Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History - Part 23

[@genosamuel2.1]

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[@danabnormal9524]

Normal people: Dating takes time Chris 0.213 seconds after meeting a woman: we are now soulmates

[@BinarySecond]

I am 100% convinced that Chris cannot tell the difference between physical attraction, infatuation and love.

[@MrFusion]

And then he starts groping them. I can't believe people really defend him after hearing about shit like that.

[@BlackThreath1234]

He believes real world is like Sims where you only need to talk to a person for like 5 minutes to then get married

[@alucard6919]

@@MrFusion He has the mental capacity of a child. I haven't heard yet anyone in a position of authority tell Chris how to act appropriately towards anyone. He needed that guidance.

[@tylerstewart5829]

@@alucard6919 Literally anytime somebody gives chris genuine advice he ignores them. Also nobody needs an authority figure to tell them not grope people, especially when the person getting groped repeatedly asks you to stop.

[@Bucketus.Lord.of.Buckets]

"why would he go after his brother? That's sick" Yeah Chris, incest is disgusting

[@zachshark2901]

Aged like fine wine

[@schoob4822]

@@zachshark2901 spoiled milk*

[@jerg]

@@schoob4822 the finest cheese*

[@reinerbraun9103]

@@jerg raw meat left out for weeks

[@rexventura4603]

@@reinerbraun9103 like a century egg

[@117Hams]

I swear if you watch enough of these in a row you can literally feel yourself going insane

[@Mother.Dot.]

I feel it, I've cried a bunch of times.. I feel like this is my son and I let him down.. I have a son in real life he's 7 and I'm scared this could happen to him. I want to do the best for my son after watching these.

[@lmno567]

@@Mother.Dot. at least you have an idea of what not to do and what to look for

[@RatkingGorbo]

@@Mother.Dot. We all failed Chris Chan

[@gerald4535]

@@Mother.Dot. This is a result of a person with an intellectual disability not being pushed in the right direction. His parents neglected to do so many basic things (like taking his internet privileges away) that could've stopped this madness 10 parts back. I watched a family who has a son that could end up like Chris due to his intellectual disabilities and autism (Moreso being teased by trolls. Not being shitty) and his parents don't allow him to play games with chat features unless they're around or it's only people they know (family friends' kids). His sibligns also play and keep others at bay who may join games. Chris was neglected in many areas. Your baby boy won't be if you're a great parent.

[@Mother.Dot.]

@@gerald4535 I understand, thank you for telling me this.

[@spunttt._.]

“I would never do blood and gore. That’s just... gross” Says the guy who drew himself shooting liquid in the legs

[@xehP]

glad you could spot chris chans reoccurring logical inconsistencies...

[@l0o53r8]

and not long after, murdering the Asperpedia Four in gruesome fashion

[@grandmasterflash8710]

And the numerous comics showing close up nude scenes lol

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

Maybe it doesn't count because Chris is bad at drawing.

[@PhoenixEnforcer101]

If nothing else, Chris is a massive hypocrite

[@bigladtom]

"What if Asperchu created you?" is truly one of the funniest sentences ever uttered by man

[@summerwhittaker3638]

this was such an interesting question philosophically and i had to pause and really ponder it

[@bena2591]

@@summerwhittaker3638 I am STILL pondering it...

[@darkrider189]

In Soviet Russia...

[@luccafortestoledo1300]

@Rex Aura I was hoping someone would say that

[@floydhebert3684]

“It looks crappy compared to mine. Even my mother agrees.” is a close second

[@kie2]

Alec's calls are way more entertaining because he tries to catch Chris in logic traps instead of just yelling him. I can't stand listening to Bluespike but Alec's calls are great

[@kylefields3951]

I've watched this series multiple times and I HAVE to skip like all the audio calls with Kacey and Bluespike and the trolls, that shit is IMPOSSIBLE to listen to imo. But I listen to Alec just fine because he's not really trolling at all.

[@UndeadSlayer5]

@@kylefields3951 at least that Alec was nice about it

[@youtubeeee6682]

no

[@TheNexDude]

@@kylefields3951 you can catch that he's trolling a bit but he was generally trying to make Chris responsible for his own actions.

[@kylefields3951]

@@TheNexDude Yeah that's the thing. He was mostly just being cordial, even of he was a bit tough on him at times.

[@atomictortoise]

The fact that he forced a pastor to read sonichu fanfiction never fails to make me giggle

[@Nerdbookworm]

Oh god, I’m not that far in the video, Jesus

[@MutaScale]

Pastor- :Finished Sonichu up to the point of the video, looks at Chris; ... I am now convinced God doesn't exist, because if he did, there would be no way he'd let you get this far with this ungodly abortion of a comic, let alone living. Chris-Chan- ... So what you're saying is Asperchu is worse? Pastor- Get out.

[@calebsmith9773]

@@MutaScale that last line 😂

[@MutaScale]

@@calebsmith9773 thanks.

[@DaRealKing303]

All of this is CRINGE

[@Zarnirox]

I can probably see the Liquid saga as being "funnier" (at least in the first half, even he became more grating as Kacey got involved), but I find Alec to be much more interesting. He tapped into something that no other troll thus far has realized. You don't need to be berating or manipulative or hell, you don't even need to be overly assertive. All you really need to aim for is a calm, level-headed conversation between adults. Chris' absurdity then speaks for itself.

[@masshysteria200]

Yeah, if Kacey never got as involved as she did, the Liquid Chris arc would've been much, much better

[@ecru_5819]

Genuinely Alec's arc is my favorite for that reason. He just talks to Chris, and Chris exposes her foolishness. There is no need to be a grating, manipulative, aggressive, BlueSpike-y troll. Just be Alec and that's that.

[@thesaurus9226]

@@masshysteria200 Everyone always says this, but the fact is that CWC would not have been motivated to interact or compete with Liquid without the promise of CHYNA which he believed was rightfully his.

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

I be must one of the very few people who actually found the liquid saga boring.

[@BlaqueValue]

That's what I'm saying. Everyone so hard had been worse than CWC and I felt bad for him because demons from the internet were hunting him. Now I know his psyche is scarred but he's still a cringey weirdo

[@aj9751]

It's so crazy... Chris's insistence about a fictional character's feelings shows how his ideas about the dimensional merge are forming. His delusion has been slowly forming in front of us. I had no idea how far he'd take it though.

[@lindinle]

i want to see how far it CAN go.

[@ProfessorChocolateCake]

I wonder what made Chris suddenly start to believe this because in one of the earlier parts he clearly states "Death Note is not real, it is just an animated TV show".

[@pendulousphallus]

I don't really get the Dimensional Merge Saga. From what I can grasp, it wasn't exactly that Chris took it too far, it was more that he was pushed super far out with some heavy handed coercion. He hasn't made his way back to shore because that would mean owning up to being made a fool of, but this should burn itself out eventually. I mean it should have ended a long time ago, but this only ends with him abandoning the project of being a saviour of worlds and moving on to some other hobby. It will all work out.

[@omg1337kkthx]

I was going to say something similar but you beat me to it.

[@ericevan8752]

I agree, I didn’t know how long ago a lot of this started but I think a lot of the reason is because it went unchecked for so long. Weren’t his parents actually fairly supportive of sonichu? Perhaps that played a part as well?

[@Nerfyboy800]

At this point I know more about Chris then I do about myself

[@averagedoc3633]

Danny Naddeo The real Chris Chan was the friends we made along the way

[@MaskedKittyYT]

Average Doc i funnily enough actually meet a super nice girl due to chris chan idiocy, granted me and her aren’t dating or anything but we’re super good friends and talk very openly and often about chris chan’s current insanity.

[@averagedoc3633]

Masked Kitty Me too, in a way. Chris Chan is an excellent case study honestly, often talk about this stuff for hours with friends

[@CB-qg3yh]

By the end of it, we all will

[@Arrakiz666]

@@DrBidoofenshmirtz You laugh, but chris-Chan really is more of a collective ideal, an archetype, than a real person.

[@nickyaerobones]

That exaggerated sigh that Chris does REALLY boils my piss.

[@genosamuel2.1]

Ew

[@mariatwilightsparkle2593]

Boils your piss? Yikes.

[@timekeeper2738]

how

[@Kelpflakes]

Hot

[@101Volts]

You've watched AVGN too, I suppose...

[@stephanielove2847]

Can we all just take a moment to recognize that Chris' burning hatred for aspergers is literally because it sounds like "ass burgers?"

[@bobbyshaddoe3004]

That's why he dislikes the term, he refers to it as a terrible cut of meat.

[@coolkat4919]

He probably got it from south park

[@stephanielove2847]

@@coolkat4919 I could be wrong, but I feel like this predates south parks episode. Otherwise it totally tracks.

[@Windyyyyyyyyy]

@@stephanielove2847 it most likely predates it

[@goiabexp]

@@Windyyyyyyyyy Yes, South Park made that joke in 2011.

