Mythal, Morrigan & the Inquisitor convince Solas to stop | Dragon Age The Veilguard

[@glowhoo9226]

I’m still mad we didn’t have the option to side with him. I WANT the old world restored.

[@ashekshanto8537]

Lol same.

[@AlanSmithee-r3t]

Is there an ending where you can side with Solas and destroy the world?

[@Master_Eldrad]

«уничтожить» С чего бы соединение Тени с миром бодрствования уничтожит его? Это вызвало бы коллапсы, но сам мир был бы в порядке.

[@AlanSmithee-r3t]

@@Master_Eldrad Kind of like how the apocalypse would end human civilisation, but planet earth would be fine. We still call it 'the end of the world'.

[@briseis8528]

Unfortunately no

[@colvamoon6962]

No, and it wouldn't make sense, as there couldn't be a sequel. If this game was good, that is.

[@Keram-io8hv]

No! That would be mean and this game dislikes mean things!

[@andrewvincent7299]

It was a good touch to use Solas' Tresspasser theme. This could have been an amazing finale to the Dragon Age saga if Bioware had more competent writers and actually focused on making this game an epic instead of using it as a platform to preach their personal beliefs

[@exnihilonihilum2318]

Its sad because my mage in inquisition take the power of Mythal instead of Morrigan… and now my choice was erased

[@bubblybobabubbles]

We don't know if the Well of Sorrows held a piece of Mythal or not, but regardless, Morrigan's Mythal soul isn't the one from the Well anyway. It's the one from Flemeth. She appeared to Morrigan as her mother, after all. Solas stole her power in Inquisition, but I Morrigan states he didn't take her soul/memories, which sought her out as a vessel instead. Which tracks since that's kinda what Flemeth/Mythal was doing in DAO, passing the spirit through her daughters. It doesn't have anything to do with the Well.

[@exnihilonihilum2318]

@@bubblybobabubbleswe saw literaly the Spirit of Mythal goign through the eluvian 😅

[@sulogaming9338]

Solas, my brother. I will save you one day

[@Meruvan]

Seems this franchise is just out to destroy the elves altogether.

[@danbarnes300]

I loved this scenes. Hear solas theme broke my heart.

[@ramblingdominguez5387]

Writing off flemeth is not okay

[@marklion250]

This is enough reason for me to play this game. Not everyone will understand

[@AlphaAurora]

It's called "closure"

[@Inariele]

i understand you. :)

[@HelloOnepiece]

ok, but how is this more convincing for solas than the combination of DAI and Tressasser?

[@BBS-dl1lt]

I see you don’t read lore entries.

[@bubblybobabubbles]

Many reasons. Not only is the Inquisitor, who clearly still loves him/cares about him despite everything, once more pleading with him- when, especially as a romanced Inky, already significantly weakened his resolve during DAI to the point he almost _did_ give up on his plan- Rook, who he has grown to care about and respect, and a piece of Mythal, a long lost friend who was the first domino to fall all those years ago, have all come together to convince him. He has felt so alone, has hated himself so deeply, and yet here are all of these people, fighting for him. No matter how hard he tried to shove them all away, no matter how he hurt them, here they all stand before him pleading for his soul. Not to mention the emotional turmoil of the last ten years and all the events of the game: having killed Varric- who also cared enough to try talking him down- spending so much time in a prison made of regret, and finally killing the last of the false gods he's fought so long and hard against, which in and of itself has likely been both physically and mentally exhausting. It's the final battle. They're all exhausted, him especially, and yet, these people who he's grown to care so deeply for have rallied to offer him one last olive branch, even after everything. He finally sees that this won't fix his wrongdoings, no matter how much he wants it to. He finally sees that all of these people he's wronged forgive him. So he finally drops his burdens and leaves his plans behind, finally seeing how he can _actually_ atone for these people he loves- not by destroying the world, but by saving it.

[@toniyakovlev4403]

​@@bubblybobabubbles um, he literally proceeds with his plan in DAI despite us pleading AND for all he knows he kills Mythal with his own hands. Now one more time with a better reasoning. How is THIS more convincing than whatever was going on by the end of DAI?

[@bubblybobabubbles]

