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@d-5037
@d-5037 2 жыл бұрын
The first rule of Vaush Pit is you don't talk about your car's extended warranty.
@falkorornothing261
@falkorornothing261 2 жыл бұрын
I am Jack's fained amusement.
@mielipuolisiili7240
@mielipuolisiili7240 2 жыл бұрын
The second rule of Vaush Pit is you don't talk about your car's extended warranty.
@RevolutionaryLoser
@RevolutionaryLoser 2 жыл бұрын
I like the reading that the Protagonist of Fight Club is a closeted homosexual and his exagerared performance of masculinity is his fantasy of what being a successful straight guy is. There are a lot of clues: he obesseses over male bodies, his ideal self that no one else sres wears a lot of affeminate apparel, he never actually shows any sexual attraction to Darla only his ideal straight self does, his hobbies are fashion and shopping from IKEA. The author of the novel is gay so I feel something of his experience is projected onto the Protagonist.
@whysocurious7366
@whysocurious7366 2 жыл бұрын
That makes sense :o
@CL-jw4ei
@CL-jw4ei 2 жыл бұрын
Interest in fashion and ikea = gay ? 😂😂
@danielhann4439
@danielhann4439 2 жыл бұрын
Have you read the new preface to the book? Palahniuk talks about what the book is really about and said hed get approached by people starting up fight clubs etc all the time injecting meaning. On one occasion he talks about how he was approached by a gay man on a flight who said something along the lines of 'thank you for writing something for the gay community and about how gay men share affection', his reply was 'yes, thats exactly what the book is about' He does however explain in reality that the plot is meaningless and that the subject was conceptual, each scene revolves around two principles 'something about brotherhood' and 'a story someone told me about a college experience'. I found it hilarious considering how much people read into the film.
@frostbite3318
@frostbite3318 2 жыл бұрын
@@CL-jw4ei yes
@BLooDCoMPleX
@BLooDCoMPleX 2 жыл бұрын
@@CL-jw4ei Yes, especially shopping from IKEA.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care about age ratings on video games and movies normally, but I do think Fight Club needs a maturity rating because the amount of teenagers who think Tyler's end goal is badass and correct is worrying. Yes he pointed out issues that needed to be solved, but the way he went about trying to solve it was wrong. Maturity is realising that.
@buttermypickle5054
@buttermypickle5054 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a video where a guy talked about Tyler specifically the Part where Tyler talks about how men have raised by single moms and the guy was so true! I was like how do you miss the point so hard? The point is that Tyler is a cult leader that takes advantage of people Tyler Contradicts himself Constantly in the movie. I swear right wingers have garbage media Literacy on media that makes fun of them.
@buttermypickle5054
@buttermypickle5054 2 жыл бұрын
Like*
@leosklein2573
@leosklein2573 2 жыл бұрын
Even the author of the book pointed that out. Same issue with the Punisher. Creator intended him to represent societal failures during a major crime wave. Someone to be understood but not emulated. Meanwhile you have a bunch of 10 IQ chuds soyfacing over the skull and extrajudicial murder.
@landuit8577
@landuit8577 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard and seen the people you're talking about, but when my HS friends and I watched the movie together, we spent the entire time mocking Tyler and the hypermasculinity in the movie. even though most of us are pretty masculine ourselves it seemed completely ludicrous.
@buttermypickle5054
@buttermypickle5054 2 жыл бұрын
@@leosklein2573 Same with part with the Neo taking the Red pill in The first Matrix movie it’s a Allegory for accepting your Trans. Now the Manosphere uses that part to justify their hated against women. It’s So sad seeing how popular these people are.
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck says it's funny to him that folks are up in arms over the censorship overseas because he's been dealing with his books being banned for a long time right here in the U.S. -- and he calls out Texas, in particular.
@moisuomi
@moisuomi 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t you right this comment already? You are noticeably a bot
@renardleblanc5030
@renardleblanc5030 2 жыл бұрын
Fight Club is like V for Vendetta, in that people can very easily take the wrong message from it, if they want to. My psychologist said that Fight Club was the most significant film of a generation.
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer V for Vendetta, mostly because the message is closer to how real revolutions happen. Yeah, an individual can spark it, but it's on all of us to make a difference. Also because it very clearly outlines specific traits of governments which cause people to rise up, not just someone being disaffected with society.
@jdprettynails
@jdprettynails 2 жыл бұрын
V for Vendetta, Fight Club and 1984 are films my conservative friend and I both love....but for VERY different reasons.
@pancakes8670
@pancakes8670 Жыл бұрын
Same thing with Starship Troopers. Holy shit that movie is misinterpreted so often.
