China's Plan to Clone the Entire Gaming Industry | Asmongold Reacts

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[@kanaria-cu3uv]

That one guy that said an ancient chinese story copied dragonball LMFAO 😂

[@GazerPlur420]

Heard that comment as I got to yours. Can't believe someone said that. 😂

[@GrimmdarkTruth]

🤣

[@songkai-ii5ts]

its like “whosyourdaddy” in realife lol

[@B4nana888]

The general flawed logic of the West is that we think we are the originals of everything. Someone even told me that China copied paper lmao

[@Shiirow]

@@GazerPlur420 didnt you know that Saiyans are real and they created the Han Dynasty.

[@EternalxNightmare]

There's actually a game called "Wonderland Online" that i played in my teens. Was the best online mmorpg ever. It sadly got shutdown though. I miss it.

[@meteordaddy8638]

If Black Myth Wukong is made in the US, Wukong will be a black transgender woman.

[@paxonite-7bd5]

Wukong is the monkey king 💀

[@LordEmperorHyperion]

And they'll get destroyed faster than Assassin's creed Shadow with the fake "black samurai" Yasuke.

[@kxdlxnn]

笑死我了

[@-1450socialcredit]

wukong is nongender

[@DinoMan_6]

Please no.

[@Tential1]

"I never meant to copy, only to surpass" anytime I'm caught plagiarizing

[@MeF0r3v3r]

By copying it and add extra things to it. Everything the same but except it's in Chinese lol

[@luizmonad777]

except that's exactly what Japan did, now look at their electronics industry, its just better.

[@bobgorski9258]

Even Germany started this way. The made in germany started to mark shitty products for the international market.

[@gDiscovery95]

At least China innovates not just copy and paste it.

[@The13thRonin]

"You never meant to be a loser, but you are." Your teacher every time you get caught plagiarizing.

[@kazwushu2495]

the one who commented that black myth wukong is based on DBZ must have been mindblown.

[@zonedout3390]

Except your wrong too 😂 Journey to the west is the original works name, DBZ was then cashing in on the story and just to make sure you understand DBZ is JP, Journey to the west originated in China in the 16th century. Now that you've learned something let's go over the fact that Black myth wukong is indeed Chinese made, the story is indeed from the mainland. So your wrong in saying it is based on DBZ. If your going to call out someone or say something that you think is a fact when it's not do yourself a favor and look it up and fact check yourself before you make yourself sound uneducated in the comments

[@valeries0817]

@@zonedout3390 nah he's jokingly talk about it🤣

[@robertgiesbrecht4394]

@@zonedout3390 that's literally what he said. Hes pointing out that the person in the stream that said "even monkey king is based on Son Goku from Dragon Ball Z", must have been surprised when he learned that journey to the west inspired DBZ, and not vice versa. Read the comment really slowly (since you're obliviously mentally slow), and try to comprehend it properly, before going off on a tangent about something that wasn't being said next time. You'd look less moronic that way.

[@MezHobby]

​@@zonedout3390bruh FRIENDLY FIRE! FRIENDLY FIRE!

[@AlexanderTVEducation]

​@@zonedout3390stop yapping and read his comment again.

[@ultralance7470]

Not OBAMA FRIED CHICKEN 😂😂😂

[@DanielZeal]

I'm offended that we don't have one here in the US 😂

[@DarkXessZ]

you know there is McDonalds clone called Wallace and their Icon instead of a M like McDonalds, its a upside down M with a W. They also have Oreo clones. The difference between all of them? the taste is worse and quality is worse, but it is way cheaper.

[@quentinlelievre276]

​​@@DarkXessZ Wallace is disgusting and not that less expensive tho

[@DarkXessZ]

@@quentinlelievre276 I mean if you compare to McDonalds, it is quite cheaper like McDonalds Burger Set Meal cost like 40 yuan while Wallace is like 20 yuan? Yes it is cheaper and taste worse in general.

[@GAMINGBLAZE]

@@DarkXessZ China Rocks USA Shokz

[@shashanknegi1255]

First they clone Elon Musk and then this.

[@HansWurst1569]

yee long musk

[@Swoiny]

@@HansWurst1569 yi lon ma

[@shashanknegi1255]

@@HansWurst1569 hahahaha 😆

[@Vanlifegamestudio]

They had my app cloned off of google play within a day. 100 downloads and 4 stars. I made $4... -tax. so about $2.50

[@wanderer8038]

@@Swoiny its Yi Longma

[@cxxal]

25:15 DBZ was based on Journey To The West, not the other way around. the name "Goku" is the Japanese translation of "Wu Kong".

[@StarkEpiphany]

I laughed way to hard at the comment. Lol Like that person clearly has no clue how old Journey to the West is.

[@bayraktarx1386]

It's DB not DBZ.

[@Shredius]

You would be surprised by how many people think that Goku from DB is the original. They don't even know how old Journey to the West is.

[@kaizokud42]

More like inspired and not copy paste.

[@TrackMediaOnly]

Heavily inspired, but it isn't Journey To The West. And that would be DB not DBZ. The Monkey King doesn't go SSJ3 in JttW.

[@makotroid108]

I spit my coffee out when the chatter said; "even monkey King is based on Son Goku".

[@GL-iv4rw]

Which "Son Goku" though, there's actually several 😂

[@lucascamelo3079]

Lol

[@frostmistgaming]

Hahaha, I was like what tf that guy smoking about??😂😂😂

[@errorrrr]

yea lol... seriously... what the fuck. Monkey King existed like... CENTURIES before son goku hahaha.

[@danielantony1882]

@@GL-iv4rw That would be neither, actually.

[@ysgramorssoupspoon2261]

Next up: how Sweet Baby is a chinese plot to make western game devs self destruct.

[@IKaruko]

Honestly it would make a lot of sense.

[@unclevamp]

yer probly not wrong

[@Claudekr]

It's not like DEI is only in the game industry. In fact games were one of the last things it infected. More likely it's a plot to make the entire west self destruct and it's been working great.

[@JohnDoe-ef3wo]

That's the Cee 👁️ A for ya!

[@ligerstripe99]

@@Claudekr You can tell they're behind it because china is the only country that out right has outlawed anything to do with it. they outlawed depictions of sissy(their definition) men in all forms of media for example.

[@wayneyip9569]

As a Chinese player, I have to say acutally many years ago we don't have platform like Steam and Epic, and there is very limited formal and legal way to have games' CDs, so abundant of crack version appearing in the market and online downloading. Till recent 10 years it has gone better since Steam bring us a good community. And believe me, Chinese players hate cloned game as well, that's the reason why majority of us now do hope Black Myth Wukong can fvck China game market that filled with full of cloned microtransaction games.

[@胖大海-m8f]

indeed my friend

[@smithynoir9980]

Heck yeah! Gamers Stand Together!

[@Truthorfib]

Now they should make like a God of war series for Wukong or other stuff. Maybe make a game about Ip Man.

[@Infamous41]

​@@Truthorfibhow? Ordinary Chinese can't just make a game and sell it they have to get the ccp permission

[@worksonweekends]

​@Infamous41 uhh you kinda have to get permissions in every country to release a game, it's called regulations ...

[@desmien679]

Chinese companies have been doing this for years. In fact Tencent CEO in interview said "copying isn't wrong" but they have no problem with lawsuits for when others copy their products and also pressure other companies to kill off their games after 2-3 years

[@leatherDarkhorse]

also dont forget now more than half tecent game and media are ai generated SHAMELESSLY.

[@desmien679]

@@leatherDarkhorse actually wouldn't that be the number of the games they got from hostile takeovers and killed off from over monetization?

[@alexs2195]

Western countries should create a law not respecting coprights from countries that dont respect western coprights

[@anhnguyenhoang210]

Isn't it because most of the games that got killed in 2-3 years are hot garbages designed to siphon as much money before going EoS? They'd die even if 10cent leaves them alone. The games created with passion and quality like Girls Frontline, Arknights, Azur Lane... won't die no matter how much 10cent "pressures" them.

