The Do's and Don'ts of VA C&P Exams

Join CCK LIVE as we discuss major Do's and Don'ts related to VA C&P Exams! Compensation and Pension exams are hugely important in the VA disability claims process, and often required for Veterans to get a VA claim decision. Join us for some crucial C&P exam tips from VA disability lawyers, and what to expect before, during, and after your C&P exam.
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0:00 Introduction
0:55 What is a VA C&P Exam?
3:40 DO Attend your C&P Exams
6:08 DO Understand What Your C&P Exam is About: Service Connection, Increased Rating?
10:02 DO Be Honest About Your Disabilities, Don’t Downplay; Consistency
15:25 DON’T Exaggerate Your Symptom Severity
17:00 DO Request a Copy of Your C&P Exam report
19:15 DO Be Aware of Your Options: Challenge C&P Exam, Hearings, Lay Statements, Private Medical Opinions
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[@scrapguy6816]

Know your conditions. Read the DBQ for said conditions. Get plenty of rest for the exam. And be yourself. Go into the exam with the condition that your there for on your mind 100%

[@gusdelacruz9892]

How can i get the DBQ's?

[@pski2515]

​@@gusdelacruz9892 online.

[@OkiDingo]

@@gusdelacruz9892Google it

[@nathanjackson7069]

@@gusdelacruz9892 27:14 27:14

[@user-ki9sw9kr6x]

The best advice I would give is to keep a journal of your day-to-day activities of how your claimed conditions effect how you go about your day. Example: morning headache. sore knees pain in back at the end of the day. ect.... I broke out the journal and impressed the nurse. All claims were granted.

[@georgycolson9671]

Good idea! Thanks.

[@zackiinu7194]

So was your daily journal inclusive of each of your claimed injuries, or did you keep separate journals for each individual injury (e.g., back pain journal, migraine journal, etc.)? The journal thing seems like great supporting evidence to go along with a medical diagnosis.

[@raynutz1]

During my C&P exam for a heart problem, the examiner ask me directly what I thought was the cause of my heart condition. I knew it was a loaded question and answered: exposure to Agent Orange. I also stressed who it has affected my stamina and my ability to walk long distances with out getting winded and having to sit down and rest. I feel that this won the day for my claim.

[@InvestingwithNickCowles]

I just had my C&P examine to have my PTSD increased (currently 30%). It was through VES and my examiner controlled the conversation for 30 minutes. I had to stop him to tell him my issues and how they were getting worse and was effecting my daIly life. He looked up my records and saw my CIB I got in OIF and said ""Oh, you're getting increased for sure, the proof is there" I want to believe these guys, but something in me feels like these guys just yank our chain to get us up and out of their office. Still awaiting my results but i have my fingers crossed. Will keep you updated on the outcome.

[@eQuariuz]

""Oh, you're getting increased for sure, the proof is there". He has no idea if you would or wouldn't "for sure", since the raters don't just rely on his findings.

[@InvestingwithNickCowles]

@@eQuariuz exactly. Although if my C&P exam went well, plus my personal statement plus my buddy letter from my wife, I’m hoping I can get bumped from my low percentage. Fingers crossed, but we all know how the VA works. 🤣🤷‍♂️

[@eQuariuz]

@@InvestingwithNickCowles Do you know why you got only 30% the first time? What were you missing? I'm waiting on my first result right now.

[@InvestingwithNickCowles]

@@eQuariuz I had my appt right when I got out. Didn’t know what to say and went in blind. Didn’t know anything about the process. That was in 2013

[@eQuariuz]

@@InvestingwithNickCowles Man that sucks. At least you started to educate yourself. I also underreported when I was referred to PTSD treatment and somehow still got a diagnosis. Thank G I saw these videos about NOT doing that, so by the time I got called for C&P, I had started opening up to VA in sessions about SI, real reasons for job losses (anger, choked boss out, flashbacks, scanning everyone and everything...etc etc., so i had some of it on record besides the usual light reporting stuff that I was doing earlier And I had heard about DBQ's and got a look at one early. Also got ahold of what i can only describe as the "examiners dbq" (with notation), so i kind of knew what they were looking for after they ask the Qs. I was being honest anyway, so it didn't make a big diff. in the WHAT, so much as HOW I responded. But since there are no guarantees, I'm not even going to get smug on that. Anything could happen. I do think you should get a bump, if you did it right.

[@johnsb1550]

My C&P examiner was a Gynecologist. Last time I checked, never had one of those. He was doing disability screening with no handicap access, 2 doors down from a massage parlor. Good luck with these "exams". BTW, I was born a male and the car in front of the neon parlor was a new VW white beetle that was covered with red hearts ❤️. P.S. you can't make this stuff up

[@SnoopyStacks]

The military and society has burned into our brains that we should just 'suck it up'.. it can be so difficult for some to honest regarding our pain and discomfort.

