Chess is Never Without Drama

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@generalkenobi5533
@generalkenobi5533 2 жыл бұрын
To me, the whole "Russian helping a non-Russian" thing is evidence that the game of chess really does transcend national boundaries. I mean, let's be real here. Very few people cared or maybe even realized that Magnus and Nepo were "representing" specific countries. They're just two fantastic players duking it out for the world title.
@alpha007org
@alpha007org 2 жыл бұрын
OK, but on the other hand, title "Chess champion _insertYear_" because a strange thing for me personally. If you pick two GMs in top 20 (or maybe top 50), every pair could draw 14 games straight. Such is the state of chess in current times. Nepo had to try to create imbalances, because if you look back, after ~20-25 moves in every game they could start trading to oblivion and draw the game.
@alpha007org
@alpha007org 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized I commented under the wrong post, and now I don't see that comment anymore. I agree with you about nationalities, obviously.
@danieln.1034
@danieln.1034 2 жыл бұрын
Say that to the Russians. They dominated chess in most of recent history with the Soviets. Agreed though
@LenhaRDT0130
@LenhaRDT0130 2 жыл бұрын
Russians only
@discharm210
@discharm210 2 жыл бұрын
You can say that because you're not living in the country with high nationalistic sense. Im sure this kind of drama will also happen if this involve (lets say) Chinese or Indian chess player
@FreemanWelterweight
@FreemanWelterweight 2 жыл бұрын
The real strength of team Magnus is the power of friendship between him and Dubov
@skirk248
@skirk248 2 жыл бұрын
who would've thought a team that liked working together would win
@logistaur
@logistaur 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the real chess championship is the friends we made along the way
@0xf7c8
@0xf7c8 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated lol
@johnshogskins4443
@johnshogskins4443 2 жыл бұрын
Magnus only keeps Dubov around because he thinks he's not good enough to challenge him for the world title....lmao
@arrowghost
@arrowghost 2 жыл бұрын
It's too dramatic when I even heard the word 'treason' in the accusations against Dubov. But today's Russia is probably not going to punish him like how the Soviet Union did to Taimanov when he was obliterated by Bobby Fischer.
@franciscoeduardo6250
@franciscoeduardo6250 2 жыл бұрын
Karjakin is such a bro. Pulling out a drama out of thin air just so people can forget the WCC and stop making memes of Ian.
@rohanpatel767
@rohanpatel767 2 жыл бұрын
Respect 😊😊
@tmspironic6422
@tmspironic6422 2 жыл бұрын
Out of thin air, hmm never have heard Putin called that before …
@phaque3115
@phaque3115 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha that’s a very astute statement bravo 👏
@andyalvarico6139
@andyalvarico6139 2 жыл бұрын
Having Dubov as Magnus’ second is just very dangerous. Solid positional and precision added with creative attacking mindset will probably be unstoppable.
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@Alekhine-lr9cp
@Alekhine-lr9cp 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcomarco7750 Rick rolling was better
@sebastiaanb2651
@sebastiaanb2651 2 жыл бұрын
Consider how Magnus attacked and sacrificed with white -- no surprise he worked with dubov.
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alekhine-lr9cp What ? Are you homophobic ??? 🤬🤬🤬🏳️‍🌈
@Alekhine-lr9cp
@Alekhine-lr9cp 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcomarco7750 nope
@kadorakasu
@kadorakasu 2 жыл бұрын
Karjakin giving off some "Soviet Comrades stick together" vibes with that tweet. Congrats to Dubov, he seems happy where he is and can grow and learn as a chess player, hope he continues to see success
@kingStribor
@kingStribor 2 жыл бұрын
Magnus is covering under the face of objectiveness. He is the best student of chess, but very poor creatively. He is just product of this chess age. Just look at his gracefulness when he lose game from some serious opponent he is afraid of, like young Alireza...or Dubov...slamming laptop or table...just a poor loser, like the king who is afraid to lose his crown...pitiful champ
@DerDimilo
@DerDimilo 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingStribor Bad analysis ngl
@kingStribor
@kingStribor 2 жыл бұрын
@@DerDimilo Sorry. I can't stand bad losers
@mysticalmagic9259
@mysticalmagic9259 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingStribor He may be a bad loser, but don't use that to detract from how good he is. I never understood why people like you think the best have to be super sportsmanlike and graceful in defeat. If you're the best, you're the best. If you don't like his behavior, go and beat him to be the best yourself. That goes for the other top players in the world too. Are they too just a product of this age, nothing more? Kasparov and Carlsen were both terrible losers. They were also both the best of their time. One could even say their hatred of losing is why they're so good in the first place? So they don't lose? I get you don't like sore losers, but using that to undermine their skill and proficiency for the game is incredibly underhanded. Carlsen is the best, product of an "age" or not, and complaining isn't going to change that fact. Maybe you could root for a better loser like Nepo, but we all saw how that went down with Magnus. ;)
@slavcevic
@slavcevic 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingStribor him being a bad loser is the reason why he is the greatest player of all time, and you not seeing that is why you'll never be great at anything
@a.jansiz4663
@a.jansiz4663 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite game ever. Dubov is an absolute genius. Hope to see him fight for a place in the next candidates tournament.
@thehorsehunter
@thehorsehunter 2 жыл бұрын
great profile pic and taste in music
@Htheorphanarian
@Htheorphanarian 2 жыл бұрын
your favourite game ever?? dude expand your chess knowledge! it's not even in my top 100.
