Choosing to trick Solas with the fake dagger | Dragon Age The Veilguard

[@guilhermeschanner7470]

Despite all, this is the best ending in Veilguard. Tricking the elven god of lies is the best touch of irony

[@vasemir]

Such subtlety, such wits, such dexterity. Of couse an elven god of lies wouldn't recognize artifacts when someone spends a minute switch them with crude, clearly visible gestures.

[@jord839]

@@vasemir Solas means "Pride", and we know that Wisdom spirits are prone to transform into Pride demons. Solas got full of his own shit, especially after getting the hell beaten out of him and with his goal right in front of his eyes. He couldn't conceive of a mortal outsmarting him in that moment in particular.

[@kixmix2450]

I only picked the redemption one because I wanted him to be part of the Veil willingly, so no trying to come out of it. But he deserves this.

[@franzt8955]

​@@vasemirsolas think rook is a moron and would have never thought about a fake dagger.

[@kirikakirikakirika]

It's actually the most petty ending. Solas doesn't learn anything and you end up just like him. At some point, he might be able to escape his prison, and then this starts all over again. In the redemption ending Mythal, the woman who twisted him from his purpose to begin with, frees him from her service and he actually seeks atonement, leaving the Veil up on his own accord. And whether or not I can forgive him for what he did to Varric, it's kind of inconsequential, because Varric himself forgave him.

[@TheSpedy21]

Nituce how the last thing Solas does is chuckle? Varric gavle him the nickname "Chuckles" because he never did.

[@BuildN]

"No, Varric did." why you didn't choose that after what he did is BEYOND me.

[@theelderworm9134]

@@BuildN different players, different motives. Don't forget, a not small part of the player base doesn't like varric.

[@burnedpotatoes720]

I think Varric would approve of Rook's line. Rook wants to honor Varric's benevolence but also bring justice to his death and all the atrocities Solas committed in the name of Mythal. This is why Rook mourns that it shouldn't have to end that way.

[@luuin]

probably because as the player you have zero inkling as to what went on between Rook and Varric prior to the game. hard to feel that strongly about varric when it happens during the 10 years between Inquisition and Veilguard.

[@devinshepley6986]

I chose I didn't want it to come to this because I hate prisons lol - never been in one just don't like the idea

[@LattWest]

This is the best ending without Solavellan on the table in my opinion

[@TheChibiGingi]

Emmrich, who probably spent so much time working on that damn dagger only for it not to work as intended: I can't believe that worked!

[@michelds1980]

This is the best final for a rogue Rook imo.

[@Nightwalker_92]

And a Dwarf as well, The Evanuris "tricked" the Titans and made them tranquils, so now you avenge them.

[@tldrSF]

Tricking Solas is the best ending imo!

[@Adrian7070-h4g]

Why doesn't solas have an army btw? What happened to his followers?

[@madstan2563]

Most likely all dead. He was trapped in the veil for the all game while Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain were spreading the Blight and corrupting everything.

[@Gigantopathetic]

and he probably let them go after preparations because he didnt want to fail them again

[@channel45853]

He also could have got them all killed for something considering his past antics

[@Adrian7070-h4g]

@@madstan2563 And we aren't told anything about this beacause...?

[@mordha86]

He likely lost followers after he betrayed and murdered Felassan.

[@aneeqrehman2528]

This is what Solas truly deserves

[@theelderworm9134]

@@aneeqrehman2528 It's actually very satisfying to trick him, and watch him rage for a moment before accepting defeat

[@gamingwithgav161]

Watching him die was satisfying after what he did to Varric he called my Quanari Inquisitior a tool his friend his former companion he killed Varric I hated him ever since he got Varric killed this is my Canon Playthrough his downfall was my Favorite part of this "Varric taught me well and you killed him" my Female Elf Mage Rook final Middle Finger to Solas and his bullshit motives 🤣🤣🤣🤣😎🖕 Goodbye bald Egg 🥚 🤣

[@isaiahfaux5674]

​@@gamingwithgav161trust me fight him is hella satisfying

[@burnedpotatoes720]

@@theelderworm9134 And on top of that, when Solas credits himself as the one who taught Rook, you tell him that no, Varric did.

