Chinese leather patcher sewing machine Industrial Upgrade / Blacksmithing

Chinese leather patcher sewing machine Industrial Upgrade / Blacksmithing
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Link to motor
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[@omenandowl]

You turned this into an essential piece for the shop! What a great design. Your attention to detail is to be commended here, well done!

[@jbodiers6572]

Nice job ! I was getting ready to drop mine off in the trash can. I need one more,but cash holding me back this maybe the answer. I’m giving this one a try. Thanks big DOG!

[@chrisborona544]

Thank you

[@Michael-vp4zt]

Magic.

[@vidlover81]

Excellent video. Great narration and editing. I learned a lot.

[@fryscountrylifechannel4437]

Excellent video!

[@BIGDOGFORGE]

Thank you very much!

[@burtlade1705]

Good Job! I hope you don't mind if I use a few of your ideas. I plan to use a gear reduction wheel chair motor and a Variac + a DC power supply. The machine is on order so it's just a matter of a bit of work. I won't need a belt or pulleys so the output of the wheelchair motor will hook directly to the back of the machine. Like yours, it will have plenty of power , geez, I can't wait! Thank You!

[@MrTypepatrick]

Burt Lade - Sounds like a great idea? How did your motor work out?

[@burtlade1705]

@@MrTypepatrick Thanks for asking. I'm still using it manually at present.

[@Spectt84]

WOW! Just...WOW! I just stumbled across your channel while researching these hand crank machines. That was amazing. Awesome job. I would argue, that setup is BETTER than those $2000-$3000 industrial leather sewing machines. If there is a malfunction it is easy to see, work on, tweak, etc. If those advanced computerized industrial machines need work, you basically need to bring it to a professional or go get an engineering degree to understand how they work.

[@BIGDOGFORGE]

This machine Is perfect for my application and I think a lot of other folks could benefit from it as well. Thanks for watching

[@happydays454]

Good build i wish i had one

[@pintsizedadventures6282]

I totally could hear tim Allan's tool time more power sounds when you were talking about a bigger motor 😆

[@NinjaHempKnight]

I've been on the fence about buying one of these for a while but after seeing the way you slowed that machine down to make it so controllable I believe I may have to pull the trigger on it.

[@MainelyAcresFarmBrooks]

When I get some extra time I am going to change my set up to a servo motor. I am currently running a old sewing motor and your right they are hard to control. Awesome video!!

[@BIGDOGFORGE]

Very cool let me know if I can do anything to help. Thanks for watching and take care.

[@pacemetalfab]

Great video. With all the videos of this machine on KZbin I can imagine the the Chinese shops are busy cranking these machines out !!! The price is increasing daily. Thank you for you video.

[@dadratsforge]

That is fantastic. It looks almost Victorian industrial. Just superb!👍👍👍

[@penney304]

Thanks for sharing. I like your setup with the motor, I'm going to try it with my machine.

[@didtas]

EXCELLENT JOB.

[@kslam5733]

Very much impressed! You are so knowledgeable and experienced in doing such kind of modification. The big spool of thread on the machine would be too heavy for the bottom thread to grip. The top stitches would be too loose while the bottom stitches too tight!

[@gregorypoirier3256]

Good job I like it. I still do all my stuff by hand and you got my thinking about a patcher sewing machine. Thank you

[@applewoodthree]

You are my kind of creative hands on artist. Enjoyed the vid, but was a little frightened at times when I thought gloves might be in order. But your hands seem to have so for looked unscathed. Keep up the good work!

[@Akasha_Silver]

Best conversion I've seen.

[@pascualvasquezjr.6285]

You have quite the artistic flair Tim

[@tonybirdwell2917]

Great job there Big Dog!

[@heardashot]

Wow! What a great build. Fantastic job Tim. Very well done. Really enjoyed that. Now the most important thing. What's the new build's name??? Gotta get a name on her. Sewy? Tany?? Could have a little fun with this. Happy New year to you too! Greetings from Ireland. God bless & many thanks.

[@bretbeaubien1317]

dog puncher

[@ohmahgawdfilms]

I love this upgrade :)

[@MrPops880]

Great work, I need to make one for my cobbler machine, thanks for sharing Tim.

[@czaxsbaxs]

you are something special. thanks for all you do. keep it coming friend !

[@yoheff988]

Good job my man 👍 Does the walking foot leaves any marking on the leather surface?

[@michaelandersen5453]

Thanks I will keep this in the back of my mind for future purchase.

[@timravo5152]

This is the best video on this machine I`ve seen... You really gave it an upgrade and made the whole thing look as it should...Job . Well Done!!. I am going to watch your other uploads, as I am thinking of getting one of these would you say the stitch quality and stitch length precision is good enough? Cheers ;-)

[@BIGDOGFORGE]

Yes this machine is still working very well, and thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching.

