Chomsky on Jordan Peterson, Postmodernism, & Ali G

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0:00:00 What are the traits in the left that have changed in the past century? What traits remained the same?
0:02:58 Chomsky’s opinion on identity politics
0:03:37 When does the left go too far? When does the right go too far?
0:06:31 Chomsky’s reminiscences of the anti-war resistance movement in 1960’s
0:07:54 Is the line between the right and the left blurring? Do the left and the right still exist?
0:09:30 Public and private Media in the US
0:10:03 The First Amendment and its interpretations
0:10:41 Privatization of Radio, Television, and the Internet
0:11:14 What is the difference between Chomsky’s anarchist beliefs and contemporary libertarianism?
0:12:49 Working for corporation as an extreme tyranny
0:13:54 Early Industrial Revolution: Wage labor is indistinguishable from slavery
0:14:30 Should a Holocaust denier have a freedom of speech?
0:15:36 Holocaust denial
0:16:54 Does Chomsky disagree with Jordan Peterson?
0:17:47 Do people get the governments they deserve?
0:18:11 Can the principle of bureaucratic affinity apply to educational institutions?
0:19:19 The last bastions of the relative freedom of expression of research
0:20:14 Do academics still maintain the status quo?
0:21:25 Prosecution of intellectuals
0:22:55 Does academia fit a propaganda model?
0:25:23 Should students not to go to universities?
0:26:28 Disadvantages of online education
0:27:49 Christian anarchist Ivan Illich and his popularity among social activists
0:28:34 Student activism and social movements
0:29:00 How academia lines up with the status quo and at the same time is on the forefront of social change
0:30:21 What is an anarcho-syndicalist’s take on education?
0:31:57 Would alternative platforms in education be neglected in public sphere?
0:32:43 Conversation with Michel Foucault and Ali G
0:34:49 Thoughts on Postmodernism
0:35:27 Chomsky’s daily routine
What you're seeing is un-edited, raw footage for an imminent documentary Better Left Unsaid betterleftunsaidfilm.com on the topic of "when does the left go too far?" Visit that site if you'd like to contribute to getting the film distributed (in 2020) and seeing more conversations like this weekly.
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The conversation is between Curt Jaimungal (top left), Noam Chomsky (middle), and Peter Glinos (top right). [though this changes part way through the video]
Subtitles in Spanish by Filosofía en Castellano.

[@TheoriesofEverything]

If all you're interested is his comments on Peterson, it's segmented it out here (3 mins): kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKLRiKSijrKcpq8

[@EH-pm1ke]

What a shame that he would write someone off based on someone else's hit piece. This is what's wrong with discourse today.

[@1neomonkey]

@Gus Erland - You apparently don't know the meaning of "theft." What we pay for in taxes is an earned benefit where we the people receive a greater good in return. I never met a thief who stole money from me only to return it back to me for a greater sum of money.

[@blaynestaleypro]

​@Gus Erland I guess what you're saying re: legalized theft is something like hierarchy vs no hierarchy? People should be compensated equally (no hierarchy) vs people who are competent and hard working compensated fairly (hierarchy). We all want to live in peace and love and harmony and all that shit, right? I think the way to utopia is when the most competent and hard working do so for the sake of the betterment of our world and not to necessarily be compensated. Maybe that is compensation in of itself. And I do think it is. That is a way of taking responsibility. Responsibility is key theme in Peterson's teachings.

[@blaynestaleypro]

@Gus Erland Yes obviously money is compensation. Doing things for the sake of the betterment of all of society is also compensation in a way on some level. There's a lot of benefit to it other than monetary. I mean, one day maybe hundreds of years from now, you don't think money will be a thing of the past? Isn't out ultimate aim to work towards a true utopia ultimately? Because no other system is truly sustainable. Capitalism as it is now isn't. That's for sure. Socialism is definitely not.

[@hjalmarwidmark5906]

@gus Erland & @Unbelievable thank you for sharing your thoughts & thank you for your etiquette

[@Creatureofclay]

Why would you put Jordan Peterson in the title when literally all he said was that he didn’t know enough to talk about it.

[@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat]

Oh he implied in his double talk feigned ignorance that Jordan Petersen is a lightweight and equatable with Hitler. I've never been impressed with Chomsky, I don't think he explains his philosophy persuasively through his passive aggressive cowardice to constantly be vague and circular in his glib dismissals, nor his sycophants who make him their athiest diety.

[@FranciscoSmirsley]

Click bait?

[@victoriog]

@@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat passive aggresive? he is a philosopher not a military. I just care about the content, not the "style" of his speach wich has 0 imoportance.

[@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat]

@@victoriog What he is, is superfluous in his obvious assessment, and superficial in his vapid intellect for exploiting typical charlatan tactics of stating an arbitrary "truism" as a platform without defining a contextual purpose for why or how a meaningful pursuit can redeem or remedy toward a complimentary or contrary pragmatic result. His useless content is to speak in circles of vague cynicism for sowing discontent without solution. I think discipleship for the alleged insightfulness of pompous polymaths like Noam Chomsky and Bertrand Russell are detrimental to a psyche. And I have no idea what militarism would have to do with Chomsky's disgraceful use of psychological passive aggression. Amongst other things, I think you may need to consult a dictionary.

[@duconmicro4331]

@@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat "discipleship for the alleged insightfulness of pompous polymaths like Noam Chomsky and Bertrand Russell" ...or Jordan Peterson.

[@crisisactor420]

Chomsky looks good for 900 years old

[@nicanornunez9787]

And the crazy part is that he changed the linguistics game like when he was 20 or something. But to be fair back in the day there was only one lenguage and then God send others to put us against each other cause some building was blocking his view.

[@one4320]

He used to be known as Noah, when he was a boat builder.

[@publicopinion3596]

@@nicanornunez9787 Mhm god...

[@chopin65]

LOL. Thanks for the laugh.

[@robertburnett5561]

May all of us funny guys get close to that age. Or be half as smart. No chance. Back to the brewskys and game. Darwin was wrong. At least in my neighborhood.

[@liberty-matrix]

"The Democratic Party abandoned the working class a generation ago." ~Noam Chomsky

[@HansJrgenFurfjord]

Yet: "Vote Blue No Matter Who" - Noam Chomsky

[@SHEESHKAH]

@@HansJrgenFurfjord He said that the democratic party had regressed in its support o the working class. He said the GOP was committed to the destruction of human life in the short term. I guess I know who I'd vote for based on that calculation.

[@timothycalco8089]

@@HansJrgenFurfjord The republican party has not just abandoned the working class... It's actively trying to destroy it. Social Reactionaries, manufacturing consent, etc. Democrats are at least more concerned about the climate and a more likely platform to bring progressive change.

[@Morawka1]

Chomsky’s argument on this assertion is weak. He simply says the left abandoned labor unions, but it was the China bill, passed by a super majority that ended unions. All the jobs got shipped overseas, killing the union mans bargaining power. Clinton signed it, sure, but he did so to save face. His veto was going to get overriden. That bill was written by republicans. One could also make the argument that the passage of the ACA, targeting Uber wealthy with taxes, and regulations on environment and working conditions are all pluses for the working class. I feel Chomsky doesn’t grasp the realities of politics. Democrats haven’t been in power but 3 times since the 1970’s. With the structure of our political system, with the senate and congress holding significant power, especially the senate majority leader, parties have to focus on one or two key pieces of legislation before their political capital is spent. And they must do all of thus holding all 3 branches of government. There is no compromise anymore. The right went nuclear when Obama got elected.

[@cosuinofdeath]

They never cared for them in the first place

[@buteverybodycallsmegiorgio]

Right or wrong, I hope I get to Chomsky's age with his kind of mental agility.

[@movement2contact]

Well, yeah... He's like in the

[@dorianphilotheates3769]

Giovanni Giorgio - I know I won’t: I was never nearly so mentally agile as Chomsky to begin with; in the second place, I even have trouble remembering my dog’s name - and I’m only forty.

[@TxxT33]

Might be tough. The man has been incredibly sharp all his life and like a muscle the more you work the mind the better it gets.

[@rabmcnair4488]

Very few people get to this level. Chomsky is a giant and one of the great thinkers of our times.

[@MrHammerkop]

@@rabmcnair4488 In linguistics, yes. In politics and sociology, he's just another misguided intellectual tempted by his ego and eminence to publicly air highly questionable opinions. A great disappointment, but it does not or should not detract from his magisterial place in linguistics.

[@intelienglish9766]

Title: "Noam Chomsky on Jordan Peterson" Chomsky: "I don't really pay him any attention"

[@maksgonopolsky8374]

@John Dunlap Except Peterson constantly states that the left and the right and a conversation and compromise between the two is absolutely necessary for a functioning society, very clearly, over and over.

[@elpadresuerte]

cant argue. that's why he washes his hands clean.

[@giovannimannelli2158]

@@elpadresuerte at what point of the video is this part?