[@kbeadle23]

China doesn't recognize foreign copyrights

[@Kavou]

There is a good phrase that Phil Knight once said "When someone copies you, is a form of a compliment, but when they mimic you, that's where the problems come".

[@不会吧-j7n]

Suppose a product sells well in China (assuming it costs $1), it only has about a month to sell it to make huge profits (assuming it sells for $10). After that, a large number of manufacturers entered the market. Removing shipping and storage brings the price back close to cost right away. Overall, this is beneficial to ordinary people in China. For example, the price of electric cars in China has reached US$10,000. Compared to a $10,000 gasoline car configuration a few years ago, it is simply upgraded by several levels! Another point is that China is a socialist country to the people and a capitalist country (state capitalism) to the world. It does not protect capitalists. Capitalists need to serve the government. The government needs to serve the people (policies are formulated very quickly , and as soon as the policy passes the pilot, it will be implemented nationwide, but it may damage the interests of a few people, but for most people, the impact is actually relatively positive).

[@jaezon4040]

Ask Phil Knight to make the distinction about what the differences are and then we'll talk.

[@brucezhang211]

@@不会吧-j7n man that's just how market based economy works man, the video so emphasized on china shed a blinding light on what's going on around u, ye?

[@Infamous41]

​​@@brucezhang211true they just can't sell it outside china

[@Naeinsengimnida]

Japan stole most of Chinese culture and did Anime, Americans were like wE lOvE iT I don't see any video talking about that. Same old same old Western bias and double standard.

[@jesse89625]

Basically 90% of Japanese culture was copied from China

[@kushansumanaweera7086]

Always has been lol western like to cry

[@jub8891]

was it stolen or was it introduced?

[@animeweng]

They copied. Heian era Japan dressed like Tang Chinese. Kyoto Japan is based on Xi'an China. Ramen is based on La Mien. Gyoza dumplings based on jiaozi dumplings. Tofu and Soy sauce from China. Journey to the West in Japanese is Saiyuki. Sun Goku is based on Sun Wukong. Romance of the Three Kingdoms have their own Japanese names.

[@jianxianlee5892]

Many Chinese hoped that Blackmyth Wukong can be a success since this would make the Chinese gaming companies see the market and potential. If they fail, they think the Chinese gaming industries will enter another dark age

[@themurmeli88]

If anyone has ever watched SsethTzeentach 's videos playing chinese made games that involve chinese culture/myths, the biggest issue is exactly that, their culture. It's way too... nonsencical? As in it's steeped in inside-cultural-references that no one outside of chine could even begin to understand wtf is going on, because it's a one chaotic mess on religious superstitions, feng-shui, traditional medicine, historical figures both real and fake, references to books, references to references of references etc etc. and there is no attempt to explain or open anything up. If you have ever watched a japenese comedy (anime or live) and you couldn't tell what the joke was like 50% of the time, dial that to 11, and you'll have a decent idea.

[@easonzhang1326]

@@themurmeli88 That's true, and translate chinese to english is extremly hard, almost impossible to convey beutifully as they are, which will make the game's lore more confuse for foreigners. but i am glad to see Black myth has a lot of quality outside it's world building and lore that attracts foreigners

[@badking1079]

@@themurmeli88 True, but unfortunately, this is the only theme that can easily attract everyone, and it's also the only thing that most of the Western people has some knowledge about China, which means there will be no trial and error costs.

[@清德賴-v7q]

@@badking1079 You have to know that "Journey to the West" is just a novel from more than 400 years ago. There are many such works in Chinese history. For example, "Classic of Mountains and Seas", "Investiture of the Gods", "Mythology of the Great Wilderness" There are too many. China is the only country with a continuous civilization. There has been no interruption in history. The pattern of changing dynasties ensures that China has not been "conquered" in the Western sense. Chinese history is continuous. Just like the United States 200 years ago has continued to this day. . China only has ancient music scores. There are millions of them. So when Macron came to China, he could hear the music played by a 1,000-year-old piano.

[@清德賴-v7q]

@@badking1079 There are too many themes similar to Journey to the West in China. . So once China masters the technology, there will be more and more Chinese games. . And they will get better and better. The only way to impose short-term restrictions on China is to ban game engines. This will stop China for three years.（Although China has its own game engine, it is not at the level of Unreal 5.）

[@Magemaster55]

Producing games for cheaper doesn't mean that game prices go down. Prices never go down only up.

[@ripplecutter233]

Salaries go down though 💔

[@hey_its_travis]

Just quality

[@MrDecessus]

So right only the mindless drones things things go down just because the techno bros make more profit. goes to show the lack of intellect from all that religious top down brainwashing.

[@luizmonad777]

that's called inflation, welcome to the real world kid

[@MrAccesspro]

Bros never learned some things go on sale

[@adrianl415]

It's funny how all the keyboard warriors are complaining about it while using a keyboard made in China using a device made in China while wearing clothes made in China.

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

Agreed

[@TrackMediaOnly]

You are not wrong, but that also doesn't mean they are wrong for not liking it. I would prefer not to, but given we've allowed almost all our manufacturing to be outsourced to China(or other countries) there isn't always an alternative. I personally try to buy US whenever I can. Those who care just all have to help point it out and do what we can to not do that.

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

@@TrackMediaOnly that's the worst thing u can do What's bad admit buying from china ?

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

@@TrackMediaOnly what's bad about it ? Chinese govt is their own . We should worry about our govt instead of others If this is your logic them never buy anything made in USA ever. I ll buy more made in china

[@saint8257]

@@TrackMediaOnly You can actually find almost any consumer products you want NOT made by China and made by Europe or the USA so that's a bulls**t excuse. Your only problem is when you do so the price is several times higher. This is why you guys need China to manufacture your shit, because your own companies can't afford to pay you guys in your own countries because of inflation, which means they'd need to pay you more in order for you to afford living in the West but if they do they'd go bankrupt. Outsourcing labor and manufacturing to China and other developing countries is a necessity for you guys to maintain your current quality of life. Otherwise most of your households in the US and many in the EU who are already living paycheck to paycheck would go fucking bankrupt if you buy only US and EU-made products.

[@vincesiy1403]

It is nice that Asmongold quickly corrected the ignorant post of one user in his stream that said Journey to the West is a rip off of dragon ball Z lol. Son Goku is basically based on Wukong the monkey king. Just goes to show how ignorant some people are nowadays. A lot of Japanese games in the past actually are based on Chinese Literatures because they share a common ancestry.

[@LiyueHuman]

Share common ancestry? Japan literally COPIED entire China, from architecture to language to governmental systems

[@vivliforia2262]

Wukong could be based on Hanooman. It's India again.

[@vincesiy1403]

@@vivliforia2262 nope very different.

[@jeffbolton2986]

​@@vivliforia2262nobody cares about hanooman..wu kong is the goat

[@zepar6076]

Dragonball, only inspired, not based.

[@thehumus8688]

"while Western Studios take sweet sweet time...." and somehow they still fail most of the time (day 1 patch ? game is service, botched launch etc ) how....

[@matthewmosier8439]

Didn't use to.

[@DarkXessZ]

Because the people who are in the Top position never played Video games, so they dont understand that the game industry is a whole different beast compare to business industries. I mean look at the Xbox CEO keeps talking about mobile gaming and not understand the mobile industry is saturated that it is HARD to get a slice of pie out of it than PC/console games.

[@Chopzi11a]

Woke consulting companies

[@MRoROBOT]

is not like all of them not fail last year we have a lot of hit like BG3 Hogward legacy

[@chuckmarius323]

that's not the norm for western studios though... just the stupid ones.

[@Varner410]

Chinese call of duty. They'll call it forced service lol

[@Nangong-Tianzhi]

and which is why chinese army kicked us army's ass @ korean war eh?

