Mystery Solved

[@PhilWernette]

Thank you Chris!! I'm completely shocked that you were able to track this down. It was a fantastic Christmas miracle. You're one heck of a tractor detective, just incredible. To be honest, I had somewhat resigned myself to the notion that we would never be able to track any of the information down and would never be able to figure out the serial number. It's cool enough to have this tractor (even if it may have been a Frankenstein project from the past), but to now know a bit more about its history and how it was built just adds that much more to how much I'll enjoy using it in the future. Again, thank you so much Chris for this amazing gift.

[@TCA-v2m]

Great video Chris, appreciate your knowledge and the fact that you are willing to share it with us! Oliver On!

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks!

[@timwoodlee]

Man that’s great, lots of history; knowledge and information you found

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@tosgood71]

Very interesting video. My grandfather farmed with a large 4x4 Oliver on his dairy farm in St. Albans VT. He most likely bought it from Fournier's in Swanton as he is only a few miles south of that dealer. I am not sure what model it was because I was very young. It would be a crazy coincidence if this was the same tractor. He traded it in when he retired for a 4x4 JD 2355 with a loader in the early to mid 90's.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

That would be quite the coincidence, but a great one. Thanks for sharing!

[@rog4864]

What an awesome video. I bet he was shocked and excited that you were able to figure out the serial number for his tractor. I love hearing the history of tractors especially rare ones like that one.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks, he was happy! With it originally being built as a 2wd, we really would have been pulling our hair out trying to find it manually.

[@andrewrothermel113]

Really cool story Chris!

[@craigrasnic4178]

Another awesome video sir thanks for sharing all of your infinite knowledge with the rest of us

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks Craig. I've got a lot of time into figuring this one out, but I enjoyed every minute of it.

[@michaelhalfman9844]

The four cardinal virtues: justice, temperance, prudence - and fortitude. Perseverance got you to the finish line. A good deed well done.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks!

[@kevinconover2108]

I wonder how many high school graduates today know the Cardinal virtues? I know them too and suspect you and I learned them in the same lecture.

[@pagrainfarmer]

I enjoy the history and research you do. Great video.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks, Charlie!

[@corydriver7634]

That was quite the detective work I’m glad you stuck with it.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks!

[@danielwill412]

What a great and neat tractor story!!!

[@jamieebersole6755]

I've been in Swanton Vt already. It was -5 and extremely windy, so i didn't hang around long. It's neat how you figured out the serial number

[@rosstheoliverman]

Now, Alan needs to take a road trip to Vermont and see if either dealer is still in existence. Maybe you can find an old man who’s got the serial number plate screwed to his wall.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

When Blane bought the tractor the guy said he had the plate in a drawer somewhere. After a few reminder calls to him, we gave up on getting it that way.

[@aktdadfixer7297]

The dealer has been gone for a long time. Charlie unfortunately died of cancer. Great guy.

[@corydriver7634]

@@aktdadfixer7297sorry to hear about Charlie. Do you know the building still exists?

[@aktdadfixer7297]

@ yeah it’s an Arctic cat dealer now I believe

[@mikekalsem5507]

Awesome Video, Chris! Way to Solve that Unsolved Mystery! The Museum will be Busy in the Future! I recognized a Guy towards the End! lol Really enjoyed Your Plow Day back in 2017!!! Thanks Again Phil for letting Me Plow with it that Day! Congrats on the Build Card Data!!! 👍🎉

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

That guy is giving the thumbs up because he's so happy to be driving something without a flat tire. 😆 Thanks Mike!

[@dalecoffing8655]

Great story. Not sure how many people would have noticed the tire difference and then developed the whole story from there. Not many! What a detective you are. Looking forward to more.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

My wife reads murder mysteries. Must be she's rubbing off on me.

[@Brilliant._-vf1pp]

❤ That's totally Cool 😎 the research you'll guys did😂❤️ Wonderful 😊

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks!

[@waggtech4883]

The dealer locator map is a neat find! Oliver dealers were sparse in Kansas. I’d always remembered one years ago a few towns away and was able to look them up!

