The Evangelical Divide Over Religion in Politics

[@VICENews]

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[@MightyCrazy]

Having pictures of Trump in Churches was the final straw for me.

[@raygrant9768]

Tell them Evilvangelcal to move to f.......en Israel

[@edgepixel8467]

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[@eddybrevet6816]

The enemies of god is theirs too, I suppose, they sure cause hell on earth

[@mola55e5]

If you give out “voter guides” at church, the church should lose their tax exempt status.

[@roostersideburns3440]

they slyly get away with it by not callling them voter guides theyre just handing out information.

[@edgepixel8467]

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[@MsEKN]

Exactly!

[@karikling8812]

The only way I'd support handing out voter information at church is if they handed out accurate, unbiased information on both sides, not this brainwashing bs they hand out.

[@Artman1]

I think Jesus would throw them out of the Temple.

[@povnw8985]

War is young people dying and old people talking. - Franklin D. Roosevelt

[@unrealbot3027]

Boomers *

[@magavsdeepstate2095]

Okay and what are you doing about it Lmaoo

[@povnw8985]

@@magavsdeepstate2095; I do whatever I can, whenever I can, however I can.

[@Spider-Too-Too]

@@magavsdeepstate2095 i fap to anime hentai and use anti depressing drugs ,so im unqualified for military service.

[@g.a.c.6488]

This video is from 2018

[@sjenkin1]

Politicians using peoples religious beliefs to manipulate their vote, can't get more meta than that.

[@polite_as_fuck]

Yeah, it’s funny how the left is often derided for playing identity politics when that’s precisely what this is.

[@purpandorange]

Better than voting for disgusting leftists who want to bankrupt the country and flood the it with the third world

[@sjenkin1]

@@purpandorange 🤦‍♂️

[@stephensonjoe]

purpandorange you are one of the brainwashed people who believe the rights sillyness. Let that hate out of your heart and open your mind to new ideas. Oh yeah, and turn off Fox News

[@purpandorange]

@@sjenkin1 Cry more

[@jimtuv]

I am in my mid 50's and left the evangelical church a few years ago because of all of the politics and the fact that they forgot the main reason they exist. Love your neighbor, Love your enemy, give your money to the poor and follow. Instead, they despise the poor, attack the downtrodden and seek riches and political power. I eventually questioned everything and freed myself from this horrible group and their twisted mindset. Now I call myself a secular humanist and reject evangelicalism. The church is dying from the inside.

[@mateorome]

I don't wanna assume about you but i imagine your also a white man? Before i offend anyone im only asking because as a Mexican catholic i see many evangelicals are white and Im curious if that's coincidence or convient. I'll be first to admit Catholics, especially Mexican catholic are far from perfect followers of christ. But something about white evangelicals gives me pause, from what I've heard they seem very much invested in the world and earthly power. I have had moments of doubt about doctrine but never my Lord God, but when i hear these"Christians" preach it rings so fake and hollow. I wonder if alot of them actually have Faith in Jesus Christ

[@Abitibidoug]

I still don't get this idea of so called Christians being associated with far right politics. I would think a true Christian would be more left leaning with, as James said above, loving your neighbour and helping out the poor.

[@universome511]

James you just went from one church to another. "Secular Humanist" is more radical of a religion then any evangelical church.

[@stevenbatke4167]

@@Abitibidoug that’s the irony of being brought up Christian. With all the love-thy-neighbour, help-the-poor-type messaging, and then being told that government policies that might be slightly socialist leaning are of the devil. Let’s get our message straight.

[@joemed02]

@@universome511 the word secular freaks out any conservative. Its not as radical, not even close to the evangelical caucus brother.

[@LL.Johnson]

When you're already in a cult... It's very easy to devote yourself to a con man.

[@reverendblkgrape1]

Terrible - One 💯

[@78625amginE]

Preach!! Er, wait 🤔 Amen!!....Dammit. Yay!

[@hambone4984]

Damn, that's a good one

[@ninaviggs3781]

excellent expression ! should be used as an identifier phrase

[@FemFantastic2.0]

He is just riding the wave.

[@danielb200]

i guess the love of christ doesn’t apply to immigrants...

[@ismth]

John Keels yup thriving off fear sadly. Like nobody is out to get you despite what Fox News says relax

[@3345646]

There is legal immigration you know. I suppose you would open the flood gates.

[@BeGlamourlicious]

And women and black people and non believers, and Muslims and natives and ......

[@Sam-bw4pg]

Christ only loves rich white people

[@yaelB9467]

Exactly

[@romaniangamer1]

As a Christian, this looks a lot like idolatry (big sin). The Republican party is not God's right hand on earth, same applies for Democrats too.

[@dogestranding5047]

Catholics and other Christians will find a way to spin it as not being idolatry.