[@j_stach]

@@Nangong-Tianzhi you mean the war on China's front porch?

[@meganoobbg3387]

Forced service is atleast free to play usually :D

[@montreauxs]

STILL WORKS THOUGH.

[@LimeGuy101]

COC - Call of Conscription

[@naturalLin]

Dynasty warriors, made by Japanese company on Chinese history. I’m not complaining. If you look at history, what famous artist didn’t learn and copy art techniques from another?

[@lucascamelo3079]

That's just how we evolve. They calling genshin a copy o btw is bullshit. Totally different games meant to be played in diferent way. Like, it's not even close, the game loop is nothing similar.

[@NewData-ly4ck]

23:22 the "west" in journey to the west means india, not western countries

[@清德賴-v7q]

It is not the India of today. It is the ancient Nepal region. India is the region controlled by the Aryans. In ancient times, it was a tribal continent. It was not a unified country. . It was the British who unified the Indian subcontinent.

[@exister4959]

​@@清德賴-v7qno. "Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel is known as the man who unified India, integrating over 500 princely states into the modern nation-state of India" Everyone should take this as a lesson on why they shouldn't believe everything they read in youtube comments.

[@TheTimeGnome]

Yea and the fact it was about Buddhist learning based on a monks real journey to get Buddhist texts to bring back to China to confirm his own thoughts.

[@mfallen2023]

@@exister4959 No. India is sandwiched between Illinois and Ohio.

[@Shiirow]

@@mfallen2023 India is just the alternate name for Detroit.

[@athernandez666]

"I didn't mean to copy, just to surpass" That goes so hard, holy shit!

[@numetalklass]

But failed and ended up with a shitty copy of the original 😅

[@TheAccursedEntity]

and failed miserably 😂

[@FlippableFlappy]

@@TheAccursedEntity boeing whistleblower

[@tomasanex4323]

It gets less hard when it turns out to be an unplayable cashgrab

[@TrackMediaOnly]

@@numetalklass Most Chinese stuff is because there is a huge culture of cutting corners.

[@darreny1375]

Chinese lawyers: "all mods are illegal, all copying is illegal!" Meanwhile China in ALL international materials: "It's not illegal. You let me build it or work on it? We own it now!"

[@GeorgeMonet]

It's only wrong when someone does something they don't like.

[@aa.bb.9053]

You’re probably lying & consider it hyperbole. In a lot of joint ventures, transfer of knowhow is in the contract. So “you let me build it or work on it” is basically a lie (for examples you’re probably referring to, which you don’t bother to list). It’s more like “you share IP for the privilege of making billions through our cheap labor and our enormous consumer base”. Standard capitalism.

[@GimmieVidspl0x]

​@@aa.bb.9053Do you speak from ignorance or duplicitousness? Given that you refer to the Chinese position as 'our', I'm guessing the latter.

[@Mendicant_Bias]

Found the commie​@@aa.bb.9053

[@NintendoChavos]

Good artists copy, great artists steal

[@Sonic557]

Hello, I want to mention that there are an entire sub-genre of games called Wuxia (literal translation: martial arts and chivalry) games out there, from the classic 仙剑奇侠传 (Sword and Fairy) to the most recent indie title 逸剑风云决 (Wandering Sword). These games have a very long history and there are hundreds of them, many RPG and some action. They are seldom known in the Western world because many of them weren't localized into English and culturally not very compatible to western audiences, but very popular among the Chinese speaking population. She didn't mention these at all in her video either because she didn't care enough to do the research or deliberately chose not to because the existence of these games didn't support her argument.

[@N7sensei]

There is a sizeable wuxia / manhua / manwha / chinese and korean novel subculture on the west. Chinese stories almost always suck though. They have the same tropes, the annoying young master, the main character that smugly shows the world that rejects him how amazing he is, and so on.

[@someone-mz6kw]

​@@N7senseiThey are badly translated too.

[@N7sensei]

@@someone-mz6kw Yeah. Usually the translation is absolutely awful. I tend to read them while battling my insomnia and trying to fall asleep. There are a couple of fun ones though. You just have to mow through a lot before you find a decent one. It is interesting how derivative they are. Almost all of them are copy paste, just rename / redraw the characters, but essentially the same story.

[@劉浩浩-u6g]

Sword and Fairy is made by Taiwan 😂

[@WorkWork-g2u]

@@劉浩浩-u6g Which is a part of China.

[@RelyeaGaming]

I’m a big fan of hollow knight and seeing the copy, Deviator is interesting. It feels a lot like Hollow Knight but they added the need for a parry mechanic. That alone ends up making the game play a lot different because you must parry to be able to heal. The artwork is strikingly similar to hollow knight. Not sure if it will end up being a good game or not but I’ll be happy for more games like Hollow Knight if it’s any good. if Deviator looks and feels too much like hollow knight and they don’t do enough of their own work then I think the players will feel that and not like it.

[@Delano777]

you should play Nine Sols then its really good

[@Blueybeak]

glazing hollow knight so hard that you support clones of it is wild

[@Cannon500]

Its not like Western AAA game studios are doing a lot of innovation either. Every new Ubisoft, EA, Bethesda, etc game plays just like the previous game, but in a different setting. In fact, new releases can be inferior than the predecessors, as shown with Skull and Bones.

[@Ralathar44]

TBH that's pretty ignorant. Ubisoft is a huge company with a massive variety of titles, it just has a few mainstay series in the same genre. But go google up everything they've developed. Its alot. Bethesda actually gets criticized every release for all they've changed. The biggest complaints about Starfield, Fallout 4, and yes even Skyrim was that they were not enough like their older games. They don't reinvent the wheel sure, but they do significantly iterate and try new things and people gripe and kevitch every time. But they still do it. When Back 4 Blood was released, the biggest complaint was that it was not enough like Left 4 Dead 2. God knows how many MMOs released where people went "you shoulda done this more like WOW". You blame the devs, but the devs are innovating and trying new things even in the face of huge pressure from gamers to just do it like the old games.

[@poppintags2280]

@@Ralathar44I don’t know enough to talk about the other parts of your comment but for the part about back 4 blood: a lot marketing material for it revolved a lot around name dropping L4D, with a lot of advertising containing the phrase “From the creators of left 4 dead” somewhere. It feels like it relied a lot on the legacy of l4D to create hype, which is why a lot of folks were disappointed when it fell so short of the games it built its whole identity around. At least, that’s my two cents about it.

[@Ralathar44]

@@poppintags2280 They didn't have a choice. Their original reveal trailer (REVEAL trailer, before the release trailer) did not have any of that. But the entire internet and all the journalist articles labeled them L4D and noted their creator status anyways. So they had two choices, lean into or fight it. They leaned into it. Now you might say that is a mistake, but the same thing happened to Redfall way before their release. The Redfall devs argued people said they were not a L4D game. The internet and journalist articles called them liars. They released a demo to say see, we're not Left 4 Dead game. And the internet and jouranlists doubled down they were L4D. Redfall may have been a terrible and unifinshed game on release, but that stuff happened before anyone knew that. So basically, there was no winning for Back 4 Blood. They were going to get that label no matter what they did. The fact they leaned into it is just an excuse for people to do what they were already gonna do.

[@Ralathar44]

@@poppintags2280 TBH though the thing that really bothers me about the Back 4 Blood situation isn't people complaining about the marketing or the game. It's the fact that the Left 4 Dead community literally waged a misinformation campaign against it, intentionally trying to kill it. And they still are. It's gone on for years. The game lives forever rent free in their heads. They were saying wild stuff like the game has microtransaction (quite literally has zero). And go look at the negative reviews, most of them are just "go play left 4 dead" and don't say anything else useful. Usually with less than 5 hours. If you removed all those L4D review bomb reviews the game would have a great review score and the fact its still alive and kicking today with currently over 11,000 players (they are on sale right now, putting it almost as low as L4D2 prices, usually they have closer to 4k) says despite the attempted sabotage says alot about the fact the game being pretty quality. You can use steam scout to parse the reviews and the review ratio at 5+ hours is really positive.