@@toniyakovlev4403 You... totally missed my points, man. For Mythal, all he did was absorb her power. Since Dirthamen and Falondin were both pieces of a once-whole spirit, this didn't seem to be unheard of in ancient Elvhenan, so he probably knew what he was doing and knew he wasn't killing her. Plus he may have believed it was what she wanted. And since we know the fragments of Mythal are each different, and we know how Flemeth drilled it into her daughter how important past knowledge was to keep at any cost, it may have made it easier for him believe. Or maybe that fragment _did_ want the old world back, we really don't know what Flemythal's motivations were. Yes, the Inky already tried reasoning with him. But this time, there's more factors at play. Not only does the Inquisitor still care about him after so long, there's two more people he cares about- one of whom was the catalyst of all this in the first place- all standing before him at the same time and pleading with him. Despite him doing his best to push them away and keep distant, keep to his goals. Not to mention he's already emotionally exhausted and vulnerable. His resolve is already failing, it has been since Inquisition, and here are three important people all testing that already weakened resolve at a time when he's emotionally raw. In DAI, he likely expected the Inky to show up and ask him to stop. He prepared explanations and probably steeled himself to say no and stick to it. Plus, of course his friend/lover would ask him to end his plan. They don't know what he did, what he must atone for. But for that same friend/lover, who he abandoned, hurt, and betrayed, to once more offer their hand after a decade? After he killed their friend, to still have faith he can be better? To still care about him? For Rook, a respected partner and likely an unexpected friend who he JUST betrayed and tricked and mere days ago discovered he had killed their mentor, to have that same hope for him? To have seen his deepest and darkest regrets firsthand, and yet have faith he can move past them and be better? For Mythal, the catalyst in it all, the one he cared so much about and did all these horrendous things for, to tell him it's not completely his fault and not his burden to bear alone? For her to tell him to drop the emotional shackles to what he thinks she wants, and finally leave her behind? Of course all of that, especially at once, and especially after such a huge fight that left him physically and emotionally exhausted, finally got through. For all of these people he's wronged to still want him to be better? All of these people he's failed and betrayed to offer their hand even after everything he did and all these years? He didn't expect it, he was already wavering, already exhausted and raw. Each person chipped away at him until he finally saw what they did: his past wrongs could not be corrected by more death. It took all of them to get through to him. Rook didn't, the Inquisitor didn't. But with all three of them together, at such a vulnerable moment? Of course he finally realized his self-appointed penance wasn't the right thing to do. Especially with the one he was doing said penance for to begin with telling him he needed to let go of the guilt over her and what she asked him to do. How can a man look at a group of people who he cares about deeply, who still care about him despite all his sins that hurt them, and refuse their offered hand?

[@Pfisiar22]

@@toniyakovlev4403 The way I see it is that his interactions with Rook make Solas reconsider his role in everything. Like, he is forced to confront what Mythal had him do and what was done to him as well. Solas never wanted to be a physical being, but he did so for Mythal, whom he loved. He always felt conflicted by what he felt was needed. It's clear from Trespessar. But the conflict alone was not enough to make him stop. He felt compelled to tear down the veil for many reasons. He truly did want to help the elves and restore what was taken from them. But his deepest reason was guilt for what happened to Mythal and the feeling of duty towards her. It is Mythal releasing him from that duty that breaks Solas's resolve.

[@angelm365]

I want to see Solas collapse the veil also that I amy discover how fantastic reality was when blended with the fade itself.

[@Balinux756]

So, it's a repetition of inquisition, but unlike Corypheus there's a chance to redeem Solas.

[@ziephel-6780]

so... just choose between Inquisition or Veilguard... or maybe just replay Origins lmao

[@Balinux756]

@@ziephel-6780 Oh, I'm certainly not buying this one!

[@ziephel-6780]

@Balinux756 Loghain is far more compelling than Solas honestly.

[@BBS-dl1lt]

Not the same as inquisition at all.

[@bubblybobabubbles]

Did.... did we play the same Inquisition?

[@aldmerian]

So, what happens to the elves? 👀

[@zinanmo]

Back to the alienage where they belong

[@shikalakabum]

Setting is dead, game is silly, writing is worse than fanfic.

[@Musnochu]

Dragon age is dead, sadly. Even DAI feels much better than this “game”. They dont give a f about previous games…. And why should we care about this nonbinary stuff, when Thedas is dying 😭😭😭

[@chuckwells62]

The Veilguard absolutely does NOT deserve the scorn heaped upon it by many KZbin content creators. It IS a terrific Dragon Age game. Just because this game allows a pronoun choice, a top surgery scar selection and discussions about gender identity for ONE character......a few people lost their damned minds? Really pathetic that they didn't just move on.

[@BuddhaJames08]

@@chuckwells62 If Dragon Age Origins came out today it would have the same reaction by the "gamers" and same with Mass Effect. People have lost their minds and can't even enjoy a game.

[@Musnochu]

@@chuckwells62 uh huh, akshually… Taash is not the only problem, i fear. I dont feel any kind of connection with my companions at all! What have they done to Harding? She is not the same Harding from Inquision, its a completely different person. My problem with this game is what it feels like the previous games does not exist. The story is off, the Crows are good people now(remember Zevran? Forget about him, the creators of this game say he is a redflag 🤡🤡🤡) So no, the pronouns are not a break deal for me, but this is not the Dragon age we’ve been waiting 10 years for.

[@lordofgingers]

@@chuckwells62 terrific is a stretch, but i have played the whole game start to finish and I can say I liked it. It was about a 7/10 for me. I like the lore, the core story premise, and the world you get to explore. I mostly enjoyed the gameplay as well. The part that took a big hit was the characters and dialogue, which dragged it down to a 7 for me. Had the dialogue been good, this would have been a terrific game. I enjoyed it for what it was as I predicted I would and since I heavily prioritize lore and core story, I got what I wanted out of this game, but I can totally see how those who prioritize characters were completely let down.

[@RalphCifaretto-iy1hk]

​@@chuckwells62It doesn't allow discussion. You can't disagree with the qunari woman about it or even tell her you dont give a shit about her gender prattle. It isnt even an RPG, your choices mean nothing until the final few hours and you can't be evil or morally grey

[@Theguywholikedthethinginthevid]

Will Solas pull a barv?