and natural things that someone could express. its why nations even exist. why your ancestors survived against others.

[@alexhein9136]

Dubov basically said “you vibe with who you vibe with”. Perhaps humorless patriotism is not his jam. Personally I’d rather be “Man with Ideas” than receive a plane ticket to Dubai with no explanation but hey

[@marcomarco7750]

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[@palbal]

Greetings from Norway. Thanks agad for the work you do! The whole situation is blown out of proportions. In many other sports, different nationalities work together as part of a team.

[@haroldasraz]

I agree with Dubov. The wealth of knowledge that he takes from working with Magnus is mega. Thus knowledge he will be able to apply for self improvement and teaching the next generation. Whilst, Nepo is an amazing GM, but he needs to improve his fitness, psychological stability and have another go.

[@pino6782]

@John Napier Fit people don't necessarily need to be slim. I think what he meant was endurance and stamina rather than body weight.

[@Apeez-ny4iz]

That's how he won worlds rapid, van forest, won tata steel.

[@chrisdin4109]

At that level being fit gives you an advantage.

[@theTutenstien]

@@pino6782 having a beer gut wouldnt help would it. He is fat lol no offence

[@larsriise1396]

Dubov has been working with Carlsen for years. And it makes him a better player. Some Russlans are bad losers.

[@Relisoc4]

People always take sports and such too far. It’s funny to joke about dubov being a traitor or whatever but some people like actually think he has committed some unspeakable act

[@simohayha6031]

Did you really write Russ Ians as in Ian Nepomniachtchi

[@Lolersters]

Nepo didn't invite dubov because he didn't want to put him inan awkward position. What a considerate guy.

[@Whiskypapa]

Nepo might have lost the championship, but he won the respect of the entire chess community for his exemplary conduct before, during and after the match. I’m Norwegian and obviously rooted for Magnus, but I know that he wouldn’t have been as gracious in defeat as Nepo was. I liked Nepo for his playing style before the match, and now I love him for his overall character. Quickly becoming my second favourite chess player.

[@noodleexpanding3407]

Take this like but know that I'm not happy about that

[@part6133]

This chess champion is not the Olympics. Chess is not a sport. No normal Russian has loyalty to the Rockets.

[@Whiskypapa]

@@part6133 chess is by definition a sport. It’ not part of the olympics, so it’s not an olympic sport, but it is a sport.

[@Killua656]

would you rather work with your friend or with a dude you have no connection to other than having the same nationality? Seriously these is really immature by Karjakin and everyone else who is blaming Dubov for working with Magnus. The Championship match is player vs player not country vs country. So stupid.

[@pauldeck4500]

4:10 And it was in this position that Medo rolled over.

[@PawanDeshmane]

Daniil is a mad man. Just awesome guy. Totally underrated player in my opinion.

[@onnoquinten2944]

Well chess ratings are pretty accurate I think

[@elgonzo5]

I congratulate Dubov! He and Magnus are clearly friends and working with a friend on a goal (and getting paid for it) is one of life’s delights.

[@aaaxudjeksosapl8]

The WCC is Carlsen vs Nepo, not Norway vs Russia.. simple as that

[@PeskyWabbit.]

At the same time each player represents a country.

[@DLT739]

@@PeskyWabbit. No, Russians are currently banned from representing their country, because of their orchestrating campaign of cheating

[@PeskyWabbit.]

@@DLT739 lol yea the russophobia is really strong last few years. But it's all political. Everyone knows Nepo represents russia

[@MrTVx99]

Surprised Karjakin isn't taking shots at Kramnik, Kasparov or Karpov for helping Magnus and give him guidance and inspiration in his younger years. Those guys betrayed Russia as well I guess.

[@wanderson3212]

Fuck logic, right?

[@seregasuperman254]

Kasparov is a traitor for those hwo support Putin. He was in opposition and after a while just fled and decided to live calmly in U.S. Good for him. Could have been found himself in jail or dead.

[@eloytoro]

Chess players usually have 0 IQ for anything that isn't chess. Tal wasn't even able to operate a kettle

[@seregasuperman254]

Karjakin is a Putin supporter. After the match with Carlsen he started to take part in some political activities. He is a member of Civic chamber of Russian Federation. It's government agency. And for our government it is like this: you with us or you against us. There is this thinking. But there was a poll in one popular russian sport website. And only 15% support Karjakin's opinion. So it's all good.