[@yaboymintz]

The whole dimensional merge stuff makes a lot more sense now. I thought it was a newer thing, but I guess he’s always thought the Sonichu world was real.

[@deepbludreams]

Chris has not had serious mental help since he was in highschool, from what we are gathering he's suffering from some form of schizophrenia in some way, he's gotten more violent and prone to insane outbursts as time goes on, there is nothing left upstairs at this point, he's truly insane. At this point he wants no help, nor will the state help him.....I fear he is going to just snap at one point here, I just hope when he does, he only harms himself and nobody else.

[@Rainaman-]

Yeah, this blew my mind. And I thought Chris is just losing it in recent years, while in reality he was already lost.

[@Navak3]

@@teetywoo3156 I think the term mentally retarded applies here, not being used as an insult. Retarded referring to "inability to grow". Chis seems like he didn't cognitively develop past maybe a 9 or 10 year old which makes sense for a lot of his behavior.

[@myname9130]

@@teetywoo3156 You don't understand how mental illness works. He can't just "grow up", he's got severe mental issues that have gone untreated for his whole life and have constantly been exacerbated by trolls and other horrible people. Chris can't just flip a switch and be normal, he needs professional help and he's too far gone to get it voluntarily.

[@DarthJoshReturns]

@@Navak3 Even 9 year olds are capable of distinguishing reality from fiction?

[@ASAPLocksmith]

"Don't call nintendo, you don't need to do that!"

[@Green-Raccoon777]

He should have done that anyway. Would've stopped the madness right there.

[@mousaey]

"Don't call anybody!"

[@benjaminholcombe9816]

"How can you own a copyright on something Nintendo already has copyrighted"

[@r3n3gad33]

Sometimes I wish Nintendo would order a cease and desist letter to Chris for his comic so he could finally get a real job.

[@ASAPLocksmith]

@@r3n3gad33 I've always wondered why Alec never told Chris " I just spoke to Nintendo HQ, they said they've never heard of you nor given you permission to use any of their licensed media, they did however mention the legal department would look into it and contact you" now that would have been an interesting conversation.

[@picklestherandomtoon3151]

Holy shit this might be the most unlikeable Chris has been yet. Him calling Alec's art crap is just downright embarrassing.

[@andrewmilito2634]

"My mother even agrees that mine is better!" is legitimately the line of thinking of a child in kindergarten

[@DarthJoshReturns]

That's like Justin Bieber telling Michael Jackson he can't dance.

[@rollcaskett1812]

His art exists to mock Chris and everything Chris is passionate about. If someone mocked my deceased dog through art I'd probably call it crap too.

[@perp5879]

@@rollcaskett1812 But Chris's "critiques" are about how its drawn, not it's intent.

[@perp5879]

@@rollcaskett1812 i didnt think about it like that, didn't warrant being called a smart ass but okay

[@mothmaiden4413]

"Even if he was gay, why would he go after his brother? That's just sick." Ohhh the foreshadowing

[@thegoblinking.]

Interesting how chris previously stated that he thinks a romantic relationship between sisters may be ok because they cant procreate.

[@BigYosh]

DOIN YA MOM

[@dakcka]

Oh the misery

[@Hellscap3]

Didnt he like on email or over text say he had "dreams" about his mother. Implying it was sexual in nature?? Before trolls suggested it.

[@dukenukem69]

For the brobussy of course

[@CrackProductions]

Chris: “He’s burning me alive in the comics! Unbelievable” Also Chris: *Proceeds to make several pages dedicated on torturing his trolls*

[@Lozzomatic]

Also, also Chris: Proceeds to draw a panel of him shooting Liquid Chris

[@lindinle]

and also of him forcing his characters to have sex.

[@anfruitwhocantx]

Dont forget about killing LGBTQ members

[@lindinle]

@@anfruitwhocantx and the gay genocide, via a "cure"

[@anfruitwhocantx]

lindinle ah yes, the closest thing to ethnic cleansing in sonichu

[@colony4795]

You can feel Chris’s insanity just slowly seeping through the cracks. Honestly scary to listen to him talk about believing sonichu is real, knowing what becomes of him in less than a decade.

[@MicroBihon]

I blame the idea guys. Im glad they got doxxed out.

[@jeremyknight9980]

When I first heard him say that I was like "Oh... so he was always schizophrenic". Then it just got worse and worse now the freak is on Randy Stair levels of insanity.

[@CaracalServal]

@Oggy yeah, seems like idea guy just nudged him over the edge

[@kektuss]

And the whole “trying to hypnotise people with Spanish”

[@deepbludreams]

@@MicroBihon Idea guys just pushed chris over the ledge and validated his insanity, Chris was always fucked.

[@axllaw427]

Alec's phone calls with Chris reveals so much about Chris' losing grasp on reality

[@michaelstrong5383]

That whole Who Framed Roger Rabbit similarity was creepy. I'm an autistic person who loves film and animation, but even I know the world and characters are not real.

[@marvelfan2.059]

Well ,that`s if Chris ever relay "did" grasp reality to begin with?

[@mcray0309]

Michael Strong that’s why I genuinely have a hard time thinking Chris is just autistic, I honestly think he has a hatred of mental illness and because of that he has never been able to be honest with a doctor and get a good real diagnosis, he definitely is autistic but he has a psychoactive disorder

[@bane4490]

Chris had a grasp on reality to begin with? Lol

[@mcoupe69]

Those particular phone calls were surprisingly hard to jerk to

[@misterguyman9669]

Bluespike: *sexually assaults Chris Kacey: *Emotionally manipulates and gaslights Chris. Alec: *pokes holes in Chris' logic. (The best troll imo)

[@DarcyWalker]

Alec isn’t even much of a troll just a guy trying to figure out how Chris’ brain works

[@ineophobe]

the virgin chris bully and the chad pointing out chris hypocrisy

[@DarcyWalker]

@@fansee1368 yeah Kayce was cringe

[@randomaccount8827]

@The Best Part About Making Meatballs bro

[@jackcinephile7554]

Kacey gave some legitimately good advice tho

[@SPACYtunes]

This is my favorite saga so far. Alec is just calmly poking holes in Chris' hypocrisy and they're genuine criticisms, it's hilarious to listen to Chris squirming. This isn't like Bluespike where a megalomaniac is manipulating him to physically abuse himself, this is Chris being taken to task about how he treats other people.

[@aladinsane9785]

S P A C Y Yee

[@prw56]

And in the absence of pity from bullying, he seems even more awful.

[@mandlin4602]

I know the only troll who made any real point

[@garrettmetting6938]

I honestly like this better than liquid chris

[@smugleaf8479]

its like alec is giving chris a chance to be normal but chris just cant handle it

[@rosenrot234]

Still blows me away that Chris thinks when he steals characters its parody. But when someone does a parody on him it's "theft"

[@MaskedKittyYT]

rosenrot234 it’s because Chris has the childish mindset of “its only okay when i do it and if you try to do it too i’m gonna take my ball (sonichu) and go home!”

[@juxie9229]

Why do so many furries criticize chris chan? You realize he's only slightly lower than you on the social totem pole right?

[@rosenrot234]

@nikola ocskai I really don't care

[@krxxc.kk6]

@@juxie9229 aight nigga, since when did a anthro profile picture make you a furry? Also furries are people too and aren't anything less than people who aren't furries, I swear niggas like you are mad ignorant for no real reason bruh.

[@Lia-wj6fk]

@Oggy Part of it isn't really about his mind being warped, more that he's trying to warp everyone else's perception because he knows he's full of shit. Chris knows he has no legal standing but is trying to wriggle his way out of recognising it, just like everything else he does that's wrong.

[@kenziecullen4434]

“He then attempts to play a harmonica” I gotta say, I’ve come to expect some pretty bizarre antics from Chris... that was not one of them

[@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite]

Me too, that catched me by surprise and I needed to catch my breath 😂😂😂

[@ZeranZeran]

@SuperPikachu Jexs WHERE DID HE RAP? I need to see that. CWCERAPS

[@supercharliegalaxy]

I was smoking bowl when that happen and I lost it XD

[@bigbillyboombutt]

I never asked "where the fuck did he get a sex doll" but I did ask "where the fuck did he get a harmonica"

[@SlightlyShoobie]

I love that everything that Chris hates about Aspergerchu is exactly what sonichu has been all about previously. Killing people, sexual content, cursing... It's all there

[@jammy8913]

And yet Chris intended that the comic's for kids?

[@cameronpeterson6734]

​@@jammy8913No.. you see, he censored the nudity during the sex scenes so it can be safe for kids. (I'm joking of course)

[@TheFallofTheEleventh]

I love how Chris acts disgusted at the knock off comics having sexual images like he wasn’t making his own LOL

[@foof811]

He made his own TRUE and HONEST “hanky panky scenes” to try and prove, something, to the trolls lol.