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

There were a lot of them through the years. I know if a couple I need to submit.

[@NCOliverfarm]

Love the floyd county museum. I have all my paperwork for my tractors. Wish the cards went back further .

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I'm impressed they went " computerized" in 1954.

[@NCOliverfarm]

@ThatOliverGuyChris that is true. But how cool would be if they still build info back to the streamlines or even further. Still an amazing resource to us Oliver fellas. Love your channel too. Great stuff

[@jonathancrissinger2301]

Interesting history. Lots of work tracking it down 😂😂. Neat Christmas present for the owner. Take care and I'll see you later.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kc8esc]

Thank you Chris. I have been thinking about getting the build cards for my 1750 and dads 1800. Like you said in the video, someday in the future they will have a great database, but we have to support them now. Some day I want to visit the museum in person.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

There's lots to see in addition to all the tractor stuff.

[@1957720bd]

Love your videos. Have referenced your video on the MFWD axle repair many times. Had a similar case with my 1950. Got the Build Card for it and it left the factory as a MFWD, and was sent to the Growing O show. It is 2wd now. Looks like it was reworked to fill an order. Ordered the 50 series film from Floyd County. Will see if I can find some film of my tractor.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Cool. Does it have a speedometer?

[@BDBuchanan]

really cool how things can come together with a lot of work.

[@Derek_00Mustang83]

That is awesome to learn all of this history!!! My uncle had a 770 with a 2 row mounted corn picker when i was really young and a guy i went to school with still has a 1600 lp.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Awesome! Not too many LPs in any model of Oliver out there. This project will allow us to nail that number down.

[@ArcticNuggie]

When my dad still farmed he did a lot of business through Fourniers and he even gave me a hat from them, and for a while a 2150 has been my favorite tractor, cool to know one came from there! He bought his 6085 and his 2-105 from there aswell

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Cool!

[@johnbender1596]

Nice detective work. Enjoyed the history!

[@GrizC]

Awesome Oliver crazy carries on..👌👍 priceless..

[@Dan-qy1rg]

Great job at deducing the tractor's history, enjoyed the story! A lot of work, but I'd bet Phil is mighty happy and pleased with all those findings. Hence forth you will be thought of as That Detective Guy, Sherlock Losey, just kidding, maybe!🤔I hope you have a blessed day!

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks Dan!

[@wademizelle3433]

Thanks for your videos and very interesting information. There was an Oliver dealer in Derita which was a small community which has been sucked up by Charlotte NC. We attended the elementary school, (Derita) and the dealer was Puckett’s Farm Equipment. 2 or 3 Oliver’s set in the parking lot right on the road. Enjoy all your videos.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks!

[@kevinsasse4971]

Very interesting story! Sitting here in NE wiih a blizzard going on. 12" of snow and 30mph breeze. Your video and a cup of coffee working good together.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I keep waiting for a good deep snow to make a video with the 1650. One of these days...

[@jimkavalier2831]

Quite the adventure

[@waynemilks2352]

Hi Chris that was a very interesting video . In the video you mentioned where the serial number would be on a super 88 . I have regular 88 diesel with no serial number tag would the serial also be located where you said on the super 88. Thanks in advance Wayne

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Yes it would.

[@waynemilks2352]

Also about how much is it to get a build card?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@waynemilks2352 $25 if you have the serial, and I think $35 with the engine serial. Their prices are on their website at www.floydcountymuseum.org

[@waynemilks2352]

Ok Thanks again

[@bernardvonderheide1268]

That is awesome

[@Murphyslawfarm]

G'day Chris. Awesome history

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks Murphy!

[@ramshackleshack751]

I should get the one for dads 880 gas. Its a helical gear with power booster and three point hitch.

