Christian reads Quran (Ep. 4)

[@daxvanderwal]

Concluding thoughts: Surah 10 - what is the purpose of life in Islam? - what are you thoughts on the "test of imitability"? Surah 11 - why do you think the Quran is the word of God? Surah 12 - what is your biggest takeaway from the story of Joseph?

[@stephenconnolly1830]

(1) Purpose of life in Islam is encapsulated in 51 : 56: "I did not create jinn (spirits) and humans except to worship Me." (2) the inimitability of the Qur'an is that no-one can write or has written like it unless they copy elements. It's a matter of style, meaning and grammar which are unmatchable - in essence only two out of three can be matched at any one time. All 16 styles of Arabic poetry and all types of prose are different to the Arabic of the Qur'an despite employing mostly the same words. The claim the inimitability test is subjective is false and a common non-Muslim prejudice without basis - the rules of grammar, rhetorical style and coherent meaning are clear to even lay Arabic speakers which facilitates the distinction of Qur'anic Arabic from non-Qur'anic Arabic literature. I have personally witnessed English speaking Muslims who learnt Arabic fluently and without being told beforehand could easily distinguish the recitation of the Qur'an from the Bible (which Christians have managed to copy in inferior form over recent decades). For the non-Arabic speaker it is entirely possible to comprehend its power without knowing the language simply on the basis of its powerful, logical arguments and superior information which dissects one's humanity in such a profound way. The Qur'an is also unedited so it would be quite impossible for any human to compose error/contradiction free and then recite to an audience accordingly. Its content clearly evidences anticipation of the future accurately - including, for example, preparing the Muslim community's move to Medina, the victory over their adversaries in Mecca etc as well as other aspects concerning reality like Edwin Hubble's observation of an expanding universe, big bang and destruction of the earth etc. Its moral authority is unmatched, including by the Bible, anticipating things like the UN Charter, anti-slavery, institution of proper legal procedures etc, etc. There is no literature even remotely like it, certainly not the Bible which is very inferior and amounts to a sort of historical account of the prophets rather than God speaking directly to the reader voicing His expectations for him or her. The Qur'an also corrects aspects of the biblical narrative despite the Prophet and his people being uneducated and mostly illiterate, for example, it accurately points out Abraham was not Jewish, that the Egyptian leader at the time of Joseph was a king not a Pharaoh and so on. It contains absolutely convincing truths throughout, for example, when the Jews of Medina were asked whether the Prophet was authentic they asked him to recount the story of Joseph which was not known to anyone in the community except the Jews. Chapter Yusuf provided a full and accurate account which the Jews could find no fault with. To better understand the significance of the Arabic meaning to a non-Arabic speaker you need to consult the brand new Project Illumine commentary available from the Usuli Institute's KZbin channel. @16:45 the Arabic language was used to record God's final testament to mankind because the people it was revealed to were living in such a remote and inhospitable location which allowed them to avoid outside interference from the great powers (the Roman and Persian empires). It was revealed to a people whose language skills were unmatched, particularly their ability to memorise huge tracts of poetry. By so doing God revealed his words to a people who would be, unlike the people to whom the Bible was revealed, fit for the task of the preservation of the revelation (the Qur'an). Finally, the Arabic language has features about it which enabled the message to be composed in a form which could not be matched by people proficient in the language (ensuring its inimitable character). Dax doesn't have access to the language of Jesus (Aramaic) nor the other Old Testament prophets (Hebrew) so banging on about not having access to the language of the Qur'an is nonsense and hypocritical. Arabic is a living language, Aramaic and Old Testament Hebrew are not (the pronunciation of the word "God" (Yahweh) in the Hebrew original is not known and remains highly contestable). @18:44 Hud is a chapter about the prophets of old dissenting against the corrupt ways of the privileged elite and the misrule of their people turning them away from moral/ethical standards required by God throughout the ages. Dax is covering these chapters in a highly superficial way by not consulting the modern exegetical literature (see above). This chapter demonstrates another aspect of the Qur'an, its coherent message and truth about the world - privileged elites without checks and balances leading people into autocratic despotism, iniquity and corruption. The point about Hud is that he was an Arabian prophet and so was familiar to the Arab pagans at the time the Qur'an was revealed. There is historical evidence for his existence. However, the chapter doesn't just deal with Hud but with other prophets, like Noah, who are well known and the subject of the Bible. Each faced similar challenges, hence the coherency of the chapter so it doesn't matter if Hud is not mentioned in the Bible his moral example mirroring that of the other biblical prophets is all that counts. A person who can't appreciate that must be morally blind. @21:53 the key to chapter Yusuf is its last verse, Ayah #111: (In their stories is a lesson for those who possess intelligence. This is not a fabricated tale, but a confirmation of what came before it, and a detailed explanation of all things, and guidance, and mercy for people who believe) which is significantly different from the story in the Old Testament because of the lack of a moral lesson there. The Qur'an is indicating to the Prophet to expect similar challenges to his prophetic mission from his own community, tested to the point of near despair. And that God, however, is in complete control of destiny such that those who maintain their moral/ethical compass throughout will eventually emerge victorious.

