Chopping out Legions with Legions in Civ 6 as Rome - Ep. 1

[@xavier9480]

Does anyone else go through phases of thinking civ is so boring and civ is literally the best game I've ever played

[@Basshead004]

I manage to do both at once somehow

[@epic_sheep2120]

@@Basshead004 me too

[@OvidusNaso]

It's called finishing late game and starting a new game

[@dylanw9058]

Yes

[@alexbasta549]

Yes

[@atocanboi409]

"I'm glad I built the Venetian Arsenal" -Potato, Leader of Indonesia, 2020

[@lukasscheurer7580]

"Stop quoting me" -PotatoMcWhisky

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

stop

[@therealJiggySaw]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey no

[@roefaura]

I’ve seen this quote multiple times. What’s this referring to?

[@willgiven8823]

@@roefaura in the tech shuffle video he said that he was glad he built the Venetian Arsenal and immediately said to not quote him on that

[@maelstrumyes3595]

Rome wasn't built in 1 day But it sure did for legions

[@suskawan3806]

Ohh, it was

[@MouseDestruction]

Yeah, tax day :P lol

[@zorkgreywind509]

That's how it went after Cannae defeat.

[@mistercomment8060]

Well, not in one day, more like in one turn.

[@xavier9480]

I think about this comment every day pls can someone explain

[@jasonmaynard2402]

"This city is a little bit harder to defend but it's a little bit easier to defend."

[@BeaverChainsaw]

so its defend

[@kassandra4748]

😂 just got there and was like… wait a moment…

[@ne12follow]

Basically he was saying a reason for it being worse and a different reason for it being better. He was just stating the pros and cons of the decision he was making.

[@cephasodenore6770]

@@BeaverChainsaw 😂😂😂

[@AvengerAtIlipa]

*Vietnam flashbacks* "When the trees start morphing into endless waves of legionnaires."

[@TheMops14]

"When the trees start morphing into endless waves of Germanic soldiers." Teutoburg Forest, never forget.

[@AvengerAtIlipa]

@@TheMops14 *sniff* They were just looking for more trees to chop...

[@Bloodlyshiva]

They're recruiting Ents?

[@carlotruppi3314]

@@TheMops14 “Varrus, bring me back my legions!”

[@thegalli]

Holy crap this war was a real race. One or two mistake moves over the course of the war and it would have all fell apart right there at the Siege of Pihtokahanapiwiyin

[@thefourthrabbit9516]

Yes, then the title of this video would be "How a single crossbowman at Pihtokahanapiwiyin managed to defeat a legion of legions." ;)

[@noahkolling36]

I like the way this video is edited. It feels different from how some of your previous videos have been edited. It makes it super easy to watch!

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I've been trying out zooming in on the things I'm talking about

[@noahkolling36]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey I like that! It reminds me of the way Trmplays edits his videos.

[@tejaskotwal9153]

PotatoMcWhiskey that amanitore zoom tho

[@bihanj5284]

Tejas Kotwal lol ikr

[@johnvalliant261]

That amanitore zoom was the funniest part of the episode lol. Splicing in shots like that is hilarious to me, even if I’m not sure it was intended in this case

[@nath1607]

This is clearly an imposter. Potato never just times the GPT by 20, it's far too simple when you can mutliply by 30, then divide by 0.67, then do some strange nonsense that still ends up having to increase or decrease a deal regardless. If he starts to use hotkeys then we'll know for sure.

[@paploox5404]

Don’t forget ur calculator too !

[@viktorols340]

then multiply by 0.67*

[@nath1607]

@@viktorols340 Nice catch there

[@marciusnhasty]

*multiply with 0.67 Neptune Orion, multiply. gold*30/0.67 roughly equals gold*30/(2/3)=gold*30*3/2=gold*45 🤓 ah, that is what Viktor Ols meant, sorry.