[@sgtraytango]

To be fair to Chris, he only did that because trolls forced him to, or they made claims the characters were gay so he tried to correct that in his own way.

[@KarnRulez]

I love how his pastor got just as tired of Chris as everyone else.

[@BronzeMantis]

When did he say that?

[@cjshaw3875]

@@BronzeMantis It's implied by the fact that he states she read the whole book cover to cover. Sounds like it's a lie they told Chris just to keep him at bay.

[@michaelstrong5383]

It's like in the Simpsons where Reverend Lovejoy gets sick of Flanders calling him on the phone every time, except Flanders had at least some charm in him.

[@HeavyMetalBeliever]

@@michaelstrong5383 Exactly. Ned Flanders is a true and honest individual and Chris Chan is just a pathological narcissist with (arguably) undiagnosed schizophrenia.

[@johnschultz1650]

Steel4 I doubt he’s schizophrenic, just a delusional piece of shit that can’t keep his bullshit straight

[@davisrailey4157]

Chris: "He sets me on fire!" Also Chris: *shoots Liquid Chris in the kneecaps in his comic*

[@johnbacon4997]

I love how he also complains about sex content in asperchu when he has entire novels of porn

[@thomasoates3003]

In Sonichu 10, he has Alec electrocuted to the point his body catches fire. The irony.

[@scarlettbaltazar4121]

Well yeah, thats because Chris was acting out of self defense since liquid was coming at Chris with a knife, for god’s sake!!! /s

[@socoamarettojustine]

i love when kasey confronts chris about that and he’s like “well i didn’t kill him”

[@lucrazy1411]

I love how Alec’s trolling style is ridiculously simple, yet highly complex, compared to all previous trolls. He is just calling Christian out for exactly what he is. No jokes, no games, no galpals; just pure honesty. Christian cannot handle it.

[@antblake1030]

Yes, Alec is smarter than the average bear. I mean Alec itself is a classy, intellectual name. And, "Galpals"! Ugh, that crap is cringe worthy. EVERY one of his Galpals was a troll and Chris is too dang delusional to realize that even in high school, all his Galpals were paid hefty sums of cash by Bob to be Chris friends. This saga is refreshing, no dying inside when Chris falls in love with a girl who derives pleasure from actively hating him.

[@big_sea]

truth

[@kevin76165]

Tbh I think the phone call with the gal-pal’s “dad” a little earlier was a lot similar to this. Yeah, he insulted him, but honestly most-all of it was completely true. He acted like an actual matured father would, and Chris gave him all the info he needed to convince someone he just met that he’s a loser.

[@ΓιωΜπα]

Chris never saw the "truth". Something that noone mentions are his original gal-pals, the girls from highschool. They were literally paid actors by his own father. Chris never had a view of reality in the first place. Truth, not actually going along with what he says and not gaslighting him, is actually a totally new thing for him

[@ladycanada35]

this guy is just as bad as the others

[@EymericSeven]

Person : "flawless argument" Chris : "groans" Person : "more arguments" Chris : "well huh okay the point is..."

[@roseqore8073]

_someone: valid statement_ _chris: anyway-_

[@lebidu9100]

Chris: "mmm"

[@tonysoprano200]

Ok

[@tonysoprano200]

Ok

[@prw56]

Kinda thing that makes you go from pity to maybe you had this coming.

[@TheAlmightyLoli]

Alec was a master at making Chris play himself. Not as outright funny as Liquid, but super good at pointing out how egotistical Chris was.

[@reloadpsi]

I kinda liked that better honestly. While obviously being very passive-aggressive, you can't accuse Alec of having not been civil.

[@axllaw427]

Alec isn't really a troll. He's just trying to negotiate a diplomatic solution with Chris and talk some sense into him

[@gabrielleeeSK]

@@axllaw427 he's the best kind of troll

[@MightnightSamuraiSake]

Explosion !!

[@keyboardking777]

The Alec saga was the most frustrating saga because Chris is just a fucking DOUCHEBAG here. He's smug, ignorant, egotistical, and thinks his shitty disgrace to art is waaaaay better than Alec's because "iT's hAnD-dRaWn". I just wanna punch him in his smug arrogant face here.

[@justusususus1079]

Alec is honestly the best troll he’s not overly mean he talks professionally to Chris and doesn’t tease him. He lets us view normal Chris chan and try’s to get him to expand on his ideas and questions them.

[@hellhog7368]

Justususus Us he has a pass to say but i digress not chris chan

[@wana3667]

i think that this Alec is ssethtzeentach

[@jsly621]

Of all the trolls, Alec is the most generous in terms of giving Chris multiple opportunities to escape the trap.

[@CloaksCosplays]

*several Liquid Chris fans are typing*

[@Sasha-ff5ce]

standb2 granted, Liquid Chris did “harass” Chris but only in basically the exact same Chris harassed Liquid.

[@jasminegreen7412]

I appreciate how Alex talks to him professionally and actually let’s Chris explain himself. It’s really refreshing seeing Chris be able to have a actual conversation with someone that isn’t constantly teasing him just to witness how Chris naturally responds to certain interactions, pretty interesting tbh. He doesn’t baby him and talks to him adult to adult he sounds like he’s genuinely trying to figure out what’s going on in Chris mind refreshing to see a troll that doesn’t constantly tell Chris to kill himself when they have nothing to say tbh

[@GT-wj3gl]

Yeah these are probably my favorite calls in Christory.

[@staringcorgi6475]

So did Lars this person who’s behind them isn’t an evil and mean troll

[@ginogatash4030]

in a way it's worse for Chris cause everytime they talk you can feel he really wants to lash out at Alec and give him a piece of his mind, but he blue balls Chris' anger by calmly dismantling his arguments without any malice, essentially taking the anger out of him, which leaves Chris without catharsis, which is why he made so many videos on Alec where he would be free to let out his rage as Alec wouldn't be able to respond in real time, which in turn gives Alec more arguments to use against him and stress him out further with unreleased anger during conversations. Liquid really got to him, but his reciprocating of insults and accusations allowed Chris the catharsis of flipping the imposter off, he can't get that with Alec as he doesn't get bothered or antagonize him, so he can't claim victory over the argument as he can't disregard whatever he says as a just another meanie harassing him, and he certainly can't prove him wrong on when he points out Chris' hypocrisies, he is essentially blue balled and its getting to him in a manner much more insidious than Liquid's impersonation.

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

@@ginogatash4030 Chris wants to be the hero of his life's story, and many of the trolls have willingly taken the villain role, but Alec is too neutral for Chris' simplistic black-and-white view of the world. Logic and reasoning aren't compatible with Chris, who acts on desires and impulses.

[@silentotaku8]

@@MegaManXPoweredUp spot on.

[@BazTheStoryteller]

I wonder how Chris' pastor reacted to the graphic sex scene in Sonichu.

[@michaelbugner7011]

The fact that he's dragging his pastor into this and showing them this. I feel so bad for them having to deal with Chris.

[@polkadotalien1]

That's kinda intresting where was his religious support during this? Dont a large majority of religious people go to them for support?

[@alwaysangry2232]

@@michaelbugner7011 he should have got him institutionalized , or tried

[@doktawhawee9870]

If I know anything about people in religious groups, it’s that they refuse to criticize follow Christians, no matter who they are or what they have done.

[@alwaysangry2232]

@@doktawhawee9870 no wonder they got the rep they have

[@goojo173]

Chris isn’t even speaking Spanish there. As a native Spanish speaker, I can confirm that he is IN FACT speaking complete gibberish. Some words are actual Spanish words, but that grammar sure is...something.

[@simplyfine7905]

GooJo Spanish isn’t my native tongue but I can converse well. I had to replay that part a couple times cause I was like “what?!?”

[@michaellessel5532]

Probably because some of it was just backwards English. (Not denying his Spanish sucks though)

[@lorepyo2832]

Eso mismo estaba pensando, le entendí algunas palabras pero lo demás es como esas veces donde un niño pone palabras en Inglés (que ni siquiera lo dice bien) para probar que habla ese idioma

[@zyzdzy]

@@lorepyo2832 sooooo… what’s going on with your profile picture…?

[@chimp4225]

@@zyzdzy she’s eating a hot dog, obviously lol

[@liammeaney4227]

Word to the wise... Don't fall asleep to a playlist of these videos. chris entered my dreams last night and it was just as terrifying as you'd expect

[@DudeHesRaggingonYourCord]

This is exactly why I choose the more calming King Cobra JFS to sleep to (no joke)

[@Lucrativecris]

What was the dream about?

[@ErastusSoverus]

@@Lucrativecris YAH WHAT WAS THE DREAM LIAM

[@acrid2695]

“Hello liam, I would like a word with you.”

[@camdenlove3348]

Jokes on you I have anyways because I don't dream

[@cuileann8240]

The Alec phone call was so refreshing. Calling Chris out but not yelling, gaslighting. I was really zoning out during the Kacey calls, she was insufferable.

