Chimpanzee Baby STOLEN from Mother?! | The Secret Life of the Zoo | Nature Bites

[@laloochie4783]

That was sweet that she let Pattie hold her baby so she could have a break too I’m sure... but I think Pattie took advantage of that and it stressed the group out a bit. ZeeZee clearly wanted her baby back and Pattie was loving every minute of experiencing motherhood 💓

[@lbar9720]

Or since it never happened before, Pattie might have been completely confused and didn't know what to do.

[@luceatlux7087]

just a passing human consideration: it couldn't be that she liked the attention, could it? i'm sure that if this was at all in play, it was a secondary thing. but still, i wonder. there is a guy with some kind of low-iq disorder/syndome that cleans my apartment complex (the look on Carlos's face 5:12 actually reminded me of him). he has learned how easy it is to be around me (i smile and am accessible. i try to make him comfy and others generally walk away from him and keep things at a distance). he has begun to curse at me when i go by to get my mail and then he'll smile when i look over.. he'll also sweep garbage up in front of my door every single day... i think i tmay be cuz he wants to get a rise out of me. he wants some kind of excitement or drama in his life or something. so that's what made me consider this aspect.

[@bryanreynolds8721]

That was so empathetic of ZeeZee. She could tell Pattie was interested in the baby and let her experience a small taste of motherhood since she's never gotten to do so before. It's sweet.

[@Hoondju]

Yeah very astonishing since they aren't blood related.

[@lindaperez6066]

@@Hoondju llp

[@LorettaRyden]

That wasn't empathy. This is not uncommon in monkeys. Mom's don't want baby hurt.

[@dewality8768]

Stop putting human behaviours onto an animal that doesn’t have the capacity nor has the mental cognition to do a thing you speak of. These are wild animals you people constantly want to humanise these creatures. It’s hilarious and very stupid.

[@ecm84ee]

@@pyro7234 humans are capable and have done this also.

[@rainstriderstreamflower5645]

I'm also impressed that Carlos shows concerning for the baby hence why he's reluctant to rescue the baby. The male is well aware that if he and Patti fight, it could result in in the infant's ☠️!

[@teijaflink2226]

Yeah he was following close all the time but didn't do anything to not escalate the situation.

[@akgrandma5035]

I think ZeeZee was so awesome to let Patti hold her baby...I'm sure it was a big deal for Patti and will go a long way in cementing a strong friendship between her and ZeeZee...and that little baby will be protected by all the chimps, including Patti.

[@teijaflink2226]

Very sweet of Carlos and Tina to follow close and have a protective eye on the baby while Pattie was carrying her. Pattie wanted to try out how it is to have a baby, Zeze was like I'll educate her.

[@yvonnecole5721]

I'm so happy and relieved ZeeZee has her little girl back safe.

[@Sammy-kn2nb]

Wow ZeeZee was so sweet to let Pattie hold her baby. I’m glad they remained calm & the baby wasn’t hurt.

[@kellyjoiner4418]

Maybe Pattie was a little sad, never having a baby of her own? And Zeezee, feeling that her little would be safe with her, let Pattie "borrow" hers for a bit. For whichever reason she just handed her baby over to her, I'm glad to know everything turned out well. 🌞

[@StinkySeaGoat]

Chimps are so sophisticated….so human but so primal, watching them is so cool

[@terryford7459]

In so nervous!! I'm half way thru the video, biting my fingers!!!😬😳 Whew!!! What a wonderful ending!!! Yay!!👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾

[@erynporter9951]

Zeezee is a smart Mom to understand that if she willingly "offers" Pattie a chance to babysit, and shows that she trusts her then it's much less likely that Pattie or one of the other females (Tina) will try to steal little Stevie and have a chance of her being hurt. Now that Pattie has had an opportunity the others should be nice and hopefully patiently wait for Zeezee to allow them a/an turn/opportunity to babysit. SMART MOMMA!!!❤️❤️❤️

[@spoons250]

Thats not true. Pattie is more likely to take it now that she's bonded with it, which is exactly why females do not let other females hold their babies.

