Can a Fuel Additive give you Better Fuel Economy? (with PROOF)

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ChrisFix

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@RellyOhBoy
@RellyOhBoy 8 жыл бұрын
106 mile drive with no radio?.......Brutal.
@splittheatom7599
@splittheatom7599 7 жыл бұрын
RellyOhBoy just the sound of 8 bald eagles!!!
@ras4782
@ras4782 6 жыл бұрын
RellyOhBoy he'll yeah
@matthewpreston543
@matthewpreston543 6 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah brother Your watching the cleetus McFarland... shit wrong area
@manoman0
@manoman0 6 жыл бұрын
Not here, 106 miles drive with radio.....Brutal.
@country__livin
@country__livin 6 жыл бұрын
Been there done that..
@Scientificexploration
@Scientificexploration 8 жыл бұрын
Tried in a Tesla, it broke my battery
@jamessagstetter3269
@jamessagstetter3269 8 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard I woke up my dog and she thought I was hurt and came over and started whining and licking me
@adamas_dragon
@adamas_dragon 8 жыл бұрын
LOL
@haithamh5081
@haithamh5081 8 жыл бұрын
+James Sagstetter lol
@detshala1036
@detshala1036 8 жыл бұрын
This was the best comment ive seen all day😂😂
@joshneiderburger8414
@joshneiderburger8414 7 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@cbr600rrturbo
@cbr600rrturbo 8 жыл бұрын
i have to say..I dig this channel
@spokehedz
@spokehedz 8 жыл бұрын
Wow. An honest car guy who doesn't believe in myths and legends, and actually does actual science. Newly subscribed, and looking forward to seeing more good stuff!
@thenobletaco4232
@thenobletaco4232 7 жыл бұрын
Alexander Borsi you should try watching Mighty Car Mods they do some pretty similar things
@bob8086
@bob8086 7 жыл бұрын
if ur looking for that mighty car mods is shit, half of the stuff they do is NOT factual in any way... engineering explained is a great youtuber similiar to chris. No BS
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 7 жыл бұрын
I agree - this is some of the best science I have seen on the 'net in years. I love the clear statement of what is being tested and especially the data gathering. I would have cast out the one outlier (especially since we are looking for what we can expect) and would have expressed the changes in percent instead of mpg because one mpg means a lot more in a Ram than in a Prius, but we have the data available to do just that. When we convert the data to percent, we see the second to the last (Big Guy Review) is also a bit of an outlier, at 14%. Probably the same effect Chris surmised - the injectors needed the cleaning. With just the one outlier removed the average change is +2%, with both dropped from the list the average change is still within one point.
@jonathanh871
@jonathanh871 7 жыл бұрын
Alexander Borsi well its Car Mods more than anything, this Chris is about catering to the average Joe
@matthewronsson
@matthewronsson 4 жыл бұрын
Good grief I hope none of you still think this is "science" by any stretch of the imagination. "Best science"? No wonder people fall hook, like and sinker for things like "man made global warming" and the current Plandemic. They see a show or a teleprompter reader on the News and think "OMG! We're in trouble! We'd better do something -anything- fast!!" Yeah, we're in trouble as evidence by the lack of reasoning found in this thread.
@tjwtrumpet
@tjwtrumpet 9 жыл бұрын
Chris, I've recently discovered your videos and all I can say is "WOW" and "THANK YOU!" I recently purchased a 2002 Honda Accord SE with 196K miles, and your vids have been very helpful with me fixing the few things that needed work on the car. I used to have a 1994 Saturn SC1/5-speed. Bought it new, and it was the best car I've ever had. Sadly it got totaled when I was the middle of a 3-car accident (234K miles on it). I am an easy driver, doing mostly highway miles in the LA area. Averaged 26,000 miles a year or so. My mileage would be anywhere between 27 & 32 in town, upwards of 37 mpg on a pure road trip. I would try different fuel cleaners, usually Gum-Out, adding it every 5,000 miles. Whether they really helped or not I never knew, but I figured what the hell, it's $5 - 7 bucks, what could it hurt? Anyway, about 15 years ago and with around 160K miles on the Saturn, I tried a fuel additive that I found in a WalMart that was made by (of all companies) Turtle Wax. I forget what it was called, but it was some fancy/exotic name, and cost about $10.00 Added to an empty tank. Filled up & got my usual close to 400 miles on a tank of gas. BUT...after running that one tank, my mileage increased tremendously! In town was now always over 30, and road trips were between 39 & 42 (my all-time high)!! Started using it every 5,000 miles. After running a tank of gas, the mileage would shoot back up to the high numbers. Told all my friends about it, and they got similar results. And suddenly, around 2004, it was no longer available. I contacted Turtle Wax (letters, email, phone), and never got an answer as to why it was off the market. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but who knows - maybe the oil companies bought it out & killed it... I wish I could remember the name of the product. And I wish it was back on the market. Thanks again for the great vids & all the best to you! Tim
@Left_coast_bullies
@Left_coast_bullies 6 жыл бұрын
Tjwtrumpet mystery fuel 50665 ultimate moto fuel treatment
@boxadmiral
@boxadmiral 6 жыл бұрын
Turtle Wax is far from dead - a family member of mine works in the company that owns them. I'll ask if they ever sold fuel additives and see what they say
@kevinsigue1207
@kevinsigue1207 5 жыл бұрын
Soooo what did they say?
@anti0918
@anti0918 9 жыл бұрын
Throw out the one obvious outlier, and you get an average of 0.48 increase in MPG.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 9 жыл бұрын
+anti0918 Discarding the obvious outliers at both extremes is exactly what should be done. If the improved mileage is due to cleaning injectors, that improvement should be sustained for some period of time thereafter with subsequent tankfuls not containing the additive. I think that those data would be interesting. My guess is that the small improvement in fuel economy will be promptly lost. Perhaps Chris can contact his testers and ask them whether improvement was sustained.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+anti0918 Thanks for sharing!