[@antblake1030]

So was her MAGA marine caricature/stereotype dad. LOL, he made me cringe.

[@anti79]

​@@antblake1030 nah, the dad was funny

[@spongytrout7462]

@@antblake1030The dad was hilarious he sounded like Joe Swanson tbh

[@rollcaskett1812]

Kacey sucks but Alec isn't any better. They're both bullying and manipulating a mentally challenged manchild. These are disgusting people hardly deserving of praise.

[@samhenson8177]

Her voice is so stereotypical “bad high school play actress”

[@idrathernot7947]

Alec is my favourite troll so far. He converses with Chris in a civil manner offering constructive criticism, unlike previous "trolls" who are just manipulative, abusive, and gaslights Chris.

[@Killerstar13]

That's why it's just boring. You will have a better job convincing a concrete wall to better itself. And still more entertaining. Chris REEEEEs more to my surprise though.

[@HomekittyL2]

@@Killerstar13 I actually found it very interesting and entertaining to watch. It's telling of how awful and shitty Chris really is. Alec calmly and rationally makes his points while pointing out the flaws in Chris' logic. All Chris does in response is bring up other shitty points or lash out, or just sit and sigh. It goes to show that Chris isn't a poor innocent angel, he's a bit of an asshole too

[@Killerstar13]

@@HomekittyL2 Well, no, not a bit, Chris IS an asshole and Alec should've showed him that he isn't getting any of his shit, instead he let Chris to treat him like a nuisance and dismiss everything he says to the point of calling him naive, which is an equivalent of n-word in his world. Also, isn't that kinda what Chris was doing all the time? Do something malicious (and Alec was doing that with his comic towards Chris), but then pretend that you didn't mean it? I mean, yeah, he is not as bad as someone calling them at night to scream JULAAAAAAY, but still.

[@EnchaladaSanchez]

@@Killerstar13 it's just an opinion I understand your point but I would consider Christian a victim of circumstance the first episode illustrates my point well. I haven't finished the Playlist so I might change this.

[@Killerstar13]

@@EnchaladaSanchez Dude, everyone can be called that. I can be called that, you can be called that, Chris can be called that, but that's not excusing our behavior. Chris isn't mental to the point where he can't tell right from wrong, he knows when his actions are crossing the line, but he does it anyway. Watch till the housefire, that's where 90% of viewers lose the last bits of empathy for Chris.

[@mugdude6486]

I love how Chris critiques Alec and “digital art” as a whole saying it’s not authentic artwork. But he praises and watches many cartoons/anime which all utilize the same digital practices Alec uses to draw.

[@ToastGreeting]

How can you be sure those animes weren't animated with the TRUE and HONEST drawing on a piece of paper with (most likely) Crayola coloured markers

[@laggory]

tbh, they're not really aware of that, and no one ever told them about it tbh

[@fzxfzxfzx]

not to mention the flipnotes Chris did even more ironic is the fact that Chris' fully original flipnotes could be argued to be some of their best work or work where they could flesh it out even more

[@_addogg]

@@AM-yu9wy thats p much exactly how it would go down lmao

[@Impatientimpasto]

Yes that is correct but anime they draw traditionally and color the pages or frames digitally sometimes correcting the mistakes but mostly making anime is crappy because you have a week and it has to be rushed

[@JarvisBaileyVA]

Listening to Alec and Chris argue about the logistics of naming their sonichus and whether or not they are pokemon made me want to throw myself into a ravine.

[@thechildofaura1265]

Dude, fucking same

[@bigbeefy111]

Alec: “I have never said mine are Pokémon.” Yet you literally keep “chu” at the end of his name and color him like a Pokémon. You are also unwilling to admit that this is parody. I doubt your comic would exist without Sonichu dude. If it did, it wouldn’t have all the joking references to Sonichu. Sorry, I just think a lot of Alec’s arguments fall pretty flat to me.

[@versace6609]

@@bigbeefy111 bruh him saying it's not a parody is part of the troll

[@bigbeefy111]

@@versace6609 Correct, but lots of people in these comments are trying to act like it isn’t. This whole thing is a troll to me, but most around here are saying “Alec is the best” and “Alec wants the best for him”. All while citing his “valid points”.

[@iSilverGame]

"Chris attempted to hypnotize the trolls" He keeps surprising me

[@TwoFacedKid4]

I'm amazed at how Alec is so civil with Chris, even though he still feels like he's in on the joke a bit like previous trolls. I guess that's Minnesota nice for you.

[@fatrick9001]

Everything he is doing is obviously designed to mess with Chris, I'm kinda shocked some people who watch this are naive enough to not realize that, to the point of complimenting people who are only in it to laugh at the suffering of a mentally handicapped person.

[@InkyGhoul]

@@fatrick9001 Nobody's ignorant to him being troll, or naïve. They're saying that compared to other trolls he is genuinely polite.

[@simcho9377]

Andrew I don’t think that is his intention. I think he’s genuinely trying to help Chris in seeing the error of his ways. The original Asperchu was likely made to make fun of Chris, but these conversations lead me to believe that Alec is not really a troll, as much as someone who gives Chris the support he needs to improve himself.

[@isaac_759]

oh ya bod us Minnesotan's are nice, eh

[@mc_zittrer8793]

@@fatrick9001 I'm curious to think what his white knights would call legit 'help' in Chris's case. Help that doesn't involve getting him locked in a home. Say whatever you want about the trolls, but unlike Sarah McClerann, a 'troll' took him out for some drinks and karaoke, on multiple occasions. A 'troll' set him up on a blind date with a girl he might have had half a shot with if he wasn't an idiot manbaby that can't stop fondling whichever woman is unfortunate enough to have to sit next to him. A 'troll's' boyfriend helped him shoot several fun videos outside of his usual style and hung out with him just cause he seemed like a nice dude. A 'troll' actually helped him lose his virginity to a cute prostitute before he waited for the court to decide if he should go to jail or not. I'd also like to emphasize that none of these 'trolls' were PAID to tolerate this chimp. Can't say the same for his clique of high school 'gal-pals'. Even Michael Snyder mercifully entreated the judge to have these hard felony charges dropped to misdemeanors, even though utterly ruining Chris's life in court would have taught him a lesson about actions having consequences, and it just plain would have got that retard out of his hair. So please, illuminate us on how we can properly 'help' Chris, since neither abuse nor kindness has helped him grow or mature as a person, I'm dying to know what a bleeding heart such as yourself has to add to the situation.

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

Chris misunderstanding and misusing the term “biological clock” is one or my favorite CWCisms.

[@renn200]

Same

[@Thanoswillreturn]

Ett Gammalt Bergtroll him and Brett Keane are soulmates

[@badluckbrain5139]

His biological clock is running out, he won't be able to have kids soon

[@simonfisher4592]

@Riptydez that would be hard to do since most of his stuff has been lost and only remembered by a few.

[@RedTailShark100]

@@Thanoswillreturn Man I miss the Drunken Peasants

[@shadei1142]

Fun little thing I found: Chris Chan said “goddamn” and condemned Alec for being anti religious in the same sentence.

[@ToastGreeting]

at least he didn't say "damngod" thats worse

[@Funee]

Tbf that’s really not hypocritical or anything

[@jj-cz3rq]

??... what a stupid comment lol

[@VictorG621]

@Levi Morris That quote was originally meant so that you couldn't commit atrocities in the name of the lord. ie. The crusades. That being said, considering Chris seems to have the same conventional wisdom many other radical Christians do, it's very hypocritical on his part.

[@dontworry9540]

@@VictorG621 The crusades were not atrocities, stop trying to make them stand out in history for contemporary anomalies of their time to clueless people.

[@RedLetterDavid]

“He then attempts to play a harmonica” Sir, he murdered that harmonica.

[@Phoebe5448]

Key word being "attempts." Ugh every time Chris tries to sing or play an instrument aside from his plastic guitar, I cringe. It's pain.

[@RedLetterDavid]

@@Phoebe5448 agreed

[@Phoebe5448]

@M1ddleBroth3r no, I do. I cringe when Chris does anything.

[@scotcheggable]

@@Phoebe5448 I heard that 'ugh' in Chris Chan's voice

[@Phoebe5448]

@@scotcheggable ROFL thankfully I sound nothing like him. I'm aware I have a flat voice so I don't sing very much.

[@skittyskull]

Alec is probably the most likeable "troll" because it feels like he talks to chris as an adult and doesnt patronize him or talk to him like an infant. He just uses logic and actual treats chris on a pretty respectful level.

[@clydecash5659]

How is that trolling?

[@NutterButter774]

​@@clydecash5659He's still blatantly messing with Chris and doesn't take any of this seriously

[@ladycanada35]

there is no logic to this troll

[@strongwuk]

@@ladycanada35 As I've seen dozens of similar comments from you under various videos, why do you keep defending a rapist?

[@albedoweatheruno]

​@@ladycanada35hey just say you want to fuck chris, its ok babes. weirdo.

