Chevy LS3 vs BMW 330d M57 Defender DRAG RACE who will win? || Mahker Spotlight

[@leonsletterbox2013]

Who needs a g wagon when a land rovers got a m57 or ls3 , you've made me think and opened my mind , nice work , thanks

[@Vince_Paul]

M57, ls3, om606 but all of them have automatic gearboxes or manual gearboxes. This would make it more even. But it would be good to see the zero to 60 and 1/4 mile times. Wonder if we could have them going around a muddy race track, with a couple of jumps? Still a very interesting video tho. Them two would shock a lot of modern boy races.

[@Mrtallguy76]

Impressive how quick off the mark the LS is, wonder what the M57 would be like if it was an auto… 👌🏼

[@wearemahker]

Would be very interesting indeed

[@wearemahker]

Hey Dave here three years ago we built Project Miami that pulled a 6 second flat 0.60 with a 6 speed auto

[@edwardmeakes1284]

I await a om606 showdown with great anticipation

[@typhoon3s943]

This is what we wanted to see!

[@lefthandedscrewdriver3954]

Who cares which one won; they are both fantastic vehicles! Keep the videos coming💪

[@IbrahimIsmail-jb6rc]

Please share video clutch release bearing replacement 2.4 TDCI thanks

[@truthteller99999]

Jump starters win. When no-one calls them out on it!

[@colinhankers917]

Whow what cars these are love the m57 if auto keep up the great work Dave love this

[@colinhankers917]

Dave do you supply the car would love old 110 with the m57 ect auto of course rough price please

[@wearemahker]

@@colinhankers917 we sure can supply it id suggest you come and see me

[@alexhogben]

Good stuff lads!

[@wearemahker]

Thanks!

[@ZoZa-e9w]

is it possible to change only the gearbox to an automatic gearbox of the M57?

[@eliotmansfield]

i’m running a twin turbo iron small block chevy(10psi) in a dakar 4x4 running 35” MT. Draggy; 0-60 is 5.68 and 1/4 is 13.9s

[@ashleym4887]

Sorry to say Dave, but having paused the start on each run, you jumped the start on all 3. Not good mate. 👎🏻🤣 Great vid though. If both were either manual or auto (with fair starts), I think the BMW would have it.

[@wearemahker]

Funny you say that I thought I spotted a twitch when I was editing it. Rerun? (Chris)

[@ashleym4887]

@@wearemahker it was more than a twitch Chris. There was no way Dave wanted to lose and he proved it. That’s just boys and their toys for you. 😂🤣😂 but great vid though mate.

[@wearemahker]

When Ben said Go I went !!! Maybe we need to bring traffic lights next time 🚦

[@wearemahker]

@ashleym4887 thanks. We’ll get a proper race director next time and penalise him

[@JanvanderMerwe-dh3bc]

Yeah its true, if you play is slow motion you can see it. The third race was almost fair though.

[@weareallbeingwatched4602]

Fact is the LS is overtaking hard in the "dead heat"

[@madishm]

Was the m57 an old 2.9L with stock-map?

[@bart-janzwart4997]

Great video, great channel, great chap! For Andy: have a chat with Dave at Mahker. Would be great for his and your KZbin channel if you would use one of his M57 BMW diesel conversion kits 👍

[@wearemahker]

Hey thanks for the kind words we appreciate your support but who is Andy ? Thanks Dave.

[@Chris-wz4zr]

Awesome video! Would be interesting to see what would have happened if both was auto or manual. Whats the deal with the OM606? Are you guys going to drag race against one?

[@wearemahker]

If there’s an om606 defender out there who fancies it (flick back a few vlogs to see how upset dave gets when people ask about om606 engines) chris

[@Chris-wz4zr]

I would also like to see what would happen, will Dave be in a M57? Maybe DieselPumpUK knows someone who would be willing to do it, he does Om606 Defender conversions.

[@wearemahker]

Hey Dave here yes I’d be in a m57 so it’s a great comparison. As you can see from this video our cars run clean no huge amounts of black bellowing out of the m57 we pride ourselves on building reliable CLEAN powerful machines.

[@Chris-wz4zr]

Would be very interesting indeed. I was very impressed to see so little smoke out of the M57. Good luck!

[@GavinFriend-j6m]

Another great video......... kinda wish the M57 was closer as that is what I am planning for my project. May have to save a few extra pennies now 😂

[@wearemahker]

Honestly if we had a longer run up, I reckon the m57 would’ve got even closer towards the end

[@chrisbrint6648]

And some one who can drive it You should of swapped landys And done three more runs Dave is way more aggressive in driving style , good video though Love the ls sound track But the fuel economy of the m57 Dave have you ever done a lsx converse ?

[@bran170]

M57 probaly fits the defenders character better, but the ls3 will feel more special and have more personality, that said i chose the defender...

[@mortenpietsch3313]

did the V8 super warp the steering wheel or was it the excitement?

