Chet Hardin "The Fall of NXIVM"

[@SD0224]

So grateful for individuals like Chet who continue to pursue ethical investigative journalism . They truly are the champions for the general public .

[@eg6081]

This remarkable journalistic outcome makes it clear that all of us need to support media outlets.

[@safeinmyheart1]

Great presentation. Thank you for all you have done to expose Keith Raniere!

[@slaws2279]

“...world’s smartest and most ethical man....” I’m glad the audience laughed.

[@miriamhavard7621]

👍🏼

[@miriamhavard7621]

People actually believed he was the world's smartest man. This part astounded me!!!!

[@8176morgan]

"...world's smartest and most ethical man is......Keith Raniere! Who else?

[@jackiejns983]

The HUBRIS of these people. Nancy got off easy

[@gregoryreese7686]

All of these groups just shows how so many people are lost and looking for something outside of themselves.

[@julieh.9826]

You could say that about anyone who is in organized religion.

[@jpp2377]

The thing is that I think it is normal to look outside, to question our purpose - this is why philosophy was created. I have not gone through what NXIVM taught but my feeling is nothing was new just new to the followers.

[@petalblossom96]

@@julieh.9826 You could say that about ANYONE. Whether its religion or something else, EVERYONE looks to some ideology or object outside of themselves to build a value system. Even atheists have a creed.

[@gregoryreese7686]

@@jpp2377 Anything that's meaningful or sustainable must come from inside of us.

[@gregoryreese7686]

@@julieh.9826 I was talking about what we call new age .where people find themselves acting and doing things that would be out of character.

[@mymasterdavid6880]

Well he got 120 years today. Good job.

[@gregoryreese7686]

That's a lot of volleyball games.

[@meee4217]

@@gregoryreese7686 👏

[@farqueue]

a year for every million that the Seagram's chick gave him

[@rebeccaranger1566]

Looks like Daniella learned one good thing. That Freedom is just another name for Nothing left to lose. And the little bird spoke to her soul.

[@edbrown8254]

I hope the feds also charge the Fernandez sisters' parents for what they did to their daughters, although I doubt that they will. I'm sure that mom and dad mentally justified the horrors they inflicted on their daughters and now blame it all on that charismatic dwarf, Keith.

[@LiamPorterFilms]

They were victims too.

[@annmarie2964]

They had responsibilities as parents

[@kimboslice9445]

@@annmarie2964 totally agree. No excuse for a parent. U don’t give your children up for fucking nothing. I’ll never agree with your statement. Weak ass parents.

[@mortalclown3812]

Bingo...but it would be nice to leave 'dwarf' out of it. Yeah, yeah... old trope, but a bestie is one and talks about how it's a legit description, but used as pejorative. Thanks.

[@59PianoMom]

The display of affection is known as “lovebombing,” a technique common to cults.

[@lileelisamc.4722]

and narcissists

[@d3l3tes00n]

Yep, abusive relationships.

[@safeinmyheart1]

Yes... narcissists love bomb you into a stupor. Great posts!

[@jayjaychadoy9226]

​@jf2176and lots of churches that are not cults.

[@majorkade]

US military

[@karagillis5739]

The upstate New York outfits on the audience members asking questions are amazing.

[@moonsauce_5159]

I can confirm we are ready to hike at any given moment

[@ArkoshKovash]

They were all bused in from Brooklyn. The ones who couldn't afford bus fare did a kind of a caravan thing up Route 9 on their fixie bicycles. No, really.

[@postscript5549]

I DO appreciate the work.

[@katykircher7413]

I am researching domestic or family violence. The abuser in these situations uses the exact same tactics as cult leaders.

[@ddandrews6472]

It's always men, right? You've been abused domestically as well?

[@miriamhavard7621]

Absolutely very similar to domestic abuse.

[@ehyeh365]

Narcissism

[@Jersey.D3vil201]

If you can understand domestic violence you can understand cult leaders and their followers; they're almost one in the same. It's the long con, the frog in the pot. The best defense is a strong sense of self, self-awareness and understanding your vulnerabilities.