[@joans101]

Or: i don't pay attention to the cognitive dissonance caused by him.

[@Bruhaha9]

'I don't pay attention to him but I'm sure he's near Attila the Hun politically'... Lost touch if he ever had it.

[@Jimmy4video]

"Let's interview Noam Chomsky!" "Should we do some research first?" "Nah"

[@renskigonski6677]

rofl

[@superlyger]

It’s just a basic questionnaire. Not meant for Chomskians.

[@billytheweasel]

Nobody can match Noam's research and analysis.

[@lukegibson9410]

What research? Chomsky's views can be summarized in : 1.) Anti-capitalist because wage labor equals slavery. 2.) 3rd world problems are because of the US foreign policy. (Always the case) 3.) Republicans are worse than ISIS.

[@dadude5632]

@@lukegibson9410 It's not quite like that, but you cracked me up nonetheless 🤣👍🏻

[@tomcartwright7134]

As far as “ the working class” both Democrat and Republican parties are the enemy.

[@phasespace4700]

That’s like saying Jay Z and the holocaust are both terrible. It may be a true statement but completely misses the point that one is considerably more terrible than the other.

[@daphnetruman]

Yes, they are equally to blame for our problems. This is proven by the fact that including Joe's term, Dems and Repubs have had equal time in the executive branch since the change of 1980. The legislative branch as well has been controlled nearly equally by both. Only a stooge would think there is much difference between the two at this point. That is our modern electorate though, stooges.

[@QuranLion]

You mean the people with those created institutions. The institution itself can logically do nothing.

[@cliffgaither]

@@phasespace4700 :: Give "Tom Cartwright" a break. He did write :: "As far as 'the working class' both ... ". You are also right ! The Republicans don't, cannot hide their contempt for the working-class. The Democrats, occasionally, throw bones.

[@Digital_PeterGriffin]

@@phasespace4700 I refuse to play the lesser of two evils game, it’s bullshit and just exists to screw the average person over. Idc if one is a little less bad than another, which at the end of the day is up to interpretation itself. The dems and republicans are on the same team, they are corrupt and do not care about the average person. All the care about is lining their pockets. I don’t care if one side occasionally throws the populace a bone when they’re feeling generous, they’re both a cancer on the idea of freedom and America

[@thejew1789]

“With Foucault and with Ali G” Chomsky: Well, those were pretty different...

[@DMJ1978]

BOOM SHAKALAK!! Now tell me about biopolitics and the history of madness.

[@kevin_dasilva]

@@DMJ1978 "Biopolitics", damn. That's a new one for me

[@wyattsiefert2759]

He is transforming into Gandalf. He will live another four centuries, at least

[@eoghan.5003]

When he dies he'll come back as Chomsky the White!

[@matsuda1994]

"Noam...that was my name..I am Chomsky the White."

[@teslastellar]

Hope so 👍

[@frankfeldman6657]

One hopes.

[@publicopinion3596]

Lol I wish man

[@smudger304]

“Let’s get right into the questions” Peter “oh yeah!” “Peter you can mute your mic ok” (Dies inside) “Got it”

[@behinddoornumber1]

😂😂😂

[@pocketsofoceans9248]

theyre right next to each other and will give one another a feedback loop if someone doesnt mute their mic

[@MarvinMonroe]

He did get owned haha but I mean come on let's be real it's Noam. And props to telling him to mute. Way too many times I've heard talks be ruin because someone is breathing too loud, or worse. And the host is too "polite (scared)" to say anything

[@roryomalley3183]

😂😂😂😂🤣

[@BradfordHills]

Some of the questions asked, seemed to indicate that the interviewers did not have a deep understanding of the subjects they were inquiring about. but many people think along the lines of the questions asked, so it was useful.

[@good4gaby]

Yes, these are profound subjects that definitely require more than a modicum of understanding. It’s too easy to form opinions that we already have without context.

[@schrire39]

"I have only have two questions and they are super-quick: What are your thoughts on post-modernism?" In what universe is that a quick question?

[@joseba508]

Yeah. Noam Is totally preaching a more educated and universally accepted view point. Curt just seems to be fishing for insults to a particular group which is really sad. Not that hes wrong, but people should be able to determine whats wrong with post modern Marxism themselves. These guys are totally playing into internet partisanship which sucks. The questions could have just been a waste of Neom's time, but thankfully since he was talking most of the time he totally recovered it with education.

[@volksy7261]

😂😂😂😂 Yep.

[@elpacificador2852]

If you are seeking a new and different explanation of the truth that makes sense, search for "Global Truth Project" in Google and click the 1st result, then click on "The Present" and read what it says. This is truth you can check. I recommend that you do not disregard this message.

[@damonberry9123]

@@elpacificador2852 it's not that good though really. it's not like no one else talks about these topics, and when they do they tend to interrogate them more (e.g. the nature of consciousness)

[@robinbeers6689]

@@joseba508 I have gotten the impression in several interviews done for this project that the questions were fishing for insults toward the radical left that cold then be edited down to quick "gotcha" statements. It will be interesting to see the edited versions of these thoughtful nuanced statements once they get into the finished project.

[@babasingh6606]

So painful to hear yet another group of youngsters ask Chomsky the same dumb questions

[@geinikan1kan]

So you must have watched and read a lot of Chomsky. I recall reading his writing in the 1980s. These questions were pretty good. No worse than any questions I would ask. Which question in particular caused you pain? Or do you just need to pull a tooth?

[@user-nc9pc3gr4c]

Chomsky can only answer dumb question. This guy is a moron. He has no understanding of the history of economics and governments that suppress capitalism.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

From: Noam Chomsky Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:56:25 -0500 To: Drew W Hempel (by way of Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: Minnesota Dear Drew Hempel, God save us from our friends -- not for the first time. I'm a little surprised that Brokaw would credit a source like that. Surely he wouldn't in the case of anyone who falls within approved doctrinal bounds. You're quite right about activists not being willing to read. I get a good measure of it when publishers send sales records or in the signing frenzies after I give talks. In both cases it's overwhelmingly the small pamphlets with interviews, etc.; easy reads, and short. But it's not just activists. Same with academic scholars. It's very rare for them to go beyond the limits of the guild, a practice far more pronounced in the social sciences, history, etc., than in the sciences, something I've observed from a lot of first-hand experience in the last 1/2-century. It's too bad about Guerin-Rocker, and in fact all of the rich literature on anarchism. Contemporary anarchists -- at least those who use the name -- seem to divide, mostly, between people who don't want to read and those who are immersed in often arcane scholarship. There are exceptions, of course, but the tendencies are noticeable. It was quite different in the days when workers education was a normal part of everyday life for great numbers of people, and labor-based media were common fare. No plans for reissue of At War with Asia or For Reasons of State, much to my regret. In fact, they were scarcely looked at in the first place. Wrong story. Even left academics don't want to hear such things, and it went -- and goes -- beyond the interests of most activists. How far the anti-war movement was from understanding anything that was going on was revealed pretty dramatically by the reception of McNamara's awful memoirs -- actually welcomed by leading figures as a vindication of their stand. Few could comprehend what an incredible display of apologetics it was. Wrote a few things about it, which I noticed could not be understood even by left academics, for the most part. The Party Line is much more influential than many think. Thanks for sending along the excerpt from what you've been writing. Interesting, and well done I think -- but then, I would. I've read some of what Zerzan has written, under various names. Occasionally, out of curiosity, I've written brief letters asking if he could supply some of the sources for particular quotes, which I know he has invented (though I didn't say so). I'm constantly promised that they'll be coming. They won't, of course. This is just a silly game, in my opinion, defaming the good name of anarchism -- not for the first time; there's a rich history of that. Noam

[@jonm7888]

@@dadude5632 he tries to answer every email he gets too.

[@pluckyduck11y]

Chomsky was challenged by a couple of these questions. He had to mince words and give tentative concession more than once. In such a short interview, that's quite rare. But how do you account for the fact that this interview has over a quarter million views and 88% approval? Do you attribute that to JBP's fanboys dominating KZbin or something? I wouldn't. Chomsky has plenty of fans online and they've been around longer. I find it strange how you could appreciate Chomsky's grace while being so rude. This was a fine interview. You think they were operating in bad faith? Then explain why and how. Resorting to insults is lazy. However unfair you thought the interviewers were, they were not so lazy.

[@willwalthamforest8706]

He's so patient with those kids

[@johnmaisonneuve9057]

Prof. Chomsky has so much patience in answering questions, some of which come with a lot of presumptions that require correcting, explanations, to expose the falsehoods.

[@kenjohnson6326]

These guys are only a notch or two above Ali G. As someone below pointed out: "a testament to Chomsky's generosity."

[@ucokalpigari3933]

Chomsky is a great linguist but his political ideas are insane. If he wants 'anarchy' he should try Somalia. Also, listen to his wild claims: Western corporations are worse than Stalinism. Stalin starved millions of kulaks to death. How is this worse than Walmart?

