As I Christian, I really appreciated this discussion. Christian Nationalism has bothered me for a long time. I have many friends who are Christian Nationalists, and I have sometimes gently tried to point out their hypocrisy by asking "what would Jesus do?" but to no avail. The sheer arrogance of believing, without any biblical, scientific, or historical support, that the United States is an extension of Israel, God's chosen people, is quite frankly ridiculous. Yet so many are convinced of this. The hatred they show (although they would deny it's hatred, just 'being realistic') toward those who are not like them or who do not agree with them--the name calling, mocking, bullying, rejecting, etc.--flies in the face of the biblical command to 'love one another' and 'love our enemies.' They forget that we are a secular society, and the liberties they espouse and enjoy are not just for them but for all. Jesus lived under oppressive Roman rule yet did not rail about the injustices and cruelty. Even when he faced death by crucifixion, he remained silent. Christian Nationalists are the first to call what they perceive as easily offended liberals "snowflakes" yet they exhibit this same behavior when anything that goes against their Christian Nationalistic beliefs is challenged.
@xerk29454 жыл бұрын
This. When you are devoutly Christian and have conservative religious beliefs and actually call people out on their poor behavior it's really hard to find a place to fit in. I always feel like I don't fit anywhere. It encourages me so much when I meet other believers who find their locus in the Bible instead of Fox News.
@SavannahSedai4 жыл бұрын
I’m a Christian too and this subject has forever bothered me. I’ve finally started telling people exactly what I think....they are making idols out of our country....plain and simple. But they refuse to see it.
@MikeJohnson-nj1ry4 жыл бұрын
I was born into the cult of Joseph Smith. Mormonism, when viewed in context of the Second Great Awakening, was constructed around the Book of Mormon, which sought to explain endemic Americans in Biblically context. Native Americans were a lost tribe of Hebrews. The Bible is geographicly centric. A all knowing God failed to acknowledge humanity outside 8% of earth surface.
@OGBanditGaming4 жыл бұрын
Your religion is not a religion just a business. Do you think your pastor would still preach if the money stopped coming in? They would say " God didn't want it this way" as an excuse to find a new job 😂
@thehalalreviewer3 жыл бұрын
I have wanted to ask a Christian that doesn’t identify as a Christian Nationalist this for a while now: Do you feel like Christianity is being hijacked with political identity in the U.S.? I feel like they probably speak more about politics than theology in many Churches in this country, and if that is so then how do those people NOT SEE THIS?!!!
@TimBitten4 жыл бұрын
I come from a rural conservative Christian background. There is much unspoken racism. The people seem to think you are blameless and harmless as long as you’re polite when you express your horrible beliefs.
@mikewinburn4 жыл бұрын
thank you, Tim, for putting that out there. Having become a christian May 1982 at a conservative baptist church in the south, i was very, very disappointed when i discovered this non-refutable reality. Many housed bigotry, discrimination, and even racism under the guise of "conservative conviction". Not everyone of course - - but it was blatant (albeit in naivety for the most part.). So, this vid has a lot of truth behind it...albeit, it really falls into op-ed at many times - but hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But this video is 100000% accurate in presenting the conservative right as practicing "christian nationalism" that is having an impact on american society - in not so positive ways at this time.
@1MarkKeller3 жыл бұрын
@@mikewinburn There are no "positive ways" in Christian Nationalism.
@hadara694 жыл бұрын
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in("Hugging") the flag and carrying a cross(Bible)." ~Sinclair Lewis
@Masky99494 жыл бұрын
Sounds like trump
@allencolvin6564 жыл бұрын
More like dry humping the flag!
@rebeccabrockway82583 жыл бұрын
Carrying a bible upside down . . .
@kerryberger9853 жыл бұрын
He was spot on.
@jeanettecook10883 жыл бұрын
...Like the cross they brought into Washington DC in January.
@kakumee4 жыл бұрын
I am a Christian and even I am alarmed by the extremeist Christan nationalist movement!! I appreciate you guys talking about this!! Keep telling the truth of this cult movement!! Thank you so much!!
@guthrie_the_wizard3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being an ally to the protection of all people.
@julienkinsale49573 жыл бұрын
I feel the same shame, especially in regards to my kinfolks to whom I have preached the gospel.