@a.jansiz4663
@a.jansiz4663 2 жыл бұрын
@@Htheorphanarian Cool. Good for you.
@pero13258
@pero13258 2 жыл бұрын
Dobov is my favorite player, hope to see him get even better in the future.
@andrewg2032
@andrewg2032 2 жыл бұрын
Mine too. This is the greatest chess game of all time
@BadDrummerCarl
@BadDrummerCarl 2 жыл бұрын
The nationality doesn't matter who you partner with, this is a one against one match of who's better at chess. Magnus picks people who he thinks will challenge him and give him a different perspective on each position, Dubov is absolutely one of those wild players that will throw a spanner into Carlsen's practice
@PeskyWabbit.
@PeskyWabbit. 2 жыл бұрын
Nationality does matter to a certain extent, keep in mind a player represents a certain nation when playing the game
@jessehammer123
@jessehammer123 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeskyWabbit. Nepo wasn’t even technically representing Russia- the IOC’s still enforcing their ban on Russia, so he played for “CFR”.
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@sixaout1982
@sixaout1982 2 жыл бұрын
If MVL had won the candidates, should Laurent Fressinet have had to leave Carlsen's team? Also, if Russia is dumb enough to shun Dubov over this, he won't have too much trouble finding a new home.
@MAC0071234
@MAC0071234 2 жыл бұрын
I think Fressinet had said that he would of course be on the team MVL. I think it was in the World Cup commentary (I could be wrong about the event) where he was commentating with Jan Gustafson for chess24. Unlike the common misconception about the French people, they are actually very patriotic. I don't think Ian minds though, although they are very good friends and also teammates, so it could be very awkward. Even if they don't say anything or behave as if its not a big deal. Cos even if one of them doesn't even think about it, the other guy might have that nagging feeling that the other person is thinking about it. Frankly I am a bit surprised cos I thought Dubov WAS on the Nepo team. Especially since Nepo's and Dubov's style is so similar. It would have been great to have him analyse certain positions for Ian and come up with stuff that would actually naturally be great for Ian. On the other hand, having Dubov on Magnus's team would have been such an asset since its pretty much like having Ian on Magus's team. Lolz.
@brycecary
@brycecary 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said. Couldn’t agree anymore.
@jestice75
@jestice75 2 жыл бұрын
@@MAC0071234 Just guessing, but probably because Fressinet is close friends with MVL and not simply because they're both Frenchman.
@ibarix
@ibarix 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Dubov joining Firouzja in team France... daamn. :)
@yoyashuyo3485
@yoyashuyo3485 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibarix That sounds like Goku and Vegeta damn!!! Lol
@furki7589
@furki7589 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime i see Daniil‘s picture left to the chessboard, i know that something is about to burn down
@altamistral
@altamistral 2 жыл бұрын
Well, we must concede this video was perhaps the best way to take a stance on the drama and troll Karjakin.
@mohammadal-abbasi7247
@mohammadal-abbasi7247 2 жыл бұрын
Yes 😂
@sassanxersi1027
@sassanxersi1027 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Karjakin is one of the very few decent guys in chess and trolling him is something I don't embrace too. thumbs up to you.
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@Goobrino
@Goobrino 2 жыл бұрын
They all got rekt by Hammer because he just said he would be available for a team against Magnus at the right price LMAO.
@andresmartinezramos7513
@andresmartinezramos7513 2 жыл бұрын
That was gold
@vahiddj81
@vahiddj81 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov role is like a football coach. Coaches have every right in the world to work for other nations even against their owns. You see for example for UK or even Russian football team who has been coached by Hiddink or Capello previously. Karjakin and others are being ridiculous.
@arrowghost
@arrowghost 2 жыл бұрын
It's too dramatic when I even heard the word 'treason' in the accusations against Dubov. But today's Russia is probably not going to punish him like how the Soviet Union did to Taimanov when he was obliterated by Bobby Fischer.
@martinpaddle
@martinpaddle 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Magnus having a Russian coach on its own would have been such an issue. It's a bit different, becasue Dubov is a teammate of Ian. The play under the same federation and in the same team at team championships and Olympiads. Hiddink, Capello, and Eriksson (as England coach) didn't have a function for their home federation at the time. Hikaru, for example, said in his stream that he wouldn't accept an invitation to be Magnus' second if he was facing Caruana or Wesley So. It's like saying to your teammate: sorry, but I wanted your opponent to win. Now Dubov makes the argument that the world champtionship is an individual award, you represented yourself and not your country, and he happens to feel closer to Magnus. He's right in my opinion, but the coach analogy is still not quite correct.
@wesleydeng71
@wesleydeng71 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Caruana and Wesley So have both switched countries.
@vahiddj81
@vahiddj81 2 жыл бұрын
@jetlag you are mixing things up. Here Dubov being in Magnus team, He is not playing on the board. He is finding ideas but it's Magnus who plays it. Dubov being in Russian team he plays on the board and not sharing any idea with others but strategies. Coach in Magnus team, player in Russian team.
@martinpaddle
@martinpaddle 2 жыл бұрын
@@vahiddj81 it doesn't matter. A foreign coach in football would never have any paid role within his home country's federation, as player or else. Hiddink would not have coached Russia while playing for Holland. It's a conflict of interest. That's essentially Karpov's argument. The argument in Dubov's favour here is that Magnus is playing against Nepo as an individual, and not as a representative of the Russian Chess federation.
@tomas6207
@tomas6207 2 жыл бұрын
A Dubov game is always a treat for my friends at the library.