[@kenjohnson6326]

@@ucokalpigari3933 Pay attention to what you're reading and hearing. I didn't comment on Chomsky's ideas.Somalia isn't an anarchist state. Try to learn something, and not be hopeless. Start learning by reading Chomsky -- and start there by learning what he means by anarchism. Think about how authority works in your world, how extreme and subtle it is, and what it has done to you.

[@ucokalpigari3933]

@@kenjohnson6326 Maybe you could learn not to make ad homimen attacks. Chomsky is a delusional man. Why don't you research his 1977 defense of the genocidal Khmer Rouge in Cambodia? He hates America so much he is willing to believe the Moaist butchers of the KR were a positive thing for humanity. A deplorable man who should have stuck to linguistics.

[@kenjohnson6326]

@@ucokalpigari3933 No, he did not support them. One of the many slanders against him. But the American government did support them -- officially supported the KR. Look it up.

[@ucokalpigari3933]

@@kenjohnson6326 Read the article in Nation from 1977. He was a full-on Khmer Rouge apologist. He is a lunatic who claims the mass-murderer Stalin was less oppressive than the American office in this very video. A delusional anti-American ideologue.

[@laura1000]

These interviewers are idiotic. As someone else has already commented, what a squandered opportunity. There is definitely a new reason to admire Chomsky: his seemingly infinite patience.

[@Moncayowind]

Their questions can't totally "fence him in". He's way too smart for that. He answers - and adds - what he deems suitable. But having said that, this interview doesn't seem to have been prepared very well and if it had been, things could have gone better.

[@Moncayowind]

@Brother Jake's Konservative Evolution It's easy to throw the rock and hide the hand.

[@paulaustinmurphy]

Chomsky has "infinite patience" and he's also omniscient. He is also a secular saint and every word of his is treated as Gospel. On hail to Chomsky! Let's worship him.

[@Moncayowind]

@@paulaustinmurphy Somehow, I don't think Ms. Snyder's intention was to give Mr. Chomsky the treatment of a deity. That would be rather out of keeping with Chomsky's philosophy, I should think. When you admire someone, have you never used an effusive adjective like that and assumed that most people wouldn't take it literally, but simply an expression of great admiration for a particular quality you see in that person?

[@paulaustinmurphy]

@@Moncayowind "Somehow, I don't think Ms. Snyder's intention was to give Mr. Chomsky the treatment of a deity. That would be rather out of keeping with Chomsky's philosophy, I should think." That's my point. No Chomsky disciple or Leftist would admit to having deities and saints. However, when you look at history, all sorts of Leftists have fulfilled that role: Marx, Lenin, Castro, Trotsky, Che Guevara, Chairman Mao, and, today, Jeremy Corbyn and Slavoj Zizeck. Incidentally, Extinction Rebellion is LITERALLY fusing religion and Leftism. "When you admire someone, have you never used an effusive adjective like that and assumed that most people wouldn't take it literally, but simply an expression of great admiration for a particular quality you see in that person?" There's a difference between "admiring someone" and automatically assuming that everything they have to say, on any or every subjects, is profound and true.

[@tomcollins4350]

"what do you think about trans rights?" " let's talk about denying the holocaust instead." LOL

[@GoA7250]

@@RUNZLIG811 Define the holocaust in a sentence if you can then cite evidence of this definition. Not as easy as you might think.

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

You can really tell where a person's bias lies from what they refuse to criticize.

[@haydenchristensen8607]

Agree, Peterson is a quack.

[@murrijuana2842]

@@haydenchristensen8607 in what way?

[@haydenchristensen8607]

@@murrijuana2842 Dude literally didn't know Marxism rejects post modernism and had to be corrected during a live debate lmao

[@Matt-wv3if]

@@haydenchristensen8607 incorrect, he did an entire critique of the communist manifesto and repeatedly mentions that marxists reject post modernism, however, we are seeing an alliance between the two in left wing ideology in the west.

[@bluffboi]

@@Matt-wv3if entire critique? can you link that video please?

[@TheWhoMe123]

"Hey Curt, I figure if I ask him a question about Jordan Peterson, even if he doesn't say anything substantial in response (17:07), we can put Peterson's name in the title of the video"

[@whiteyobanion1104]

He said Peterson is so far right that he is nuts.

[@i4004]

@Ostin ask him how far from extreme far is. and what was hitler if you hear we have far and extreme right today....

[@richardvsassoon5144]

@@whiteyobanion1104 hmmm...Noam said read Nathan Robinson's article in 'Current affairs' about Peterson...which I did, and so can anyone. He's not a fan by any means and accuses him, Peterson of intellectual fraud, among other pet peeves. Peterson's expertise lies in Psychology, of which he is a professor at the University of Toronto and a clinical psychologist. Nathan Robinson - 31 years old , born in U K, immigrated with Parents at the age of 2 ( a dreamer ? ). Kind of a smarty pants, affected accent, Haarrrvard, don't you know? but Peterson taught there too. I think Noam said what he did to wipe the dust off his desk, and let someone else deal with that. A millennial progressive who chafes at Peterson's suggestion that a LOT of young people have definite ideas (largely based on emotions ) about how the world should be, but they might not be the best choice in realigning the world, just yet... a little real world experience can help in separating the wheat from the chaff.

[@goethicdesire]

Ostin you can mail Chomsky directly abt this . He responds mostly .

[@Superfantastictop10]

@@whiteyobanion1104 When? Can you provide a link to where Chomsky said that.

[@robertgalindo5979]

That smackdown of Aristotle was something else. 'no I dont think people get the government's they deserve they get the government that systems of power impose on them. That's quite different.'

[@janguvpes7518]

Certainly wasn't a smackdown of Aristotle. Joseph de Maistre, perhaps.

[@jackarmstrong5645]

@@janguvpes7518 People have combed through Aristotle and pulled out some of his ideas that had value. But if you actually look at his entire work it is filled with absolute nonsense.

[@jackarmstrong5645]

Ron Burgundy Nobody is fully formed at birth. And what a person becomes depends on circumstance and experience. Which is why the moron Trump boys are somehow the head of a major enterprise.

[@janguvpes7518]

@@jackarmstrong5645 Thanks for the summary. However, I'm familiar with Aristotle's works. The Nicomachean Ethics in particular continues to be heavily influential in both contemporary and normative metaethics; it is incredibly rich with insight, and neo-Aristotelian work on the virtues has practically transformed the field of ethics in the last half-century. I humbly suggest you do not know of what you speak. Incidentally, my initial comment was just to point out that this quote is a misattribution-something roundly missed by the commenters here.

[@jackarmstrong5645]

@@janguvpes7518 You didn't address my comment.

[@Abdul-Y]

lovely, what a gift that keeps on giving Dr. Noam is

[@wolfgangklotts]

Always inspiring listening to you. Greetings from Germany, Wolf

[@yellowburger]

"Clean up your room. It's more important than writing books." These fellas make Beavis and Butthead look like Umberto Eco.

[@curtjaimungal]

It was a joke.

[@yellowburger]

@@curtjaimungal Jesus, Curt. I know it was an attempt at humor. It was referencing Jordon Peterson. But that doesn't make it any less annoying.

[@KuftuKa]

@@curtjaimungal haha, what a knee-slapper

[@KuftuKa]

Apparently Chomsky is an adolescent nihilistic male that can't sort himself out lol.

[@taitbrown2591]

Beavis died 27 years ago

[@DoctorSparklesMusic]

Chomsky validates Peterson by demonstrating an unwillingness to define what constitutes "too far left".

[@jimjones9491]

They never want to admit that.

[@michaelnice93]

Ya I picked up on that too. Chomsky is not pluralist in his view, it’s just his view that is the only correct one. People espousing his view can never go too far. That’s why Biden declaring a ban of all combustion engines in the next 15 years seems perfectly reasonable to him. In fact it may seem too slow (despite the fact that the combustion engine is the single most valuable technology to human society. Who is really trying to destroy humanity. This interview was unbearable.

[@matthewminix5960]

No, Chomsky is exactly right. I have always found Peterson's "the right can police itself when it goes too far" claim (about Buckley singling out some racism as being too far to the right in the USA) is one of his worst arguments... and the current American political situations shows that it is no longer operative. Peterson's own "the right went too far" claim is actually better explained by Chomsky's way of speaking- in its original context, it was really about Buckley realizing that racism was going to be a losing issue in the long term.

[@TheDatabaseDude]

@@matthewminix5960 Chomsky still thinks that the economic philosophy of Marx, Lenin and Stalin was basically sound and that the 60 million people murdered trying to make that unworkable economic philosophy work "was not a case of going too far but rather just a case of bad tactics". Later he says that the evil of Amazon's warehouse working environment is beyond anything the evil despots of the past could dream up. He says they will fire you for taking too many bathroom breaks. He says "even Stalin wasn't that bad". No Stalin wouldn't fire you. He'd put you in front of a firing squad. Chomsky still thinks that extreme anarchist socialism can work after it had failed every time in history from the USSR, to Mao's China, to Romania, Cuba, Albania, Cambodia and on and on. He was a great linguist and anti-war advocate and his stance on Israel-Palestinian problem is courageous. But when it comes to political-economics he's out to lunch.