@YaGirlZero
@YaGirlZero 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even have to watch it? I just have to say "it's an underrated masterpiece" pog
@M3G4FR34K
@M3G4FR34K 2 жыл бұрын
*Swoon* she said it's an underrated masterpiece, she might be the one
@travis8895
@travis8895 2 жыл бұрын
Heyyyyyyyy
@wolfernater
@wolfernater 2 жыл бұрын
Watch like a KZbin review of it so you understand the gist in case they try interrogating you.
@537monster
@537monster 2 жыл бұрын
Be warned, you’ll attract quite a few arrogant film school majors who insist they are “between jobs” and are “huge fans of Chris Nolan”.
@alcidesprieto1967
@alcidesprieto1967 2 жыл бұрын
It's that easy
@God_gundam36
@God_gundam36 2 жыл бұрын
I love how in attempt to make gayness look bad by making all the villains gay coded only just made everyone love the villains more than the heroes lol
@GustavoRodriguez-qr5po
@GustavoRodriguez-qr5po 2 жыл бұрын
Besides she ra and dbz
@HPLovecraftsCat87
@HPLovecraftsCat87 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder what China will do for the new Thor movie where they're making Valkyrie lgbtabc+-%
@daraghokane4236
@daraghokane4236 2 жыл бұрын
@@HPLovecraftsCat87 If she kisses someone remove that part. Doubt it will be in your face Disney has had 50 first gay characters all confirmed gay by twitter. China doesn't have twitter so how will they know
@God_gundam36
@God_gundam36 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when fight club got a PS2 fighting game with mortal combat X-ray moves? How can you fuck up the entire point that bad?
@verbatim7508
@verbatim7508 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I always feel so awkward telling people that Fight Club is my favorite movie. Makes me feel like they'll either see me as dudebro incel-type who listens to Joe Rogan, posts on r/TheRedPill, and completely misses the point of the story, OR they'll see me as an obnoxious male feminist with a giant stick up my ass who claims to understand the movie better than the unwashed masses, or whatever-when I really just think it's one of the coolest movies ever made. The fact that the story is essentially a screed against consumerism and toxic masculinity is kind of just a nice bonus to me-and I'm glad I'm apparently part of a lucky few who watched this movie as a lonely teenager and _didn't_ wind up misinterpreting any of its themes.
@veganrican606
@veganrican606 2 жыл бұрын
It's one of my favorite movies too.
@jdprettynails
@jdprettynails 2 жыл бұрын
And can also be read as an interesting gay allegory too.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
The first rule of Chinese media : don't talk about tiananmen square Second rule of Chinese media : don't show a gay person Third rule of Chinese media : no government criticism ..... 1012th rule of Chinese media: no vaush
@utubepunk
@utubepunk 2 жыл бұрын
1012th Rule: Vaush bad
@moisuomi
@moisuomi 2 жыл бұрын
@Roy Balls Your from Hong Kong? Why are you sticking with China?
@Vict0r1984
@Vict0r1984 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, if you watch Chinese historical dramas, a lot of martial arts cultivator types look and act a lot like they're gay... (with a few of them you can even kinda tell that the "straightness" was forced upon those characters to avoid censorship 😂) There was also recently a show adaptation of "Grandmaster of demonic cultivation" or "Mo Dao Zu Shi" in the original Mandarin, a Chinese Xianxia novel whose main character is gay (and a pretty immoral badass at several points), so I have no idea how they went around it with that one! Haven't watched the show but they might've changed the gender of MCs love interest, which would kinda be hilarious, as there were no female cultivation sect leaders in that book (at least not direct leaders), and that guy was a very respected sect leader, so in a way they'd censor away the gayness for... female empowerment?!? 😂🤣 Not sure if they did this - I think most likely they just removed any obvious clues to the gay romance and painted it as a close friendship or some shit, (this would probably please boring censors the most), which would make plenty of stuff from the book not make sense and overall be too boring to be even worth watching, so I think I like my made-up interpretation of what they did more...
@alexzhangdragonn3438
@alexzhangdragonn3438 2 жыл бұрын
Lol Chinese media defiently shows gay people , Jin Xing is a famous TV host who is transgender. And where isn't there government criticism?
@genyakozlov1316
@genyakozlov1316 2 жыл бұрын
Tyler, age "I don't care", gave himself up to the authorities after the incident. he is now serving a life sentence.
@peytonfryer5700
@peytonfryer5700 2 жыл бұрын
Truly the best ending
@brianfinlay756
@brianfinlay756 2 жыл бұрын
There is a western from the 70s called "the great silence". It ends with the hero being shot and killed, and the townspeople being gunned down by the bad guys. They had to film a whole different ending for China.