[@lg7728]

True! I am glad I was encouraged to stop by sick call before coming to work most my Air Force career.

[@donalddodson7365]

@@lg7728 I was thinking the same thing: I wish I had gone to Sick Call after every RPG, sapper, and US "short round" on top of us, instead of getting wasted in order to sleep. I hope today's active duty are filming and documenting everything, keeping their own logs and medical records and swapping "Lay/Witness" statements to support each other.

[@alexanderhechavarria579]

Can’t go to sick call in a submarine. The Corpsman was a moron only worrying how much radiation we were getting. And prescribing aspirin for headaches. Nothing in my medical records with the exception of my heart palpitations once while underway. After almost 40 years I filed and got a measly 30%. Wow! I saved the government a butt load of money.

[@frankieblea5614]

Exactly! I have made it a life long practice of not showing my pain or discomfort, so now I am dreading my upcoming C&P exam.

[@MetalRipper67]

Its hit or miss with C&P exams. I got extremely lucky with my Nurse Practitioner. I had 14 in one day with her and I left that session feeling that she cared. Go in and be honest and just talk to them about your issues. I came out with a 100 P&T from her. Six months start to finish.

[@prometheus_common7728]

C&P are the gatekeepers which means: The Veterans that DO have valid disabilities get the shaft. I had a severe injury while serving in the military, I had an ACUTE lateral dislocation of my right leg, meaning an incident I suffered completely separated my femur from my tibia and pushed my patella to one side of my leg. It took years, I went from 10% with the VA citing that there was nothing wrong with my knee, to: "Oh wow you've got a problem. It took years (Even with Medical proof from having my military records had surgery in a Military Hospital, had rehab etc. It actually took a lawyer's office (Chrishom, Chrisholm and Kilpatric ) appointed by DAV to go after the VA because they were trying to pull a fast one. My C& P examiner was a crackpot. To this good day I still have problems with my right leg, but it took 6 years before I saw any compensation to help me. Now I have to have a total knee replacement. Veterans shouldn't be subjected to this kind of crap and with my evidence.

[@edwardsanchez3708]

Did you get back pay?

[@eQuariuz]

It seems like their reasoning was that "You DID have an injury, but it was fixed!" lol How long, if any, time passed after discharge did you file claim, and did you seek "continuity of treatment" and keep reporting the issue to the VA in the interim time? That seems to be something the VA uses: "It's been 5, 10, 25 yrs and you never made VA med complaints or sought treatment."

[@prometheus_common7728]

@@eQuariuz My injury wasn't fixed, where did that come from? I had surgery , but have had years of complications: Degenerative bone (RMA), Patella lateral movement and displacement, I wear a brace to keep it from shifting. I had a lot of doctors that didnt know what they were doing and so my knee just got worse.

[@journeyto100channel2]

The VA Raters are the Gatekeepers. C&P is a “One Shot” Docs Appointment where they just only Write down Current Symptoms you Explain or Show. If Outside Providers Paid from VA is appointed to you like a QTC it’s still a C&P Review, not the Actual Rater. Please Explain everything and Don’t hold back. They can Only write down what you say before they Send it off to the VA Rater..

[@judithscales1329]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@derekcasanares4785]

Another great topic 👍

[@cjpolak3227]

Thank you for this, I have my BDD VA Eye exam coming up. I’m dreading it because I’m blind af. Hope you’re getting taken care of.

[@kennethpaul4405]

Very, Very Informative Info...💯

[@byronjasper2873]

Thanks so much. Very helpful

[@CCK_Law]

Thank you for tuning in!

[@johnknorr1140]

I am about two weeks away from my C&P exam for my heart condition watching this video helps me prepare. I thank you for all the information you put out for us.

[@freedomrings5270]

I wish you well on your exam for the heart condition. Me, I am the same way since no one else has heart conditions in the family. I had my visit on July 18th to upgrade my current status.

[@johnknorr1140]

@@freedomrings5270 well, I had my C&P exam and they rated me 100% P&T

[@dougtexas9075]

This is very informative. I have an interview Nov 4, 2022. I did fill out an agent orange claim online and got an interview in a timely manner. A slight disadvantage is that all my medical records are with the VA. I have no outside physician reports. A representative of the VA made an interesting statement in an interview. She said as people age, they tend to develop medical problems. As an example, diabetes and blood pressure problems are made worse from the exposure of agent orange. Plus some other medical problems are affected.