[@nasserfirelordarts6574]

An interesting take away from the story of Joseph PBUH to me personally, is that his family all prostrated (bowed down) to him. They "worshipped" him but not in the same fashion as God Almighty, not really *Worship* but obedience, submission. From an Islamic perspective, we believe that such an action was permissible for the followers of previous prophets, but ever since Christians misunderstood that as a sign of the divinity of Jesus PBUH, it became forbidden for us to bow down to humans.

[@mohammedyasser1310]

@@nasserfirelordarts6574 The prostration of Yusuf عليه السلام's parents and brothers was a prostration of greeting and honouring, it was permissible at that time, but, I have not heard of it having been permissible until Isa عليه السلام was sent, could you provide a source for that?

[@tania7680-y1x]

Brother thank you exploring Islam ☪️ 🥰

[@ChristIsMuslim]

The Quran is the word of God because the language is very beautiful for people who understand Arabic, and there are scientific proofs and prophecies of exact events in the Quran. You can watch Islamic scholars who talk about that, this is only a small part that I can give : 1. The Strait of Gibraltar which connects the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean. (Surah ar-Rahman : 19-20) 2. Fire under the sea (surah at-Tur : 6) 3. Solar system orbit (surah al-Anbiya : 33) 4. The BigBang Theory (surah al-Anbiya : 30) 5. Rainwater process (surah ar-Rum : 48-49) 6. River on the seabed (surah al-Furqan : 53) 7. Human fingerprints (surah al-Qiyamah : 3) 8. The corpses of the Pharaohs who lived at the time of Moses are still intact (surah Yunus : 92) 9. The victory of the Muslims at that time was like the conquest of Mecca, where this verse came down when Muslims were driven out and weak (surah 48:28) 10. The victory of the Romans who had been pushed and lost several times by the Persians (surah 30: 1-7) etc...

[@abdullaalk1817]

As an Arab speaker and student, from a linguistic point of view, there is 0% chance a human can come close. Secondly the mathmatical balance , scientific, historical, prophecies, etc all being recited without revision is astonishing

[@whatyoudoin3125]

Hey can I connect with you on Instagram ? I am looking for someone who speaks Arabic & have knowledge of islam.

[@MaSa-bp5qe]

@@whatyoudoin3125 I would suggest you to Mohammed Ali from “Muslim Lantern”.

[@MeowKiritoMeow]

​@@whatyoudoin3125how's your journey so far?

[@look9963]

I agree 100%. Even tho I am an Australian, but I was fortunate to be born and raised in Jordan which is an Arabic country and yes its very difficult and almost impossible to non Arabic speaker to understand the power(that's why it's a miracle) of Quran including all scientific facts mentioned there over 1400 yrs ago which were revealed only recently.