[@user-ro9md9wp3j]

​@ because if you cry about democracy in Russia, you get sent to the gulag

[@itzfosheezzy2677]

Chess is changing for the better with Magnus as Champion. Respect for Dubov for joining team Magnus.

[@kristofferb-e1337]

When almost all the biggest Russian names in chess join forces and still looses. What to do then? Start pointing fingers at others. Karjakin has been involved in two world championships against Carlsen and lost both times.

[@marcomarco7750]

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[@iguoyrxayananikihs9505]

Yeah, they are pretty pathetic honestly

[@asdf12369]

This made me lose all respect for karjakin that i didn't have anyway

[@Ball7399]

@matt0098 University of Minnesota exactly, Karjakin should really keep quite on representing your true nation because he can be considered a traitor

[@AnHonestDoubter]

It would be an interesting video to go into the history of "seconds." When did this practice start? Do any GMs forego having one (I heard Wesley So doesn't, could have changed by now though)? What does being a second entail? Are they compensated?

[@marcomarco7750]

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[@lajos-berenyi]

I don’t know when did the history of seconds start, but I know that Botvinik had seconds already in his Word Championchip matches.

[@Dan1elAndrade]

very well compensated

[@AnHonestDoubter]

@@Dan1elAndrade I assumed so, but is it by day? By hour? % of prize? Is it a contract that is signed?

[@Sletty73]

Strange remark by Karjakin. The point is not if I would accept their help. The point is if they would offer it to someone that might turn out to become a future challenger for Magnus. And of course they would (at the right price), as almost EVERYBODY does (they are professionals).

[@marcomarco7750]

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[@СергейКлементьев-и4ф]

Karjakin is just upset that Dubov didn't give him any intel on team Carlsen's preparation

[@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n]

Magnus is basically the anime protagonist who got opponent teams strongest player's (Dubov) respect after defeating him, which makes the opponent join Protagonist on his adventure only to get a character development arc where he has to face his former henchmen (Nepo and Sergei) and help Protagonist to achieve greatness. Anime: King's Gambit:WCC edition

[@davidpbariya-k2a]

*Every move has a flashback*

[@GardEngebretsen]

Except Dubov is like the 8th strongest Russian grandmaster.

[@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox]

Can you nerds stop relating everything to anime. You realise there is other fiction right?

[@kunalsingh4418]

@@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox no

[@MsJavaWolf]

@@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox There is also manga.

[@hitrapperandartistdababy]

I can alreadyvsay without a doubt that Magnus would not care the slightest wether his oppoents seconds where Norwegian.

[@marcomarco7750]

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[@hitrapperandartistdababy]

@@marcomarco7750 ok

[@FresnoRog]

Is there a way to display the time left when a move is made?I love the calculations but the time constraints provide great perspective.

[@rokanza2293]

How petty some of you are hahah

[@sixjhontongalamar979]

Agad already mentions the time whenever it is necessary (when a move is very thought out consuming a lot of time, time constraints, etc.). More than that would be asking too much.

[@BiggyJimbo]

I don't think there's an easy way for him to find out the exact timings, without watching a video recording of the game and looking at the clock for every move. This obviously isn't practical. As far as I'm aware, only the moves themselves are recorded for future review, and not their respective times.

[@HH-bq2up]

Next WCC: Karjakin helps Magnus against Dubov 😂

[@theactualtrokz]

Why on earth would anyone pass on the opportunity to be apart of arguably the best chess player ever team

[@marcomarco7750]

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[@allwynmasc1]

Right. An opportunity to work with a player who's probably one of the greatest players in the history of chess and these guys are trying to shame him for his choice

[@theactualtrokz]

@@LegendLength yes. That's the definition of competition.

[@theactualtrokz]

@@LegendLength competition is to compete at the highest level to see who truly is the champion, its not a team sport like rugby/football etc. At the end of the day it's magnus that's out there competing.

[@theactualtrokz]

@@LegendLength well there is a fundamental difference between your immediate blood relative and some proverbial "mother country"

[@alekhyadas2187]

Karjakin: Is sad Bully Dubov: "Gonna Cry?"

[@СергейКлементьев-и4ф]

"I'm gonna put some b4 in your eye"

[@feelsveryChadman]

take my like , funny man

[@quasarstarpower2858]

@@СергейКлементьев-и4ф that's nice.