[@_vindicator_]

what he would really deserve is to get locked in with the blight, but ah well, cant have everything

[@grandmyotismon]

Solas was origonally a spirit of wisdom, note a spirit of wisdom if being corrupted and turn into a demon will be a PRIDE demon. It makes sense with his charecter the way he can sway from wisdom to pride at a whim almost

[@felipesobral3341]

I like this ending so much.

[@sethconley6263]

Why this isnt considered the best ending ill never know, so satisfying getting rid of that pompous ass once and for all

[@kirikakirikakirika]

Because it's petty. Solas doesn't learn anything and you end up just like his. At some point, he might be able to escape his prison, and then this starts all over again. In the redemption ending Mythal, the woman who twisted him from his purpose to begin with, frees him from her service and he actually seeks atonement, leaving the Veil up on his own accord. And whether or not I can forgive him for what he did to Varric, it's kind of inconsequential, because Varric himself forgave him.

[@taintedblood4381]

@@kirikakirikakirika Solas doesn't deserve redemption. Varric didn't forgive anything since it wasn't even him but an illusion created by Solas using blood magic. It's not petty at all on the contrary it's fitting . Especially his last words when he realized that despite all his claims he saw himself as a superior being just like Elgar'Nan. His last words is him realising that he was never more than an arrogant and delusional man who saw himself as the only being capable of doing things right. Where he says "You are a mortal and I am.... a fool" what he was actually going to say was "I am a god" but he realized he was basically part of the Evanuris, that he had become what he was fighting against previously. By being beaten in his own game, he finally took a lesson of humility and aknowledged and respected Rook for it. It's the culmination of Rook character. The pawn who took the king. It's by far the best ending, the redemption path is just chessy fanservice created for the Lavellan fans. Corypheus made less victimes than this asshole, yet you don't see people crying that he deserved better or should learn something. Not everybody deserve a second chance especially an asshole like Solas who blew up his chances more than once.

[@kirikakirikakirika]

@@taintedblood4381 Wrong. The Varric we meet in the Fade is not Solas' illusion, but an actual echo of Varric. Solas wouldn't leave us alone with a spirit that could encourage us to escape. Varric did, in fact, forgive him. And despite Solas' crimes, he still deserves redemption. At the end of the day, he is an immortal being who was twisted from his original purpose. This is actually on Mythal. Solas never wanted a body, but she forced him from the Fade and it twisted him into Pride. She broke him, and she recognised that in the end. Rooks have many purposes on a chess board. It can take the king, sacrifice itself, or it can pave the way for other pieces. Like it or not, Solas could one day break free, as Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain nearly did, which is why he was planning to move them in the first place. This ending is, indeed, petty. He will live for an eternity. And while you would condemn him to an eternity where he can't do any good, will seethe, and eventually cause even more damage (be it in the Fade or the mortal world), I would rather have him admit to his wrongdoings and condemn himself to an eternity of restitution. It's not fan service at all. This was one of the only endings that ever would've worked. I romanced Cullen, by the way.

[@sarahmorrow3669]

Does anyone know the name of the music that starts when Solas is grabbed by the Fade magic? It's so pretty.

[@klemen680]

It’s called “not the chosen one” and is more often than not Rook’s theme

[@sarahmorrow3669]

@klemen680 thank you!

[@4RedJohn]

It could use a bit more of panicked "Solas, please, think this through! You don't want to do that! The entire world is counting on you" yadda yadda to make it more believable, but I guess it did the trick.

[@wardensurana8336]

Solas, an hypocrite until the very end. This was so satisfying. Only good thing about the game.

[@kirikakirikakirika]

Emmrich was a pretty good thing.

