Responding to Shoe0nHead's GARBAGE Joe Rogan Take

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[@testoftempest]

Here is Vaush's general take on Shoe, her political opinions, and how he views his relationship with her: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5_PeZihgd5koJI

[@AR15ORIGINAL]

Damn, you commented 20 mins before the video was visible to us mortals.

[@testoftempest]

@@AR15ORIGINAL "They tell me I'm a god, I'm lost in the facade Six-feet off the ground at all times, I think I'm feelin' odd"

[@gorillaglue775]

@@testoftempest fuck yes my ordinary life

[@melanieborne2581]

Vaush used to praise Shoe’s brand of chuddy leftism and suddenly it’s a problem. I don’t believe he’s shocked and disappointed that *Shoe0nhead* is being pro-free speech and anti-deplatforming. He’s been weird about her lately.

[@shocknawe]

The linked video’s first 30 secs is obligatory viewing for anytime Shoe comments, coz bloody hell, is she a mess, even more so on Tweeter.

[@mars7304]

Shoe: "learn to just fucking chill, why does everything have to be mommied?" Also shoe: *built her entire KZbin career off of complaining about buzzfeed and huffpost*

[@wile123456]

Shoes entire internet personality is being the "not like other millennials" woman

[@mars7304]

@Saitama _ Mocking media, while not a call for censorship, is still an implication that the beliefs being displayed in said media should be challenged. Also, most people shitting on Rogan don't want him silenced. Just for the platforms he's on to actually address when he has a harmful guest on, or to put some amount of pressure on him to not be a beacon of misinformation.

[@medes5597]

@@wile123456 pick me pick me pick me

[@medes5597]

@Saitama _ you subscribe to Matt Walsh, shut up.

[@flashthompson6566]

@@medes5597 his name is now Maush Watt, or anything else. His name gets treated how he treats other pronouns. If they don't "deserve" their pronouns, then he doesn't deserve his name.

[@theneedledrop]

A garbage take from Shoe??? No way! 😒

[@grey-pilled5253]

Shoe has officially been declared NOT GOOD

[@djungelskog9581]

Fancy seeing you here

[@smonarch9624]

Well isn't this the pot calling the kettle black.

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

@@smonarch9624 what are some of his garbage takes that are on the same level as ShoeShives garbage takes? Also, you wanna know what’s actually the pot calling the kettle black? It’s shoeshives who calls people spineless yet has a block list that would put the Vietnam Veterans Memorial to shame.

[@deadshr00m54]

Woah ok

[@entertain7us148]

Shoe’s biggest problem is she only recognises that something is sending a political message when she personally dislikes it. The idea that Rogan is apolitical is laughable. She is the least discerning person ever.

[@brian8507]

Shoes biggest problem is that she ate all of her hair and has to wear wigs (all true)

[@puckerings]

Rogan absolutely is an ideolog. He's just an ideolog she happens to agree with ideologically, so she just sees it as him being right, not him being political.

[@pinkroses2522]

@@brian8507 LOL

[@arabwaluigi5248]

Shoes biggest problem is that she is not very smart

[@iz2333]

That implies she actually agrees with him but she doesn't.

[@lycheens]

Shoe when she’s on a panel: herp derp Shoe when she has a bad take: manages complete sentences.

[@emilyhoward2574]

Yeah I was just thinking about a comment I saw on an old video about Shoe and it said something like, “Shoe speaks like she’s nervously peering around a corner” and it feels like she does do the 🥺👉👈🥺thing until she’s kinda showing her real feelings about something which tend to be really fucking stupid

[@ubahfly5409]

@@just_a_turtle_chad That's how your brain *reacts* when you're a reactionary & that's how you move when you're a sneaky grifting cryptofascist trojan horse.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

It's the power of anger. The Saiyan race somehow managed to harness this power.

[@probityk]

damn this is a perfect read of shoe that i didn't even realize until now. SHEEeeesh

[@BleedForTheWorld]

@@ubahfly5409 a bit harsh but I'll take it. I don't like fascists.

[@ImaginaryMdA]

Shoe's in general just very easily swayed by the apolitical goofball esthetic that some right wingers will adopt to max out their optics game.

[@FellaGuy2]

Fucking preach

[@melanieborne2581]

And right wing people are swayed by Shoe’s goofball aesthetic which brings them left. So who cares?

[@archerbluth]

TRUUE!!

[@Birthnote]

@@melanieborne2581 That's not a good rebuttal. If Shoe was as big or bigger than Rogan then you'd have a point. More people are swayed to Joe's direction because he is massive.

[@justin-md4xm]

It's ace-thetic

[@ASolidSnack]

For what it's worth, Neil Young didn't tell them to remove Rogan. He just straight up said he didn't want to be on a platform that has people like Joe Rogan. He had no expectation whatsoever that Spotify was going to remove Rogan in response.

[@akorn9943]

Honestly I have no idea why he’s not getting more respect for that. Man just straight up did the “find another bake store” meme even though there was nothing for him to gain except standing up for what he believes in. Keep on keepin on, Neil

[@tiagogarcia50]

And it was a straight up successful protest! Everyone's talking about with a passion and Rogan has warning stickers on his shit now. Neil Young is what all boomers should be

[@whysocurious7366]

Neil is cool af

[@Soyanide]

You could say Neil has a *heart of gold*

[@CSXIV]

"For What It's Worth." I see what you did there.