@michaeldautel75684 жыл бұрын
People that say they like “In God we Trust” have never Read the Bible.
@1MarkKeller3 жыл бұрын
Or they have read it, but realized early on that they could use for their own selfish reasons.
@WilliamMorfin4 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the best interviews I’ve seen in a long time. It really captures and summarizes the inner workings of Christians in America that I’ve been witnessing for a long time.
@timothymulholland79054 жыл бұрын
Christian nationalism is strong among evangelical Brazilians, who have taken a major step toward church-state fusion with the 2018 election of President Bolsonaro. There is a great deal of pushback in the Legislature and elsewhere. The Catholic Church, still the major denomination, is definitely not on board.
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim4 жыл бұрын
Catholics aren’t on board with Bolsonaro or with the pushback?
@jjink2k104 жыл бұрын
in brazil there are brown brazilians and the power structure of european decent white brazilians
@Millo18684 жыл бұрын
The problem is rampant in all of Latin America.
@j.christie25944 жыл бұрын
Those who can make you believe absurdities. Can .make you commit, Atrocities$!-VOLTAIRE.
@theeyesabove77504 жыл бұрын
Holy water=Magic potion Prayer=Magic spell God=Magic being.... These people live in a magical land of make believe....
@PDCConstruction-pi1rd4 жыл бұрын
Do not kid yourself. TRUMP IS A MAJOR ENABLER EVEN THOUGH HE'S THE FURTHEST FROM BEING A CHRISTIAN.
@MarquisLeary344 жыл бұрын
Trump knows an exploitable resource when he sees it.
@davidhoran71164 жыл бұрын
Which is why I detest people downplaying him as harmless for what seems like “stupidity”. He’s fully endorsed and enables perhaps the most dangerous political faction in this country.
@pauljimerson82184 жыл бұрын
@@MarquisLeary34 Not much of a Religious Left now is there?
@annemurphy64834 жыл бұрын
Watch "The Family" on Netflix. It explains a lot.
@troyyurchak32134 жыл бұрын
Great discussion...as a previous "christian nationalist", spot on. I am still a patriot, and still a christian, but christian nationalism is an abuse of both the belief it purports to hold up and the nation it purports to serve. Thank you for this discussion.
@brendenpeterson56844 жыл бұрын
Glad you left the movement!
@MrTibbs904 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see another Christian on here who knows where the line is. I am Christian. But, I have no right to force my beliefs on others.
@scofah4 жыл бұрын
We win the argument by winning the Elections. Vote for Democrats. Save democracy.
@pvthitch4 жыл бұрын
The vice-president, the secretary of state, the attorney general and chief-of-staff are all four evangelical christian dominionists. All four!
@davidbible14694 жыл бұрын
This is the history of Christianity. The Roman Catholic Church has spent centuries involved in a country’s political/governing power.
@ninapersson41094 жыл бұрын
Didn’t you hear that interview where republican strategists asked the Christian leaders for “we need more fear and more anger”.
@Jupiter_Crash4 жыл бұрын
This really helped me with defining and clarifying Christian Nationalism. Thank you I look forward to reading the book. I can’t help but to evaluate the Christian Nationalism ideology through Steve Hassan’s BITE Model.
@meredithwhite57904 жыл бұрын
Have you read The Cult of Trump by Steven Hasan? It is well worth the read. Also American Fascists by Chris Hedges.
@laylaali59774 жыл бұрын
It’s never a good idea to mix religion and politics religious people should just follow spiritual teachings of their faith.Christian nationalism is like politic Islamist it uses religious language but it’s all about politics.Very dangerous.
@andrebrown89694 жыл бұрын
The enablers are the biggest hurdle to overcome for any movement.
@hemidas4 жыл бұрын
"America is a Christian Nation!" Uhm, which one?
@KrustyKlown4 жыл бұрын
Judaeo Christian Islamic Hindu Mormon Buddhist Jain ....... Unicorn, Bigfoot Nation!!
@Conn30Mtenor4 жыл бұрын
Christianity has always marched lockstep with fascism.
@SilentDanDisney3 жыл бұрын
@@Conn30Mtenor It’s a very fine distinct line not to cross.
@kakumee4 жыл бұрын
Someone should make a group Christians aginst Christian nationalist!