@kuhataparunks
@kuhataparunks 9 жыл бұрын
+Greg Snyder that's cool, what kind of job, financial analyst? Thanks for ur opinion
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 9 жыл бұрын
Greg Snyder I certainly don't think that Chris is trying to plug a specific product at all. He fully disclosed the Volvo figures and pointed out the deviation from others. He also repeated that he saw no benefit in his own car. So, if that's a commercial endorsement for his own profit, it's certainly a very unconvincing one. I sure wouldn't use the stuff in my car. Chris makes high quality videos that undoubtedly help many people save a lot of money. I, for one, have learned several things from them. He deserves our support.
@Eliminator963
@Eliminator963 9 жыл бұрын
+ChrisFix My Dad owns a Vette and it's shit to drive in Jersey traffic with it.
@MineTwine45
@MineTwine45 9 жыл бұрын
Finally a non-biased, real, scientific test. Great work, this is what makes people come to your channel.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+MineTwine45 Thanks a lot! That is the goal!
@MineTwine45
@MineTwine45 9 жыл бұрын
+ChrisFix Keep up the good work man. Love your videos, you've taught me a lot!
@Beef_jerky_official
@Beef_jerky_official Жыл бұрын
@@chrisfix I’m sorry but your supposed to do it for multiple fill ups 😭 Then it helps the mpg My 03 eclipse went from 26mpg to 30mpg
@frederickburns1739
@frederickburns1739 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, Fred here I ran MAXX Fuel Supplement Company long before I saw your Honda dyno test video. My background is CAT, CUMMINGS, DETROIT, MACK AND CASE. Have certificates for two of the above mentioned. I have about forty years of experience, retired now. I have three bucket of bolts I've used MAXX in; a 93 Concorde 3.5 v6, a 96 F250 5.0 v8 and 08 LIBERTY 3.7 V6 . They all achieved minimal increase in mileage and since all three are 125,000 + miles it seemed to me it breathed a little new life in the old buckets!!! Another thing I find interesting is everybody talks about HORSEPOWER when in actuality TORQUE is what does the WORK!!! For the novice torque is what moves a car, train or ship!!
@andrewesquivel
@andrewesquivel 8 жыл бұрын
man, your Corvette gets better fuel economy than my Outlander 😕
@velvanae
@velvanae 8 жыл бұрын
aerodynamics and weight is a big part of that, then you add HP to weight ratio.
@thenobletaco4232
@thenobletaco4232 7 жыл бұрын
andrewesquivel he gets better mileage than my moms prius
@nicholashutter1865
@nicholashutter1865 7 жыл бұрын
Lol. It's funny because my car doesn't and I have a 94 LT1 Torch Red Corvette. I get 15 mpgs.
@cocomoejoe
@cocomoejoe 7 жыл бұрын
better than my foxbody haha
@xkuqgamingtutorial2224
@xkuqgamingtutorial2224 7 жыл бұрын
Nick Hutter daing my 2007 tundra gets 14 mpg
@cuberafro123
@cuberafro123 4 жыл бұрын
“HEY GUYS, CHRIS FIX HERE”. First super enthusiastic intro ... beginning of an era :’ )
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 4 жыл бұрын
The beginning of the modern day ChrisFix :p
@JSchrumm
@JSchrumm 9 жыл бұрын
This test showed that you take good care of your corvette.
@codypendency9482
@codypendency9482 7 жыл бұрын
Then there's streetspeed717
@pinoyairGking22
@pinoyairGking22 3 жыл бұрын
@@codypendency9482 k
@hookemups6710
@hookemups6710 9 жыл бұрын
I tried this. I only used one bottle of additive in an empty fuel tank and got from Iceland to Antarctica. Highly recommended.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+Hookemups lol
@jhonjohnjonjondoe5011
@jhonjohnjonjondoe5011 7 жыл бұрын
he crashed on a cruise ship! well done sir, well done.
@ivanfrizky2514
@ivanfrizky2514 7 жыл бұрын
Mpokerdonk XDDD
@alecte_
@alecte_ 6 жыл бұрын
Hookemups 😂😂
@jaswik2023
@jaswik2023 6 жыл бұрын
Hookemups you crashed onto a iceberg well done dude
@mariospantouvanos4645
@mariospantouvanos4645 9 жыл бұрын
26 mpg with a vette is quite impressive.
@DontStopReeling
@DontStopReeling 9 жыл бұрын
+Marios Pantouvanos i avg'd 27 mpg with the ac on cruising at 85 in my e36 325is, it all depends on the gearing and nothing more
@kuhataparunks
@kuhataparunks 9 жыл бұрын
That was because he was on the highway, if in Los Angeles traffic you will get much less
@DontStopReeling
@DontStopReeling 9 жыл бұрын
kuhataparunks you gotta cruise at like 55 to get that mileage in a vette, I m sure the rear end ratio is higher than a 3.15
@mariospantouvanos4645
@mariospantouvanos4645 9 жыл бұрын
teh vee teh vee With my 05 ford focus C-max I got 36.5 mpg us @75 mph with ac on and five people in the car, 200 lbs of luggage and a bike on the rack. My engine is a bone stock 1.8 liter Duretec HE.
@DontStopReeling
@DontStopReeling 9 жыл бұрын
Marios Pantouvanos I could get better in a geo metro, my car has a 2.5 liter m50b25nv.