[@MiauZi69]

plus demonizing the right ... ridiculous

[@beastybird]

Curt had some of the most mundane and boring intro questions I've ever heard

[@murrijuana2842]

Ask your own questions when you get him on your podcast then

[@geoffreynhill2833]

Prof Chomsky is so right about the importance of social interaction at University - among both fellow students and your teachers. It will enrich your life.

[@SirThreepio]

Especially old profs with young library girls ? Both get enriched but differently, The prof gets his hard-drive cleaned and the girl gets her Marxist education updated and perhaps a fatherless child too.

[@mtn1793]

A relationship with intelligence!

[@TheWorldTeacher]

@@SirThreepio, are you referring to the professor in this video? 🤓

[@24tommyst]

Depends what department you're in. If you're in banking and marketing with all the sociopaths it will probably make you a worse person LOL.

[@91toinfinity]

"To be honest, I pay very little attention." - Noam Chomsky on Jordan Peterson, 2019

[@joeschmoe1193]

Maybe he should, he might learn something.

[@jackarmstrong5645]

@@joeschmoe1193 Like how to be successful and loved?

[@jeetsg1316]

@@91toinfinity bakwaas va yaar mai parh ke dekhiyaa 27 sal de bache nhe likhiaa left propaganda

[@maynardburger]

@@joeschmoe1193 He certainly might learn that the supposed 'intellectuals' on the right are lightweight reactionaries more than anything these days.

[@aspergianheteroclite3014]

Aside from a few anecdotes & lifestyle tips? Doubtful.

[@bornvillain6819]

Noam Chomsky's final form *The Wise Wizard* Someone get this man a robe and a staff. 🧙‍♂️

[@Mamothrept]

Please don't confuse an icon of wisdom, like Gandalf for example, with a famous intellectual like this. Wisdom and intellect are not correlated. This man is smart, but he can only see in one direction. His world view is very deep and well developed, but it's only based on a view of half the world.

[@calirad8240]

@@Mamothrept He has always tried (and succeeded) to see the whole world clearly, going to primary sources, for instance , and reading the business press. But no he doesn't agree with those who, for example, are flooring the accelerator to climate catastrophe just to "put a few more dollars in highly overstuffed pockets."

[@andrewyuen5]

"i mean there some issues on which i probably agree with hitler, doesn't mean much." almost made me spit take

[@murrijuana2842]

You sound uneducated on the subject. Perhaps just a product of propaganda

[@Pomme843]

Curt: "and make sure you clean up your room because I think that's the most important, I think that's more important than writing books" Noam: "m-hm" *waves

[@googleuser2609]

It was a really stupid comment by the interviewer -- even as a joke.

[@TheRealFatmouse]

Which middle school newspaper wrote these questions?

[@mikeberkey]

Seriously

[@IntellectualDarkWave]

It's like a teenager watched two Jordan Peterson videos and decided they were an expert in political science. The fact that these people have obtained funding for a documentary shows that there really is money out there for any moron who will push a right wing libertarian narrative while posing as a centrist.

[@SSVCloud]

The kind who thinks Jordan Peterson is an intelligent person.

[@tylerfoley7836]

Imagine getting 20 minutes with one of the 20th and 21st centuries most influential thinkers and then do this...

[@SSVCloud]

@@tylerfoley7836 "Tell us our lobster daddy is so smart."

[@lsobrien]

I would recommend that the questioners get a better grasp of what the Left is. Same probably goes for the Right. It injects a childish naivety into the discussion that's distracting.

[@ericb.4313]

I'm pretty sure they're Jordan Peterson fanboys, do you really think they're going to do research into what the left believes?

[@CGoldthorpe]

true

[@steven5054]

They did as much research into the left as Daddy Peterson has done.

[@zachflakerton]

Luke O'Brien “The left” is a term that seeks to organize people in struggles against concentrations of power which have been coopted by those concentrations of power in recent decades to pin a certain sector of the oppressed against another (the right). Now left and right no longer mean people and power (respectively) but mean different tribes among the people going after each other while the power runs away laughing.

[@ethanlorenzo702]

@@zachflakerton I'm an Individualist Anarchist who believes in Voluntarism while chomsky is intriguing to listen to I ultimately reject the legitimacy of any and all collectivist movements something he strongly supports

[@thewhat531]

You forgot to ask him about his take on Joe Rogan and Oprah

[@richardk6659]

Joy Behar and Whoopie, too.

[@glenn-younger]

"Ah, but did you clean your room?" 🙂What does it say about me if I say my room is clean, but my desk... Oy! Joking aside, thank you Curt for bringing Noam Chomsky to a whole new generation of viewers and allowing those who have respected him for years to revisit his thoughts.

[@ericb.4313]

These two questioners deserve the nicknames "broom" and "mop" because Chomsky wiped the floor with them.

[@draftsman3383]

Really? When?

[@AbtinX]

Lol

[@williamlawson7852]

Draftsman 0:00 - 36:56

[@draftsman3383]

@@williamlawson7852 The questions start at 0:20, so it can't be that...

[@Sid-69]

@@williamlawson7852 lmaooo

[@joshuasacco7779]

"yeah but did you clean your room?" That was dreadful.

[@billytheweasel]

embarrassed for the young guy

[@AFord1981]

I feel something like shame, I cringed so hard.

[@lukegibson9410]

Leftists don't need to clean their rooms, they want the government to do it for them in the name of equity.

[@theazzi]

@@lukegibson9410 no we just don't give a damn of something so shallow.. Curt anyway, you have the cache to talk half an hour to Noam and the last thing you want to tell him is to clean his room because it's more important then writing books?? and yep, I know it was a joke, but what's the point? you know the man won't get it, so it's just to make yourself look cool in front of your stupid peers.

[@paulgibby6932]

It was an attempt at a joke about Jordan Peterson. Chomsky doesn't seem to go for that kind of humor. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHO1ZqlubrFpnc0

[@ongogablogian3431]

Thank you, BLU. Love the format. Fantastic and pressing conversation.

[@ethanb2554]

"Do you disagree Jordan Peterson" Chompsky: "There are some issues on witch I would probably agree with Hitler"

[@nowthisisfuuun]

Well duh, both are anti-semites

[@username5502]

@@nowthisisfuuun, Noam Chomsky is Jewish.

[@nowthisisfuuun]

@@username5502 Only ethnically. So? I’m Russian and I’m not orthodox. I’m pretty sure there are a lot of Italians who are not Catholics.

[@username5502]

@@nowthisisfuuun, what makes you think he is anti-Semitic?

[@christinedidur364]

as always, Chomsky is respectful and kind. Absolute respect to him.

[@tonyscott1658]

No he isn't respectful. He treats Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris with disdain.

[@lillianbradley6964]

And wrong.

[@notadolphin9995]

@@tonyscott1658 As one should.

[@michaelrose4444]

@@tonyscott1658 Because Jordan and HArris are bigots!

[@tonyscott1658]

@@michaelrose4444 Hardly. Harris is concerned about Islamic terrorism and Jordan is pretty neutral. Bigots is what the political left (like you apparently) call them. It's the usual anathema that the regressive sends out when it loses its arguments.

[@robertbaker1893]

Chomsky on Jordan Peterson: "I've never paid any attention to him. If you want to know about Peterson, read what Nathan Robinson says about him." WFT? If Naom has never paid any attention to Peterson himself, then how can he know whether Nathan Robinson's opinion is valid?

[@gorkyd7912]

Fake intellectuals have to appeal to another authority because they can't make arguments themselves. This is how Chomsky became Chomsky, others referred to his authority that he gains from being referred to by others.

[@november8620]

@@gorkyd7912 This is a ridiculous point. Citation and reference does not mean you are not a 'fake intellectual'. Why would you need to restate a result that has already been succinctly written by someone else?

[@gorkyd7912]

@@november8620 Exactly. Citation and reference does not mean you are not a fake intellectual. My point is not at all ridiculous, you're just failing to understand: fake intellectuals have to appeal to authority does not mean anyone who cites any other authority must be a fake intellectual. If you want to determine if Chomsky is a fake intellectual or not there's still only 1 way to do that; examine his claims and logic. If they are made of bullshit he's a fake intellectual.