[@romaniangamer1]

@@dogestranding5047 Maybe, but let's not divide each other with this stuff. Remember what Paul said about choosing to side with Apollo or Paul or whoever else? This just divides people

[@zabas2]

hello looney

[@deliriousmysterium8137]

Just drop the faith and have an opinion.

[@deliriousmysterium8137]

@Pablo as a human you believe like a human

[@chiefsoap]

I'm sure these tactics have nothing to do the steady decline in religious affiliation in the US.

[@Mamagr5l66]

*drips sarcasm* 😉

[@magavsdeepstate2095]

What are you doing about it

[@oOKitty86Oo]

@@magavsdeepstate2095 Well, seeing as we'll be around longer than majority of them, we don't have to do shit. Just let them die, and their shitty ideologies with them. Time is our side. Not Trumps or his supporters.

[@waladoopa2667]

I'm not from America but is Christianity really dieing in the US like it is in the Europe?

[@LegionKilo]

@@waladoopa2667 Yes. As the education of American's increase and as women walk out of the dark that Christianity keeps them in, as more and more American's become aware that the church congregation is just as fallible as anyone else, as the community becomes aware that the church needs more money for the building fund, but doesn't ever build a soup kitchen, as the denizens more fully understand the tax relief the mega corporation churches receive, but don't life a finger to bring the pews out of poverty, the more "woke" people get, the more they see it as nothing but a scam.

[@MrCaku]

"What cultural changes that you're seeing in our country concern you?" "The vagina hats."

[@J8M17]

MrCalisce what is a “vagina hat”?

[@Turok1134]

I had to come in here to check that I wasn't hearing things.

[@pacotaco5526]

🤣😹

[@Beltainerose13]

@@J8M17 exactly this is the comment or question I was looking for , never heard that phrase before ..

[@msoda8516]

That made me laugh

[@ArashiVeronicaCesana]

This Chandler guy is the most sane person I've ever seen associated with a megachurch. I hope his voice carries.

[@micahmatthew7104]

He's legit a good guy, he may be a conservative but he's not blind to Trump ungodliness and has criticized him on that.

[@anothernicoleborninthe80s7]

Let’s not forget he’s still Pro-life, anti-lgbt, and thinks certain things are restricted to men. When someone shows you who they are... believe them.

[@ChristopherJones16]

@@anothernicoleborninthe80s7 uh huh? So he's a good quality American then is what you're saying... Pro-Life, Anti-LGBT, certain things restricted to men... the way things were and should always be. Anyone who objects to that in America is a Marxist and needs to be drawn and quartered.

[@3345646]

It’s not easy being the salt (preservative) of the earth. It seems to me Matt chandler is trying to reach the world by becoming like the world. Then the world Will turn on him.

[@ED-fq3xw]

@@3345646 what is the alternative? Being intense ultra orthodox Christians, rigid, strict, and non complacent? That doesn't bring anyone to Christianity. At least the dude is making an effort by seeming reasonable and easy going

[@grimx5772]

The founding fathers supported separation of religion and state for a reason. Hence why you would never find any religious references in the U.S constitution.

[@Ironpancakemoose]

So the government wouldn't use a religious institution to control its population.

[@lamarmcalister2449]

@@Ironpancakemoose you do realize all of the founding fathers were Christians and left England for the reason to have religious freedom.

That was a mistake!

[@CB-db1qx]

@@lamarmcalister2449 Incorrect. Many of the Founding Father's were agnostics or dieists. Not Christians per se. This is well documented

[@wretchedwringer]

@@CB-db1qx essentially they were one tribe.

[@cd4953]

The ironic part is, as much as they wanted to hear Pence speak a year ago when this video was made, if you asked those people today what they thought about Pence, they'd probably call him a traitor.

[@angeliaparker-savage5401]

I don't understand how these people can talk about "the love of Christ' and deplore "the nastiness and threats on a public stage" while at the same time supporting someone who doesn't have the first and routinely engages in the second.

[@jaames]

‘faith-based voters’ the most ridiculous three-word combination ever conceived since the dawn of time.

[@overandout6422]

How can they support a thrice married conman that raw-dogs porn stars? SMDH

[@edmichaelalobog8886]

over and out when u vote you don’t reallly care about the personal life of that person. If it goes down to Trump or Hillary, and if one guy supports your cause more than the other then what option do you choose?

[@_Atzin]

I feel like faith based voters should pick who to vote for completely randomly so as not to interfere with "gods plan"

[@_Atzin]

@@edmichaelalobog8886 I guess over and out is trying to point out that due to religions focus on exactly how people should behave, if you are a faith based voter it doesnt make a lot of sense to vote for someone who acts so much in opposition to how your faith says they should.

