Cheyenne Jackson: Depression, Identity & Broadway

Cheyenne Jackson's journey began as a closeted musical-loving kid in a tiny town in Idaho. He has gone on to star in 7 Broadway shows and a myriad of film and TV projects. He's currently co-starring as Mayim's love interest in their new Fox show Call Me Kat. In this episode, Cheyenne opens up and shares touching stories on how sobriety helped him define his path as he navigated depression, anxiety, and addiction.
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[@vjbhanson]

I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels this way, but somehow, someway, Mayim Bialik has become my best friend.

[@lizajane1878]

Me too! Love her open and nonjudgmental interview style.

[@MayimBialik]

Hi BFF!!! ❤️❤️

[@lizajane1878]

@@MayimBialik Hi YA BFF! ❤️

[@kaddysmith]

I want Mayim as my best friend! She is beautifully unique and we would have so much fun together!!

[@rosesmith6925]

Amy would be so excited!!

[@hjsimmer1742]

Cheyenne is an "old hollywood" talent in my mind. One of those actors who is legitimately multi-talented.

[@joannadickson]

Oh my gosh, yes!!!

[@lorraineanne8766]

My love for Cheyenne just grew exponentially after this interview. He lay himself bare and shared his amazing journey. And despite his success he's so humble and just so sweet. Also, this episode just proved why Mayim is a queen in the LGBTQA+ community with the way she defended Cheyenne about playing the role of Max. Another wonderful episode, thank you Mayim and Jonathan 💕

[@johncollins1884]

"Mayim Bialik's Breakdown" is awesome. I know "Call Me Cat" is wonderful but "Mayim Bialik's Breakdown" is equally critical! However, "Mayim Bialik's Breakdown" needs to be expanded and simulcast on Bravo or mainstream (with a TV rating of PG-14 or Mature) So that the conversation can maintain its richness and continue to be filled with depth and bypass the "false television sheen dance" This experience and level of expertise needs a full (daily or at the very least weekly) exposure to a mass audience somewhere. Because, it is so honest and engaging and filled with depth. (No Disrespect) Mayim is the Doctor that Doctor Phil McGraw wishes he could fulfill the perspective of on television. She is genuine without bombast or snark; nor is she passive aggressive with an overarching sense of look at my knowledge base; none of that. Instead, she looks at the truth, beauty, and the honor in each individual circumstance and life story. Please generally consider this suggestion, I hope it happens. Thanks - John Collins

[@Historian212]

@@johncollins1884 Yes to all of this.

[@EdCastlow]

I agree also. Wow he is amazing

[@jampineda5378]

I hope Jim Parsons will have an episode here, too.

[@Songs-lr4wt]

He might not want to share his personal life on air, as he loves to keep personal. BTW they both are close friends

[@user-vr5cb8ye8t]

BTS Suga would blow this show UP!

[@emeraldeyes8688]

These podcasts get better and better. The chemistry with you guys and your guests is always apparent. Down to earth and genuine - that is what we need more and more of, especially in 2021. Thank you for sharing yourselves like this with the world. 🙏🏻

[@robertdimitrelis5567]

Mayim Bialik, smartest woman alive.

[@jampineda5378]

Agree!

[@sudsysutherland6714]

Lovely, but its possible to appreciate without putting your fear of mortality on another human.

[@jackiecauthron-schafer9554]

@@sudsysutherland6714 I do not understand what you’re trying to say. The comment didn’t indicate a fear of mortality at all.

[@collegeconvos]

Truth! What an extraordinary human she is!!!

[@fulanadetal7710]

Every time I see a Breakdown notification, immediately in my head: "it's Mayim Bialik's Breakdown, she's gonna break it down for you..." 🎶❤️

[@mollysmith1226]

Oh my goodness!! Me too!!!

[@emilymarsh3150]

i love that :(

[@darletemoraes810]

I Sing this song every day!!

[@vickismith9852]

IKR! Oddly, TBBT song was the same way for me.

[@MayimBialik]

Love that!