@adibee88
@adibee88 4 жыл бұрын
You really did a lot of work to provide us accurate research data! Thank You So MUCH for this hard work! 🙏🏽
@jessehernandez5043
@jessehernandez5043 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure engine condition, age, and build play great factors in how much improvement was seen. a clean engine wouldn't benefit as much as an engine that could use some cleaning. great video thanks for putting this all together. I use the Lucas Complete Fuel System Cleaner in my truck. probably because I'm ocd but would love to see if their product makes a difference as well!
@benmoro
@benmoro 9 жыл бұрын
the 11 mpg increase entry should be discarded.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+Ben Tj Thanks for sharing!
@Samlol23_drrich
@Samlol23_drrich 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. It skewed the entire analysis. Throw out the high, and low, and recalculate. But I love chris’ videos
@Kiddomike
@Kiddomike 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. If you plot the data in a graph this is a definite outlier.
@PetrolHeadBrasil
@PetrolHeadBrasil 5 жыл бұрын
C'mon, it's a Volvo! Let the guy have some fun!
@nolanmcevoy2547
@nolanmcevoy2547 4 жыл бұрын
It might’ve thrown off the number a little bit. If you look at the amount of people who got negative gas mileage and subtract the outlier which was 1.3 then you have 3 people who got less than -1 mpg and still quite a few people who got more than +1 mpg from this stuff.
@GetGood5
@GetGood5 9 жыл бұрын
Nice test, but I think this proves that the fuel additive doesn't work, at least not enough to pay for itself.
@shawjoe71
@shawjoe71 9 жыл бұрын
+alllmega Right; unless it also cleans your fuel injectors, which would make it worth while to use occasionally.
@tinamcgarrah7794
@tinamcgarrah7794 2 жыл бұрын
Strange but true, an ounce to 8 to 10 gallons of (no ash tcw-3) 2 cycle oil can increase fuel economy. LT-1 Website explains it very well. Works in a Saturn and a Lincoln we own...Also helps to negate bad effects of alcohol in today's fuel.....
@ryanamberger
@ryanamberger 8 жыл бұрын
I've never been a big fan of 90's model sports cars, but I gotta say your corvette is an exception to that. Seeing it sitting there at night with the headlights on and the lamp lights shining on it, just a beautiful car. 👍👍👍
@tinamcgarrah7794
@tinamcgarrah7794 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately those cars rode like buck board wagons..
@sniperlif3
@sniperlif3 8 жыл бұрын
You can deff feel 10 hp if you have less than 200hp. Figure at 200hp that is a 5% increase in speed.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 8 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@bahhaziz
@bahhaziz 8 жыл бұрын
5% increase in hp doesn't mean 5% increase in speed...
@sniperlif3
@sniperlif3 8 жыл бұрын
bahhaziz I did not mean to say speed, meant power(as in seat of the pants feeling).200hp moving a 2000 lb car vs 210hp moving a 2000lb car is 5% increase. If you change 10 hp in a 500hp car you won't feel anything, less than a 2% change. Of course weight factors in making the overall power feeling less than perfect word power.
@bahhaziz
@bahhaziz 8 жыл бұрын
now, I agree 👍
@sniperlif3
@sniperlif3 8 жыл бұрын
bahhaziz Yeah I noticed it after submitting the comment and didn't feel like editing :P
@EduardoSilva-xe3gp
@EduardoSilva-xe3gp 8 жыл бұрын
well done Chris from the west cost I can't see how someone dislike this video is great and we're a community for sure
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 8 жыл бұрын
+Eduardo silva Thanks a lot Eduardo!
@1in7.8b
@1in7.8b 9 жыл бұрын
Man, I love you ChrisFix!
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+CONFIG T Thanks man!
@stephenmccreeryiii9815
@stephenmccreeryiii9815 9 жыл бұрын
The problem with this (or any test that anyone would do) is that the fuel itself is always different. There's really no consistency, but amazing video !
@fishlanding
@fishlanding 9 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, not any value I'd say when the product costs around $30 maybe change your oil, check your tire pressure add some gas and drive on
@tomkilty3192
@tomkilty3192 7 жыл бұрын
Chris you are awesome. You made me get back into taking care of my own car with passion. Thanks dude.
@Skidtire
@Skidtire 8 жыл бұрын
man that vette is in nice shape
@uzqf2107
@uzqf2107 4 жыл бұрын
shaolin Justice no he had it before KZbin
@elainethompson3660
@elainethompson3660 4 жыл бұрын
Ya its nice
@tomthetitan3697
@tomthetitan3697 3 жыл бұрын
He brings it to car shows and relentlessly details it because he enjoys it but he also doesn’t garage queen it he drives and enjoys it which is the way cars should be treated
@That_NJ_guy
@That_NJ_guy 9 жыл бұрын
Rob and Chris are KZbinrs based on cars in NJ, man I love this state.
@mpgomatic
@mpgomatic 9 жыл бұрын
+Miguel Hernandez Jersey Rocks!
@CountryMusic527
@CountryMusic527 9 жыл бұрын
+MPGomatic Central jersey :D
@mpgomatic
@mpgomatic 9 жыл бұрын
CountryMusic52 Even better!
@cordcd7
@cordcd7 9 жыл бұрын
+CountryMusic52 I was gonna say, oh Cheesequake? Right in my area! If I went to Forked River for the test, I'd go to Sonic in Waretown.
@CountryMusic527
@CountryMusic527 9 жыл бұрын
haha yes! I live very close to the Cheesequake rest area, I know the area well.
@mrman17
@mrman17 9 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much my view of these additives - they are best used to clean the fuel system/injectors, then use them occasionally to maintain it.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+mrman17 Thanks for sharing!