[@frankmorales7905]

Ok I'm learning too. Google how retrieve medical records , needs dates in. Ok now first I know is trying hard on records. As they say makes easier. There might be stuff you don't realize can claim....

[@raymondfristrom875]

😊❤❤❤😂❤❤🎉

[@OkiDingo]

I just had my PTSD C&P. I suggest reading the DBQs for each one. My first exam I didn’t know was just kinda blind sided with questions, but was truthful. But when reading DBQ after it sparked my memory on things I forgot to say. For my next three claims I knew what they were going to ask so I knew what to say.

[@stevenmanson2490]

DBQs??? What's that?

[@OkiDingo]

@@stevenmanson2490 public disability benefits questionnaires (google it and go to the VA.gov Home link) you can get the same questions that the C&P person will ask you so you are prepared to.

[@freedomrings5270]

If it's involving a new claim such as heart, cancer, skin conditions etc. then make sure you cover all this info that you have experienced and seen another doctor for so they get your records released to them. If you plan to upgrade then, this is critical too. I have a condition called cervical spinal stenosis and extreme arthritis in the torso and cervical that has increased that was from a previous military injury but it leaves me unable to stand for more than 15 min. and sit in any comfortable situation. Constantly moving to find relief but sometimes impossible.since the only pain relief I have is Alevee which doesn't do the job. I was in the office on July 18th and the doctor was very clear with his questions and listened even while I was in pain and even my arms, back and neck were hurting. I think there were at least 4 doctors that a release of info sent the same day. Oh, they will be getting a blood and UA so don't go to the bathroom before this is taken. My doctor showed me where the restroom was after our talk but failed to tell me a UA was going to be taken so when I got to the point for blood and UA the blood could only be taken. She told me the UA could be taken on the next visit since that was the circumstance. I found my whole experience while at the VA were good and the staff were very nice and concerned to help get your info in whichever dept you were in.

[@mikerobinson41]

I have never had nor been asked any questions in any C&P Exams I've had to date..next one in a week 🙃

[@trainerpool8919]

I had my c&p for multiple conditions almost 2 months ago....in the decision phase since December 8th. Trying to get an increase from 80 to %100

[@TheRogueDM8322]

Good luck!

[@HERBERTPOWELLJR]

close to 4 hours and 20 minutes , just be forward with the best of yourself , listen and have a good conversation with the examiner you with male or female

[@willard398]

Never go to a C&P Exam 3 days after a hip replacement while on Painkillers! I remember nothing. It’s been a couple months and my VSO ( who is of little help) filed a Supplemental claim for Cardiac Sarcoidosis and new claim for Congestive Heart Failure.. I have found it impossible to get the results of my C&P.. I may have shot my self in the foot. I think I talked the whole time. I’m 100% P&T for PTSD So that’s good.

[@N1co777]

So interesting at the 3 minute mark... I missed my last C&P exam because it was in a completely different state and I have no personal transportation... seems like that do it on purpose IMO.

[@haroldmassey6163]

Keep covering them up with paperwork that say PTSD every time they open your records I am a Vietnam vet God bless you vets

[@sunnycarla8874]

I requested a copy of my C&P exam in Oct…and haven’t received it yet.

[@concken1]

Question - if I provided "buddy letters" with supporting statements to a previously denied claim, should I still bring them to a C&P exam?

[@donalddodson7365]

Thank you very much. First C&P Exam this coming Monday and this gives me a better sense that I am not walking into an ambush. Will be very weird, however, to take 54 years of PTSD and pour that out to a complete stranger. Especially one hired by VA to cover their denial or low ball rating.

[@trancethan]

tell me about it. mine is in 2 weeks and Im at 24 years with it.

[@donalddodson7365]

@@trancethan The Ph.D. psychologist on the referral to the Veterans Evaluation Service contract doc was late arriving. Ushered into the room and there was another "doctor" sitting across the room typing on a laptop. The primary Dr. began asking me questions. Often during my answers she would sit back in her desk chair, cross her arms over her chest and roll her eyes. Maybe she has difficulties with her eyes, I don't know. The other one peppered me with questions, especially about my alcohol use. They tag-teamed back and forth then the lead stood up and said they was all and left the room,. The other one said I should go back to the sign-in counter. At some point I referred to my Statement in Support of Service Connection for PTSD form. The lead said, in a rather derogatory manner, "Yes, we have ALL of your [too much for me to read within the limits of the VA payment] file." At no time was I provided with an opportunity to talk about two important issues to me: NIGHTMARES and SLEEP DISTURBANCES. Option A: wait and get the VA (Viperous Aggravators) Denial, then launch my 2nd expert witness "Independent Medical Opinion" rebutting the denial. Option B: send an objection to an incomplete examination, then wait for VES to set me up for another C&P Exam. Option C: Wait and see if somehow VA awards Service Connection for PTSD, then have 2nd expert witness only address level of impairment. Afterwards I jotted down what I recalled from the interrogation. I would not say it was intense or particularly unpleasant, just missed the point of my PTSD Claim! I went in recognizing "they are the new enemy," replacing the VC and the NVA in my mind. So, not so bad and probably a total waste of time. I recommend searching KZbin for "C&P Exam" and watching the many good suggestions you see there.