@crackawood
@crackawood 2 жыл бұрын
my crackhead friends in the alley hate chess so we always have to fight
@pamansaru327
@pamansaru327 2 жыл бұрын
combined it with 1959 Candidate knowledge
@mardenhill
@mardenhill 2 жыл бұрын
fun fact: karjakin was actually a UKRAINIAN citizen and represented the ukraine until he switched to russia and later on also spoke out in support of the annexation of crimea. makes it even more weird to see his zwitscher post. chess is predominantly an individual sport, with a few artificial team events, nationalities are irrelevant there nowadays.
@MultiJejje
@MultiJejje 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that strange. I know few "Ukrainians" in Finland and they're pro Putin because their father is. It's hard to understand this if you live in some another country because some "Ukrainians" are basically Russians.
@Lolersters
@Lolersters 2 жыл бұрын
Nepo didn't invite dubov because he didn't want to put him inan awkward position. What a considerate guy.
@Whiskypapa
@Whiskypapa 2 жыл бұрын
Nepo might have lost the championship, but he won the respect of the entire chess community for his exemplary conduct before, during and after the match. I’m Norwegian and obviously rooted for Magnus, but I know that he wouldn’t have been as gracious in defeat as Nepo was. I liked Nepo for his playing style before the match, and now I love him for his overall character. Quickly becoming my second favourite chess player.
@noodleexpanding3407
@noodleexpanding3407 2 жыл бұрын
Take this like but know that I'm not happy about that
@part6133
@part6133 2 жыл бұрын
This chess champion is not the Olympics. Chess is not a sport. No normal Russian has loyalty to the Rockets.
@Whiskypapa
@Whiskypapa 2 жыл бұрын
@@part6133 chess is by definition a sport. It’ not part of the olympics, so it’s not an olympic sport, but it is a sport.
@СергейКлементьев-и4ф
@СергейКлементьев-и4ф 2 жыл бұрын
Karjakin is just upset that Dubov didn't give him any intel on team Carlsen's preparation
@edgali
@edgali 2 жыл бұрын
always a good day when Agadmator chooses a Dubov game
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@supbro125
@supbro125 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcomarco7750 lmao
@edgali
@edgali 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcomarco7750 tf is this shit
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
@@edgali A based video
@seanhunter111
@seanhunter111 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's why Magnus is the world champion and Karjakin isn't. He just choses people who he likes and work well together rather than basing it on weird patriotism or anythnig like that. Dubov made a big contribution to team Magnus. Magnus played the Catalan twice, which I can't imagine him doing without Dubov in the camp.
@insanestuff9470
@insanestuff9470 2 жыл бұрын
😉😜👋👋
@ayush6025
@ayush6025 2 жыл бұрын
Magnus is world champion just because he’s the best chess player in existence. None of the stuff you mentioned.
@nirolf12
@nirolf12 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayush6025 not quite, the behind the scenes preparation plays a huge role in classical chess
@akaneriyun4774
@akaneriyun4774 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayush6025 both that and his team helping him.
@helix5779
@helix5779 2 жыл бұрын
nothing weird about patriotism. its one of the most normal and natural things that someone could express. its why nations even exist. why your ancestors survived against others.
@MrTVx99
@MrTVx99 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised Karjakin isn't taking shots at Kramnik, Kasparov or Karpov for helping Magnus and give him guidance and inspiration in his younger years. Those guys betrayed Russia as well I guess.
@wanderson3212
@wanderson3212 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck logic, right?
@seregasuperman254
@seregasuperman254 2 жыл бұрын
Kasparov is a traitor for those hwo support Putin. He was in opposition and after a while just fled and decided to live calmly in U.S. Good for him. Could have been found himself in jail or dead.
@eloytoro
@eloytoro 2 жыл бұрын
Chess players usually have 0 IQ for anything that isn't chess. Tal wasn't even able to operate a kettle
@seregasuperman254
@seregasuperman254 2 жыл бұрын
Karjakin is a Putin supporter. After the match with Carlsen he started to take part in some political activities. He is a member of Civic chamber of Russian Federation. It's government agency. And for our government it is like this: you with us or you against us. There is this thinking. But there was a poll in one popular russian sport website. And only 15% support Karjakin's opinion. So it's all good.
@user-ro9md9wp3j
@user-ro9md9wp3j 2 жыл бұрын
​@crying leftard because if you cry about democracy in Russia, you get sent to the gulag
@aaaxudjeksosapl8
@aaaxudjeksosapl8 2 жыл бұрын
The WCC is Carlsen vs Nepo, not Norway vs Russia.. simple as that
@PeskyWabbit.
@PeskyWabbit. 2 жыл бұрын
At the same time each player represents a country.
@DLT739
@DLT739 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeskyWabbit. No, Russians are currently banned from representing their country, because of their orchestrating campaign of cheating
@PeskyWabbit.
@PeskyWabbit. 2 жыл бұрын
@@DLT739 lol yea the russophobia is really strong last few years. But it's all political. Everyone knows Nepo represents russia
@palbal
@palbal 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Norway. Thanks agad for the work you do! The whole situation is blown out of proportions. In many other sports, different nationalities work together as part of a team.
@haroldasraz
@haroldasraz 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Dubov. The wealth of knowledge that he takes from working with Magnus is mega. Thus knowledge he will be able to apply for self improvement and teaching the next generation. Whilst, Nepo is an amazing GM, but he needs to improve his fitness, psychological stability and have another go.