@frostbite3318
@frostbite3318 2 жыл бұрын
3:21 it’s always cringe seeing grown men who still think fighting makes them cool, that stops being cool after the 8th grade. But as kids everyone is just doing what they think makes them a man, like assaulting someone because they were “talking shit”
@crashchannel_2787
@crashchannel_2787 2 жыл бұрын
Hays code was like that for Hollywood in the early days. The Motion Picture Production Code of 1930 was based on one core belief: “if motion pictures present stories that will affect lives for the better, they can become the most powerful force for the improvement of mankind.” This lofty interpretation of films as a guidepost to modify and control people’s morals resulted in a long list of governances, encapsulated by three overall principles: 1. No picture shall be produced that will lower the moral standards of those who see it. Hence the sympathy of the audience should never be thrown to the side of crime, wrongdoing, evil or sin. 2. Correct standards of life, subject only to the requirements of drama and entertainment, shall be presented. 3. Law, natural or human, shall not be ridiculed, nor shall sympathy be created for its violation. In short, the bad guy can never win, crime must never be glamorized and social taboos (such as homosexuality) can not be expressly depicted. While these guidelines were technically voluntary, not adhering to them became disastrous for studios and filmmakers. As such, the Hays Code (and similar strictures enforced by the massive Catholic Legion of Decency) influenced almost every American film made between 1930 and 1966.
@crashchannel_2787
@crashchannel_2787 2 жыл бұрын
Oh you mentioned it I'm just not patient enough lol
@betterthanrae8137
@betterthanrae8137 2 жыл бұрын
Was that what the anti porn guy was referring to when vaush debated him a couple weeks ago? That's nuts, because in media since time immemorial its stands that "if it bleeds it leeds" I guess they weren't too worried about making money lol
@crashchannel_2787
@crashchannel_2787 2 жыл бұрын
@@betterthanrae8137 yes that is what that guy was referring to but he seemed to be misinterpreting to be some moral grand strand for what's best for American's when in reality it's a tool of fascism (controlling the narrative). Also correct on the news media being the "if it bleeds it leads" method has been a popular one for ratings which makes their sponsors happy. Journalism seems like it is to be about pride about getting the truth and story and setting things right. Idk if that's Hollywood myth, if it ever actually existed I mean there's examples of it happening so it somewhat was real or maybe those are just government ploys to make us think reporters are actually doing their job occasionally 👀
@betterthanrae8137
@betterthanrae8137 2 жыл бұрын
@@crashchannel_2787 i know that it was at least better before the fairness doctrine was dissolved. we should for sure have somekind of regulations for "news" orgs using that term when they have nothing to do with news or journalism. im sure it would be complicated with the internets and all, but it should be illegal to lie to your audience when you call yourself "news"
@nilspochat8665
@nilspochat8665 2 жыл бұрын
I have that theory about fight club that Marla, just like Tyler is imaginary, just another of the narrator's (edward norton) 'personality'. Think about it : do you ever see Marla alone talking to someone else? She only either talks to the narrator, tyler durden, or if to anyone else, in the narrator's presence.
@Xrahke
@Xrahke 2 жыл бұрын
She is held hostage by Tyler's men who all react to her presence at the end
@nilspochat8665
@nilspochat8665 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xrahke oh Well, I forgot about that. That's what watching it high and as a teenager 10+ years ago does I suppose.
@pizzatime2001
@pizzatime2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xrahke Yeah but there are scenes with Tyler and Edward Norton interacting with others at the same time, even though they are the same person, such as the fighting scenes. So Marla could still be imaginary.
@scottaftem497
@scottaftem497 2 жыл бұрын
In the sequel, Marla stands by her man & marries him upon his release from the mental hospital.
@legzzzzz
@legzzzzz 2 жыл бұрын
This was debunked so long ago.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
I am Jack's complete lack of suprise
@Nofixdahdress
@Nofixdahdress 2 жыл бұрын
I make up my own Fight Club quotes! I never do 'em straight anymore.
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 2 жыл бұрын
Yea there's a lot of that with Death Note. "Kira was right. He made the world better by killing innocent people." "The ends justify the means" kind of arguments.
@jamesoleary2476
@jamesoleary2476 2 жыл бұрын
Vaush would probably agree with that as a utilitarian
@TheSquareOnes
@TheSquareOnes 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesoleary2476 Maybe the first half but not towards the end, if anything he'd probably use it to point out how corrupting power can be since he's mentioned being an anarchist several times. Even as an authoritarian you'd need some seriously fucked up calculus to justify Light's later actions with utilitarianism though.
@toehairyum
@toehairyum 2 жыл бұрын
MASSIVE spoilers so proceed with caution, but this is a WHOLE new level of irony. So, tldr, the Chinese changed the ending because the bad guys aren't supposed to win right? WRONG. Sure, on a very surface level, bad guy commits crime, bad guy goes to jail. However this is still a work of fiction, and therefore the "good guy", the role of protagonist, is whoever the author wants them to be. Not just, whoever commits the least amount of crimes. The original ending actually paints a very bleak picture. The narrator spends the story indulging in unrestrained over-compensation to run from his own insecurities, and in the end, he's trapped in a hell of his own making. Even if he recognizes that those parts of himself are toxic, he's still trapped. Fincher's ending is very different. The narrator succeeds in stopping his alternate personality (Tyler) from destroying his life. When he shoots himself in the head, killing Tyler, he's finally accepts himself for the person he truely is, insecurities and all. He knows he has flaws, but he won't let those flaws dictate his life anymore. The message of the whole movie becomes "Hey viewer? Its ok to be the narrator. You dont have to push yourself to be Tyler." The conflict in Fight Club was never the questioning of authority, the state vs. anarchists. The real conflict, the thing that drives the movie, is the narrator's battle with his own self. So in the Chinese version, the "bad guy" still wins, because Tyler is still free to torment the narrator however he chooses. That's irony.
