Bob's Homelite XL Automatic Oiler Repair

[@rossrossier935]

Thanx Leon Have 2 of these in the garage,haven't used for a couple of years. Plan on using at least one this spring. Now I now what to look for to getting them running again.

[@jimallen6252]

Have an XL that hasn’t run more in more than 30 yrs. Was in pieces and was having a time hooking the carburetor rod. Your video was a big help.

[@nheng6913]

Just got a new Stihl but wanted to clean up and keep the XL (very low mileage) for "dirty" wood. Video is great and I can now tackle the lack of oil, at least the first phase. Your mention of the cap gasket to keep air pressure is helpful.

[@flyinbrianz22]

Great video. I have 2 of these old saws with the metal bodies. Thanks to you, I have revived them. Thanks for the help!

[@jbbolts]

Ive got an xl with a metal body as well i bought running used last year... it was bogging just cleaned it all up just gonna pop off the clutch sprocket today grease up the needle valve and check it out at the same time... the top cover of the handle isnt holding at the front is it normally just clipped in there? it seems to be cracked... im probably gonna get it secured with a couple self drilling screws

[@lonnieblackwell5107]

Thank you so much. Wonderful little saws for lopping off limbs with one hand. I have about 3 I need to get going again. Never understood the oiler before.

[@treebender261]

Thanks for helping us keep this old iron going I have a 150 I am going to take a look at soon and this video gave me some help on taking it apart.

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

The 150 is unique, but once you know how it comes apart, it isn't too bad. I'd recommend taking a look at the service manual I have posted on my website: www.leonschainsawpartsandrepair.com/uploads/3/9/7/9/39792537/homelite_chainsaw_service_shop_manual_5th_edition__pages_1-96_.pdf

[@wesleydavidson4678]

Tom Bennett I learn something on every one of Leon’s video’s.

[@11bayrat]

Is this link still working?or has it been removed?just pick up a super 2 and loving the chainsaw in each hand ! Thanks for sharing

[@bonzaibarty]

Very good video showing very important ways of engine removal, oil pump assembly and the fact that the oil lube system is pressurized!!! Thank you very much!!

[@VanishedPNW]

This is awesome. I recently picked up one of these at a second hand hardware/home store for $20.00. It was cased in the classic 30+ years-aged, blackish sludge of burnt oil soot, spilled or leaked old and uncycled oil, chain oil, and of course, slowly decomposing sawdust, extra fine, last logs cut were probably rotten as hell back in 1990. This classic brew creates a type of unbelievably adhesive, sludge-hell. The saw was saturated in this shit's spatter and backsplash, as if the previous goofball was seeing triple as he gave hell to any decaying, 100-year old stump & two-inch thick baby cottonwood within a 50 mile radius. Hilariously, they appear to have got the best of him in the end, as the saw is basically new under that nasty goo. My forensic analysis of how the saw came to be brand new with a full chain and and a heart and lungs full of nasty sludge: John the accountant, in finally getting after the chore list his overbearing, realtor wife drew up for him, probably dropped the saw a few times in the mud, dried it off with the oil, sawdust, and fuel covered dish rag he used in his previous, futile attempt to wipe away the three-fourths bottle of 90 weight chain oil he spilled all over the fuckin thing after his first ever attempt at cutting anything. After getting the saw covered in oil, dirt, and mold particulate stump dust, he kept rocking, killing, and restarting the poor little bastard until it was finally flooded, exhausted and TKO'd, at which point John the accountant from Los Angeles, new to Oregon, set the saw down on its side, in the mound of fine-grained stump dust, took off his two-inch thick gloves after shaking them out over the snoozing, sideways-laying Homelite, walked up the steps of his six-bedroom "rustic" Victorian while calling out, "that wasn't so bad honey, I cut down so many logs that I wore the chain-saw out."

[@jnicksnewstart]

"Daddy. You need to help us." You have no idea how much I miss hearing that. The years pass by very fast.

[@lesfogerson1092]

I saw a video where a guy used his wife's Cricut cutter to make perfect gaskets for a small engine. With as many saws as you work on this may be a good solution for those hard to find gaskets. Plus once you make a pattern all you have to do is hit cut anytime you need another one. Thanks for your good videos.

[@kenweinacht7099]

Great stuff, I learn so much. It doesn't even need to be a saw I own or am familiar with,the info is super.