[@tsismarikshutashvili8268]

I want to be friends with Mayim and have endless conversations about endless topics! Sending lots of LOVE! xxx

[@MayimBialik]

❤️

[@jprevatt]

@@MayimBialik I'll let ya in on a lil known secret...we share an EXACT BDay...same month, day & year...but I was born in Little Rock, AR One day I may get to meet you in person... HUGS gf 🤗🤗🤗💖🎉🎉

[@IamEnz]

Likewise I would love to pick your mind, share your birthday as well the 12th December

[@tsismarikshutashvili8268]

@@jprevatt that’s awesome ^^

[@joannadickson]

Since I was a kid watching Blossom, I've felt like she could be my older sister. As an only child, I wanted her as my older sister!! Heck, at 36 now, I'd still love her as a sister!!! These shows are great - I am so impressed.

[@cathyn7640]

I'm a straight cis grandma and I am so in love with this whole thing and all these people. People growing into who they really are, it's so beautiful.

[@stevenrissman5133]

I’m listening to this and I totally understand. My problem is my drug is food. My wife after 43 years still doesn’t understand why I can’t sit comfortably at a table after dinner with food on it. I need to clean up or I’ll eat it all. Thanks for helping me more understand my addiction.

[@wilgoster]

...The beauty of restaurants

[@majigglesfriend]

Just catching up here. Interesting to see that I'm not the only one whose mind went to food to relate to Jackson's description of the obsession of the alcoholic. It is hard for me to eat and socialize because I am obsessed like that with the food. "Why aren't they eating that? How do they just carry on a conversation like there's not food sitting there?" I have to have rules about food. Clearing the table is helpful.

[@dawnvega383]

We need to acknowledge we are all stuck in puberty and awkward. We never grew up. We are all pretending to be grown up.

[@katharinesperandio3870]

As a licensed professional counselor and a counselor educator, I am so grateful that you have created this podcast. Thank you so much for bringing awareness to so many important topics regarding mental health. ❤️

[@tampatomtom1927]

I love how down to earth Cheyenne is. He is a great person in the community.

[@wehoscotty123]

Other than her wonderful acting, this is the perfect format for Mayim, it's fun, insightful, and thoughtful. Thank you, Mayim.

[@jimflack9462]

The modern Marlboro Man. I was moved by this episode. What a life! Thank you all for sharing.

[@marktackett5949]

Mayim is amazing in the way she gets star struck, it’s like she doesn’t realize she is a huge star herself. I love her in this setting,she is so intelligent and calm it makes you relaxed. I’m am glad she has found an outlet for her true self ,it’s clear that she loves bing the Dr. and she is awesome at it.

[@csainphor]

I was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult and took meds; I was amazed on how other people see the world. I was able to get so much more work done. I stopped taking it when my new insurance caused my copay to be utterly ridiculous.

[@bettywith2girls]

This is soooo interesting. All of these "interview" shows by Mayim are absolutely wonderful.

[@TheTripleEh]

Mayim is the only podcast where I can just as happily listen to the conversation as well as the ads.I will be so invested that I'm like, "ya ya existential crisis and childhood trauma, but also I do love some Hint sparkling water."

[@jog8483]

I LOVE Cheyenne. Have liked him for a while but didn't really know his whole story. But this interview was interesting. What makes Mayim great is her ability to give the guests space to talk. A lot of people who are supposedly good interviewers interrupt, cutoff, talk over, try to make a joke etc.. All of which derail the guests flow. I could have listened to this another hour.

[@Sandi-ke9mi]

I met Cheyenne Jackson at Drag Con in 2019. He is the nicest, sweetest, most humble person. It’s really nice to meet celebrities like that. ❤️🥰

[@Fabdanc]

I used to live in Spokane, when Cheyenne mentioned Dempsey's Brass Rail... brought back a lot of memories! It has since closed -- I think in like 09.

[@rachelbink9453]

He is the sweetest. He is human. He is kind. He is the sweetest with his kids and hubby. And at first I wouldn't watch your show because I couldn't have Tom Ellis' Gary altered for me. I knew some of Cheyenne's work, and he is spot on as Max. Totally enjoyable and adorable. Watching this tore at my heartstrings for what he went thru. He was very brave willing to relive his awful experiences.

[@mariaforzisi]

I'm a recovering Carb addict. Fell off the wagon last weekend. Had a pizza, chips, cheesecake, and rice. This is not a joke. It is a thing.

[@Latnman101]

Never compare your insides with other people's outsides. That has helped me so much in my growth.

[@adriennerice8570]

I love Call Me Kat! It's a feel-good show that makes me smile, and I can relate. :) I hope it gets renewed for another season!