@pino6782
@pino6782 2 жыл бұрын
@John Napier Fit people don't necessarily need to be slim. I think what he meant was endurance and stamina rather than body weight.
@Apeez-ny4iz
@Apeez-ny4iz 2 жыл бұрын
That's how he won worlds rapid, van forest, won tata steel.
@chrisdin4109
@chrisdin4109 2 жыл бұрын
At that level being fit gives you an advantage.
@theTutenstien
@theTutenstien 2 жыл бұрын
@@pino6782 having a beer gut wouldnt help would it. He is fat lol no offence
@PawanDeshmane
@PawanDeshmane 2 жыл бұрын
Daniil is a mad man. Just awesome guy. Totally underrated player in my opinion.
@onnoquinten2944
@onnoquinten2944 2 жыл бұрын
Well chess ratings are pretty accurate I think
@alexhein9136
@alexhein9136 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov basically said “you vibe with who you vibe with”. Perhaps humorless patriotism is not his jam. Personally I’d rather be “Man with Ideas” than receive a plane ticket to Dubai with no explanation but hey
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@asdf12369
@asdf12369 2 жыл бұрын
This made me lose all respect for karjakin that i didn't have anyway
@mattUniversityofMinnesota
@mattUniversityofMinnesota 2 жыл бұрын
...the ironic thing is that Karjakin isn't even Russian....he is from UKRAINE
@Ball7399
@Ball7399 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattUniversityofMinnesota exactly, Karjakin should really keep quite on representing your true nation because he can be considered a traitor
@Sletty73
@Sletty73 2 жыл бұрын
Strange remark by Karjakin. The point is not if I would accept their help. The point is if they would offer it to someone that might turn out to become a future challenger for Magnus. And of course they would (at the right price), as almost EVERYBODY does (they are professionals).
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@elgonzo5
@elgonzo5 2 жыл бұрын
I congratulate Dubov! He and Magnus are clearly friends and working with a friend on a goal (and getting paid for it) is one of life’s delights.
@HH-bq2up
@HH-bq2up 2 жыл бұрын
Next WCC: Karjakin helps Magnus against Dubov 😂
@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n
@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n 2 жыл бұрын
Magnus is basically the anime protagonist who got opponent teams strongest player's (Dubov) respect after defeating him, which makes the opponent join Protagonist on his adventure only to get a character development arc where he has to face his former henchmen (Nepo and Sergei) and help Protagonist to achieve greatness. Anime: King's Gambit:WCC edition
@cuberious1419
@cuberious1419 2 жыл бұрын
*Every move has a flashback*
@GardEngebretsen
@GardEngebretsen 2 жыл бұрын
Except Dubov is like the 8th strongest Russian grandmaster.
@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox
@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox 2 жыл бұрын
Can you nerds stop relating everything to anime. You realise there is other fiction right?
@kunalsingh4418
@kunalsingh4418 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox no
@MsJavaWolf
@MsJavaWolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox There is also manga.
@pauldeck4500
@pauldeck4500 2 жыл бұрын
4:10 And it was in this position that Medo rolled over.
@itzfosheezzy2677
@itzfosheezzy2677 2 жыл бұрын
Chess is changing for the better with Magnus as Champion. Respect for Dubov for joining team Magnus.
@theactualtrokz
@theactualtrokz 2 жыл бұрын
Why on earth would anyone pass on the opportunity to be apart of arguably the best chess player ever team
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
@@LegendLength Not a Rickroll I swear : kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIPMnWNuhsloetE
@allwynmasc1
@allwynmasc1 2 жыл бұрын
Right. An opportunity to work with a player who's probably one of the greatest players in the history of chess and these guys are trying to shame him for his choice
@theactualtrokz
@theactualtrokz 2 жыл бұрын
@@LegendLength yes. That's the definition of competition.
@theactualtrokz
@theactualtrokz 2 жыл бұрын
@@LegendLength competition is to compete at the highest level to see who truly is the champion, its not a team sport like rugby/football etc. At the end of the day it's magnus that's out there competing.
@theactualtrokz
@theactualtrokz 2 жыл бұрын
@@LegendLength well there is a fundamental difference between your immediate blood relative and some proverbial "mother country"
@larsriise1396
@larsriise1396 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov has been working with Carlsen for years. And it makes him a better player. Some Russlans are bad losers.
@Relisoc
@Relisoc 2 жыл бұрын
People always take sports and such too far. It’s funny to joke about dubov being a traitor or whatever but some people like actually think he has committed some unspeakable act
@simohayha6031
@simohayha6031 2 жыл бұрын
Did you really write Russ Ians as in Ian Nepomniachtchi
@hitrapperandartistdababy
@hitrapperandartistdababy 2 жыл бұрын
I can alreadyvsay without a doubt that Magnus would not care the slightest wether his oppoents seconds where Norwegian.
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@hitrapperandartistdababy
@hitrapperandartistdababy 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcomarco7750 ok
@Killua656
@Killua656 2 жыл бұрын
would you rather work with your friend or with a dude you have no connection to other than having the same nationality? Seriously these is really immature by Karjakin and everyone else who is blaming Dubov for working with Magnus. The Championship match is player vs player not country vs country. So stupid.
@giorgisulukhia1574
@giorgisulukhia1574 2 жыл бұрын
Karjakin is not the one who should be talking about the home country betrayal
@MultiBejn
@MultiBejn 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@alekhyadas2187
@alekhyadas2187 2 жыл бұрын
Karjakin: Is sad Bully Dubov: "Gonna Cry?"