[@turtleanton6539]

Ofc

[@EmilyKresl]

I'd like to say it's almost impossible to tell someone they're in a cult and to get out, what you can do tho is let them know you love them and want to be a part of their life and show them articles and videos of other survivors. It took me like 2 years to get out of Younique because I had to find out for myself it's a scam but I could only do it knowing I had other friends who cared for me and wanted me to be happy.

[@Profane283]

I agree if someone criticizes me or I take it that way I'm gun a go on a defensive. Just drop a little info once in awhile and hope for the best. I was caught up in rush talk radio until early 2000s. Republicans won Prez and house and senate. Nothing changed. That was when I began to be enlightened.

[@itsfunnybecauseitstrue3219]

Yeah… ALMOST half the country is in the Trump cult

[@Jersey.D3vil201]

Of course you wouldn't listen. It would mean you would have to question your reality; what you've come to know what is real. It's like knowing the sky is blue, but people are telling you it's purple. Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing. The best thing a person can do is to be aware of their vulnerabilities and protect them, because we all know how the saying goes, "That's how they getcha" .

[@lisajohnson521]

The podcast on this was one of the BEST I’ve listened to. And I listen to a lot of podcasts. It was riveting. I had my buddies listen to it so we can talk about it lol. They were as pinned to it as I was.

[@govindkrishnan6839]

Please link me

[@lisajohnson521]

@@govindkrishnan6839 Hi Govind. I listened to the podcast on Spotify, but it is called Uncover: Escaping NXIVM.

[@unita39hse]

Absolutely trouble is it’s pretty horrifying ! CBC podcast uncover ! Sentencing 27 October not long now ??? Unless it’s rearranged again ?

[@newgabe09]

Great point towards the end about the demise and danger of journalism in the world, the disappearance of local and investigative reporting.. Even more poignant a few years on.

[@sager7176]

There are so many things in life that will be hard for people to believe and understand until they have their own close experience with it. Ideally as people are on the planet longer with eyes open, they see more of what's out there and can recognize the signs.

[@zapkvr]

Rubbish

[@desleyroberts8674]

Really enjoyed this speech Chet did, Very interesting, I have been blown away by this particular story, Cults scare me , how people get involved, The questioning was fascinating , Chet should start his own magazine !,,

[@angelg.s.1053]

People have been trained to be fanatics of one thing or another: deities, sports, musicians, actors, CEOs, “geniuses”... The cult of personality is quite prevalent and people just love believing in the concept of a chosen one. Thank most of Hollywood movies for it.

[@miriamhavard7621]

Cults and fanaticism pre-date Hollywood. Everything isn't about Hollywood.

[@kyletitterton]

I think you make a valid point up until you mention Hollywood. Of the thousands of films Hollywood has made I can only really think of The Matrix series as lining up with The One theory. If anything, organised religion is the obvious forerunner/ precurser.

[@theresamcgallicher]

These are called pendulums in Transurfing Reality

[@Iknowurconfused]

​@@kyletittertonALL OF THE SEXUAL ASSAULTS AND DRUGS AND MORE DISGUSTING THINGS IN HOLLYWEIRD YOUR NUTS

[@joseangel637]

I would like to download the video and upload it with Spanish subtitles. The people of Mexico are interested in this, I request permission

[@quintuplebanned4267]

Go for it

[@joseangel637]

@@quintuplebanned4267 Thanks I really appreciate it, here is a woman who was a coach and who left nxivm and curiously they want to be governor of those who are from Monterrey Mexico hahaha

[@Frank1e.b0i]

Quien es?

[@rmcd823]

Mexican, learn English as the whole world does.

[@casualyoutubeenjoyer]

@@rmcd823 wtf

[@Pigletpronto]

This reporter was brilliant jn what he has done to expose this cult when it was utterly unknown or believed.His comment on journalism at 1.12 mins is sad, ney , absurd - he’s a struggling reporter financially. His skill and moral conviction is so powerful , New York Times or Washington post should be snapping him up . Shame on them.

[@frumpusnumpus]

On some level, I'm glad he was working independently because much like scientology, some of these cults have members who have a lot of pull in media. It would be much easier for them to kill the story if his paycheck was coming from supporters of the cult.

[@carolleenkelmann3829]

Tell me the difference between this and Scientology?

[@jeanieq6153]

Boats. Scientology has boats.