[@boranavc7706]

Christory should be taught in psychology classes. You can learn things from his life you can never from text books

[@anonb4632]

The flipside is that you can learn about bullying and pack mentality too.

[@TERMINXX101]

Believe it or not, this series is making me consider writing a Criminology/Psychology college thesis because of what you just said. This may be for entertainment purposes, but this is a serious study into the profile of a man who had lost BOTH sides of the nature vs. nurture debate.

[@TheeKittyPie]

Tbh yeah. Importantance of proper child rearing, internet safety, trends, early internet history, mon mentality, art and art parodies, there’s so much to explore

[@motivated7203]

@Potato King I wrote a paper on Chris in my senior year psychology class in high school. Best paper I ever wrote

[@FatallyParasocial]

Honestly I want to write a book about him and make it from his POV, from him being sheltered to him slowly losing his grip on reality.

[@shiruotakuno28]

Chris' self-destructive patterns are intriguingly disturbing to witness. When he gets insulted and gaslighted, he does whatever they say, but when someone tries to converse rationally with him as an equal in an attempt to help, he only pushes them away and ignores them. On top of that, he blames his problems on everyone else except himself so that he has no reason to improve. He really signed away control over his own life.

[@turbovirgin_]

Chris seems to be a narcissist, since he always sees others' work and ideas as inferior to his own, which explains why he never listens to people with good intentions and blames all his problems on outside influences. But he also seems to be very emotionally immature due to his arrested development, which makes it hard for him to push back when he realizes he's being bullied by the older kids. He's more likely to make a change if you verbally abuse him than if you ask nicely. This perfect storm is compounded by the fact the trolls are Chris's only friends, so even when they make his life hell, he just keeps going back to them because he can't get social interaction anywhere else. Before you call that vile, remember what he did with his real friends. At the end of the day, Chris doesn't need a stern talking-to, or a good humbling, or for someone to get through to him. He needs a handler and a structured environment. If his parents didn't shelter and coddle him, he might have learned to live on his own and be a productive member of society, but that ship sailed a long time ago. That's my amateur psychoanalysis done with, I'll take my degree now please

[@anonymoussaga8723]

That he only responds to being insulted and gaslighted really says it all about his upbringing.

[@anxietyfox4322]

@@turbovirgin_ Best I can do is an upvote, but I think you're on to something. It's probably a combination of being.. a little behind his age in mental development.. and narcissism, which I suppose is partially from his upbringing being basically enabling his worst traits, and just innate inability to understand other people. He honestly thinks sonichu is the most important invention of all mankind, so naturally everything else is beneath it, and by proxy his skills at creating art are unsurpassed or else he couldn't have created sonichu. The scariest thing about Chris is how they have so many layers of crazy that you can dig up a number of contributing factors to everything he says, does, or thinks. I honestly think the worst of all them though is just his limited intelligence, he clearly has no understanding of the world beyond the most basic, child-like understanding. If only he wasn't so limited in his understanding and ability to learn new things, he might have even overcome some of his issues and learn what kind of actions lead to him being in trouble. It wouldn't fix him, but it could give him the tools to at least try. As it is, there's no way for him to really overcome narcissism or any of the other mental problems he has, because he doesn't know how and mostly doesn't see anything wrong with how he thinks and behaves. Even as he continues the hoist himself by his own petard, he'll never understand why. He really is the perfect storm of everything that can go wrong in a persons mind.

[@FlyingHeatball]

@@turbovirgin_ as a current psychology student I would say your analysis is very on point

[@RubberDucky80]

Maybe it's just me, but I am getting so sick of people overusing and abusing the term "narcissist", as user Turbo Virgin accuses CWC. Who knows if Chris is a narcissist or not, but it's almost a trend now to say someone has NPD when they have any type of shitty behavior that upsets you. The thing is, if you look up information regarding narcissism (or NPD), it's listed as a RARE condition (this is info for the USA). This means less than 200,000 cases yearly. People nowadays are calling everyone a narcissist, and sometimes they don't even know what that really means! This is not meant towards Turbo Virgin BTW, as Chris DOES actually show signs of NPD, but even with that I would not assume he has it since we know he is autistic and has other health issues as well (so these could be the conditions that are causing/worsening some of the issues). I just wish more people would actually take a moment to look up the definition of the word before they go throwing it around every time someone tells a lie and annoys them lol. They would also then see how rare it is. There are many other conditions that mimic the same symptoms as NPD, and there's also the (huge) possibility that the individual has nothing technically wrong with them and are just an ahole! NPD is a serious condition but the numbers of sufferers is nowhere near what people seem to think, and a lot of them seriously struggle with the symptoms ... They are not all out here acting proud of it and hashtagging it or bragging. Instead many have their lives turned upside down and can't stand how they are because of NPD.

[@grandview899]

"Okay but it looks crappy compared to mine. Even my mother agrees." My fucking sides

[@LudiusQuassas]

I literally thought that was an abriged quote or something along those lines. When he said it word for word... that was priceless.

[@psychonautmaddy7409]

"My mom thinks I'm cool."

[@Zedsdead83]

@@psychonautmaddy7409his mom thinks he was the best lover she ever had also. Gave her better duck than any of her past lovers.

[@psychonautmaddy7409]

@Zedsdead83 Well, according to Chris anyway

[@Zedsdead83]

@@psychonautmaddy7409 very very unreliable source😂

[@Reionder]

I'm certain that Chris watched that "Yvan eht nioj" episode of the simpsons and used that as inspiration for that "uhcrepsa etah" video

[@themarkiscookin]

Most likely

[@peterbruin5154]

Nearly everything he does is traced back to popular shows. Quite sad

[@tumulovermelho93]

niooooj

[@ravensflockmate]

Yaloooooooj

[@thomasoates3003]

And in the process, he completely missed the joke in the episode that putting a backwards message in an advert and expecting people to reassemble it in the right order is ludicrous.

[@MI3am]

Alec's calls are like some type of professional writers room meeting between colleagues and I'm here for it .

[@kiasmidt7678]

And one of them is a fussy mercurial type who won't compromise on his vision

[@ladycanada35]

nothing professional about trolling

[@trillenglish]

Chris: “my biological clock is being fickle on me” Alec: “Maybe you can get an alarm clock” 😂

[@anonb4632]

Technically circadian rhythms are a type of biological clock.

[@retrorampager5373]

@The Best Part About Making Meatballs I’ve been pooping and shit.

[@anonymoussaga8723]

“My biological clock is being fickle on me” sounds like a 40ish year old trying to get pregnant.

[@DerWaidmann_]

I really don't even think of Alec as a troll, he's literally civil with Chris and tries to reason with him and talk over differences

[@tiaharukatrotta4881]

I'm sorry to call you out but... did you forget Alec created a character and produced a lot of works with it with the sole intention of mocking on Chris' character and Chris himself and now is using distorted logic to calmly gaslight Chris to accept his creation as something entirely different, entirely external and non-related and give his blessings to it?

[@tiaharukatrotta4881]

@@sporadiccreations6797 and thats the funny and sad part of it all, Chris should be able to clock it immediately, but Chris is unable to clock anything, it's amazing how unaware someone so articulate can be.

[@drkissinger1]

Thank God someone made this point. Everyone in the comments is like “Alec is just treating Chris with respect!” when pretending to treat Chris with respect to absurd ends is the joke of the troll.

[@holycrapitsvincent]

@@sporadiccreations6797 Ironic how all the two best trolls did was hold a mirror up to chris' face

[@johnathanrush4666]

The Alec calls are the best ones. Even when he's mad, he's not yelling at Chris, but still painstakingly pointing out each and every issue clearly and concisely. Best troll.

[@philipjfrys]

Such a breath of fresh air.

[@Gyaruwitch4011]

I love him so much

[@NightTimeDay]

Everyone praises liquid for being the kind and creative one, but Alec is the one who wins my heart

[@b1k2q34]

But why would he expect a mentally delayed autistic person to understand? Or even be able to converse on the same level?

[@FishingNotCatchin]

@@NightTimeDay everyone is ignorant in the beginning

[@walkingexistentaldread3079]

i like how alec was like, “your idea of a cartoon universe is implausible. cartoon characters don’t actually exist.” and chris’s reply is more or less “yeah but consider this: they do exist.”

[@dpiddy022]

a stunning rebuttal, tbh

[@englishgiraffe2124]

The Dimensional Merge was definitely going to happen sooner or later, the Idea Guys and the lack of interactions at BronyCon just gave Chris that little push

[@andrewhooper7603]

This is where the merge began. Exciting!

[@areallycoolhat5427]

@@andrewhooper7603 the seeds were planted when Patti died. The Dimensional Merge is Chris's refusal to accept reality on steroids

[@3Guys1Video]

Lol

[@lulucalliope713]

"He then attempts to play a harmonica." Me: Why though, why?

[@WingItMan217]

It’s Chris

[@bigblue344]

Random access humor.