I am a Chinese gamer. I personally hate Tencent because they rely on their channel advantages to produce a large number of krypton gold games. Plagiarism and cloning have always existed in the gaming industry, but Tencent’s strong channel traffic advantage will make Tencent games more likely to succeed. , due to the rapid development of mobile games and the prevalence of gold-based online games, stand-alone games are not popular in the Chinese market. Manufacturers are also unwilling to develop high-quality stand-alone games, so gradually many Chinese players go to the American Staem platform. All Chinese players hope that more high-quality single-episode games will emerge in China and cultivate this market. This is a good thing for Chinese players, as well as for single-episode game manufacturers and player groups around the world. When there are more and more genuine stand-alone players in China, It will promote the development of the global stand-alone market. Only when there is a market can there be competition, and more high-quality 3A masterpieces will appear. This is why I very much hope that Black Mythology can succeed. Black Mythology is the first Chinese company to invest 100 million US dollars. Standalone 3A game. There is no krypton gold, no recharge, no rankings, a real hardcore stand-alone game.

[@djslw0114]

Remember genshin impact was once criticized for being a botw clone? Never would've thought it will become as big as it is now😬

[@zhongliimpact6220]

yeah because actually only a few ppl really care about that. Most people don't

[@MagnificantSasquatch]

Well, at least it’s no longer just wholesale made with BotW stock assets. …I mean, mostly. Still in early game regions.

[@ThePhilosogamer]

@@MagnificantSasquatch It never was made with BotW assets. It was always its own thing. If you bothered to look at the game or its development history, you'd know that it evolved out of their previous game - Honkai Impact 3's - open world mode, and gradually dumbed down the combat while ramping up exploration and puzzle solving until it eventually became what it is: an open-world RPG. That is in contrast to BotW which is an open-world action-adventure. The influence of BotW is unmistakeable in Genshin's hilichurls an climbing systems, but literally nothing else about the games are even similar. The "clone" claims were always stupid.

[@djslw0114]

@@ThePhilosogamer Indeed, I thought it look a bit too similar to botw when it's still in beta. I'm glad it managed to find its way and become something unique. I wasn't a fan of the story, grinding and gatcha crap but I will admit the open world is gorgeous and the characters are very likeable. However, it's sad to know that there's always a group of dedicated haters in China who never get over the "botw clone thing" and spend unhealthy amount of time & efforts to slander the game, I mean damn just go look up... these ppl has issues.

[@jittertn]

Wow i got to see comments in this thread deleted in real time while still reading them Thx Ustube

[@Luisarrietaso123]

China is beating The US in the capitalism game. LMFAO

[@yuluoxianjun]

😂china even beat usa on ev by caitalism word “overproduct”😢

[@thedude925]

You know your capitalism has turned to sht when the communist country starts out capitalisming you.

[@GrassSaint33]

It's funny how they do all this and then turn around and talk about how evil capitalism is. Do they not realize?

[@bhe8336]

Us needs better people in charge then it can turn around. Need to drill oil and natural gas. Need to build factories and fabrication plants. Need to expand the grid..etc

[@nooked23]

If the government forces the same “partnership” to sell in my country model back to them. I’d be fine with it. They are weaponizing capitalism against the West and we just allow it.

[@battlebrother2390]

China is becoming a true parallel universe

[@bhe8336]

The west is the one that places economic sanctions utilizing their global control over the reserve currency and associated accounts. The west is coercing China right now actually to make less goods.

[@konkats-tg7pf]

i have a feeling that they even copying themshelves, they raeched 1.5billions ffs

[@JohnDoe-ef3wo]

A better universe at that..😮

[@Joetoep]

*multiverse ;)

[@mantraki]

In general Asia is like a parallel universe, for the better or the worse

[@KindOldRaven]

IDK man, I'm not a CCP fan or anything, but if China ups their game (literally) in game production, as well as they have done with certain electronics for instance.... that's a good thing. We really do need competition in the AA and AAA markets. If China enters that with either really good copies or original works, that's a net win for gamers in general.

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

I am a fan of ccp

[@NeoTheMissingPerson]

​@@jacksmith-mu3ee I also like the China's capitalist party, who does not?

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

@@NeoTheMissingPerson is gaming . No such thing as capitalism or communism in gaming . Keep your politics out of gaming

[@MarzSanctum]

well where the hell is China GTA 6

[@RinkoCH-sg3kl]

sleeping dogs

[@MarzSanctum]

@@RinkoCH-sg3kl That came out before GTA V and was made by Western developers. Then published by Japan lul

[@m4hunt3r47]

we need china cyberpunk that would go hard ngl

[@Chopzi11a]

China only clones what’s going to be good…

[@themurmeli88]

That wouldn't work, because the game would be a nightmare scape, because no-one could drive, and you'd have snipers on every roof.

[@thejazzcolossal8157]

something to note is that, paladins was in production prior to overwatch. It's a shame that they get called the clone when they started much earlier then them

[@sirrdapo1882]

Yeah which is crazy cause paladins is better then Overwatch

[@Father518]

I like paladins and blizzard is a garbage company but overwatch is leagues better than paladins ​@@sirrdapo1882

[@AmeVIRUS_]

she skipped over the fact that that piano tiles game is also a clone of smule magic piano (at least the way it's branded anyway. i can't speak for how it feels to play)

[@SThrillz]

People keep yapping about China copying this and copying that, that's how the world has always worked, copying means you get to learn quick and catch up, that's what has always happened. It's the same stuff people were saying about cars and phones and now here we are. People like to act like all the games out there are unique, it's all copies of one another. The main point people should be focused on is the fact that copies mean people are learning rapidly. When you go and learn programming what's the first thing you learn? Is it not how to print "Hello World"? Well think of it as the Chinese learning Hello World on a larger scale

[@HamsammichesTv]

Cloning games would just reduce the value original works. Who wants to play the same game 300 times over other then gatcha and battle royales.

[@erenmos]

Funny of you to assume that western devs are full of original ideas, recent years have proven the opposite

[@IHeaRvOices-cy3os]

............................... This is where I have to ask you to just take a single glance at the gaming industry and it's consumers.

[@mazz85-]

World of Warcraft: "Hold my beer"... Lets just call it mythics, right ? >.>

[@teratas01]

Fifa, NFL and Call of Duty? yup, every year release same game with full price

[@kd-fw5kp]

Exactly, no one wants to play the same game 300 times. But why are they receiving good market? Cuz they are not just cloning, they are improving it, that’s why the player base is willing to give up their accumulation and move to a new game.

