Choosing a class for Fresh: 2024 on an accelerated timeline | Divine Intervention Podcast #2

[@SomethingScotty]

Let's not forget these servers will be rolling over to TBC servers after a year, so classes that are meme classes in vanilla will be god-tier in TBC, like Paladin and Shaman.

[@Lumbermill-wow]

good point

[@s.o.l.o.1.003]

Love the conversations, lots I didn’t think about 🤓❤️ -Meijer 🤓

[@nillytv]

For those of you who were asking , a Classic Fresh raiding guild, are recruiting all roles: discord.gg/StbMUHm4 Been playing with these guys for years

[@stofan]

Thanks a lot for the upload❤

[@Apav1x]

You're most likely right about the Warrior population predictions this time around, especially with the addition of dual spec and the removal of the debuff limit. This time around I decided to play a Warlock and Rogue and start with the Rogue first since I've never done that before at the launch of a fresh server. But now I'm seriously reconsidering starting with my Warlock first and gearing my Rogue once the current content gets old and competition isn't as fierce. Please let me know if you ever open up recruitment! I really enjoyed listening to you guys and it seems like we have very similar expectations for the pace we want to go at. I also want to clear, but in a laid back environment that's not too sweaty or casual. Also a primarily Alliance player that can't wait to go Horde this time haha.

[@heftynomad]

Going Orc Rogue myself this time! I was Alliance Hunter all the way until Wrath last time haha

[@Apav1x]

@heftynomad Fellow Orc Rogues unite! Going male or female? As an addendum to what I said above, the nice thing about Rogue is that if you care about PvP (which most Rogues do I reckon), you really don't need good gear to do well. I won't be reluctant to rank if I haven't been so lucky with gearing by the time the honor system is added.

[@heftynomad]

@@Apav1x Definitely going female! The male orc is a little thick for a rogue imo xD

[@Apav1x]

@@heftynomad Male stealth is so hilarious! He's got shoulders for days though. But yeah I think Orc female is only behind Human female when it comes to how armor looks on your character. Human female rogues make swords look like you have Titan's Grip haha.

[@TonyJ1776]

The leggings recipe was an AQ drop IIRC. (Warrior pants). On to Holy Paladin, don't take the robe of power (MC). I made that mistake in 2019/2020, really regretted deleting my Baron robe shortly after. Let the mages have it.

[@altibzz]

you're 100% right i did the same thing and ended up going back to baron robe. titanic leggings is aq40 recipe.

[@Apav1x]

Also I don't think any fresh discord servers are live yet. The fresh announcement was so sudden we still don't even have the server names yet. The main Classic WoW discord sever does have a guild recruitment channel though. Edit: Names were announced, still don't know about Discord servers though.

[@Craytonex]

Good stuff. Im pretty excited for this fresh server. I've been waiting for a progression server. Going to be rolling warlock this time around did mage in 2019 but got burnt out AOE farming for leveling. This time is fr fr I'll hit 60 without being bored to death

[@nillytv]

DEBUF/AURA LIMIT REMOVED FROM CLASSIC FRESH - this means that specs like shadow priest, classes like warlock, and resto Druid will be much higher performing and completely viable in raid! BUT it also means warrior and rogue are gonna rip even harder.

[@thelastshallbefirst3653]

So multiple druid hots can be active at once?

[@dexascan90]

@@thelastshallbefirst3653 Not on the same target no, they overwrite each other based on who has the highest spell power

[@acetrainerembisonu2278]

Does that mean arms warrior stands a chance now lol

[@dexascan90]

@@acetrainerembisonu2278 What do you mean? Nothing changes for arms that doesn't also change for fury?

[@craigchambers69]

warlock is one of the strongest classes once geared

[@vdmin]

not too hard, not too shitter rouge looking for info on guild, enjoyin the podcast boys

[@nillytv]

discord.gg/StbMUHm4

[@TS-qx3in]

Very interested in playing with yall

[@nillytv]

discord.gg/StbMUHm4

[@Iron.Tarkus]

Oh man glad to see this as a warrior dps main I'm a bit concerned about the sped up timeline. Also would love some fresh server discord links! I'm avoiding going full sweat this round as I did it in 2019 so I'm hoping I can still pump enough to have fun and be happy with some purple parses. All things considered I wish I found any other class even half as fun as warrior in group pve

[@colesc6]

you can casually rank this time around, even easier if you're on horde- that'll be your easy entry as a warrior into gold parses! (up until AQ) kek

[@Huhgundai399]

This was a good one I’d listen if you guys did this more. However I wish during the Druid segment that the guy who absolutely hates Druid would take a back seat and let the other guys who like Druid more talk about it. He sort of took over the entire segment ranting about how much he personally dislikes them and that’s not helpful at all to people who are excited to play druids

[@nillytv]

Druid love is coming. I 100% noticed that so druid is getting their own video, should be out tomorrow

[@nillytv]

recorded it tonight!