@СергейКлементьев-и4ф
@СергейКлементьев-и4ф 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna put some b4 in your eye"
@feelsveryChadman
@feelsveryChadman 2 жыл бұрын
take my like , funny man
@quasarstarpower2858
@quasarstarpower2858 2 жыл бұрын
@@СергейКлементьев-и4ф that's nice.
@donkbonktj5773
@donkbonktj5773 2 жыл бұрын
@@СергейКлементьев-и4ф Haha nice one ''before'' in your eye
@kristofferb-e1337
@kristofferb-e1337 2 жыл бұрын
When almost all the biggest Russian names in chess join forces and still looses. What to do then? Start pointing fingers at others. Karjakin has been involved in two world championships against Carlsen and lost both times.
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@iguoyrxayananikihs9505
@iguoyrxayananikihs9505 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they are pretty pathetic honestly
@Omar-of4tz
@Omar-of4tz 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Dubov is spying on Magnus' analysis and playstyle so that he will beat him in the next WCC.
@mogyorospusztai
@mogyorospusztai 2 жыл бұрын
Would be awesome to end his streak. It is damn hard to beat someone at his level because he can easily draw every game and a drawish result means he keeps his title.
@sebastiaanb2651
@sebastiaanb2651 2 жыл бұрын
Magnus made a joke about something like that when they asked him who he would most like on his team, dead or alive, in one of the interviews. The player he mentioned (with specific year) later challanged the person he assisted and won. It certainly crossed his mind he might have to face Dubov someday.
@B3Band
@B3Band 2 жыл бұрын
There are only two spots left, and they will come from the FIDE Grand Prix. Dubov is not in the Grand Prix. BUT there are two spots left in the Grand Prix (nominated by FIDE and the organizer), so maybe still a very small chance.
@leo25darklight
@leo25darklight 2 жыл бұрын
@@B3Band The remaining two players are likely to be selected from those who played the last FIDE World Cup and/or FIDE Grand Swiss based on rating. There may be exception to this. Did Dubov play in any of these two tournaments this year?
@aeroevans9987
@aeroevans9987 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Nepo lost because he was... RUSSIAN HIS MOVES!!!
@phaque3115
@phaque3115 2 жыл бұрын
Very Punny lol hahaha 🥳👏👏
@teodordanielescu3250
@teodordanielescu3250 2 жыл бұрын
Karjakin with the 1972 ussr vibes when they played "6v1"
@shubhampawar9137
@shubhampawar9137 2 жыл бұрын
I m impressed by dubovs ideas 💡💡💡💡 how can he does these master piece 🧩🧩
@dhruvkapadia7634
@dhruvkapadia7634 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov creates drama everywhere. Doesn’t matter if it’s on or off the chessboard
@VideoSchredder
@VideoSchredder 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't Dubov, who created the drama. It was overly patriotic Russians
@vanillakevs5469
@vanillakevs5469 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov is just vibin while everyone tries to take him down.
@AnHonestDoubter
@AnHonestDoubter 2 жыл бұрын
It would be an interesting video to go into the history of "seconds." When did this practice start? Do any GMs forego having one (I heard Wesley So doesn't, could have changed by now though)? What does being a second entail? Are they compensated?
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
@John Dew Not a Rickroll I Swear : kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIPMnWNuhsloetE
@lajos-berenyi
@lajos-berenyi 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know when did the history of seconds start, but I know that Botvinik had seconds already in his Word Championchip matches.
@Dan1elAndrade
@Dan1elAndrade 2 жыл бұрын
very well compensated
@AnHonestDoubter
@AnHonestDoubter 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dan1elAndrade I assumed so, but is it by day? By hour? % of prize? Is it a contract that is signed?
@jamesfriedman4645
@jamesfriedman4645 2 жыл бұрын
Only a fool would find offence with a player studying with Carlsen
@pauldeck4500
@pauldeck4500 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov was doubtlessly paid handsomely for helping Carlson as a second.
@Goobrino
@Goobrino 2 жыл бұрын
Even if he wasn't paid as well as he did, he is close friends with Magnus. He already said that it's better to be in a team that like each other contrary to the Russian teams where it's all elo and no synergy.
@MrThomaspieter
@MrThomaspieter 2 жыл бұрын
@@Goobrino When/Where did he say it?
@axeluchiha5831
@axeluchiha5831 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrThomaspieter in the chess24 video revealing Magnus team. Also in the comments Dubov made addressing the issues himself.
@RiskyBisky11
@RiskyBisky11 2 жыл бұрын
He’s already well off, really about the vibes n chess atp
@komaddog
@komaddog 2 жыл бұрын
So Dubov knows most of Magnus' prep given that he's part of the team?
@mubaraksenju7521
@mubaraksenju7521 2 жыл бұрын
Usually that’s how it works
@olzhasarystanov9582
@olzhasarystanov9582 2 жыл бұрын
There should be no place for so-called patriotism in chess. Karjakin’s mindset is just stuck in the cold war period. He should be proud of Dubov being a part of the strongest chess team and making a contribution. You play chess to show a beautiful performance, not to prove your country’s dominance at it. I like Nepo as a strong player and an individual. If there are anyone to blame for his loss except himself, those are people like Karjakin who just put too much unnecessary weight on Nepo’s shoulders. Stuff like - you must win for your country, the whole mother Russia is looking at you and other bulls**t
@helix5779
@helix5779 2 жыл бұрын
nothing wrong with patriotism. its one of the most normal and natural things that someone could express. its why nations even exist. why your ancestors survived against others. you're essentially representing and inspiring people who come from the same nation you do. usually people with your DNA and appearance etc. its literally everywhere in every competitive arena ever. everyone does it.