[@devinshepley6986]

This felt like the right ending for me also I noticed he closed his eyes when getting imprisoned looking right at rook makes me wonder does he got something up his sleeve? Was sorta like a big chess player getting beat dude might back some back up idea wonder if might be role to play in other games I seen Solas would have new eye scar and head scar in future if they went a route that you'd encounter him again

[@eiqahalias4633]

I must say... I like this ending. I like this a lot.

[@Luke-ky5ed]

Do you plan on showing the ending with the inquisitor and mythal?

[@PerfectParadox]

It's uploading now done: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3nQhYGlqsd_lZI

[@yaelmurillo1863]

This ending is too thematic and ties directly into the Rook/Solas parallels to not be canon

[@AndyG94]

My future rougue Rook is going for that choice

[@dedexter88]

BEST ENDING!!!!!!!

[@pokefan213]

I'd have said "No, Varric did." NGL kinda wanna know how he reacts to that now

[@samflood5631]

So how do you unlock the whole tricking Solas ending?

[@LARams4lyfe]

complete every companions story arc fully. Get them to Veilguard

[@samflood5631]

@@LARams4lyfe I've already completed all of the companion quests as well as the Solas flashback quests and unlocked the Mythal ending, in my Male Elven Rook walkthrough. Now all I have to is complete all of the Companion Quests in my Female Human Rook walkthrough and unlock the tricking Solas ending.

[@wardensurana8336]

​@@LARams4lyfe. That's not true. I didn't do Taash and Neve's and I could still get this ending.

[@SPEEDJOWRLD]

In my part I have spill his blood like the blood magic

[@hunacean]

This would be such a satisfying ending, if the whole concept of the fake dagger wasn't so lazy

[@jordanpolo5392]

I got scared that he discovered it was a fake and felt dumb. I was thinking “Wait what if he senses the magic is off.” Then he used it anyway. Biggest sigh of relief

[@ImpudentInfidel]

My headcanon is that it only works because it's so stupid it never occors to Solas you would try it.

[@kixmix2450]

Its so stupid that we just wake up and our team hands us a perfect replica they made while we were away. And somehow an encient elven god cant sense that its not the original when its a one of a kind magixal dagger

[@chatterycasque9594]

@@kixmix2450 The dagger isn't constantly emitting magic. It's a normal lyrium dagger until Solas starts the ritual. Once magic starts pouring through, the trap activates and it's too late to stop it. The way I see it, the "fake" dagger is fake through the enchantments. Other than that, physically speaking - it's a perfect copy.

[@Illusivem8ne]

@@chatterycasque9594 normal lyrium dagger. You mean Lyrium, the stuff that when it’s in its raw form makes people sick, outright kills mages and even makes dwarves go mad? Also how do we know the Lyrium dagger doesn’t constantly exude magic? We can use all companions ‘power’ to unlock stuff when the specific companion isn’t in the party with seemingly little to no effort. That could be considered magic right there

[@gamingwithgav161]

Watching him die was satisfying after what he did to Varric he called my Quanari Inquisitior a tool his friend his former companion he killed Varric I hated him ever since he got Varric killed this is my Canon Playthrough his downfall was my Favorite part of this "Varric taught me well and you killed him" my Female Elf Mage Rook final Middle Finger to Solas and his bullshit motives 🤣🤣🤣🤣😎🖕 Goodbye bald Egg 🥚 🤣

[@omnizenn4559]

He doesn't die, he just becomes trapped. For the veil to stay up it has to be tied to an elven god. Since Elgar and Ghilly were dead , that only left Solas to do it, but he insisted on destroying the veil which would flood the world with demons and spirits, so Rook had to trick him into binding himself.

[@maiafay]

@@omnizenn4559no one pays attention to anything anymore.

[@maiafay]

This ending is less payoff because it barely had set up. And you’re telling me he can’t tell the difference between the dagger he made and the one Emmrich made in two minutes? Okay.