[@ep9421]

Tom Cruise in the closet

[@alysencameron361]

Only the names and age, otherwise a cult is a cult and they all behave exactly the same - you can call it abuse, or being assholes, or psychopathics, or bullying, or shaming, it's all the same behaviour and intent.

[@kristiblack4789]

@@jeanieq6153 Well with the Queen of Evil at the helm of the Church of England, that pretty much trumps one or two wee ships! Don't even get me started on the Pimp of a Pope and the kissing of the ring thing!

[@mimiroosli7651]

At the core nothing. Except Scientology has more money and bigger celebrities. I can’t wait until they go down.

[@pamelachiovarte-thiel4273]

I have questions that I haven’t heard anyone ask! Most people seem interested in the history of Keith Reniere...and I understand why. He’s this little nerdy awkward man who was surrounded by many attractive women, some of whom are quite wealthy. So there’s that, but... I want to know about Nancy Saltzman. What the heck is HER story? We know she was arrested and charged with Reniere. We know a lot of cash was located in her home. Ok, but she’s ultra creepy. What’s her deal? She has two daughters. One of whom isn’t really mentioned. The other, was...what?...given by her to Reniere as a teen?? There’s a story there and I definitely want to know. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@joedice2018]

Shrouded In nda paper trail

[@astoldbytheolyn4382]

We are still waiting on her sentencing. The pandemic has slowed down everything.

[@miriamhavard7621]

Agree!!!!

[@miriamhavard7621]

@@joedice2018 nda's are invalid, null and void when it comes to crime.

[@MommaO09]

She more than likely slept with him at some point. That's the only way he could get her to do everything she every did for him, including handing her daughter over to Keith.

[@texasray5237]

What happens with cults is that initially the leader is just a narcissistic conman playing with his ability to influence others. But as things develop and money and influence begin to flow in there has to be more discipline and the dogma takes on more importance. The guru (or whatever) is forced to stay "in character" all the time. What had earlier been just an act becomes the very core of his personality. He can't ever just be his normal self because others are always watching and if they see through the act the whole delusional bubble could burst very quickly. So it's inevitable. The leader will eventually start believing his own lies. And when he does he is even more deluded than his followers. That's about the point when the cult becomes so dysfunctional that people start to wake up and leave.

[@mariapilarme]

That’s torture! Poor Daniella Now Keith has the highest IQ of the prison system. I am glad is caught. What a narcissist. Please everyone learn what is a narcissist and what they do to protect yourself.

[@ChelseaGibsonTherapy]

Great storytelling and tone

[@DonnieDarko1]

1:26:35 there is waaay more of these people than we can imagine

[@Narcjus]

Thank you for believing Toni Natali.

[@AngelsVoiceASMR]

I was part of nxivm and met Esther and met Eva… everyone they mentioned I met…. I am happy to say I got away before anything super strange happened to me …. But I did witness behind the scenes stuff that made me not really like it.

[@SklLLLY]

What’d u witness?

[@DailyKhalee]

Did Chet and Toni ever come out with a podcast? Almost through with the book and only got it two days ago. Wow.

[@cg741graf5]

How about when Oprah talked about him and the group. Why did nothing come out from her or just like her dealings with Weinstein and Clinton’s is she immune from accountability?

[@TheLazyGeneTV]

Immune and complicit

[@carolmahoney2109]

You're comparing Oprah to Raniere? You're just another nut job.

[@miriamhavard7621]

Oprah appears to have had not to do with them.

[@horseheadkid]

no one in history has ever joined a cult. people join a self help group. people join a church or a religion. people find a belief system that seems to make sense of the world. people follow a guru. that's why it's so naive when people say "i'd never get sucked into a cult!" because no one does. no one has ever "joined a cult".

[@vector8310]

How more representative a democracy we would have if the labor of people such as Hardin were fully supported. I am glad that justice was done in the case of nxium. Yet I can't help but worry for our long-term prospects as a society.

[@victoriamorris3773]

I found this doco, so very very interesting. Good job 👍.

[@nicolewesley8175]

I just did some research on this. I did not realize how deep it went. I did not know Keith had been convicted of sexual exploitation of a child. I also did not know that Kristen Snyder disappeared. I didn't understand what he was convicted of and now I know.