[@mingzheli6650]

As a native Chinese, I can confirm that most of the video presents factual information. However, the narrative feels incomplete because it lacks the perspective of Chinese players on these facts. Tencent is widely regarded by Chinese gamers as a 'bastard copier,' 'motherless sucker,' and 'the best game company in the world' (said with sarcasm). Additionally, MiHoYo, the developer of Genshin Impact, faces criticism for blatantly mimicking influential games, especially Breath of the Wild. Most PC and console gamers in China look down on these developers’ copying practices. In response, a small group of elite, ambitious, and responsible game developers left companies like Tencent, driven by a desire to create new, original, and respectable games for Chinese players, and, of course, for the world. Game Science was founded with the ambition to tear down the unhealthy, copycat-driven game development culture in China with an excellent game. Due to the poor game development environment filled with copycats and gambling designers, Game Science struggled with a lack of talent in 2019 to achieve their ambition. This is why they released the first gameplay of Black Myth: Wukong in 2020 (the wolf one), an uncommon move meant to attract like-minded developers and resources. Gamers were ignited with hope for escaping the previous subpar games upon seeing the first gameplay. However, other companies in the market did not support Game Science's aims, as they risked losing their easy-money business model. As a result, they offered higher wages to lure developers away from Game Science to halt the development of Black Myth: Wukong. This led Game Science's CEO, Feng Ji, to post on Weibo, '被舔到勃起不能,' meaning, 'All I want are those competent who can fight with me on this journey, but in front of me are too many useless lick-ups (candidate employees).' This statement was accused of misogyny by Rebekah Valentine. Ultimately, the decent side prevailed. Game Science successfully gathered more skilled and dedicated developers, and development resumed with great excitement. This is why they quoted '斗罢艰险又出发' ('After overcoming challenges, we set off again'), a famous line from the 1986 Journey to the West TV programme, at the end of the 2021 gameplay trailer (the white dragon one), along with the programme's theme playing in the background. The story of Game Science is an interesting footnote and analogy to the story of Journey to the West. The video Asmongold is watching attempts to cast a negative light on Chinese game developers, most of whom deserve it. However, these issues have persisted in China for two decades, and this 'person who appears female (how dare I presume their gender)' pointed them out two months before the release of Black Myth. It's definitely a better effort than Rebekah Valentine’s, which lacked facts. So, if you hate the truths presented in the video and want to help eliminate these phenomena, support Black Myth: Wukong. Game Science and Black Myth: Wukong aim to be the gravediggers of the issues highlighted in the video. You are a decent guy with brain Asmongold, I watched quite a few of your videos and basically agreed your analysis, pin me up.

[@kentho7093]

Believe it or not, actually China used to have a lot of good games when I was a kid, and they are my favourite memories even though I don't play chinese games anymore. Chinese Paladin, Meteor Butterfly Sword, Wulin Legend, Xuan-Yuan Sword, Storm Riders, and etc.

[@IncognitoActivado]

Question, which of those games could be considered a clone of Diablo I or Diablo II? I ask because I've been trying to find that game and haven't found it.

[@mengleang]

⁠@@IncognitoActivadowhile CSGO clone was MAT2 Online & AK2 Online

[@littlebee6023]

這一堆都是台灣遊戲吧，分類上大概是日式RPG

[@littlebee6023]

台灣人愛看武俠小說又超愛日式RPG，當時做出一堆這類的遊戲

[@IncognitoActivado]

@@mengleang Even if I appreciate your answer, I was talking about Diablo clones (I or II); not CS:GO.

[@Mista_Cassla]

China Numba #1 😂 (good ole Pug G days)

[@kagamitaiga7055]

pubg isnt copied though tencent asked permission from bluewhale krafton then made mobile verison of it ...krafton gets shares of money from pubgmobile games also gets fame you can see when opend big krafton logos shown

[@chillstep4life]

For all we know she could be funded by Sweet Baby Inc.

[@TrackMediaOnly]

Even if that were the case what she said wasn't wrong. Though given the reasonableness of what she said I would highly doubt it. She didn't once call someone a bigot and I don't think they can say three words without doing that at least twice.

[@AZ-rg3rf]

Shes a shill from the CIA

[@rspystudio]

bro, copying happens everywhere, a bit too political i would say, its the same when you look at japanese games or mobile games in general

[@spicysausage8805]

This was gaming in the 90's really. Successful games had like 20 clones with minor variations and it was glorious.

[@metalvideos1961]

Thats why alot of FPS games where called a Doom clone back in the 90s.

[@rvreqTheSheepo]

We still have Metroidvanias

[@IvorineDJ]

Cloning does not necessarily mean getting the same result. Metastasis was a clone of Breaking Bad and it was honestly such a poor 4/10 that it's not even worth looking into it for nothing more than memes about how poorly executed it was. In that same way, I can't imagine China's plan to clone the gaming industry will work for the better. If anything it will just end up showing how poorly thought out the idea is from the idealogues that push it and will make Non-Chinese video games still the centerpiece of Chinese consumers that are into video games.

[@alexejvornoskov6580]

Well their cloning did work pretty good for the better of all gamers - their successful LoL clones for mobile for example lead to LoL: Mobile being developed. Without clones(and Riot being purchased by Tencent) there would be no MOBAs on phones or tablets. Or MMOs and many other game genres, that western companies didnt even think of briging to mobile. Nobody was actually hurt by their clones(beside having to suffer from some really bad ones), as nobody even tried to target some of the markets in first place(or didnt bother to release game in China). Its a crime - but its pretty much a victimless crime.

[@IvorineDJ]

@@alexejvornoskov6580 True but that's mobile, a market that was untapped before. What about on the older platforms? PC, PS and Xbox? I think that's where they'll end up short imo.

[@Mephitinae]

Cloning doesn't mean the result is bad either. Palworld cloned all the popular genres in one game, and it was a massive success.

[@IvorineDJ]

@@Mephitinae They didn't clone it...They borrowed/copied certain aspects and made their own version of it. They didn't do a copy-paste like Metastasis did with Breaking Bad. Cloning means that you make an identical copy of something. Palworld has not had any sort of identical copy of anything.

[@alexejvornoskov6580]

@@IvorineDJ Chinese have nearly no presense in this outside of China itself, they dont even try to sell them abroad. And only reason they trive in China is because most games arent ready to make changes to apply for Chinese regulations, so vacuum in gaming space is created, that then is filled by chinese clones. But if your game is good AND is released in China, then its becomes a success that doesnt have to fear any clones. So once again - nobody is being hurt. Alternative are pirated copies like it was the case before global releases back in 90s and early 2000s all over the world. You dont lose any money from a product that you dont sell in first place.

[@ethandickerson5044]

"I didn't steal your meme, I discovered it." - Colombus (Probably)

[@honkai8692]

I dont think asmongold realised china and the us are doing ai innovation differently, china is the single most industrial country in the world period, their ai projects mostly revolved around ai in industy, ai in manufactures, whereas the us are doing ai stuffs in the office, ai generating picture, ai deep learning, ai accelerating software, etc. They are completely different path for ai and currently we dont know who is the more "correct" way of doing it, who can potentially ignite another"industral revolution"

[@howardlam6181]

nah tencent has plenty of AI technology in imaging as well. The face enhancement AI for live streaming for example comes from China. There are also things like face monitoring system. A lot of things in the office for certain.

[@Chemike21]

I see no problem with cloning. Its been happening for literally all human history. One tribe saw a bow and arrow, and do you think they will not use it because of ethics and then try and create their own weapons? No. If it works, and they can re create it, they will. That is not a problem. As long as you provide greate customer service and upgrades, you will still be on top. This is what companies should do instead of complaining and whining. You can't escape copies of good ideas. Also many people get the same ideas for so many things and just because one person made it first shouldn't restrict another person in some other place to create something very similar. Ideas have major limits and can only go so far. Often similar ideas are born when 2 people who are completely isolated see a specific problem or are influenced in a similar way. There have been studies of this. For example, in one study, they got a few artists and drove them through the city without telling them why they are doing it. Then they asked the artists to paint a picture. Guess what happened? Most of the artists end up painting a very very similar painting of the things that were placed on rout specifically to catch their attention. All of the artists thought their painting was original to them and was their own thoughts expressed.

[@Trumpo3522]

The lady also omitted many details, Tencent asked Riot first to make League Mobile because it was an untapped market, Riot said "No, mobile moba is a**" so Tencent made their own, and they were correct, not long after Moonton made Mobile Legends, this happens because Riot refuse to acknowledge mobile potential. Also TFT, Riot's Autochess originated from DOTA Autochess, which were made in the DOTA version by Chinese devs. Sometimes Riot is quick to steal, sometime they're too laid back.

[@jasonkeju8174]

In the 1990s, many of us already owned PCs with modem dial-ups, allowing us to play games like Warcraft, Dune, Command and Conquer, and Doom. However, in China, most households only started acquiring PCs in the mid-2000s. Despite the recent shutdown of many Western game developers and even giants like Blizzard facing challenges, the new studios emerging in China have been doing an exceptional job. If you look at their animation, called donghua, you'll notice they have a distinct identity and cultural difference from Japanese anime. Additionally, their CGI is world-class, often surpassing Western cartoons. They are setting new market standards, so it's no surprise if they excel in game creation as well.