@kanahble3 жыл бұрын
I'm so down for a "Christian deconstructing and reconstructing" group
@Stew6181573 жыл бұрын
The group “Christians Against Christian Nationalism” has been around at least since 2019.
@dw23693 жыл бұрын
Good point
@zekedabomb33433 жыл бұрын
There already is a Christians against Christian nationalism organization
@gorillaguerillaDK2 жыл бұрын
There already is one, and Andrew Seidel and FFRF already work with them…
@Eliphas_Leary4 жыл бұрын
Democracy was invented by polytheists. Monotheists prefer monarchic structures. Hitchens had a great quote about that...
@aquaticborealis48774 жыл бұрын
Religious persecution will actually escalate wildly under the Christian nationalist paradigm. And that includes some forms of Christianity
@daveschoenfeld4 жыл бұрын
Few things could be more pernicious for America than a fusion of right wing nationalism and radical Christian beliefs, that produce a fascist version of theocracy. Separation of religion and government has never been more crucial.
4 жыл бұрын
If they made those "political churches" pay taxes they'd lose the politics in a hurry.
@user-rx2ur5el9p4 жыл бұрын
I think the Christian-Fascism connection is because of "submission to authority", too. That is: they submit to God, they submit to their pastor, they submit to their parents. Why wouldn't they then also submit to their government?
@joqiii34 жыл бұрын
This channel should have at least a million followers.
@MatthiasKlees3 жыл бұрын
best sign, you nailed it: The usual trolls do not even dare, to touch the commends thread. A public understanding of the game they play, is what REALLY freaks them out.
@Patrick774874 жыл бұрын
Imagine, if you will, a planet inhabited by semi-civilized presumptuous creatures which, by their own disposition, harbor more than enough deadly sophisticated weaponry to destroy competing fellow creatures many times over; yet lack the will, foresight, and common purpose in fending off existential threat from a very simple form of life, a primordial unpresuming unconscious minuscule creature also inhabiting such planet. You have just entered The Twilight Zone.
@rudra624 жыл бұрын
Yes. That existential threat isn't coming from SARS-Cov-2 though. Sure, it's deadly to a small percentage, makes a bigger percentage very sick, and gives an even bigger percentage long-term serious health consequences. As pandemics go, this one isn't too bad. But, climate change ensures that we'll have more novel pathogens, and antibiotic resistance ensures the return of old pathogens. For instance, note that the Black Death (30-60% fatal) killed 75-200million in Europe in the 13th century. There were numbskulls in the 13th century who thought it was witchcraft, people not praying enough, people harboring cats, and other superstitions that caused plague. Of course, in regards to the cats, the opposite was true: Cats kill rats which carry fleas that harbor Yersinia pestis (plague bacteria). People in the 21st century are deliberately as ignorant as those in the 13th century were, and it will get similar results.
@Catman74424 жыл бұрын
This so informative. Thanks. I want to send this to an evangelical, FOX Newsy cousin since in a previous discussion (argument) she asked me, “What is Christian Nationalism?” She never heard of it. I've read Siedel's book on the myth. But she's old and would never change her views. It only stirs defensiveness in both of us and anger, bad blood with Christmas-visit relatives and not much additionally questioning what she believes. But I do want her to know how I think, how I come to my sinful opinions. I wrote down the answer (soft rant) including the link to this and put it in my journal as if writing to her, but I probably won't send it to her. Unfortunately, it's that kind of fear of an unwanted kerfuffle that keeps many conscientious atheists quiet and allowed/allows Christianity in America and this violence-prone ideology to take hold. It's a catch-22 for many of us, I'm sure, and unhealthy for our formally great country.
@AmitKumar-qz2us2 жыл бұрын
The so-called Christian nations are the most enlightened and progressive...but in spite of their religion, not because of it. The Church has opposed every innovation and discovery from the day of Galileo down to our own time, when the use of anesthetic in childbirth was regarded as a sin because it avoided the biblical curse pronounced against Eve. And every step in astronomy and geology ever taken has been opposed by bigotry and superstition. The Greeks surpassed us in artistic culture and in architecture five hundred years before Christian religion was born. - Mark Twain, a Biography
@anamericaninamerica4 жыл бұрын
Most engaging and informative. Thanks.