[@donkbonktj5773]

@@СергейКлементьев-и4ф Haha nice one ''before'' in your eye

[@shubhampawar9137]

I m impressed by dubovs ideas 💡💡💡💡 how can he does these master piece 🧩🧩

[@olzhasarystanov9582]

There should be no place for so-called patriotism in chess. Karjakin’s mindset is just stuck in the cold war period. He should be proud of Dubov being a part of the strongest chess team and making a contribution. You play chess to show a beautiful performance, not to prove your country’s dominance at it. I like Nepo as a strong player and an individual. If there are anyone to blame for his loss except himself, those are people like Karjakin who just put too much unnecessary weight on Nepo’s shoulders. Stuff like - you must win for your country, the whole mother Russia is looking at you and other bulls**t

[@helix5779]

nothing wrong with patriotism. its one of the most normal and natural things that someone could express. its why nations even exist. why your ancestors survived against others. you're essentially representing and inspiring people who come from the same nation you do. usually people with your DNA and appearance etc. its literally everywhere in every competitive arena ever. everyone does it.

[@giorgisulukhia1574]

Karjakin is not the one who should be talking about the home country betrayal

[@MultiBejn]

Why?

[@abhishekladdha7198]

Just 2 questions 1. If we both are from a same country is it necessary that we would have great relations(better than someone from other country)? 2. Was this match between Russia and Norway or between Nepo and Magnus? The answer to these questions will help you guys in coming to a concluding answer.

[@themerovingian7154]

If it wasn't about Norway and Russian then why they played Norway national anthem in closing ceremony after Magnus received gold medal?

[@saatviksharma1532]

Imagine if Vidit someday plays for the world championship title against Magnus and someone like Vishy or Adhiban is in Magnus's team. How will we feel or leave us,how will Vidit feel? It is easy to look from the outside because we are neither Russians nor Norwegians. But I think this can be a big issue if it happens for one's own country.

[@rupert909]

@@themerovingian7154 the correct answer was nepo vs carlsen. It wouldn't matter if they played the Australian national anthem, its nepo v carlsen.

[@thomasrad5202]

Dubov has been on team Carlsen for many years now and they seem to have a relationship which transcends nationality. Nepo understands this and chose not to ask Dubov out of respect for this. If it had been Caruana who was challenging Carlsen right now instead of Nepo, I'm sure Carlsen would have selected the same team.

[@kristofferb-e1337]

@@themerovingian7154 World Team Chess Championship is another cup. This one is Carlsen vs Nepo. There has not been a world cup in chess with India vs Norway or USA vs Norway..

[@Omar-of4tz]

Plot twist: Dubov is spying on Magnus' analysis and playstyle so that he will beat him in the next WCC.

[@mogyorospusztai]

Would be awesome to end his streak. It is damn hard to beat someone at his level because he can easily draw every game and a drawish result means he keeps his title.

[@sebastiaanb2651]

Magnus made a joke about something like that when they asked him who he would most like on his team, dead or alive, in one of the interviews. The player he mentioned (with specific year) later challanged the person he assisted and won. It certainly crossed his mind he might have to face Dubov someday.

[@B3Band]

There are only two spots left, and they will come from the FIDE Grand Prix. Dubov is not in the Grand Prix. BUT there are two spots left in the Grand Prix (nominated by FIDE and the organizer), so maybe still a very small chance.

[@leo25darklight]

@@B3Band The remaining two players are likely to be selected from those who played the last FIDE World Cup and/or FIDE Grand Swiss based on rating. There may be exception to this. Did Dubov play in any of these two tournaments this year?

[@AtulGupta-rh4if]

It's amazing how the dark square bishop remains on the c1-h6 diagonal.. I guess that was the point of bishop f4 move.. What incredible prep by Dubov! Amazing game

[@xethnyrrow]

Never a bad move when you decide to show a Dubov game, thanks!

[@teodordanielescu3250]

Karjakin with the 1972 ussr vibes when they played "6v1"

[@MrStaggerLeeee]

Ian didn't represent Rusia since Rusia have cheated so much they are not allowed to participated in any international game/sport under their own flag. Besides it is pretty normal to have trainers and staff from any nation in any games/sports where they risk playing against there own country

[@Headhunter_212]

Smart move by Magnus to have Daniil and Van Foreest as seconds. Keeping his future competitors close to him. He’s scouting them now AND starting the head games for 2023 and beyond. Larry Holmes was a sparring partner for Ali and others before he won the Heavyweight belt.