[@donalddodson7365]

@@trancethan I received a Rating of 50% PTSD, which results in 80% of 50% VA math since I already had 20% for my ankles. Bottom line is 60% Compensation. I checked against the DBQ and CFR descriptions and believe it is the right rating for my current impairments. How are you doing?

[@trancethan]

@@donalddodson7365 hi Donald. I just did my C&P exam on the 5th. That guy was really good. Seemed like he was on my side. We did a televisit for over an hour. Got really deep. So we’ll see. I have more exams to do. Back / foot / and stomach. I’ve done hearing and PTSD so far

[@donalddodson7365]

@@trancethan May justice prevail and may the Almighty God go before you. All the best, Ethan. Blessings.

[@user-jf6st4cl4p]

Very helpful;would like to have session on pact act and discussion on presumptive conditions like kidney cancer as a result of agent orange exposure. I was denied on claim in 2006. How far Will they go back if approved.

[@johnnyc5587]

I was notified that I won my claim for Tinnitus and now have %10

[@XRakkgruntX]

Depending on response they have to do a hearing test on you, I was in the military same time as you but was infantry. I filed in 2020 for tinnitus, was scheduled for a hearing test a few months later and based on test results I received compensation, minimal really for a lifetime of damaged hearing, but better than nothing. They cannot deny you without a test though because they have no basis.

[@johnnyc5587]

I got my ten percent for the Tinnitus. I’m going to file secondary condition

[@TheROBT1017]

@@johnnyc5587 Did you have to take a hearing test or did they grant you the ratings without one?

[@johnnyc5587]

They gave me a full hearing test at my C&P exam.

[@caffiend.]

@@TheROBT1017 For my tinnitus no exam. For hearing loss there is an exam.

[@signkutter9218]

My first V.A rep told me that i made too much money and I would not qualify for any medical services or compensation. told not to bother. Then he set up a tinnitus claim withouit me knowing and i naturally missed the appointment. This was a fter the Military losing all my medical records and having no record of my DD214..so i spent 5 weeks in limbo on emergency pay in a deserted barracks bay on Fort Dix ...no luggage...not even a damned bar of soap or a tooth brush the first 3 days

[@soapaddict918]

What form is used by a nurse practitioner for a telephone C & P exam for a heart condition ?

[@johnnyc5587]

Can I ask you a question? Along with my Service-connected Tinnitus I was also diagnosed with Severe migraines and Hyperacusis as directly related to my Tinnitus . I will be filing secondary claims for each as I have Nexus letters for both as well. Any advise for me ? Also on the VA form where it asks how to decriibe that your Migraines are connected to my Tinnitus. What should I write? Thank you ,.

[@mamatobz2890]

My husband has an appeal in process for years. Got a call from VA and told “you have a CnP in 4 weeks at 8 am. Two hours away! Can you say 3am wake-up call ugh. When he asked what to bring she says flippedly just you and your smiling face” and when asked what type of CnP she said “just a CnP” he asked again for which condition and got the same. So he is rated for PTSD and this just makes his anxiety worse for the next 4 weeks!

[@jwest6700]

I was given 3 options for my C and P exam and all of these were 2 hours or more away. It’s ridiculous. All they could say is they can pay me for mileage.

[@wecountingmoneyoverhere2517]

It'll be worth it. Positivity! 🤞🏿

[@donalddodson7365]

@Mamma Tobz: any update? Praying your husband stayed focused, defeated their ambush and has gotten some positive movement on the Claim(s). Praying for a good outcome. Blessings.

[@marybernard5981]

@@jwest6700 same for my friend. Had to travel 90 miles for his hearing test. Next one is 97 miles away according to their milage. It's hard when you dont have a good running car. Crazy why they would send so far away when they have a v.a. hospital 60 miles away? So now have to rent a vehicle and stay overnight in motel for 9am appt.

