How do 1500s think differently than 2200s?

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@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Nelson, thank you SO much for the post-game analysis on my channel 😊. This is such a great format to see the perspective of both sides and I had a ton of fun collaborating with you on this! Cheers!
@chessamigo
@chessamigo 11 ай бұрын
@chesswithpatrick Awesome match!!! It’s been fun to watch your chess journey!
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Thank you @@chessamigo!!
@supremekhan9564
@supremekhan9564 11 ай бұрын
@@chesswithpatrick hi,a wired asmr dude
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
@@supremekhan9564lol. Yeah pretty weird
@clash4kurd96
@clash4kurd96 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, you two play pretty evenly until the clock starts ticking
@viktorkeray1467
@viktorkeray1467 11 ай бұрын
Amazing series, love it! As a suggestion, maybe play 30-minute games and shorten the video afterwards, just not to run out of time. The games are really interesting, and it is a bummer for your opponents to lose on time, considering that they are playing against you - a much stronger opponent.
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
This is a great series and Nelson is so awesome. Thanks for watching Viktor!
@netronixbg
@netronixbg 5 ай бұрын
I also have a similar rating around 1500 but you guys turned my view on this game upside down. I've never seen it this way on KZbin. Really very interesting not only because of the different rating that diverges by 700 points, but also how two different players reason. Keep this format going, it's very interesting. It would also be interesting if it could be done with someone who is 200-300 points above Nelson or at his level. Congratulations on a job perfectly done.
@msl758
@msl758 11 ай бұрын
One of the main differences i've noticed as a viewer between 1500 and 2200 is the educational value of the games. I've watched many of Patrick's games and he will not be able to explain the rationale behind a lot of his moves, nor anticipate the potential tactics the opponent may have (not meant to be a critisism, he is 500 higher rated than I am), whereas chessvibes forecasts what is going to happen, or explain very early on why somehting is a mistake.
@genovevagomez-lince103
@genovevagomez-lince103 9 ай бұрын
😊
@macornman
@macornman 11 ай бұрын
I love this series. One thing I learned is that it takes some skill to convey your thoughts loudly and clearly. The other player was talking to himself and mumbling at times. Definitely a skill i didnt appreciate
@Ersunn
@Ersunn 10 ай бұрын
This is one of the best chess video I have ever seen, thanks!!
@Mr.Coincidence
@Mr.Coincidence 11 ай бұрын
For all those curious. Patrick has a super chill chess channel too. Good times for chilling out to.
@Stumpchunkman226
@Stumpchunkman226 4 ай бұрын
Does he always speak in NPR voice?
@theamericanidiot0116
@theamericanidiot0116 11 ай бұрын
I’m really loving these videos, not only for the educational value, but also for just discovering new chess KZbinrs. It’s really interesting and great.
@myon_craft150
@myon_craft150 11 ай бұрын
loving this format!
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Agree. It provides such a great perspective to hear both players thoughts! 😊
@gmkatsu
@gmkatsu 11 ай бұрын
Thanks So much for doing a game and video with my good friend Pat! I have been an admin in his server for a while now and it is really good to see he is getting more recognition! :DDD
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Dude Katsu! Thank you! This was super fun.
@QDWhite
@QDWhite 11 ай бұрын
2:08 Bc4 isn't a mistake. It's a book move. After 4 Bc4 Nxe4, the line is 5 Nxe4 d5 (the fork they both saw), 6 Bd3 dxe4, 7 Bxe4... The exchange is equal, black ends up with a pawn and knight in the centre while white has a knight and bishop in the centre and can castle on the next move (if they want). Black has a couple options for move 7. If they bring their bishop out, they also can castle next.
@sanlikestea
@sanlikestea 11 ай бұрын
you know nothing about chess.
@QDWhite
@QDWhite 11 ай бұрын
@@sanlikestea wow okay. This is literally listed in Modern Chess Openings, but go ahead and feel however you want.
@sanlikestea
@sanlikestea 11 ай бұрын
@@QDWhite doesn't make it a good move bro
@QDWhite
@QDWhite 11 ай бұрын
@@sanlikestea doesn't make it a bad one either. It literally makes it a book move.