[@IAmWithinEverything]

The Clinton's, Huma and her hubby, Anthony...the Seagram's sisters, the Bronfman funded a lot of it..this was another trafficking cult these people are involved in.

[@melaniedavis7638]

HBO has a documentary "The Vow". Crazy organization.

[@DarlingEbony]

@@IAmWithinEverything Your argument would have validity except for the FACT that NXIVM has a media arm called "The Knife", which had the sole purpose of protecting and promoting Trump.

[@ajordan1976]

Forgive my ignorance. Who is Kristen Snyder? Tyia

[@danyfields9075]

@@ajordan1976 she was a woman from Alaska who joined the class with her lesbian partner. Reniere did not support lesbians and must have forced this woman to have sex with him many times and this woman got pregnant. During the seminar she made such statements and they kicked her out the ESP and it’s alleged she committed suicide. Her body has never been found. She left a suicide note and writing experts stated it doesn’t look like her writing.

[@realalldway-raw4996]

Alison Mack was worth millions once she join this group she became broke. How is that successful?

[@truthsocialmedia]

Hippy women and women without children “don’t care” about money. Only once they realize their life is garbage and the people around them suck do they wake up. Usually by that time they have a few kids and need to look for a man who actually has money so she tries to get with him, so he can pay for her terrible/ retarded choices and illegitimate kids.

[@cheechalker8430]

Protecting the freedom of the press is important, however we also need to protect the free flow of information from the press. The decline in profit of journalism is in large part because of the behavior of the press itself. Lately, the press has been shameful acting as judge and jury, censoring and sometimes straight up lying. The question is - was that by design? Create a press that no one believes?

[@clarissa8477]

Yes, I agree. The media have nobody to blame for their fall but themselves. It’s sad because there are still some good journalists out there but so many, especially in the mainstream, have lost their damn minds. They’re activists.

[@miriamhavard7621]

It's because the media answers to their advertisers and to their owners.

[@komicsreviewer8505]

1:04:16 does anyone know the title of this newest Jonestown book he's talking about??

[@frumpusnumpus]

The idea that you could brainwash anyone enough to the point that they agree to get BRANDED like cattle is just beyond me. The human psyche is fascinating.

[@erpthompsonqueen9130]

Thank you.

[@ssoozee]

Love the pro-press woman! She’s right on all counts. 💖👍🏻💖👍🏻💖👍🏻💖

[@amandalynnsaucy6356]

Woman wearing the handkerchief has a good point. Because she is RIGHT. This cult is not shut down. The people above Keith (the REAL operators) walk among the general public. They are so powerful it is scary. They haven't even scratched the surface how much money is behind this....it still goes on ...

[@DonnieDarko1]

48:31 the connections never end 50:26 its happening in your own community

[@kylielogan8771]

So real journalist’s really, most people that have been abused are hiding because they’re scared and frightened. Your comment sucks for victims and survivors! Good job for allowing people to feel empowered to come forth!

[@diannedocherty3816]

1:00. If you want some facts and integrity in journalism in America…watch Jimmy Dore he is disturbed by this attack on real journalism ✌️❤️🌎💯💪💪💪

[@kyletitterton]

I like some of Jimmy's reporting - I just wish he wasn't so smug sometimes, makes it harder to watch than he should be.

[@merricat3025]

Jimmy Dore is a nut. He use to be good but increased popularity destroyed him. I think he is looking for $$$ i don't trust his judgment anymore. Honestly I think he's been bought off by people and he's very disingenuous

[@tanveechoudhary1838]

If there’s any other super interesting cult documentaries like the vow please let me know, I’m obsessed.

[@miriamhavard7621]

"Seduced" it's, well..........words fail me, but if you're obsessed, you'll appreciate it.

[@noreenhappel8531]

Weren't the Broffmans the airs to the Segrams Whiskey Co. fortune????

[@Treebard]

Yes.

[@redwoods7370]

"heirs"

[@gregoryreese7686]

Yes

[@sdidora5]

This is how he got himself the money to grow

[@sdidora5]

Meaning Epsteins Epsteins money . The entire situation is not okay. Obviously lol

[@johnmurray3911]

Was it really cold in the room where this program took place? All the men were wearing winter hats.