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

Thank you!

[@codychickadee5095]

Thanks Leon. I learn a lot from your videos. There is another fella I just watched a video on and he seemed to have ability but lacked knowledge. He had the whole saw together before realizing the sprocket was so damaged the chain wouldn't turn. Thanks again! I love these little saws and I plan on collecting them.

[@mitchz.6234]

Just found your channel....i have same saw with same oil problem. will check that gasket on mine. Thanks for working on our old XLs, I'am hoping that will be my fix!!

[@kelvinsparks4651]

Another great and informative video thank you. My father inlaw gave me his old xl years ago and its always been a problematic little #¥#$@¥* but you've given me the inspiration to dig it out and have another go at it.

[@rvpadman]

Great video. Trying to see if you you knew how to remove replace the sprocket/Clutch replacement on this unit. How can the nut on the top of the sprocket be taken out? It seems to have some 4 slots on the top of the nut.

[@robertrazminas5629]

Leon Thanks for being on here! Going to check this XL that has been down my basement for 20 years now,,, and did some cutting today and realized that the oiler is not pumping! Will tear it down tomorrow ,,,,, to check things out! Thanks for your help so far!

[@mrj7872]

My XL pumps all the bar oil into the crankcase it’s the diafram setup.any advice would be greatly appreciated

[@cseanny]

“less spastic” 😂 Another great video, love watching them, thanks.

[@Mcseverythingoutdoors]

Leon, why does my XL dump oil from the oiler hole like a faucet? It makes a huge mess when I use it. The parts diagram has a small restrictor that fits before the oil pickup but says it’s for pressure systems only. I have the same saw you have there.

[@micko1404]

beautiful little saw. I'm in the process of giving my '82 model a quick clean and a carb rebuild. I'm tempted to try it with a 16" bar but it'll probably struggle. Is it a good idea to helicoil some of the stripped threads I have on my saw?

[@newdemolitionranch3870]

I have 12 of those on the shelf at my chainsaw shop used to restore them as a hobby

[@johnwagner8465]

I looked at mine and tried to find a new carb. Bit no luck...my oil line goes to the carb...do you have a place could get a rebuild or new ...thanks for the help

[@D21403]

That sounds like a Zama carb Mine runs great oiler goes to carb.

[@clayc5532]

i stripped a bar stud on mine, recon its 1/4'' fine, would you recon a standard bold would work ? tried searching part numbers on the web but never having any luck , Cheers !

[@CiscoKid-vf4qj]

Great vid Bob I have watched it twice. Just wishing I could see how the duckbill is set up in the tank. Don’t have manuals that show it. Mine has a brass fitting I found in the bottom of the tank but I suspect it needs a duckbill valve but don’t know which one to buy and if it’s connected to that brass fitting I found. Also I have a hole at the top of the gas tank and couldn’t tell from your vid if something goes in that hole like a vent or a duckbill valve.

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

The top hole is where the pulse hose goes through...then you insert the brass tube into the end of the hose and attach the duckbill to that, leaving about 3/32" of tube uncovered.

[@brooksbouye4245]

Where can I order parts for older XL model? Need duckbill valve and new oil and fuel hose

[@koryleonmessi]

What gasoline to oil ration Is???

[@davidschwartz5127]

Bob, my inherited Homelite XL seems to burning along with the fuel, and only quits smoking like crazy after the bar oil tank is empty?

[@mikelewis5152]

what size hose should i buy? love your videos

[@D21403]

Good video, mine has an adjustable oil knob and fuel primer. Zama carb. Do you know this one’s years???

[@jjt1093]

I just picked one up at a swap meet, Well anyway idles for a second or 2 no throttle input and stalls out, looks like fuel coming out of the exhaust, any thoughts and where to start ?

[@jct300m]

Great Video!! Do you have any Info on a Homelite 240 Oiler system??

[@JamesDavis-cw6rg]

Can you help me get an intake gasket set for a homelite super2 with metal kill switch?