@soumyajitroy5239
@soumyajitroy5239 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember this is the game that got attention of literally everyone last year
@marcomarco7750
@marcomarco7750 2 жыл бұрын
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@pawnriot3269
@pawnriot3269 2 жыл бұрын
Is Karjakin critical of Kasparov too for training a young Magnus? This is so dumb.
@ShamGam3
@ShamGam3 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Heine Nielsen deserves more credit. He was also Anands coach.
@bobbynygaardchrisitansen6874
@bobbynygaardchrisitansen6874 2 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Heine_Nielsen
@xethnyrrow
@xethnyrrow 2 жыл бұрын
Never a bad move when you decide to show a Dubov game, thanks!
@Headhunter_212
@Headhunter_212 2 жыл бұрын
Smart move by Magnus to have Daniil and Van Foreest as seconds. Keeping his future competitors close to him. He’s scouting them now AND starting the head games for 2023 and beyond. Larry Holmes was a sparring partner for Ali and others before he won the Heavyweight belt.
@Atombender
@Atombender 2 жыл бұрын
Karjakin is still sore about 2016.
@FresnoRog
@FresnoRog 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to display the time left when a move is made?I love the calculations but the time constraints provide great perspective.
@rokanza2293
@rokanza2293 2 жыл бұрын
How petty some of you are hahah
@sixjhontongalamar979
@sixjhontongalamar979 2 жыл бұрын
Agad already mentions the time whenever it is necessary (when a move is very thought out consuming a lot of time, time constraints, etc.). More than that would be asking too much.
@BiggyJimbo
@BiggyJimbo 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think there's an easy way for him to find out the exact timings, without watching a video recording of the game and looking at the clock for every move. This obviously isn't practical. As far as I'm aware, only the moves themselves are recorded for future review, and not their respective times.
@parthiv17
@parthiv17 2 жыл бұрын
"Everyone bring division and enjoy it so ridiculous is the idea of sports and nationalism ". - great person I don't reckon his name.
@antoniobacic5674
@antoniobacic5674 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov did nothing wrong, on the contrary!
@arrowghost
@arrowghost 2 жыл бұрын
In the chess world, it's a free for all, but it's too dramatic when I even heard the word 'treason' in the accusations against Dubov. But today's Russia is probably not going to punish him like how the Soviet Union did to Taimanov when he was obliterated by Bobby Fischer.
@pranitkatwal462
@pranitkatwal462 2 жыл бұрын
May God save Dubov from the KGB
@ibarix
@ibarix 2 жыл бұрын
CarJackin still living in the Cold War. Poor soul.
@jasonkoch3182
@jasonkoch3182 2 жыл бұрын
Karjakin is quickly moving his way up the list of players I want to see do poorly. I don't know if he'll ever top Peter "Douche Move" Svidler, but he's definitely in competition for number 2, which seems appropriate.
@mikoaj1349
@mikoaj1349 2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, what has Svidler done?
@omayaki5264
@omayaki5264 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikoaj1349 I want to know aswell
@milfschnitteausdemkuhlrega7015
@milfschnitteausdemkuhlrega7015 2 жыл бұрын
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@phaque3115
@phaque3115 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah elaborate on this for us.. I had to do a full breakdown of Nakamura and his bullcrap with Eric Hansen in another comments section but I’ve not heard this before about svidler
@jasonkoch3182
@jasonkoch3182 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikoaj1349 A few years ago, agadmator did a recap video of a game and the STL Chess Club sent him a cease and desist letter claiming it was their property. Agadmator read the letter on the air, and Svidler called it a "douche move" despite agadmator clearly being in the right. The Chess Club relented a little while later. Agad had done nothing wrong and at the time constantly praised Svidler for his play and his work as a commentator and you could tell what he said bothered agad. It's been impossible for me to respect Svidler since. I root for him to lose every time he plays.
@abhishekladdha7198
@abhishekladdha7198 2 жыл бұрын
Just 2 questions 1. If we both are from a same country is it necessary that we would have great relations(better than someone from other country)? 2. Was this match between Russia and Norway or between Nepo and Magnus? The answer to these questions will help you guys in coming to a concluding answer.
@themerovingian7154
@themerovingian7154 2 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't about Norway and Russian then why they played Norway national anthem in closing ceremony after Magnus received gold medal?
@saatviksharma1532
@saatviksharma1532 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Vidit someday plays for the world championship title against Magnus and someone like Vishy or Adhiban is in Magnus's team. How will we feel or leave us,how will Vidit feel? It is easy to look from the outside because we are neither Russians nor Norwegians. But I think this can be a big issue if it happens for one's own country.
@rupert909
@rupert909 2 жыл бұрын
@@themerovingian7154 the correct answer was nepo vs carlsen. It wouldn't matter if they played the Australian national anthem, its nepo v carlsen.
@thomasrad5202
@thomasrad5202 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov has been on team Carlsen for many years now and they seem to have a relationship which transcends nationality. Nepo understands this and chose not to ask Dubov out of respect for this. If it had been Caruana who was challenging Carlsen right now instead of Nepo, I'm sure Carlsen would have selected the same team.
@kristofferb-e1337
@kristofferb-e1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@themerovingian7154 World Team Chess Championship is another cup. This one is Carlsen vs Nepo. There has not been a world cup in chess with India vs Norway or USA vs Norway..