[@dongiovanni-m3i]

Vivian Gee, aka Clyde, recommended it and the extra hand motions in the videos.

[@makjusufbegovic8186]

Lulu Calliope When does that happen in the video?

[@WakoDoodle]

*jontron* : WHY??!!

[@wednesdaygeckok.7899]

Chris thinking his pastor can do anything in the real world NEVER ceases to make me laugh

[@JMD501]

But it is an atheist book, he had to.

[@xXxzombieBCxXx]

I think it's funny he said his pastor didn't like asperchu but likes sonichu as if they've actually read it.

[@justinwilliams1127]

It shows how small his world is.

[@saturniidspectre]

Hey, RoachDoggJr!

[@skyty0]

"Antichrist Enhances World" is one of the best bits of Chris Chan lore that I never knew about

[@ReginaldAnteel]

I wonder how many takes it took Geno to read that out without laughing.

[@Luckyfoxoval78]

I feel that sicking your dead dog on someone in their dreams is like a new low lol

[@clanofclams2720]

*_d u g l a t h_*

[@king_big_pp]

Finally getting to my favorite story arc. I know a lot of people love the Liquid saga and I understand why. But Alec is a different level. He's just... a dude. Speaking to Chris with some respect and treating him like an adult. And that in and of itself is devastating to him.

[@neorothschild]

@Dorothy Zbornak finally someone who sees how vile the liquid saga was

[@MrFusion]

@UC8LfHb9ppGvU36yaKiIohaQ I mean, Liquid on his own was pretty tame and pretty funny in a fucked up way. The shit with Kacey was not cool at all, she's a piece of shit.

[@thegoblinking.]

@Dorothy Zbornak nah man, liquid wasnt as bad as trolls like blue spike. There's tiers to thier badness and i wouldn't put liquid in the same tier as a lot of the other trolls

[@tahjaugust]

@@neorothschild i liked liquid himself but the saga sucked. fuck kacey

[@alucard6919]

Chris has the mind of a child (if you ignore all his hentai art). He thinks his make believe world is real.

[@RTRyles]

That ending… The reveal that Chris thinks the word of CWCville and it’s characters are real, the Geno ending the episode on that piano stating “As Chris has said before, he is young at heart.” Literal chills. It’s so profound to me because Chris had always used “young at heart” as a defense. And the phrase being used in this sense come as a declaration of Chris’ naivety.

[@Phoebe5448]

Its also an ominous nod and hint about how truly delusional Chris is. Imo he definitely has some kind of narcissism going on. Especially nowadays.

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

This shit is up there with the SB nation dorktown documentaries in terms of storytelling

[@luckygardenfrog]

Alec: but I digress *the start of Chris using that for every Twitter tweet*

[@luckygardenfrog]

WHO FRAMED ROGGER RABBIT WAS THE START OF THE DIMENSIONAL MERGE

[@thekidsdontrespectme6338]

Finally someone with some insight to the cosmos

[@Jfam11638]

Asperchu is the perfect example of how irony is a completely foreign concept to Chris

[@PandaBearsX3]

My obsession over him has increased so much since you started remastering these, I listen to them while I’m working, I can’t escape it Geno I’m stuck in a loop watching these over and over again what have you done to me,

[@agooddaytorespawn57]

This is Netflix's the bundy tapes level of obsession and interest tho

[@agooddaytorespawn57]

@Livermind's rooms the fascination with chris chan is based in watching someone's sanity just devolve over decades. We want to know why he's p much clinically insane, we have a built in need to know why with things, and that's what's driving us to even repeat watching these videos so we find out where this poor creature's modern psychoses started

[@agooddaytorespawn57]

@Livermind's rooms the true horror of chris chan's story is like watching Chernobyl blow up in slow motion. While it's happening, you're trying to rationalise things that can't be conventionally rationalised until you look into the background, the perceptions of other people, and the chain of events that led to the mess, and finally the damning consequences for chris as a person

[@davidmason3277]

I work at night and this is all I watch

[@BadgeGrabber]

I listen to these when I work too bro lol

[@Tabmaster94]

16:52 I think the line of "No, actually, uh, I read further in the book and Dixie Chu dumped his ass" is the funniest thing I've heard Chris say in this entire series so far

[@LogisticPeach]

The fact that he said that to the creator of the comic is even funnier

[@spencerpeterson3796]

I love how calm and level-headed Alec is in the phone calls with Chris. Every argument Chris has about something Alec is doing in Asperchu, Alec immediately has a counter point, as well as pointing out Chris's own hypocrisy.

[@lumen8341]

you say this like it's hard :/ alec is way more interested in hearing himself yammer on than he is in getting any kind of "gotcha" moment out of chris honestly

[@spencerpeterson3796]

@@lumen8341 Oh yeah, it's easy to counter Chris. What I meant was that, unlike other people who eventually start to yell at Chris or demean him, Alec stays cool and gives his retort.

[@youdonegoofed]

@@lumen8341 "alec is way more interested in hearing himself yammer on" He was trying to have a civil conversation with Chris, what are you even talking about? Are you afraid of long sentences or something?

[@DodgyDaveGTX]

Yeah, props to Alec as he kept his calm and he attempted to reason with Chris no different than the sort of perfectly rational adult-to-adult interaction Chris should - at best - consider himself lucky to expect when living and working in the real world. And I say that loosely because even the most level-headed, patient & polite human being could only sustain such composure for so long before Chris would inevitably drag any & every conversation down to the level of a self-entitled, spoilt child. Can you imagine working with someone like that in a job setting who would just simply groan and sigh any time you made even the slightest attempt at countering his endless tirade of bullshit, with nothing but the absolute utmost patience, consideration (even for someone with extreme learning difficulties _far_ more challenging than Chris'), with a perfectly reasonable and logical request or suggestion... for the fifth time? The sighing, in particular, would require some steel-grade frustration-threshold when he does it in that incredibly condescending tone... that comes across like - "No. Fuck your logic, you're too slow-in-the-mind & obviously don't understand because _I'M_ *HIGH FUCKING FUCTIONING* AUTISTIC"

[@unpopularopinions7407]

Spencer Peterson Agreed. It’s much more entertaining to watch Chris dig his own hole as opposed to just straight-up getting bullied

[@tort4438]

Chris is so mad about Alec lighting him on fire, because Chris thought it was real and happening

[@michaelbugner7011]

And on this episode, we discovered that Chris is 100% batshit crazy.

[@sekhyhybrid6701]

@@michaelbugner7011 Shouldn't this be clear to you already since the Megan Saga?

[@michaelbugner7011]

@@sekhyhybrid6701 fair point. But I mean, like completely delusion, can't tell reality from fantasy. He apparently also hallucinates. A few weeks ago he said someone finally saw magi Chan standing next to him.

[@8milestudio]

Tort this was the funniest fucking comment I’ve read

[@Onewingerdraven]

@@michaelbugner7011 he's also a pathological liar so...

[@ClassicArtCollector]

This anime takes a dark turn very soon.

[@Green-Raccoon777]

And it never turns back...

[@michaelstrong5383]

Wait until we get to the Song for Jackie bit. Just when you thought the anime's protagonist couldn't get any more unlikable and offensive...

[@blackglasses356]

well we alredy had a pretty dark arc with Julay saga

[@Green-Raccoon777]

@@blackglasses356 But the Alec calls were pretty much the point of no return.

[@ClassicArtCollector]

@@blackglasses356 when the Lumber Jack dies, it becomes a tragedy

[@notme57812]

I think Alec's calls shine an interesting light on the mind of chris. He isn't unaware. He has self awareness. He just chooses to ignore when something disagrees with his world view

[@Hellscap3]

The thing I feel so many people overlook in this saga tbh is chris' obvious lying and habit to twist the story of his life however he wants it to be told. Megan went from a girl he abused who finally cut off friendship n put her foot down to implying she "lead him on" and is the original one he claims sent trolls after him. Dispite her legit having a bf most the time they talked n legit told him shed never date him well before that lol. He doesnt want to change his views because he likes lies more then reality. The world where he's a famous comic creator that everyone loves and not some creep that reeks of axe and never showering. He is selfish n entitled, he's ungrateful to anyone truely nice to him like when someone sent him a Playstation n he complained it was the cheapest model the plain black one or somethin. Like the entitlment and god complex is wild. He even aparently signs his jail letters with jesus now.

[@pinkfloydguy7781]

Yeah, it’s downright philosophical. I mean, don’t we as social creatures all do this to some degree? The fucked up mind of Chris Chan is just a funhouse mirror that shows us all of the deepest human psychological problems. We all have confirmation bias, the best we can do is try to be aware of it and confront it… we all want to escape into some sort of fantasy. We constantly run away from fear and pain and run toward pleasure and wish fulfillment. Chris’s firm belief in the real existence of fictional characters rings true to the worst trends of religion - when religion is a dogma about how the world should be, rather than a humbling acceptance of how the world is.