[@kingslayer0095]

Don’t worry about why we think Quran is the word of God, we have many reasons! Worry about your intentions and be sincere to yourself and you will see why it is the word of God.

[@KaTya24434]

I see him as a disingenuous human being surfing under the Islamic hype. For these people, we have to watch more before subscribing to their channels…

[@kingslayer0095]

@@KaTya24434 yea I don’t see much sincerity from this guy but Allahu Alam we could be wrong.

[@KaTya24434]

@@kingslayer0095 you are right. Allahou Ahlam. But how he spoke and try to deny as much as he can just with his own opinions without reading and searching about the surah, my guts don’t trust him. Also I am getting tired with people using the Oumma to make views … May Allah SWT gives to him Hidaya…

[@daxvanderwal]

I'm trying to be sincere, and my sincerity has led me to asking about your experience reading the Quran and why it is the word of God (I think it is a good and helpful question)

[@KaTya24434]

@@daxvanderwal Pray directly to God to guide you. Not Jesus or anyone. Directly to God and ask him to guide you and verify if Quran is his word or not. And also, stop imposing your opinions and ask more questions rather than making claims and expose more ignorance and lack of sincerity than anything else.. In the path of God, there is no place for Ego or arrogance and I watched all your 4 episodes. The first one was interesting. The rest you seem more like a naive David wood and it’s annoying…

[@Ahmad67475]

I just came across your channel and I’m so intrigued with your journey! As a Muslim, I’m really happy that your doing research to find answers! I’m so excited to see what you discover/learn

[@daxvanderwal]

Hey Sana! Thanks so much for the kind words

[@raf2rod]

I really enjoyed your videos so far. I know you are reading the Quran from an academic standpoint with a christian lens, however I pray to Allah that he opens your heart to the truth of the message as you read through the book. I'm in no way a scholar but I will try to answer some of your questions as best I can from my very limited knowledge, hopefully with your academic approach in mind. 1. Purpose of life - You got the answer pretty close. The complete answer comes in 2 parts: "To recognize the One true creator (absolute monotheism)" and "to worship him alone". Here by definition, "One true creator" refers to God's attributes - his Unity, his Oneness, his Sovereignty over all of creation along with the 99 attributes mentioned in the Quran. For example: 'Ar-Rahman' loosely translated means the most gracious. Here, Allah's grace cannot be compared to any human version of grace, for it is beyond the scope of human capacity or understanding. Same with all the other attributes, which can by no means be compared to a human version of the attribute. As for his Unity (very important concept in Islam - "Tawheed"), I would refer you to surah Ikhlas (chapter 112) which is for all intents and purposes a definition of the Oneness of Allah. "To worship him alone" means obviously to worship only Allah and NOT any of his creation, and not to enjoin partners to him. The term 'worship' simply means to do what Allah has commanded us to do and to refrain from what he has forbidden for us. 2. The test of inimitability - A little background: The miracles of all the previous prophets were for the people of the time of each of those prophets, to prove their prophethood. Those miracles cannot objectively be proven or disproven absolutely in the present day. However, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sent as the final messenger for all the people till the day of Judgement. Hence a miracle which can be proven over time has been left to us by Allah's infinite wisdom. That is the Holy Quran. The test of inimitability is one way of proving the miracle. There are ofcors plenty of other evidences in the Quran to prove its authenticity. Arabs in the time of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), despite being mostly UNLETTERED were infact highly EDUCATED. Oral traditions, poetry, rhetoric, debate and speech were at the very heart of arabic culture. Even wars were declared, won and lost on the podium of poetry and debate. The celebrities of the time were their greatest orators. This challenge in the Quran was given to the best of these poets and orators in all of arabia. There are infact specific criteria regarding this challenge which was obvious to the arabic poets of the time. The Quran itself is written in a very unusual way which does not fit any genre of arabic poetry. Basically for you to even understand the test you have to atleast know the arabic language. When the poets of the time came to meet the challenge, they all failed. And 1400 years later, one has yet to succeed. Keep in mind there are and always have been a sizeable non-muslim arab population in the world, so the challenge will never be biased. All challengers over time came to only 2 conclusions - either the Quran is magic, or from Allah. I recommend you see the following video where the MUSLIM host is giving a simplified explanation to an ARAB CHRISTIAN of the intricacies of the style of the Quran to get a better understanding of this test. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pF7Jnal8oNmasLc As for why the Quran was revealed in arabic, simply because any other language would not be able to fully grasp the meaning in such a small book. Each word in the Quran when translated would actually take entire paragraphs to properly explain their meaning. See this video for a good explanation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaDIXmmsg76FecU 3. Quran the word of Allah - Several reasons. The prophecies made which came true after their revelation (The story of Abu Lahab, the power balance between the persian nd roman empires, the rapid spread of Islam and many more). The fact that the Quran has been preserved as promised by Allah in the Quran itself (manuscripts dating back to the time of the Prophet exist). The scientific facts stated in the Quran, alot of which were discovered to be true only in the last century. The ease of learning the Quran itself, also promised. The fact that we have detailed histories and biographies of all the people surrounding the Prophet, giving more legitimacy from an historical standpoint. 4. Pretty much the same takeaway as yours. Also one of my favorite stories. Allah says in the Quran 94:5 "So, surely with hardship comes ease." Very inspiring for me and proven to be true throughout my life so far. Allah knows best.