[@左先生-b2p]

Wow, you really did your homework my friend.

[@jasonkeju8174]

@@左先生-b2p I didnt do any homework. I'm just an old school gamer and i travel alot :) At the same time a fan of animation.

[@YSKWatch]

I watched lots of donghua, the last 1 year the quality increased tremendously. most of them using mocap, the movements are so natural.

[@aligator2150]

No more woke bs games? Where do i have to sign?

[@JackMarcuson]

based

[@ajkulac9895]

I've been a gamer for a while now, never had top play a woke bs game. What do you mean?

[@tantank]

Most of these woke games are from big companies, but have you ever heard of indies / small companies?

[@kokocaptainqc]

@@tantank yeah they make games that i already played in the 80s...

[@aligator2150]

@@tantank Not all big companies are woke, and yes i also play indies. But if woke politics get away from the videogames market, you have no idea of how good the games would be, especially the AAA ones. Same happens with films and series.

[@ARMsIGnition]

i remembered that pokemon plagiarized game in China have better attack animation than gamefreak pokemon who have same general animation for past 10 years🤣

[@jjsamuelgunn1136]

that's not cloning. that's evolution. 😆

[@PiKangNa]

Tencent offered us funding enough for 4 games in the series when we are in beta stage on our first game. 😅 it was that aggressive.

[@mikesull8603]

My favorite quote from Booker T in WWE as commentary. “If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying.”

[@Chengyuan79]

i see wrestling comment, I upvote. +1 😅

[@Striker9]

There's a line between theft and being inspired. I have no clue where it is though.

[@GeorgeMonet]

It is a simple test. Inspired copies the IDEA. Theft copies the assets and code.

[@АлександрБычков-к4н]

@@GeorgeMonet so, none of these chinese clones are theft then.

[@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681]

mostly copied, but some of them are not just copy the idea, they improved it. Just like how Stardew inspired by harvest moon but they make it better, that's why it become more popular, but the one that only 1:1 copy usually not that popular. People usually want something similar but different taste.

[@whiteawhite123]

在披萨里加入咖喱是“being inspired”，在米饭里加入咖喱是“theft”🤣

[@aymen9000]

ولماذا يهتم اللاعب بجنسية الالعاب والشركات؟ المهم ان يستمتع باللعبة وان لا تكون شركة جشعة

[@Evolixe]

You can't get ahead when you're always following the leader 🤷‍♂

[@john_hunter_]

Like how Fortnite switched to being a battle royale because it was popular at the time?

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

You learn from the leader then you usurp them.

[@shaiona]

Ever heard of a race?

[@B4nana888]

The should function without a leader. Just like the mighty USA. Oh wait? Is Biden the president ?

[@momel7993]

Just steal other people's product and buy a leader,with YOUR MONEY.

[@alexandercastleberry480]

They can’t clone the games I play. Censors won’t allow it. Hentai for freedom, baby!

[@oompalumpus699]

Ummm... Chinese hentai knock-offs are a thing

[@donlokatme]

wukong allmost made me break my dont pre order rule im so hyped for it big fan of journy to the west

[@HalseyHFW]

Clone their entire clone industry. Problem solved.

[@BussinandDiscussin]

It may seriously come to that. I wonder if we will just get angry and start copying everything they do and try to steal anything they invent someday.

[@erickli4329]

The west has no chance out-cloning china's cloning industry while woke people and ai rejection is still a thing

[@newjerseyjustin]

then we will be left with nothing but regurgitated shit games

[@justaguy4019]

​@@BussinandDiscussinlet the clone wars begin

[@zozozozozizizizi]

Solving the problem is very easy: just ban their products here.

[@Surrealo0101]

Thumbnail deserves an award by itself

[@MushramboMu]

China games seem pretty popular around the world Genshin impact Azure lane Honkai Impact And more. Recently i noticed that china had a old video game of final fantasy

[@GBR9794]

the problem is those game's art styles looks too similar, almost like they just use the same artists for every game.

[@jeffbolton2986]

​@@GBR9794and still selling..they know what the market wants..and now we got wuthering waves..zzz.. and maybe project mugen in future..

[@shinsekai101]

Oh mai gad anime girl looking similar 😂

[@GBR9794]

@@shinsekai101 that's why I started following BTS LMFAO 🤣

[@shinsekai101]

@@GBR9794 tbf korean male and femalr idols, also female actresses, especially younger one are also almost similar to each other and you know exactly why

[@Singularity-v5q]

Damn china even checks the games people play yet here in USA we allow anyone in from the border😮 definitely feels like they're should be a middle ground 🤔 You

[@SweatnCancer]

I love how people still to this day claim paladin's is a overwatch clone when paladins was in development before overwatch and someone from the paladins team had left and joined the overwatch team

[@Ralathar44]

Overwatch is bigger, therefore clearly the other is a clone.

[@SweatnCancer]

@@Ralathar44 whichever was made first is the og anything after is a clone that's how it works

[@SweatnCancer]

@@Ralathar44 if you made a device and I copied the device entirely and changed a few things it doesn't now make yours not the original mine may be better as it's an improvement on the og or a different take on it but it's origins is still that of a clone

[@SweatnCancer]

@@Ralathar44 which being a clone is perfectly fine btw what overwatch does it's amazing but it's origins is it copied from paladins which was designed before overwatch they just took from paladins what worked and made a better product

[@orionmedivh5859]

Everyone copies everyone until there's nothing to copy. That's just the sad truth of capitalism.

[@qwertyrewtywyterty]

not gonna happen, new ideas will always come from boredom. even when that new ideas is copied before released. the copy is still a new idea

[@mujahidhasan118]

Sigma China Giga China

[@SCS012GP]

Team huawei

[@Lyuze]

Bruh, they said paladins ripped off overwatch. Paladins was in development much earlier, and overwatch is a rip of global agenda, the game that hi rez made before paladins. Wild

[@michaeltaylor1657]

"You tellin me obama fried this chicken?!"😂

[@JinqiHou]

That was a joke on the Photoshop，not exist

[@claudiosalvatico58]

"Then it was China." "Now it is AI." "Put them together and it is the final form."

[@garethmccullough]

the irony of asmongold talking about people stealing content the guy has made a career of stealing content

[@JSG-m1t]

What I hate about AI is that it’s trying to replace the fun part of game making such as making concepts and designs. The hideous part of game making such as modeling and re-topology are left for humans 😂

[@Sphynra]

Modeling is the best part though, especially the high-resolution models where you can go completely bonkers with the detail and elevate it beyond the concept art. For me this feels like the most artistic part of the process by far. I agree retopo is boring but the principles are intuitive enough. For me the true nightmare is rigging, it's what put me off of 3D animation and making games forever.

[@JSG-m1t]

@@Sphynra oh yes I left rigging out, that’s the worst and AI should help with that

[@Bud_Buddha]

@@JSG-m1t They are, at least unreal 5 has done some work to make rigging humanoid models easier and faster with "AI". Also they can do generate large areas of a map quickly, which you can then fine tune yourself afterwards, so you can still do the fun part of the work.

[@dionysusmclaren12]

"Losers copy, winners steal!"😂😅

[@hydra1a574]

The original video is very bad tbh, full of bias and objective opinions, selectively picked bad examples for reference

[@jianxianlee5892]

To play some of the 3A banned Steam games, many Chinese players would rather use VPN and become other country's citizens, Argentina is especially popular among them since their game prices are lower than in the Chinese area. Many Chinese are hyped to see black myth wukong, since they really want to play Chinese 3A games, but some are also scared since they are being scammed by many Chinese developers all these years.