@it-s-a-mystery
@it-s-a-mystery 2 жыл бұрын
The bad guy is free to torment the narrator... Who cares, he's not free to terrorize the state, and the authorities have been shown to be powerful. This is talking from the position they would have, not my own. I care about the individual. I understand your point.
@MrDougfunny7
@MrDougfunny7 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t expect Vaush to objectively cover non white countries
@vxicepickxv
@vxicepickxv 2 жыл бұрын
The book also ends differently from the movie.
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically the "Chinese" ending is how the book ends. Chuck Palahniuk Is Fine With Chinese Censorship of Fight Club, Actually: You could say Chuck Palahniuk saw the Chinese government's censorship of "Fight Club" coming ... because the new ending is closer to the original one he wrote 25 years ago. The famed author -- who penned the OG novel that became the 1999 movie -- joined us Wednesday on "TMZ Live" to give us his take on China removing the film's big explosive climax. Chuck says it's funny to him that folks are up in arms over the censorship overseas because he's been dealing with his books being banned for a long time right here in the U.S. -- and he calls out Texas, in particular.
@JStack
@JStack 2 жыл бұрын
What? That’s not how the book ends. It’s just closer to the book ending than that cheesy final scene garbage in the movie
@shoteverydayb4528
@shoteverydayb4528 2 жыл бұрын
Well now I'm curious. Does anybody know which books of his are banned in Texas?
@PoppySis
@PoppySis 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, i was wondering how the tankies were gonna try to justify this cool to know you still dont have arguments!
@legzzzzz
@legzzzzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@JStack cheesy final scene garbage? hmm
@medes5597
@medes5597 2 жыл бұрын
@@shoteverydayb4528 I don't know about currently, but Invisible Monsters was taken out of public libraries in 5 states, Survivor was banned in multiple libraries after 9/11 because it begins with a plane crashing and Choke was banned from 5 state libraries as well. I assume others have had issues but those are the large scale ones I know about.
@21doriangray
@21doriangray 2 жыл бұрын
I saw avengers infinity war in China. Thanos still snapped and won.
@cyn1clcynide
@cyn1clcynide 2 жыл бұрын
I think a giant purple alien who dusts half the universe is much lower on the CCP shitlist than a movie that criticizes consumerism and authoritarian policy.
@TheSquareOnes
@TheSquareOnes 2 жыл бұрын
"Won." Wouldn't surprise me if they had to let the proper authorities know that everything would be undone almost immediately afterwards in the story in order to get it released that way if the policies are that strict, in the greater scope of things he objectively loses the conflict so it's not a straight example of a villain winning.
@SteveEwe
@SteveEwe 2 жыл бұрын
You broke the first rule of fight club.
@Siberius-
@Siberius- 2 жыл бұрын
Extra nitpick: Very cringe of them to call a psychiatric hospital (or whatever similar name) a "lunatic asylum".
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, the crude language of "lunatic asylum" fits the story better.
@moisuomi
@moisuomi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Lol I see your comment all over this video. Keep it up CCP bot 👍
@JStack
@JStack 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah has nothing to do with the language gap lol
@kneau
@kneau 2 жыл бұрын
Not as cringe as presentism.
@SA-mo3hq
@SA-mo3hq 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the CCCP is famously inclusive and has a long proud history of protecting minority rights. /s
@chargingbadger_
@chargingbadger_ 2 жыл бұрын
Another really good movie with an insufferable fan base due to poor interpretation is American Psycho.
@laflux
@laflux 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!!
@ellagage1256
@ellagage1256 2 жыл бұрын
Yes what a great movie where people entirely miss the point of it
@genghisdingus
@genghisdingus 2 жыл бұрын
11:22 "Put a Kippah on that roadrunner." -Vaush
@paulfeeder4262
@paulfeeder4262 2 жыл бұрын
on the point of fighting sucking: boxing is nice but the one fight i had was exactly this close scuffle. we where basically hugging and just causing as much damage as possible, no defense posible.