[@gramajcatherder8133]

Exactly - sick enough to support corruption and a monster who cages children of color, and just ordered the top general in Iran to be taken out for no real reason. But, yet, these people of faith are empty and need to be told what to think. It's sickening.

[@andreashabeck1155]

They say that they don't align themselfs with any political party, yet they have mike pence speak at their convention. What?

[@JayHelms]

Exactly.

[@alexphoenix9208]

Doubt they would have invited Barack to speak. ;)

[@andreashabeck1155]

@@alexphoenix9208 how about them not inviting a prominent politician?

[@alexphoenix9208]

@@andreashabeck1155 Don't disagree. The goal is to separate Church and State. ;) Now if only we could actually do that, as well as separate Business and State.

[@jwcarroll6378]

Instead of being lead by the faith of Christ, most are motivated by fear of change.

[@eyelavendarshine461]

JW 100 percent agree

[@okimawilcox1550]

Gerald Mack I’m a bible thumping Jesus freak, but I actually read it so I can easily see how Trump is not a Christian, these people are being used and having their fear stoked. They know squat about the “love of Christ”

[@wesleygordon1645]

Discerning bad change is is being lead by the HOLY SPIRIT !

[@okimawilcox1550]

Wesley Gordon if you could discern bad change, you’d have seen it in Trump from the start and we wouldn’t be in this mess now. And you can spare me the “he’s done more than any other president” garbage because unless you have Jeff Bezos money, he hasn’t done a thing for you

[@ALBIZURES]

Extreme political correct policies is the main reason many voted for trump

[@jackmen4]

Joining church with politics is something dangerous.

[@KarnageKhaos]

Politics is a religion

[@jackmen4]

KarnageKhaos exactly why America separated from the Catholics during the revolution.

[@colvillemarshall3768]

It’s worse than dangerous. Look at any Muslim county run by religion, and just remember what the Roman Catholic Church did in the dark ages, not too long ago.

[@willdaugherty2842]

BINGO!

[@KathrynLee5456]

And unconstitutional

[@hunterpopkin8370]

Evangelical overrepresention makes them the most organized voting Bloc in the country

[@Mamagr5l66]

To have such blocs should be illegal. Sheep cannot think for themselves, they vote for who they are told.

[@MrDavidBFoster]

It pays to advertise.

[@_robustus_]

Monster Mash The Fash More so than corporate interests?

[@MrDavidBFoster]

@@chromal Actually, they DO have a right, and the 200 million you mentioned are apparently stupid enough to fight for it.

[@hunterpopkin8370]

@@_robustus_ in a sense they are a corporate interest but with faith instead of finance. They use their religion to organize themselves into an encompassing term associated with their politics, "Evangelicals".

[@fivegoldstar6811]

VICE needs to keep up with this sort of journalism. This is the type of news I want from VICE

[@antigonemerlin]

I like how the journalists let the people speak for themselves and really engage with them instead of doing gotcha journalism.

[@judithgash1845]

Keep religion out of the government and politics...

[@wesleygordon1645]

True faith in God should go hand in hand with good politics!

[@thomasmaxwell954]

@@wesleygordon1645 Never, the government should not force religion on anyone

[@tammyt8306]

I agree that there was a lot of underhanded dealings between government and religion especially during Christendom, however one day it will be a THEOCRACY and King Jesus will be the President, the Ambassador, the Governor, the Mayor, all that! When we say “No Jesus in politics/government, no Jesus in our schools, our laws, or our country please!” ..it’s really a reflection of our heart and our thinking we can do better in this life than He can. If you know Jesus to be the Way, the Truth and the Life and NO ONE gets to the Father but through Him, then you wouldn’t want it any other way, because you also want His righteousness to exalt our nation. If you’re not on the same page then I understand why you wouldn’t agree.

[@ConvictedFelon2024]

_"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."_ ~ Voltaire

[@cjwhite2631]

Like abortion? Baby murder and sacrifice in a doctors office

[@xxsknnylgndxx8548]

If I can thank my parents for anything, it’s raising me without religion & not forcing me into one

[@monkeyman321]

On the contrary I thank my parents for raising me as evangelical so I could realize first hand how shitty, sick and wicked they are.

[@leoak]

You were so lucky.

[@youisstupid2586]

@@leoak well, well, well hating Islam huh brother Hussein?

[@stephensonjoe]

Diego so sorry to hear you are brainwashed and can’t get out of the situation. There’s hope for you if you just simply question the bullshit you were taught, and have faith in yourself. You’re stronger than your religion teaches you. I know I was, and life is better when living in reality.

[@ab_2367]

@@monkeyman321 Same here. Raised muslim and its that upbringing, inside experience and studying of the religion that made me go "Yeeeeeaaah nah"

[@brandonblanco8379]

Most conservatives complain about Hollywood liberals but they never complain about the decay of Separation of church, even though it’s in the constitution.