@escapedlunatic27
@escapedlunatic27 2 жыл бұрын
Hammer has previously worked with Carlsen, so he probably wouldn't offer to help a future opponent of his old boss. As far as I'm aware Tari never has, so he would be a free agent if either player wanted to ask him for help in a future match. Karjakin's comment shows the mindset of the old Soviet school, when they all worked together against Fischer (and later Korchnoi). Times have moved on - no-one is obliged to help one side rather than the other because they're the same nationality.
@magnarion
@magnarion 2 жыл бұрын
Karjakin is just being defensive, he is the minister after all
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 2 жыл бұрын
You know this game is actually drawn? After ..Rf6, White has to check the king first and then take the c8 rook with his queen, and only then take the rook with the bishop (otherwise Black has a back rank checkmate). This leaves White with a queen and a 2:1 pawn majority on the kingside (the queen will pick up a pawn once the swaps are done) vs a bishop, a knight, and three connected passed pawns on the queenside. It's a fortress: the queen can only sacrifice itself once, and it's actually not that hard to keep everything protected in a little mobile house around the king. If White tries to push its 2 to 1 majority, Black has more than enough pawns to win the race, forcing White into passivity. Try it yourself - use any engine you like. In the resigned position, Leela sees it as basically drawn immediately - Stockfish thinks White is winning, but follow its recommended moves and it eventually figures out that White can't make progress. It makes no difference if White first plays something like a4 to take away the back rank threat before bishop takes rook in order to preserve a rook on both sides - the three pawns and two minor pieces are just too good at defending the King. There are very few only moves: a human supergrandmaster could probably do it in classical time control if they managed to see beyond White's position looking overwhelming. You have to know it's there before you start looking for things like how to move the knight to the defense of the king with tempo, what's the best diagonal for the bishop to occupy, etc.
@lifeson90
@lifeson90 2 жыл бұрын
as an englishman we have no problem with this, so long as legal. we've had swedes and italians in charge of our national football team, is something to be proud of really, breaks down barriers. so long as the actual player/s are one nationality of course. very well done Magnus, Daniil and others who helped him
@taowroland8697
@taowroland8697 2 жыл бұрын
Why are barriers bad? England is worse off today in all metrics regarding people's quality of life, than 40 years ago.
@B3Band
@B3Band 2 жыл бұрын
As long as the players are one nationality....as if England doesn't poach Irish and Scottish players with English grandparents all the time for their national team.
@1.4142
@1.4142 2 жыл бұрын
Chess is a game of perfect information. We're all on the same page and anyone from any country can understand it.
@MrStaggerLeeee
@MrStaggerLeeee 2 жыл бұрын
Ian didn't represent Rusia since Rusia have cheated so much they are not allowed to participated in any international game/sport under their own flag. Besides it is pretty normal to have trainers and staff from any nation in any games/sports where they risk playing against there own country
2 жыл бұрын
Dubov joined Carlsen in 2018. So this drama is very odd, Karjakin is being a sore loser. The nationalism in chess is very weird, Did Dubov tell Nepo to play c5? , Don't think so... Also, like I said if Dubov joined Carlsen 2 months ago, I could argue but since he has joined in 2018, this is not even arguable. Also, didn't Karjakin switch Ukraine to Russia lol, that seems more betrayal to me, ngl.
@kristofferb-e1337
@kristofferb-e1337 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the members on this Nepo team came with help to Carlsen, in the world cup in India. They had some ideas about how to beat Anand. It is said that Magnus used these ideas in one of the winning games. They would rather see Magnus than Anand as champ. I think this is a sore man"s (Karjakin) feeling. Two times involved against Carlsen, in World Cups, and both times losing.
@kkarx
@kkarx 2 жыл бұрын
Karjakin is ethnic Russian from Crimea. There live millions of Russians in Ukraine (what a surprise...) and it is really not nice from Dubov to help Carlsen in this situation. No decent human being would do that but hey these chess masters are often weird.
@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n
@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n 2 жыл бұрын
@@kkarx bruh you're a special kid aren't you
@kkarx
@kkarx 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n Butthurt too much by the facts?
@dstreetz91
@dstreetz91 2 жыл бұрын
@@kkarx A decent human being would be nice to anyone regardless of nationality, hyper nationalism is stupidity. It's like saying to your neighbor I would help you, but you're from country X so I'll help someone from my country instead.
@Original2BBB
@Original2BBB 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to take a moment to appreciate David Kimura, he's a most excellent subscriber
@teippio5613
@teippio5613 2 жыл бұрын
agadmator: "And now Bishop to E7. So just a normal 3 knights variation of Queens gambit." Me who knows nothing about chess: "Ah yes, I was completely expecting that. So obvious."
@matthewpelletier6900
@matthewpelletier6900 2 жыл бұрын
Always happy to see a Dubov game, man's crazy.
@henrylai9593
@henrylai9593 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov is my favorite chess player
@davidemiozzi8589
@davidemiozzi8589 2 жыл бұрын
Hot takes from Karjakin. I also recall an interview of his on Chess24 saying that Nepo was losing because of bad luck. Who knew, all this time, and all I needed to improve my chess was a talysman
@marineboy1964
@marineboy1964 2 жыл бұрын
You pay the money You get the choice It's a job at the end of the day
@rickdynes
@rickdynes 2 жыл бұрын
word to the wise Agadmator...when DUBOV plays he doesn't open the G-file but rather Dubov Opens Up His G-STYLE
@ayushmanatri9114
@ayushmanatri9114 2 жыл бұрын
Sergey is missing another russian who played a pivotal role in helping Magnus
@Scarter63
@Scarter63 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@mdashrafuzzamansunny2145
@mdashrafuzzamansunny2145 2 жыл бұрын
Who?