[@Sassyglbeauty]

Man. Your heart kinda goes out to Pattie. She prob has some maternal instincts and she just wants to be mum. But, so glad they worked it out.

[@melissapyle7879]

I so wanna know what went on when she got the baby back.. and see how that happened..

[@jeffero80]

My theory is,they beat her @$$ like she was a jail house snitch

[@billbishop9029]

They are so funny the way they behave I love watching them,I went to Chester zoo 16 years ago the place is huge

[@goldenblooms6672]

This is so amazing how it’s all translated to the human language so we can interpret what these animals are doing that are so close to human beings

[@jesusislife9259]

Please, tell me what behavior of theirs that's so close to humans?

[@BrandonTheGod]

@@jesusislife9259 the fact that chimpanzees have full on wars with other tribes similar to humans

[@professionalcommenter]

I bet Zee Zee sensed that Pattie maybe wanted a baby and showed her how to hold one and love one like her own. It probably was a trial run to see if Pattie could be a good babysitter.

[@sandrastephens1508]

Excellent series, thank you All the best wishes Sandra 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇨🇦

[@Sassyglbeauty]

I can only assume things got better. Because with baby Jeff, everyone seems to take an on hands approach with carrying him around! Kinda a lucky little chimp!

[@jeffarp7409]

It's not who your family is, it's all about who you trust.

[@salpnut1619]

Great series :D

[@alezot6141]

So, it turns out, the baby was never in any real danger. Letting the chimps settle the situation on their own was the best course of action, even if the keepers were (undestandably!) apprehensive.

[@incineroar9933]

The baby was in danger.

[@ratdoto2148]

It was in danger. The keepers watch them all day long, if they believe Carlos was upset, he probably was. The mother knew how Pattie got the baby, but since Carlos was upset, he probably didn't know what was going on. If Carlos tried to take the baby, and Pattie held on purposefully or reflexively, the baby would be seriously injured.

[@cyrusjulian187]

I would’ve shot a tranquilizer at Pattie and let the mama get baby back

[@HkFinn83]

Yeh it was in very serious danger, infanticide is common among chimps

[@bajscast]

@@HkFinn83 Common amongst different groups - chimps specifically all mate within their groups and that means that they don't know who is the father, and it means all the males are invested in the future of the group. When another group is defeated in the wild, yes, usually the babies will be killed - though there have been adoptions they are rare. However the baby was still in danger of an accident, just because it's a stressful situation and they are still fragile

[@urbanemarcus5619]

Pattie was surely showing the new member of their family to all chimpanzees while letting ZeeZee rest. i think Carlos was the hype man :)

[@LamoraRogue]

So Pattie’s just the Aunty that married in to the family and Z is like I know you wanna cuddle dis baby 😂❤

[@carolynbrown7530]

I was traumatized but what a sigh of relief when mama came out with her baby

[@carolynbrown7530]

@Christy Heath I'm sorry you feel that way

[@carolynbrown7530]

@Christy Heath you do know that they share 98 % of our DNA

[@110pLover]

💀

[@jakep1979]

What really happened... ZeeZee: "Hey Pattie, can you babysit my baby for a bit!? I will pay you back with some peanuts" Pattie: "Sure thing don't worry about it, bring him over to aunt Pattie!"

[@alicethomasse5309]

Boris and Nial together!!! I love this to!! Boris, he is the good Chimp on the island, and Nial, loves him, he is zo relaxed, have very good years after you work in the zoo!! 😊😊

[@AL-wc8oy]

2:55 That one lying down just doesn't care about the world😂

[@PaddyMcMe]

That male zoo attendant is such a drama queen. 'You rock the boat you sink it' 'They could end up tearing her apart' 'put your faith in the gods.'

[@anonymoose2474]

Have you ever seen a chimpanzee video, it's not even a little dramatic. They literally tear other chimps apart

[@MrJameslupien]

Nothing about that was being dramatic. Chimps are some of the most hyper-violent and aggressive animals on the planet. They are notorious for killing and dismembering each other for the smallest slights. Zoo keepers at that point can do absolutely nothing about the situation but pray. They would get torn to shreds if they tried to go in there.