[@dustin3596]

that's the definition of a charlatan

[@dustin3596]

@@november8620 saying "i never heard of him so I will have some else form an opinion for me" is the definition of a fake intellectual

[@sppspharmdude]

Seeing him smile at a joke was cool

[@edyburkay]

He was being polite, he didn't get the joke, cuz as he said, he doesnt pay much attention to Jordan 🤣

[@fritsgerms3565]

I loved the young Chomsky. He had an amazing mind, particular his memory and ability to associate things. I’m not in a position to know how much have been sophistry or not. He was without equal in a debate. The more I’ve learned over the years suggests to me there is a blurry line between ‚the powerful‘ and the rest. Too often it is assumed things are intentional instead of Lady Luck.

[@murrijuana2842]

Was it lady luck that created the death camps in ww2?

[@fritsgerms3565]

@@murrijuana2842 clearly you misunderstood my comment. read it again. If its still unclear, then I'll dumb it down.

[@bradblades4245]

The fact that NO ONE on the left will answer the question, "when does the left go too far?" is so telling... and disturbing.

[@prophetsnake]

No, it's not. What is disturbing is that we already know how far the right will go. And he did answer the question.

[@kheldaryt]

​@@prophetsnake prophetsnake, where did he answer the question?...I had the same issue as OP..... got the question at 3:36 then talked about right going to far, didn't say anything about left. questioner asks again at 5:53 and he essentially says the only problem on the left is that the tactics sometimes go in the wrong direction..... (which actually is a good observation that the tactics of the left often are more divisive than the actual thing the left is after, i.e. think we can see some of those problems currently).... However, think the OP is correct in saying NC doesn't answer the question unless i missed it somewhere else and in a larger sense introspection is a problem on the left..... not that introspection isn't a problem on the right but it seems to be a bit more of a cognitive dissonance on the left

[@Isaac-eg3um]

Haha I know many leftists who do that. Where’s this narrative coming from?

[@LeSyd1984]

Because Stalin was our (I dare not say "their") ally! I believe it's called an agenda. Right-wingers dislike being associated with Hitler, but left-wingers dislike being associated with Stalin just as much.

[@bradblades4245]

@@prophetsnake How wide and deep does a mass grave have to be before you can answer that simple question?

[@antap]

Mr Chomsky is so lucid at age 90

[@jf9979]

Wow. I thought he was around 80 or so. Hes incredible

[@chopin65]

@Pheenix Dave I agree. He has his biases like anyone else. I am sure he is not as rigorous in the application of his standards in self reflection, but then again, who is?

[@julian65886]

He sees no limits as to what the left can do. Very Stalin like!

[@robertbrowne7880]

Equality isn't objective. Neither is Justice.

[@philmessina476]

@Pheenix Dave, objectivity is an illusion. Transparency is the antidote to the illusion of objectivity.

[@MS-jz9ne]

So a question about Jordan Peterson evoques Hitler to Chomsky lol

[@djlunaticdreyfuss7562]

This man is so spot on in my humble opinon... never sides... always rational and independently thinking. References the changes I have seen in my lifetime.

[@EliteKozarcan]

holy crap! first time I've seen him with a philosophical beard, looks good

[@coreycox2345]

He always seemed like a philosopher, now he looks like one too, Trusted EXODUS.

[@EliteKozarcan]

@@coreycox2345 agreed

[@ajmosutra7667]

Daddy like freud

[@misterdemocracy3335]

Yeah I’m kinda liking this new based Chomsky look he’s got going

[@michaelpomerantz7949]

One of the most EVIL leftists out there. !

[@talastra]

The person who said, "People get the government they deserve" was a French-speaking reactionary who lived from 1753 to 1821, Joseph de Maistre. Isaiah Berlin writes about him in "Russian Intellectuals".

[@qpalzm563]

I was horrified by the ignorance of the interviewers and me, in my admitted ignorance, thought "At least that Aristotle quote was interesting". Turns out not even that. Thanks.

[@carsonwieker]

Thanks for this interview.

[@valaquenta220]

Nice click bait, he barely talks about jordan peterson and people came for that, you know it.

[@thewhat531]

I came for Chomsky. I don't care about JP

[@professorpancakes6545]

You really think someone Chomsky's level would give a crap about Peterson?

[@notWaldont]

"Hitler and Stalin had nothing against speech that they liked"

[@jacqui9263]

@Wise and Free no.

[@webstertippingpoint572]

In his advanced years, Noam still cares so much about global warming, the common fate of humanity which will not affect him in any conceivable way. What a caring mind.

[@billytheweasel]

Noam has always cared about the greater good...

[@kilbridemeredith8742]

He might be. 2020 even. Even if not, I imagine the next three years.

[@lukegibson9410]

"Caring" is easy. Virtue signaling about climate change is easy. What is difficult is finding a solution without affecting the standard of living of millions, if not billions of people. Chomsky always does what is easier from his privileged position at MIT. What a role model and great thinker.

[@seanoleary2348]

Yeah... what a non-sociopath he is caring about the end of human life like that even though he's gonna die, right?

[@lukegibson9410]

@@seanoleary2348 Virtue signaling about climate change has no age. Anyone can do it to claim moral superiority.

[@cheezew1zz]

Thankful for this because it introduced me to Nathan Robinson

[@alc6269]

Chomsky patiently educates two strange fashy nerds

[@jackarmstrong5645]

Did he actually educate them? Education means learning something not just hearing about things and not having the background and prior education to process it.

[@revolutionaryfoxinist2377]

@@jackarmstrong5645 If they have a memory then they would have learned a lot about left libertarianism

[@GiantArtProductions]

>fashy Wow you're lost

[@andrewjenkinson8948]

No, tried to. Most likely failed. Though that's not Chomsky's fault.

[@dillonv5345]

gio penn bro open your eyes these dudes are clearly reactionary at best

[@marx102]

Remember when Peterson showed up to a debate about Marx and he had only read a 30 page pamphlet. God, that was hilarious.

[@steven5054]

Totally owned the Postmodern Neo-Marxists.

[@BlakeBjornstad1]

Probably the only pages he wrote that are still relevant

[@michealcherrington6531]

please tell which it was?

[@MassDefibrillator]

Didn't even look like he'd read all of it.

[@MassDefibrillator]

@J A I mean, if you haven't read marx, then are you actually a marxist?

[@davedouglass438]

Congratulations for posting high-quality transcripts in English and Spanish! Hint: Portuguese is another high-priority language. (There's excellent research going on in Brazil, much of it by grad-students who don't understand English. Even a poor-quality scrollable Portuguese rough-translation helps!)

[@roumi123]

so much wisdom shared by Chomsky, subtitles would probably help me understand better since english is not my native language. thanx for uploading !

[@SirThreepio]

Did NC really improve your life or just reinforced some of your beliefs ?

[@doublenegation7870]

Many of the comments on this video are utterly confused about what is left and right, and the prevalent stance of university faculty and students. First of all he's talking about universities as institutions, which are themselves right wing in operation. They are massively funded by private donors and corporations. Research programs are tailored to fit corporate markets and the demands of big tech/big data of virtual monopolies in the private sector. University departments that are either accessory to or in contradiction with the imperatives of private finance and the logic of capital have been steadily defunded, cut, and divested of seats within the councils of academic governing bodies. The pc identity culture among students is not the left. This is what happens to Liberalism as a philosophy when economic class and the deep history of epochal changes are theoretically marginalized in favour of the contingencies of personal individuality, affect, and identity as modes of analysis. Chomsky has been around a long time and knows what the meaning of terms are, not what they've been manipulated to mean by the capitalist media machine. The left is pro-worker, anti-war, anti-racist, and environmentalist. It's a political stance against the elites of private industry who run the news, the wars, own enormous swaths of property and natural resources, the factories, the banks, and fund both political parties pretending to battle for office. It observes history and social transformation as a broad historical process intertwined with the growth of the economy and the technological forces of production. The center has been pushing right ever since the 70's, and most major parties in power throughout the world are either reactionary nationalist or neoliberal corporate parties. Neither of these options are left wing, as both are prey if not puppet to the interests of the transnational billionaire class. Rub the sleep from your eyes, Chomsky has not only carefully observed the intergenerational transformation of the political landscape, but has documented it all in detail along the way. He has traced how the goal posts have continued to shift away from social democratic policy to the privatization of all utilities and the financialization of every aspect of daily life. He has analyzed both the market and the political mechanisms responsible for this shift, as well as the rules by which the media steeps us in the ideology of the ruling class. He is one of the final fading beacons of intellectual rigor, research, and truth in the public arena, and there isn't a single 'intellectual' alive today worth half the debt we owe to the work of this man's entire life.

[@doublenegation7870]

@Michael Bravo tldr; a false equivalence based on a total lack of philosophical understanding and ignorance of the political and economic history of the past 500 years requires no rebuttal. All I can suggest is that you stop listening to podcasts and read a book.