[@sirpercarde709]

I watched the first episode for Mayim and Swoozie but the Phil character steals the show! I've liked this actor evertime I've found him in a show but, sadly, always forget the actor's name.

[@diannabogeart8468]

Omg I'm so obsessed Call Me Kat on tv and watching this on my phone. Mayim and Cheyenne make a wonderful team

[@t.p.3532]

He is such a beautiful honest person. Its so appreciated and it's made a difference to know others suffer and can find peace.

[@traceymcgee261]

What an incredible chat with Cheyenne. He was so open and honest. On the ADHD discussion, I was diagnosed at 50. A lot of times, women aren’t diagnosed because they don’t present with the hyperactivity aspect of ADHD. My counsellor used the glasses example when explaining how medication can work for some people - that all of a sudden they see the world more clearly. Also, many people who are diagnosed as adults have developed their own coping mechanisms. I totally get the overwhelm of too much busyness and noise. My non-ADHD friends don’t get it, but it can be a lot. It’s good to see that people are talking about adult diagnosis and about medications being okay (there are many different kinds - not everything works for everyone). There are SO many co-morbidities with ADHD, as well as there being such a wide variety of symptoms, no wonder it’s difficult to diagnose. And there isn’t a ‘medical test’ you can take that will provide a conclusive answer. This was the first of your podcasts I’ve listened to. Can’t wait to check them all out! Thanks for being you! Nice to see (and hear) that you’re hanging out with a fellow Canadian! Hi Jonathan, from Halifax, Nova Scotia. 👋🏼

[@ardenevox]

Toronto, Canada in the house. Wow! Maybe my noise sensitivity is based in my ADHD. Lightbulb 💡!!! Also diagnosed late, the "inattentive subtype" is what they call the under the radar fuzz some women have. Am enjoying these and shout out to BNL for the great theme song and music.

[@simmiurbanek5512]

Your description of the "ideal" man is spot on! Thank you for brining Cheyenne to our attention. Cheyenne, thank you for sharing your story!

[@basicmidwesterner]

I can't thank you enough for this episode. I was raised in a very cultish Christian church that did the same thing with making you speak in tongues and some horrible things happened to me. I know not all churches are like this, but I hope that parents really look at these churches and have talks with their kids on their feelings of attending these types of churches. ❤❤❤❤

[@lonm6433]

Me too!!! I hate it and I get so triggered by church talk to this day and that was 23 years ago. 😱

[@basicmidwesterner]

@@lonm6433 I do hope that you have received support since your experience. It triggers me, too. I'm just glad I'm not part of that and the hate that church had for many things that I proudly embrace. I can't even imagine how it would have been for my LGBTQ son if I were still involved in it. 😭😭😭

[@lonm6433]

@@basicmidwesterner yes, after a long 7 year fallout with my parents . We have worked through most of it. I am glad you are okay now too 🥰

[@vickismith9852]

I attended the Southern Baptist Church at my mother's insisting. That was bad enough. I recall covering my ears and pulling out eyelashes while listening to what a dinner we all were. Hell and damnation every week as the minister loomed from high above. I refer to myself as a recovering Southern Baptist if anyone asks. I am appalled by the stories many people share related to their church experiences.

[@vickismith9852]

Sorry, it should be "sinner"

[@Katfire2012]

I love your openness and non judgmental attitude!

[@zsantis3831]

I have to remind myself that beauty standards differ around the world. I think we are hardest on ourselves. It’s so reassuring to hear a beautiful, famous woman express similar insecurities. It’s also nice to hear Cheyenne speak knowingly, yet humbly of his beauty. It’s ok to know you’re beautiful and he seems comfortable with it. ❤️

[@ink6849]

Do not ever stop doing these. You are a true gem and power. Do not douse it. I have admired you since Blossom.

[@hettiegrubbs]

“You are only as sick as your secrets.” Amazing interview, Cheyenne is wonderful!

[@tampatomtom1927]

Both of you are so unapologetically yourselves. Thank you!!!!!!