@neilforbes4164 жыл бұрын
Here's something I posted last night on Rationality Rules' "community" page, thought you'd be interested. I've edited this a bit to show that it isn't totally new. Anyway, here it is: "Here's some good news. Watching my local Nows bulletin on Station NBN-Newcastle(Australia),(last night, 24th August, 2020), I saw a report that the Newcastle branch of the New South Wales Teachers' Federation have instigated a campaign to eliminate religious lessons(referred to as "scripture") from NSW primary schools, hopefully this will also include high schools. The federation claims that "scripture" lessons are cutting into the time teachers have to teach their classes. Whatever the reasoning behind it, I wholeheartedly applaud the Newcastle branch of the NSW Teachers' Federation and hope this goes Australia-wide. Religion has NO value whatsoever and should have ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE in our educational institutions from Kindergarten right through to Universities and Colleges. Schools are for education, NOT BRAINWASHING!" I thought I'd share this with you at FFRF as it seems you are striving for something similar in America.
@utube0123413 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the United States is going in the opposite direction. Christians here feel oppressed if they don’t have complete control of the society and can’t base laws on their religious beliefs
@timothybattey1714 жыл бұрын
Join FFRF! I'm glad I did. And make a donation. Any amount will do. Thanks!
@thedarknessthatcomesbefore42794 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, very interesting and slightly unsettling!👍
@meredithwhite57904 жыл бұрын
Check out American Fascists by Chris Hedges. It also discusses Christian nationalism. It was written in 2007 but it is eerily spot on about what is happening today.
@silviahenriss52604 жыл бұрын
I am definitely buying this book!
@barbaraannen81264 жыл бұрын
I'm a zero and can't understand why everyone isn't
@stan10274 жыл бұрын
In response to your question at 10:00 into the video, listen to Jerry DeWitt's "Rise of the Ameri-God"
@ecocentrichomestead67834 жыл бұрын
Now the conspiracy theories makes sense! In Christianity, you are gods child and anyone not of your type of Christianity is constantly scheming to do you harm!
@aufmpe4 жыл бұрын
For examples of what they are talking about, see Glenn Beck’s Blaze media and it’s associated hosts Twitter streams. Warning: Disturbing content.
@davidsiegel78824 жыл бұрын
'Well that hit the nail on the head' said Jesus Christ son of a carpenter. 10.32.
@lifeisoverated814 жыл бұрын
I just want to say TY for all the hard work this foundation does. We need you guys now more than ever. Thxs again.
@luckyPiston4 жыл бұрын
So is there a questionnaire out there somewhere that i can answer that will tell me what my ideology is based on my Social, political and religious etc ... answers ?
@MizumD4 жыл бұрын
Hey FFRF, thanks for the video. It would be very helpful if you could put all books mentioned in the video in the video description. Thanks and cheers!🎉
@kookamunga24584 жыл бұрын
I am lucky by default because I live in Canada . The churches here have alot of empty pews. The schools don't teach creationism only evolution but private schools do teach creationism. I only had two Jehovahs witnesses at my door in the last twenty years . There isn't any christian radio here . I hope that we can spread the athiesm down your way brother .
@guthrie_the_wizard3 жыл бұрын
Please do!
@doctorshell71184 жыл бұрын
This is a terrific conversation. I was reminded of the history of other political ideologies and where that typically goes.
@bobgilbert73624 жыл бұрын
At once a very important and very distressing discussion. There are a whole lot of citizens that strongly favor a Christian theocracy. Maybe, for them, a monarchy would be an acceptable substitute, as long as the monarch was a aggressive fundy?
@rudra624 жыл бұрын
Yes, and they pretend that monarch would rule with THEIR brand of Christianity. With 32,000 denominations... I have news for these people assuming they'd come out on top in this autocratic theocracy.
@TheFunGun54 жыл бұрын
And they have the audacity to be offended when you call them the American Taliban.
@johntracy724 жыл бұрын
Forget a dpg whistle. It's more like the Nostromo's self destruct system being activated.
@Kindertautenleider4 жыл бұрын
Such a good discussion, thankyou for this
@NN-wc7dl4 жыл бұрын
An extremely important convo!
@TobinTempleman4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite shows!