@Hertic50
@Hertic50 11 ай бұрын
it is at this level, cuz they don't usually know all the theory, you see, how Patrick got a bad position early
@Mik1604
@Mik1604 11 ай бұрын
This is such an excellent format. Love it.
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
I agree. Nelson is great at what he does!
@BananaDope
@BananaDope Ай бұрын
41:43 I found a crushing move for nelson, which at the end of it, black has to just let go of the queen for a rook. Rf1!!! If he takes your rook, it's mate! Can't take your queen cuz it's pinned. So he has I think only a few valid options. First, unlikely, but let go of the rook, and march down with the king. Very risky. Second, move the queen to either c8+ or g1. After c8+, probably Rf8, Rxg6+, hxg6,h7, but you're still fine you probably go underneath the pawn if you wanna be certain maybe you can even take it. If you do go h8, the position requires of him to take your rook on f8 and lose his queen, then take your other rook.
@KenyGrey
@KenyGrey 11 ай бұрын
love these videos, my favorite series do not stop these coming!!
@kwhd559
@kwhd559 11 ай бұрын
Why is the opponent whispering - Is he playing from a library or something? 🤫
@Unndecided
@Unndecided 11 ай бұрын
ASMR Channel
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
That’s just how I play chess I guess.
@milkmanjones6445
@milkmanjones6445 11 ай бұрын
Someone stop this man from whispering
@scottb32a
@scottb32a 8 ай бұрын
are you playing a serial killer ?
@sweaterkev
@sweaterkev 11 ай бұрын
Love this format great idea!
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
It was so much fun to collab with Nelson!
@davesharratt917
@davesharratt917 11 ай бұрын
Very excited to see CWP as your opponent as a long time follower of both.
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for tuning in Dave! Glad you liked it! Nelson is great!
@Stumpchunkman226
@Stumpchunkman226 4 ай бұрын
Never let another man fork your pieces.
@arikoudemans2166
@arikoudemans2166 11 ай бұрын
Super effective format. Respect for all the great ideas you come up with.
@timm439
@timm439 11 ай бұрын
Patrick has a day job as a golf commentator. Good game - great format, keep it up! :)
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
golfwithpatrick coming soon!
@HopeBloomMusic
@HopeBloomMusic 5 ай бұрын
Bob Ross Vibes - Happy Little Pieces
@tominmo8865
@tominmo8865 11 ай бұрын
This is a great format, above-average player vs big-brain guy. Please keep 'em coming.
@mayedalshamsi
@mayedalshamsi 11 ай бұрын
Why does he keep referring to you as they? 😂
@GizasRadigeris
@GizasRadigeris 11 ай бұрын
xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Didn’t know I was doing that lol! Probably a habit of commenting 300 days when being matched up against someone randomly without knowing their gender.
@mayedalshamsi
@mayedalshamsi 11 ай бұрын
@@chesswithpatrick - Haha! Makes sense! 😂 You played really well. I'm waiting to get some free time, so that I can see the analysis on your channel. Keep it up! 😁
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Thank you@@mayedalshamsi !! I really appreciate that :)
@ThortheMerciless
@ThortheMerciless 11 ай бұрын
Around 12:00 you don't consider Bf6 which stops the tactic by overprotecting e5. Is there any reason that you didn't even consider this? I'm thinking that it allows Qe7 and also to put the QB on a more active square than d7.
@kzkaa.
@kzkaa. 11 ай бұрын
Probably because the pawn isn't worth defending, and can be lost without much of a disadvantage. Idk I'm not Nelson.
@ThortheMerciless
@ThortheMerciless 11 ай бұрын
A pawn is a pawn is a pawn.
@elyecesejil3798
@elyecesejil3798 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting video thanks you !
@islambouzaher2182
@islambouzaher2182 11 ай бұрын
amazing idea nelson
@NarrativeCMBSports
@NarrativeCMBSports 11 ай бұрын
When will you post again on Chest Vibes??
@GaryFerrao
@GaryFerrao 11 ай бұрын
This is such a nice format.
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
I agree Gary ! This is such a great way to learn for a (former) 1500 rated player :)
@PaddyMacDaddy101
@PaddyMacDaddy101 6 ай бұрын
Why do you intuitively say "they" instead of he?