[@Michael-jq5pf]

One benefits them, the other doesn't

[@farkasabel]

Because most conservatives are no related to these evangelical delusionals.

[@Spider-Too-Too]

@@Michael-jq5pf politician can benefit shit tones from hollywood. Social feedback, social conditioning, lite propaganda........the more we rely on digital product, the more we get brainwashed by media company. But i guess the right just lost the grip in hollywood.

[@derekderekison3241]

Would you prefer Islam and sharia law?

[@Overquoted]

@@Michael-jq5pf It absolutely benefits them. Your attitude is pretty typical of the left, unfortunately, which is why separation of church and state is seen as a religious vs anti/non-religious problem. But it was originally conceived in response to governments telling people what faith they were allowed to have. It was designed *for* religious people, not in spite of them. James Madison was hugely influential in this and he was pretty furious upon learning that Virginia had imprisoned two Baptist preachers for their religious views. Taking the view that separation has no benefit for religious adherents is both incorrect and, frankly, terribly erosive to the doctrine. No Christian wants to be told what sect they are allowed to belong to, when or how to pray, etc. Even the big issue some evangelicals voters talk about, prayer in school, can be discussed in a way that many would agree with the left on it. If you're Baptist but live somewhere in which the school's officials are primarily Catholic, Mormon, Jewish, etc, you are probably not going to want those officials to demand your children participate in the prayers those officials lead. I'm pretty left-wing but it completely and utterly appalls me how so many people on the left just want to abandon the discussion of religion. We've essentially ceded a pretty large voting bloc to the right when a lot of leftist positions are completely in line with Christian beliefs. At the very least, if we bothered to discuss things in a less avoidant or antagonist way, we could undermine some of the right's positions on important things. Take immigration. There is a lot of text in the Bible discussing how to treat travelers and non-natives. None of it says, 'throw them in cages and take their children.' Or look at programs aimed at the poor. Providing for the less fortunate is *everywhere* in the Bible. One of Jesus's biggest miracles was feeding the hungry. How does that jive with a 'fend for themselves' ethos, particularly for those Christians who think the government should act in accordance with their faith?

[@kanskejonasidag1]

As a non-american christian, this is so confusing to me. I only know one thing. Donald Trump is NOT a very Jesus-like figure...

[@popcorn8153]

Most evangelicals are old boomers who sinned in their youth and are trying to redeem themselves by dragging the US into a theocratic state. They aren't acting out of a love of Jesus' teachings but by a fear of the wrath of God. overall, they are self righteous

[@mr.hibster9603]

he isnt but his policies are less evil than the rest of them thats why they vote. Its just left hating facts

[@simonhadley8829]

As an atheist watching these "divided" evangelicals try to convince each other that their side is right all I can say is they are ALL delusional.

[@Qharisma]

The pastor who spoke of confusion is soooo right .... I'm so confused when I meet an "evangelical" ... I can't determine if they love God or Racism more ....

[@junawallace7315]

That guy, Pastor Kell, used to be one of my pastors. He definitely loves the racism which is why it's so weird to see him here

[@curtisthomas2670]

Never forget that the South's Bible Belt was also the Lynching Belt and one of the most dangerous times for blacks in the South was just after church service when a white congregation had been whipped into a murderous frenzy over some perceived offence by blacks

[@MrDavidBFoster]

the scariest thing I ever heard was walking into my mom's church on the Sunday before 4th of July, and hearing the Star Spangled Banner played on a 150 year old pipe organ. It was like a scene straight out of a Dracula movie!

[@senoadjiaditya1535]

😂😂

[@longforgotten4823]

David Foster ritual and practice replaced by nationalism and heresy.

[@MrDavidBFoster]

@@longforgotten4823 There's a difference?

[@longforgotten4823]

David Foster according to Gavin Hyman, yes there is a difference. There is a right way and a wrong way to practice Christianity and what is listed in this video has been rejected since the early church.

[@MrDavidBFoster]

@@longforgotten4823 There's a right way to practice a lie? _I did not know that!_

[@ZZ-sb8os]

When you have the VICE PRESIDENT addressing your convention...it's time to end the charade and start paying taxes. That's the deal, religion, remember?! You stay the HELL out of politics, and you therefore get to get away with not paying your fair share in taxes.

[@nabii5951]

Christian here: I would take it a step further. Any institutions that turn a profit should pay taxes. I don't care who they are, and I don't care what your status is, you turn a profit, you pay taxes.

[@curtisthomas2670]

lt didn't even make them stop and think why so much present voted against it they just pushed on ahead

[@F22onblockland]

*Iranian Theocracy exists* Evangelical Christians “We may be about to start a war with them but those Persians were on to something!”