@donovanstanford73614 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, frightening data. Knowledge is power. Thanks for sharing this conversation.
@PreistofGHAZpork4 жыл бұрын
It's only power if we act on it
@harlannorris60354 жыл бұрын
There's a book out, " White to long ". It details the skewed gospel of white supremacy going back to the civil war. A friend of mine said the revolutionary war wasn't so much about the stated issues of illegal taxation, but that slavery had been abolished in Great Britton. My own experience with nationalism was that it was foundational in every church I attended. Pamphlets from Focus on the family and an emphasis on republican politics were present. I quickly realized that the churches were preaching a false doctrine that embraced the idolatry of politics. Of course, whenever I give a Christian witness, I'm often confronted with these iniquities. It's very hard to explain that this is not Christianity.
@joniredwingstone4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bring this to my attention. Very, very interesting discussion. I guess that's what I miss the most, we used to have discussions!
@wildcatste4 жыл бұрын
A good book to dovetail with this one is Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez. Basically she shows how the Christian nationalism we see today has a long history in America and didn't just start when Obama was elected. - Sincerely, a Christian who really appreciated this discussion.
@gaildobson6024 жыл бұрын
This was a great one; much enjoyed. The distinction of this type of 'Christian' was enlightening. My copy of the book is due tomorrow. I've had Andrew's for a while now. Fascinating, but not 'light reading', LOL.
@mikewinburn4 жыл бұрын
7:58 - the crux of this subject : Christian Nationalism is not the same as being Christian. Instead, its, as stated, "political theology that masquerades as religion; it uses christian language to disguise political designs". I've been trying to think of a way to describe this ethnocentric philosophy, and this video has hit the nail on the head. (Although i'd disagree "disguise" is the right word. I submit its more accurate to simply say the language enables the political affirmations.) What i don't know is if the authors are espousing that there's an sort of *sinister grand design* behind this...like a main christian nationalist group that came up with the ideas, depending on the naivety of the laity to adopt it 'simply as good followers' the way believers adopted whatever the church told them in the dark ages because they couldn't read. i don't believe there is a grand design at the top trying to create this sub-culture of christianity. I think, over time it just it transformed into this without a doubt...almost by natural result of a culture of "respecting the church leaders" - usually without questioning. (No argument from me if you'd like to disagree. And today, it's at it's worst. That we are here, is a fact. That it's having an adverse impact on the country's health is a fact. That it's a driving force behind a large percentage of the incumbent president's base, is a fact.
@lawlaw2953 жыл бұрын
If Jesus returned today, and could be crucified again, it will be the ppl who talk the most about Jesus, who will assassinate him, for trying to disrupt their theology.
@babewynbabewyn69624 жыл бұрын
What surprises me a little is that Prof. Perry suggests that this became a topic in 2016. Those of us who remember the 70s and 80s will remember that this stuff has been gaining traction palpably since the early 70s at the very latest. To name only one example where this became obvious; if you were involved in women's rights or LGBTIQ* activism for example at the time, some of your most vociferous and aggressive opponents were people like Anita Bryant and Phyllis Schlafly who were spinning the rhetoric of the John Birch Society and other radical Right think tanks. This stuff really took off and gained bourgeois respectability in 1980 after the election of Ronald Reagan. There has been nothing sudden about the rise of what has come to be referred to as "Christian Nationalism". (Nor have analysts on the Left ever ceased to point out Christian Nationalism's echos of various historical manifestations of Fascism.)
@wagonron4 жыл бұрын
Are there any studies on who the Christian nationalism ambassadors are in rural Central California: Bakersfield; Santa Maria; San Luis Obispo; Salinas; Modesto; Redding; Gold Country counties?
@scottbaldridge61484 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that in America there is a deep connection between Free market Capitalism and a general idea of Christian nationalism! Primarily Anarcho/Libertarianism Capitalism! A strange hybrid of almost extreme individualism,and Christianity! Underlying this is a resentment of the poor and egoism,which is opposed to Historical Christian ideas! I believe Chris Hedges has pointed this out!