[@dannysdungareedanceoff8481]

"I did not find those arguments particularly convincing" Anytime I hear Shoe speak on anything this is mostly what I think

[@entertain7us148]

Cos her arguments 100% of the time boil down to “ugh it just annoys me”

[@Cullinyan]

@@entertain7us148 this vid made me think she thinks "shut the fuck up" is an argument too

[@admiralpaco507]

Yes, people with a platform should be responsible with their platform. We can disagree with what "responsible" means, but the concept of "responsibility" with platform shouldn't be controversial.

[@oscarbainbridge8656]

you are incorrect. If a guy wants to do a podcast where he smokes and talks to some people, he has 0 responsibility when he does so

[@PickleSir]

I also think the level of responsibility is proportional to the type of content. Political content like Joe Rogan is significantly more influential over people's beliefs and actions as opposed to something like a gaming youtuber

[@KEvronista]

@Saitama _ meh. we're capable of consensus. KEvron

[@whysocurious7366]

@@oscarbainbridge8656 I agree, but only because no one ever has any responsibility, no matter what.

[@whysocurious7366]

@@oscarbainbridge8656 if people do have responsibilities, then obviously influencers have them, but since no one has any obligations to do anything, you’re correct.

[@Mike-zx6sl]

I will NEVER understand why Shoe is only coherent and able to say what she means with her whole chest when it comes to being as wrong as humanly possible on a topic.

[@Tacklepig]

You think she's being COHERENT here? As compared to whom, Donald Trump?

[@Mike-zx6sl]

@@Tacklepig Compared to her on like, a panel LOL Bruh go listen to her on Hippy Dippy, she can barely friggin speak.

[@samij6071]

@@Mike-zx6sl She didn't get popular for being smart

[@adconklin]

Coz she agrees with his takes. She has no values at all and at this point I'm pretty sure vaush just wants to make flowers on her

[@pancakes8670]

Vaush recently claimed its because Shoe is lazy and gets her Leftism from the people around her. She doesn't actually think of her own positions most of the time, she just pulls them from others.

[@one_for_one]

Shoeonehead really sounding like a gamerbro seething about how games used to be "apolitical" in this segment.

[@dimsdaledimma4321]

Lool no not at all similar

[@ryanbellatorkingp4p1ranked53]

Shoe is a gamerbro

[@virn333]

Ahhh, of course, the deeply layered politics of Mario and Zelda. Yes. Of course. Totally not a ridiculous belief that only Marxist cultists could Come up with! Video games are too wide of a medium to give political value too. Some games are art, and tell a story, whereas many or simply mechanical or puzzle challenges. Now, the politics of the communities around video games are completely real tho.

[@one_for_one]

@@virn333 what a braindead take. Everything is political. Either it goes against the status quo, which is a political position, or it supports the status quo, which is also a position. But ty for serving as an example of the type of cringe gamerbro shoe is acting like here.

[@ToplessTopics]

@@virn333 gamerbros ain't just referring to retro classics, mate. they mean "apolitical" like call of duty.

[@junfaa]

So much of Shoe's takes come off as like an angsty teen who's insecure about her own independence,trying desperately to appear more mature than she is by acting like adulthood means people can say whatever they want. I mean you can, but can doesn't mean you should. Not knowing the difference is a trait of adolescence. This was a huge issue in the 2015-2018 era of politics where everybody had this exaggerated sense of their own maturity and a lack of deference to others as a result, simply because they had reached the age of adulthood, and June, being a 31 year old grown ass woman, should be well past this point. Her arguments are often emotionally guided by what she thinks is lame and not lame.

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

@aa b same can go for shoe who is getting mad at people for criticizing Bro Jogan.

[@aino1010]

Very true

[@malum9478]

she ooooold 👵🏻

[@laurenwalker1048]

@@malum9478 oh no, don’t say that, I’m turning 31 this year 😱😱😱

[@Romanticoutlaw]

oh my god I was convinced she's in her early 20's 💀 the egirl aesthetic certainly doesn't help tho

[@stumbles397]

I see why shoe doesn't do debate. That poor hamster would run itself to death.

[@ladyvanda]

“LEARN TO CHILL FFS, WHY WONT PEOPLE RELAAAAAAX” *drool and foam dripping off shoe’s mouth* 🤬😡😤😵‍💫

[@ProgPro96]

As someone who likes Shoe, I finally get what the socdems are talking about when they say populist brainrot. It sounds like she's describing Rogan from 2015, has she watched any of his podcasts since then?

[@justnaabye9686]

the mistake was liking shoe

[@ombra711]

@@ProgPro96 neh, they're right, shoe has been trash since she decided calling a black woman an ape was fun and games.

[@tristinmckinstry2992]

She probably hasn't. She just saw people she considers SJWs complaining about Rogan and decided to rant. That's usually how she goes about things like this.

[@SilvesterBathroomStallone]

@@ombra711 Which not only possibly unveiled a layer of racism on her part, it shows just how immature she really is. Deferring to something you say that hurt someone as "just a joke" constantly is just toxic.