[@parthiv17]

"Everyone bring division and enjoy it so ridiculous is the idea of sports and nationalism ". - great person I don't reckon his name.

[@Original2BBB]

I'd like to take a moment to appreciate David Kimura, he's a most excellent subscriber

[@escapedlunatic27]

Hammer has previously worked with Carlsen, so he probably wouldn't offer to help a future opponent of his old boss. As far as I'm aware Tari never has, so he would be a free agent if either player wanted to ask him for help in a future match. Karjakin's comment shows the mindset of the old Soviet school, when they all worked together against Fischer (and later Korchnoi). Times have moved on - no-one is obliged to help one side rather than the other because they're the same nationality.

[@pawnriot3269]

Is Karjakin critical of Kasparov too for training a young Magnus? This is so dumb.

[@matthewpelletier6900]

Always happy to see a Dubov game, man's crazy.

[@soumyajitroy5239]

I still remember this is the game that got attention of literally everyone last year

[@marcomarco7750]

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[@RedEye1010101]

At 6:36 why can’t the knight on b5 take bf4? Looked at it for some time and is it not just a free piece or am I missing something blatantly obvious ?

[@shandikaartha3864]

Are we live in fischer era? I mean we live in a more open era and russia should be proud they have a lot of strong GM that helps other players outside russia, even though the world championship title is not from russia but the fact russia dominate chess is undeniable

[@1.4142]

Chess is a game of perfect information. We're all on the same page and anyone from any country can understand it.

[@versilephoque4576]

12:28 i don't understand here why Karjakin didn't play Kf8 instead, so after Qh2 or Qh5 by white, he'd do Ke8, so after Rh8 or Qh8 by white, black had Rf8 to block check and survive at least a little more

[@rogeru73]

How much of the price money do the seconds usually get? I read somewhere that they usually gets a cut.

[@Glendragon]

Usually get a cut as in… a salary regardless of the prize money, often used for trading your skills and time for some money to feed yourself? They might get a small bonus if they win just as a nice treat and a reason to work even harder.

[@hitrapperandartistdababy]

Could you perhaps sometime show us some games by Peter Heine Nielsen? It would be interesting to see some games from Bent Larsens successor who then coached the current world champion for a time and has been his seconds for several years.

[@B3Band]

He was also Anand's coach. I guess he's a bad guy too because Anand is Indian and faced Magnus before /s

[@davidemiozzi8589]

Hot takes from Karjakin. I also recall an interview of his on Chess24 saying that Nepo was losing because of bad luck. Who knew, all this time, and all I needed to improve my chess was a talysman

[@armenhaddad1761]

"specially not capture with the queen, you know rook c8 and stuff" - you're a legend man

[@ShamGam3]

Peter Heine Nielsen deserves more credit. He was also Anands coach.

[@bobbynygaardchrisitansen6874]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Heine_Nielsen

[@dhruvkapadia7634]

Dubov creates drama everywhere. Doesn’t matter if it’s on or off the chessboard

[@VideoSchredder]

It wasn't Dubov, who created the drama. It was overly patriotic Russians

[@vanillakevs5469]

Dubov is just vibin while everyone tries to take him down.

[@teippio5613]

agadmator: "And now Bishop to E7. So just a normal 3 knights variation of Queens gambit." Me who knows nothing about chess: "Ah yes, I was completely expecting that. So obvious."

[@aeroevans9987]

I think that Nepo lost because he was... RUSSIAN HIS MOVES!!!

[@phaque3115]

Very Punny lol hahaha 🥳👏👏

[@jamesfriedman4645]

Only a fool would find offence with a player studying with Carlsen

[@Noelito40]

Very jingoistic from Karyakin! Loved Dubov's response "it's a European approach!"

[@komaddog]

So Dubov knows most of Magnus' prep given that he's part of the team?

[@mubaraksenju7521]

Usually that’s how it works

[@Atombender]

Karjakin is still sore about 2016.

[@rawdaaljawhary4174]

Agad, can you do an episode on what it means to be World Champion? What are some of the responsibilities and perks? Do you have to participate in the world rapid and blitz championship and other major tournaments? I realized I didn't know what Nepo was fighting for other than the title, prize money, and bragging rights that he beat the GOAT. But once you assume the title, what does it mean and how often do you have to defend it? Thanks!!