[@anonymoose2474]

They have social structures based far more on violence, and they are far more violent. I wouldn't apply the word psychopath to them, but they are insanely violent and aggressive, even among other aggressive apes. They also seek to kill and destroy when angry. They are very smart, and very strong, and very aggressive. That's a very dangerous combo. Gorillas are far bigger and stronger, but chimps are far more dangerous than gorillas@vyhozshu

[@Morgans_Mom]

Amazing creatures!!

[@PurplePanda1105]

OMG!!! The video that you showed at the end was just so beautiful!!! 🥲

[@TheRealBaxterslideralus]

what an amazing mum

[@rhondaquigley6332]

This was amazing to see!

[@charliejones4040]

How beautiful to watch.

[@errorsansthedestroyerofaus188]

I feel like zeezee felt bad for pattie since she never had a chance to hold a baby before and gave her a opportunity to hold one for the first time

[@RisitasKEKW]

Seems like a nightmare to take care of these chimps…

[@jimmyjames2903]

I can watch this video over and over.

[@inquisitive.lurker]

One sociobiological hypothesis is human(oid) females selected less sexually dimorphic, less aggressive males to avoid infanticide. It's always tough to verify hypotheses. Over time we can observe great ape males with less sharp teeth and smaller size relative to females until we get to us, the least aggressive and closest in size to our partners.

[@alvinanderson7944]

Maybe what is different is a kind of "forced troop/family" environment because of the confinement they are in. They really are not able to disagree with each other and have one or more just wander off somewhere else to form or join a new troop because of.the prison they are in. Even though it is being done to help preserve our beautiful wild life. Glad they worked it out.

[@skiitzot2f761]

Did you watch the video ? She willingly gave her the baby

[@teresacastro1263]

@@skiitzot2f761 That is pretty much what she is saying. They are forced together and cant wander away. They have to make peace maybe letting her hold the baby was some sort of peace offering showing trust.

[@MrJameslupien]

They share parental care in teh wild as well. it has nothing to do with them being in a zoo. Communal parenting is one of the defining traits of all great apes. Even the reclusive Orangutan who don't live in troops will look after each others babies.

[@BrandyRant]

Can we pllleeease see the footage of the commotion when Zeezee got her baby back. I am so curious (no pun intended)!!!

[@rosaverde2421]

Un evento muy tenso 😬😬😬 pero me alegró mucho que lo resolvieran sin daño para el bebé y con el grupo en paz.😌😌😌 Muy interesante la vida de los chimpancés en el zoo. Gracias

[@valerie362]

It feels like they've let the troop get too big, especially with everything we know about how ruthless chimps are in the wild. I realize they think the mother let the older one babysit but it could still have been about hierarchy. Even if this situation was completely copacetic, they've showed several others that weren't.

[@BananaMike780]

Wild chimps usually don't kill members of their own troop. They'll fight sometimes but it rarely turns lethal. usually, anyway. there's always exceptions.

[@cmays209]

Poor Pattie , Just Want’s A Baby Of Her Own. 😞 I hope nothing but happiness for those chimp’s.

[@kennyphelps1160]

They could simply tranquilize Patty as soon as she passes out the mother will take the baby she will wake up and all is well

[@ShevaSmash]

Except for that period between the trank shot and the chimp passing out. She's gonna get upset, which is gonna get the troop riled up. Riled chimps aren't gonna be careful with a delicate baby. The keepers know what they're doing.