[@lil_weasel219]

@@ombra711 Before that she had to take about how "the Irish were slaves to so why are black people complaining" That video was later removed and she pretends like it never existed

[@vryafoat777]

I feel like shoe doesn’t even watch joe rogan.

[@caseyjfromli3240]

KEKW she admitted that she hasn’t watched him recently, on her Twitter. Just firing from the hip as usual.

[@skullingtonfx4441]

Fake fan

[@vryafoat777]

@@caseyjfromli3240 That figures, most long time watchers of rogan hate what he’s become.

[@AwkwardPain]

@@vryafoat777 I hope that is the case. I really couldn't ever really get into it, so I wouldn't know.

[@greywolf7577]

How many people who hate Joe Rogan actually watch him? It's a weird paradox. If you hate him and don't watch him, then you don't know enough to claim you know his world view. If you hate him and do watch him, then you are wasting hours watching someone you hate. It's a double edged sword.

[@KermitDominicano]

Shoe blocked me on twitter for quote tweeting her joe rogan take and saying 'damn she really do be posting her Ls'. Her twitter display name was 'Shoe posting her Ls' at the time

[@ctxx24]

The amount of shit Shoe gets triggered about on Twitter is pretty ridiculous lmao

[@ownthelibs]

Wow ur so brave

[@KZ-xt4hl]

@@ownthelibs KZbin kids is 2 blocks down there young lad, this place is for grown ups

[@Jartyom]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone block as many people as shoe has tbh

[@KermitDominicano]

@@ctxx24 for real. I was actually shocked when I found out I got blocked. Wasn't expecting it

[@shocknawe]

Shoe: barges into anything --> has a poor/poorly informed take --> gets bashed for it --> mighty strawmans the point, then gets atop her hightower and plays both damsel and then whiteknight to herself.

[@matthewcaldwell8100]

Shoe is what all boomers think millennial political commentary is.

[@Fragenzeichenplatte]

I remember when she recently said in the stream chat that she's agreeing with a lot of Hinkle's points, got criticized and then sheepishly apologized with "sorry for being annoying". I don't think anyone should hope for her to change and improve. She just doesn't get it.

[@shocknawe]

@@matthewcaldwell8100 so true.

[@shocknawe]

@@Fragenzeichenplatte precisely as I wouldda guessed! She really is oddly predictable, right? Idk. As for all people, I was hopping she would change, but she keeps on acting the same way. It would take someone close to her in real life to get her to reflect on that.

[@Kropothead]

@@Fragenzeichenplatte Jesus. She would fall for Hinkle’s indecipherable nonsense, too. Chick’s a terrible idea factory. Just churning out those awful takes on an industrial scale.

[@georgfourth]

how many times does shoe have to express an extremely stupid point and people wag their finger with a little, "oh shoe, we know you're better than this!" before we finally just admit that she... just isn't?

[@Katyamuffin]

Well, she's a pretty white woman, so it's gonna be a while.

[@Spood6]

It really is true that we tend to be nice to pretty people huh; it would be nice to see shoe and vaush talk for a while at least, pry her brain a little and see if there's anything to redeem, and I'd like to believe I'm this generous because I'm a good person and not because she's a while girl with a big booty.

[@rotary7372]

@@Katyamuffin Right there. She is the cute chick in class who just wanted to be one of the boys and the sad sad people who make up debate world crush on her.

[@rotary7372]

@@Spood6 There will be no prying. She is a creature of pure reaction. No depth all reflex.

[@Katyamuffin]

@@Spood6 It's absolutely true, I'm guilty of it myself, I gave her the benefit of the doubt for way too long. But she's been spitting out one shitty take after another and it's becoming real clear that she doesn't have any real convictions.

[@Jack-fw4mw]

12:40 "I think people with power should be responsible" How is this a contentious take? It is literally spiderman.

[@SilvesterBathroomStallone]

Best Spiderman at that!

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

I forgot which Spider-Man said that quote but that’s a good ass quote.

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

@Oswald Cobblepot oh okay thanks.

[@bigpooper4156]

Sigma spiderman being the best superhero as always

[@SilvesterBathroomStallone]

@Oswald Cobblepot Thinking such things is idealism.

[@dracocrusher]

Joe Rogan unironically: "We all know that globe is round, so to even things out I brought on a Flat Earther to spout their beliefs to millions of people!" (one week later) "HEY, why there so many Flat Earthers coming out all of a sudden???"

[@strikerrey6016]

To recycle one of vaush's takes on this kind of stuff: it's probably better that they are out in the open now

[@balvarine8709]

@@strikerrey6016 In a world where self-proclaimed Nazis aren't shot on sight... No, it's not.

[@strikerrey6016]

@@balvarine8709 That sounds great but remember that they are people. People are stupid and very often misled by other, sometimes equally as misled, people. Even if they subscribe to a disgusting ideology if we treat people like wild animals they will behave like wild animals.

[@balvarine8709]

@@strikerrey6016 People can be disgusting and evil too. Nazis don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. If they're dumb enough to believe in an ideology that advocates for genocide in order to "preserve the purity of the white race", they don't deserve any civility at all.