[@kamenidriss]

That's generally what happens when your adversary is chanting death to your country

[@neeneko]

Why do you think they hate Iran so much? Not only does Iran have a theocracy while they are being thwarted by the godless, but it is the wrong religion! It hurts their little racist hearts so much.

[@ioiuhbg7908]

SSH-40 I’m evangelical christian and I’m ashamed with what my sisters and brothers think is Christianity . The republicans made them to be afraid of witches! Dark Middle Ages again!!! Wake up people!!! Our Lord taught us about love, not hate!!!

[@shway1]

@@kamenidriss that's generally what heppens when you impose a dictator on a country, and severe sanctions, and openly talk about nuking them for decades.

[@thechef.]

lol

[@ditty365]

Didn't Jesus say he is no part of this world? Politics would be total opposite right ?

[@LivinFree-st1rd]

He sure did 👍

[@michaelt.5672]

Yup. Christians should always consider themselves to be the equivalent of foreigners when it comes to politics. Either stay out of it, or only engage in it without applying your own interests and values. A foreigner who tries to influence your politics in the interests of their own country gives that country a bad name. Same goes for christians who try to inject their own values into politics. The sad thing is, the original anabaptist movement (out of which a lot of current evangelical churches come) recognised this a long time before secularism was a thing. But in the US, it seems many have lost that sense.

[@Iceburg0032]

Jesus said.. "Give to ceaser what is Ceaser's and give to God what is God's".

[@12presspart]

yes render to god what is god render to ceaser what is ceasers

[@SmllrOutsde]

As somebody who ran a non-profit field office and spent years doing door-to-door community organizing, I can say with confidence that this person has no idea how to train people to community organize door-to-door

[@ilovemeanltty1]

So sad and disgusting that people are brought up this way with no alternative ways of thinking.

[@zephyr3332]

So you think there is something disgusting and sad about a person being brought up with traditional Christian views and values? Wow you sure have one confusing opinion care to explain?

[@shway1]

@@zephyr3332 yes it's disgusting that they think outsiders deserve eternal hell, and that's putting it mildly. the jerusalem thing is based total lunacy, they know it's evil yet they still support it to being about the end of the world, and that brings us to all the insane beliefs like noah's ark and adam&eve.

[@shway1]

@@zephyr3332 I see half a reply in my inbox but none here. maybe you deleted your comment in shame? you say it's people choice not to believe as if that somehow makes it better. how can you live with yourself believing your god sends people to hell for having the wrong beliefs? and don't give me that BS about people "choosing" hell. who created this fascist system in the first place?

[@zephyr3332]

@@shway1 Well I'm not god I am a human being so people being sent to hell will never weigh on my conscience because I am not responsible for that. Like I stated previously people will make their own choices and Christ doesn't force you we are all God's children but unfortunately many people choose not to believe. Just because you don't believe in your lifetime your damned to hell? No you have all your life to change your ways and have your soul saved. I wouldn't wish hell on anyone because it's forever.... burning flames, filth, violent creatures. So that is why if you have a chance so save your soul and choose god then do it because once your in hell you can't be saved because it is already to late. Do YOURSELF a favor and choose god save your soul from hell because believe me hell is not enjoyable in the slightest it is pure torment forever.

[@cindyqueen7228]

It is. But those trapped in it don't see it that way.

[@emberducati9237]

I’m a Christian. We need to start to “render to Caesar what is Ceasar’s, and give to God what is God’s.” Basically, we the Church need to pay taxes. We are a part of the community and should contribute.

[@JackBQuick79]

I feel like religion is holding society back from evolving and promoting mental illness.

[@tvtherapy655]

Depends on how it’s practiced, not a religious person myself but those who practice for themselves and don’t seek to politicize it and promote mental health and actual peace do exist and they deserve to have the freedom to practice it in a non harmful way

[@christiansoldier77]

@@tvtherapy655 Religion is politics and politics is religion. Why is that so hard to understand

[@vanislekid]

Man oh man, these people are broken from the inside.

[@sunnylilme]

Is the not similar to sharia law concept? Historically, religion and politics dont mix. Our founding fathers knew tgat

[@leoinsf]

When religion is involved in politics, this is directly counter to the separation of Church and State! The Bible Belt does not speak for me no matter what!

[@mannyverse6158]

Out of everything happening in the world, imagine only caring about abortion and gays

[@CB-db1qx]

They are single issue voters

[@nathandrake4803]

Yes you sure They should be serious in topic like : Poverty, Education, Satanism, Ideologies, Culture, Mental health, Immigration, Terrorist, Fruit of the Holy Spirit practice, teenage life, Catastrhope, ongoing war, Family life, divorce rate, Drug..