[@stevenernst8262]

When I was at the University of New Hampshire in the 1980s the mechanical and hydraulic front wheel assists were a new thought for a farm boy from the mid Atlantic. I soon figured out that the season there of winter mud summer mud repeat meant planting and chopping silage in mud. A neighboring farm had one of those big Oliver's and the front wheel drives of other colors were all through, Maine, NH, VT, and northern NY. I worked through school at the school farms and ran one of those JD 4430 hydraulic assist units much to my chagrin coming from Oliver n IH heritage.

[@michaelsheeder148]

Chris, you seem to be a detective, nice job 👏 thanks Michael

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

It was a fun one to solve. Thanks!

[@johnwarren-649]

That's very interesting history.

[@turnertruckandtractor]

What a neat tractor and story.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks, it was a fun one to figure out.

[@hillbillyhicks8102]

We had a 2150 4 wheel drive on the farm i work on in up state NY.. We lived across Lake Champlain from Vermont. Last time I was back home, the farm was no longer there. The only tractor I seen park in the field by its self was the old ford 9000 we had. Everything else was gone. The 2 Oliver's the barns. Even the bosses old farmhouse. It was kinda sad. I spent many summers working there. All was gone except the Ford. Knowing that tractor it probably still runs. I believe it survived because it a had a log spliter mounted on the 3 point to split wood, and it was still attached to it. I spent a few winters behind it, splitting firewood.. Its a small world you never know. I plowed many fields with that 2150

[@danjosephson6910]

While you were talking about gear ratios it reminded me in CH Wendell's book Nebraska Tractor Tests Since 1920 concerning test 872 Oliver 1950 4 wheel drive. The repairs and adjustments section states "During the drawbar runs it became apparent that the gear ratio in the front axle was not correct for this tractor. Another front axle with more suitable gear ratio was installed and test continued."

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Interesting. Oliver had been making fwa for a few years at that point, and they let that slip through? I bet there's a story there...

[@mikehill9888]

Thank you for the video

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks for watching!

[@aaronkaraszewski2749]

Hey Chris, I have to believe in coincidence's! I was just talking to George about this the other day and here you do a video about it! He could add some more information to your story of how these tractors came to show up at your place. He remembers picking up what now is Phils tractor, in upstate NY I believe near the Vermont border like you said. The other one came from down state NY. So I believe Blane swnt the 2150 you guys restored went to Aumans auction I believe? It was bought by a collecter here in WNY and brought back to NY as luck would have it. That is a very interesting story about these tractors and how you found out the serial number for Phil. This new information is really cool and I am glad there are guys out there willing to take the time to go thru all this information and help us out know more about our tractors.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

If it weren't for Blane's connection to George, I wouldn't have known to get ahold of him about the 1600 fwa. I doubt I would have landed that one without George's help. It's a little over an hour drive down to Yoder and Frey, so we hauled them to my place in 2 trips. As you already know, they almost went through the auction! I think Blane was sweating. 😆 🤣 😂

[@hughmackellar7941]

Very Neat!

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks!

[@geoffb.8925]

Great video and awesome detective work! It’s pretty cool to know the stories of how they came to be where they are now. I’ve got a 1655 MFWD that I believe came down out of Montreal, Québec and a 1950 MFWD that was sold as an industrial with pto, hydraulics, three point, and I believe it had terra tires originally (I have the original fronts with it) unless I’m mistaken but the build card has a lot of unknown codes marked on it. This video made me realize that this one was changed after it rolled of the line like you found out with the 2150. Cool stuff! Thanks for the video!

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Check your G code for your 1950. 60x43x25 terra tires was G80. We've been finding there were quite a few tractors shipped with terra tire fronts and regular ag rears.

[@geoffb.8925]

The g code is g099 and isn't listed on the code print out provided with the build card. But there is a pen mark right next to the g080 option that is pretty deliberate. The same situation is found on the k code for the front. It's coded k099 but has a mark next to the k036 code. On one of my other build cards I found that the 099 code represented a special build of materials. Is that correct?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@geoffb.8925 per special build is correct. I wonder if they shipped it with 2 sets of wheels. I've never seen one like that, and the card reader won't pick up those hand written notes. The fact it still has the terra fronts with a note of the terra codes would make me think it had them on there. What's the serial number of your tractor? I might have to look into that further when we get to the 1950s.