@Spremington
@Spremington 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Meat Loaf
@johnswanger8474
@johnswanger8474 2 жыл бұрын
His name is Robert Paulson
@omechron
@omechron 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the thing I find most offensive about the changed ending is just the SUPREME lack of effort. An incredibly large incredibly powerful nation with the power to do whatever you want and the best you can fucking come up with is an incredibly transparent fade to black and text that literally anyone would instantly intuit indicates obvious tampering? Seriously? No CGI Brad Pit? No spliced footage from other movies? Nothing!?! Absolute power breeds unbelievable laziness it would seem...
@d0nj03
@d0nj03 2 жыл бұрын
Have you even bothered to listen to Palahniuk talk about it and how the Chinese ending is ironically closer to the original ending in his book, which was already tampered with by the US movie?
@omechron
@omechron 2 жыл бұрын
@@d0nj03 That has no bearing on what I said. I'm criticizing the lack of effort in the presentation. What was different about the ending of the book was that Tyler Durden loses, but with sort of a question mark. It does not suddenly stop and just say "And then the police caught everyone! THE END!" That's just fucking lazy.
@Lambda_Ovine
@Lambda_Ovine 2 жыл бұрын
Tankies: "The CCP is the only power fighting to build communism against capitalist western hegemony!" The CCP: **censors a subversive film that deconstructs capitalism and western male chauvinism to make it more in line with a propaganda piece of western hegemony.**
@alexzhangdragonn3438
@alexzhangdragonn3438 2 жыл бұрын
China does not claim to be Communist or Capitalist and is neither Communist or Capitalist
@Tacom4ster
@Tacom4ster 2 жыл бұрын
Vaush didn't mentioned Meatloaf who was in the movie. Rest in peace Meatloaf, get vaccinated, Meatloaf didn't That's why he died
@biologicalengineoflove6851
@biologicalengineoflove6851 2 жыл бұрын
"If I die, I die, but I’m not going to be controlled." He really loafed his own meat on that one. RIP
@Liliquan
@Liliquan 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing was that he wasn’t being controlled. He had a choice and made it and fucked himself over whilst deluding himself that the government was fucking him over. Pathetic.
@diogocarreira5079
@diogocarreira5079 2 жыл бұрын
Fighting is dirty and even just one fight can leave you with reminders of it for life. I wish I could've been in fewer. I also had a bad take of the movie as a teen when it came out but have come to appreciate its meaning, with a worker number in a corporation, with my single servings drawer for lunch in the office, and those superficial interactions with some coworkers. I do get more real with people, nothing as shocking as in the movie, but it does still catch people off guard. I in no way live my life like the characters, but I recognize the movie's critique on society. But I'm probably too much of a normie, still fairly new to this channel. I had a bit of a crisis with that gif of Squidward with the same factual expression, switching between different locations, as life dragged on.
@alrecks619
@alrecks619 2 жыл бұрын
apparently it was somehow "faithful" to Palahniuk's vision lol.
@lolkthnxbai
@lolkthnxbai 2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough to actually is because in the book it ends with him in an insane asylum and and Marla visiting him with a janitor visiting him confirming that project mayhem is still going though. I like how I was typing that out vaush literally was reading the tweet confirming it hah
@Replica_Rabbit
@Replica_Rabbit 2 жыл бұрын
Wait a second, would they edit the Star Wars movies having the Empire win because they are the Government in that universe and going by their logic the good guys
@medes5597
@medes5597 2 жыл бұрын
No, you're misunderstanding there. They see Star Wars as a story of the proletariat triumphing over an evil fascist dictatorship (the United States/Nazism). It fits into their propaganda.
@carlcarlington7317
@carlcarlington7317 2 жыл бұрын
“The police quickly found out about Cells plot to blow up the earth and promptly arrested him, and the homeless man in orange”
@ih8myfriends
@ih8myfriends 2 жыл бұрын
7:56 I think chat tried to gaslight Vaush into thinking he imagined the appendage lol.
@TheKnizzine
@TheKnizzine 2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Chuck Palahniuk. Dude is a good author who almost all of his work gets read in the most incorrect/least charitable way....apart from fight club 2 which was more of a fuck it I need money.
@benjaminwainer4750
@benjaminwainer4750 2 жыл бұрын
That Fight Club is not completely banned in China is what really gets me.
@alexzhangdragonn3438
@alexzhangdragonn3438 2 жыл бұрын
Why would it be completely banned? It's just a movie
@hanli5416
@hanli5416 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention not everyone gets the same message, while all my friends were super hyped and saying how cool the movie and tyler were (saw it when we were all not 20 years old yet in the Netherlands for context) , i just thought tyler was a dangerous rebellious ass that inflicted harm to people that were not neccesarily guilty of anything. Yh i never really got the hype and just nodded so not to get ridiculed.
@TheRussell9109
@TheRussell9109 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure my high school had a fight club on the DL. There was definitely a group of like 12-15 guys who would show up with cuts/scrapes/black eyes from time to time, and I heard a few of them talking about fighting. Never made the connection that it would have been inspired by the movie XD XD
@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness
@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Fight Club in my youth around when it came out. Never came away with it wanting to be like Tyler. I thought the movie did a pretty good job showing why that being like him wasn't a good thing.