@ytplutoo
@ytplutoo 11 ай бұрын
great video ❤
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
It was really fun collaborating with Chess Vibes :)
@tebi8812
@tebi8812 11 ай бұрын
I love these series, +1 abo
@MaxChessman007
@MaxChessman007 11 ай бұрын
Good game, great format!
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Hi Max!! :) Thanks for tuning in. I agree this format was amazing.
@nopebuddy6827
@nopebuddy6827 11 ай бұрын
How should I contact you to play you in a game?
@Maxim.Teleguz
@Maxim.Teleguz 11 ай бұрын
The thumbnail from the show queens gambit
@frankhummel9529
@frankhummel9529 11 ай бұрын
Why does he refer to Nelson as they/them through the whole thing?
@Unndecided
@Unndecided 11 ай бұрын
I noticed in the previous instalment as well Perhaps Nelson is no longer a father maybe his title has changed to ejaculating parent
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Didn’t know I was doing that lol! Probably a habit of commenting 300 days when being matched up against someone randomly without knowing their gender.
@ernie898
@ernie898 11 ай бұрын
The new boys are better and stronger
@ernie898
@ernie898 11 ай бұрын
BOTS
@georgehavrincea9258
@georgehavrincea9258 11 ай бұрын
This guy sounds like Hannibal Lecter:)))
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
I played this game with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
@georgehavrincea9258
@georgehavrincea9258 11 ай бұрын
@@chesswithpatrick Legend:)
@robertedson2374
@robertedson2374 11 ай бұрын
Who is that??? Whispering Smith??
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
The Chess Whisperer
@WiscoWallace
@WiscoWallace 11 ай бұрын
What do you think in the 32:15 position, after white pawn takes and rook recaptures is queen g3 a good move? Input from anybody would be appreciated. I think my rating is around 1000.
@crabby-boiii
@crabby-boiii 11 ай бұрын
I'm stuck at 1250 elo any tips?
@Cl0udPvP
@Cl0udPvP 11 ай бұрын
Try to analyse what your mistakes were, remember what got you there in terms of the last few moves, and try not to get into that in the next game. Also, try and take a longer time to make moves in game, atleast 10 seconds; use a longer time scale like 10 min or 15 min too
@PickleCODM-hw6cj
@PickleCODM-hw6cj 11 ай бұрын
learn the poisoned pawn variation in the najdorf
@GrupoCiencias-xf2fs
@GrupoCiencias-xf2fs 11 ай бұрын
probably the worst advice you could give a low to intermediate player@@PickleCODM-hw6cj
@GlobalWarmingSkeptic
@GlobalWarmingSkeptic 11 ай бұрын
At that level you need to start memorizing openings and getting really good at a core set. Have an answer for multiple Sicilian openings, London, petrov, philidor, Caro, King's Indian, Spanish and Italian setups, and the other popular openings, and ensure you know the continuations, and against the sidelines just keep developing your instincts, tactics, and understanding of general positions. Get good at seeing mating threats. Of course getting to 1250 you probably got used to king safety and that has to get better too, or at least that's how my journey from 1000-1350 was. Biggest thing though will be getting out of the opening with really good winning chances. Another personal thing for me was learning to accept a draw when I have an uncertain position. If I can get out of a game I'm not comfortable with, I try to take it if I can force it or force opponent into a bad move to avoid the draw (which happens a lot tbh and I won a lot of games on that).
@Cl0udPvP
@Cl0udPvP 11 ай бұрын
Don’t focus all of your time on learning openings because it doesn’t matter how much opening knowledge you have, if you struggle with blunders and you blunder pretty much every game which I know you’ll do, you need to focus on improving them. Just play caro Kann for 1. E4 and king’s Indian defense for anything else as black. As for white, I recommend maybe trying the London system or queen’s gambit because you don’t need to study them for hours to know what to do, and then you’ll have more time to try and stop blunders. And don’t except draws when you have an uncomfortable position because you’ll never learn how to get out of them. You need to embrace the losses and mistakes you’ve made, and try to attempt to not make the mistake you made before. If you really want to play 1. E4 then just learn the Italian game because it’s aggressive, and for some reason everyone plays e5 as a response for e4 at your level.
@KingPanda-lp5ir
@KingPanda-lp5ir 11 ай бұрын
im 1800 any tips to improve???