[@infiniteinfiniteinfi]

@Michael Bravo If I understand you then you mean that the left that Chomsky belongs to claim to "have the right to overthrow the government and replace it with a more 'humane', 'egalitarian' government". But this is "just double speak for hate and division." Finally the left claim "that anarchism is" their "end goal". But this is so obviously false that they treat the people "as if we are just a bunch of idiots." Some replies and counter questions: "have the right to overthrow the government and replace it with a more 'humane', 'egalitarian' government": as far as i know, Chomsky has never advocated violence to overthrow the government (but certainly talked about civil disobedience against e.g. war). And I suppose that making any oppressive organisation more humane and egalitarian is a legitimate goal. Do you disagree with this analysis? "just double speak for hate and division.": Well, this to me is a question of fact. If it is a new way to control the people then it is obviously wrong. And that is obviously the way that the corporate democrats have used it (e.g. the Madeleine Albright Quote: "There is a special place in hell for women who don't support other women". During the 2016 political propaganda season). But as far as I know Chomsky has never done anything like that, or do you have a counter example? "that anarchism is" their "end goal": To me Chomsky's position has been as clear as possible. If the left is weak and unorganised then demonstrating and striking for a higher minimum wage makes sense. If the left is strong, class conscious and organised then there is just no need for the state, we can just run our lives and our society as we see fit together as free human beings. I presume you don't find this convincing, so were would you place your disagreement/s? Some further questions: What are you thoughts about the green new deal? Do you agree with the possibility that it could create the same amount of growth as the WW2 spending or similar Keynesian spending since? Do you agree with the positive environmental effects such a policy could have? What do you think about cooperatives and other ways to organise the economy democratically? Would you agree that cooperatives would end/reduce the need for the state? What is your thinking regarding the abolishment of the state? Do you agree that it would be possible and desirable?

[@hotcakesism]

fuckin well said, I don't care for this comment chain though

[@manlikeJoe1010]

double negation ‘suggest you stop listening to podcasts and read a book’. Hahaha from your initial comment I would suggest you do the same. Your contradictory statements and illogical arguments should be enough of a sign for you to hop off your intellectual high horse, walk away from KZbin comments sections and commit yourself to some actual learning

[@garym6338]

Hans Hanzo You do realise that most of what you spouted there was a load of bullshit? You just attributed everything good to people on the left and everything bad to people on the right side of politics. It is that kind of primitive and simplistic thinking that has lead America to be as absurdly politically polarised as it is (especially among college students and social media hounds). Most countries....and most regular people, don't define the value and worth of others on their political affiliations (and nor should they). Also, people can't easily be grouped into one category anyway. Most people have a spectrum of personal views...some that lean left, some that might be extreme left, other views that might be more centrist, libertarian, right leaning or extreme right or anarchist, etc. Its funny how particularly on the internet if someone expresses a single view that might be right or left leaning for example, then others immediately pidgeon hole them into being on that side of politics so assume most/all their other views must be aligned with what is typically seen as right wing or left wing. Its fucking ridiculous but is a sad sign of the group mentality many have now and the complete devaluation of the individual.

[@mariaelenajarrin246]

Showing love and treating all people of the world with respect and learning what is best for our earth will lead to peace and harmony. This is our earth. We show godlike qualities when we listen to our inner conscience. As Jimi Hendrix said: “When the power of love overcomes the love of power, we will have peace.”

[@briandelion49]

@Billy Bill "Trust a woman to think so idyllically"? How about trust a misogynist guy with two first names to know with certainty the only event that will unite humanity!

[@SirThreepio]

So sweeeet!

[@brendond.3158]

"I thought it was beautiful.

[@murrijuana2842]

What a load of unrealistic nonsense 🙄

[@stevenicoletti3498]

I can listen to Chomsky all day long.

[@Johnconno]

Awake? That's impressive, you're a sort of intellectual porn-star. Well done!

[@GarrettGDCMMA]

"make sure you clean your room" at the end COMPLETELY ruined the whole interview. You'd already referenced it once 2 minutes prior and the Professor CLEARLY didn't understand. Not to mention he had already stated that he didn't pay attention to Jordan Peterson. Silly.

[@felixecho]

It is the Peterson idolizers MO. Idiot psuedo intellectuals playing that their stupid hero actually said anything worth listening to, ever. Here is a clue, you got to interview a genius, your pithy attempts at humor based on your irrelevant halfwit hero fell flat on a genius that doesn't have the time to waste even knowing of your moron hero.

[@arminius6506]

@@felixecho man you're just full of toxicity. Chomsky is heavy weight political thinker, one of the best of post ww2 era and I've been listening/reading him for last 5-6 years. Jordan Peterson is totally different, he's like a motivational speaker and talks about life (not politics) and I've read and listened him a lot and it actually changed my life for good. And he's in media for last 10 years (or less) but he ain't a political scholar. But what he say about life is pragmatic and it works if someone follow it. Lastly Chomsky ain't a third class politician like your Hillary Clinton or Trump so better doesn't mix him with your ugly and disgusting local North American politics where you pseudo intellectual politicians has actually politicised each and every aspect of life and now American and Canadian politics is nothing more than an uncleanable mess.

[@orion9k]

Totally agree... It was lack of social skills

[@konstantinov]

@@arminius6506 Jerome Thorp is exactly right, in terms of nailing what was wrong about this particular interview.

[@danavram8437]

@@felixecho what a leftist sycophant you are; a drone with no critical thinking skills

[@gonzonieto3321]

I bet the only research they did for this interview was to watch KZbin videos. Anyone think they actually bothered to crack open a book and read Chomsky's work?

[@lemonsarebitter2069]

The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

[@astrospect]

@Valar Dohaeris 137 what book would yall reccomend. Apparently Noam wrote hundreds lol I ain't got that kid of time, but I've been watching old political debates and his debate with Buckley Jr. Got me roaming on Noam lol

[@RatatRatR]

@@astrospect Good Chomsky books to start with are the ones that are based on interviews, especially with David Barsamian. That could be: How the World Works, Global Discontents, Imperial Ambitions, Keeping the Rabble in Line. Probably a half dozen others.

[@gprang]

His good work is in linguistics. His opinions otherwise are better than LeBron James but pedantic and not well thought out.

[@edbutzwiggle4227]

Great questions guys for 20th century comrade Noam. You guys rock!!!

[@Tru-dp9yt]

Very good questions!

[@TheAdvancedMusic]

"The Democratic Party - whatever that is..." N. Chomsky

[@Redactedlllllllllllll]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@panameadeplm]

it's funny to see these commie lovers look at their own creations in disbelief, it's almost like some guy called yuri bezmenov predicted all of this to the letter in a 5 minute interview

[@keeptruuchaese774]

@@panameadeplm YURIS THESHHIZNIT

[@samgibb-randall5743]

Because fundementally, the mainstream democratic party has little in terms of ideology or message that is substantive.

[@karlwilhelm5680]

Despite the terrible interviewers, Chomsky was as lucid as ever; they were trying so hard to make him give some hot take on Jordan Peterson, what a waste of an opportunity.

[@pluckyduck11y]

Stop acting triggered and indignant simply because these hosts also happen to appreciate more than 1 intellectual. I may hold Chomsky in high regard, and I probably quote him more than any other scholar. But intelligence is not a pyramid and Chomsky is not the ultimate capstone. Look at the fact that this interview has over 1 quarter million views and is very well received. Nearly 90% approve. I'd call that a good interview. In my estimation, most of the haters in these comments were simply triggered by the mere mention of Jordan Peterson. I find some of Peterson's pontificating and prescriptions silly at worst. But he does have extensive knowledge in certain areas and both Peterson and Chomsky offer critiques of postmodernism. So why make a pissing contest out of this? I swear these Chomsky-ite acolytes are some of the worst, most arrogant and incurious zombies on the internet. And I love Chomsky.

[@RandolfRichardson]

@@pluckyduck11y ​You think people are triggered and you count yourself as a scholar? Are you projecting something? I think the hosts wasted Professor Chomsky's time and did miss a number of great opportunities to venture into deeply fascinating philosophical conversations with him. Concluding by telling Chomsky to "clean his room" was ridiculous (who do they think they are?) -- they need to grow up instead of hurling childish insults at their guests.

[@pluckyduck11y]

@@RandolfRichardson 1) No. I did not count myself as a scholar. You misread that. Scholar referred to Chomsky. 2) The "clean your room" was not an insult. They were making light of one of Peterson's rules. It was not said in seriousness. 3) Finally, if you thought this was a bad interview, you are truly sheltered. There are countless examples of more hostile and critical interviews, including those hosted by mainstream media with Chomsky as a guest. Why do you think he obliged them? He's been through far worse. If you want to see a hostile interview conducted in poor faith, watch the Channel 4 interview with Cathy Newman and Jordan Peterson.

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

@@pluckyduck11y no offense, but Joe Rogan was running circles around Jordan Peterson and that guy has been punched in the head a lot.