@jlee3756
@jlee3756 2 жыл бұрын
now see when i read fight club as a high school boy my main takeaway was that i was mysteriously VERY interested in that one scene where tyler kisses the narrator’s hand 👀 (fellas is it gay to have a toxic homoerotic relationship with your own copium alter??)
@hanli5416
@hanli5416 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm 25 years ago much more data was on paper files in vaults. I was working during a summer at a big mortgage bank just before y2k getting them ready for the feared 2k crash and we were transferring and verifying paper files on the pc or faxing data over to affiliates and accountancy firms.
@willowtdog6449
@willowtdog6449 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there were microfiche files and what not, more than just paper files for the majority of the big record keeping. Paper takes up way too much space. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been able to fit in the buildings being blown up, honestly. It would certainly be a combo, and they likely would have had redundancies. But the circumstances of the movie imply they are blowing it all simultaneously.
@Bryan-pz5up
@Bryan-pz5up 2 жыл бұрын
Fighting is fun, except when the guys mate sucker punches you in the back of the head and breaks your jaw. But when the blades come out is when it gets interesting. Always remember the golden rule of knife fighting, be the only guy with a knife.
@IamJenJen101
@IamJenJen101 2 жыл бұрын
I watched Fight Club. I don't really get why what's very obviously a critique on capitalism got so popul- *Fight Club is an underrated masterpiece*
@IamJenJen101
@IamJenJen101 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair I was born on the beginning of the Melania, I don't really understand the concept of a pre 911 world. I liked the movie a whole lot, I just didn't see why it was popular. I didn't see why it had wide appeal. Is it just misinterpreted that often? Do I not understand that it was super chill to say capitalism bad back then? If I say capitalism bad in any normie space I get called a communist.
@donnytonny730
@donnytonny730 2 жыл бұрын
6:01. Where is My Mind? - Pixies
@spluff5
@spluff5 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's revealed in DS9 that the Cardassians have a similar rule...
@jdprettynails
@jdprettynails 2 жыл бұрын
China also ban depictions of time travel. No Back to the Future or Terminator movies for China.
@JmanGeezy
@JmanGeezy 2 жыл бұрын
I wish young JmanG had seen this Vaush. I might still be able to breathe out of my left septum
@Well.Pharaoh
@Well.Pharaoh 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this shit right after 9/11, and never grew out of it. I'm a middle-aged man who goes to Hardcore shows. Notice the two buildings in the foreground going down at the same time, prophetically.
@joelbruhcum6583
@joelbruhcum6583 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s go we’re in the same time zone
@willowtdog6449
@willowtdog6449 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot I actually saw Fight Club at a discount theater shortly after it came out when it came out while I was in high school. I have no idea how I still haven't read the book, but I'm glad to be reminded how much I've loved this movie since way back watching the first time with my wonderful, degenerate guy friends I've known since back then. :)
@8Rincewind
@8Rincewind 2 жыл бұрын
3:29 this really is NOT an important point, but Vaush is wrong about sword fighting looking cool. Stage fighting can look cool, fencing can look cool. But when people are actually trying to kill each other sword fighting is over even faster then a fist fight, but with a much greater chance of death. Look up the video game Hellish Quart.
@d0nj03
@d0nj03 2 жыл бұрын
Or the movie Gohatto with the gay samurai. Japanese swordfights in that one felt distinctly more realistic to me than in most Japanese movies I'd seen.
@ANNIHILISTIC
@ANNIHILISTIC 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing stories about how other boys got some dumb ideas from fight club, I guess I was pretty lucky, cause what I got from the movie ideologically was anti-materialism and rejection of superficiality and disdain for marketing, to this day as far as material possessions go I'm pretty minimalist. I guess because my other fav film is The Matrix, that came out that same year, which is in many ways the same film (disillusioned office worker get recruited into a cult to bring down the system), but less bleak.
@pizzatime2001
@pizzatime2001 2 жыл бұрын
Office Space and American Beauty are also very similar, and they also came out in 1999 too.
@ANNIHILISTIC
@ANNIHILISTIC 2 жыл бұрын
@@pizzatime2001 Yeah there was certainly a theme to the Zeitgeist, for sure.
@fruitygarlic3601
@fruitygarlic3601 2 жыл бұрын
If you liked The Matrix, you gotta watch The Thirteenth Floor -- same plot, same year, different genre. And definitely Gattaca.
@danielsan901998
@danielsan901998 2 жыл бұрын
Anti-materialism is idealism, do you mean anti-consumerism?
@ANNIHILISTIC
@ANNIHILISTIC 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielsan901998 Yep.
@jaymorgan8013
@jaymorgan8013 2 жыл бұрын
The ending has Winnie the Pooh take out the terrorists.