@zhbvenkhoReload
@zhbvenkhoReload 8 жыл бұрын
techron vs Sunoco vs Valero vs shell vpower vs Exxon
@logobot
@logobot 8 жыл бұрын
That Volvo threw the data over the hill. My conclusion: it did not work.
@JohnSmith-zg2id
@JohnSmith-zg2id 8 жыл бұрын
Doing a t-test (used to compare sets of data) of the 20 entries on the data sheet, and there is a 73.2% chance of the difference being due to random variance. Also, the standard deviations is much larger than the difference between the averages, which usually indicates that the difference is due to random variance (though in this case it is also due to using different cars).
@GrimYak
@GrimYak 8 жыл бұрын
+Ben R agree here..Only people who had statistics would know. the conclusion should have been: there is no statistical evidence that this product increased mpg...
@dantalin
@dantalin 8 жыл бұрын
Which t-test did you use?
@JohnSmith-zg2id
@JohnSmith-zg2id 8 жыл бұрын
Chenyu Lin Student's t-test
@alexm2623
@alexm2623 8 жыл бұрын
ANOVA would have been better
@alexm2623
@alexm2623 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry - was just watching like 5 of his fuel tests in a row. Was thinking it would be nice if they were all put together and compared to one another.
@frankgonzalez24
@frankgonzalez24 9 жыл бұрын
Great video. This is about the best REAL WORLD test I've seen. It's not some controlled lab test on some closed track with no traffic. Driving the same car with the same driver. We all live in different parts of the US. With different weather conditions, cars, traffic conditions. Drive patterns and drive styles. A lab might "replicate" real world conditions but it doesn't beat the real thing. That is the reason a car might go 400,000 miles in a lab without any issues but will struggle to make it 100,000 miles in the real world. A lab might duplicate the real world but it will never be able to truly be the real world.
@Tesoromio22
@Tesoromio22 9 жыл бұрын
And this was all done by a KZbinr...I can't even imagine the work that went into this!
@DENicholsAutoBravado
@DENicholsAutoBravado 9 жыл бұрын
+Tesoromio22 I know right?
@rronaldreagan
@rronaldreagan 9 жыл бұрын
reread yoir comment and think for a second what you have said...all test should be done in a lab with controlled variables. maybe the real world will be more demanding, but the point of testing is being able to reproduce the same variables again and again so you can JUST focus on playing with one variable and be sure theres no other unvoluntary changes that might bastradize the test without you knowing...internet wannabe scientists...
@DENicholsAutoBravado
@DENicholsAutoBravado 9 жыл бұрын
don trump While I know you're correct, a semi truck fleet manager says that every lab test that's run gets half the result in the real world.
@frankgonzalez24
@frankgonzalez24 9 жыл бұрын
don trump Variables is what makes some lab test completely inaccurate in the real world. Those variables in the lab are knows as everyday people in the real world.
@niagra898
@niagra898 7 жыл бұрын
11 MPG increase on that one dudes car?? Shoulda thrown his test out..no way
@lazroo
@lazroo 5 жыл бұрын
I just came across this video , and I actually have used a bottle of purple royal on a 4runnrr I bought second hand and I'm pretty sure it was poorly taken care of anyways I used the fuel additive and went for long trip , and I was super shocked when I did the math and I got 38 miles per gallon . Which was was way more than I usually get ok highway , like 21 . I was even loaded same passengers , same bags as this is a routine trip I do . Just sharing my personal experience lol
@komori_fire
@komori_fire 4 жыл бұрын
Yea needs another test for that car alone
@ushyamamoto7098
@ushyamamoto7098 4 жыл бұрын
Lazaro O like he said tho that was probably a car w dirty injectors that got cleaned and increased mpg
@madjimms
@madjimms 7 жыл бұрын
1mpg for how much money? I highly doubt the price of the increased fuel economy was enough to justify the additive price.
@CubyDoesStuff
@CubyDoesStuff 7 жыл бұрын
madjimms it is probably made for slower cars
@jhonjohnjonjondoe5011
@jhonjohnjonjondoe5011 7 жыл бұрын
remember it did increase horse power a good bit which would make me think this test is inconclusive and use my head that it does increase MPG. Lets put our thinking caps on and realize increased HP means less straight on the car to pick up and if you drive it the same mpg should go up.
@runemage9008
@runemage9008 7 жыл бұрын
you can buy one bottle that treats 480 gallons for 37.41, so if an average car gets say 24 mpg, that's 20 gallons you saved by the end of the bottle, and depending on where you live that can be upwards of 40~60$
@johnhandcock3242
@johnhandcock3242 6 жыл бұрын
Except, the outlier wasn't thrown out. The actual avg was like 0.5 mpg, and even that might be due to random variables. I suspect it does help improve mpg an incredibly small amount, but only because it helps clean your system. After your system is cleaned, you don't need to add more of the additive in it to see that small benefit.
@milanvermeersch8281
@milanvermeersch8281 5 жыл бұрын
@@runemage9008 In the Netherlands 20 Gallons is way more than 60$. 1 US Gallon = 3.7 LITERS, I pay 1.60 euro's (AT LEAST) per liter, so it's like 5.92 euro's per gallon, times 20 = 118.4 euro's saved, or roughly 130 dollars. I'm definitely trying this stuff.