[@anotherseoulnative8781]

That ending was ominous as hell knowing what he’s talking about now days

[@partIycIoudyskies]

wait chris got his universe mentality from who frames roger rabbit..... youre joking .... right ... ?

[@kemosabe2964]

i mean thats a very chris chan thing to do he got his name by the bear conductor his characters are all properties made by someone else most of the shit he did do get girls like the attraction sign or the red string of love are from anime he watched

[@kemosabe2964]

@lulzmoose oh im sorry about that i just meant the red string of love the attraction sign isnt really from anything but he probably had the idea from watching cartoons that had characters holding a sign up with the things written on them that they want atleast thats my speculation about it

[@uzaiyaro]

“Still looks crappy compared to mine.” Wow, delusions of grandeur much? Mini-rant that no one cares about... Now I’m not an artist, but people do call me a professional photographer (god knows why), and I use a tablet for touch-ups. I also edit my photos to ensure that they look as good as they can for either myself, the person I am shooting for, or both. If I didn’t manipulate my photos, a lot more of them would look shitty and underdone. There’s something to be said about getting it right the first time and doing as little post processing as possible, and I do agree with this, but it only gets you so far. Hand drawn vs. digital art is a big topic, but Chris misses the point that Alec knocks out of the park. We’re all artists. We’re all in this together. We just have different means of achieving the same goal. You can’t dump on a traditional artist because you’re a digital artist or vice versa, because we’re both doing the same thing, really, drawing because we want to create.

[@Hu-kun]

As an artist myself, this did tick me off a bit with how pompous Chris is displaying when talking about it to Alec hhhhhh

[@sketchyjulia]

Hu-kun same

[@NegaGandhi]

As a graphic designer, in those moments Chris makes me want to facedesk.

[@MichaelTurner856]

@@NegaGandhi facedesk lamao

[@sketchyjulia]

AT Productions especially My Little Pony, which is animated in Flash

[@bootsdotexe]

"What if Asperchu created you?" that one sentence gave me whiplash and took me out

[@HerrDeutschBlood]

So I guess _Who framed Roger Rabbit?_ is partial to blame for Chris into thinking that real people and cartoon characters can co-exist in the same world.

[@tumulovermelho93]

I wonder if Chris watched Toy Story and thought Officer Nasty was a living being.

[@TDWTB]

@@tumulovermelho93 to be honest that’s be pretty horrific.

[@shaolinv8122]

"There is no, y'know like, alternate cartoon world in reality,, ," 'You obviously are naive about that, cause youre not understanding the possibility of that universe actually existing' Jesus christ im getting Dimensional merge whiplash

[@MrGrimlock1]

Those where the seeds blooming in the past that forged the dense clusterfuck that is Chris' mind on these days

[@BrawlerGamma]

The worst part is I almost wanted to agree with Chris slightly, up until he started claiming the fictional world was *literally* real. But I mean the idea that the author should generally treat the world they create as "real" in terms of, you know, making sure that things follow some kind of logic, and don't shatter one's willing suspension of disbelief. My stance is somewhere in the middle of those two on that specific portion of the conversation.

[@nendymion]

@@BrawlerGamma I was actually siding with Chris on this particular argument. Although he really should have framed the Roger Rabbit bit as a metaphor and not just flat out call it real. Nor should he have a name change is exactly what the character wanted since he's not the creator of that character, unless he's basing it off of what the character would actually think and do based off of what can be derived from the comics themselves. Which by the looks of things, isn't something he is capable of discerning.

[@SteveRudzinski]

@loliquatsch An infinite number of universes doesn't meant literally every possibility definitely exists. Pi is an infinitely long number, but it never becomes the number 4.

[@thecure2685]

@loliquatsch That's not true at all. Natural numbers and real numbers are both infinite but natural numbers have less elements overall (a lesser order of magnitude of inifinity we could say, hoping no math major gonna chase me down). Infinity doesn't mean everything is allowed but that are allowed an infinite amount of things in those restrictions.

[@aldantler]

Chris's violent side sure has surfaced during this era.

[@cheekloins4126]

I’d hate to be that fucking cat man

[@knifewife4390]

“Chris gets incredibly angry over himself being in a comic without his consent but at no point realizes that’s what he did to pretty much every single person in his life” that’s gotta be on someone’s bingo card, right?

[@DarkLiger]

Why does Chris always invoke the name of his pastor? He did with the owner of the Game Place, he did with some of the other trolls and he did it with Alec Leary. Does Chris realize that his pastor has absolutely no authority outside of the parish?

[@thebog11]

A lot of Christians believe that their pastor has a direct line to God, it's a big reason why a lot of them go to church. It's not a belief that's limited to Chris by any means

[@roan2288]

@@thebog11 This is what being a protestant does to a man.

[@aunthaggis8856]

The same reason he said “My mother thinks your art sucks”. They are some sort of authority figure in his life that agree with him.

[@kajura8684]

@@roan2288 imagine not being protestant lmao

[@TDWTB]

I honestly believe that Bob and Barb never had a conversation with Chris about fiction. It is so incredibly apparent that Chris has no idea of the difference between real life and fantasy. It is absolutely insane to me that a grown man would actively go out of his way to believe his own creations had their own mind. This is why he believed in Santa for such a long time, he had no idea that Santa wasn’t real. That’s why he reacted the way he did when liquid Chris came into the picture. He completely broke down, threw fits, and tantrums all because in the cartoons if there’s another version of you one is crazy evil and one is a good guy. In his mind he was a good guy so it made sense for the other one to be evil. In all honesty Chris is by far the evil one. He manipulates, lies, Threatens violence, murder, and bullies people into getting what he wants. When he doesn’t he says “I’m sorry” in hopes that people will no longer be mad at him but in reality they’re feelings are still real. Saturday morning cartoons completely destroyed what little grasp of reality he had. It also didn’t help that his parents really shouldn’t of had children in their old age. Even then the fact that they were clearly baby and Chris shows that they had no idea what they were really doing. If my son told me “hey dad I want to have a love quest” I would sit him down and explain how that is really not how that works and life will just give you what it gives you and you’re just gonna have to roll with it. Instead his parents probably instilled in him that the world owed him everything because he was young, autistic, and a very special boy. This is all a big reason why I want to write a biography on him. Just so I can have them all sit around the dinner table at each of them just got to Chris’s in ability to understand that he’s talking to trolls. With Bob and Barb clear learning from the experience and Chris never truly understanding. They understood what was going on but Chris never did in my mind they were not trying to ignore Chris it was Chris trying to ignore his parents. They were trying to help him to leave the Internet.

[@bladeedgestudios]

You’ll make a really good parent

[@superba6]

This is one of the best comments I've seen on this series.

[@philipjfrys]

This is such a good comment.

[@wayatvideos2142]

Some of what Chris said in this video makes total sense; he just didn’t know how to articulate himself . When he addressed Asperchu having behavior outside the control of the creator is no different then when fans of a story or show argue about how realistic a character’s behavior is; we implicitly impose our logic into the craft with or without offense to the creator. Also, fictional characters do exist in reality on a certain level, otherwise these hypothetical and speculative conversations concerning who these characters are could not be undertaken. Just because we misunderstand Chris’s dialogue concerning these concepts do not in itself invalidate the concepts. Now of course, later on Chris gets worse. But at this point in the series, I was able to follow Chris’s logic just fine.

[@domdicenso1656]

Winning that contest at a young age must have fortified that sense of entitlement and the "something for nothing" attitude. Witch in turn strengthens his narcissism and delusions of grandeur.

[@FourDozenEggs]

The Liquid Chris saga and the Alec Benson Leary calls are my favorite moments in Christory. The Liquid Chris saga was fun to watch and it led to some of the most famous and hilarious quotes from Chris. Alecs phone calls revealed a lot about Chris' mind, even showing that he believed that cartoon characters existed long before the Dimensional Merge. And unlike trolls like Bluespike, they were very tame with their trolling methods.

[@Lucy_Ford]

Bluespike- Trolling you hide any remote even morbid interest in. Alec- Trolling you share with friends.

[@stevenpaini5840]

I think the Liquid Chris saga is funny in the fact that it’s so outlandish while the Alec Benson Leary is funny in the fact that it’s so tame. Such a contrast of trolling, going from Chris thinking someone was stealing his identity (and getting away with it) while constantly being a better Chris to Chris getting mad over a parody comic which isn’t doing anything bad.

[@H-cranky]

@@stevenpaini5840 liquid chris saga was funny until kacey got involved

[@daniwolfplayz3599]

alec was barely even a troll in the first place

[@Hats502]

Liquid Chris was great up until Kacey, she ruined it. Liquid should have ended it when he said he posted his “last video” after the sing star competition

[@Annausagi2]

I really appreciate that 'Asperchu' was both a great parody of Chris and Sonichu, AND the story was legit well-written/made. (The pages of Asperchu's dragged-out torment at pulling weeds in the HOT, HOT SUN still tickles my funny-bone a lot.)