[@geoffb.8925]

​@ThatOliverGuyChris ​Sorry if there are multiple responses here. Either my internet or KZbin itself is being difficult. The pen marks aren't on the actual build card themselves as far as I can tell. But they are on the print out with all known codes provided by the museum. Edit: I figured out that KZbin wasn't allowing my reply through because they think the serial number is a phone number....

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@geoffb.8925 ok. How about the H, I , and L codes?

[@lukestrasser]

Really cool investigation here!

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks Luke

[@dougschmitii6165]

What a cool, interesting story!

[@bigun447]

I was waiting for you to say "My dear Watson, it is quite elemental" in this wonderful video. I had to deliver the last 2150 we had on the floor back to the Peoria Warehouse. They told me that it was going to the president of Vietnam. They could have been pulling my leg but knowing how Uncle Sam was trying to influence leaders of other countries I believe that was entirely possible. I hauled it on our 2 axle Chevy Low cab forward and was definitely overweight on axles. Due to my previous sad experience of where the weigh stations were, I knew the no-weigh-stations route to cross the Illinois River just north of the Peoria Oliver warehouse and back to the interstate. Here is a story I like to tell. It was the same route we took when my wife and I delivered a Snorkel Fire Truck to Coal City FD at the Quad Cities Airport. The airport had sent a crew down to get the truck from a company that rebuilt Government equipment for distribution by the government. This truck had not been worked yet so when the crew got there they were told to get it off the rebuilder's lot (they were upset as they wanted the local FD to get it). So we got the call to drag it out and up the street to our dealership. We helped the crew get the gas engine working so they could drive it. One problem that was not easily fixable was that the hydraulic clutch leaked off when you pushed the clutch in. The guy who was going to drive it knew that problem but when he put it into low gear the clutch self-released. It was not a problem except that he forgot to release the airbrakes which twisted the driveshaft into multiple pieces. Their boss did not want to pay for his crew to spend multiple days in a motel while the driveshaft was being rebuilt so they returned home. So we got the job of fixing the driveshaft and delivering the truck to Quad Cities airport. We got $3.00 a mile for the truck and $1.50 a mile for the 2-day round trip for the escort vehicle which was my wife driving our personal car. We had friends halfway that we spent the night at which was on a U.S. Air Force base. That is another story of its own. The dealership owner thought he should get some of the money we collected for using our personal car even though he got the same amount for delivering the fire truck plus the time and parts, batteries and etc items. used in getting it running. I let him deduct my wages for the 2-days I was absent from the dealership. Knowing the firetruck was overweight I went north to Champaign, IL, then from Bloomington, IL to El Paso, IL, west through Washington, IL, onto Peoria, IL, and then to the interstate on the other side of Peoria, which went to the Quad Cities. Now comes the fun part of the whole trip. When we got to the east edge of Washington, IL, a cop saw us and OH OH we were in trouble. Instead, he waved for us to follow him and turned his rotating lights and siren on. I turned the trucks on and he escorted us through Washington. I would have loved to have seen his face when he pulled off on the west edge of Washington and saw the name on the snorkel boom "Job Corps, Poland Springs, Maine."

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Great story Gary! Thanks for sharing.

[@sterff89]

Neat story! I think I’d stamp the number somewhere or make a plate.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

He's going to get a new plate made. Oliverdecals.com has them in case anybody is wondering.

[@sterff89]

@ Cool! I knew they made tags for IH/Farmall but, wasn’t sure about Oliver.

[@banditfarmer1900]

It's great they figured out a way to access the information that Oliver used back then. I look forward to this because it might shed some light on my 1550 Utility because the museum told me my 1550 Utility diesel is the only one that had no branch delivery on the build card and was marked "Short Hood" and has a factor patched hood on it and the old style swept back axel under it and Cockshutt red paint under the green paint on the fenders. This one is a bit of an odd one for sure. Bandit

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I know they haven't gotten to the 1550s yet. Maybe when they get to those I can research it and make another video.