[@johnwagner8465]

Thanks for the video...I have 2 older xl's...is it the same?thanks

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

Leon - Question: Is the bar oil pump mechanical or pulse activated? My tips for this engine install: I found that wedging a block of wood maybe 3/4 to 1 inch thick inside the case on the bar side of the engine and then rotating the case over on that side onto the workbench allows me to fiddle with the throttle rod much easier because the engine can't slide further into the case on its own (making it difficult to access the throttle rod). I found that inserting the throttle rod into the bottom/carburetor end first and then using needle nose pliers to hold the top end of the straight section of rod works well for inserting the top end of the rod into the trigger assembly. If you line the tip of the rod at the hole in the trigger plate and use that tip to push the trigger backwards it allows the correct angle to push the tip right into the trigger plate. I also screw the bar adjuster all the way to the rear before removing the engine the first time. That helps that screw head to clear when installing the engine back in. Also, I make sure to route the spark plug wire down under the bottom back end of the head so it has room to slide back and forth. That way once the engine is in place I can pull the wire back a little so you there's enough room to install the switch wire connector without pliers.

[@Victorstorm1212]

Hey do you know what the model number is for the carburetor and what cc it is

[@peterlarner190]

I have one very similar, but mine has the oil pump removed and no screws for one to be replaced, XL with a A at the end of the serial number

[@vermbird8393]

i have his exact homelite saw. sitting for 20 yrs. spark plug is new. replaced the coil (the new one only has 1 wire on it and is grounded to the motor/case. no spark though. what should i do. ? i am in san diego.

[@josemorales764]

Hey Leon. The orange/red plug on top of gas tank.. 1/8 of an inch in diameter.what is that for.. I’m missing it on my chainsaw..should I plug it or what

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

That's the fuel tank vent...you don't want to plug it. I have new ones in stock: www.leonschainsawpartsandrepair.com/store/p6432/NOS_Homelite_35SL%2C_150%2C_190%2C_350%2C_360%2C_C-72%2C_Super_XL%2C_XL-12%2C_XL-400%2C_Super_2%2C_XL%2C_XL-2%2C_VI_Super_2%2C_VI_Super_2_SL_Chainsaw_Duckbill_Valve_69451.html

[@joeyporto2461]

Anyone know if rebuild kits are out there?

[@brotharuss]

In regards to the sprocket nutt on this xl: During reassembly - how tight should the nutt be tightened? Is there a torque spec? Thanks

[@erinnewby]

I did this disassembly and reinstall job prior to seeing your excellent video. I was thinking I was missing some kind of foam air filter retainer, but since you didn't point it out, maybe mine is complete?

[@Patrick-Villa]

Great videos on these old homelite chainsaws. I have a 200 classic that I need to repair the automatic oiler on your videos help me understand. Also I'm just wondering what's your fuel mixture that you use on these old homelites.

[@wichywoo]

hi Leon i hope you may be able to assist? i'm working on an old blue and white xl 12 here in the u.k and i'm hoping to change the clutch side crank shaft oil seal? i have managed to get the clutch and 3 oil pump screws out but the pump wont come off. do i need to use a puller to pull it off as at the moment the worm drive appears to be stopping it coming off , the worm drive appears to be either part of the crankshaft or pressed onto the crankshaft? regards W

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

The worm gear is designed to slide on an off easily,so I'm not sure why it's fighting you. It's possible the clutch bearing race has damaged the crankshaft...I'd work alternating sides of the pump with a flat-blade screwdriver and see if it comes loose.

[@wichywoo]

@@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair thank for replying buddy. i did manage to get it off with a puller , i think it was stuck with age as it hadn't been used in decades. are these common seals in these or specific to homelite? i ask as i live in the u.k and i'm not sure if the owner of the saw would want to spend money on usa duties postage etc? thanks again wichywoo

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

@@wichywoo see if you locate a Dichtomatik 0609318TC in the UK. That is the best interchange seal still in production.

[@wichywoo]

@@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair thanks for the reply Leon. that didn't show up anything here in the u.k but i have just managed to get a 16x24x4 r23 £1.70 gbp. and it appears to fit o.k and i'm confident it will seal that side no problems, it just slipped on with a bit of old aluminium drinks can greased up. i will crank it up this afternoon if i have time? but it may need the other side replacing as well , which i'd have done if it were my saw.

[@wichywoo]

@@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair video link of its 1st run with the metric seals in both sides, i did fit a new fuel line , carb kit, and an electronic ignition conversion. its doesn't' sound to bad considering it hasn't been used in decades. i think a good days graft and fine tune will have her running as sweet as a nut ;o) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKPYmWeLid6Vo6s

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks for this Leon.