[@metalcraftwroughtiron4886]

pluckyduck11y J b Peterson does have a lot of knowledge about his area of expertise in physiology. And I think he does a hell of a lot of good there. A father figure for a fatherless generation. He should follow some of his own advice and not speak with such a knowing conviction on things like climate change and population. Millions have watched his videos and like me led to other people such as Chomsky to hear a counter argument. There is much I agree with Chomsky as well but why does he ( and his followers) dismiss JBP as if he is not worthy of even listening to. Don’t listen to one side of an argument and make your mind up then stick your fingers in your ears when you have a chance to hear a counterpoint.

[@YuChiGongG]

Good Old Chomsky. He just keeps going strong. He is still looking OK, by the way, in April 2023. We need someone outspoken as Chomsky whether or not one agrees entirely with what he says.

[@5driedgrams]

36:05 wow dude, that was very cringe

[@blaithink6093]

i would have cried if i was that guy.

[@5driedgrams]

@@blaithink6093 tbh, I did cried a bit.

[@mynamewhatis7254]

It somehow struck me as very disrespectful. Lack of reverence for Noam, least of all as a respected person in his field (I hardly know anything about Noam Chomsky), but above all as an elder member of society.

[@PCP1992]

Bro why did you have to point this out. I feel sick

[@vanillaglue]

@@mynamewhatis7254 100%, disgusting and arrogant! so disrespectful...

[@Gigika313]

Great stuff 👍🏻

[@SirLangsalot]

Chomsky is a total soldier for truth.

[@samerdrich5579]

Soldier for virtue signaling you mean.

[@primitiveorganism9571]

Lmfao... is that a joke? Truth? Lmfao... yeah he real truthful...

[@dragonsmash4337]

@saetyr Silences 9/11 truthers LMFAO nice bait

[@Mamothrept]

@pattherealist The statements you just made are as un-factual as saying Noam prays to teddy bear and had a gay lover in his 40s, they just happen to be more believable. Your source of information about Peterson is either lying to you, or passing on rumours that you're all too happy to accept at face value.

[@claudioortiz5830]

Soldier of socialism, the system that has Venezuela starving right now: kzbin.info/www/bejne/baGWnKmsj8uXpqc

[@mieliav]

I don't always agree w/ chomsky, but I do about going to college/university. I didn't get a chance to go until I was in my 50s, and the benefits were unexpectedly huge.

[@JamesPeach]

So it was worth going to college? Didn't you end up with debt?

[@mieliav]

@@JamesPeachwhile obtaining a BA didn't change my worklife, it was very enriching to an autodidact like me; gave structure to all I'd learned before. discipline of thought was new to me and very exciting. I didn't get into debt, financed myself w/ savings and some scholarships.

[@Jimmy4video]

@@JamesPeach balancing learning with crippling debt is hard, I don't know where the line is. Probably best to go to the most affordable option in which a serious attention to learning can be found. Most learning will be done by you anyway whether you're at a top tier or mid tier university. The most valuable learning at university isn't the information it's how to think and that has repercussions through out your life whether your degree gets you a job or not. Consider studying abroad too, it might be cheaper and provide additional experiences to learn from.

[@yeye6980]

BA's are a dime a dozen in Canada. Most young people go to trade schools now. At least the truly smart ones anyway.

[@joeschmoe1193]

@John Brownbill You mean like getting laid and binge drinking?

[@heygringo7]

Chomsky is undoubtably brilliant and his voice helps me fall asleep

[@octane2344]

Wow. How you got an interview with Noam Chomsky I do not know!

[@zazzyzulu]

He has spent so much time educating people far beneath his intellect, yet always retains utter humility and patience

[@kcailly1]

He’s just stating the obvious.

[@macplumber]

Pretty much. 😉

[@anubistv1154]

He’s stating the obvious because he’s being asked basic questions. What a waste of an interview with one of the greatest thinkers of our time

[@thomasbroleen4241]

You're obviously taking the piss, right???

[@tylertone2776]

Why do you guys have to make it so difficult by sounding EXACTLY like Jordan Peterson fans commenting about 'Peterson's superiority'

[@Milligan777]

This host is a joke. Asking about the Faurisson affair in the most inane way possible, trying to change the topic when he didn't get the answer he wanted. To compare Chomsky to Peterson is laughable at best. Chomsky, fortunately is sharp as ever. "There are some issues in which I probably agree with Hitler, but that doesn't mean much." One of my new favorite Chomsky quotes.

[@autumnfoerderer5820]

Permafrost ❤️

[@mykotron]

@@autumnfoerderer5820 They are going to have to SERIOUSLY edit this video out of context if they want to use any of it in a movie to make Jordan Peterson look good.

[@robertmadison4611]

Okay. The usual story: absolutely no point made against Peterson, just the usual pile-on. The reference to Hitler? Pathetic. Can anyone, anyone, who looks down on JP, name just ONE point on which they disagree? Do you have the ability to even make ONE POINT? Or, is it just that he is not one of the cool kids and cannot sit at your table.

[@ddawg6482]

Yeah, kook Chomsky vs grifter Peterson, it's really a hard choice.

[@zostaw9421]

ROBERT MADISON the article Chomsky mentioned answers your question [.] Edit: www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve Oh actually you might have been trolling. Got me :D

[@smokeythegoldfish]

When does the right go too far? Noam: their existence itself is too far When does the left go too far? Noam: they can’t.

[@TsunamiNR]

I don’t know what other answer to expect from anyone who identifies as radical/far left...

[@smokeythegoldfish]

@@TsunamiNR haha fair, I suppose by definition that’s what you should expect. I guess my brain registers balance as the proper position, so it’s surprised when intelligent people who have done a fair amount of thinking have so little regard for the utility of balance

[@MindRiderFPV]

Great point on JP. Immense Noam. Love you man. Still funny at this age. Amazing.

[@haveaseatplease]

Chomsky deserves more than this half-wit unprofessional interview attempt. Put some effort in the preparation of the interview next time, please!

[@nonebusiness4488]

yes the interviewers were very naive about politics and all this left right questions it was a little shocking, but noam is every bit as self reflective in his answers and respectful to the arizona state student talk show interviewer as he is to the MIT professor colleague. he is such a breathtaking human being from every angle, takes each question, no matter what and answers right next to who he is and what he understands. his heart is so wide to humanity so attenuated to human suffering. he is so the ideal of the persons described in the bible (im an atheist) who really lives and breathes having a broad overarching love for humanity. my heart opens to the world when he speaks, my eyes see, darkness is lifted. he has done this for me as long as i can remember. when he is gone, and he will die as we all will, i can't imagine my pain. everyday i hear his voice logical, loving and caring, respectful and kind, intellectually rigorous, i have received a gift from him. i am so grateful to noam who has given me the most unique gifts in my life.

[@DH-og5yr]

Just checked your channel and there was nothing half as intelligent than this half wit interview

[@mrbushman2267]

@@kilianbauer3942 Or as you could call them, ass lickers.

[@PristineTangerine]

@lasali 3 yeah laugh it off. You could give a shit about what happened on 911 and what it has been used to justify doing to this country. And that is the excuse to sell America into slavery. You phuks can ridicule all you want. All you're doing is showing your sociopathy and your hand . Please do...Carry on.🤗

[@PristineTangerine]

@Klaa2 Blow me. If you can't see the truth for yourself go back to your BS colonized caste system acceptance of those that took down 911 and defied you to see the obvious.

[@mentalitydesignvideo]

A man of undeniably noble convictions, extraordinary intellect and INFINITE PATIENCE.

[@gilianrampart8514]

Who supportez Hugo the Idiot thet killed many people.

[@patrickdowney2523]

@@gilianrampart8514 stfu

[@demoncard1180]

​@J. Milton Jeffreys The American people made him famous and wealthy, not the American government.

[@davsan3570]

@J. Milton Jeffreys these are points worth considering, its always important to attempt to pick apart any intellectual to see if they stand up to scrutiny and Chomsky would agree, eg "whenever you hear someone say something very confidently, your first instinct should be to ask, 'wait, is that's true?'". However this man has worked exceptionally hard, is recognized by dozens of universities, has a team of people to do research for him and stands behind everything he says easily, well into his 90s. He didn't start his career with expectations of money or fame as he already had a comfortable life and successful career at MIT. He claims he became active in the political movement expecting to lose everything for the greater good (eg Nixon enemy list, his wife going back into the working world etc). As far as vilifying his culture/nation, why wouldn't he? If he believes with significant data that it's justified, what is he supposed to do, ignore it? Say "ah well, I'm doing fine so its not all bad" or leave? He felt he could contribute, sees this as his duty and if enough people did this then he could stop. He's definitely not one of the people we should be attacking first.

[@iamrogen]

@J. Milton Jeffreys I'm sorry that you're this stupid. You're so far from intelligence and integrity that you can't even recognize it in others. I really am sorry for you.

[@christakislouca1568]

Χαιρετισμούς από τον Σταύρο και τον παππού Χρίστο σε όλους. .Σας ευχαριστώ .. Καλή νέα Χρονιά 🍏🍎💗

[@jackielone1035]

The article Chomsky mentions ‘The Intellectual We Deserve’ by Nathan J.Robinson is an eye opener. It is available on Current Affairs website. Highly recommend.