[@catherinemakohn6141]

Truly an inspiring story. It is amazing how incredible it is to hear the stories of other people. So much of this episode spoke to me in ways that I didn't even realize I needed it to and I think that is the point of this podcast. By hearing other's stories, we have the opportunity to work on our own and heal ourselves. Thank you to Cheyenne Jackson for being so honest about what you have gone through and for opening sharing your experiences with the world. It is remarkable and truly appreciated. Thank you to Mayim Bialik for creating a space for people to share their stories with the world. This is so important and needed in the climate of our lives and I am beyond thankful. I look forward to this podcast every single week. Thank you again to Mayim, Jonathan, and Cheyenne for this episode.

[@MayimBialik]

Appreciate your words. Thank you for listening each week ❤️

[@lincolnsbrilliantabilities7923]

I AM Canadian 🇨🇦 And Mayim I've grown up with on 📺 now we are so pleased she has become an even Bigger "Kindred Spirit" we've all respected and her true personality shines through in everything she does. Canada 🇨🇦 🍁 and the World 🌎 adore and believe ❤ in your great heart. Thank you 😊

[@kerrygreenlees1102]

I had the very same experience in Surrey, B.C. Canada. I came out at about the same time in my life and felt all the same feelings. We were Christian Centre Academy. Unfortunately, I didn't have Cheyenne's talent or looks. haha. All ended well after I got sober and my parents ended up being my best friends. Thanks Cheyenne.

[@kathleenrichards1240]

I've been listening to the podcast from the very beginning. Now I'm watching on KZbin and enjoying every guest all over again!

[@robinsiciliano9084]

I wish I could hug Mayim, Jonathan and Cheyenne. Best humans ever and talking about the tough stuff and making it better and easier and doable. Well done guys!

[@LisaWoodcomeflywithme]

Cheyenne you are a complete and total breathe of fresh, clean air. Thank you Miss Mayim for being open, for this program and for asking questions that aren’t always asked. I am soooo grateful and thankful for this show. Thank you OxoxoX

[@MayimBialik]

xoxooxxo

[@LisaWoodcomeflywithme]

@@MayimBialik thank you.

[@princehamdanbinmohammedalm3695]

That's really a good and interesting program, am speechless, Dabbling Goddess are you a fan?

[@laurahopkinson5138]

This podcast is just amazing. Each episode. I make sure that I give myself the time, without distractions, to devote my full attention to each episode. And I always come away with something valuable. Thank you for this fantastic platform. Love it!

[@lu3481]

Wow!! I feel like this episode was sooo very touching, hope there are some more like this coming, breaking out important and very human topics. Thank you really Mayim

[@2727gab]

Another great topic with an equally great interview!! And, as always, can’t wait for the next podcast!!!

[@saracolaianni8026]

I just discovered your podcast! It has been the best thing ever!! I love how down to earth you are with you guests. It’s refreshing to see how honest and real you all are. I love these episodes and can’t wait to hear more!

[@crazyboutknitting]

I am so grateful you started this podcast. You are so exceptional & I so appreciate you!! Thank you so much.

[@millie9352]

I was looking forward to this episode and it was SO worth the wait! So much love for Cheyenne I hope you’ll have him on again in the future. Can’t wait for next week these always make my tuesdays

[@tlfspinthecoins7622]

Thank you for doing these Breakdowns- they are awesome! Keep doing them please!

[@dawnjohnson2129]

Mayim, this podcast (every episode) is very important. Thank you for putting in the time, being brave, and sharing!

[@bogeyval6349]

I stumbled upon this and have been enthralled for the last hour and half. I truly appreciate the honesty and captivating discussions.

[@leonardogarrido]

I found this show yesterday April 25th and I have already watched three interviews, love the format of the show and how Mayim is using her talents as a scientist and an actor. I watched Sofia with an F, Leslie Jordan and now this one. Its great to know that we see faces but with don't know life stories.

[@Kaila999]

I think you should do an entire episode on adult ADHD.

[@MariposaRedimida]

Yes, please! I have to get an appointment with my Dr. About this and I haven't gotten around to it yet 👀

[@janisthompson9801]

@@MariposaRedimida lol and hah!🇨🇦

[@carrievangeertry8818]

Great idea!! Yes!!

[@Kaila999]

@@MariposaRedimida HaHa! Procrastination...one of THE hallmarks of ADHD. So you live in "Mariposa"?

[@greengirl22411]

I really love this show. The realness and openness is so refreshing. Thank you!