[@davidmills1520]

oh my goodness that is hilarious. I actually did notice, and felt surprised, that Potato just did 20 this time. I love Potato, but also was confused when he talked about how much he wanted a great prophet, then didnt put in the policy card for great prophet; instead opting for 1 gold less upkeep, prior to legions.

[@PieMoe]

34:14 I just got jumpscared by Amanitore

[@drewramey5095]

Same

[@villekorpi714]

The problem with recommending Rome for new players is that their bonuses take passively care of a couple of important early game mechanics that you otherwise need to deal with and thus playing Rome doesn't teach you how to play early game properly.

[@sephapplewhite8477]

This is my problem. I fluked into a super easy Prince difficulty win. I haven't worked out how to win with any other civ.

[@remlapwastaken8857]

Sumeria will always be my go to recommendation for new players. By rewarding you with extra goodies for doing things you should be doing without forcing half cost unique districts and extra adjacency bonuses allows you to learn how to play the game properly so that when you play civs with crazy districts and adjacency bonuses like Japan and the Netherlands, you'll get crazy yields without Peter declaring a surprise war on you turn 29 and taking your undefended capital.

[@kylenetherwood8734]

There is a lot to learn in civ tbf and it's unlikely that anyone would learn all the mechanics in one game anyway.

[@hodarov1564]

@@remlapwastaken8857 idk why you wouldn't have a garrisoned unit at your capital atleast.

[@TomJakobW]

Perrilium I don't; they're out scouting.

[@Jack_Rakan]

Damn, you can even peace out the Cree and loyalty flip the last city so your grievances don't get you in trouble with the other civs for too much longer. Them retaking the 1 pop city was a blessing in disguise.

[@petar4209]

If you find Carthage make sure to conquer and raze the entire country, then resettle it if possible

[@kylenetherwood8734]

He'll need the salt luxury

[@rhyscallinan4402]

It is ironic though

[@d39street66]

Resettle even quicker if the food supply is above average

[@MattTheParanoidKat]

Carthago delenda est

[@RichyRich2607]

Carthage is a City state.

[@pattable2443]

I love your commentaries in these series, it's like a semi-podcast and feels really calming to watch or listen to!

[@tommihommi1]

playing as the Romans to prepare for beating up Romans as the Gauls, I see

[@toasty98933]

You should surrounded Vatican City with your units. For the Roman Empire!

[@Hekkler72]

"I've had God King in too long." Proceeds to put back in God King.

[@Rohi727]

This is strategy that Saruman used when he was building his army by chopping Fangorn.

[@capester]

I would love a series of civ openings. So many civs that I don't know where to take them or how to start with them, that I just skip over them. Which is why I love how you dive into your thought process! Looking forward to this playthrough!

[@thalmoragent9344]

Rome is my favorite Civ, both in game and in real life as well. Ancient Rome and its Empire and Legions is just so cool to study. Rome was my first ever in a Civ game, being Civ6.

[@flaggy185]

We all cry at the idea of not being part of Rome :(

[@abstractviewing]

I appreciate the editing and explaining you do on these sorts of videos. Probably takes hours to complete when the game itself takes a bit out of you too. Thanks, it doesn’t go unnoticed!

[@lelysio5688]

they allways say "theyll never see it coming" but as weve seen: potato did.

[@aidanabregov1412]

This right here is the Civ VI version of *”RACKS ON RACKS”*

[@karlomijaljevic4002]

Drink every time Potato says legion. Dead after the first 10 minutes.

[@iansenrichmedina7041]

I just won my first deity game yesterday! Russia on huge map with science victory at 291 turns. I really do learned a lot through your videos. Thank you!

[@tarbek527]

I used to hate civ6 but I watched almost every video you made Potato and now im in love with this game

[@gungho8180]

I had to give this video a look after googling what the heck another player meant by "chopping legions to make legions." Was not disappointed. Not only did I find what I was looking for, but I also learned a lot just by watching your gameplay. Very re-active and rolling with whatever the game throws at you. As a guy who uses scum saves and rage quits as a crutch when things don't go his way, this really breathed new life into my approach to Civ. Thanks, bro!