@issacbourne5111
@issacbourne5111 7 жыл бұрын
When it comes to a fuel additive increasing mpg, there are things to consider on what the additive actually does. What can increase mpg in a fuel additive? 1) Reducing upper ring friction. The top ring does not get much lubrication. So having something in the fuel additive that reduces this friction can increase mpg. Also injectors that are not metering the fuel correctly due to wear can benefit from this also increasing mpg. 2) Reducing the surface tension of the fuel. This allows the fuel to atomize with the air better. If your injectors happen to have a bunch of mileage and they do not even have to be dirty. They can benefit from a fuel additive that does this 3) Increasing the burn temperature of the fuel. Not the ignite temperature but the actual burning temp. Increasing this ensures that more of the fuel burns and a more complete burn 4) Raising octane. Octane is the fuel's resistance to burn. Which on a poorly tuned car corrects the computer retarding the ignition timing to compensate. So according to what your car needs determines which type of additive will increase your mpg. Example: Chris used a Vette. Vettes are known for having precise fuel metering injectors and computers programs to control it. This is to get the most HP while also getting the most mpg. So because the factory focuses on this with this car I suspected when Chris used it in the test that we would see no increase in mpg. So what this tells me is that this fuel additive is probably a surface tension modifier that better atomizing the gas. So on cars that do not have this problem, it will basically do nothing. But cars that need help in this area, it will seem like an answer to prayer as a car can probably get anywhere from 3-5 mpg when atomization is the problem and the additive becomes the fix.
@Maceyee1
@Maceyee1 Жыл бұрын
That Volvo really messed up results. Without that outlier this stuff is really detrimental
@ronaiosa126
@ronaiosa126 8 жыл бұрын
Love how Big Guy Reviews was part of this!!
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 8 жыл бұрын
+Ron Aiosa I try to get my subscribers involved!
@wtfiswiththosehandles
@wtfiswiththosehandles 8 жыл бұрын
This pretty much proves it doesn't work. 4% difference in fuel economy is next to nothing, and could be attributed to different driving style when using additives. Not to mention it would be worse if you didn't take into consideration top and bottom results (11mpg increase... yeah) Your test in a corvette also doesn't prove anything. Even slight wind can change fuel economy at highway speeds, so you may have been driving down and upwind when you drove in two directions. Only test that could prove anything would be a synthetic test with motor on a dyno. That's the only way to remove variables.
@RGV2300
@RGV2300 8 жыл бұрын
or with cruise control.
@jason2709
@jason2709 8 жыл бұрын
I agree
@schlafanzyk
@schlafanzyk 8 жыл бұрын
cruise control makes it worse, because it will keep the speed exactly the same and you don't even notice the effects of wind or hills on the throttle position, because the throttle control is completely out of your hands. that effect also decreases fuel economy overall when using cruise control instead of manual efforts, because the car prioritizes holding constant speed over constant throttle position. that's fine in a completely neutral setting, but as soon as hills, wind or other environmental factors play into the mix, cruise control performs very poorly as far as fuel economy is concerned. it's just about convenience.
@fargeeks
@fargeeks 8 жыл бұрын
+schlafanzyk Well of course it doesn't do well with hills because that is where the engine will change rpms just to maintain the same speed revving higher or lower
@gibbyace5077
@gibbyace5077 7 жыл бұрын
MasterBata 4% is a lot! if you would run your car for a long time with that stuff just guess how much more you would get out of your car!
@ahmed91750
@ahmed91750 7 жыл бұрын
Your corvette is so clean 😍
@ctboi7627
@ctboi7627 7 жыл бұрын
Love the community and testing, keep it up guys!
@manoman0
@manoman0 6 жыл бұрын
ChrisFix, you're brining your channel to a new level. Love it.
@loerstrywin164
@loerstrywin164 9 жыл бұрын
watched "easy fix" on headlights, now I'm here... yo man your videos are great hahah!
@BudgetPhoenix
@BudgetPhoenix 9 жыл бұрын
One problem though is you don't know if everyone was using the same method to calculate mpg, could have been a lot of errors and variables depending how they were calculating( at fill up etc, using the mpg on their dash if applicable, or just arithmetic error). Also weather patterns in different parts of the US could have changed during the duration of the test.
@PetrolHeadBrasil
@PetrolHeadBrasil 5 жыл бұрын
Me: "Honey, I'm going out for a car test, using the Volvo, at night, ok?" Wife: "How is the hooker!?"
@vincebermudez869
@vincebermudez869 2 жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful C4, I love it. I appreciate your testing these products and posting your results.
@AllThingsRamdom
@AllThingsRamdom 7 жыл бұрын
Great way to do an awesome legitimate test with many different types of road conditions and driving Styles and vehicle types involved!
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 7 жыл бұрын
+Tyson Capel thanks!
@Derpface727
@Derpface727 8 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed of how scientific and systematic a youtube test can get. Thanks for your great effort, guess I'd have a try lol
@D2G10
@D2G10 2 жыл бұрын
if this is scientific to you then you should go back to high-school
@taylorseawright5722
@taylorseawright5722 8 жыл бұрын
i can't believe you drove all those miles with no radio lol .....great review by the way
@Impressiongamingcontent
@Impressiongamingcontent 6 жыл бұрын
ChrisFix keeping it real. I love the community involvement and your channel. I'm really looking for stuff that works because my 1980 k10 gets very poor mileage. Thank you!
@codelyokofan1092
@codelyokofan1092 3 ай бұрын
Actually there still might be a bias where the people driving know that the 2nd drive HAS to be more economical, so they drive so unconciously... More importantly, the more times you drive on the same path, the more you tend to drive more efficiently each time, so not sure about its working
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 3 ай бұрын
It's definitely possible, but this was about as scientific as I could get lol
@ABetterMeee
@ABetterMeee Жыл бұрын
Thank you and your KZbin family for your efforts to make life easier and more enjoyable. Bless your hearts everyone!
@finnmartin8746
@finnmartin8746 9 жыл бұрын
Nice corvette! It's amazing!
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+Finn Martin Thanks a lot!