@tylerjohnson2470
@tylerjohnson2470 2 жыл бұрын
I never looked at fight club through right leaning eyes before. Dam.
@neurotika
@neurotika 2 жыл бұрын
Birds ate my face. I remember my Chuck Palahnuik phase. Fuck, I feel old.
@master11050
@master11050 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't been in a lot of 1v1 fights but I've been jumped a lot by groups of dudes. I rate it zero stars, would not recommend.
@caveben
@caveben 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder who by
@GaganSingh-nx2yv
@GaganSingh-nx2yv 2 жыл бұрын
Fight club is underrated masterpiece. Now step on me daddy.
@MrQuantumInc
@MrQuantumInc 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be the first to point out the irony that so many kept talking about fight club. It was meant to parody the worship of violent masculinity, but real world men are sometimes just as bad as the men in fight club. The fantasy of Tyler Durden was too entrancing. Same could be said about Scarface, Breaking Bad, or even Mad Men.
@maynardwayward12
@maynardwayward12 2 жыл бұрын
His name was Meatloaf
@Tormund_Giantsbrain
@Tormund_Giantsbrain 2 жыл бұрын
Literally 1984
@politicallynonbinary
@politicallynonbinary 2 жыл бұрын
5:00 you're now just describing the plot of seasons 2+ of Mr. Robot
@NOONECARES2712
@NOONECARES2712 2 жыл бұрын
I said exactly what you said that the fanbase ruins the movie for others who think it’s just a incel movie 💀 When it’s just a cool movie imo
@jaysmith1685
@jaysmith1685 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Chuck Palahniuk fan so learning the shit subcultures its become attached to pissed me off on a personal level... Fight Club is satire
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 2 жыл бұрын
Ah gloves aren't pillows and wearing gloves doesn't make your punches hurt less. They protect your hands so you don't break them as easily. Therefore allowing you to punch harder and more often than bare knuckle.
@lunsen402
@lunsen402 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie this is very funny.
@vicratlhead2228
@vicratlhead2228 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't that long ago when the U.S. had similar laws.
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 2 жыл бұрын
Has Caleb Maupin defended this yet
@zachfreeman2502
@zachfreeman2502 2 жыл бұрын
The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast and a few other Disney movies were produced and had their songs written by Howard Ashman. A gay man who put hints of gay representation and metaphor throughout the films. Ursula is based on the drag queen Divine, for example. And the Beast's curse is a metaphor for AIDS. Vaush overlooked these kinds of influences.
@Crowley9
@Crowley9 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck Palahniuk has written Fight Club 2 in the form of a comic book. It's good. And much weirder than the first one.
@nikdoesstuff9338
@nikdoesstuff9338 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf did they do with infinity war then Fade to black Then ant man crawled up Thano's asshole and blew him up and the police clapped
@cnacma
@cnacma 2 жыл бұрын
This ending change proves China is absolutely a capitalist country. A true communist country would be happy to show the under dog striking a massive blow right to the heart of the capitalist financial infrastructure. They didn’t attack the government or the people, they very specifically attacked giant corporations. The beating heart of capitalism. The fact that they pulled that out of the movie entirely is very telling.
@d0nj03
@d0nj03 2 жыл бұрын
Myeeaah, but then everyone would be up in arms about how their plans are to bomb capitalist countries the second they have enough military resources, whereas the picture they're trying to present with the whole BRI thing at this stage is "no, we want mutually beneficial peaceful economic cooperation, unlike those dirty westerners spreading their influence at the point of a gun". The really curious thing to me though is how it never for a second occurs to Vaush that maybe it's more socialist to not want to glamorize antisocial behavior, to not want to raise teenagers with this image of the "bad guy" being "cool" and sexy. Are we so brainwashed by capitalist media that we can't question if some of these tropes we grew up with were maybe toxic the whole time?
@kneau
@kneau 2 жыл бұрын
*_quietly observes the breaking of rule one & rule two_*
@Trowa71
@Trowa71 2 жыл бұрын
The closest I've ever been to being in a fight was in highschool, I stupidly hit on a close friend's ex, so he wanted to fight me, so I let him punch me in the face a few times. We are still close friends like 10 years later. Most masculine thing I've ever done.