[@cyrusjulian187]

Agreed, they could’ve taken the shot

[@High-Overlord-Pugula]

"Could go pear shaped" I know that's a British slang thing but it still sounds funny, yes it would be bad if it turns out to be fruit shaped in some way

[@relaxingwildsounds4178]

Great job👍👍👍👍👍

[@stephenpaul1371]

What's the lady that pass away she truly study and did a brilliant documentary on chimps she actually live among them she was the best I learn a lot about chimps through her for years she study and live among them .may she rest in peace

[@ophilianecr]

You "learned a lot about chimps through her for _years"_ ?? But you never learned her name??? 🤨 She's Dr. Jane Goodall

[@padmelotus]

Or, maybe Dian Fossey?

[@padmelotus]

@@ophilianecr Jane Goodhall is still alive. She's 88. Dian Fossey was murdered.

[@freidaelliott8769]

​​@@padmelotusFossey studied gorillas, not chimps. But yeah, I was wondering why this guy was wanting Jane Goodall to rest in peace when she's not dead yet 😂

[@kandis5576]

Held my breath through this one...

[@freidaelliott8769]

Why? Did you fart??

[@repleed98]

😂 I thought it was funny

[@kandis5576]

@@freidaelliott8769 You are rude and nasty. I'm certain someone like you has no idea though. Good luck with that!

[@johnwelshman4060]

She happy she got him bak good job

[@juliajohnson6022]

Why doesn’t the zoo keep the baby and mother separate from the rest of the group until the baby is not so fragile?

[@cmays209]

In the animal kingdom , human interaction could lead too the mother abandoning the baby. Also the fact that it’s dangerous too intervene.

[@devinosborn6157]

I bet pattie is a mom now too. Its been a couple of years since this upload so i bet pattie has her own now

[@lbar9720]

It's nice of Zeezee to lend Pattie her Infant, but then to follow her and demand the baby back must have been confusing to Pattie. "Like, make up your mind, Lady!" lol

[@ForestGirlTeresa]

I don't like chimpanzees. As the zookeeper said, you daren’t go into the group or you’d end up in pieces. The instances of group violence, raids, baby stealing and cannibalism among this species really puts me off

[@PrimateProductions]

This facility blows my mind everytime they claim that they "cannot" interfere. Im glad it turned out ok however if intervention was necessary any other facility has ways of safely doing so. Its not like it never happens!

[@honeyowen3163]

I agree! Check out "The Vervet Monkey Foundation" on KZbin. They rescue tiny orphaned vervet monkeys who get a foster mom and live in protected forest. I subscribe & watch the weekly videos to see them progress, so cool. It's baby season now & they have 15! kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6WugYungJqkh6M

[@erutannamuh8661]

Where do they do that at? Most zoos don’t interact with chimps seeing as how they literally hunt and kill their own species.

[@shellos8]

Umm, no. The guy said in 40 years he has never even heard of it. They know what they're doing. Smh

[@PrimateProductions]

@@shellos8 he has never even heard if what?

[@PrimateProductions]

@@erutannamuh8661 are you kidding me? They rear baby chimps in zoos all the time! If KZbin will leave the links up I will link you to several videos on KZbin.

[@MrG-xm1up]

Why didnt the mother rip Pattie apart?

[@lindabederio4603]

Why don’t they have cameras up so they can see what Pattie is doing to the baby, and what the screaming is all about in the brick house??

[@staclove8513]

How did pattie get the baby away from zeezee in the first place??

[@teresacastro1263]

At the end of the video, the zookeepers looked at the footage, ZeeZee actually handed the baby to Patty. But maybe you mean how the mother got it back. They went into the enclosure there was some screaming and ZeeZee came out with her baby. I don't even think they know exactly what happened there.

[@staclove8513]

@@teresacastro1263 thank you so much Teresa!😊

[@crystalrochon2367]

They are so amazing and smart and go patty and zeze how nice of u she meows patty don't have any babies so she gave her a jold

[@dianebeckett7494]

Because Carlos was so agitated and kept close to baby does that mean he's the father ?

[@KATBIRD68]

Why don't they just get a tranquilizer gun dart monkey and she'll fall asleep and then get the baby

[@Hoondju]

watch till the end. the mother actually lend the baby to her. for what purpose? who knows what she was thinking but it was the mom that gave the baby, guess she knew or had a feeling the other female wanted to hold her so she gave in before a fight.