[@dlawwd]

Armagh, the one time that Potato doesn’t need to apologize for pronunciation on a weirdly spelt place name

[@wp4988]

I was just wondering when the next potato series was coming

[@danulas]

I was worried it wasn't going to be until after the next New Frontier update.

[@micayahritchie7158]

@@danulas lol ck3 has kidnapped him

[@AliTheTourist]

Conquers a whole civ while in a dark age. Something about sun tzu

[@sandygehrmann6309]

Potato: gets mad about the pronunciation of "Fionn" Also Potato: "Agog" (rather than Agoge)

[@みかちゃん-k4r]

I have more fun watching potato playing this game than me playing by myself. Maybe it's just because once I started playing this game I couldn't stop until the next morning

[@n3rVex]

When you realize you still don't know how to play well after countless hours of playing

[@caydcrow5161]

Swear to god🤣🤣

[@morgancooper4630]

@Mitchell Smith you start a game at 5 and then it’s like 1 am in second

[@r4gnar0x80]

@@morgancooper4630 faxxx

[@NickMart1985]

I clearly have no idea what I am doing.

[@fish5643]

@mitchell Smith hahaha rookie numbers try 2.1k hours

[@mr.tapman8685]

I’m loving all of the editing in these recent videos! It gives so much life!

[@dylanbreger7112]

This was a super fun video, love that it's not just focused on pure min/maxing, although I do enjoy those just as much. Excited for the rest of this series!

[@Lanoom]

I've recently gotten back into Civ 6, and just wanted to thank you for your style of explaining what you're doing. Makes me appreciate and evaluate things much better!

[@doodlecrazydc]

"I'm actually glad that I am early too this video" - Me 21:02 19th Sept.

[@aidanabregov1412]

doodlecrazydc AHA! Someone from across the pond I see!

[@jakemillen6100]

Please do a video on settling 2nd, 3rd, and 4th cities. Loved your "how to settle your first city" video. Need some more concepts for future cities.

[@jakemillen6100]

@Java Monsoon thanks!

[@likeathousandninjas3936]

So glad you came out with this video right as I decided to give old Rome a spin! Looking foreward to see how my run could improve by comparing notes with yours

[@polkanietzsche5016]

37:35 Im happy that potato still explains the city district discount to new viewers haha.

[@S3RiiOUS]

That legion chop fest was perfect. So satisfying to watch. Then the ancestral hall and Great General cherries on top. Damn I love it when a plan comes together.

[@l0remipsum991]

It's basically a race against crossbows. *laughs in Kongolese*

[@johanvdmerwe8598]

Hey Potato are you okay? You sound slightly flueish and you haven't uploaded in a while..with the covid thing just wanted to make sure you are ok man. Thanks for the upload, Rome is my favorite Cuv so really loving this.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I'm fine thanks for your concern, just a bit of chesty allergies

[@WildNIrish]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey Just knock out a couple of those mL with nan's home remedy

[@TimberJackEB]

Firaxis: You can use him to build a fort. Everyone: *chop*

[@Imperial_stroopwafel]

Rome is one of my favourite civs! This is also my first year that I'm learning Latin so that makes it much more fun. Also an amazing let'splay! 👍

[@SuperdreadnoughtLiebe]

Ego manducare asinum, amica

[@MrTNA-ml8tt]

Legion are so underrated, that chopping is insane and gives you earlier hubs, campuses, theatres, encapments, traders, setlers...whatever you want and you take cities easy

[@ihavetomuchtime970]

This video should be called "If Rome Discovered the new world"

[@harshstorm]

that one crossbowman walking out of training like a superhero thinking he'll save them, just to witness the end of their empire

[@asphaltangerteam4103]