[@liamgalt6643]

I thought the opening paragraph was unbearably conceited. I find it eye opening that Noam recommend Nathans article without purporting any significant prior knowledge of Peterson's ideas. I think it's a dishonest way of dispatching an intellectual. Someone who I really think did a better job of engaging with him was Žižek. These are just my personal opinions though, but I'm interested, what did you think of the article as a whole?

[@blaynestaleypro]

The article is a crappy hit piece. You would know that if you actually bothered to watch a single Peterson lecture in it's entirety which the writer obviously didn't.

[@jackielone1035]

@@blaynestaleypro Peterson taps into a lot that resonates but so does Kim Kardashian. He avoids the hard questions and doesn’t practice what he preaches, he is totally blind or wilfully blind to the shadow and his justification of neoliberalism. He turns a blind eye to any alternative and dictates you to suck it up that’s life while people applaud. People applauded to many of these during the course of history whose names are lost in time.

[@blaynestaleypro]

@@jackielone1035 lol. Sure. Noting you wrote about Peterson is true but ok then. Peterson champions gratitude and personal responsibility. I think the tens of thousands of people, if not more, who Peterson has helped speaks for itself.

[@jackielone1035]

@@blaynestaleypro In a consumeristic, racist, war driven, authoritarian, soulless, fed by chaos of a society which fascist neoliberals like milton friedman have created at global scale, even Kim Kardashian can provide comfort and help to the millions of lost souls. And of course Peterson would not criticise the dominating mentality in the last 50 years because he’s thriving in it, just like Kim K.

[@ennotianen1191]

kermit voice: "I've done a lot of thinking about this lately."

[@whiteyobanion1104]

LMFAO. He should do more thinking about his political beliefs.

[@amanbytheway]

If he is a teacher/professor I hope he knows he can use "You shall not pass" unironically...

[@Jason918114]

@Tom Underwood, I think he meant literally, at least that's how I read it.

[@tobyfunk6858]

I believe it's actually you cannot pass and Peter Jackson fucked it up. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, been a few years since I read the books.

[@fleathedog]

"For about a couple of decades, I've had a very simple question that I've been posing to my postmodern friends. Can you find something in postmodernism which is not either a triviality cloaked in polysyllables, or is false? And nobody's answered it yet" So he agrees with Jordan Peterson on that at least

[@michaelwright8896]

They also both agree that 1+1=2 I hear.

[@sgbh8874]

It Makes a lot of money as a libertarian pessimistic style of writing. Pomo talks & talks but says nothing.

[@nacho9865]

When you go home tonight you wouldn’t have left your home at all even if your house is halfway across the world. That’s because your always at home. Tell me……when you open your house door and upon entering, does it give you oxygen? When you open your food cabinet does it spread with vegetation and life for consumption? I love this place and one day I want to look back it from another planet and wonder if life is doing it’s massive cycle down there again❤️

[@DG-bi2yj]

“Ahh but did you clean your room” comment was distasteful and foul, you’re lucky he was polite enough to humor your attempt at humor

[@not2tees]

I cringed as this question was asked, but youth has to have its say, unfortunately. Dialogue between generations is far too easy to throw away for plenty of such reasons.

[@firewithfire848]

@not2tees...English isn’t your first language is it?

[@billytheweasel]

:cringe: He will regret that outro as he grows older.

[@MassDefibrillator]

@@billytheweasel If he didn't already...

[@iluvatar003]

Well, he was laughing at the joke.

[@randyt3558]

I find it amazing how Chomsky continues to be Chomsky while being interviewed by idiots...I am amazed by his patience.

[@plamenargirov242]

And I am amazed by how you manage to call these people idiots, obviously you are way better than these in the video. I believe I've read your book as well.

[@squarerootof2]

Chomsky, as out of touch and full of his own biases as usual.

[@KirinDave]

@@squarerootof2 I see you've got a new account to keep leveling the same boring, goofy complaints.

[@theconfusedarmchairphiloso850]

@@squarerootof2 i believe everyone has biases when it comes to politics, including you. If you do manage to have a political identity totally unbiased and seperated from your own personal beliefs, then congrats

[@squarerootof2]

@@theconfusedarmchairphiloso850 Yes, of course I do. As you rightly said, everyone has. The trick is to be aware of it.

[@hernan_972]

One quick question, what do you think about the last 50 years of philosophical discussions?

[@samum5856]

Or, as Sasha Baron Cohen calls him, Mr. Norman Chompsky

[@murrijuana2842]

That dude's a pos hypocrite

[@dorianphilotheates3769]

The nonagenarian Noam Chomsky in usual form: incisive, informed, brilliantly lucid, refreshingly...sane.

[@Jordan-gd5hq]

Please don’t waste his time like that ever again.

[@nthedeepblue3521]

Exactly

[@fuckfannyfiddlefart]

Some of the comments and questions were a waste of time and frankly childish. It works have been now useful to precise the attitudes of Peterson rather than him as a whole, for example a Austin would be: 1.do you think person lied about bill C16 to create a transpanic that was part of right wing policy to divide the working class and get votes for Republicans? 2. What do you make of Petersons book (in sure he hasn't read it, but that is telling in itself as the bill is just junk and scientist don't care) 3. Do you think it is reasonable to avoid using people's, preferred pronouns of the are trans?! Like this it may have been more useful.

[@RaminHonary]

Exactly. After "when does the right go to far, when does the left go to far?" I was thinking, "wow, what an incredibly ignorant and poorly informed question." These kids have totally bought into the mainstream media narrative that "both sides have extremists" and "both sides can be bad." Chomsky basically ignored the question and used it as an opportunity to talk about how extreme the right is and how the left has failed to counter them in any meaningful way, talking about "tactics" instead of dignifying the question with a proper response, which was a great response. Then the next question: "Republicans are pro-corporation, Democrats are pro-government, but as you say the line between corporations and government is blurry, does that mean there line between Democrat and Republican is blurry?" I had to stop watching there, that was about the stupidest question I've ever heard. These kids are the victims of mainstream media propaganda, they have absolutely NO understanding of class struggle or class consciousness. They can only view the world through the lens of "right versus left," never through the lens of "rich versus poor," just like they've been taught to do by the mainstream political orthodoxy.

[@ALEXONLIFE]

@@RaminHonary You can only view the world through the brain of a Joo. Any other view is persecuted with severity. I hope this is what you mean and understand as the "mainstream political orthodoxy"

[@lukegibson9410]

@@RaminHonary So the left has no extremists? OK. Good to know. So much for objective critical thinking.

[@regaliaretailfashionmerch4314]

I for one am so glad that Chomsky and Peterson have on record addressed each other or something about each other. It has brought out Peterson's culturally libertarian side while still being on the economic right , while Chomsky made a good defence of the REAL left traditions that have nothing to do with Authoritarian socialism or Post Modernism. Those who can't see the value this has in clearing up the picture for us, politically, philosophically are sadly mistaken

[@jamememes4114]

I first saw the "Better Left Unsaid" interview with Jonathan Pageau, and now I see this. I'm excited about this project.

[@danib1600]

These were some of the most basic assinine questions, my god. Please don't waste his time like this again.

[@jakeberriman3749]

If given the opportunity what would you ask him?

[@maxpower6918]

@@jakeberriman3749 I would ask him why has he spent an entire life talking the talk but has never ever stood up and fought for what he says he believes in, he expects others to do his fighting and dying for him.As do all academics. It is the working man who pays for his fancies with his life.

[@pheo4156]

@@maxpower6918 you know he was arrested multiple times right

[@mightymaniac8712]

Pheo Love it when people assume stuff like that about him. I think it’s because people know him as an intellectual and according to them he therefore can’t have been an activist

[@maxpower6918]

@@pheo4156 So? did he get beaten up tortured and ...oh yeah ...he got released immediately.

[@lonelycubicle]

Re: Ali G interview and Foucault debate “Foucault’s quite different.” Lol, never assumes any background knowledge of the interviewer or audience. Thanks for uploading.

[@vudusid8717]

I was waiting for someone to say, 'Booyakasha!'

[@glennmiller9491]

Noam Chomsky deserves respect even if you think he’s not of your viewpoint. I see him as a wise man with flaws and would advise people not to believe what he says but consider whether he gives you an answer to understand and add to your own. I agree and disagree with his answers but reminded that the future is for people younger than him.

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Great point.

[@danicastanedax]

This reminds of LOTR, when they go to talk to the ents lol

[@ramon2008]

Lol true

[@LPBensch]

hahahah

[@Iohannis42]

ROFL!

[@jewlovergibson2944]

Chomsky doesn't say anything unless it's worth taking a long time to say

[@bobbabai]

You didn't listen to the Ents, either?