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
No tips from me! :)
@NJDJ1986
@NJDJ1986 11 ай бұрын
@41:51 ooof why Patrick played that move? Qxf3 was a blunder! even his rook was hanging!
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Time management has been an issue with me since day 1 unfortunately. My brain isn’t as quick as chess vibes lol.
@BananaDope
@BananaDope Ай бұрын
Well, nelson also made a mistake by not playing the amazing move Rf1
@Lloyd__Christmas
@Lloyd__Christmas 10 ай бұрын
Someone tell buddy to stop whispering… also Nelson is a he not a they I’m pretty sure
@Joren68
@Joren68 11 ай бұрын
You should have someone higher rated than yourself on here
@Fishamanic
@Fishamanic 10 ай бұрын
Even i can beat Nelsi and im not even 400
@60403tnw
@60403tnw 11 ай бұрын
this is dope
@garynorberg2675
@garynorberg2675 8 ай бұрын
You need to learn proper English.
@Mamachola46
@Mamachola46 2 ай бұрын
This paaaaaaaewwnnnnnnnn! 😂
@Ozasuke
@Ozasuke 11 ай бұрын
I'm loving this series! I'm still sub-1000 and seeing the differences in play helps me understand some important points in defense such as the f5 pawn. I have a bad habit of trapping my own bishops. Thank you both!
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
that's a tough part to get right... getting the bishop outside the pawn chain and not getting it trapped!
@MelloRoadToMaster
@MelloRoadToMaster 11 ай бұрын
Now waiting for how a 1700 thinks vs a 2200. {If u want u can take me. Just reply 😅}
@Hertic50
@Hertic50 11 ай бұрын
It suprising how much gd players play chess, i'm one of them
@darkshadow5730
@darkshadow5730 11 ай бұрын
will say. good game play but poor sportsmanship to resign vs taking the loss.. takes the fun out of winning
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
My bad! I didn't realize it was bad sportsmanship. I'm still learning
@MrDanielfff777
@MrDanielfff777 11 ай бұрын
Fun vid
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Daniel!! :) Thanks for tuning in, this was a fun one for sure. I've got the post-game analysis on my channel too.
@davidzer6853
@davidzer6853 2 ай бұрын
your rival had a very very annoying tone, like whispering...
@fozcan5196
@fozcan5196 11 ай бұрын
Why this bro talks like he is in asmr video his voice is so annoying
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
lol sorry about that! Probably should get better at chess and a better voice.
@bysebastiaan3106
@bysebastiaan3106 11 ай бұрын
Getting Bob Ross vibes from @Chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
I didn’t make any mistakes this game. Just happy little accidents.
@bysebastiaan3106
@bysebastiaan3106 11 ай бұрын
hahahahaha @@chesswithpatrick
@plokenv
@plokenv 11 ай бұрын
Do it on me next plss
@kwhd559
@kwhd559 11 ай бұрын
....Rf7 should have been met with Qa6 targetting the weak Black a-pawn , and if ....Bc5 to defend, then b4 would have been interesting - You have to have vision on all sides of the board - When one player commits all his pieces to defend one side of the board, press him on the other side
@lookingforkluck8019
@lookingforkluck8019 11 ай бұрын
Sub only bcz of theese videos! Supernice!
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
This format is amazing!! :) Post-game analysis on my channel too.
@jantjedekoning4498
@jantjedekoning4498 11 ай бұрын
Dont want to be disrespectful, but damn Patrick has such an annoying (tone of) voice. I cant listen to him somehow.....
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
I should probably fix my voice
@mrbee8336
@mrbee8336 4 ай бұрын
Nah! It's ok bro he is just hating😊​@@chesswithpatrick
@userac-xpg
@userac-xpg 11 ай бұрын
Both players are taking way too much time before reaching the endgame. Should not be under 1 minute on the clock until after the queens and at least 1 rook are off the board
@chesswithpatrick
@chesswithpatrick 11 ай бұрын
Time management has never been my strength :)
@ThortheMerciless
@ThortheMerciless 11 ай бұрын
Perhaps you should consider how much extra time it takes to make a running commentary?
@gmraven
@gmraven 11 ай бұрын
@chessvibesofficial I've been subbed for a while here and am liking this style of content. Nelson, let me know if you wanna film a collab like this with me 😅
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