[@Cathay_Dragon]

fake, Chinese id can buy 3A games

[@yuqiluo422]

thats before, argentina is much cheaper,

[@VaibhavShewale]

i dont copy i just enhance it

[@frenzii8332]

That obama fried chicken caught me off guard

[@NotBrye]

Lmao... whose making this video game? Is it ethical? Meanwhile the games on our market is about murder, rape, vandalism, etc.

[@MercyfulAlex]

What would you choose? A game where you play men with bras while having anti gamer messages Orrrrr A game with similar gameplay and mehanic while having a cute or sexy waifu who is saying how awesome and great you are To me it looks like Chinese game companies won't be plagiarizing but surpassing

[@pboytrif1]

The saddest part about all this is that china will eventually own everything, but in doing so they will kill all genuine creativity. Anyone game developer that had a genuine thought, idea or concept, will have lost their income to these mega-cloning corperations. Games will have no originality --- and actually we are almost there right now. Notice how most of the best games are coming from very small indie companies? Its only a matter of time...

[@АлександрБычков-к4н]

what China has to do with your games being woke and empty for a decade now?

[@pboytrif1]

@@АлександрБычков-к4н look into who owns the companies that makes these games and you will see that 95% are owned by a china super corp already

[@jiamin9868]

If you have studied materialism, you will know that if any country's industry wants to develop, it must have a process of imitation and learning. This is a process of quantitative change leading to qualitative change. I think when China's game industry becomes saturated, their games will The pursuit of independent innovation will lead to competition in the new game industry. Maybe the West will ban some game development engines from being used in China, or maybe China will develop a brand new game engine or even a large game model. As a consumer For us, this is definitely a good thing!

[@dan4500]

Beginning of movies back in the 90's:"You wouldn't download/copy a movie would you?" China: *looks nervously* "N..N...Noo?"

[@lordtraxroy]

Ngl the documentary is filled with wrong information i have to likely say china can make great games see genshin impact

[@ghostcat9588]

"Opium of the mind" only really applies to heavily monetized games. P2W games gets a lot of people addicted to them. It's like a virus in the games industry.

[@kevinscales]

"only really applies to heavily monetized games" source - my ass

[@simpleserpent1337]

Sure, bud, WoW vanilla wasnt addictive at all, right?

[@ghostcat9588]

@@kevinscales If i really have to explain...they specifically said Opium. If you're familiar with the opioid epidemic, you'll realize how much of a problem it is. These developers sees video games as some kind of drug they can make money from by keeping the players addicted. I got addicted to playing assassin's creed 2 but I didn't have to spend thousands of dollars after buying it.

[@ghostcat9588]

@@simpleserpent1337 Never really got attached to WoW. Subscribing to play a video game never really appealed to me.

[@simpleserpent1337]

@@ghostcat9588 but a lot people are found it addictive to the point that it was called digital heroin or something

[@MrBizaaro]

I don't know why but she has that condescending I am better than you face.

[@smoothlyrough512]

With the serious lack of creativity, isn't EVERY game just a clone of a previous game? Yes, the answer is yes.

[@GeorgeMonet]

No. Inspired by and CLONE are VERY different. One is someone liking an idea and creating their very own version from scratch. Cloning is when you take the direct assets and code and then slightly change them.

[@АлександрБычков-к4н]

@@GeorgeMonet what's the difference between starship troopers, starcraft and warhammer 40k?

[@user-wr6dj4ib9o]

if they gonna do it well then by all means let them do it if you're gonna be getting same game as western games but without microtransactions and wokeness then let it happen lmao

[@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914]

>"i never meant to be infidel! I simply meant to pass on my genes to offsprings...go forward and procreate"

[@pauliePwalnuts]

People don't understand that China may feel pressured to get to markets fast, but are just fine with taking it slow when it comes to becoming a global power. They waited over 100 years to take Hong Kong and have plans to take #1 position globally.

[@yuluoxianjun]

100 years is just a little deal

[@metalvideos1961]

they have no plans in being number one. all China wants is a world that works together to make the world a better place. its the US who doesnt want to work together with China and spread anti China propaganda in this world. China never wanted to be the number 1 economy in the world. but the US is destroying itself little by little. China can just sit back and see the US go under. so with that China will automatically be the number 1 Economy in the world

[@Sonic557]

They didn't "take" hk. HK was leased to the UK for 99 years as part of a treaty. It was returned to China when that treaty expired.

[@pboytrif1]

China is a beautiful place, but the way they go about things is dark, controlling and kinda scary. There’s almost no ethics or morality in a lot of basic things there… it’s about using and getting the most out of things. Dark dark place

[@tnndll4294]

its truly 1984 in China.

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

Yeah I am sure u are totally trustable u lol bot

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

​@@tnndll4294 1984 = usa 2024

[@zmibbles]

​@@jacksmith-mu3eespoken like a CCP bot 😂

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

@@zmibbles cia bot spotted . Ccp doesn't make games lossr. And ccp in florida ? Lol How many games have GOP created by your logic ? Is cod , assassins Creed made by lawmakers ? U graduated in kindergarten didn't u lol.

[@jaytang8192]

if you are minor, and pay to vtuber money like super charge, the parents can request refund.

[@shadowfury8403]

Overwatch released first yes, however Paladins was in development a year before overwatch was… in fact I believe it came to alpha/beta before overwatch as well.

[@MrLonelybusiness]

there are research on Chinese government limiting children play time, according to research it did not have an impact on play time. Children used someone else's ID and played anyway

[@nep7nep7]

teenagers can just borrow the ID and phone form their grandma(who alway glade to),they can be indentified as an adult in games. i think its a classic policy rebalance.

[@metalvideos1961]

what you say is BS. yes they did limit the game time and it did show that it works. not what you said.

[@WinJok-em3us]

能不能拿到成人身份证，就要看大人的意愿了，有的监护人不介意孩子多花点时间玩游戏。

[@sakura7431]

what a Sinophobia prooagabda piece.

[@jeremyrichard2722]