@the_reaper307
@the_reaper307 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris. First I want to say I love your videos. I watch them out of pure entertainment and as a learning experience. But out of curiosity. I've been working at Autozone for quite some time now and we are ALWAYS selling Lucas Fuel System cleaner. We claim it does so much but I've never seen positive results personally. You should try and do a video on Lucas considering how much we make it sound so great.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 8 жыл бұрын
I did a whole fuel system cleaning series and nothing really worked the way you would think. Here are all the videos you can pick from (and lucas too): kzbin.info/aero/PLvKbarVtwhUue-xwasd2WUMrkK0CEm6yy
@georgemartin1436
@georgemartin1436 6 жыл бұрын
I will trust Chris's data, since he followed the exact same route. Therefore, any changes in elevation (or traffic conditions, since the traffic was light in both tests) were negated in Chris's test using his Vette. I do not know if the other testers used the same testing discipline...
@DENicholsAutoBravado
@DENicholsAutoBravado 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought! Feel free to stop by for more things which I have tested for MPG's.
@Ericbryanmr
@Ericbryanmr 7 жыл бұрын
Finally, a test of a product using multiple vehicles, not just letting the outcome rely on the effects on a single car in a single incidence of use (a bit like fuel cleaner videos unfortunately).
@michaelwhitacre8499
@michaelwhitacre8499 2 жыл бұрын
Chrisfix is a friggin legend
@MudRFunR
@MudRFunR 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome review Chris!
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+MudRFunR Thanks a lot!
@Woodenarrows
@Woodenarrows 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video, great group effort.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+Woodenarrows Thanks! And yea it was a great effort!
@mrh112
@mrh112 9 жыл бұрын
Its a good test but most results are within a margin of error you expect. Overall you don't really expect huge changes to your engine with an additive, its designed to clean and extend the life of your engine, not boost performance (very few claim to do that). I usually use it in high mileage cars which smoke, it removes the built up crap and makes the engine run cleaner and gives me a few more thousand miles out of it.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+mrh112 Thanks and thanks for sharing!
@Spartan536
@Spartan536 8 жыл бұрын
ChrisFix, I have watched a few of your videos and have subscribed as of this video. You break things down to the base level, its easy to comprehend, fairly entertaining if you are into automotive performance, and most importantly accurate. The level of detail you go into even with explaining why you did a test a certain way is more than welcome, it should be a standard for everyone doing a review video. Well done sir, and I look forward to seeing more of your test videos, including AMSOIL tests as I love using their Synthetic Oil.
@flycbr
@flycbr 7 жыл бұрын
Best car dude on KZbin. Thanks Chris.
@MrJobforacowboy00
@MrJobforacowboy00 9 жыл бұрын
Dude I'm blow away you got 26 mpg in a corvette! Damnit boy! 👍
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+SNESJedi Haha, and that is with only 4 gears and a performance ratio rear end!
@HandApex
@HandApex 6 жыл бұрын
tried in my 01 Sequoia sr5. i went from 4mpg to 5.3mpg.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know!
@PaxterLP
@PaxterLP 8 жыл бұрын
For anyone interested the average MPG without the 11.4 MPG Guy (which clearly is not due to the additive) is 0.45 MPG.
@lorenzfreimann
@lorenzfreimann 5 жыл бұрын
Chris makes a fantastic job - very clever in concise way. Greetings from Poland
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rogeliobeltran1742
@rogeliobeltran1742 8 жыл бұрын
BRO..... why do you not have more subscribers???!! You got data from different cars, from different locations, different environments, different temperatures. I know you didnt exactly get a control group or double blind studies but this is the most comprehensive and complete testing on cars ive ever seen. My second youtube comment. Congratualtions lol
@Peter_Riis_DK
@Peter_Riis_DK 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris I recently stumbled on a video you made, where you had used engine oil from an old car analyzed. You said that you would have used oil from a new car analyzed soon. That was in January, so ... What time frame does "soon" cover? :-)
@snitox
@snitox 7 жыл бұрын
Peter Riis Hello I'm from the future. The definition of soon has been changed.
@stepfour
@stepfour 7 жыл бұрын
increase of 11 mpg... stop it... you should throw the high and low number out... he screwed your whole test.. those results would have gone in a different direction if he was down at the menial discrepancies like most everyone else... I think he meant 1.1 maybe.
@EPoloMa
@EPoloMa 5 жыл бұрын
Or he probably did city driving then highway
@DENicholsAutoBravado
@DENicholsAutoBravado 4 жыл бұрын
He may have driven more carefully and improved his own MPG wanting it to work. Happens all the time in personal testing. Doesn't happen to me when I test because I'm so consistent with 22 years of MPG testing ideas. The last several years got exciting because all the snake oils which never seemed to work, or caused HARM...some actually help a little now, lol.
@CarsSimplified
@CarsSimplified 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool collaboration!
@davidjesse8689
@davidjesse8689 7 жыл бұрын
I like it when you said, "we are a community... passion for cars".. subscribing here now.
@edwardtrickett1983
@edwardtrickett1983 5 жыл бұрын
Fuel additives do work but they aren't miracle workers They mainly clean fuel lines, injectors and combustion chambers If you use good quality fuel, don't do too many short journeys or if you do occasionally take your car for a longer drive. You will find that your car on the whole has pretty good fuel economy. However if you use low quality fuel, don't service your car frequently and do lots of short trips. Your fuel economy will suffer. I use a fuel additive 3 to 4 times a year. I use good fuel and I do some longer trips but I find that the additives help. I have a 12 ref 1.6 TDCi Ford Focus I average 53MPG I find my MPG drops to around 47 MPG prior to using the additive. I use the additive in accordance with the instructions and usually when I'm doing a long journey. My fuel economy always returns.
