Chess Rivals #8 GingerGM vs John Bartholomew - Epic

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[@lukacalov1988]

Simon: What to do here??? *spends the whole min explaining strategic tactic * and then Simon:....or i could go mental.....yeah lets go mental hahahah he is the best

[@sheledon3272]

Holy Shit that first game!!

[@darnk9785]

i'm a fan of both channels but I couldn't help but join Team Harry for this one.

[@SaintD382]

Same here! I'd probably choose Simon no matter who the opponent is, as Simon's the most likable and fun.

[@adamcunningham8248]

"Hope you're all drinking!" :Originally streamed at lunchtime on a Thursday

[@deeptoilet]

somewhere on earth it IS 5 o'clock ;)

[@dd-lk5io]

Watching in rehab 😢

[@billybobb8850]

​@@dd-lk5ioyou get your phone in rehab? I hope your recovery goes well.

[@kwijung]

Those constant chimes make it very hard to watch. Save those for subs at least, not for everyone who follows!

[@joegreenwood86]

We play chess for fun. There are plenty who play “better” than Simon but his wins are almost always checkmate attacks which is what it's all about. Unfortunately I try to play in his style and blunder pretty much every single game haha

[@barkman1739]

So does he, but that’s ok in blitz when there’s only one complicated winning move that your opponent has to find.

[@richardfredlund8846]

it's a really hard style

[@dotunoke6865]

'Look at Eddy, he's an absolute lunatic!' Nice commentary

[@ritvikradhakrishnan6279]

The first game, bloody brilliant.

[@Radorf]

I've discovered ur stream through john's. Very entertaining show and really crazy attacking stuff, keep going with the good job.

[@AlintraxAika]

fuck, I love william's playstyle, so exciting, COME ON HARRY, GET IN THERE SON, COME ON!!!!!!!!!!! #teamharry

[@kelvint5894]

Mateus Lima Harry is mother theresa

[@martinet1985]

how is that so? I thought Harry was the prince.

[@kelvint5894]

Harry is all things good That is what I mean.

[@jasonrawls6959]

Awesome show but it would have been sooooo much better without the constant jingling every time somebody follows.

[@michaelbauers8800]

yeah, it's a bit too loud

[@patrikschoupal9926]

Extremely annoying

[@bifferspice]

my two favourite chess streamers playing each other. due to favouring trying to play like simon, i rooted for him in this one. what a cracking match. regular rematches please, your styles are made for playing each other.

[@josketobben]

*fravouring

[@AgentSmith911]

Computer analysis of each game in courtesy of lichess: Game 1: en.lichess.org/rQIBTjJM Game 2: en.lichess.org/QH7ql6kj Game 3: en.lichess.org/qi8ijEJx Game 4: en.lichess.org/FeuaSBmd Game 5: en.lichess.org/hOSnR8sH Game 6: en.lichess.org/guKM85Ps Game 7: en.lichess.org/E7Ru2L6z

[@Ibakecookiess]

Simon the chimes need to stop holy shit they're annoying

[@stollenstrolch]

John has nerves of steel in time trouble - very impressive. His playstyle is not my cup of tea, though. I will always be rooting for the romantic player. I won't say John didn't deserve to win, but I'm also sure you would've won without the endgame rookblunder. The majority of my games remind me of some of yours: Outplaying the opponent at some point and then blundering the game in a single move ;)

[@tommonk7651]

Rematch! Rematch!

[@glum_hippo]

This is the most exciting thing since I invented sliced bread

[@glum_hippo]

22:06 BOO-laka-shaa

[@glum_hippo]

"Chaos theory: a butterfly flaps its wings, and I ... bloody... kill. Ah right, he's stopping that. Good move."

[@kingsgambit]

that was so hilarious

[@particleonazock2246]

@@glum_hippo Time stamp for when he says this about chaos theory?

[@glum_hippo]

@@particleonazock2246 You really want me to re-watch a 2-hour video from 3 years ago to answer that? I can't even remember my middle name, much less whether I'm actually quoting the video. lmk what you find.

[@user-bw9oz1kw8l]

you can become a full time streamer :)

[@benh580]

great match. you've got a new subscriber.