[@irahliwanag4154]

Another inspiring Mayim Bialik's Breakdown podcast episode ♥ I've learned so much and relate myself in so many ways. Thank you for your openness and inspiring story, Cheyenne! Thumbs up as a reaction is not enough, this podcast and Mayim and Jonathan really deserve love and support to strengthen this platform.

[@PrincessDani1982]

Thank you Mayim. I love the stories & discussions you are bringing to the table. ♡

[@TheTrish60]

I just love Breakdown, I look forward each week for the notification that it is uploaded. Mayim is such a warm interesting person and has interesting people with education as well.

[@niser1996]

Absolutely loved this interview, his honesty was so heartfelt.

[@kellyconner8066]

Thank you SO MUCH for this, Mayim!

[@esrnele]

Tuesday turned to my favourite day of the week because of you and your podcast..🙈 thank you for that!!❤️ And keep uploading new episodes 🐱

[@marythomson4117]

Fantastic as always. I love these so much!! Thank you!!! ❤️❤️❤️

[@viancabasas9856]

The constant listening/ watching and learning to this podcast for six weeks is what keeping me sane. Such a great podcast from great partners in crime! This may too sound demanding but, pleasee don’t stop doing this😭❤️ xoxo

[@yvonneroshong1817]

My new favorite podcast! So smart, funny, and down to earth. LOVE all the guests so far too. Keep breaking it down!

[@dporter-gage9907]

Appreciate this show so much. THANK YOU, MAYIM!

[@alexandrabrady8675]

Really enjoying this podcast Mayim. Thank you for bringing it to fruition

[@sharonkjensmo6691]

Thank you for this wonderful way of reaching out to people who are suffering.

[@patrickbeller2116]

I'm so excited that you're doing this!! Starting with Cheyenne and working backwards. 💗

[@saracrispi9081]

Mayim I adore you! You’re so authentic! Love this podcast!! So insightful! Thank you for everything you do on your podcasts & your video sessions that you were doing around the time TBBT was wrapping. God Bless you. 🙏🏻

[@jamiekellar9932]

I love listening to you and how you bring light into our lives. Not to mention it is nice to hear someone else in this world who seems to have a lot of my same issues and how you deal with them. It is learning process to deal with and watch my kids go through it but I can help guide them through this life and making decisions that are best for them and that is what is best we are not like others but we all need each other in many different ways.

[@marycase5473]

Thank you, Mayim! Great video, as always!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@mohamedmusthaq7629]

I'm still watching TBBT on Amazon Prime for the fourth time. Really love it and never gets old. And I love your voice

[@markcrider703]

Thank you so much for posting this interview! I love the new show, I love what you did with Miranda, and I love your cast. I get warm fuzzies when I watch Call Me Kat!!

[@MattBurlingame]

ILOVED this so much! I love you guys on CMK and this was a great getting to know Cheyenne chat! An inspiration in so many ways! Especially overcoming religious trauma, which is definitely a process. Thanks for a great episode!

[@katrinarelph-mueller8490]

I really love this. Breaking things down, such a great way to learn and grow.

[@Fithobbit]

Very relatable and elevated level show for me tonight. Thank you.

[@krtkrt8259]

You are simply lovely Maxim .Thank you so much for this channel.

[@trbnie]

Thank you for baring it all, Cheyenne for being genuine. This episode once again helped me open my eyes to what I may be experiencing in introspection. Thank you, Dr. Mayim. As always, what a great, therapeutic episode. Looking forward for more ✨

[@MKhan-uv5kt]

Congrats Mayim on your podcasts!!! Each episode is so enlightening and entertaining. Keep up the good work!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@crystaladams3160]

Breakdown is SOOOO GOOD! This is the 3rd episode I have watched. SO Good.

[@carmelpuertollano2054]

Hi Mayim! I just wanted to say I’m a fan of yours from the Philippines :) Your vulnerability, courage, and intelligence have been comforting to me. The characters you play and the videos you post make me feel like I have a friend I haven’t met. Thank you for being you. You’re such a gift to the world. 💚

[@lauralehinger3794]

Wow. I went to the same church as your brother for a while. The abuse was crippling for me and I'm just now starting to piece myself together. Thank you for speaking about it. Sometimes it's easy to think it's all in your own head, but knowing it was a shared experience is helpful.