Some thought about the early decision making. As what you’ve mentioned,Rome will get a free momentum (most likely +road between the first two cities), so I personally have a extremely high priority for producing a second settler as soon as possible. When I play a standard map size, I would consider producing double scout and then go straight to the settler. Double scout allows you to explore the map quicker ,(with a variety of distinctive advantage, city state, meet other civ, tribal village etc), and it will likely to get the +5 circumnavigation at the ancient era. Rome’s unique building and unit is almost not available for the first era. In order to increase the possibility to get to a golden age (my personal preference though, and I know it’s extremely hard on deity level). If sometimes we are quite lucky to get a 20 point at the first 40t, these extra 5 point can be a defining factor for the entire game as we will have a completely different approach and strategic planning in terms of differ age we move into the next era. Slinger is incredibly helpful in early game, yet due to its relatively low melee strength and mobility, I will recommend to produce it after the double scout and second settler. Anyway, this is just a general approach when playing Rome. It still vastly depends on specific circumstances

[@yihadistxdl951]

My favorite civ achievement has to be the one where you clear nuclear contamination with the roman legion build charge "I missed that day on the history class" its just so good XDD

[@andrewolson4538]

I prefer these videos instead of listening to you interacting with your chat and subs. Thanks!

[@TheLuc224]

I am learning so much watching you. I always can see what I am doing wrong when I play but it is always harder when no one points out the my mistakes directly. Game is still so much fun.

[@portland573]

Perfectly timed Juggernaut rolling. Now able to fill the gaps with hall and free scary monument and sit back and eat grapes and olives till the exo planet is yours.

[@stephenkuhn1761]

Wanted to pass on my most recent Civ 6 adventure. I'm a Prince level player, still learning how to use the lessons I've learned through many many hours of watching your videos. Probably my biggest weakness in my game is getting cities settled quickly enough in the early game and I've been trying to correct that. Anyhow, I was (clumsily) trying to get set up for a Legion chopping rush against my nearest neighbor, Simon Bolivar. But the barbs were just giving me pure hell early on (at one point I had four camps all around Rome and the one city I had forward settled against Simon), so I ended up having to spam warriors and slingers to deal with them. No worries I figured - I could just upgrade them to Legions later as long as I kept enough cash around. And it made me research Archery early. So, I just happen to notice that Simon has no army at all, something like 20 military strength, so I send scouts up his way to sniff around. I find that the barbs, after getting tired of beating up on me, decided to start punching Simon around, they're attacking his capital. And just then a settler pops out one space away from one of my scouts, heading for the same area I was going to forward settle him next. No way in hell was I going to pass up this opportunity, and while I wanted to wait for Legions I decided it was time to go to war with the army I had. So I gather up my band of warriors and slingers, upgrade all the slingers to archers, declare on Simon and steal his settler. I decided to let the barbs soften up his capital while I took his second city with three archers and three warriors, with a few more reinforcements behind. It was totally undefended, no walls, and I take it in two turns with hardly any damage to my troops. I put Magnus in the city to keep it from flipping and then press on to the capital - time is of the essence. The capital was a bit tougher. Simon finally decided it was maybe time to build a few troops to defend himself, and popped out a couple of archers to help out his single warrior. When I saw the first one I detoured to the Wheel so I could buy a Heavy Chariot to help out, but he didn't get into the fight before it was over. It took about four or five turns but my Warriors and Archers finally prevailed, capturing the capital and sending Gran Colombia packing. I lost two warriors but figured that was an acceptable trade. So now, between their two captured cities, the settler I stole and another settler I built while the war raged on, I now have six cities at Turn 59. I'm sure it's lots of fun to overwhelm your enemies with conjured hordes of angry Roman dudes with swords, and maybe I'll still get to try it with Philip of Spain (who isn't real happy with me right now) once I get my new cities off the ground, build up some of the infrastructure in the captured cities that Simon didn't bother with and get the economy back on track. But it's a hell of a lot of fun to Warrior rush a hapless neighbor too.