[@jayjaychadoy9226]

You think they are hiding?

[@Islandswamp]

Isn't nexium a medicine for stomach ailments?

[@zapkvr]

Ulcers yes

[@violettbijoux1219]

Why did they name it after heartburn medicine ?

[@zapkvr]

Very amusing

[@jayjaychadoy9226]

Since this was around the start of covid did that deter your podcast?

[@justinatheodora]

Weinstein, Epstein, Raneri, Trump

[@phillawrence6413]

You misspelled Clinton

[@rojava1619]

Hubbard * too

[@theresamcgallicher]

David Koresh, Jim Jones, Brigham Young, Charles Manson, lots of Christian pastors

[@skyDN1974]

Chet seems like a dude that you’d want to have a beer with. Great talk!

[@kevinoduor9841]

i actually thought they were talking about rick ross, the rapper, BOSSS, XD

[@ericsbuds]

midnight volleyball... hmm i lived in florida and thats something even ive never heard of...

[@stephenn8366]

This was excellent.

[@alysencameron361]

Raniere must have studied Imperal Rome to promote suicide as an honorable act to hide pretty sins.

[@alysencameron361]

*Imperial and *petty

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

Nazi cult bs - Raniere was actually super into Nazi crap (as in he believed many of his women were/are literally reincarnated major nazi figures like Heydrich). I strongly suspect that’s where the cultish suicide bs comes in as many Nazis, including Hitler himself, suicided in 1945 as they realized the end was coming. It was also a twisted way of showing “loyalty” to the Leader (see the Goebbels family).

[@alysencameron361]

@@4Mr.Crowley2 The Nazi had the same attitude and beliefs as the Romans, especially in the dynasty era, circa Julius to Nero.

[@DonnieDarko1]

1:07:52 still will go on

[@scottlaux6934]

God what monsters. Not just Ranierre, Saltzman, Mack, et.

[@aslmad1]

Wait a minute… her parents made her stay with Raniere

[@Johnbartheart]

I know, huh?...sad and crazy.

[@sofialambert2803]

I would like to understand how Nancy Salzman managed to have only 3/12 of prisión being so perverse and doing such a damage to thousands of people

[@sookymma]

Is the version depicted in the documentary different? Personally, I think she barely deserved that. We're talking about what seems like his first victim. She's mangled from this. It seems like the 3.5 years is primarily for her professional negligence and allowing this to happen. I mean, as a medical professional, she not only has to live with this being her life's work and her daughter was one of KR's most long-standing, abused victim. Imagine bringing your own daughters into this. Crazy. From what I can tell, there was an active approach to try and hide the criminal activities from Nancy.

[@DonnieDarko1]

57:26 gaslighting, the crazy letters, scum trail, the inner circle, lobbyists, etc..

[@TokyoShemp]

I was harassed, cybersmeared and sued for blogging on Brett Kimberlin.

[@sidneyprescott6504]

😲😳

[@lpslancelot05]

Do tell more?

[@TokyoShemp]

@@lpslancelot05 BradBlog and Larisa Alexandrovna of Raw Story were peddling hoaxes centered around election fraud. I became a "player" as a blogger by confronting their nonsense which included the claim Kimberlin was exonerated for the Speedway bombings. There was stuff called Weinergate and SWATgate. It was a cointelpro styled alternate reality game based off of manufactured hostilities between Daily Kos and Breitbart milieus. There was something called Project Vigilant starring Chet Uber. I'm talking Adrian Lamo territory and people he associated with. FBI informant Brandon Darby got involved. There might be weird stuff still going on, but I moved on since about 2013. It was big time meta back in the day. Barrett Brown was targeted by the same people. He seems to have been flipped into an informant.

[@lpslancelot05]

@@TokyoShemp crazy stuff.

[@TrulyMadlyShallowly]

Are you Patterico?

[@debbiewilliams3349]

Still don’t know what that is. Today is June 24, 2022 at 12:00PM, Eastern Standard Time ,USA.

[@TokyoShemp]

I coined the phrase demented medium loops. Both Tim Pool and Joe Rogan plugged Raniere's newspaper schtick called The Knife.

[@limitbreaker9085]

We hv u a try

[@skyDN1974]

Wait what? Newspaper? The knife? Where can I see this?