[@kenh8979]

Good job with the motor conversion. what size thread and needle are you using?

[@mikeg3774]

Hey Big Dog! Great video. Can you share how you got all those parts so smooth and shiny? I got one of these recently and I've yet to find an effective way to remove all the black, crud that is stuck all over everything. I've done scrubbing, sanding, polishing, even muriatic acid and back to polishing and sanding and still no joy. What if I just cover some of the parts with spray paint, like the rocker arms, or whatever they're called?

[@BIGDOGFORGE]

I just used brake part cleaned in a spray can let it set for a minute and scrub with a wire brush. Good luck

[@mikeg3774]

@@BIGDOGFORGE Ahhh. Okay. I'll give it a try. Thanks, Big Dog!

[@andytrubridge5310]

Just brilliant love it...

[@joegarage6132]

Thanks for the work, looks like something that may work for me also. Good Job.

[@josepmamartorelligrau5855]

Happy new year from Catalunya

[@andrelozier5008]

Outstanding build, Tim! I love the way you think. I'm just like you. If I can't afford it, I most likely will build it. Take care Tim. HAPPY NEW YEAR!

[@bodeine454]

Wow! I am inspired now, great idea and good work, thank you!

[@thomasarussellsr]

Great build. That's one tough machine to sew three layers of fairly thick leather. Can't wait to see a sheath build with this beauty. Awesome job, SUB'd.

[@rodneygordner865]

Excellent job; by far the best conversion I have seen. Thanks so much for posting this.

[@firesurfer]

This is exactly the same thing I was going to say. So now I don't have to.

[@GaryWall]

@@firesurfer Me too

[@edgreywolf]

Update to using the machine? Still like it?

[@fireaterfromhell]

That servo motor is what really sparked my interest. Now that you've been playing with it for a little while, do you think it would be a good investment towards the 2"x72" grinder I need to make?

[@BIGDOGFORGE]

I think 1 size up

[@stageforgejon905]

Fantastic build! Looks like it could have been bought that way! 'Stitches' would be what id name it! Happy New Year Tim! My name is Jon soon to be Stage Forge! There's a meaning behind that. Once again Happy New Year!!

[@bretbeaubien1317]

dog puncher

[@stageforgejon905]

@@bretbeaubien1317 you talking to me??? If so we have a problem! I don't punch dogs!

[@devilsdenmetalworks1809]

very nice! Happy New Year Tim!!

[@georgethayer3533]

What size was the big pulley

[@Akasha_Silver]

@BIGDOGFORGE I have the same machine and would like to copy your conversion. Do you have a link to buy the drive shaft? I dont have tools to machine the shaft.Would you consider making / machining a drive shaft to sell,ready to go? Thanks

[@BIGDOGFORGE]

The parts links are in the disruption of the video that should help with motor. At the moment I'm very busy and would not be able to get to it for some time. If your willing to wait awhile I can but it's going to cost around 50 bucks to turn one And if your machine is not built the same as mine it could be a problem. Let me know. And thanks for watching.

[@Akasha_Silver]

@@BIGDOGFORGE Ok,thanks. Sounds good. Where can I PM you?

[@eazyrider6122]

Great video, Great job. I was wondering how i was going to do this. Can i ask what size thread and needle thread are you using to sew thick veg tan leather with this machine?. I think these machines can possibly use upto a 140/22 needle max and that needle can hold a #138 Thread. that can do medium 2-4oz leather and even 5-8oz. When you add 3 layers of 6oz how many stitches per inch do you get?. you don't want the stitches to small as it can perforate the leather. These machines only take a flat shank needle so a 140/22 is a big as it can go to needle wise. Round needle industrial machines can take 180 plus. 138/22 Bonded Nylon will be good for a wide range of stuff. but the bobbin is also small so either many rewinds or use a 92 thread for the under stitch but thats not real good for knife sheaths.

[@IslandMetalForge]

You can probably sew some wood together

[@tsasso6199]

Use a nail and a needle that's how I do it old school

[@OuroborosArmory]

Second or third the links to the items you used, especially the motor kit

[@donaldelrod5408]

Could you give us the source for the machine and motor? I have got to build me one.

[@alejandropino1318]

que grosor de material cose

[@BIGDOGFORGE]

Media pulgada o 13 mm gracias por ver

[@alejandropino1318]

que tiempo tiene su maquina? le sale oxido?

[@BIGDOGFORGE]

@@alejandropino1318 No he tenido óxido. Y he tenido la máquina durante 1 año

[@desertdan100]

How can I get this motor and the stitcher?

[@berndheiden7630]

desertdan100 Now seriously, it took me the better part of 25 seconds to scroll back to when he unboxed the motor, turned the package around and clearly showed the name „Enduro“, google that, saw the pictures (hey, yes, that‘s it!) and click on the first link: Surprise, it‘s Amazon! For 114.00 $ . It probably took you longer to post the question!!! If you cant figure that out, don‘t try to build that!