@homeschoolingmadeeasy77984 жыл бұрын
Probably grew out of the Puritans who were later colonists who were very wealthy and super judgemental. Stuff like he who does not work shall not eat. Puritan towns usually had a workhouse where the poor had to stay and work for meager food and shelter
@007Aura4 жыл бұрын
Very good conversation👌🏾
@mikewinburn4 жыл бұрын
11:08 - i think the most important point here for those christian's caught up in this christian nationalism is the comment on political identity. He says, " more and more, young people considering considering christianity think,' if [this political identity] is what i will need to espouse and tie myself to by becoming a christian, then, NO THANKS'. I've been joining a lot of religious right posts supporting trump here on youtube trying to warn against this very fact. But, alas, they are so ingrained in this line of thinking that they cannot see it. They will simply tell you they are basing their view on scripture, and will use all sort of situational ethics to tell you why they support their view. So, good conversation here. I hope it somehow gets the message across to the right group of people who can be stretched by it and doesn't just create a reason for non Christians to practice discrimination or bigotry against these so called "christian nationalists".
@KainMalice4 жыл бұрын
Is there any way we could see this christian nationalism test? My parents sound like they could align on this, and I am curious to put them through it.
@BanzaiBenzai4 жыл бұрын
With RGB's passing, the last 5 minutes of this video are scary. The theoretical threat has realized itself.
@netpunk58904 жыл бұрын
This conversation was a great tool to illustrate some of the shifts I’ve been seeing, chiefly the non-religious Christian nationalist.
@henmaydostuff83383 жыл бұрын
I was not ready for that intro track lmao
@JulieHerrick3 жыл бұрын
Watching this in Feb 2021, and I just heard the line about "a few more judicial victories". I went to google to remind myself when RGB died. It was Sept 18, about a month after this episode was published.
@greglogan77064 жыл бұрын
I am a Christian theist and I abhore, hate and despise Christian nationalism which I don't call Christian nationalism but evangelo-fascism - much more accurate When the people came to make Jesus king he actually ran away.... I support FFRF - For their focus on human well being including freedom and truth.
@mk1st4 жыл бұрын
"He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy" 😂🤣
@kerryberger9853 жыл бұрын
Since we are in 2021, how has Christian Nationalism in terms of data collected changed with Trump losing the election and subsequent loss of Majority Rule by the GOP. What does FFRF think about this issue today? Is the situation any better, worse or about as appallingly the same???? I'd love to see an updated video on this subject of Christian Nationalism/theocratic Fascism? Excellent discussion. Very germane today in May 2021.
@bouldersoundguy4 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see sociology being used in a way that isn't the usual neutral (i.e. ineffectual) way.
@Maddie91854 жыл бұрын
Those checks and balances are being tested everyday. Ain’t that the truth.
@Piddeaux4 жыл бұрын
I wish you would include links to the books you mention. It would save us from having to go search for them.
@lynpotter64713 жыл бұрын
I did a double-take when they mentioned the Covid death toll--didn't realize the video was posted so long ago. Then he said the peak of the pandemic was in May 2020 or something. I wonder what his studies would look like now.
@LiquidReality904 жыл бұрын
Love this discourse! Only further cements my goal of studying sociology and eventually becoming a social worker.
@rayeregan81144 жыл бұрын
I would have liked them to leave the sources for this in the description box for easy fact checking. What you say makes sense and I nodded a lot, but I still would love to see some of the studies myself
@flarone4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Perry, my condolences to your co-author in Bowling Green. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the many victims, both imaginary and otherwise, that had to suffer during the Bowling Green Massacre.
@1MarkKeller3 жыл бұрын
I like how the guest (Samuel Perry) keeps peppering in the fact that this isn't just Christian Nationalism doing these things in this country, but it is indeed *White* Christian Nationalism.
@arturosalas72704 жыл бұрын
its not an audity that non christian nationalist religious people follow social distancing because real religious people's ideals are to not harm others. Real christianity and religious ideals are to love one's neighbor as we love ourselves and to "give to ceaser what belongs to ceasar", in other words; keep politics out of religioun and vice versa
@guthrie_the_wizard4 жыл бұрын
Super important that we contain to speak up and have these discussions!
@grmpEqweer4 жыл бұрын
I don't know about the "proto" part in proto-fascist.
@alexm09293 жыл бұрын
You need a well produced documentary to get these messages out there and one that works with pastors who understand both these dynamics and know what will speak to those in their congregations. Speaking as a Christian sickened by Trump.