[@banditfarmer1900]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris Sounds like a plan to me ! I'm still wondering with all the odd things about this 1550 if it is that 5th Cockshutt 1550 utility they have no idea what happened to because of what Mr Shaffer said about it when I met him and Sherry at that in Wilmington Ohio years ago. He got excited when he looked at my build card and copied it to research it more and asked me a lot of questions about it and I told him what I knew about it and as far as I know I'm the 3rd owner of it. Funny thing is I stacked hay behind this tractor in 1972 and he had had this tractor for several years at that point and when I saw it for sale it was when I realized it was a utility and had to buy it ! LOL With only 550 built and 1 of 138 as a diesel (as I was told) with a factory patched hood red fenders and an old style front end it makes you wonder if it could be something special. Bandit

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@banditfarmer1900 what's the serial number? I can check against sime of the info I have

[@larryklostermann5779]

Interesting video Chris

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks!

[@marcbeebe]

That's some detective work! Our 2255 came from Charlie Coryn in Canadaigua, NY. I think the 1850 came from Alexander Equipment in Alexander, NY. But the Super 88 and Super 77 came from Folk & Kelly in Perry, NY; I see their dealership (long closed) isn't on the map.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Click on contact on the oliver archives website and send them an email. I'm sure they'd be glad to add them to the map.

[@bigfoot4515]

Happy New Year Chris. I noticed it looked like parts of the hood and side panels are preferrated. Is that correct? Was that for more airflow....cooling? Did the higher horse cat engine models have those also? I don't think I've ever seen those on any other models.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Yes they are perforated. The factory panels were solid, and you're right, they were having trouble getting rid of the heat. They swapped the solid panels for perforated. I have seen 1 solid panel in all my travels. The 2255 had the side panels that puckered out to make room for the Cat v8. The front of those panels were perforated. It's not as obvious as the 2050/2150.

[@johnderick4160]

I knew Devine's and the dealer in Orwell vt John Hansarick and sons .Fournier's is still in business, we have 2 1650's and a 1655 that came from Devines,Great investigated story!!!!

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

You're the second person to say the Fournier's is still open. We might have to give them a call. Thanks!

[@CurtMcElvain]

That is cool!

[@waynerichardson930]

This is the second Oliver you have highlighted in your videos coming from DeVine's. As I mentioned before, the farm I worked on in the mid 70's had Olivers from Devine's. Unfortunately, I have no direct knowledge of who their other customers were.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

This is that same tractor from the previous video.

[@KeithHamilton-c3f]

That's awesome

[@randallvos]

Pretty cool that Phil's tractor is another "one of" in terms of the way it was optioned..........

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

There were enough options that I think we'll be finding quite a few "one of" tractors. Especially on a low production model like the 2150. Time will tell.

[@PhilBrechbill-po1fl]

The Oliver sleuth scores again! Congrats! Will have to look thru old sales contracts to see if I can find mine. Pretty sure it was 68, Remb 421 prefix. Had the continental cab like the one you wrecked with fender tanks. Kept the rain and snow off but if over50 degrees you couldn’t open enough windows! Handled the 830 well and never ran out of power on 6-16s, slippage was a different story, in furrow w/ on land dual. Traded for one of the first AC7060 PS with maroon belly and 7btm DMI w/White bottoms, pulled mostly at 16 to 18 in, but had a couple fields of clay hills that had it narrowed clear up 13 or 14 in. Heard the 2150 went off toward Warsaw IN and a year later blew up, think it was about 3000hr when I traded it. Happy new year and Go Green, did the swear jar but basketball or hockey tickets?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

It bought hockey. They beat Wisconsin last night in overtime. That was at Wrigley field, abd we didn't go. But we did get to watch them pull off a win against the Badgers Thursday night at MSU! That place is really dipping into my tractor fund. Lol

[@PhilBrechbill-po1fl]

I Bet! Watched most of the 4 games in Wrigley on BigTen network, did fall asleep before the end of Wisc., looks like a good team worthy of the ranking. Talked to MSU AD at intermission, he said student section season tickets sold out in under 5 min. Great to see Izzo there supporting hockey. The outdoor night match at 15 degrees in a place like Wrigley would sure be a lifetime memory for all and defending a No 1 ranking. Good luck rest of the way, at.least beat Mich and ND!