[@fighterck6241]

@@balvarine8709 Agreed because once they get power they won't give anyone else the benefit of the doubt. At this rate I'm pretty certain that we'll have a real fascist takeover here. It won't last because people will have to actually look at what happens when they alow fascists to take over and they won't like it but by that time the damage will be done.

[@testifyfgc8705]

Always fun to see shoe's three brain cells fighting for dominance

[@jpeg7111]

Three's being kind

[@krasmazov1959]

To people who think "Joe rogan is like talking to your friend" - have you tried having friends? Like, parasocial relatioships are not a good thing, it's fucking walls up to the Northstar.

[@pastamondays1712]

“Fuckin chill” Shoe says as she seethes into the mic lmao

[@zcritten]

Shoe on head has consistently pushed me away from agreeing with her and she's starting to just feel like a right populist she defends so much at this point Like i got blocked by her awhile ago but even before then it felt like she was just always culture war shit (basically always defending the right or saying that both sides were being dumb and angry too much), it felt like I rarely saw proper policy takes from her Also last edit, the jersey shore shit is such an awful point, if a real house wives had an episode where Hillary Clinton came on and was like "here's why we need more police and state overreach, and eat the bugs and get in the pod" and the show had everyone around going "QUEEEN SLAY" then I think shoe would be mad about that lol

[@mars7304]

I'm pretty sure we could spam this comment with people who got banned by Shoe for offering even weak pushback to a dumb Twitter take of hers lmao

[@wile123456]

Her biggest issue is that she can't formulate a good argument ever

[@zcritten]

@@mars7304 oh yeah i told her deliberately getting her audience to attack nobodies on twitter was "a bit cringe" and got an instant block Cancel culture fan shoe on head

[@zcritten]

@@wile123456 Oh definitely, which is fine but she is/wants to be a political commentator/comedian online and sorry but if ur whole comedy schtick is "both sides bad and cringe (but these guys over here sound pretty smart just they just hate THE WOKE) haha maybe good stuff should happen?" then sorry but early 2000's south park beat you to that market

[@mars7304]

@Saitama _ see if you can speak on political issues without trying to appeal to some shitty centrist stance

[@themajesticspider-man6116]

By far her worst argument for literally anything lol

[@JadoDog]

Nah, just the most confident in how ignorant it is.

[@christopherstathis4419]

I have trouble believing this person is over 30.

[@mikek9297]

I agree. Vaush really dropped the ball here.

[@claires1063]

@@mikek9297 How

[@Romanticoutlaw]

I dunno, that shitfit she threw at vegans on twitter was pretty monumental

[@gaybatgosqueak]

Why does shoe sound like a 16 year old that thinks they discovered the meaning of life? Isn't she like 30+?

[@eduardoqquina1261]

She's 31 and has such a narrow view of the world

[@lil_weasel219]

@@eduardoqquina1261 shes 30

[@eduardoqquina1261]

@@lil_weasel219 you get my point

[@ericpmoss]

I have never heard her before, or even heard of her. But she sounds like a 14 year old, and is reasoning like one, too. Her giggling gives her away as someone who thinks she just got edgy.

[@Neon_Plasma]

She's in her 30s too.....

[@Neon_Plasma]

@@Hagane98 average tradwife

[@alexfoley4744]

I was thinking this exact same thing when she said “mommied.” That’s literally the argument of a teenage boy who has been told he can’t play his edgy video games

[@anonomus8709]

@@Neon_Plasma trust me. I’m turning 36 this year and sadly, her age doesn’t matter. Some 30somethings act as though they are still high schoolers slamming out hot takes on MySpace. She is absolutely one of them.

[@danieltobin4498]

"Learn to just fucking chill" How bout you practice what you preach?

[@immortan-valkyrie90]

Dude srsly! She can dish it out but blocks everyone who calls her out

[@thedarkknight221]

Has shoe ever been particularly intelligent, though? She has made some great business decisions, particularly in getting exposure, but she constantly spouts nonsense and ignorance to so many issues in vaushs chat. I don't see how anyone can go to her as a serious political commentator.

[@nathangillingham5734]

Agreed, her contributions to any discourse are never worth listening to imo

[@kaylalabrynth9483]

Someone does not need to be intelligent to bring something to the table. But yes, she is intelligent. Not in the same way Vaush is though.

[@heccinpupper886]

She’s funny that’s why we like her.

[@Versace_sheets]

@@heccinpupper886 that's such a shallow reason

[@Under-yd7ov]

@@Versace_sheets Liking a comedian for being funny is not a “shallow reason” JFC what is wrong with Vaush’s fanbase? Lmao. Not everyone is a debate bro.

[@devzorsmallz]

sorry, but literally the only reason y'all put up with shoe is because you think she's cute. she has always had braindead takes. every time i think maybe she's getting better, she proves me wrong.

[@felicitys3621]

This is true

[@austindrinksfanta]

Had to be said. That and she's friends with a bunch of lefties her takes are fucking laughable

[@brian8507]

... and she eats her own hair

[@jpeg7111]

No need to be proven wrong, you spoke the truth. Shoe has always been awful

[@NaimHrustanovic]

Back in the day, her main appeal was the fact that she was cute and funny (your mileage may vary), sticking out as "the girl who hates SJWs" and so on. I think it's important to give her support and feedback, still. No matter what,.she has a sizable following and should be taken seriously because of that alone. Bad and stupid takes aside, she's here - let's make the most of it.