[@jasonfife2751]

I enjoy these longer videos. Keep up the great work!

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

Thanks!

[@DUBBER3atVINCE]

Hey Leon great videos keep them going but question 4u I had found a whole XL2 automatic with 2 triggers at a local scrap yard the whole saw was intact as I was about to leave I seen another one in another pile but long story short I put together one out of the 2 but I got a rebuild kit from amazon dont really like how it all fit, any chance u have have the oem part # or maybe have a kit i can buy plus I think I need that oil pump diaphragm it's pretty dried up mot very flexible n maybe a few duck bills thanx in advance keep up the awsome videos 👍

[@DUBBER3atVINCE]

Oh yea the saw actually runs but leaking oil into the motor and out the exhaust

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

@@DUBBER3atVINCE What carb do you have on the saw? Homelite used a Tillotson HK or Walbro HDC on the XL-2. If you have the HDC, you can just pick up a k10-HDC from Ebay and be set. I have 69451 duckbill valves for sale on the website. If oil is getting into the cylinder, either the oil pulse hose duckbill is gone or the oil hoses are hooked up backwards. The oiler diaphragm is hard to come by these days. I've had several guys tell me that ATF will soften them up.

[@DUBBER3atVINCE]

Thanx alot I'll check the hoses n see if they are backwards or not if not I'll order up some duck bills and thanx again keep the videos coming

[@TheSteveo6324]

I recently purchased one of these saws and it seems to be way over oiling. Is that normal for these saws? It just slings oil everywhere.

[@jbbolts]

From what I see it seems like the oil line is pressurizing the oil tank... if you're missing the little check valve it seems that would cause excessive pressure and oiling

[@kariverson1]

Hi! Thank you very much for this video. I have a homelite like this across the pond in Greece, and it stopped moving oil to the bar. I took it apart and all, even the part with the gasket you showed and there was oil in that one. Should that be the case? What happens if you fill the oil too much and goes above the duckbill valve? i did clean the part with the gasket I mentioned but it still wouldn't pump oil. I am going to try to replace all the lines soon but I'm still not sure how to fix it since I don't fully understand how the system works. Your video helped me a lot though!

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

I assume the oil line with the duckbill check valve is the return line. It shouldn't matter if you fill above that, although that's right at the very top of the tank anyway. I found that the valve is fairly loose on the metal connector so I'm going to be careful not to go that deep into the tank with the bar oil container while filling. Don't want to have to empty the tank and try to fish around in there for that tiny part. I did buy new duckbill valves but they fit too tightly, as though their inside dimension is just a touch too small.

[@kariverson1]

@@Rein_Ciarfella Yeah I guess it pushes air in the oil tank to create pressure and push oil to the chain. And duckbill valve prevents the air to go back and keeps it in the oil tank. I replaced all the lines and installed a new duckbill valve. (It turns out the old one was missing after all) Seems to be working now but I have yet to fully test it. The duckbill valve I bought was also too small, had to put a smaller tube inside that line so I can put the valve over that.

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

Phil That was a good idea! I think the metal connector is so you can pull the line up tight inside and not pull it all the way out, just like the plastic barbs I’ve found in numerous chainsaw fuel tanks.

[@jbbolts]

Hi thanks for posting this im just about to get the engine out of the case on an XL with a metal body...is this one indeed plastic? you really cleared up how it comes out of the case im hoping its the same for the metal body thnx!

[@DUBBER3atVINCE]

Hey Leon awsome videos but hey , what's the #s on the oul pump diaphragm I just cant seem to figure that out ?? Thanx in advanced

[@CiscoKid-vf4qj]

Hey Bob thanks for responding to my question. Can’t use the same kinda duckbill valve to stick in that hole on top of the gas tank?

[@unionoutdoorsman3837]

Thank you so much! Thanks to you my papaws chainsaw will see another day! I’m sure he’d be very thankful for you himself!

[@abdiesversato4374]

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[@r1smokeshowing]

I have a question for you Leon. I have a Homelite UT-10734-AR that is not getting oil to the bar. It uses pressure pulses from the carburetor to pressurize the oil tank. I have replaced the duckbill, but still not getting any oil. I removed the line from the carb, and shot some air into the line, and oil does then flow from the fitting. I’m thinking I’m not getting any pressure from the carb. Does this sound to you like the carburetor would be the culprit?