[@wearemahker]

That’s my strength of excitement 😀😀😀love Dave

[@300bhpton]

Why did you measure out to a 1/4 mile (1320 feet) then only record a 1000 ft stat?

[@wearemahker]

We were a bit pushed for time filming and daves device had some default settings which we didn’t update. We’ll do better next time

[@projectrollingthunder9049]

love it💪be interesting to see what mine can do beeing a 110 will have to stick the draggy in and find a quiet road in El Shropshire Mexico 😜

[@wearemahker]

Or maybe we can get Dave to arrange a day at the airfield for anyone who wants a run (Chris)

[@brianiswrong]

Regardless of speed/ power The lLS sound and auto box makes it a winner to my ears and left leg.😂

[@pwatom22]

Ls v8 motors are amazing

[@XIXjlo]

@8:23 that bonnet looks open. Was expecting it to fly open on that run.

[@wearemahker]

Oh me too it’s why I backed off on the first run

[@yucannthahvitt]

Torquey NA engines like the LS series just feel faster and more fun usually, even when they aren't. Fuel bill might be a bit different though

[@wearemahker]

@@yucannthahvitt very true

[@lynnferguson7349]

I adore Ethos! A left hand drive version cruising up California highway 1 would be great.

[@wearemahker]

Oh man, can we come too?

[@grahames9228]

The old saying always applies, 'there is no substitute for cubic inches'.

[@wearemahker]

You know it we’re currently building a 6.6 v8 LX3 90 now that’s going to be Bonkers !!!

[@siraff4461]

Auto vs manual and more jumping than bugs bunny. I doubt it would make any difference if it was played fairly because thats a lot more power in the V8 but it would be nice to see a fair comparrisson of the cars rather than the drivers ability to "predict" the start.

[@derJackistweg]

What transmission? I tried to understand but it is wired. So I have gone to the 1 year old video but I also could not find / hear the info on what transmission is behind the LS? Actually this result makes me wonder. 430 vs 480 HP and a lot more NM on the Diesel engine but a 6 speed manual. Especially from start the M57 should not loose so much ground. BUT: ENGINE TORQUE means nothing (!) as it is multiplied by the diff (roughly 3,7?) and gearing. Most manuals start with ca. 4,3 in first, 3,3, 2,7, and so on. the last as overdrive 0,8 or something. So 900NM crank x 3,7 x 4,3 = WHEEL torque. NOTHING else matters, depending on how long you need pulling. Like Diesel from 2-4.5trpm - LS 3-6.5trpm! IF there is a ZF 8HP behind: This will outperform any manual: 8HP70 (2.gen) = 5: 1 in first! and 2 more gear = more wheel torque in any gear.

[@wearemahker]

The ls3 has a factory spec 6l80

[@derJackistweg]

The 6L80 is similar to a ZF6HP. A pretty strong and relatively fast gearbox from factory. Afaik 1 OD gear, so the first 5 are relatively near to each other. Imho shouldnt give the LS too much of an advantage.@@wearemahker

[@wearemahker]

@@derJackistweg we will give the bmw a fair advantage next time and bring a bmw Auto 6hp

[@stewartjking4351]

Some comparison test

[@ianwatson3315]

The driving position in 90’s is do uncomfortable..even with upgrade the dash in the diesel is still wobbly 😂

[@wearemahker]

This is filmed on a 1970 Run way with huge expansion gaps I think a rolls Royce would shake also but thanks for your negativity we thrive on it much love Dave.

[@mbb05jb]

why wont he give the paint code away?

[@TC-V8]

As long as you have the gears, for the same weight, more power will always beat more torque because... physics!

[@WeirdBrick]

Indeed! POWER is this great calculation we came up with years ago but suddenly in the last 20 years thanks to moronic car journalist people actually think Torque wins races! 😂

[@Harrybowles1969]

Similar power similar speed if gearing is correct for each

[@Hector19111]

8:39 dat steering wheel

[@R-K61]

Probably help if you left your right arm at home as you should with a defender.

[@slagletoby]

It looked like 🥷was forgetting to spool the turbo.

[@leangrypoulet7523]

Dave trying to get to the same number of subscribers as Mat on CarWow. Next he'll be doing BMX tricks like the other Mat....🤔

[@wearemahker]

You make it sound as if there’s something wrong with that? Isn’t that the objective of KZbin?

[@leangrypoulet7523]

@@wearemahker Not at all. Far prefer a Defender drag race to much of the metal seen on those other channels. Now just waiting for the BMX trick!!

[@wearemahker]

@@leangrypoulet7523 morning I don’t ride a bmx so that won’t be happening.

[@leangrypoulet7523]

@@wearemahker And I thought Booties could do everything 😜. Well, you make awesome Defs (the best around?) so keep up the good work and keep the content coming. One day I hope to be wheeling my Def through your doors...🤔

[@mikescudder4621]

One guy keeps jumping the start, the other hesitating. Clearly its not the way to start a drag race....