[@fburton8]

What an exciting match it was. Someone on the stream described it as an emotional rollercoaster. I'm inclined to agree! Lots of interesting chess too, of course. Fantastic event, can't wait for the rematch. :)

[@paweljankiewicz1383]

Simon could have won every game. He is such a brilliant attacker.

[@peristiloperis7789]

You did much better than the other guys against John in a match. He destroyed Niclas for example.

[@CarlosSilva-cx6oh]

Peristilo peris Christof is up on Blitz games they've dual commentated. The first one they did ages ago, Christof one, then the second one Christof drew the blitz portion and got demolished in the bullet.

[@tomsmith4452]

Jan gustaffson beat John pretty easily tho ...

[@leerobbo92]

Jan was a properly elite GM though once upon a time (still is really). His 2650 peak rating is 100 higher than Simon or Niclas have ever reached, he was practically a super GM. 100 points difference at that level is deceptively huge.

[@happy_labs]

Jan is a higher league of GM than pretty much any other chess youtuber

[@petergabriel9544]

leerobbo92 He was a very strong GM, still strong, but "super GM"? Not even close. The gap was HUGE. That peak rating was for a short period of time.

[@Juanxooo94]

i've watched all your rival matches (and John's too), but this was definitely the best stream ever! thank you, Simon.

[@ericg2920]

"I'm a rook down but i'm creating chaos !" "Can I go crazy? let's go crazy"

[@hypnoxounet]

Thank you so much for your videos, Simon, they're about more than chess, it is always a happy moment to share a bit of time with you, you're very human, kind, funny and have a great personality, please keep making these, they make me happy:)

[@browsedeweb8834]

Very entertaining! You should have played 1.e4 though as white. =)

[@PreservationEnthusiast]

He would get crushed by John B's Scandinavian though. I think JB should get drunk too in the rematch. For every game you win you must drink a triple spirits. For a loss a single spirits. If a draw, both players must chug a double. Ginger GM was knocking it back while JB was totally sober.

[@1985rostislav]

Simon! You had some really strong moments in this match, but you couldn't convert in the crucial moments. You're my favourite chess personality, but in a way I got angry with you, because I wanted you to win so badly and you basically flopped it like a mother flopper. I could see that mentally you gave up even before the last game has started. I hope you recover from this quickly. Damn man, you're a GM, you should be beating all these IMs!!!

[@roamanomariano]

Simon, thanks a lot for countless hours of entertainment! On comment though - could you please, pretty pretty please get rid of these notification sounds from your videos. Don't know if these are twitch or what - I mean the ones as in 49:39 "smuggs is now". These are kinda loud and super annoying - cheers and once again thank you!

[@cana123uruguay2]

I love the Madness ! I wish I could play like that

[@1222-b1y]

what. a. show. thx

[@bashirabdel-fattah9499]

John could have taken your Bishop at virtually any point around 1:29:13 and it would have been crushing, by the looks of it.

[@AlanTwoRings]

Close match, and so exciting! Well played Simon. Thanks.

[@SyncChrome]

Will Simon stream the world chess championship? That would be so awesome.

[@erikgrubbs4364]

You mention those dutch endgames which you believe in. I would love to see a video of you showing some of the ideas there

[@trymprestholm4903]

Great stuff! Put that in yuor pipe and smoke it!

[@dhruvjain4584]

couple of chances you missed. and the score could have been completely flipped.

[@leavethebasket7435]

John is an extremely strong IM. Practically Grandmaster level as far as I'm concerned

[@janchovlesky5630]

James Smith 2560 USCF, stronger than a lot of GM's here

[@PreservationEnthusiast]

Bartholomew is basically a GM, he just hasn't had the time and money to waste on chasing norms. I think he has 1 or 2 norms in spite of that. Many of these IMs FMs and WGMs are really not up to much, but John is top notch for an IM. He's already beaten 3 GM's in blitz matches.

[@Crueak]

1 already, but I think he might get the other two, he still competes in tournaments. However, his specialty is definitely speed matches, as demonstrated in his bullet tourneys. I think slowed down he struggles a little more with some of these GMs.