[@raghadalnajjar9144]

Well said honestly. I also think that Quran is a miracle because as you said it is well preserved since the time of the prophet and the scientific evidence found in it but also because it is easily memoriesed by people it is the most memoriesed book in the world, there is actually no other book in this world that was written in a way like the quran.

[@daxvanderwal]

Thank you for writing this! I will watch that Muslim lantern video right now. And to your response to 3. I agree those tests seem to be more objective and I'm excited to look into prophecy / the scientific claims in the Quran.

[@raf2rod]

@@daxvanderwal That was the longest comment I ever wrote on KZbin! I'm not very active on social media. Also, I'm not a native speaker of Arabic or English. I hope I was able to help clear up some things. Despite some of my brothers here thinking you have disingenuous intent with this series, I believe you are a person of strong faith in your own tradition, simply trying to understand Islam better. Questions you ask are genuine ones which even I would have if our positions were reversed. And I always respect a man strong in his own convictions, which is why I subscribed and took the time to write the answers. I hope as you continue the series, you keep an open mind and open heart and PERSONALLY read the Quran with an OBJECTIVE perspective instead of a Christian one (with no intention of converting of course, just to judge the book on its own merits instead of comparing with the Bible). Your VIDEOS obviously should still have the same theme of a Christian reading the Bible - its fascinating for me to watch. If Allah wills you will find the truth on your own, and Allah is the best of planners.

[@hmdch]

@@raf2rod Masha'Allah brother, you did a very good job explaining all the points! I'm a native speaker of English and you did a way better job that I could do.

[@bravetab]

Absolutely excellent answer Tehzeeb.

[@peacebeuponus24]

The imitability is about beauty but also laws, prophecy, grammar, science etc. An unbiased judge who knows nothing should be the one who compares the two. But this test did challenge the Poets of that time.

[@Shxaibahmad]

He's reading the Quran for the first time, so let us excuse him and help him out. May Allah guide him

[@daxvanderwal]

Hey! Thanks for replying. How do you know it's about laws, prophecy, grammar, and science?