[@wearemahker]

We definitely pro drivers next time!

[@mikescudder4621]

@@wearemahker haha, glad to hear it! Not to take anything away from these amazing vehicles. There's a channel called Mr Heads, they usually deal with tanks, but just published an old school modded defender with Jensen V8. It's crazy. You might enjoy it.

[@wearemahker]

@@mikescudder4621 I’m going to give it a watch thanks for the advice

[@Jim_Lawrence]

​@@wearemahkerStig?

[@WeirdBrick]

Even when the 330d got the jump at the start it still got smoked! What did you expect? Power to weight will always win races! Also there’s no lag in the ls3….

[@moritz1267]

That M57 needs an auto and i think it would have been a lot closer

[@mbb05jb]

I'm running 3 Honda Civics with spoon engines

[@jester5ify]

The bonnet was popped before you even moved....

[@glennbellamy7004]

Swap drivers and see who would have won....

[@wearemahker]

Maybe we will next time 😎

[@zonta71]

m57 weights in at 104kg while the LS3 weights in at 210kg. somehow i think the LS3 is just for bragging rights. for better driving it would be the M57. try driving the ls3 on twisty country lanes. i would prefer an OM606 or the M57. or even an M113 v8 mercedes engine at about 190kg and strapping a rear mounted turbo would add another 35kg but will be around 600bhp. the LS3 is a better option for drag racing due to the huge off the shelf parts rather than a daily. whats the MGP for the LS3? 12mpg? and offroad? all that weight in front would unstable on many inclines. iffy. i prefer the om606 but m57 wins the LS 3 every day if we dont count the jump starts. cant even say it was a fair race all 3 times. and auto vs manual means we need to look into gear ratios for the manual. should he have started in 2nd? at 2000rpm the m57 is dumping over 360ft/lbs. . then the 1st gear ratio it that the 3.00:1 or 3.60:1. i would have used 2nd gear to start @1750 to reduce wheel spin. maybe LS3 manual vs m57 auto

[@lorddoobsworth144]

I would have thought the LS3 would be lighter being an NA all aluminium pushrod engine? They're lighter than many other high hp engines

[@emmanuelofori6521]

LS 3 is gasoline and the M57 which is diesel stands no chance,you see it right from off the line acceleration where the LS3 starts to win.

[@nahmed92]

You put a M57 in it, why would you put a manual in it? I think it would be a much better race if they have drivers with same reaction times/gear changes. M57 driver seems asleep sorry

[@neilyeomans9805]

Worked at bmw and drove bmw models with the 330d and there v8 would have the 330d engine all day long mpg and torque

[@wearemahker]

It’s the worlds best motor in my opinion

[@anonimous336]

Ls v8 is gonna win even if he had 300hp… diesel is just not meant for racing

[@robertjhampton]

Stick i better driver in ninja and im sure it would be even closer.

[@nnoddy8161]

Bigger wheels and manual hurts Ninja, badly.

[@wearemahker]

And Phill’s granny shifting 😜

[@philihog]

@@wearemahkerrude 👀🤣

[@lupoed]

M57 definitely faster than LS winning even LS did a early start

[@soundslikeaplan841]

Not even close to fair. The both need to be autos

[@mohamedalisa1173]

😍🇧🇭🙏🏼🌹

[@barturbanek9117]

Nice toys but super slow😂

[@wearemahker]

Bring your Defender then Sir show us who is boss !

[@nickepton6676]

The old boy is just to slow off the mark 🐌

[@999mrkhaled]

Lrc008

[@justinreed9786]

Terrible driving in the ls, he launches softer then my grandma.

[@mntnceguy]

LOL...that dude can't drive to save his azs!!! Not a fair comparison by any stretch. If you don't have 2 people that actually know how to drive, then the same guy should drive both vehicles, and time the runs. This was silly, at best. Jump starts, bad drivers, and manual vs auto transmission...yea, not comparable, at all

[@wearemahker]

Which is pretty much how we hoped it would be. It was just a bit of fun, when we had both vehicles in the same place and a spare 90 minutes on filming day. Hope you enjoyed it all the same

[@fftr5647]

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[@oussama4629]

grandpa can't drive

[@DjNikGnashers]

Not really a good comparison. In fact, it probably only proves just how lame and pathetic a massive sized yank V8 petrol engine is, compared to an oil burning tiny German engine.

[@wearemahker]

Our audience asked for it, we gave it them. What would you like to see us compare?

[@lorddoobsworth144]

Those "massive" yank V8s are actually physically smaller and lighter than most Euro / Japanese V8s ;)

[@barrythebarra6683]

LS 💪

[@wolfgangezeh2221]

The comparisons are not fair on the M57, it has a manual. With an auto, I think he'd have smoked you, literally.

[@wearemahker]

Do you think we need a rerun? Longer runway, upgrade Ninja to an auto?!

[@piovo1]

@@wearemahkerupgrade it to a ZF 8