@wagonron4 жыл бұрын
Smart show.
@lizardpieable2 жыл бұрын
So informative...great interview, provocative questions, succinct answers
@vylbird80144 жыл бұрын
Mississipi has a perfectly good state motto. But they didn't go with that one.
@-mattwood4 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that if you asked someone who scored high in the Christian Nationalist column if they were ostracized or marginalized or bullied during their schooling years - they would score high in that arena - or if you asked their dating experience during those same years - they would score low. It just a feeling that these people are the outcasts, the nerds, the unfortunates, the shunned, the lower caste of society that have a death wish for any kind of mutually beneficial society. They are the ones who didn't bring a handgun to school and kill anyone but who are now determined to burn everything down with their vote and their twisted sense of justice. Has anyone asked these questions of this group?
@markstuckey66394 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the test that determines the xtian nationalist index score?
@sagisdoodleverse96964 жыл бұрын
I’m an atheist. Will I burn in hell? I think I am. Guess I’ll be roasting marshmallows with Satan over the burning enemies of god.
@johntracy724 жыл бұрын
Y'all should listen to Voltaire's song God Thinks. That sums it up what you are discussing.
@melissapruitt6274 жыл бұрын
i grew up in the south around alot of these types..a big belief is that in the story of Cane and Able, Cane was black and Able white.This is a very old school southern belief that was used to justify the inequality.
@lawlaw2953 жыл бұрын
I heard that too, and many more. You should visit the ex-colonies in the Caribbean. The crazy things they would say to get black ppl to believe they deserved slavery, and should embrace it, be thankful for it, and encourage their children to embrace it. American slavery was mild compared to what went on in the far flung colonies. Try to suggest to them that Christians have great potential for evil (at least the same as anyone else) and they will say "those aren't real Christians, and only 1 in 1,000,000 'Christians' are like that." Now that American Christians have backed Trump, and many have shown racist colours, it is still crazy to think more than 1 in one million Christians can be evil.
@Tupelo9274 жыл бұрын
This interview was informative & illuminating. Unfortunately, the data confirms my suspicions & fears regarding a portion of my fellow citizens. I've been shocked & disappointed by the beliefs & desires of those closest to me. Frankly, it is increasingly difficult to keep despair at bay.
@shelbyschroder41404 жыл бұрын
Is their assessment anywhere online? I want to know if my conservative grandparents tainted me in anyway. I like to think of myself as a rejecter.
@koutschrono77703 жыл бұрын
Very informative about radical Christianity
@RobertDMoore4 жыл бұрын
well-thought-out
@annellewellyn55354 жыл бұрын
Yippee! Fewer Christian Nationalists!
@paulhubbard2523 жыл бұрын
That's why I think blind people have a edge on humanity it doesn't matter what colour people are or what they look like all that matters is how they come across the way all people should
@lifeisaadventure99484 жыл бұрын
The State and faith must stay separate
@leealexander35074 жыл бұрын
I'm still on lockdown in August. My adult children are too. It's hard to maintain social distancing with my own children. At least I can be outside enjoying the black stallion so I have companionship and I can touch him. Unfortunately my state hasn't peaked yet and I am old with a pre-existing condition.
@mk1st4 жыл бұрын
Good luck out there.
@chcknpie044 жыл бұрын
Great work!
@silentwhisper86334 жыл бұрын
Did any of your questions just come out and ask.... "Do you believe in DEMOCRACY?" That is what I want to hear. Also, " Do you believe in FREEDOM, to enjoy your life?"
@homeschoolingmadeeasy77984 жыл бұрын
nah, they'd say "we're not actually a democracy. We're a representative republic. We need to change education because people don't understand that." And I think they partly say that because they want to downplay the word Democrat and upraise Republican
@MrMEGSWONETWOTHREE4 жыл бұрын
Why is this not being named specifically in the national discourse? Also, if my neighbor has a massive Trump sign and cut out on his lawn in combo it’s a pro life sign with pic Jesus nestling a little baby, is it safe to assume they are a Christian Nationalist? I also have another neighbor with a a Trump Sign, Confederate Flag and lit up cross all plastered on their property is it safe to say they are a Christian Nationalist. And are Christian Nationalists essentially white supreme it’s? And I live in a state well known as being liberal.