[@LaurentIpsum]

Shoe has the take of a fourteen-year-old

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

She has the mind of a 14 year old, so it’s not too surprising.

[@ayezel6344]

She came into prominence by immitating at 14 year old (Boxxy) so this is not surprising

[@BrowncoatAllywang]

Shoe's politics don't go beyond "elites bad" which is why she constantly ends up defending people like Joe Rogan. She has a knee jerk emotional reaction and goes off on one.

[@Fragenzeichenplatte]

While Rogan is also part of the elites.

[@lilstevechan8427]

And Rogan is part of the elite. He's essentially as powerful as any other given elite considering how much he's worth and how many people uncritically follow him.

[@12DAMDO]

wait since when is Rogan not an elite?

[@ToplessTopics]

@@12DAMDO to idiots who think "elite" means "can complete coherent sentences"

[@PeteMachini6732]

Shoeonhead is one of those people that would call Tucker Carlson a socialist.

[@UncleBuck3t]

She thinks TC is hot. She wouldn’t call him a socialist. 😂

[@PeteMachini6732]

@@UncleBuck3t if she wants Tuckers egg plant, she has to dress up like M&M.

[@majesticskydiver5784]

She wouldn’t but she is.

[@talkswithali]

Shoe has showed us time and again that she’s just not worth listening to at times.

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

She’s not worth listening to at all. Would rather watch Kyle Kulinski. At least he has some substance unlike shoe who virtually lacks any kind of substance.

[@talkswithali]

@@WarningBFG-isHiring that’s valid.

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

@@talkswithali I’m not trying to be hostile towards you. Hopefully shoe reads through these comments tho. She can’t block anyone on KZbin. Lol

[@JARV9701]

Vaush: (sees new Shoe content) "Ohh lets see what she has to say." Shoe: "Rogan..." Vaush: "Ohh no..."

[@mikal9904]

I’m tired of this, shoe. I thought you were finally over being stuck in 2016, but you consistently disappoint

[@avatarwan5824]

We are seeing the resurgence of the anti-SJW movement. Except they're in suits this time.

[@ITSAULGONE]

Who's shocked? People been calling her out for years for all the right wings points she's been pushing and she just blocks them on Twitter. Faux leftists. She just saw another bandwagon or maybe she just wanted to sleep again at night with her mind at ease.

[@bigpooper4156]

@@avatarwan5824 the xanderhal prophecy, if nothing else, realizes itself in shoe every single day

[@Juniversal]

It feels like Shoe is one stumble away from a "why I left the left" arc. She really is encroaching on Tim Pool territory and those right wing bucks are lucrative

[@partytime8092]

@@Juniversal I genuinely thought she already had this moment

[@towablewarrior2426]

As someone who didn't buy the arguments made in her favor within the "Answering The Shoe0nHead Question" video, I can't exactly say I'm surprised by her take here

[@anarchohelenism]

I feel like freshman sociology students could debunk Shoe’s take.

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

High school freshman can dunk on Shoe0nhead. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.

[@lil_weasel219]

lmfao, me at 18 could. Bhah

[@gothgammy666]

I think my cat could and he's a 17 year old with cataracts and kitty dementia.

[@craque_victor]

implying that shoe would EVER debate someone face to face. she can't block people IRL or do whatever the IRL version of "quote tweeting so that my loser simps can dogpile the person" is

[@Chase_Ryan]

Generally I would say who cares except I literally have heard hundreds of times in the last 3 years “I heard on joe Rogan” ... so yes he has a MASS influence on his. People take his word as fact. They don’t care to do their own research or education because to them doing your own research is listening to Joe Rogan.

[@doratheace]

My brother denies listening to Rogan, but repeats the exact talking points, lol.

[@Tizontheska]

Are we still treating Shoe like a toddler when she says something stupid?

[@Godhatesfatpeople]

It seems to work really well for her. Clowns keep giving her enough rope after she has her usual Vaush "debate apology" episode. Rinse and repeat.

[@theguest1541]

yeah. the breadtube gang is defending there pet liberal. correction, their soc-dem.

[@samsungsnake101]

Here comes shoe with her constant bad takes lmao.

[@thedarkknight221]

Lol, I basically just posted the same thing

[@vsmith1688]

I don't gatekeep. If you like Shoe, whatever. Personally, I've never been a fan. To me, she has just moved on to a new grift now that being fascist adjacent is no longer the in-thing.

[@sanogo3298]

She gives me Jimmy Dore vibes

[@fighterck6241]

It's still the in-thing. It's just such a saturated market that these grifters are trying course adjust into a slightly adjacent niche. This entire generation is f'ed.

[@fajitariñho]

this video is vaush saying “sorry shes really very sweet when you get to know her” while struggling to hold back a snarling dog that is very clearly intent on murder. one day he’ll just let go but there won’t be any word on his choice to hold on, lying to himself and everyone else for so long.

[@KoewlBag]

underrated comment

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

Great comment.

[@towablewarrior2426]

Top tier comment

[@virn333]

Wtf is wrong with you people this is the cult tactics the right mocks you for and you're talking about it like it's a good thing!