[@Streetkillz13]

I mean, it's not really out of character for Solas. His greatest flaw is pride, in his mind, no mortal could ever trick him.He's the god of lies after all and deception. All of the evanuris are defeated by their antithesis. Ghilan'nain creates life for monstrosities, but is killed by a mortals sacrifice, Elgar'nan demands the adoration of the powerful, but is undone by those with humble beginnings, and Solas has always used his aspect of wisdom for meticulous planning, but is defeated by acting hasty because of his pride.

[@maiafay]

@ I have no issue with that in general. What I have a problem with is the hasty set up and lack of understanding of their own character. Solas made his dagger. It’s like someone switching out a piece of furniture you made and replaced it with some Chinese knock off. You picked out the wood, sanded it down, put it together. You’re going to know the weight and texture of it. Even more if that piece of furniture sang a particular song within the wood. I doubt very much Emmrich could duplicate that. If solas was tricked by that fake dagger, then he allowed himself to be tricked on purpose. But that is an entirely different topic of discussion.

[@TheChibiGingi]

Look, besides the whole 'Solas blinded by Pride' thing, the guy's also heavily concussed and took on an Archdemon pretty much solo, so the guy was probably not at his best at that moment. Like, god or no god, you're not going to be thinking straight and noticing things when you're old, you're hurt, you're tired, and you're working with children, so cut poor Solas some slack xD. Also, remember that Emmrich didn't make the dagger to fool Solas. He made it to try and pierce the Veil to both get Rook back and to kill Elgar'nan, but failed (because while it looks and apparently feels the same, it can't cut through enchantments), and the whole 'let's trick Solas with it' was a literal Hail Mary in case you didn't do the leg work to get Mythal's essence for the Redeem ending. Pretty sure Emmrich was just as shocked to find out Solas fell for it as everyone else but is probably happy to have reached a better conclusion than 'everyone died because we really thought we could take on Solas in a fight' ending xD

[@maiafay]

@ If it was something they worked on the entire game, or even a quest like with Anders in DA2, then I wouldn’t have an issue. But it was whipped up off screen, no set up, and relies on players to head canon Solas being temporarily stupid and exhausted and maybe self sabotaging for it to be feasible. Again the writing is my sore spot with this game. The characters are either dumbed down, like Solas, or given godlike powers, like Rook who can somehow beat Elgar’nan in a one-on-one brawl. I don’t care if that dragon dying made him even half the strength. He’s a fricking immortal being, thousands of years old and build like a tank. Yet, here is Rook, whatever gender or race or whatever (hilarious if they are some waifu scrawny elf mage) somehow matching Elgar in strength, going toe to toe. The writing in this game is absolutely awful in some areas.

[@Illusivem8ne]

@@maiafay EXACTLY. Throughout the DA series, the Elven Gods sounded like.. FRIGGIN Gods! And they had power to kill Titans. They controlled Dragons. THEY MADE THE ARCHDEMONS!! but the game has us believe a random guy with no abilities could kill the first ever Elven God with sheer luck and a dagger.. on paper it sounds like a true underdog story. But with no buildup, with no telling us how/why it’s all possible, it’s a dumpster fire of a story and a huge letdown for players who have been waiting 10 years for this game

[@Unknown_Web_User]

Good riddance

[@smk1995]

The Veil should have come down in all endings this is just stupidly prolonging the inevitable.

[@notmeowse]

This is so ridiculously out of character for Solas, it's insane.

[@MarwolfAeducan]

Yeah

[@klemen680]

How specifically? Asking genuinely, Inquisition is almost 10 years old so I don’t remember specifically how he really acted in that

[@Caroline-qr7zp]

@@klemen680 He is the god of trickster, literally immortal and he can't see that the Rook is holding two daggers in this scene? It's ridicolous.

[@theelderworm9134]

Out of character? The same writer has been writing them for a decade, and solas is their favorite character. If weeks tells me this is what solas would do and say, they're the most qualified person to know.

[@sdqazx]

Solas and Elgarnan are same both prideful , Solas just pretends to be good

[@reanaa]

omg that's a horrible ending.

[@alexandraj6572]

at least I’m not the only one that thinks so