[@desertdan100]

I was watching on an old janky android phone with a scratched up screen while sitting in my truck waiting on a very long train to go by. I will watch it again from home when I get back.

[@CockatoobirdmanBill]

Talk about thinking outside the box I love it . if you need a name how about stichie or stich for short ,can you post the name or mod. # for the motor assy. i think you said you found it on the interweb i can find a use for one or two of them. Happy New Year to you and yours Be Well and Be safe in 2019 Bill

[@bretbeaubien1317]

dog puncher

[@XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX]

One of the best upgrades to this machine I've seen. Awesome!

[@workwithnature]

Liked watching that build Tim. The entire machine turned out really tidy.

[@AndTheCorrectAnswerIs]

Great build. As the owner of an actual Singer 29k patcher I'm really surprised that one of those cheap copy machines will go thru leather that thick...the old Singer won't. I actually have a couple old treadle sewing machine heads form the turn of the century that will sew thicker leather than the 29k. I hope people realize that those big butterfly tabs on the needle head are to turn the direction of the presser foot...so you don't have to turn the item being stitched, a major advantage of the patchers. Now I want one of the machines like you've got to add to my collection. For those doing lots of heavy leather work, and with the capital...I fully recommend the Cowboy 3200 which I use for belts, holsters, and sheaths.

[@stewartmarshall4112]

I made a 1/8 inch shorter foot on my Chinese patcher and it handles a full half inch stack of leather now. Needs a bigger needle to do that, due to the increased friction. I did the needle bar mod from the Facebook patcher group and now use 180/24 type S needles for 207 thread top and bottom. One thing I found when sewing this really thick stuff is the top thread needs tons of tension to pull the bottom thread up high enough into the leather, and to help this I also don't use the little tension spring in the bobbin carrier, for less lower thread tension. Of course a trade-off with bigger thread is that the bobbin holds less. But I make mostly small projects, heavy duty knife sheaths, holsters, similar stuff, so this is not an issue for me. To go up to a needle this big, I did have to file out the hole and groove in the arm a bit so the needle clears without touching when it descends.

[@angiedalrymple3123]

U are a pretty amazing guy I could hangout with ya and learn some stuff

[@ghostforge3303]

Hey Tim, What shaft size/diameter is that you used and what shaft size did you mill the brass side down to? I am looking really hard at doing your upgrade to my chinese leather patcher sewing machine

[@iamtheomega]

full on "made in Poland" level, truly amazing..my relative has a mid-'60s Janome sewing machine (japan...now china of course) that weighs 44 pounds !!! all mechanical stainless steel guts. She also has a new Brother that weighs 12 pounds. At the port of Seattle, foreign sources have been shipping in 'salted hides' (stacked in sheets) in 20 and 40 foot containers for decades. Probably brazil, maybe india, I dunno. But domestic sources of leather would be in the South. I would love to get some alligator hides and have that machine.

[@ewayne1527]

Other than cleaning how much work did you have to do to get the machine to work properly. I've read reviews where people spend hours grinding and polishing to make the machine work properly.

[@BIGDOGFORGE]

I only needed to clean it no other work was required. thanks for watching

[@Roadghost88]

All that work and parts must have added up. You can get a decent electric sewing machine for $500 that will sew leather.

[@BIGDOGFORGE]

But where's the fun in that?

[@anarchytelevision8445]

I really love my machine. I've been using my machine for a while. I have found that these things definitely need a little work straight out of the box, but they are user friendly easily, customizable and modifiable. I've done some customizing and modifying to my machine. I've also made a couple of videos showing what I have done. I'm always interested in seeing what other people have done to their machines and what they are doing with them.Thanks for taking the time to make the video😊

[@danielcrawford7315]

Hmmm. 4 of those voices in my head are discussing the degree to which I need this in my life...the other 3 are still arguing about if dolphins have bellybuttons....any body got Dan Marino's number? We think he should know! Great job mr. Tim Thank you for sharing and a blessed and prosperous new year to u sirSir, Crawford out

[@131dyana]

Real neat rebuild. Great job.

[@mohammedzeco8006]

Very very fantastic boy

[@macswanton9622]

You just gained another admirer. Good stuff

[@danielcorrea8168]

I understood the motor pulley is 2 1/2 inch, but didn't hear what size the bigger pulley is. Would you please tell me and where you bought your motor? Thanks.

[@eyuptony]

Brilliant setup. Great addition. Cheers Tony

[@ezoelbueno]

From brazil ok

[@eideticgoone7035]

If you wanted to slow it down just a little more, you can buy a smaller 45mm pulley on a 15mm keyed shaft for sewing servo motors. They are around $10.