[@eoghaininfacundodiarmuid]

Dear Sergey Karjakin (and other Russians that are salty with Dubov). The success of Carlsen should be deemed a success of Russian Chess. Kasparov once trained Carlsen; Nepo once helped Carlsen. Most of principles of Soviet chess have been adopted by many countries and many elite GMs around the world. Russians should be proud of the work done by Dubov for Magnus. You know Sergey, I am a patriotic guy and have strong national pride. But your patriotism and pride are misplaced. There are times to be patriotic, there are times to be professional, there are times to be friends with people of different race/citizenship, and there are times to be human.

[@strooomon]

All Dubov games bring a smile to my face. Thanks for making the day brighte

[@lifeson90]

as an englishman we have no problem with this, so long as legal. we've had swedes and italians in charge of our national football team, is something to be proud of really, breaks down barriers. so long as the actual player/s are one nationality of course. very well done Magnus, Daniil and others who helped him

[@taowroland8697]

Why are barriers bad? England is worse off today in all metrics regarding people's quality of life, than 40 years ago.

[@B3Band]

As long as the players are one nationality....as if England doesn't poach Irish and Scottish players with English grandparents all the time for their national team.

[@antoniobacic5674]

Dubov did nothing wrong, on the contrary!

[@arrowghost]

In the chess world, it's a free for all, but it's too dramatic when I even heard the word 'treason' in the accusations against Dubov. But today's Russia is probably not going to punish him like how the Soviet Union did to Taimanov when he was obliterated by Bobby Fischer.

[@phoenixalpha5789]

Formula 1 is very inspiring to that debate, no one team is composed out of the same nationality.

[@briandegraff6823]

Who were Ian's seconds for the match?

[@jasonkoch3182]

Karjakin is quickly moving his way up the list of players I want to see do poorly. I don't know if he'll ever top Peter "Douche Move" Svidler, but he's definitely in competition for number 2, which seems appropriate.

[@mikoaj1349]

Out of curiosity, what has Svidler done?

[@omayaki5264]

@@mikoaj1349 I want to know aswell

[@milfschnitteausdemkuhlrega7015]

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[@phaque3115]

Yeah elaborate on this for us.. I had to do a full breakdown of Nakamura and his bullcrap with Eric Hansen in another comments section but I’ve not heard this before about svidler

[@jasonkoch3182]

@@mikoaj1349 A few years ago, agadmator did a recap video of a game and the STL Chess Club sent him a cease and desist letter claiming it was their property. Agadmator read the letter on the air, and Svidler called it a "douche move" despite agadmator clearly being in the right. The Chess Club relented a little while later. Agad had done nothing wrong and at the time constantly praised Svidler for his play and his work as a commentator and you could tell what he said bothered agad. It's been impossible for me to respect Svidler since. I root for him to lose every time he plays.

[@pranitkatwal462]

May God save Dubov from the KGB

Dubov joined Carlsen in 2018. So this drama is very odd, Karjakin is being a sore loser. The nationalism in chess is very weird, Did Dubov tell Nepo to play c5? , Don't think so... Also, like I said if Dubov joined Carlsen 2 months ago, I could argue but since he has joined in 2018, this is not even arguable. Also, didn't Karjakin switch Ukraine to Russia lol, that seems more betrayal to me, ngl.

[@kristofferb-e1337]

Some of the members on this Nepo team came with help to Carlsen, in the world cup in India. They had some ideas about how to beat Anand. It is said that Magnus used these ideas in one of the winning games. They would rather see Magnus than Anand as champ. I think this is a sore man"s (Karjakin) feeling. Two times involved against Carlsen, in World Cups, and both times losing.

[@kkarx]

Karjakin is ethnic Russian from Crimea. There live millions of Russians in Ukraine (what a surprise...) and it is really not nice from Dubov to help Carlsen in this situation. No decent human being would do that but hey these chess masters are often weird.

[@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n]

@@kkarx bruh you're a special kid aren't you

[@kkarx]

@@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n Butthurt too much by the facts?

[@dark_rit]

@@kkarx A decent human being would be nice to anyone regardless of nationality, hyper nationalism is stupidity. It's like saying to your neighbor I would help you, but you're from country X so I'll help someone from my country instead.