[@heftynomad]

Hey dudes, I'm planning on rolling horde pvp server and you guys seem really cool to raid with. I'd definitely be down to join the guild at launch!

[@nillytv]

discord.gg/StbMUHm4

[@ce7190]

Good content, thanks!

[@dtt719]

Shadow guard will proc Blackout stuns making it useful in PvP. I believe undead is still bis for wotf, but trolls are still pretty good. Troll is definitely best in pve due to berserking Devouring plague is good, but it does have downsides. It’s very mana expensive and as a disease it can be easily cleansed. It’s a cool ability but not enough to make undead the clear PvP choice. Undead beats out troll due to their racial ability

[@Lumbermill-wow]

Appreciate it man!

[@benkelly7182]

Undead also have the best dance, laugh, and lovely starting zones.

[@chrijani7]

What mic do you use

[@NgRiBo]

You think shadow priest are viable with the removal of the debuff limit?

[@dexascan90]

Depends what you mean by viable. They'll still do less than half the damage of an equally skilled/geared warrior

[@hvdiv17]

enhancement shaman is insane in classic tbc pvp im doing elemental for classic fresh pvp and in classic tbc ill switch to enhancement. ill level a rogue alt during the first year.

[@Emeraldice]

i played warrior in 2019 , let me tell you when 3/4 of your group in Warsong gulch is warrior, its not much fun.

[@Nin3fingers]

cool stuff dudes, looking forward to the gang getting back together - schipp/tekker

[@Lumbermill-wow]

Long time no see!

[@Nin3fingers]

@@Lumbermill-wow indeed indeed! my life shit is more balanced out now so i'm hoping you guys will take me back after i abandoned you on the dead server

[@Lumbermill-wow]

@@Nin3fingers I think it will be alright.

[@mikki7522]

2 hours?? Dis gon be good!

[@kaponoe2669]

I’d like to play with you guys. Love the Podcast. Send some details please

[@Lumbermill-wow]

I'll see if Nilly will post some details.

[@nillytv]

discord.gg/StbMUHm4

[@tytygreenrich9407]

This will be Fifth classic experience, first and 2005, Second 2019, Third, first time around with servers hard-core, Fourth then season of discovery. Now 2024 another classic being the fifth followed by another hard-core being the sixth? Honestly, I don’t see much in doing something six times over that takes a large portion of your life. To me this sounds like keeping you on the wheel so they can go work on retail. I think the only classic that may have some potential would be season of discovery. And I know I’m not the only one that feels like that.

[@RequiosWoW]

It’s all a treadmill and waste of time, whether it’s the same content for 20 years, or new raids every year.

[@tytygreenrich9407]

@@RequiosWoW i think im just looking for a new wow experience that has the old vibes. that is asking a lot though.

[@craigchambers69]

enhancement shaman gang

[@simpleslug6196]

Are y’all making a guild on east coast pvp by chance?

[@nillytv]

discord.gg/StbMUHm4

[@Jvstm]

Bros casually ignored how easy gearing Ret is and how strong Paladin single target threat is. I've never had any problems finding a raid group as Ret or Prot. I think the casual 95% of players truly don't give a shit.

[@nillytv]

you are right! we love pally we just a a bit beaten down on the ret front but we have a deep love of the spec in pvp

[@Jvstm]

@nillytv I'm mostly just beaten down by the 5% shitting on casuals, the backbone of the playerbase, which ultimately leads to loss of interest and a drop in playerbase.

[@colesc6]

no way you get into raids as ret LOL, sandbag

[@Lumbermill-wow]

@@Jvstm I've been playing paladin for the better part of a decade. I've tanked raids, ive DPS'd them, I've healed them. What you describe is not in line with my lived experience I'm not trying to be negative about the class, but trying to set people up with realistic expectations, if people are going to take the time to listen to me ramble, I owe them my honest opinion.

[@Jvstm]

@colesc6 Most Alliance guilds will take a Ret, if for no other reason than to not throw items away

[@chinbosschinboss2484]

Hey can i join your guild? What server are you running?

[@Lumbermill-wow]

I'll see if Nilly will post some details, dont want to invite people to a scene that they may not want to be a part of. Probably a quick blurb about expectations and the kind of community we want to build.

[@nillytv]

discord.gg/StbMUHm4

[@Sho7274]

im going feral dps mono-cat wish me luck

[@mikeygduv]

Horde pvp guild on fresh eh? Where do I inquire?

[@nillytv]

discord.gg/StbMUHm4

[@Nobody-dc8dp]

Sweaty raiders

[@nameless6878]

F blizzard man, im gonna play on turtle wow 🐢🐢🗡️🆒

[@CctvSecurityCamera-w3j]

Yuck paladin lost my respect...only noobs choose that lame cheese class

[@MusclesMcMassive10]

What do you play?

[@TonyJ1776]

@@MusclesMcMassive10 Horde lol, they hate bubble hearth.

[@Lumbermill-wow]

@@TonyJ1776 This is the best comment ive read.