[@davidpadilla715]

It's dangerous to do that. Darts take awhile and the ape can get mad or hyper and hurt the baby even before they come in for rescue. A big risk so their experience tells em to trust that they will know that to do. Great and awesome job to ape staff 👏 👌 👍 😀

[@whistlerwade]

@Chassummer Sonatinano, rewatch the video.

[@Hoondju]

@Chassummer Sonatina please just watch the video. How can u not understand a 7 min clip.... it's zeezee voluntarily giving the baby to the other female. She gave it to her like hey u want to hold the baby for me? That is why the keepers are surprised as well since usually they don't give the baby to non blood related. But this time she gave the baby to a non related and the reason why it's astonishing

[@deathtrapbynapalm7861]

All the monkeys have their own hollywood agent.

[@rainstriderstreamflower5645]

If the Zookeeper's reluctance to interview stems from the notion of putting themselves at risk, why not use tranquilizers

[@alezot6141]

Shooting a tranquilizer dart in the middle of a troop of already agitated chimpanzees would just rile them up MORE

[@rachelc.641]

Exactly like the above comment, I’m sure it would be no easy task tranquilizing a whole troupe of chimps when they’re already anxious. Plus what about the baby? I’m sure the odds of the chimp just gently passing out on her back so that the baby would be 100% unharmed would be slim to none…

[@cyrusjulian187]

They did it before? Why couldn’t they do it again?

[@tatertott2390]

5:10 carlos looks so silly lol

[@MickeyCreole]

I don’t know, but isn’t it time modern zoos starts ‘listening’ to their animals a little bit more? It sounds as though Pattie is a high ranking female, somewhat higher than Zee-Zee but then Zee-Zee ends up with a bundle of joy, which inadvertently threatened Pattie’s position, and luckily for that zoo’s mishandling of this perilous situation, Zee-Zee knows the chimp society’s politics much better and had to do the right thing, at the same time putting her newborn in danger to defuse the dynamics. The zoo did wrong, and before allowing Zee-Zee to breed, they should’ve given the high-ranking females the occasion to breed as well. Zoos should never dedicate how an animal society should work because in this situation the newborn could have been killed and a huge conflict that could have seen Zee-Zee, Carlos and Tina seriously injured, even the top male was getting upset. Ridiculous and carelessness on the zoo part

[@amydamjanovic9183]

Zeezee: “I am NEVER letting you babysit again, Pattie!”

[@jasonpalacios2705]

It reminds me on how a Human Mom reacts when their child go missing.

[@troutfisher7182]

Maybe ZeeZee considers Patti to be like family

[@wormhole331]

I had no idea that "daren't" is a word.

[@katielyb]

They could tranquilize Pattie

[@jasonpalacios1363]

It's just like person kidnapping a child and the human mother is worried.

[@MrJameslupien]

The baby wasn't kidnapped. The mother gave her to her to hold.

[@adityajha3423]

binge watching this chimp stuff

[@christhe2dprotogen511]

This is the only drama I need in my life

[@elcabo4557]

At this zoo, they implemented a new rule where if a baby chimpanzee or orangutan is touched by any other animal than the mother in the first 8 years, the baby must be surrendered immediately, fed to the hyenas and to be shown publicly on KZbin. it’s mostly used for advertisement to help the zoo, but it’s still very important that it gets done in a timely fashion.

[@zakazany1945]

dafuq

[@karlperriment7763]

Fascinating

[@lindabederio4603]

I meant using the cameras in real time, not evaluating afterwards.

[@ThreePhaseHigh]

Give me a Orangutan over a chimpanzee and time.

[@enderasu]

I actually wants the guy blue shirt to go inside.

[@SuperTonyony]

Maybe Pattie's name should be "Karen".

[@sharont2009]

Maybe all of you who said keepers were making something of nothing. Look at this. They were worried this would happen. Last video. Now? They were right Think again. They are the experts not us.