[@TheHunterGracchus]

"People like Joe Rogan because he's not an ideologue" means people find Joe Rogan's confirmation of their views especially persuasive because Joe comes across as a natural man, a man who is naive and whose instincts can therefore be trusted.

[@christopherstathis4419]

I honestly can't believe people take this person seriously,just going off her argument in the first few mins. It's comparable to one a high school student would make.

[@TheBigZam]

^This. If it wasn’t for Vaush being her friend she’d be ignored. She’s as brainlite as David Rubin

[@r.i.pmydog7723]

I though she was wtf?!

[@alexd4566]

Mind you that this woman is 31 years of age. Never matured past puberty

[@HalfBackCrack]

Shoe's desire to be one of the boys makes her act incredibly cringe.

[@avatarwan5824]

@@ianwazowski5607 The latter.

[@pentagrammusic3385]

Ah yes, because the BIGGEST podcaster shouldn’t be careful in what he says to his vast audience. Smaller creators understand this, why shouldn’t Joe Rogan be held to the same standard? The fact that he cries online once he gets called out also really doesn’t help his case.

[@archerbluth]

This is it! Joe Rogan has a habit of saying dumb shit and then crying bully once he’s challenged. This is the same guy who tried to confront Dr Gupta because he was unhappy that Gupta was ridiculing his misinformation. It seems he’s found a niche and is pandering to it for the sake of a dollar rather than actually having ‘discussions’.

[@synchronium24]

2 years ago I would've wholeheartedly agrees with Shoe's statement at the beginning of the video. Joe had Kyle and Bernie on his podcast and pushed back against Dave Rubin and Candace Owens, while at the same giving a lot of other right wing bullshit a pass. He was basically the "I'll talk with anyone" guy. I can work with that. And I think at that time Joe represented a lot of Americans who didn't buy into Trumpism but had some "problematic" (as much as I hate that word) takes. That Joe Rogan is no longer with us.

[@SLORB857]

yeah, in principal, as someone who takes umbrage with incessant problematization im sympathetic to where shes coming from. but, we just live in different times right now. the social, cultural, political and intellectual hemispheres of our country are more galvanized than ever and it has fucking changed people. misinformation is like a disease in htis country right now and an inherent distrust of medical consensus does extreme material harm and we cant afford to fuck around with that shit in this country right now. not to say he needs to be yoinked off spotify but it needs to be talked about at least.

[@woobiefuntime]

@@SLORB857 i don't think that he should be removed because optics matter. it makes it look like they are hiding stuff. I know because I hang with fundamentalist

[@mikek9297]

"That Joe Rogan is no longer with us." And no wonder. For his trouble platforming Bernie Sanders, he's been dragged through mud on mainstream media and called every name in the wokescold book. I frankly wouldn't be surprised if he went full Q after such an experience - normie democrats are just insufferable trash.

[@rainbowkrampus]

It's almost like "talking with anyone" has negative consequences when you have no structured ethical or epistemological system. As though, treating all ideas equally lends credence to the destructive ideas which will inevitably win out in the popular conscience, as bad ideas require little thought or explanation or effort. It's as though the whole notion of a reasonable Joe Rogan was a flimsy facade for what was always a pointedly ideological agenda and some people only recognize it now because the logical consequences of his behavior have finally manifested themselves. He was a dangerous, irresponsible POS back then and he's a dangerous, irresponsible POS today. Joe Rogan didn't change. You did.

[@woobiefuntime]

@@rainbowkrampus I gave up on him years ago. the last one i watched was him and Owen Benjamin. They were talking about slapping andy dick if he tried something

[@bazookallamaproductions5280]

this, among other things, is why i flat out do not respect her.

[@heath8358]

I think despite her shitty opinions, any one like her still deserves respect. But it will not make my eyes roll less when she starts tweeting out her horrible takes

[@SLORB857]

no one gives a fuck. move along.

[@kaylalabrynth9483]

Because she's against deplatforming?

[@consciousrat1416]

@@kaylalabrynth9483 Because she doesn't care about ignorant people killing themselves with covid becauase Joe Rogan spread misinformation about it

[@telluhwatboy]

If Shew was around during the civil rights movement she would not be on the side of the oppressed.

[@coleray1413]

Every time shoe has an opinion, I become less convinced of the value of being friendly with her

[@PeteMachini6732]

Shoeonhead has binary thinking of elitism vs populism, and can't differentiate between Right vs Left populism.

[@someperson3116]

"If the left and the right held hands and wheeled a guilotine to jeff besos' house it would be super cool." HorseSh0eOnHead

[@J-Dawg81]

People complained about Stern because they were moralistic pearl clutchers, people criticize Rogan for entirely different reasons

[@JadoDog]

I am *constantly* astounded how Shoe, a political influencer, doesn't understand how *influencing* works. She really doesn't understand how Joe Rogan spreading misinformation on the world's most popular podcast is more than just "trash tv"?

[@LiquidNCAK]

It's amazing how consistently wrong Shoe is

[@marcoparada6652]

How? Serious question.