[@PartnershipsForYou]

Yeah but see, those Christians REALLY hate abortions and gays. So clearly they are in the right. /s

[@danschoenharl3856]

"For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." 2Timothy 1:7 We don't ever have to choose evil. I choose love.

[@deliriousmysterium8137]

I learned that without believing the unfiltered ignorance of early men.

[@danschoenharl3856]

@@deliriousmysterium8137 , I learned that from the Son of Man.

[@scotishjohn]

$$$$$$$$$$$

[@angeladoll9785]

That guy at 9:30 totally gets it. He has a better grasp on what happened than most pundits, that's for sure. I love his response about Trump's morality too 🤣

[@goldeneagle3088]

Religion should not be included in politics or even the state.

[@fjf6050]

Great reporting. Nice to see a balanced representation of evangelical views. While i disagree with most of their main views and beliefs its good to get a better understanding of their point of view. This helped, thanks.

[@jonholbrook8821]

This was incredibly enlightening and provided a perspective of evangelism I wasn't aware existed. And remained objective. Great reporting VICE - we need more like this!

[@davidasiimwe9906]

This piece is relatively well balanced and not overly critical. Great piece.

[@JW-zl5ju]

"There's a world filled with people going to hell"... that's a bit too much😂

[@amandaimes894]

I know:( It's overwhelming, but that's the sinful world we live in

[@MrDavidBFoster]

Not if you consider that we might already be there...

[@_robustus_]

Boogy boogy boogy ! Muah ha ha ha !

[@longforgotten4823]

Amanda Imes The World is the sinful dark wood. I think Christians should go back to the roots and proclaim everyone is destined for heaven but some stray.

[@BothHands1]

David Foster i'm almost certain we're already in hell.

[@starlight6152]

The delusion is high with these ones.

[@Zugzug386]

Thank you for that story, I am an Atheist with left to center leaning politics and it is useful to get a bit of insight into other perspectives. Out of the folks in this story I hope the last gentleman is right that the more angry violent side of evangelicalism fades as I have a feeling individuals like him are more likely to have reasonable conversations rather than repeat rhetoric.

[@Dr_JSH]

8:42 This is SO WRONG. Elected officials must be faithful to the Constitution, not a particular set of religious proscriptions and prescriptions. This offends Americanism and Christianity.

[@cmilla111]

The last speakers actually seemed pretty intelligent and open-minded.

[@michaelt.5672]

Depends on what you mean by open-minded. I'm sure he still has fairly conservative values, he just doesn't want to politicise them. Values like that have to be chosen if they are to mean anything, you can't impose them on others (as christians shouldn't judge others). At least that's how it works for me, being a christian who is conservative as far as personal values go, but pretty far left on the political spectrum.

[@zombiewarking]

separation of church and state was never meant to abolish religion from the public sphere of influence

[@Otis1194]

Growing up atheist, I can only keep thanking my parents that I wasn't taught these delusional ideologies

[@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia]

‘murica loves them some Jeebus

[@maxinvasionleet]

@Nick Trybull dont worry you will bow.

[@dd-ez3im]

@Nick Trybull Most scientists are religious. In fact most intellectuals are. Usually its pseudo intellectuals and ofcourse people with low intellect that deny the existance of God ... bruh

[@PartnershipsForYou]

d d uh what? Most scientists are atheists. I thought lying was against god? Lul

[@dd-ez3im]

@Nick Trybull You would regret what you said if you did a bit of research.

[@dd-ez3im]

@Nick Trybull Trust me , you are not lol. Facts ;) . I am a scientist lol. Sorry you dont know how the universe works :). Scroll up to read what i said about pseudo intellectuals ;)

[@jagotiberan2181]

When the guy was talking about the battle at Megiddo, I stopped, and literally went to read the whole book of Revelation 1 to 22 over two hours or so. Funny. I didn’t read ANYTHING about Russia, Iran, Ethiopia etc (or anything that even comes close to them being associated) coming down to take Israel or that this grand battle took place after Israel gains all of its biblical era territory back. In fact, the gathering of three entities at Megiddo, and the event where an angel comes down to kill a bunch of armies aren’t actually the same events: they occur in two different parts of the book. The event where the angel kills everyone doesn’t even mention a location, actually. It’s crazy how just a quick, single-sitting reading of the text really just shows a man (John) writing a letter of prophecy and warning to a group of seven churches he knew during that day. Revelation 1 starts with what he writes to each individual church, and the last chapter Rev. 22 says “I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.” Personally, I don’t even really think that book has anything to do with the end times and is more about admonishments to whatever local churches he knew in that era. Oh well, I’m atheist so wth do I know? 🤷🏼‍♂️ But seems like it’d be kind of a big deal if evangelicals want to bring about the whole f***ing Apocalypse based on what’s clearly not even suggested anywhere in their holy book’s actual f***ing text!!