[@koyouko]

Love the mix between Let's play and educational content

[@coffeebean2]

Nice to see more plants on KZbin! Keep up the good work 👍

[@danielray6067]

I just won my first ever game of Civ (sloppy Emperor science game) as Rome and most of the knowledge is from your vids. Appreciate the good stuff Potato!

[@jmcolext]

Man, you're just so good at this game it's scary. I've been playing Civ since 3 and no matter what I do I get absolutely abused when I play deity. You make it seem like a cakewalk. I almost always lose before turn 100 due to hyper aggressive ai and barbarians, even if I play aggressive.

[@DarkRaven4649]

"So if you've researched 50% of the Civic tree, that means the price will be somewhere between the minimum price and the maximum price." Astonishing insight. :P

[@isaiah1573]

Mans said you didn't have to always be at war but still proceeds to be at war forever

[@sherbert5975]

The editing style is great, it reminds me of Spiff

[@WhenEpicGamesCollide]

Finally got a new laptop today. can't wait to finally be able to play at not lowest settings!

[@gecttakhla4249]

Use a mouse

[@mrtobstah101]

Super educational, really helpful to try and figure out that step up from emperor to deity! Basically I just don't play efficiently enough, your units are swarming 6 legions at a capital around turn 70... Fast. (although I don't have secret societies, but you also didn't have to stop off for a religion either!)

[@st.p.2667]

Rome, the Huns of Civ VI. Fast military production and no need to worry about basics like monuments and houses respectively.

[@yihadistxdl951]

Might just be the first video where Potato doesnt spend 30 minutes just absolutely cooming on yields :D

[@justinallmaras6773]

When I was 12 and started playing civ 3 the first one I ever played I loved playing Rome. They're legion replacement of swordsmen were so strong. Smash any early war. Good times.

[@miro375]

PotatoMcWhiskey should put the Seed of every game in the description.

[@matcat8489]

11:42 is it too much to ask for both?

[@ardt1912]

Been binging your old playgrounds, glad to see you're making more!

[@appleseed6624]

I love how he said he was lucky that Arabia wasn’t in the game, but considering how many civs are in the game that’s like saying it was lucky that a plane didn’t crash

[@mavoc3094]

Sanguine Pact discovered at 4:36 and again at 5:40, though the second one should be the Hermetic Order.

[@seanbrady2232]

It felt so good when you deselected Cliffs of Dover

[@Storkz0re]

15:28 - you showed me these side-arrows to change the number. Just wow. Doesn't knew, that was frustrating to bring my left hand from keeping my chin to the numpad

[@rjashton2]

First video I’ve watched in a while so not sure when you started to do this but I thought that zooming in on elements on screen made it much clearer what you were talking about. Great stuff as always 👍🏻

[@richardwiens5356]

I'm glad to see the lets play back.

[@lamashama3216]

Could you do a video on how the secret societies work they kinda confuse me

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

will do

[@lamashama3216]

Holy cow dude I didn’t think you would respond thanks a lot and your videos are great.

[@alexbuchkov4802]

Hey, Potato. Huge fan over here, you have all my love for you, but there were a few things i would do differently. You didn't utilise the dark age properly- there is a card that gives you a +5 combat strenght to mele units, it would have made your units even more op. You would have needed a few less legions and have better tiles to work in the capital. Also one of the chops was actually on a tile of another city and was used to speed up the shrine. Anyway, rome is simply broken in the secret societies mod. If you get a classical golden age you pop new cities insanely fast, buying settlers with faith, even with only one holy site. Combined with Magnuses ability to not consume population, your empire simply snowballs into a massive power house noone can stop.