[@consciousrat1416]

@@marcoparada6652 Well this one was a massive failure on her end. Before this, buddying with right wing populists out of ignorance (hopefully), being limp wristed about Tucker Carlson (a fascist), and building her KZbin career by being mad about leftists and feminists instead of fascists and nazis

[@vulpixelful]

Jersey Shore was responsible with their plot lines though. They had that "gym, tan, laundry" daily routine thing instead of showing people shooting up steroids. The writing was appealing because you sometimes saw meatheads take surprisingly principled views on things. They were pretty much written like left-of-center himbos and "shimbos", regardless of how they were in real life. She's been in alt media too long to remember that mainstream media actually does have standards.

[@ordohereticus3427]

“People like Joe Rogan because he is not an ideologue.” - Sh0e Yeah. She’s got a severe case of brain rot on this matter.

[@awesometwitchy]

She must have missed the JRE episode where Dan Crenshaw kept steering the conversation towards how the Left will weaponize Covid as long as they possibly can in order to push Communism and Joe was like "yeah, that sounds pretty scary." The episode that finally made me unsubscribe by the way, before he left for Spotify. Apolitical Joe my ass.

[@ordohereticus3427]

@@awesometwitchy The man was always a severely partisan hack. Save for a handful of moments from his massively garbage presence online, he generally appeals to and identifies with right wing anti-intellectual populism.

[@ChrisO9ification]

spreading disinformation IMO is way worse then saying bad words

[@mikek9297]

It is. Considerably. That being said, JRE is not "Nature" and anybody who takes scientific information from a podcast done by the Fear Factor guy has only themselves to blame... I don't think it's reasonable, practical or even sane to try and impose quotas on how many "authoritative sources" Joe Rogan has to platform for every funny moron he talks to.

[@jonathanm9069]

Then you must hate the media then.

[@Post-Ioooo]

Shoe on bad more like

[@dimthecat9418]

Your cute

[@ashton7742]

Stop doing this you are only feeding into her humiliation kink Wviosh

[@Dave102693]

Why does Vaush like ShoeOnSh1t so much? She still hasn’t changed as a person. Lol

[@badabingbing474]

Cuz she purty

[@Dave102693]

@@badabingbing474 yeah, thst makes sense.

[@wezzyb8]

Idea: Let's stop pretending ShoeOnHead's opinion on any subject has any value whatsoever

[@rosaeruber225]

i like that

[@tidewell]

"I'm sick and tired of people telling Joe Rogan what to do"... followed by "SHUT THE FUCK UP!" was a sound argument I often used in the 7th grade.

[@lydiafayre9806]

It's generally just healthier for me to not think about Shoe too much, but here you go, algorithm.

[@TheComander5]

All she cares about is aesthetics at this point.

[@Gtarox45]

Imma be honest, I’m not too fond of shoe. I used to watch her back in my right wing days so she just leaves a bad taste in my mouth now tbh

[@dannydevito7000]

Because she hasn't changed, at all. I used to watch her too in my right wing days, and I have changed so much since then. When I look at shoe, I think "wow it doesn't feel like she changed nearly as much as I did"

[@yanniritsarntyios9819]

Don't agree with him all the time? How could she agree with him anytime?

[@Jonas-qg6jw]

When he advocated for legalizing weed

[@flashthompson6566]

@@Jonas-qg6jw anti-vax is his new weed

[@Oldnoname]

She blocked me for saying she's a bit right leaning. Am I wrong? Sheesh

[@t.i.5528]

She's an anti capitalist that supports Bernie Sanders. That's right wing?!

[@Oldnoname]

@@t.i.5528 I swear the "I supported Bernie" is the new "I voted for Obama" the Trumpers would say.

[@t.i.5528]

@@Oldnoname Except Obama is a centrist and Bernie Sanders is a socialist. I dunno about you, but Trumpers don't tend to vote for a socialist. Especially over Trump. Both in 2016 and 2020.

[@Oldnoname]

@@t.i.5528 tons of bernie bros turned full Trumper

[@t.i.5528]

@@Oldnoname They turned full Trumper in 2020. But Shoe0nhead didn't. She continued to support Bernie Sanders over Trump, even saying she couldn't understand how a non-conservative could support him.

[@naamanhubbard1722]

I like the last point because athletes and trainers in fighting have expertise but if one of them was saying something blatantly wrong about a technique then joe Rogan would quickly disagree and correct because of the broader consensus

[@CanteLizzie]

bro you KNOW Joey boy would get all up in arms if someone came on and was like, giving bad advice on how to life weights. Lool

[@nikkovalidor4890]

It's so surreal that I discovered him through watching history clips of him debunking sports related pseudoscience but he's basically peddling pseudoscience to as long as they don't interfere with his love for sports or drugs

[@brendonstephen1246]

Joe rogan spreading misinformation: Shoe: Just let him be he's not that big of a deal

[@ctxx24]

I really wish Vaush would stop talking about Shoe every week she has a shitty take because I don’t care, she’s just kind of annoying lmao

[@SilvesterBathroomStallone]

He needs to just admit his friend is political dead weight and move on.

[@gianniavido2289]

@@SilvesterBathroomStallone dude, Just tell him. You are CIA, you own him!

[@SilvesterBathroomStallone]

@@gianniavido2289 Sorry, that's the Reptilian Branch's job. I don't have the clearance to speak with Agent Kochinski.