@Attachments.
@Attachments. 5 жыл бұрын
Edward Trickett i didnt do highway testing but i average 18mpg in my 08 jeep grand cherokee in the city/country after i used chevron techron. Before i was lucky to see 16 mpg so the techron definetly did clean some stuff up inside. But my car gets a rated 17 city anyway lol.
@SalveMonesvol
@SalveMonesvol 9 жыл бұрын
My conclusion: at least 1 bottle is totally worth it.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+SalveMonesvol I agree. You can get their cheap bottle that is good for one tank and see if it actually works. Worth a shot!
@SalveMonesvol
@SalveMonesvol 9 жыл бұрын
ChrisFix Ah, the nice acknowledgement of existence when the content creator replies to you ;)
@NineS5
@NineS5 8 жыл бұрын
should you drop the hood rather than pushing it to lock so that you dont cause any dents?
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 8 жыл бұрын
+Nine's And AK's Gaming Channel depends on the car.
@splash5974
@splash5974 6 жыл бұрын
Wont dent the hood of that Vette! 😉
@sugarnads
@sugarnads 6 жыл бұрын
Whats gonna dent it?
@darrylbooc1196
@darrylbooc1196 4 жыл бұрын
As an automotive enthusiast and a college student with units in statistics, I am really impressed
@agvs
@agvs 6 жыл бұрын
You know Chris, I have been following you for some time now and I don't know if you will read this but I greatly appreciate you making these videos. I remember when I didn't have my driving license yet, I was watching your videos and it greatly motivated me. Now that I have my license, I feel like a child in a candy shop. I appreciate your way of speech, the manners you have and the mindful approach you take. My compliments for that. If you have any tips for new drivers then they are more than welcome. Thanks a lot, greetings from Europe.
@playzfahdayz
@playzfahdayz 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, 11.4 mpg increase for one car at the very end. That's called an outlier, and it totally ruined your analysis... Real Summary: This stuff is useless.
@DENicholsAutoBravado
@DENicholsAutoBravado 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's worth testing again. A statistician worked with the data. I read a lot of notes from either statisticians or people who have taken the class, or better, and once you throw that test out, there's still a 0.54 average increase.
@Timfield.42
@Timfield.42 9 жыл бұрын
hey chris let me know if you need anymore testers for stuff! id love to help
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+General field Stay tuned because I will have an update video in the future asking for help. I have a ton of cool projects I want to do.
@ruanjiayang
@ruanjiayang 8 жыл бұрын
have you ever considered that fact that the additive itself takes some volume in the fuel tank?
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 8 жыл бұрын
+Jiayang Ruan you use 2 oz every 30 gallons
@ruanjiayang
@ruanjiayang 8 жыл бұрын
yep, just for your reference of rigorous statistic, this is science
@ruanjiayang
@ruanjiayang 8 жыл бұрын
plus, we have to also consider the money we paid for the additive. What we care is the total cost per mile, not only the fuel, right?
@kevinkainzbauer267
@kevinkainzbauer267 7 жыл бұрын
I have my own experience with fuel system cleaners. I used Wynn's Petrol treatment on my 1994 Mercedes E-class petrol. It was sitting for about 3 years and it startet on the first try, so not like your driftstang ;-). But the gas-mileage was pretty bad for a four cylinder. About 12.5L/100km (18.8 mpg). I used the earlier mentioned additive and it worked pretty well. Under similar conditions, my Merc uses about 9L/100km (26.1 mpg). So that's an increase of ~28%. That's pretty amazing. I just want to say, that you're awesome ChrisFix. Keep doing! Greetings from a new fan from across the pond (Vienna, Austria)
@mustafawali4488
@mustafawali4488 8 жыл бұрын
That is one of the cleanest Corvettes I've seen.
@Striball
@Striball 9 жыл бұрын
Mazda Miata clip in the video but didn't run the test of the additive?
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+Striball what?
@Striball
@Striball 9 жыл бұрын
+ChrisFix 3:00 a Mazda Miata is the car but I guess it's for the purpose of filming the Jaguar in front of him, just noticed this. Just kinda odd the shot is of a Miata but didn't show in the spreadsheet.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+Striball Oh, I think he sent me the footage of his Jaguar in front of the miata.
@hatehereyes
@hatehereyes 9 жыл бұрын
+Striball Yup that's my friends Miata. He wasn't part of the test but we do canyon runs together.
@reanderson10
@reanderson10 7 жыл бұрын
All that for 1 MPG? No thanks. Basically it's useless.
@DENicholsAutoBravado
@DENicholsAutoBravado 4 жыл бұрын
0.54 once a statician through out the outliers actually. If you drive 5,000 miles ever month or so that's like a $15 dollar savings and those bottles treat up to 460 gallons, so it really will save you your money (assuming in the last 3-4 years the product hasn't changed).
@wyattmccomas5238
@wyattmccomas5238 7 жыл бұрын
Hey my dad has this corvette except my dads is a wide body
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 7 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@victormendoza871
@victormendoza871 9 жыл бұрын
i realize this is very late but we all need to remember tires will be a variable the pressure the remaining tread ect.. i love these videos i work at a auto parts store and it helps me to be honest when customers ask me what to use . so far i like the royal purple im going to use it in my 03 ford taurus and 03nissan altima both v6
@NotAnArsonist94
@NotAnArsonist94 7 жыл бұрын
Chris you have one of the most informative car videos hands down! I'd love to see one about fixing wheel bearings and how you know when you should fix them. Thank for the vids!
@miguelelelelel
@miguelelelelel 3 жыл бұрын
Love the concept of this video, how you broke down the data, and even included some subscribers. That’s dope!