[@freedomrings5270]

I do know how patience can run thin at times and we all want answers NOW but even with the civilian doctors we don't always readily get all the answers NOW. With anxiety, it's hard to understand all this as well. It took me 20 years to find the initial cause of my heart issue by then they were implanting a pacemaker/defibrillator due to the heart wall couldn't beat for me. I was upset that only this one heart doctor gave me the test I needed to understand why I was experiencing such chaos and pain. He checked every nerve to the heart and BAM found it. Now, I am bionic due to the long stretch of trying to find answers and the heart wall will not work. I could be very bitter that this happened to me but I am not. I see things no matter if good or bad to be blessings but again, that's me. As for your husband, I will be praying for you both and pray he has resolution to his questions. As for the PTSD, those symptoms seem to never go away and then triggers can also set them off again. Most of us have PTSD in one form or another but how we manage the mental aspect is up to us as soldiers and of course, our doctors medical and mental health. Again, my prayers are for you and your husband since I know what's it's like to be a military wife because you will be one for Life as he is a Soldier for LIFE; I was a Soldier and Military Wife.

[@williamdudra7058]

I have had the C&P dr tell me to stretch for range to rate low back pain. When I stopped bending because of sever pain and the dr. Pushed my body down because he thought I was not bending far enough for him.

[@ldjohnson214]

What!? That's insane! I hope you report him.

[@pski2515]

I'm sure I'll be nervous during the c&p exam and might forget stuff. Can I save notes on my phone and use it at the exam?

[@anniekate1914]

For Shaun Palmer. on youtube Dewayne Kimble. the title is VA requesting C&P exams when vet submits private DBQ/or nexus.??

[@hippiblue]

My last two exams were remotely over my phone. I feel that this has been the worst year of my life. Everything in my state is on lockdown. No social interaction.

[@wecountingmoneyoverhere2517]

Stay strong!

[@robpike9473]

When I questioned the credibility of a C&P medical Dr the VA just ignored me and still took 30% away from me. I am currently fighting to get that back since it has been a documented issue for over the past 30 years of honorable service

[@Gaming_Biker]

Hopefully, you got this settled & got your rating back or increased. If that happens again, you can always request a hearing thru the VA, where they assign you an evaluator & you can plead your case to them person to person. If you show there has been any improvement whatsoever, the VA can & likely will reduce your rating though. Goes for everyone. They are only looking for ways to reduce the amounts paid out to Veterans.

[@arthurshoto9680]

What do you do when they say you went to C&P exam and you were never informed of an appointment?

[@williamdudra7058]

If the c&p dr says that is is more likely than not directly from your service connected condition and the Va denies the came what are the options.

[@SOCORROGM]

I when to a exam that was out sourced, the moment I walked in to the office the two[2]clerks started to be very open and friendly i just answered the question point blank. They were typing after each answer 😮 other veterans walked in a few minutes later he was firting a n they're were both were as well with him,both typing away crazy. Remember your our being viewed an judged time u walk in

[@zackiinu7194]

I hope you got rated deservedly. “Open and friendly” would make me suspicious. 👍

[@josh2hrd996]

When I retired from the AF (2001) I went to the VA for, what I think was, a C&P Exam. I had a list of things I believed were wrong with me -I had had a brain tumor -and had had surgery; I had had an accident at the airport -and suffered a broken tibia and fibula -and had been medevacd (from Africa to Europe), etc. I was totally naive and ignorant about how the VA worked, and the examiner did his ‘thing’ and told me that there were too many things on my list and that I could only claim a limited number of disabilities. He asked for my ‘rough’ list (to keep) of what was wrong with me - and eventually gave ma a rating. In retrospect, I believe he was very dismissive of my case and even ‘low-balled’ me! Do you think I have a case and can you represent me?

[@futureproof001]

I understand the reason and need for DBQ forms. But for us that live in foreign nations many doctors refuse to use a form rather than just creating a statement and giving you. Some sate they feel the forms are designed to intimidate (their words) them so they won't use them.

[@shawnthegreat4281]

Can you get a copy of old report or your original report

[@mruofacat]

I am a 72 year old Vietnam and Cold War vet that is filing my first ever claim. I have never been to a VA doctor or facility. All of my post service health care has been through an extremely prestigious Clinic that everyone would recognize the name. My wife was an RN there and now retired. I assumed that I would be submitting my records when I submitted the claim. I went to the state VFW service officer today and he all but told me don't bother and he proceeded to file a claim for 3 out of my 7 conditions. He did not even complete the form where it asked for treating facilities. I am concerned I will get everything denied and have to fight to get my records included and my case reviewed. He told me to not bring records to my C&P exam as the examiners do not look favorably on that. I mentioned that I am filing for PTSD but was meeting later with a psychiatrist who will be writing a Nexus Letter for me and possibly completing a DBQ for PTSD. He dismissed that idea as not needed. Also, in my 45 minute appointment I found out more about him than he did about me. Should I be concerned?