@sudhanshukumar150
@sudhanshukumar150 2 жыл бұрын
@@mdashrafuzzamansunny2145 Nepo
@mdashrafuzzamansunny2145
@mdashrafuzzamansunny2145 2 жыл бұрын
@@sudhanshukumar150 you are confused. Nepo was the challenger for the title. He was not Magnus second
@ayushmanatri9114
@ayushmanatri9114 2 жыл бұрын
@@mdashrafuzzamansunny2145 he still did his best to help Magnus though :)
@bigv8820
@bigv8820 2 жыл бұрын
Morphy and Barnes have to resurrect and join team Magnus
@shandikaartha3864
@shandikaartha3864 2 жыл бұрын
Are we live in fischer era? I mean we live in a more open era and russia should be proud they have a lot of strong GM that helps other players outside russia, even though the world championship title is not from russia but the fact russia dominate chess is undeniable
@eoghaininfacundodiarmuid
@eoghaininfacundodiarmuid 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Sergey Karjakin (and other Russians that are salty with Dubov). The success of Carlsen should be deemed a success of Russian Chess. Kasparov once trained Carlsen; Nepo once helped Carlsen. Most of principles of Soviet chess have been adopted by many countries and many elite GMs around the world. Russians should be proud of the work done by Dubov for Magnus. You know Sergey, I am a patriotic guy and have strong national pride. But your patriotism and pride are misplaced. There are times to be patriotic, there are times to be professional, there are times to be friends with people of different race/citizenship, and there are times to be human.
@armenhaddad1761
@armenhaddad1761 2 жыл бұрын
"specially not capture with the queen, you know rook c8 and stuff" - you're a legend man
@phoenixalpha5789
@phoenixalpha5789 2 жыл бұрын
Formula 1 is very inspiring to that debate, no one team is composed out of the same nationality.
@kevinjohnson4498
@kevinjohnson4498 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov is very anti Putin... Nepo is very pro Putin. Dubov was never going to be on Nepo's team.
@briandegraff6823
@briandegraff6823 2 жыл бұрын
Who were Ian's seconds for the match?
@wixom01
@wixom01 2 жыл бұрын
"A Dubovious move!" ~ agadmator in a past video, lol.
@scurtin99
@scurtin99 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov was also part of the Magnus team during match with Caruana....
@hitrapperandartistdababy
@hitrapperandartistdababy 2 жыл бұрын
Could you perhaps sometime show us some games by Peter Heine Nielsen? It would be interesting to see some games from Bent Larsens successor who then coached the current world champion for a time and has been his seconds for several years.
@B3Band
@B3Band 2 жыл бұрын
He was also Anand's coach. I guess he's a bad guy too because Anand is Indian and faced Magnus before /s
@fredjouneau7489
@fredjouneau7489 2 жыл бұрын
Dear serguei, this kind of comment is reminiscent of what Spassky suffered. As a modest chess player, I try to learn from my mistakes.
@Vovalondonskiy
@Vovalondonskiy 2 жыл бұрын
Even clever Russians live with the USSR mentality where the whole world spins around Great Russia. It's Russia against the world lol )
@ultrainstinctshaggy669
@ultrainstinctshaggy669 2 жыл бұрын
Potential matches Dubov vs Alireza Dubov vs Magnus
@TheHawk007
@TheHawk007 2 жыл бұрын
Dubov the genius!🔥
@strooomon
@strooomon 2 жыл бұрын
All Dubov games bring a smile to my face. Thanks for making the day brighte
@rogeru73
@rogeru73 2 жыл бұрын
How much of the price money do the seconds usually get? I read somewhere that they usually gets a cut.
@Glendragon
@Glendragon 2 жыл бұрын
Usually get a cut as in… a salary regardless of the prize money, often used for trading your skills and time for some money to feed yourself? They might get a small bonus if they win just as a nice treat and a reason to work even harder.
@dont-want-no-wrench
@dont-want-no-wrench 2 жыл бұрын
karjakin channeling the soviet stooge persona
@wasp7969
@wasp7969 2 жыл бұрын
i really missed tall games with agadmator explaining it
@LucilleMilo
@LucilleMilo 2 жыл бұрын
chess is never without drama if drama queen karjakin is involved. he seems so bitter that he is barely relevant anymore.
@mattUniversityofMinnesota
@mattUniversityofMinnesota 2 жыл бұрын
...the ironic thing is that Karjakin isn't even Russian....he is from UKRAINE
@nimag.8257
@nimag.8257 2 жыл бұрын
I said it before and I say it again: Chess drama = best drama
@johngleeman8347
@johngleeman8347 2 жыл бұрын
"[...] just a small remark."
@haciendohora2711
@haciendohora2711 2 жыл бұрын
i cant wait for Magnus vs Dubov in classical, in any tournament.
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
@davidanderson_surrey_bc 2 жыл бұрын
"Beating someone once isn't revenge." - Magnus Carlsen "Magnus is correct. You must crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women." - Conan the Barbarian
@madscientist3134
@madscientist3134 2 жыл бұрын
Nation doesn't matter in chess championship. Candidates are not selected based on nationalities. Often, it can happen that more than one candidate is from the same nation and no candidate from a powerful chess nation.
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