@BlacklistMotorsports
@BlacklistMotorsports 7 жыл бұрын
Really love seeing a well kept C4, being a new owner of one myself, it really shows how nice these cars can be!
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! What color and year is yours?
@BlacklistMotorsports
@BlacklistMotorsports 7 жыл бұрын
ChrisFix 1990, same color as yours, but a tan top, tan interior Convertible with 74k miles. Thanks for asking!
@jeffreygammel8950
@jeffreygammel8950 4 жыл бұрын
I HAVE A 2013 HONDA CIVIC SI WITH ONLY 23000 MILES.... HAVE A TIP IN PROBLEM... THOUGHT IT WAS BECAUSE I HAD MY COMPUTER DONE... NO MORE REV HANG... WELL... I TRIED THIS MAXX... AND VEOLA!!! CAR RUNS LIKE A CHAMP !!!! NO MORE SURGE AT TIP IN !!! MUST OF CLEANED MY INJECTORS !!!CAR RUNS SO MUCH BETTER WITH MAXX !!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!
@ECxPassion
@ECxPassion 6 жыл бұрын
I had a lifter problem in my V8 5.3L 2007 Chevy Avalanche. I didnt have the money to fix it right away so it sat for about 5 months. When i finally fixed it I dumpped the old gas and put in fresh gas but the Fuel Economy was way lower I put in a total of 2 bottles of this additive in about 2 weeks and it improvved it for about 5 miles per gallon.
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@btaskoy
@btaskoy 8 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. I don't even own a car and I drive my dad's car when I need it, but you have saved my ass from getting a rebuking several times when I scratched the car. So Thanks!
@shaggysmurf4422
@shaggysmurf4422 9 жыл бұрын
I like this channel. This is a nice channel. Seriously, I can't trust ANY mechanics where I live. Complete scams. So it's nice to know people are willing to share their knowledge with those of us who aren't afraid to pop open the hood. Respect.
@xinic5
@xinic5 9 жыл бұрын
+Toad Kinopio Years ago I took the truck I had at the time to a mechanic who when pulling the truck out of the garage to "hand over" to me after finishing working on it, he told me he could fix the broken door handle for $50. I asked how hard it'd be to fix myself mostly joking, and he actually started giving me instruction (though quickly) on how to do it, and that it was really simple. After this I kept taking my truck there. He even fixed it a few times and let me take it with me without paying, without holding anything to insure I would come back. He just trusted me as a frequent customer to return and pay what I owned him.
@ellesmerewildwood4858
@ellesmerewildwood4858 8 жыл бұрын
Awwwwwe I love your Corvette Chris. You don't see too many of those downunder and yours is so pristine. Kudos for keeping it so beautiful. As for the fuel additive, many products I see on youtube available in the US aren't available here, so for what it's worth, as a brand, I like "LiquiMoli".
@89elmonster
@89elmonster 9 жыл бұрын
I just got my first ever car and I an currently 17 years old, I got a 2002 acura tl type S 6 cylinder 250 horse power. And I love it she's me baby, and I've got a few problems with her but I'm trying to fix them, here are some: Power steering pump not working correctly, flat tires, bad breaks, all the interior leather is dry and ugly, back seats and front seats have alot of tear. and that's just a few but these videos are helping me and I thank you for that! =)
@chrisfix
@chrisfix 9 жыл бұрын
+Jarmahent Awesome and congrats! I am glad the videos are helpful!
@Fer-Serrano
@Fer-Serrano 7 жыл бұрын
Como tu lo dijiste, es una comunidad desde muchas partes del mundo, saludos. great work¡¡¡
@sbarua219
@sbarua219 7 жыл бұрын
I use a brand called STP every so often as a fuel additive. In my experience, I assume it's done its job but have never really been sure cause I never paid attention. I drive an 04 Accord EX V6. I told one of my buddies to try it in his Infiniti G35 S and it substantially helped him. So I guess STP (the red bottles I use the most) is good
@sixfootdworf9545
@sixfootdworf9545 3 жыл бұрын
Ford Mustang V6 2013. I use STP 5 in 1 fuel system cleaner every couple months and use standard fuel with an STP octane booster. It does work in my opinion. I used to drive a Lincoln continental. 1997. That thing was a slow beast. 4.7L V8. Anyways, she had bad spark plugs, a bad O2 sensor, and the mechanic was concerned about the injectors... as well as a broken throttle body. Used the STP stuff for a while and I had significant Performance return, injectors were working like new again and the engine as a whole ran a bit better. After everything else got fixed the car ran like new of course, but ever since then I have been using these fuel additives in my cars. (Update on my car... sad news...) A guy pulled out in front of me and failed to yeild. I hit him at 50 MPH and totaled the mustang. Back to the old Lincoln until I get my insurance money.
@hamzaben681
@hamzaben681 6 жыл бұрын
just in case. i m a new follower from algeria (north africa) i think a saw 80% of your videos and they are amazing
@demonbasilisk115
@demonbasilisk115 6 жыл бұрын
Once again Chris Fix impresses me as a racecar mechanic
@tianti8913
@tianti8913 3 жыл бұрын
U did a great job! Thanks a lot,Chris!
@zenaxia8063
@zenaxia8063 Жыл бұрын
we arent just a community, we are a family!
@devincrave7067
@devincrave7067 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are like Scotty with me. I watch your guys get all kinds of tricks and tips that have helped me out. This one mixed with the HP one you did with this product has me thinking about building something. Thank you for this and all your videos. I am going to try something with my car and going by what I know and what I have seen from you and him it should work
@thebbq8756
@thebbq8756 4 жыл бұрын
I wish to thank chris fix for all his videos you have helped me numerous times-- MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR too you MR FIX and everyone else-- THANK YOU
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