[@jjthomas2297]

How can you be “Pro Life” and support the death penalty? Support endless wars? How can you be “For the children” yet be against things like free school lunches for poor kids in school? How can you be “Compassionate” yet support incarcerating millions of non violent offenders? These people aren’t religious...just seeking company in their hatred

[@mikejohnson2173]

To answer your question, I think because people compartmentalize their beliefs. Fear plays a large role in my humble opinion in shaping their views. When any group feels "under attack" as the mega church pastor mentioned because things are "changing too fast" people get overly anxious and are less willing to acknowledge and accommodate other ideas. They generally dig their heels in while shouting "enough". Not that this is me, but I've seen it with some ultra conservative Christian groups and I have friends on both sides of the political aisle.

[@axt2]

While we’re at it, will Vice do a video about the influence of Judaism on US politics?

[@farkasabel]

What about islam?

[@manlyprime4087]

Che MeGusta lmao how does Islam influence American politics when America is literally ruining Muslim majority countries?

[@alexandrub8786]

@@manlyprime4087 saud influence?

[@farkasabel]

@@manlyprime4087 at least 10% of murica's war industry is in saudi hands.

[@DixieFaukner]

L

[@mellowhigh491]

That pastor made a great point when he said that city democrats often think the country is more progressive than it is. Different people have different opinions and that must be recognized. Also, #YangGang.

[@CrownMeKing22]

#humanityfirst

[@jeffwhitney3369]

says the Christian who tries to force their opinions down everyone's throats!!!!!!!

[@Arrwmkr]

Totally Yang gang, pity America isn't ready for an Asian president. As a progressive I agree that city dems falsely assume everyone sees the world that way. Although one year on, they probably got the message as middle of the road Joe was selected

[@biggigunz43]

This made me nauseously disgusted

[@magavsdeepstate2095]

biggigunz43 what are you doing about it

[@__soap__]

Why? Are you some kind of wimp?

[@sherly7870]

May It be the Christian Republic of United States

[@aroyaleable]

@@__soap__ no because of this kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3yvh3yjbLZjf7M

[@mt-zf6xp]

Every church I went to growing up urged its congregation to vote Republican. I don't see how churches can do that and still be exempt from taxes.

[@StayCalm-og8fo]

The music feels like apocalypse

[@ruinnaimperii4686]

The Aryan Valley That is what these loonies want as soon as possible

[@MrAlisted619]

I swear we had alien neighbours in our galaxy. They saw what kind of species we are and they dipped the whole galaxy.

[@mastersonogashira1796]

I like the last interview, at least I now know there are good evangelicals

[@lesmatheson6001]

My father was a Baptist preacher -- at least as sanctimonious and self-righteous as anyone in this video. It was only when his cult kidnapped and tortured his estranged family to bring them back to God that the world beyond his echo chamber began to understand the quiet dark current that runs under his kind of tribal thinking. I shudder listening to this video: the horror of purity of faith should scare everyone who knows that usually there's ugliness under the frosting. If your faith "tells you who you are", then what you see in the mirror isn't real.

[@Elisa-mg3rc]

Interesting how evangelicals feel threatened by other people's personal lives. How does same-sex marriage for example affect their faith? "Religious freedom" without the hypocrisy basically means "Let's take other people's personal choices away and force them to live according to our religious moral rules"

[@tvtherapy655]

Exactly

[@NajwaLaylah]

This showed up in my KZbin notifications as "Vice News uploaded: The Evangelical Christian Takeover of U.S. Politics"; the only problem I have with that label is that the evangelicals took it over long ago.

[@Prometheushighaf]

3:01 their view of the Americans and how they reply using manipulative preplanned wording for their own gain. Nothing out of the ordinary here in the land of the free home of the brave

[@Prometheushighaf]

"what you want" 3:01 ... Not you

[@arunima29]

Handmaid's tale doesn't seem far-fetched anymore!

[@shadowdrift5574]

To experience it for yourself, move to Saudi Arabia or Iran.

[@arunima29]

@@shadowdrift5574 I don't have to. In a few years US will become the Christian version of Saudi Arabia or Iran. I can experience it right at home.

[@ilovemeanltty1]

They've been doing this shit for decades

[@alexandrub8786]

Well the hole Goliath state was made because of a bunch of feminist terrorist attacks so it never was far from reallity.

[@vickiecordon7887]

@@ilovemeanltty1 I guess they have more today to shove a theocracy into people's throats in the United States. Very disturbing.

[@christiansoldier5782]

mile marker 4:33 this the Blind Leading the Blind its Hard being Awake and Knowing the Truth.

[@kathyjones274]

The church that passes out anything political should be paying taxes

[@RedDirtAlleyPhotography]

"The Family" 🙄

[@melissarflores5749]

truth!!!!!!!!