[@KitsDJ]

This man is a very interesting creature. Bless the fact that we're actually progressing past 2009...

[@sanbanapoy]

Yeah how many parts was 2009 anyways??

[@TheCamSays]

It only gets weirder from here.

[@TheCamSays]

•leanbox-skies • 15 parts believe it or not.

[@KitsDJ]

@@TheCamSays I'm both very prepared and unprepared at the same time.

[@acewillingham]

@@TheCamSays 15 parts seems like it was a long one especially it's being 2009 which was his most eventful year in his life and the fact that we're now in the year 2010 and the events that took place in that year with him goes to show you that this guy is one of the most documented people on the internet I have never seen a certain individual being documented as much as he has been I find it very interesting.

[@wilfordbrimley3319]

36:28 "Okay but it looks crappy compared to mine. Even my mother agrees." Chris Chan is so outrageously absurd that nowadays I'd have assumed he was just a troll.

[@king_big_pp]

That's the kind of thing I say to friends if I'm doing a bit, making a joke or whatever. The fact that Chris brought it up 100% seriously is baffling.

[@PresidentNathan]

I like how Chris immediately says the conversation is "pointless" as soon as Alec points out that he can't copyright Sonichu

[@tiaharukatrotta4881]

I think Chris was smart enough to realize on that very moment that Alec would not be shied away with a tantrum or disarmed with a crocodile demonstration of pathetic remorse like the others, but on the contrary keep pursuing the subjects he wanted to talk about, so he tried a last desperate attempt to keep leverage and negotiate the ads he wanted modified before he lost all the grip on the conversation - thing he saw was happenig too fast lol

[@SpewChoob]

Asperchu is what Bob asked Chris to do with Sonichu a few episodes ago. A champion for autism who overcomes his condition to do well, etc.

[@Lethe8737]

Chris: "Let's just compromise by doing exactly what I want."

[@theallknowingsause8940]

I love how Chris gets all upset about swearing in the Asperchu comics but in his comics he literally draws incredibly graphic sex scenes

[@aoki6332]

flashback to the comic of him shooting a guy and kinapping a girl

[@sekinnnnn1121]

but he sensors them with bananas for penises and oranges for vaginas!!!

[@misterkyler]

I like how every time someone tells Chris Sonichu is two copyrighted characters mixed together; he ignores them, tries to change the subject or goes "hmm, yeah"

[@skivvy3565]

I like how Chris is so wrapped up in his delusions, he just gets evasive and sighs whenever one of his hypocrisies are pointed out to him, and his double standards are only applicable to him and everyone else is in the wrong for doing the Exact Same Thing

[@ladycanada35]

all humans do this when challenged (America is a perfect example of this)

[@slav1467]

@@ladycanada35 Canadians especially so.

[@freddyfazbearboyfriend]

​@@ladycanada35 Canada is in America btw

[@ladycanada35]

@@freddyfazbearboyfriend only if you were educated in America

[@IllIlllI]

One of the most terrifying episodes. I’m getting serious goosebumps when Chris talks about his characters like causal friends

[@tiaharukatrotta4881]

nah, this is the smallest of Chris' quirks. Most authors have a troubled relationship with their characters and their works in general. In much bigger numbers and with much crazier levels of problems non-creator people are prone to consider.

[@mekabare]

Nah that's pretty common with young artists who create their own characters, especially on the autistic spectrum. I think about my own characters quite a lot, how much of myself as a person is in them. Sometimes they feel "real", especially after developing them for so long. The difference is that healthy people know they're not real people.

[@IllIlllI]

Not saying it’s something bad. The way it’s presented here gives me the chills though. I was always intrigued by the fine line between fate and free will, geno series is like a pool of self reflection. Geno, treating Christine’s unhealthy but content rich life/project in a healthy but monoton way to allow us to experience, what is “Chris Chan”

[@SerJateReino]

Yes it was pretty creepy when he for the first time (at least first time that is shown in this series) brought out in like a semi casual conversation his idea about comic universes and such because that's like what modern jail CWC seems to ramble about mostly in her letters

[@zgSH4DOW]

The second half got surprisingly philosophical

[@Zap_Rowsdower]

31:25 If there was a university course being taught on Chris Chan, this is the point where the professor would pause the video to say, “Remember that, it’s going to be important later.”

[@HomekittyL2]

It's like one of the many depressing foreshadowing moments in Chris' life. Like when Bob gave him that letter when he was born saying that he hoped Chris would treasure his father's possessions and wouldn't squander or get rid of them.

[@giulyblaziken268]

Hol' up I still haven't finished the series, what does it mean? Is he actually going to believe in parallel dimensions or something?...

[@aboundingvampirekiller2048]

Honestly thinking of writing an Essay on Chris Chan so yeah.... Maybe I'll get Extra Credit.

[@ginge641]

@@giulyblaziken268 Me neither. This shit got me worried.

[@ultimateinternetman4335]

@@aboundingvampirekiller2048 Chris Chan is both the best and worst thing to write an essay on

[@juankgonzalez6230]

I can't believe Chris was already this delusional at such an early stage. Sonichu truly feels like a devil who's taken hold of his every thought and action, dragging him further down and down. Alec is becoming my favourite troll, too. He's doing everything that Liquid should've done on those phonecalls. Excellent control over the conversation, never being mean and rather just breaking Chris' logic piece by piece. Love it

[@herrinderpus1445]

Chris: I wouldn't do blood in gore that's just gross Also Chris: *makes blood and gore filled execution scene*

[@BazTheStoryteller]

You just side with Alec in the phone conversations. Chris literally thinks he's the greatest artist in the world. If a professional art critic read Sonichu, he or she would die laughing.

[@gwendolynstata3775]

Down the Rabbit Hole did a live reading of Sonichu with his graphic artist sister-in-law. It was pretty good.

[@reloadpsi]

@@gwendolynstata3775 I was about to say that! She admitted that the art style was less important than the presentation, but was rather critical of the latter anyway.

[@famouslastwords0791HR]

Whay angers me is how Chris insists he's copyrighted his rip off characters. They're not original in the first place.

[@Crade1]

To be honest, the comic is actually really good in parts, I have drawn similar stuff.. When I was 8. For the ability of an 8 year old or an extremely autistic, socially retarded man with the mind of a child, it's actually fine. Besides the fucked up shit that happens in sonichu and the adult themes that get explored in such a cringy way because Chris is a child trapped in an adults body, If my kid would be so involved in drawing his comic books, I would be proud of him. Chris is not a normal person, and his art reflects his actual state of mind. As hilarious as these drawings look in the context of the real world, I find it hard to mock them, since it's easily the most worthwhile thing Chris has ever done in his life.

[@CMan-x7k]

Crade That and go to college.

[@YungM.D.]

19:00 This conversation was refreshing because Chris’ comics had become so meta and bizarre that I forgot that Sonichu was even supposed to be related to Sonic or Pokémon.

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

That sigh that Chris does is an outward expression he understands he is caught in one of his lies but can't figure out a way to lie his way out of it.

[@dumqunt8649]

The fact that all these thumbnails have become such a blur just shows how long chirs has been keeping up the same cycle for so long. No wonder he(she?) went insane

[@brandonchavez9924]

He. Don’t feed his delusions.

[@angrychameleon5664]

He. I'm willing to bet a disgusting amount of money that he got the idea after realizing the LGBT are becoming a protected class and maybe - just MAYBE - if he boarded that bandwagon too, trolling him would finally be illegal or something.

[@themudpit621]

If Chris gives she/her pronouns (which she does) it's rude not to use them. We don't get to say who's trans and who isn't. People get to decide that for themselves, and it's not up to us to call it a delusion, or gatekeep who is the 'real' deal and who isn't. Just call people what they ask you to call them, simple.

[@skydiamsteam6005]

The Mudpit Not with Chris lol, he does it for attention

[@themudpit621]

@Drakon590 Oh no!! The W slur!! Never heard that before. How will I sleep tonight??

[@DancesWithBaglez]

"The spirit of Patty will have his soul!" **Fetch me their souls!**

[@thomasl1061]

*Max Ammo!*

[@jackbartle8608]

LETS PLAY FETCH THE GRENADE!

[@kenny6772]

God tier reference

[@adrianpaul1985]

Fesh me zer souls

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

**Whistle, whistle** Hey, boy! You want a TREAT!? Ooh-rah!

[@Dragynn999]

The whole part around 30:00 or so-... Is this the actual beginning of the Merge Arc? The moment when his delusion of a parallel world began to manifest?

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

Yes, a lot of Christorians trace it back to the Asperchu Saga. Some even earlier.

[@ranger12YX]

He supposedly 'talked' with Sonichu during the Mary Lee Walsh session which happened way earlier than this. Then again, that could have been just his childish play pretend like when young kids have imaginary friends instead of full blown madness we have now.