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

That's the plan. We got season ticket s for this year, so we'll be there if it's a home game. I'll wave!

[@donneuharth9495]

Detective Chris Losey: "He has a very unique set of skills".

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

😆 🤣

[@tpfromcentralpa1692]

I was most excited you posted a dealer map link, thought maybe I could find who sold Oliver near me, but the map shows nobody close to me. There had to be one somewhere close as there was a few Oliver Superior Drills, and a tractor here and there from the period, but nobody local atleast that is still alive knows who sold them, so they must have not lasted very long. Nearest one on the map is acouple counties away, I know in that period people where I am were dealing somewhere alot closer than that.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

They're still adding to the map as more people send them the names of former dealers. Hopefully they'll get it soon.

[@tractorguy100]

So would the factory have replaced the first serial number tag with one for corrected front end equipment or do you think they would have left original tag on it?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

We've been wondering that. I've seen both ways. The ones that weren't updated were used by the experimental department. The ones that I have seen that were updated by production have had the plates updated or replaced. I know of another 2150 that was built as a 2 wheel drive and was changed at the factory, I'll have to check it out.

[@tractorguy100]

@ thanks for the story on this one. That is a great looking tractor, with the story to go with it. Take care…

[@jakereynoldsvter]

I’m 10 minutes from Swanton, Vermont and that dealer is still there as a agco dealer

[@timwhite9255]

I don't suppose anyone knows if there is a list of Canadian Oliver dealers? I only know of one and that was near Sarnia Ont.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Sorry, I don't know of one.

[@gregdavis8152]

Great story Chris. That is some good detective work. I have talked with Derek Huhn several times. He says they can run 300 cards a minute through the reader. Derek has written an article about what they are doing. If you would like to add anything to this for the next issue the deadline is January 20. Also, I know where he can get a new serial number plate. Lol.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Derek said he had sent you an article. Iwrote up a couple pages for Phil so he'd have the whole story, and told him where to get his new serial tag. I should have mentioned that in the video. Like I said, I should write an outline or script so I stay on topic and don't forget anything. Lol

[@redironacres]

I was thinking at first you were gonna say it was from Quebec as 20.8-38 tires are more common in Canada. Is the serial number of the 1755 close to 226 835?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

That would explain the 20.8s. I bet he had some Canadian customers. Alan's 1755 is 226 716. Pretty close!

[@redironacres]

@ That could be, I’ve seen a few 2255s for sale in Quebec with the same tire layout. Yeah I gotta get the build card for my 17 to go with the dealer records I have on when it was sold new

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@redironacres dealer records too. You should get the build card and do a video on the tractor.

[@redironacres]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris Yeah once I get the build card I’ll do a video talking about the history of the tractor

[@alanbare8319]

Hopefully he can have a new Serial Tag made up with correct part number and serial number.

[@adamgreen7191]

We had a 2055 4wd corns bought

[@aktdadfixer7297]

I use to buy parts at Devines, I did my internship for college across the road at the hesston dealer. I wish I had done it there. Charlie the owner was a great guy and he had a couple great guys in the shop, I remember Earl but I cannot think of the other mechanic. Former equipment is still going. My 1950T was bought used at Forniers, but originally was in Idaho.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Cool! It's amazing how far some of these tractors have moved over the years.

[@aktdadfixer7297]

@ yeah it is the person who owned it had it for 40 years. They drove it from Rochester VT. to Crown Point,NY where I have been driving by for a long time. I noticed where the transfer case is it looks like it was cut out with bc a torch. Would they have done something like that at the factory?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@@aktdadfixer7297 no. That was a common field update by farmers and maybe even some dealers so they could work on the teansfer case without splitting the tractor.