@MarkSoupial
@MarkSoupial 2 жыл бұрын
Fight Club (Canon Fanedit) by TenCent
@mookiestewart3776
@mookiestewart3776 2 жыл бұрын
me and my buddies used to fight for fun, like full on bloody faces fights, and yeah everything hurts after but there was some kind of cathartic release from it lol
@johnswanger8474
@johnswanger8474 2 жыл бұрын
Violence is the lowest form of communication
@CaptainPrincess
@CaptainPrincess 2 жыл бұрын
my problem with fight club is that I get it, but I dont like it when I think of it correctly I enjoy more the wrong interperetation and that just makes me like it more that way
@adamsmasher9769
@adamsmasher9769 2 жыл бұрын
I used to bounce. He is absolutely correct about fighting. I just manhandled people because i didnt want to get punched in the face lol. Dont even give them the chance, just throw them down
@Dorne_is_the_GOAT
@Dorne_is_the_GOAT 2 жыл бұрын
The irony is this makes the movie better
@somefunification
@somefunification 2 жыл бұрын
Being faithful to the text is bad if you're China~ Vaush
@ellagage1256
@ellagage1256 2 жыл бұрын
The text of the movie is called a screenplay, it's not the book
@blascantu7221
@blascantu7221 2 жыл бұрын
You quickly realize, “shit just got real” when it’s your first time getting punched on the nose really REALLY hard. And if a movie is more than ten years old you shouldn’t care about spoiling it IMO.
@supershinigami1
@supershinigami1 2 жыл бұрын
also if it's an adaptation
@dappershinx9234
@dappershinx9234 2 жыл бұрын
Nah that's bullshit. Nobody can consume all media that has ever existed prior to your arbitrary timespan.
@TheSquareOnes
@TheSquareOnes 2 жыл бұрын
@@dappershinx9234 This. As long as you give a proper warning like he did here it's fine, but there's no period of time where you can just randomly blurt out massive spoilers to things because "they should have seen it by now." It takes so little effort not to ruin things for other people, always frustrating to hear that excuse. Ironically I've never seen Fight Club precisely because it was spoiled by basically everyone so there doesn't seem to be much of a point now.
@SuperAsefasef
@SuperAsefasef 2 жыл бұрын
Boys thinking Tyler is cool and wanting to be him or follow him proves that the book was pretty on the nose tbh.
@kap1618
@kap1618 2 жыл бұрын
I recently watched the movie. I knew about the twist prior to going in. Despite knowing that the movie is still enjoyable. Its also fun to look for the little details.
@jaymiddleton1782
@jaymiddleton1782 2 жыл бұрын
Tyler Durden is a fashion icon, tho, let’s be real.
@D4n1t0o
@D4n1t0o 2 жыл бұрын
Palahniuk is pronounced 'Paula-Nick', Vaush.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
His name is Robert Paula-Nick
@D4n1t0o
@D4n1t0o 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-cw3rz You just made me remember Meatloaf is dead :(
@KaleidoscopicVideos420
@KaleidoscopicVideos420 2 жыл бұрын
Literally 1924 bro Gorge Oh-well predicted the future man
@jacavanheesch4593
@jacavanheesch4593 2 жыл бұрын
remember authoritarians dont like fun. this is legit scary tho
@alexzhangdragonn3438
@alexzhangdragonn3438 2 жыл бұрын
Not really authoratarians , just some people in the government who abuse power
@cloudstrife746
@cloudstrife746 2 жыл бұрын
Vaush > Maupin
@gaben2542
@gaben2542 2 жыл бұрын
Does it work for men? Fight Club is an underrated masterpiece.
@L4NkYb
@L4NkYb 2 жыл бұрын
Pooch died on his way back to his home planet
@andrewshorts1198
@andrewshorts1198 2 жыл бұрын
Now just waiting for the great leader to edit V for Vendetta where V get's molested, and the Leader is saved by Evey.
@Psychosmurf5471
@Psychosmurf5471 2 жыл бұрын
I am Jack's surprised pikachu face.
@aldohernandez3916
@aldohernandez3916 2 жыл бұрын
We should have more Vaush Movie Analysis
@maynardwayward12
@maynardwayward12 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure I have a thing for women who smoke from Helena Bonham Carter's role in this movie
@aristizle8797
@aristizle8797 2 жыл бұрын
And so it continues. Why do we pirate? We want un-tampered-with copies of old movies. Yo ho. Also: can confirm. Fight Club appreciation is hawt. Bonus points if you mention Calvin and Hobbes.
@aristizle8797
@aristizle8797 2 жыл бұрын
*Fight Club is the stealth sequel to Calvin and Hobbes.
@brandtgill2601
@brandtgill2601 2 жыл бұрын
Only seen it one. Was good and would recommend to watch.
@alucardvekkia3966
@alucardvekkia3966 2 жыл бұрын
same story with The Wolf Of Wall Street
@cedgrayme
@cedgrayme 2 жыл бұрын
video game girls and movie men have more power than you would think!
@LaughsWithKnives
@LaughsWithKnives 2 жыл бұрын
the ccp just made fight club a prequel to 12 monkeys
@jamesgaston2745
@jamesgaston2745 2 жыл бұрын
Disney villains are also typically darker skinned as well.
@radical6905
@radical6905 2 жыл бұрын
Some similarity with how Kubrick changed the end of Clockwork Orange from the source material I winder if China would change that in a similar way should they stream it
Alright Jason. You can have this one.
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