There is some bad information here, so I wanted to correct it, this will be long as it includes some explanation. Anyone interested in this, as it's a serious matter, and goes beyond gaming, should read further, despite the length. The first thing people in the US should be learning is the situation with China. China represents roughly 1/3rd of the human population, and has generally been culturally backwards and stagnant. While responsible for many innovations in the ancient world they did not do anything for a long time, earning them the name "The Sick Men Of Asia". This is why when in an old Bruce Lee movie, when Bruce beats up an entire Japanese martial arts school, he says "We are not sick men", it's a reference to that title. At any rate China's economy is also a lie, a permitted fiction due to the number of people living there. See due to it's constant problems China wound up in a massive amount of debt, especially to Britain. The Emperor, realizing this, started to embrace more and more western ways, and do whatever he could to pay off China's debt and progress Chinese civilization. This however had tremendous negative impact in a nation known for it's concept of "face", and formed the impetus for Mao to lead his communist revolution, largely based on the horror of realizing that they had that much debt. The problem is that for international trade to work, a coup, or change of government, does not erase the debt of that people. Various African nations and large parts of South and Central America have this problem as well. Basically a new regime becomes responsible for the debts of the old regime, plus any thy incur, otherwise countries would just have coups or something every so often to get out of debt to other nations and the whole system of international trade couldn't work. The massive debt Mao's revolution caused, on top of what they already owed created a situation where basically even a massively progressed China could not pay it all off before the sun explodes. Seriously, it owes that much considering everything when you compute it. I'm not even getting into things like Warlord Bonds to explain part of that, as some of those are worth like a couple Trillion that China owes from that whole period when you consider penalties. As this is 1/3rd of the population, special provisions were made to handle China, and pretty much not call them on that debt, allowing them to lift 1/3rd of the population out of abject poverty by allowing them to participate in global trade despite everything. The idea was that a more prosperous China will lead to social and cultural reforms, and then China could basically come and bend the knee to G7, and trade debt forgiveness and such for concessions in joining the world stage properly. It was a humanitarian thing. The problem is that as China became more prosperous it did things like implement a national firewall, and turn into a sort of commie-siege state, and actually become worse in all the areas it had problems with instead of better, with a leadership even more obsessed with face. It does things like refuse to acknowledge international patent and copyright laws, and has been knocking off products, right down to labels, since the 80s where we started to call it a "Robber Economy", but even when weak the idea of killing as many people it would take and ending their prosperity was against the more humantarian views of the west. Video games are just one of the more recent things really, I remember when it first was invented that knock off viagra was a huge thing as were drugs in general. The real problem is, we allow them to use the global market, and have never enforced the rules of that market like having to acknowledge things like intellectual property rights. This is why things have been so bad with the east and west, especially as countries like the US pivoted towards an innovation and service based economy, with the idea being the manufacturing nations like China were supposed to only take a percentage as opposed to just knocking off the products and making their own. To be fair, the video is correct that "knock offs" have always been a thing, but realize that there have always been rules about intellectual properties and such that most people don't realize, and things haven't been as blatant as what China does as everyone was playing by those rules. The issue right now is not that anyone thinks China could actually stop The West from just removing the CCP from power, things like the AEGIS system (look it up, it's basically nuke interception on ships ) could really prevent the threat of their nuclear arsenal, the problem is the humanitarian issue of having to kill as many people as it would take to break the fanatics supporting the CCP. The problem also is compounded by the fact that as China did become more prosperous, even with all the people there that are basically slaves, your still looking at one of the biggest markets in the world. Anything that is going to rely on low end volume sales, like movie tickets or video games, can move a LOT of units there as they have more people than any western market. Thus you have a lot of business people who are beyond ideology as they are so rich they don't have to worry about what everyone else does, who pretty much don't care what China does, or even if it knocks a lot of stuff off, as long as they can sell units of their product to China, and take advantage of the slave population it maintains to have stuff made to sell in yet other markets. It's a case where you can see the problem with capitalism causing a lot of bad thing to happen, even for the capitalists themselves, simply because there is lots of money to be made in the short term. Now, a lot of people, generally right wingers, have been arguing that we need to isolate China, much like we did with The Middle East. It's hard though as a lot of very rich people, many huge political donors, want that market open, and don't care what they do. Even say cutting off trade for them for say 5 years would simply cost too many rich people too much money, even if it would get them to back down. Understand though that in their case to make it work there would also be humanitarian concerns like say not providing food while they starve (there is a reason China tries to invest in foreign agricultural land... including in the US), and needing to shoot down any planes, boats, or whatever trying to leave China... and make their national firewall something other than a form of isolation they contorl, and rather forcing them out of the loop with everything. To be fair it's quite doable, but the threat of China's military is simply a paper tiger used to try and justify the real reason for not taking action due to the amount of money that can be made. There is also the issue that a lot of global economies rely on Chinese debt (like it or not) for their own economies. For example the USA is actually owed far more money by China than it owes to China, it's just that the CCP tries to not acknowledge this, and of course what it owes the Brits is far more than that. For those who didn't pay attention at the time, the whole reason why Hong Kong was turned over to China as per previous agreement despite what the people there wanted was simply because it was agreed to. If Britain had refused, or America had intervened, China could then have argued that since we were violating agreements like that, they could claim they don't have to honor the debts they incurred to those countries, which could cause other problems in the long game being played here as action becomes increasingly needed. Basically the end goal for any leader who knows what they are doing is to pretty much get China to bend the knee and join the civilized world on the same terms as everyone else, which of course the CCP doesn't want. Hence the attempts at diplomacy, but that whole elephant in the room of how much they owe is always going to be an issue to a bunch of people obsessed with face and perception. Xi isn't going to fall to his knees before G7, but realize as the belligerence increases, eventually he's going to start a war by not doing that as if things like this video game knock off plan (another trillion dollar industry) happen eventually people are going to have no choice but isolation, regardless of what Corpos want, or military invasion... and yeah, China realizes it can't stop that latter one, but it likes to rattle it's sabers to pretend the situation is different, when in reality it knows it needs nations like North Korea as a trip wire, and doesn't even have the ability to take Taiwan if it wanted to despite screaming for generations it was going to force that issue. You notice that for all the cries of peace, how seriously Pelosi took their threats when she landed there. The sad truth is that while they have some good tech, when it comes to most stuff, it's largely fake. I remember when they had a rail gun mounted on a ship "like the one in that transformers movie, except real" and then they test fired it, and had it rip off it's mounting and kill half the crew. That was a while ago, but well... yeah... there are some reports their new rifles are even worse than the original version of the M-16 that was in 'Nam.

[@aglis_]

ain't no one gonna read your incoherent word salad. Save it for Reddit, you'll get upvoted like crazy and might get some gold for it, they enjoy Sinophobic rantings.

[@jeremyrichard2722]

@@aglis_ Do you even know what Sinophobic actually means? I mean really meeans? But yes, a bit too long for here, but I re-read it, and given my issues that's actually pretty coherent. I ran it by some other people as well. I mean you can do the Ra-Ra China thing all you want, but that's just statements of fact and history. To be Sinophobic you'd have to hate the Chinese people themselves, and this is more a statement on their current behavior, and unlike a Sinophobe you'd notice there is a point about bringing them into the rest of the world community as the end game of everything mentioned. That said I assume it's beyond your reading comprehension level to figure any of that out. Mostly I posted that for anyone who might be interested in the behind the scenes stuff. I don't expect a lot of responses or thunsb ups on KZbin as it goes beyond most people's willingness to read here, but I do things like this out of a feeling of obligation... and it also gives me a chuckle to put the truth in front of them. I figure most younger people don't remember the calls for military intervention during the HK takeover, and later when the protests picked up, and the explanations as to why. Likewise Pfizer calling for the US to intervene on the violation of their patent for Viagra was big news for a while, and also reinforced a lot of this, it's just older news, and they spelled out the patent violations and the humantarian reasons why we couldn't exactly start a real war or a trade war right then and there. Basically you can't save The Chinese People by killing them all, and the CCP hasn't become enough of a genuine threat to force our hand, they are just really annoying, and as pointed out we do make a lot of money off of this indirectly as well. At a certain point though it might become needed to say the poison is too deep, the people will never overcome the CCP, and then having to do whatver it takes to reform China at gun point at great humanitarian cost. Not doing anything right now is sort of our justification if that happens later, as we can show how restrained we were under massive provocation. Right now they are giving us an excluse to pretty much isolate them and/or level their society. This means later if we do have to do that we can go down the list, which will include things like this, and explain that is why we're carpet bombing brain washed Chinese and digging the CCP officials out of the rubble of Beijing.

[@neetmur]

Interesting read, thanks. And very coherent.

[@neondystopian]

If developers in my country refuse to give me what I want, perhaps my adversaries will.

[@GhostLyricist]

Lady, this is called game development. China isn't special.

[@kylespevak6781]

21:32 it's been movies forever too

[@silencer2005]

What's wrong with buying companies? Blackrock does it all the time

[@tonylai6702]

Typical western world double standards period.

[@ondrez5114]

Many Asmon reactions across years are "People don't care about the ethical, they just want good stuff for themselves". That is true, but not for all. And Asmon having a large follower base should come to understand that he could positively influence people as well. The capitalist world is what it is, but sometimes you can make a small conscious decision to make it a tiny bit better.

[@Ralathar44]

He's just being realistic. You're right that minority exists but not enough to be anything more than a speedbump for the majority.

[@lingricen8077]

Ah the obligatory “blame china” video, right on schedule 🙄

[@ocean44432]

Your social credit score went down 500 points

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

But your bank credit score remains same lol

[@theploot8230]

China gaming giant! Don't mess with the Dragon. 💪😎

[@kms199x2]

I'm rooting for China, let's gooo!! 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🥳🥳🥳