[@Sadist-sama]

And Shoe herself would agree with you on that last part lmao

[@rdg7250]

She is a right winger who has adopted some left wing views to appeal to a new audience

[@beezusHrist]

See, I told you guys. She's just naturally a reactionary

[@notleah8700]

Shoe is literally just describing the reactionary version of a safe-space.

[@Xsetsu]

Shoe always comes off as ill-informed, so this is no surprise.

[@RoyGBiv-lc8tv]

“I did not find those arguments particularly convincing.” - Based Vowsh

[@sillycookie]

She's stuck in 2016. Sad.

[@NeoRipshaft]

I feel like this really reveals how Shoe has no understanding of like... super super basic political theory, like a coherent understanding of what 'conservatism' is or how it manifests in society. Like when comparing the substantive and non substantive complaints - the other key factor is that the people whining about Howard Stern... they were conservatives, like Joe Rogan. Rogan whining about media is the equivalent to the people whining about Howard Stern... these are the two things that are alike - both are non substantive, both are self-victimization and crybully behavior - it's like the most basic bitch form of conservative behavior.

[@dannydevito7000]

No you are right, everytime I've watched her I get the immediate feeling that she genuinely has no idea about how anything works beyond the most surface level. She is just pretending to have any clue what she's talking about.

[@Onus6688]

Her take is literally the meme of what we think people that watch those shows fall for lol...

[@unknownuser41190]

I can't think of 1 take of hers that was actually good. Like ever. Yet every lefty stans the fuck outta her & I will never get it.

[@ericthedumbmet4699]

It's only Vaush who does that kind of shit, no leftists worth their salt actually trusts shoe.

[@melanieborne2581]

Her election coverage was funny and a good pipeline.

[@Schweigetherapie]

idk if you want actual answers, but, her first hellworld video was very informative, to me and is probably still a good compilation of a lot of videos that were going around on twitter at the time when the BLM protest were at their height, and show how the police mistreated the protestors. I think that's good, especially since she has a massive audience and was very insitent it stay up, even after youtube deleted it, iirc. Like - she DOES have good takes, let's not act like she never does. But she also has a lot of bad ones. This one is pretty stupid. And I don't think anyone not right-wing will be very impressed by it, tbh?

[@phffffbt]

I love how some guy who works for Biden and "the government" are synonymous in Shoe's mind.

[@sky-magnet]

I can change her duuuuuude!

[@sunfeatherX3]

Shoe is just there. She just says whatever she thinks will get her popularity with whichever group she’s currently losing. :/ I don’t know why we even pay attention anymore. Just let her go larp on the right.

[@CharlesLeSorcier]

At this point the argument that we need to put up with her because she commands such a large audience of "left-adjacent" fans doesn't even stand. She is obviously incapable or unwilling to learn from the criticism she gets. Any of her supposedly left aligned fans should have stopped following her by now. Even when she's not spewing shit takes, she doesn't bring any insight on any of the things she comments on. I wish she would just disappear into irrelevancy

[@adconklin]

Her voice is dripping with privilege

[@neruneri]

Shoe's take died the moment she said that Rogan isn't an ideologue lmfao

[@HatsOnJohn]

Shoe is perpetually stuck in 2014-2016 era "cenrist" politics I fucking swear.

[@leezus7875]

If Shoeonhead bad, then why hot?

[@ownbrandcola2257]

Why does anyone, including vaush, actually like shoe?

[@FloppaFag]

Because she's a woman

[@alleylee8510]

Because they're simps who don't care that she's basically just a female Jimmy Dore.

[@TheHeavyshadow]

I was skeptical of Shoe's argument, but when she said "fucking" for the twelfth time in 2 and a half minutes, that's what really convinced me. But I never understood the "He's just like listening to a dumb friend to hang out with" argument. Like: If I hang out with a dumb friend and he says stupid stuff, the worst thing that happens is that a couple of other friends or partygoers take home wrong information about something by a person of "equal standing". If Joe Rogan says something stupid, hundreds of thousands of people hear it and a lot take it as gospel because it comes from someone famous.

[@skytiger215]

One of her problems is that she constantly treats politics as something both very serious but also a game. We've been through this song and dance before regarding her friendship with Lauren Southern, but now it's "Media and elites bad, unless they have the aesthetic of a dumbfuck."

[@dudeist_priest]

Still waiting for her to be worth tolerating. This didn't do her any favors.

[@edwardgermakovski5438]

Good thing vaush made this channel to exclusively respond to All of shoes takes

[@dustyboi8975]

Thanks Vaush for telling your gf to get in line

[@noname772fp2]

Shoe has always felt very unintelligent and easily influenced. Don’t get the appeal.

[@guillotinepod9988]

I can’t help thinking she has takes like this on purpose sometimes.

[@schnoz2372]

Shoes character arc was exactly like Flowers for Algernon

[@discdoggie]

she’s not smart, she’s not funny. sadly, even her controversial takes are a snoozefest.

[@saga685]

Not remotely surprised that someone who thinks vulgarity for vulgarity’s sake is funny has the most juvenile take on an issue.

[@zzmoonz]

Shoe does know that just because Rogan acts all disengaged isn't the same as him not being ideological.