[@locrianphyrigian3779]

incredible insight

[@konopkokolorek3332]

i wouldnt use beating gms in blitz matches as a metric for being as good as gms. the long matches are way more hardcore in terms of required thinking power than blitz

[@Giocondissimo]

Nice show Simon! ggs #teamharry

[@StephenWhite55]

That first game was PURE Ginger! Smash, Bang, Wallop! You do us proud, Mr. Williams...

[@detectivejonesw]

was that a full fat coke by any chance, not sure he mentioned...?

[@obxwave]

Very interesting and entertaining...love to see you two play a longer time control...see you contrasting styles at their best.

[@DJJOHN92]

Definitely a match made in heaven you two. Super entertaining!

[@pw6titanium]

He ended up like Virginia Mary after she finally got one in

[@soinorman]

Only just finished........Do it again soon Simon.

[@relaxstation1871]

"Time for a bit of yoga" lmao Simon you are a funny fucka.

[@andreimacarie1564]

you are crazy Sinon, but I mean that in the most positive way possible! brilliant like the great Tal! He would be proud of your playing style! admire your videos, very instructive and entertaining!

[@RobbiePfunder]

2 of my favorite chess youtubers. Not even sure who to root for!! makes it a win-win I guess.

[@Fe2PlusIronFoot]

"booooom! that's how we do our shit round here!"

[@bjornlindqvist8305]

To bad you lost, but that duel was EPIC!

[@khoakhokhao4503]

game 1 is one of the most beautiful attack i have ever seen. Every single piece is attacking while your own king survived on his only available square. Well played sir !

[@christopherpavlicas]

Game 1 was a combination of Morphy and Tal. Holy Cow! What an attack! Truly Awesome!

[@jsmfof]

This was definitely the best chess rivals so far. You have to do another one with John, you can take him down next time.

[@dan2250]

Really enjoyed this, some great attacking chess and entertaining commentary Simon. Hope to see you and John play some more Rivals matches in the near future. Thanks for the video!

[@keshavptech]

Simon, John! Thank you and thank you very much for this stuff. Best chess content ever.

[@Inbal_Feuchtwanger]

Super excited for this match. Thanks for doing this for everyone!

[@MrAlexthecrazy]

I love your shit. More Kraken next time =D

[@Siderite]

Great show! Those first games were brilliant, but then you lost your steam somewhere. I think John put the fear in you :)

[@thursdaysunday7374]

Pipe that in your smoke and duck it, like flynn

[@BadHabitMarco]

Great match, I actually just finished watching a replay on twitch since I couldn't watch it live. Awesome entertainment and interesting chess - thanks a lot, Simon. Cheers!

[@raphaelhudson]

First game was magnificent

[@tharindanimnajith3525]

Simon & John! Thank you very much for this awesome match! It was a great match! Specially want to mention that first game by Simon was a treat!

[@DavidM_]

01:38:55 "It's not a blunder, it's a sacrifice" XDDD

[@kazitaufiqiqbal1194]

1:38:35 me every chess game

[@SaintD382]

Match starts at about 14:25.

[@kelvint5894]

epic match I was rooting for Harry, the rematch will be blockbuster.

[@jessefox580]

wicked awesome match!

[@CarlosSilva-cx6oh]

1:32:30 I KNEW you were gonna play the bird lol

[@CarlosSilva-cx6oh]

ii121 you can't guarantee a kings gambit. Playing against John you could almost guarantee a Scandi in fact.

[@lochvids108]

first game was sick

[@OddWhite]

It's a dream come true for me to watch you two battle it out in a duel commentary. Well done!

[@kj.wakeup2179]

I enjoyed this

[@blondiebush6100]

Simon would kill him if he wasn't drinking.

[@josephfienga9834]

Haha - I love Simon and I learn a ton about attacking and taking the initiative from his videos but perhaps he would do even better in these kinds of events if he didn't go through a bottle of JD throughout a 2 hour period. I saw one instructional video once where he was literally GUZZLING red wine for the entire hour segment. I mean, this guy can really put 'em away. Cheers, Simon!

[@CT-zd8jn]

25mins to 30mins is some of the funniest tv I've ever seen. Whodda thought from a chess vid! "creating chaos everywhere - complete chaos! Look at Eddie - he's a complete lunatic" - "oh.........well........ he's stopped that, good move"

[@michaelbauers8800]

Nice first game!