[@aktdadfixer7297]

@ ok that makes sense. I thought maybe they added a mfw to a 2 wheel drive but I figured out through the museum. It was actually built that way that way. What town did that 2150 come from? If it’s close to me, maybe I can help you hunt down that serial number plate.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@@aktdadfixer7297 I'll check with Blane for that town.

[@BenLiddle-s8t]

Do know what town he got the 2 2150s in

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

No, but I'm looking into it. They were a couple hours apart.

[@jeffstephens7958]

Good morning Chris interesting info does the museum keep track of the Fiat built tractors I have a 1450 would like to know more about it

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

They have info on them. When they entered the USA, Oliver did final touches and inspection before thry were sent on to dealers. The museum has those inspection sheets. They can get you the info from those.

[@jeffstephens7958]

@ThatOliverGuyChris how do I contact them I have the serial number for mine

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@jeffstephens7958 call them at 641-228-1099. They're closed Mondays and are on central time.

[@jeffstephens7958]

@ThatOliverGuyChris thank you

[@johnderick4160]

Tell the viewer that could not remember the other mechanic at devines his name was Bob Patterson!Bob worked at Hansarick till they closed, then devines till Charlie died and Champlain Valley Equip till he retired.Fourniers have a huge spring spring auction every year

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

I looked up Fournier's web site and saw the auction and an interview the local news did with Rene. That was cool.

[@Oliver-kv2mm]

I know George, I met him at the 2016 National Show.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

George helped me get my 1600 fwa. He's a great guy!

[@JayHansen-q6d]

i sent them a request for my Dads 770.. they told me to take a hike.. not possible.. so is it now possible ??

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

What wasn't possible?

[@ces188charles6]

Cool sherlocking......

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Thanks!

[@HughS-n6t]

Hi Chris, interesting video. Curious about the 099 no spin front differential. I take it that is an option. Was this a clutch disk kind of a posi? Was it full time? Rare?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

We didn't open this one up, but I think it's like a Detroit locker. Either front wheel can turn faster than the differential, but neither can turn slower. It was an option, and I have seen it on a few tractors now, but I'd stil call it rare.

[@HughS-n6t]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris Does Herman have one? Have you noticed on your FWA tractors that only one front wheel spins?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@@HughS-n6t Herman has a regular differential. I can get some spinning here and there, and one side might slip more than the other, but I can tell both sides are working.

[@HughS-n6t]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thanks' for the reply's Chris. Your content & site is exemplary. Best wishes to you for a prosperous 2025.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@HughS-n6t thank you!

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[@paulletsinger4896]

I knew of a 2050 ordered with a hydra power instead of over under so that would be low production

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

We might be able to find it now.

[@tomseaberg]

Do you know the serial number or spec number?

[@paulletsinger4896]

@tomseaberg unfortunately no

[@jasondow2969]

Rene’ Fournier’s is still in business

[@adamgreen7191]

Sorry 2050 4wd corns bought

[@tomreisinger6220]

Why does 1 have planetary finals,and 1does not?

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Do you mean the rear axles? All of the 2 wheel drives had planetary final drives to handle the higher horsepower of the Hercules. Four wheel drive spread that load out between the front and rear axles, so adjustable rear axles were regular equipment. The 2150 could be ordered as an Extra Heavy Duty version that was 4 wheel drive with the rear planetary final drives.

[@jeffreyhall5679]

Just watched your video and I live in Vermont . The fornier dealership is still in business the other is long gone.There are a lot of Olivers in that area I owned a 1650 myself . There is a 2255 and 1950t just sitting for years in the town of Shelburne that can't be bought the 2255 is 4wd no cab .

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

That's cool that they are still going. i wonder if they have any old records of what they sold over the years. Four wheel drive Olivers were quite popular in Quebec, I bet they sent more than one over the border through the years.

[@jeffreyhall5679]

It might be worth a call . I think the son runs it now. In the area there is a lot of good size farms. If your friend got the 2050 from Northern NY. It could have come from them.

[@jeffreyhall5679]

2150

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