[@evaroop8045]

Organized religion stay out of politics. Separation of church and state. Help the needy.

[@latamd9201]

0:19 when you complain about hijab and your nuns have ones

[@direktive4]

no one's "forcing" anyone to change their mind by making abortion legal, anyone who disagrees is free to disagree and if they don't want to get abortions they don't have to. evangelicals on the other hand wish to force women to have births regardless of the circumstances.

[@AmyLou733]

Matt puts forward the most balanced views of any evangelical i have ever heard. And that's really saying something

[@JayHelms]

Great job, Gianna. I am really glad you found Matt Chandler. He and Erwin McManus offer the enduring Evangelical perspective, not the rest of the people in the video.

[@ericslaimshow]

If we took all these people off the earth we'd be so further ahead in the world

[@D76straight]

when's this segment from? i remember hearing the "what concerns you?" "vagina hats"

[@curtisthomas2670]

7:08 choosing the lesser evil is STILL CHOOSING EVIL. What hypocrisy. He just loved Trump's message, ashamed to say it openly.

[@kazkk2321]

Religion is inevitably political. One must take a side either way

[@joem5386]

"Jerusalem was great. That was huge." For whom? America? Plzzz...

[@Emperor.Penguin.]

there is no such thing as separation of church and state in the U.S.

[@bad444]

I saw that church in The Righteous Gemstones on HBO.

[@eyelavendarshine461]

S Charles HA! Lol Lol

[@davidgoff357]

What part of Separation of church and state do they not understand.

[@mrjemes1597]

Religion and politices related with each other. Religion should higher than politices not politices should higher than religion.

[@BAMndza]

Is this the new trailer for The Handmaid's Tale?

[@Mamagr5l66]

It may as well be. Smh

[@farkasabel]

In handmaid tale the society is dying a slow death as only a handful is capable for reproduction. Of course the society collapses into a regressive form.

[@quincyquincy4764]

07:07 choosing the lesser evil is still evil.

[@BLACKLIGHT_NL]

3:53 wait the what.... what did she just... please can someone explain?

[@DaveTan65]

I googled it. Gonna buy one

[@BLACKLIGHT_NL]

@@DaveTan65 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@headlightbandit8618]

If they want to stray into politics it's time to tax these churches.

[@Polska699c]

Faith and Freedom are polar opposites. Any student of history knows the more religious a nation is, the less freedom there will be for those not in line with the religion. Look to the Arab nations, African nations and both historically and currently with many European states.

[@catiex8826]

Good Documentary! As a person of Jewish faith myself, can your next video cover how well my people are doing in the government and court system 🤗 33% of the supreme court is jewish even though we make up less than 2% of the US population 🐰 we are also doing really well in finance as half of the top 10 wealthiest americans are jewish and about 1/3 of the top richest 400 in america 😛😛😛

[@SoRAnubis]

ok incel

[@dadamdevil]

Eat the rich

[@SusanDianeHowell]

They have an advantage in how they recognize and deal with fear: Self-sabotage, Fight, Retreat and Learned Helplessness.

[@john_Reilly2027]

I was going to join the evangelical church but then decided to join the Satanic Temple. I think I made the sane decision

[@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim]

Amen 😂

[@UFOCurrents]

Force churches to PAY TAXES! 🇺🇸

[@DahVoozel]

Evangelical Christians supported Trump over other candidates who were more qualified and less divisive. This was never about policy or politics, it is about grievance and Christian victimhood.

[@vonsuthoff]

*When Christians mix their religion with politics, they choose sides and they become concerned with the ways of this world.* *...And they move away from what God has instructed them... Love ALL of his children... no matter their religion, their sexual orientation or the color of their skin. To "hate" any of these things is to ignore the teachings of Christ.*

[@seandevine5836]

I can't think of a more perfect metaphor for America than a church in a shopping centre

[@dragonslayer2565]

What's the point of having a church there

[@rustymettle7170]

@@dragonslayer2565 to combine 3 of murica's favorite pastimes, prayin', shoppin', and eatin'

[@urgurljulesl9986]

This is just sad and scary af

[@sungu23]

I grew up in a catholic school almost my whole life and I for one feel distressed that this is what Christianity has become in the US. I might not be a christian but I do have respect for the religion. This interpretation of the faith however is appalling.

[@mikec5783]

That song at the beginning... It's the UK national anthem rhythm but the rhyme is different.

[@toug65]

This is the scariest of movement’s. The taliban of North America.

[@ZZ-sb8os]

I drive by that bakery all the time...when I first moved to Atlanta a few years ago, I'd never spent any time in "the South" and was struck by how many Churches there are down here. I use Churches with a capital C on purpose, because it's different than most of the rest of America in that way, it's more like an industry down here than a belief system.