[@TokyoShemp]

@@skyDN1974 You never used a search engine before?

[@skyDN1974]

@@TokyoShemp no what’s that

[@skyDN1974]

@@TokyoShemp haha but for real that’s crazy

[@mortalclown3812]

I'm glad and amazed that women survived KV. He'll have to live a very long time to fulfill the length of his prison sentence. And I don't like what I wish for his experience while he's there.

[@marleneg7794]

Every form of refuge has its price.

[@zapkvr]

It doesn't at all

[@komicsreviewer8505]

1:22 Why didn't he complete the thought - "'In the wrong place at the wrong time."'

[@wandakowalski7063]

Beware of anyone who brags about their intelligence, wealth, virtue and showers you in love. But there is something in the human brain that is unable to withstand the lure of these con men or organizations, whether religious or otherwise, who profess life enhancement. When they start to ask for money, sex or require you leave your family - run away as fast as you can.

[@theresamcgallicher]

Those who really have it don't have to tell you they have it.

[@Core3.14]

The audience laughing at the titles made my day much better. I freaking hate Keith so much and I'm glad other people do so

[@ronsullivan7729]

Love this . These victimizer's tried to suppress the good in the world to bend it to twisted purposes . Awesome to watch them all squirm on the hook now . Anyone still following that guy are the biggest friggin idiots on the planet lmao . Hope " Vanguard " loves his new harem in prison . Sure they will really love him in jail , all 5 ft 8 of him . Hope he really enjoys showering , I know THEY will . Could not happen to a more deserving guy .

[@theinspector7882]

NXIVM? What does that acronym mean??

[@scottlaux6934]

Nothing, just Roman numerals that Raniere thought looked cool.

[@circleinfo]

1:20:35 Very interesting words, always thought these people where weak

[@csselement]

“Freedom” is for appearances only

[@ayeshadequeiroz4857]

Has the corruption and incompetence of the Northern District been used to force action yet? Are they waiting for this trial to be over?

[@unita39hse]

Interesting video

[@brian3174]

ITS SCARY HOW THESE PPL THINK THEY CAN MANIPULATE REPORTERS INTO STAYING SILENT CULTS AND SCIENTOLOGY ETC SHOULD BE BANNED AS I DONT SEE DIFF BETWEEN SCIENTOLOGY AND THE MAFIA ID SAY BOTH CRIMINAL ORGANISATIONS WHO GO TOO FAR WITH THREATS ETC AND A DANGER TO PUBLIC THEY PREY ON THE WEAK OR MENTALLY ILL AS WHO ELSE WOULD LET THERESELFS BE BRANDED AND PAY LARGE AMOUNTS CASH TO JOIN CULT UD NEED TO BE FEW SANDWICHES SHORT OF A PICNIC TO BEGIN LIKE MAFIA YOU CAN ONLY JOIN IF KILLED SOMEONE FOR FAMILY OR BIG EARNER THIS CULT WANTS THE CASH WONDER HOW MANY VULNERABLE PPL HAVE BEEN KILLED BY CULTS TO SILENCE OR KILLED SELFS AS PERSECUTED BY CULTS OR SCIENTOLOGISTS AS WHAT THEY DO TO EX MEMBERS IS TERRIBLE OUTSIDE PPLS HOUSES THROWING ABUSE MORNING NOON AND NIGHT TERRORISING AND POLICE DO NOTHING SLANDER IN PAPERS AS THEYVE MORE MONEY THAN YOU

[@cheechalker8430]

And the AG Schneiderman angle - he must have been a little nervous when he heard about “sex slaves” Must have been thinking ..... uh oh

[@johnmcclellan9020]

At least the con got justice. Now he's in prison and his con game in there will get him killed or worse.

[@andrewdevine3920]

His evil powers seem to work best on women. I am curious how he'd get on in an all male environment like jail. Not well, I'm hoping.

[@akbarlebowitz8151]

He'll probably start another cult that will make money in there.