[@MB-js4us]

Hello CCK, You said that I should let the VA know if I feel the examiner messed up or didn't write down what I told them...what's the best way to do that and which form should I use? Thanks!

[@mexvette8209]

I’m going to audio record my C&P exam so that I can use there assessment of my conditions as evidence if rebuttal is required! If they don’t go by the DBQ for your condition or conditions then I’ll be poking holes into their credibility! I’m in a one party consent state. In some states you can’t record them without their permission. So know the laws in your state. Good luck!

[@Gaming_Biker]

I reported my shoulder problems from rotary issues I sustained in service & was rated at 0%, 9yrs later it had gotten much worse. In a follow-up C&P for increase, I limited my motion to where I have extreme pain occur, based on advice given to me, & the examiner claimed I was not fully cooperative, but the VA still in raised my rating to 20% for each of my shoulders. Just odd how examiners are able to say you’re half-assing when you’re really not. Sadly, the VA doesn’t care about your pain levels, just if you have range of motion or not. I was a firefighter in service & was told my knee problems are not service related & was told it was because I was overweight.

[@Maab32]

What kind of documents did you provide with your increase, if I may ask. I'm at 10% for each shoulder currently. I would think if it's service connected, maybe just a personal statement?

[@Gaming_Biker]

@@Maab32 So, for my shoulders, I specified what was going on & had to state that they have gotten worse. Doesn't matter if they are the same as before or worse, if you don't say they're worse, then the VA won't entertain a re-evaluation. Keep in mind that VA Benefits are paper pushers that are black & white on regulation & they're the part of the VA you're evals are going to, NOT the medical side. You & someone close to you can fill out supporting statements to push your case & explain how this impacts your day to day life, be thorough & detailed. Don't try to down play or "man up" your statements. Really say what is going on & it may feel like you're fluffing it a bit, but that's a side effect of our conditioning & there is no shame in saying how it is; they cannot say anything about your pain levels because that is subjective to you & only you. If you claim pain, then I would suggest getting w/ a free representative that can help you navigate the VA system. DO NOT PAY for services, you've paid enough w/ time in service. The form for a supporting statement from yourself is VA Form 21-4138 (shortened to VA Form 4138). The form for a supporting statement for a witness, i.e. your spouse, family member, friend, etc, is VA Form 21-10210 (VA Form 10210). Get w/ you local VFW or ODVA rep or whomever is free. I got w/ my local ODVA rep at our local Veteran Center & signed over power of attorney, so they could file for me where needed. As long as it's service connected/rated already & you have those forms turned in for a new claim, NOT an appeal, then you'll just need to go get evaluated by LHI/Optum (3rd party that VA uses in my area at least). Keep in mind that you may need to file for multiple shoulder issues in order to have one of them stick, which is where having a free rep assist you may be beneficial. Now here's where some will say you're working the system & be elitist or whatever, but all of that is ppl trying to make themselves feel better for screwing themselves over & wimping out of fighting for what they earned. Your range of movement needs to stop where the pain starts. The VA doesn't care about your pain, they only care about your ability to move. If your ability to move causes pain, you stop when it starts to hurt to indicate that you can't go further w/o aggravating the injury. It will feel like you're lying, but they want to exploit that feeling, so they can say you're exaggerating & not pay you what you really rate. This is the govt taking advantage of your conditioning again. If you can't find the forms, let me know & I can get them to you somehow. I also have example letters for PTSD that have personal info redacted. The letters are to show you how to word your explanations to elaborate on what caused the issue & how it impacts you daily. If you have PTSD, then you can use that as a reference for that as well. I went from 50% PTSD to 70% PTSD by using these forms w/ my wife's statement in support, which is a huge jump.

[@Maab32]

@Garm19 awesome man. Thanks for detailed reply. Wow. Yea I was looking to make the final push on my overall rating and didn't realize I had my horrible shoulders starring right at me for an increase. I can't even hand my kids stuff in the back seat, my arm can't go that direction. I would say they have been lowballing me there for over 10 years. Again, thanks for all that info! Very helpful

[@Gaming_Biker]

@@Maab32 Not a problem. I feel that too. Had rotator cuff injuries myself & putting on jackets alone are a chore.