[@honeyowen3163]

Check out "The Vervet Monkey Foundation" on KZbin. They rescue tiny orphaned vervet monkeys who get a foster mom and live in protected forest. I subscribe & watch the weekly videos to see them progress, so cool. It's baby season now & they have 15! kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6WugYungJqkh6M

[@KassieDavid]

Interesting 🤔

[@michaeltimberlake4864]

So the baby was not stolen.

[@VA4LVRS]

Is Tina a sibling

[@gred3322]

2:51 that must be the troops local pot head 😂

[@shakim3765]

Poor baby, oh my goodness, its so hard to watch this.

[@dabooser1048]

Only half way through and I had to pause it, this is way too stressful...... whew alls good. Would have liked to see the return to the mother.

[@4rsalways]

So how did they get the chimps to the zoo? What do they do if one needs surgery or other health care?

[@TsmithJustin]

'If you rock the boat you'll sink' is the most europoor thing I've ever heard.

[@melaniemiller3351]

Wonder if patty could have an adopted baby to have?

[@ritamccomas9271]

And feed an adopted baby how? Don't think great apes know how to fix bottles!😜

[@amydamjanovic9183]

It’s amazing how the chimps are intelligent enough to know that trying to calmly diffuse the situation is the best way to keep the baby safe rather than use physical force to take her back.

[@melindazfamily7567]

So there was no kidnapping the baby was entrusted and given away by the mother as she guarded and supervised the unrelated female zeke. In 40 years they have never seen it done in an captured environment. Let them animals live in their own habitat and do what they do you can’t understand and explain it all.

[@crystalrochon2367]

Zener yea she's is so smart dam pattie

[@traviscoates6878]

Stolen chimp babies are currently my favorite KZbin genre...

[@Ant-bm1qk]

Lmao

[@Dani-Haze]

OH MY GOD ZEZE?

[@anjapalmer8305]

Who not give Pattie her own baby!!!,

[@spatrk6634]

all storks are unavailable.

[@TedH71]

How come Pattie hasn't had her own baby? Is she unable to have any?

[@MrJameslupien]

.............Adult female chimps dont spend their entire adulthood with a child to look after. No mammals do. Do you walk around assuming all human women without children are incapable of having any?

[@TedH71]

@@MrJameslupien In the wild they would most likely already have a baby. The zoos raise and sell animals whether you believe it or not. If the zoo is on a certain zoo registry, they have to follow rules on who to allow to breed and when. It's complicated and she may have been sterilized anyway if her bloodline is numerous out there in the zoo registry. Sounds like you're taking it personally. You shouldn't.

[@MrJameslupien]

@@TedH71 They arent forced to breed in captivity. They're encouraged to but are not physically forced to. If you knew a damn thing about Chimps you would know that their complex social structure doesnt allow for every female to have full accesss to mates. Mating rights are chosen by the dominant male of the troop. Low ranking females are at the very bottom of the totem with very little say in mate selection. Thats why. Now take your chimp black market conspiracy theories somewhere else.

[@TedH71]

@@MrJameslupien I have been watching the various videos and yes you're correct but I've also seen about other alphas killing the beta mom's baby and things like that.

[@jenniferw3953]

@@MrJameslupien Ted was not promoting a conspiracy theory. It is not a secret that the zoos, around the world, trade and sell animals and they do arrange for who can mate with who. Some female mammals are put on artificial birth control. There are often legit reasons for doing these things in the best interest of the particular species.

[@venetianortrup8693]

Zeezee is limping

[@annetteturner5954]

More protected baby then most humans.

[@Karenmariepombagira]

The legs look like human legs

[@shaindaman13]

Well this one was another big let down. I was ready to see her rip into it and take a big bite out of the little one

[@mlee9734]

They love to pump up drama on this channel.

[@GetMeThere1]

I thought we were going to see something very unpleasant...

[@cherokeeheartct8633]

I thought nobody could take a chimpanzee baby without a fight to death

[@kellyjoiner4418]

She didn't take the baby, the baby was handed to her by Ma. 🌞