[@keyshacole388]

I thoroughly enjoy all episodes of this podcast. I was obsessed with "Blossom" when it aired...my best friend, David and I would watch together every week while on the phone with each other and it is one of my fondest memories of my lifetime. Now as an adult, I am a huge fan of Big Bang and was super stoked when Mayim joined the cast, and Call Me Kat is one of my current favorites. I love how Mayim is so smart, but still down to earth and funny and communicates so precisely. Life long fangirl 💜

[@melmacqueen]

Loved hearing Cheyenne's story. Continue to love Mayim and her journey.

[@geraldinestone188]

Really enjoying these podcasts and Mayim gets the best out of her guests

[@lindaclad2218]

Thank you Mayim and Cheyenne for a fabulous episode!!! Well done!❤

[@jamesbundy5533]

I loved this episode. While the Wheaton episode moved me because I could relate to much of what was discussed, this episode fascinated me. I love stories and viewpoints from other perspectives. Mr Jackson opened up and shared things that kept me so engrossed I had to pause and finish the episode after work so I could pay attention to the work I was doing.

[@catherinemanuele8352]

🐶Thanks, Cheyenne, for sharing the love and pain. I appreciate the honesty and hard work you put into keeping yourself healthy, wholesome and kind. Life is good, and it hurts at times.

[@janetta98]

You hit the nail on the head when talking about how our healthcare (mental healthcare) caters to those of means.

[@shellyodman3259]

I am streaming all day today. Call me Kat is awesome. I love it. Great job

[@maggiec.757]

Wonderful interview, Miss Bialik. Thank you!

[@timothyjon8351]

Again Mayim, bless you for your passion, insight, and wisdom. Cheyenne, so much of what you shared touched me and brought back much of what I went through growing up in the church. The pearl that will stay with me is "You're only as sick as your secrets"...truth. Thank you both.

[@danahopper3121]

As a massive procrastinator, I finally got around and listened to all the available episodes today! Really love the honest conversations about mental health. I’ve lived with bi-polar depression for a very long time. We need more open dialogue about things that impact mental health. Thanks for using your platform!! 💕💕

[@kloebl10]

I'm finally watching this video and I love him! A lot of what he shared resonated so much with me! Thank you!

[@darciamcdaniel4531]

Every week I tune in so that you, Mayim, can explain me to myself, and each week I am not disappointed. I experience all the same kinds of things that you describe, except I never realized that other people didn't experience the world as I do. A couple weeks ago I learned from you and Bill Prady for the first time about Sensory Overload and now that I KNOW, what it looks like, how I respond when it is happening, and (often for me most importantly) WHY it happens, I suddenly have control over it! I thank you and my children thank you, and you know why. :) This week you described how adult ADHD feels for you, something I experience in the exact same way you described but have been confused about my entire life. It is just about the filters, and I don't have any, plain and simple. I can't filter out visual stimulus, sounds, smells, touch, or other people's emotions and it is hard to live this way. I can't wait to find out how my life changes with this new information. The only part about my brain that you haven't explained yet is how my dyslexia plays into the mix with my HSP, ADHD, and empathic nervous system. I hope you have a Dyslexic friend you can bring on the podcast!

[@ToniaStorie]

My favorite guest so far. Thank you for this.

[@katherinebailey1035]

Really enjoy your show. I really like everyone's vulnerability which is so so important getting down to the basics love it

[@ensuena2]

I limit my content outside of spending time with my children and 📖 and working but I make room for this. Mayim is so refreshing. I know you did this for you- your mental state- but this has been so good for me. I leave these episodes feeling refreshed!! Refreshed?! Running a business, raising three children, working out- I didn’t think this type A could find content that could keep my attention and leave me feeling refreshed. Thank you so much.

[@anthonygoldmann9773]

Love the podcast! I have been taken with Cheyenne's journey and have explored a few of his interviews, alone, and with Jason. As an aging 'pretty boy' gay man, I concur with his perspective. His 'speak' resonates, with his quirky candor, as I've always had a colorful way of expressing myself. Thank you Cheyenne for sharing that, just because you appear a certain way, assumptions can miss the mark of who you really are! Thanks Tony

[@susanaechavarria4743]

Love your program....!!! Always listen to you while i work

[@CanuckleheadHistory]

Mayim did an amazing job with this interview. You can tell that she and Cheyenne are truly kindred spirits.