[@CYB3RSEN5EI]

@@daxvanderwal Hi brother Dax, I hope you see this. Love the videos btw and thanks for sharing. The inimitability of the Quran is due to its unique style, eloquence, and depth of meaning. Its verses are rich in imagery, metaphor, and rhetorical devices, and its language is clear, concise, and powerful. Additionally, the Quran contains a wealth of scientific and historical knowledge that was unknown at the time of its revelation. The context when the quran was revealed, the Arabs were extremely proud of the language and used to refer to non Arabic speakers as Ajam(mute). The poets were seen as the most important and influential members in a society of mostly illiterate people. A good poet could bring shame to your clan for centuries with one powerful poem. When they heard the Quran however is was completely unique, it completely descoped the Arabic language and does not fit in any category of Arabic grammar or poetry. As a non Arabic speaker in is hard to appreciate. However this is not a subjective test. It is completely objective because of the reasons I mentioned. No one has been able to do it till today for the past 1400 years. Further more any style of writing or art can be replicated. Whether from geniuses such as Shakespeare, Picasso, Beethoven it can be copied and use the same style for an original piece. That is why there are forgeries and so on. But the Quran is unique and can never be replicated, that is why it is an objective test. I hope this makes sense. There are scholars that have large volumes of works on this topic who can explain it way better than I have

[@eaglaxle]

@@daxvanderwal Lemme handle this one to you , i also commented it , laws because the challenge here is about they cant put a better or similar laws that can make order and arrangement for people’s life like quran Prophecy because Allah in quran prophesied true things that happened and they cant do that , for the example here in this episode like the prophecy vision of Joseph in the beginning of the story Grammar because whoever is perfect at arabic can’t get the level of proficiency of the arabic in quran And btw the Quran that you reading in English is 100% the original quran its the same as the arabic one but perfectly translated to English , so what you reading is 100% Quran Science because the Quran talked about scientific facts in earth , space and even devils world before the scientists of our modern age discover them Also these reasons could answer that yes Quran is word of god Try to ask us more (the muslim community) if you still want some answers All respect goes to you dax

[@beamlight4679]

@@daxvanderwal What's the Quran about when you read it? Your question is desperate not logical, do you know any book that's recited as beautiful the Quran? Your bible can it be recited beautiful as the Quran, if yes post it so we can compare it with the Quran

[@skyler713]

The test of inimitability doesn't specifically talk about its beauty. It's a package beauty truth consistency. If you want an example I suggest you look up Nouman Ali khan who studies the literature of Quran. His lecture about ayat al Kursi which you already read in surah 2. It's beautiful

[@daxvanderwal]

I will look it up! Thank you for the recommendation

[@daxvanderwal]

also, how do you know it's about beauty, truth, consistency?

[@skyler713]

@@daxvanderwal it's my personal interpretation of it. I feel like God is speaking to me. And as you said some passages of the Bible remind me of the Quran. I can instantly recognize the difference. It's beautiful in substance and form.

[@skyler713]

@@daxvanderwal kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIuokqGGdtaGbpY this video has visuals to help better understand his explanation of it. And I'd like to thank you for your good energy and honest comments of the Quran. I think your way of doing it is great. Love the recap at the beginning too👏👏

[@ahsha349]

@@daxvanderwal I believe the challenge was meant for the poets that were around at the time the revelation was being sent down. They knew the Quran was special and they couldn’t reconcile that with their own beliefs of the prophet. It’s the words that are used in the Quran, grammar and composition. U really have to do a deep dive to get this. It’s a challenge for the Arab language experts.