[@Horpetii]

Yes secret society looks "too good" in that scenario (and probably in general). 3 promote Magnus+pingala+Victor and buffs from Voidsingers when you had only 3 promotions at max that point. +holy site synergie - probably Rome would not pick fast holy site on basic mode. People had enough struggling against diety AI on standard mode over the years. :) I tried this on immortal and it works. The higher the difficulty the less viable the early rush against AI. But it would be sad not using legions with Rome simply due to "not good enough" against fast AI crossbowman. Probably in that case legion would be for defense.

[@GreekRoyalty]

Do you suppose in a future update we could see a similar type of filter for city states as was added for the natural wonders?

[@emekon9438]

I want a filter against civilizations. Because I want to filter Korea and Arabia for every game I set up, Korea for their ridiculous amounts science ruining my game plan for me and Arabia for stealing my hard earned prophet from my hands.

[@LaGShoTz]

I actually learned 2 things from this: 1 I didn't know about the loyalty penalty if you found a religion in a city that already has a religion. And 2, that the cost of a district is locked in upon placement.

[@scottfoltz699]

at 8:30 is why I subscribed. M'thanks, spuds.

[@BDragon_12]

"I'm glad I built the Venetian Arsenal" -Potato, Leader of Indonesia, 2020 (Isnt is mine but nvm)

[@ImpuneKing]

Recent subscriber here. I love this game and your videos man. Ive learned so much about this game just watching you play.

[@boratrules1641]

Everybody gangsta until rome's legions start attacking

[@ayyahum7696]

I dont play the game but i do enjoy watching it. Specially with potatoes commentary

[@liamraine1]

Your new editing style is much improved.

[@prismpyre7653]

omg this is so much better than your older videos with the chatroom going on I hope you do Korea again sometime, lol

[@vissarionbashkovez823]

Oh no, glorious crossbowman, the hero of Cree!

[@TeamBevontation]

I just started a game as Rome and went on KZbin on my phone while the game loads. This was the first video suggestion.

[@CosmicIceCream]

The thumbnail gets me every time. Genius.

[@dwhizzel6471]

Sometimes I can't be bothered playing civ but still wana get amongst so I watch your vidz

[@willnestor69]

Quiltillius Varus! Chop me out my legions! - Caeser Agustus, probably

[@thedirtbagstash]

The Cree are basically standing in for Gaul in this video.

[@matthewparsons7497]

Would be kinda cool to have Rome aligned with a Vampire clan, conquering and feeding on enemy cities before bringing them into the Empire

[@kevinkrug466]

Got to be one of the greatest thumbnail of all time... I'm mean come on, it's fucking up there Jack!

[@DaveJC84]

How did the production transfer from the warrior to the legion? Doesnt it just stay on the warrior or did I miss something ? Thanks 21:20

[@onurjor]

i love the way u describe how u play and your choices

[@eyeborg3148]

You could try the trick where you kill the Cree and then take one of their rebelled 1 pop free cities like Wihkasko-Kiseyin, liberate it, and bring the Cree back from the dead. They'll forget all their past grievances with you and be great friends, and you'll get a bunch of diplo favor too.

[@Imperial_stroopwafel]

Why didn't you do the tech and civics tree shuffle mode? I thought it would be much fun.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

tech shuffle mode is more for fun

[@Imperial_stroopwafel]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey oh ok

[@paploox5404]

sᴉɹoq wouldn’t have worked with his strat as he rushed legion

[@ptitjoe2009]

Potato using Rome that’s bad that’s just bad (for the AI)

[@yougothacked2489]

I found it that rome is the perfect civ for science victory if you build the campus as the first thing in any cities and expand very quickly

[@Ninnoization]

How did you make your legions cost 2? mine still cost 10 think i missed something. A content idea for you should be simple strategies such as how to mass produce legions (maybe 10 - 20 minute videos), and arrange it like bullet points in order of what singe things you need to make the strategy work and ignore most city building stuff (unless relevant). Much more content for you, and interesting learning videos for us :) full campaign videos make it really easy to miss the nuances of what you do.