[@Triple070007]

So many good quotes: "That baby was a dead baby... which is never a nice thing." "Chaos theory: A butterfly flaps its wings, and I bloody kill."

[@KS622]

this was hilarious

[@mcpartridgeboy]

Great video Simon nice games, i think you were a bit unlucky not to do better, you really show your streanght ! nice work enjoyed it so much ! pitty i couldnt make it for the live game, if its any conselation i drew my game 1 central pawn and an exchange up because of time ! !

[@Ian-rq7lb]

Super late to this party, but just coming from John's video and wanted to say it was a really great set of matches, had a lot of fun watching it and really love your style of play. Gonna be checking out more of your stuff for sures! Hi from Australia (originally from Her Majesty's Kingdom ;) )

[@flukey111]

Terrific match - you played some scintillating stuff! You seemed to dictate the play and the score line feels a little harsh on you. Crazy as it is to say it (as you usually get into time trouble) - but I think you actually played a bit quickly at certain crucial points when you actually had time and missed a couple of wins. Not that I saw what to do at the time of course! That being sad, fair play to John - he's a definitely a tough nut to crack! Cannot wait for the rematch already.

[@guillaumecornu9919]

😂 I watch this video for the second time years after the first and I'm having an amazing time this is so much fun. You guys have to do a rematch it's seriously hilarious. Big love guys thanks for the content

[@BamThwok76]

Coulda gone either way. Just concentrate more instead of talking about the movie Snatch. Love watching you play. When you win a crazy game it's a beautiful thing.

[@dan9337]

BOOOOOOOOM

[@dan9337]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

[@IanMcGarrett]

In game 3, even after Black plays b5 and White followed with Qc6, Black's attack still crashes through with Be3+. Rf2 is obviously hopeless after Qxf2 and Nf4, while Kh2 is met with Bxh3 and if the White queen captures either the knight or rook, the bishop will interpose with a discovered check that mates and if instead the White bishop captures the Bishop on h3, Bf4 leads to mate in short order.

[@dhruvjain4584]

i think easily 4500-5000 people tuned in atleast once during either your or john's stream! easily the best chess rivals!

[@oceansilver]

Once you get back from the Euro Club Cup tournament, please do a video analysis of each of your games.

[@johntatum1951]

You had a three-way fork with your knight in game three...and you never said a word about it...???? Knight e3..

[@rayanballuz]

first

[@vtrudkov]

Hi, Simon! if you prefer weird position why don't you play e4 and some gambit? imho... anyway, thumb up!

[@PooriaHana]

Just a question, If Harry in an exchange moves to G file, He keeps his name or he becomes Garry? :)))

[@stefanholbek2449]

Absolutely wonderful match, great chess, full speed ahead: Luuv you two guys! I don't master the faster time controls, so it is instructive for me to see/hear how fast you figure out stuff. Thanx a lot!

[@pnarimani6055]

"I could win material, but no one has ever called me greedy in life." I love you :D

[@happy_labs]

This was a great match, very keen to see a rematch.

[@coosoorlog]

hey, how about having a jingle like that sound loudly in traditional chess tournaments as well every half a minute or something! everyone would love that!

[@Danumurti18]

The way Ginger GM play is just like me, only less blunder and more aware of tactics that's all, but that cost 1000 rating points. 😥

[@misteratoz]

I subscribe to both of you guys. I subscribe to John to learn chess. I subscribe to your channel to have a good time.

[@rittervsp]

Really good perfofmance! Hope you play positional chess someday - it is a hidden side of you chess nature )))

[@planahath1973]

Great match. Hats off to Mr Williams and Mr Bartholomew for providing entertainment like this.

[@Foggydew931]

The Dutch oven is my favourite opening. It's a breeze to learn and leads to an explosive game

[@adamstone5865]

Why do you hate trump? Jealous he is not your pres? Jk great video thanks for the excellent content I enjoyed your book on chessable on the London system

[@simon.jacobs.0709]

Simon @ 1:29:40 when you moved your Queen to E5 and said "what the f**k is that" ..... instead Rook to F5 is winning on the spot isn't it?