[@lancemousel3457]

Always be honest

[@michaelstanfield225]

is it ok to mention that social security just approved 100% disability for same service connected Asthma/COPD presumptive disease i will be discussing with expedited C&P exam thr VA Higher Level review set up due to a error to assist on intial claim

[@iamsatch3697]

I had no knowledge on what my C&P appointment was for until I was in the examination room so NO the VA did not prepare me before hand so I disagree on the part on the VA letting you know before you get to your appointment I order to gather your thoughts/questions

[@k9usa149]

Great video I am at 92 % and shooting for 100% with 2 claims (1 service connected and 1 secondary). I have just submitted a Fully developed claim; used all your advice!! Just wondering if one submits a solid FDC with a diagnosis, all medical evidence, solid nexus letters with "more likely than not, in fact highly likely" written by my Doctor, coupled with a solid personal statement (in a short concise manner conveying the landscape); all the things you address in your videos. Question: if I submitted a Fully developed claim recently with all medical evidence, nexus letters, full diagnosis and full documentation, does this help me to NOT have the VA call me for a C&P exam? Thank you

[@purpleheart63]

I went to a C&P exam, and never even got an exam. He just sent a denial letter. I was told to report him for fraud, which I did. I have no idea if the VA did anything about it.

[@ppedro1158]

Question: why is blood work needed for a c & p exam..

[@kCI251]

I'm shocked that the VA doesn't call and ask the veteran when they would like to schedule a C&P. These are forced on veterans with sometimes very little notice.

[@gilbertwest70]

I totally agree with you

[@sheiladawncrumm686]

I was found 100 percent disabled in los Angeles California

[@RJthing]

Why do California's always mention their city, who cares

[@halburke9115]

Who do we contact about rescheduling an exam. I was contacted by an outside examiner but as not given the location . Who can I contact. THANKS

[@williamdudra7058]

Claim

[@gtoexpress8111]

Question why would the VA give a veteran two different c&p exams while the veteran is on remand on the exact same injuries the first exam was done over 2 years ago and the VA still hasn't adjudicated the claims yet ???

[@donalddodson7365]

@GTO EXPRESS: My guess is the VA (Viperous Aggrevators) are trying to fuck with your mind. Suit up, go on the attack with good medical evidence and details about the way your military service is still messing up your life. Keep up the good fight. Do not give up and let them win!!

[@jondavid8071]

If I have a written statement to add does the person conducting the exam read your statement?

[@McClellan5172]

I have 70% PTSD Rating. And in my BVA Award letter. It's saying the samething. For an increase. My main problem is my hallucinations and delusions. I have had many of those episodes. And gotten worse. While filing for this with my VSO. If this not given. Can they take away my 70%. Is it safe to say good.

[@kglocsta]

Can you take notes into the C&P exam?

[@caffiend.]

I would say yes. You can bring notes so you can take notes too.

[@biggrizz4447]

And people should know the goniometwr looks almost like a really big protractor

[@prawnstar502]

how can i have buddy statements and third party members if i dont have any friends.. im not close to anyone or keep in touch with any family members..

[@cameronbrown321]

Find some. Co-workers, neighbors. Anything. If not well just make sure that exam goes well

[@oldArmyVet]

Same

[@slickwilly6868]

​@@oldArmyVet Not to sound like an asshole but this is the reason that it pays to surround yourself with individuals who have respected professionals.

[@jeffroderick5783]

What if One was in during the VEAP...Era?...ETS Honorable...But couldn't afford to make the Reserve Weekend?...during the VEAP Era?... Click...Busy Signal... PS... The VA saved my Life...around 5 years ago.. Bilateral Inguinal Hernias... Thank YOU to my DOCTOR at Lake Baldwin...and The Fine Surgical TEAM...at Lake Nona...I can hardly walk anymore...My punishment for being so arrogantly Fast...during my Life....I'm 56...What can I Do?....my hearing does almost resemble a Hearing Test...during peace and quiet...Not exaggeration...or Malificent?... What was that word?... my R Shoulder...Sometimes L Shoulder..R knee and ankle and Chronic Neck Disorder...Who can I call for Help?... VEAP?... Click....Busy Signal...Thank YOU

[@jeffroderick5783]

I mean... THEY Literally saved my Life... Thank YOU....Forever....But should I just keep hobbling around until a knee just won't work anymore?... VEAP?.... 56?... Click... Busy Signal...

[@dawnjones8824]

Can I get help in increasing and permanent

[@terrytryon2198]

Hello my name is Terry Tryon please help me somebody I keep on getting turn down I do have paper from the VA doctor dinos PTSD depression

[@waynegodwin6297]

They wouldn't even look at my records from the VA they told me they were not allowed to thats the only records I have MRI Ct scans

[@anthonybuttofucco7973]

I had virtual C&P exam today for PTSD(non combat). For anyone who has had one, is it normal for them to not even ask about the event the stressor is related to? The Dr. didn't say a single word for 17 plus mins of the exam, he said he was reading my statement , my statement was only a 1 page letter.