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

There's really nothing to go wrong in the carburetor. You've eliminated the oil flow valve and blockage by your test, so that is good. But I'm confused as to your hose hookup...the line from the carburetor should go into the oil tank and have the duckbill valve. The line with the filter should come out of the tank and route to the oil selector valve and then there should be a line from the oil selector valve to the bar pad. I'd verify the routing and give it another shot. Hope this helps and feel free to contact me by email if you have further questions: [e-mail]

[@r1smokeshowing]

Leon's Chainsaw Parts & Repair , thank you for the reply. All hoses, and routing are original. I have not altered anything. Routing is as you describe, however there is no selector valve. Line comes from tank to fitting on the bar pad. Only other piece is some sort of T in the tank. Hose goes into this T which has the duckbill on one end, and maybe some sort of valve on the other.

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

@@r1smokeshowing the fitting in the tank is a special one that is supposed to allow pressure to slowly bleed off once the saw is not running, so that you don't get a puddle of oil under it. Does the oil cap have a good gasket? If the cap is warped or does not seal to the tank well, that will also stop the oiler from working. I've never seen this happen, but I suppose the carburetor port could be plugged with something. It should be wide open to receive a crankcase pulse. It's a bit difficult to see, but you can check the duckbill with the saw running...drizzle a bit of oil over the valve and carefully rev the saw up with the oil cap off. You'll see the valve open and the oil that you drizzled should spit off of it. This might help narrow down where the problem is.

[@r1smokeshowing]

Leon's Chainsaw Parts & Repair Ty, for your replies, I’m going to give it another go later.

[@INFINITEMODIFICATIONS]

Hey Leon the vids have been a great help I have an XL that is identical to this one. I curious where I can find a cylinder gasket? Any help is appreciated.

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

These did not use a cylinder gasket...a thin layer of RTV silicone on both halves is it!

[@tomjoad8272]

I recently just picked up this exact type of saw from a neighbor. Are they particularly good? How do they compare to a stihl or an echo?

[@christianaspo7533]

hi. always inspiering videos. you should make a full restore on xl800am..😄

[@CiscoKid-vf4qj]

Hey Bob I just looked at my saw and there is no assembly like the one you are working on and no screw holes if there was one did some of these just have a hole there it doesn’t look like anything was there just a hole.

[@fergusonto-2032]

Hi Leon , how can I get your contact info ? I have an XL like this one , the oiler won’t work , I’ll try to repair it myself but if I can’t I may need to send it to you , Thankyou for all your videos , they are very informative & helpful

[@dennisharrison4744]

I worked on bunch of these back in the mid 80s i was around 15 i started fooling with saws

[@josemorales764]

Hey Leon.do u have a link or part number to the part that looks like a star.. where the chain right in front of the part you replace .. and also why will the fuel tank has a two hole..?

[@fergusonto-2032]

Hi Leon , I just watched your Homelite xl chain Oiler video & my xl doesn’t have a diaphragm or a place for one , is mine a different setup maybe ? There is a hose coming out of oil tank to a small hole at chain but my chain is not getting oiled , there’s 2 numbers on my saw , ut no. 105074 & serial no. 790170073 , any advice would be much appreciated , Thankyou & May God Bless

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

Your saw is the crankcase pressure model...there should also be a hose that comes from the crankcase into the top of the tank with a duckbill valve. This is your pressure line. Without the duckbill valve, it won't work.

[@johnclarke6647]

How can you say reasonable and eBay in the same breath? Some sellers just plain gouge any buyers. I can usually buy parts for my Stihl saws cheaper from my local Stihl dealer than off of EBay.

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

Well everyone has their own experiences... But when's the last time you went down to a Homelite dealer and bought parts? They don't exist anymore, so anyone interested classic saws like a Homelite or McCulloch is kind of stuck with what's available.

[@newdemolitionranch3870]

I even have a Lombard bulldog

[@wesleydavidson4678]

Leon eats eggs by the box.

[@LeonsChainsawPartsAndRepair]

Haha!!! I was waiting for that one!

[@olderolderman4603]

R.T.B.S

[@donnapentilla5556]

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