[@persephone342]

@@akbarlebowitz8151 yeap. He’ll school dudes on how to get that woman in line and have her on her knees. See how easy that spin was! 😂 I mean, dudes are probably going to want to know how he conned all those rich bitches! 😂 I need to stop because I can see dudes trading commissary fr some tricks from a real master. The dude isn’t even remotely attractive or any type of physical specimen of a man like some of those dudes that workout all day in prison. Yeah, Keith Will probably do rather well with men. Especially dudes in prison. He’ll piss off some, but the ones down for the lessons will keep the others off of him. I really got to stop because I’m experiencing it play out in my head!

[@asheisadora]

Anyone get a weird vibe from the first questioner (scarf with stars)? A NXIVM plant in the audience?

[@kyletitterton]

Nananananananana Leader!

[@QueenMabx]

Batman! I mean, Leader!

[@TokyoShemp]

The public only learns of stories to the extent they can be modified, i.e. sanitised, and then simulated by the Military-Industrial Complex and other Five Eye members for domestic surveillance purposes.

[@Trac3r]

Nic moc

[@johnmurray3911]

Chet looks like Matthew Rhys.

[@Davidka1978Xoroshiy]

Poor girl. Glad she made it.

[@register1430]

This is Jeff Epstein redux.

[@DonnieDarko1]

1:15:55 *** *

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

You would think this is a fractured fairy tale. What's really scary is it's true.

[@DonnieDarko1]

Omfg 1:04:34 time gives you the ability to gather all the pieces

[@anyamcallister5215]

Any other ex mormons out there feeling this weird wokeness of LDS and cult

[@theresamcgallicher]

The Mormon church is a cult. Kudos to you for getting out.

[@miriamhavard7621]

40:30 40:35 THIS!!!!!

[@nancychandler367]

This Cult was so dangerous. So sad people have no inner identity that they follow cults. Very much like the Trumpism cult we see now.

[@ehyeh365]

Not true. Cults like this one and similar attract intelligent sensitive individuals in search or meaning and truth also. I recommend checking out HG Tudors channel on narcissism and his analysis of KR and the cult around him through that lense. Super helpful!

[@DonnieDarko1]

54:07 law enforcement * 56:10

[@usernotfound904]

I dont get the Hitler joke

[@artyomsevchenko6089]

I think it was some kind of veiled threat? A confusing one if it is

[@theresamcgallicher]

It's funny because it's so ridiculous. Hitler says "no more Mr. Nice Guy" -- as if he were ever nice! I laughed out loud.....

[@Atlantisheals]

Why does this sound like Scientology knock off???

[@d3l3tes00n]

Poor man's scientology lol

[@Atlantisheals]

@@d3l3tes00n GOOD ONE😆😁

[@theresamcgallicher]

All cults use the same process.

[@DonnieDarko1]

55:08 "human potential organization"...

[@joedice2018]

They're also refered to as Lgat or large group awareness training

[@miriamhavard7621]

😐😑

[@bluest1524]

They pay him 24k a year to do all this? That's atrocious.

[@ashbash635]

I cannot for the life of me figure out why he had so many people under his spell. They were all smart, beautiful, talented etc yet they were all agog at the sight of him. He’s so gross and down right repugnant to me and I don’t understand why anyone wasted a moment of their time on him.

[@sookymma]

Pretty sure that is the general consensus from people on the outside looking in. It's just so unbelievable. But when you take people in need and feed them exactly what they want to hear and build that trust, anything is possible

[@CaliforniaGirl-qk5kq]

It was good while it lasted.

[@986manav]

Just hearing about it now

[@a.jlondon9039]

Nothing stopped many of the members from doing a simple Internet search.

[@xythrial]

They knew what those articles said very well. They were told they were lies.

[@edb8563]

Labeling a “sex cult” is such a small minded title. Or a cult in general. Just falling for sensationalism and typical lack of nuance. Maybe 10 women were victims to this ego maniac. But thousands improved their lives without any remote involvement in the atrocities. You alienate rational people when you sensationalize for simple minded people.

[@glasshalffull8471]

I would refute the claim 'they acted normally' that night at the Sports Barn, Playing volleyball from midnight through to the early hours of the morning on a thursday is far from normal, you would think anyone overseeing a cult would have researched cults and conclude they never end well, apart from Scientology they all inevitably implode, I can't imagine controlling as much wealth as possible ethically would be much fun, sounds like a waste of money to me, not that he was ethical anyhow, still it's a novel idea.