[@donalddodson7365]

@Anthony Buttofucco. I only have had one PTSD C&P with a contract psyche from Veterans Evaluation Service (VES). Based on many comments on KZbin, warnings by Combat Craig, CC&K and others, I would say our experiences are the norm, not the exception! They are paid by repeat business from the evil masquerading as the "Compensation & Pensions" silo of the VA (Viperous Aggrevators)! As long as these so-called C&P Examinations are permitted by our collective dildos called Congress it will continue. Make sure you meet the Appeal deadline, retain a good law firm and good Independent Medical Opinion to support your diagnosis, nexus & impairment. Keep on fighting.

[@eQuariuz]

He was supposed to read it BEFORE the exam. Did he ask questions from the DBQ?

[@jarrodlangford7692]

Any update?

[@daleheiserjr]

If I am doing a C&P for a secondary injury, are they going to review the primary Service Connected Injury during the exam?

[@cameronbrown321]

Yes. They re look at everything. Thats what happened to me.

[@donalddodson7365]

@Dale Heiser: IF you already are "Service Connected" for a primary that should not be a matter interrogation. However, my sources say often the VA Claim Denier wants a backdoor way to re-decide the Primary Service Connected Claim. If you are also disputing the Primary rating, may get blurred with the Secondary Claim. Be prepared to provide evidence on both would be my plan. Stay focused, expect an ambush. Watch for "trip wires." All the best.

[@bishopharoldparker3467]

What are the forms

[@richardschulz8191]

www.benefits.va.gov/compensation/dbq_publicdbqs.asp

[@user-jp4ex4mk2b]

I was never offered a C&P exam they just denied me by letter

[@RJthing]

They have a duty to assist I believe, exam.

[@markpileggi643]

Is it normal to do a C&P exam and then four months later have the VA tell you that you need another?

[@TheRogueDM8322]

If there is extra information needed, a follow up exam would be normal. Lately I’ve noticed since the VA has been outsourcing their C&P exams, the wait between the exam and approval has shortened up.

[@Frankie5Angels150]

I am literally listening to this in my car. On my way to C&P Exam for lumbar back pro. I’m surprised maybe a little disappointed that they got me driving almost 50 miles with a bad back, and I’m seeing a nurse practitioner or a PA I forget which, but I already have a board certified orthopedist spine specialistwho said that my condition is more than likely caused by a plane crash I was in 1983. After this, C&P Exam , should I immediately notify the VA that the examiner was not qualified to override Board certified medical doctor?

[@rixar139]

☘ Irish Honey Badger - 👍

[@anniekate1914]

VA puts on the internet C & P exams so you can print out and have your Dr. fill them out , so why do i need to go to there C & P exam?

[@shaunpalmer2944]

Where at?

[@anniekate1914]

this is on KZbin Dewayne Kimble. The Title is. VA requesting C&P exams when vet submits private DBQ and/or nexus. WHY??

[@Filam_Prepper]

I know VA is messed up before leaving in 2009, A buddy who got shot had 9 bullet holes in his body during deployment, they had to leave his belly open for weeks to check and prevent infection, he can hardly walk, if theres a fire he is the last one to get out of the building, they gave him 50% 😂😂😂

[@60eyewatcher]

C&P exams Please.........CMP will confuse veterans who are Not familiar.

[@JesusChrist-bz1bp]

I'm M I

[@nairb9321]

The examiner's goal is to DENY YOU YOUR CLAIM. Plain and simple. All they did was look at their computer screen, check boxes and said thank you that's all.

[@lizarriaga1521]

I think its hilarious that they can consider "malingering" when these people dont live a day in our shoes!!!! I just had cervical discs replaced... At the doctors office... you say a 20 and they take into consideration that they dont know how you feel, but they consider how you feel. My neurosurgeon stated after my surgery that it was worse than what he thought once he opened me up. I think all of these C&P examiners should actually be real doctors not just "pretend medical examiners" saving the VA some money!

[@r.w.carter9366]

I've experienced so many secondary conditions from my cervical surgery and the VA has denied every single one of them, even though they are of record "Favorable Findings" and I am receiving medication and treatment for them and they only started or were made worse post-surgery! The VA is unreal! Jeez

[@lizarriaga1521]

@r.w.carter9366 Sorry you are going through all of these things. I hope you have a good day!

[@frankfittante2608]

So I can bring my wife to testfy to my problems

[@georgettaphelps5718]

Betag

[@johndoe6859]

Please properly pronounce "Important".