[@gregorymorse8423]

Norway isn't really a country that is big on rivalries. So I don't think Dubov should be criticized for his assistance. The fact that Chess is important in Russia is respectable and a great sign of sounf cultural prioritization. These days though everyone respects the greatest player is based on what happens on the board without interference. So despite Chess players feelings, Chess has become respected enough to be beyond any national boundaries. We should be happy about this. Russia for its part has so many strong GMs and even their NM are GM strength so without doubt they will earn back the title at some point.

[@wadestoss3325]

"Wow, what an Uncle Tomov" -Sergei Karjakin.

[@michaelmoran4420]

I think this guy makes more money than actual professional chess players.. good for him!

[@pauldeck4500]

Dubov was doubtlessly paid handsomely for helping Carlson as a second.

[@Goobrino]

Even if he wasn't paid as well as he did, he is close friends with Magnus. He already said that it's better to be in a team that like each other contrary to the Russian teams where it's all elo and no synergy.

[@MrThomaspieter]

@@Goobrino When/Where did he say it?

[@axeluchiha5831]

@@MrThomaspieter in the chess24 video revealing Magnus team. Also in the comments Dubov made addressing the issues himself.

[@RiskyBisky11]

He’s already well off, really about the vibes n chess atp

[@fareedhahamed5165]

What happened to your world championship analysis video?

[@henrylai9593]

Dubov is my favorite chess player

[@TheHawk007]

Dubov the genius!🔥

[@bernardoalbano1816]

This is what I was wathing for!

[@jessejordache1869]

You know this game is actually drawn? After ..Rf6, White has to check the king first and then take the c8 rook with his queen, and only then take the rook with the bishop (otherwise Black has a back rank checkmate). This leaves White with a queen and a 2:1 pawn majority on the kingside (the queen will pick up a pawn once the swaps are done) vs a bishop, a knight, and three connected passed pawns on the queenside. It's a fortress: the queen can only sacrifice itself once, and it's actually not that hard to keep everything protected in a little mobile house around the king. If White tries to push its 2 to 1 majority, Black has more than enough pawns to win the race, forcing White into passivity. Try it yourself - use any engine you like. In the resigned position, Leela sees it as basically drawn immediately - Stockfish thinks White is winning, but follow its recommended moves and it eventually figures out that White can't make progress. It makes no difference if White first plays something like a4 to take away the back rank threat before bishop takes rook in order to preserve a rook on both sides - the three pawns and two minor pieces are just too good at defending the King. There are very few only moves: a human supergrandmaster could probably do it in classical time control if they managed to see beyond White's position looking overwhelming. You have to know it's there before you start looking for things like how to move the knight to the defense of the king with tempo, what's the best diagonal for the bishop to occupy, etc.

[@veniaminvysotskiy9598]

Dubov has so much talent should be making his own team and fighting for the crown in the long run is a #6 atm

[@ibarix]

CarJackin still living in the Cold War. Poor soul.

[@radscorpion8]

One can acknowledge both perspectives without disparaging either side. For some people the WCC and perhaps chess in general is a matter of national pride, as such players should receive all national support, and can be viewed as a team - and in which crossing lines is kind of offensive. For others, the WCC and also chess in general, has very little to do with a person's nationality. For them it does not matter if all of Russia's GMs assisted Magnus or if all of Norway's GMs assisted Ian. I don't think one side is necessarily right or wrong here. But from my perspective nationality has not mattered in chess for a very long time, except for explicitly nationality-based team chess battles.

[@Fdragon1337]

Nepo is cool af. Sergey is a punk. That Dubov guy is pretty chill his team won too so you know solid.

[@MrAbrazildo]

9:38, I would play 1...f4, to perpetrate the queen's bullying (e3).

[@turtle752436]

This one went a bit fast, narration wise, but otherwise a gr8 game, thank you Agad

[@MattTheParanoidKat]

Even without Dubov Carlsen is already a master and know the Russian game well having been mentored by Kasparov. Chess is not defined by borders its a game of individuals. Nepo and his team were playing for Nepo to be world chess champion and Carlsen and his team were there to defend it. Simple we aren't in the 1990s anymore

[@LucilleMilo]

chess is never without drama if drama queen karjakin is involved. he seems so bitter that he is barely relevant anymore.

[@alexandreburche2926]

Maybe a serie of the world chess championship between Magnus and Karjakin would be nice on the mood of this last match. #suggestion

[@davidanderson_surrey_bc]

"Beating someone once isn't revenge." - Magnus Carlsen "Magnus is correct. You must crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women." - Conan the Barbarian