[@lpjunction]

Just wonder if someone could come up with those 775/795/895 24V DC motor and gear down to drive this patcher.

[@gandrade1]

Hello, I am looking into purchasing a cobbler sawing machine. There a ton ton of brands to choose from. Which manufacturer did you purchase your machine from? Great video on the making of the stand and the motor upgrade. Thank you.

[@blackraven8805]

Brilliant!!!

[@annamaxflair]

love your set up, only got my little machine yesterday. once i get passed messing with the cleaning of it , i'll be adding a motor, won't be diving into all out modifications like many are but love what i see blacksmiths and millwrights doing with these patchers

[@umakramkafji1625]

Wow👍🏻🎂🍨🌺

[@jimkennedy3286]

Plan to copy your build, I really like it. Notice no new videos, what happened, hope you are well1

[@stretchmfe4913]

Super job! I had an old grinder stand and mounted the machine to a 4x4 block on an old butcher block cutting board and mounted to that. Works well and makes it portable for taking to bike rallys. Thanks for sharing your skills and fabrications.

[@rom65536]

I dare say that thing would sew your hand to a piece of sheet metal. Be careful with it, Tim!

[@davemacgyver573]

How has that China shoe patcher held up? Does it stitch reliably or have you had to make numerous modifications?

[@julioflores7022]

Saludos desde Perú tierra de los antiguos dioses precolombinos incaicos tierra de la maca kiwicha oca Quinua coca mashua y la papa.

[@hardwurkindaddy]

Totally love it! Dang I wish I'd grown up in your neighborhood, I bet you were a fun kid to have in the gang!

[@ma2728aldrtfl]

What is the diameter of the big pulley? Looks awesome, thanks.

[@MadDawg91108]

Awesome job, Tim. That will be a nice addition to the shop. It needs a name now........ Stitch?

[@bretbeaubien1317]

dog puncher

[@Euphroe]

@@bretbeaubien1317 I like 'Stitch'. ;-)

[@jeffsandling5981]

Awesome build! Do you have a link to where you bought the machine. I had all but given up on finding a machine at a reasonable cost for my needs and just go a different route. This is perfect Brother! Thanks for posting this Tim!!! Happy New Year!!!

[@rickeycallen]

Agreed I want to build something like this badly

[@tomcarlson3244]

Great stand that matches the matching. Now I have to look at the bandsaw fix.

[@jamesball7322]

Awesome job Links to the items that you used ?

[@jimhumphrey]

You can find these on Amazon and e-bay, Just google shoe patch machine. They are a rough copy of the old Singer 29K machine. They do get good reviews. Tim has taken the motor upgrade a bit ahead of what's out there now with the stepper motor. Clever guy that Tim! BTW the motor can be found here www.amazon.com/Enduro-Sewing-Machine-Motor-Electric/dp/B079P8RQRQ/ref=asc_df_B079P8RQRQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241954630226&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4838675991241383579&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011776&hvtargid=pla-424087884206&psc=1 I have used Enduro motors for a small lathe and I like them. Very smooth.

[@jamesball7322]

Jim Humphrey I have found the one I will go with ,thank you sir

[@robgoodsight6216]

It is a shame that I can give just one like! Wait...🧐...👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@scannerwhitney551]

Me too, best conversion i've ever seen, great job

[@WhiskeyNOOB69]

If I paid you 225$ to make me a table just like that and the motor attached would you do it

[@petersiliekrause2203]

Simply great! No bells, no whistles, all essential functions needed, for convenient sewing, built in the motor (good choice!), at a very affordable price. Looks, as if it does everything it’s supposed to, and the stand for it really turned out very nice 👍🏻 I wish my husband had more time and made one for me like this... *sigh* Regards from Germany, and keep up your beautiful work

[@mike-cl7pb]

Great stuff there seems to be a lot of people using and adapting these sewing machines.

[@ricardoalvarez7821]

Thanks for taking your time to explain all step by step..

[@atakdragonfly1675]

I close my eyes when watching welding... Even on videos.

[@earlhudson7759]

Like this video. Do you not need a leather needle for this machine?

[@AlexKall]

The best setups I've seen so far, well done! Good video!

[@johnalex3023]

Nice conversation! I’m looking into one of those sewing machines, any suggestions? They seem to range quite a bit in price from $100 to $260, and I don’t see any difference.

[@danielcrawford7315]

My vote for your singer upgrade would most likely be "Stitch " ? Lolololol

[@rjdean8913]

That is so cool. I am going to make my own now. Thanks for sharing 🙂

[@TonyUrryMakes]

Nice build! Question: would that motor work for a 2x72 belt grinder? Your thoughts?

[@saldelgado4411]

How can I get the same shaft and pulley? Do you sell em?

[@thetanster6036]

You're going to be on thetanster.com!