[@nasserfirelordarts6574]

As far as the test of inimitablity goes: it applies only to Arabic speakers, however it isn't a test of "beauty". The Qur'an's mastery of the Arabic language is absolutely unparalleled, it bends and twists the grammar to its absolute limits, using expressions and grammatical structures that only "theoretically" exist. It sometimes says something that on the surface level appears to be saying something, but is actually saying the exact opposite when you take the grammatical context into consideration. Every single Surah contains a "linguistic miracle" of using a word in an altogether new way, which was never done before. Furthermore, the Qur'an was revealed over 23 years by an illiterate man, and yet many of its longest chapters have an innate "ring structure". There's a video on YT discussing this, "The ring structure of the Qur'an" or something of the sort. The pagans brought the 5 greatest poets of their day to contest the Qur'an and they all gave up, saying that his words couldn't be said by a man. "He must be practicing sorcery" they said. So regarding objective criteria: - absolute mastery of the language - using words and expressions that only theoretically existed before - appearing to say something but saying the opposite - eloquence and beauty - innate structure - unclassifiable as any of the 16 types of Arabic poetry, yet still rhymes - originality (not copying the Qur'an in its style and linguistics) - consistency (must uphold those standards throughout) - lack of flaws and contradictions - ease of memorization - (perhaps?) The ability to exorcise demons like the Qur'an Note: The OT was in Hebrew, and Jesus himself spoke Aramaic. Any and all revelation was spoken in a language. There never was a universal, all-language revelation. The difference is, that the Qur'an is so beyond any other Arabic works that it boasts about its superiority, using it as *one of* the signs that it's from God Himself.

[@wendykpop]

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[@baekhyunniefan]

This is the best explanation I read here, fantastically put

[@khaledkalou1876]

Nouman ali khan has a hours of lectures about the story of joseph and the lesson you can learn from it.

[@skyler713]

The story of Joseph is beautiful and has many lessons. I think about patience like you and trust in God's plan

[@daxvanderwal]

it's so good!

[@SonOfAdam314]

@@daxvanderwal i forgot to tell you, in story of joseph in the Quran the king of Egypt the king didn't called as pharo in time of prophet joseph the Quran called him king.And in Moses time called pharo.Comparing to the Bible both in joseph time and Moses they called pharo. But after the historical studies of Egypt ancient language “ Hieroglyphs “ writing they said in joseph time the king never called as pharo. I hope u search that .

[@nasirmohamed5067]

‘’ it is not the eyes that are blind but the hearts’’ (quran 22:46)

[@hashemlabban1795]

back then the pagan arabs where famous and well known for poetry and there eloquence in the arabic language that is why the quran in its superior form of perfect arabic came and challenged them to bring even one verse like it if they could and till this day this is an open challenge that no one was yet able to fullfill

[@kelanitweir4994]

Appreciate your efforts as always. I've been waiting for this episode. The imitability test is much more complicated than making some verse in Arabic. We all know that the Quran was revealed piece by piece in a period of 23 years, and the verse revealed are due to an event that causes it. It is not something that the prophet came up with over night and recited it the following day to the companions. Not at all. Secondly, despite the long period of the revelation (23 years), the Quran has zero contradictions. Moreover, it was revealed to an illiterate man, and was a linguistic miracle that surpassed all poetry at that time, or any time to be honest. Add up to the challenge, it has many prophecies that talks about the future, science, history, and correcting the misconceptions of other religions. All that must be dependent on the circumstances and the questions that people asked the prophet. That is why it is not imitable.

[@daxvanderwal]

Thanks for explaining! How do we know it surpassed all poetry at that time? Wasn't there people who weren't that impressed by it? This is why I'm saying it's subjective. However prophecy, science, and other truth claims are testable and verifiable

[@mohammedelzhhaf985]

@@daxvanderwal u need to read hadith to know that ,, it's historic fact

[@kelanitweir4994]

@@daxvanderwal Thanks for your reply. I will give you an example to illustrate how the Quran's language surpassed the Arabic poetry at that time. Do you know the famous companion Abu- Hurira( one of the best Hadith narrators with almost 600 Hadith in Bukhari and Muslim alone). His clan( Sakher) was the elite in Arabic poetry, and their chief was Tofile ibn omar. When he approached Mecca, the pagan worshippers approached him and said ( the is a person, i.e Mohammed,who recites poetry that is far beyond our reach, go see if you can beat him). When the chief of the clan that was considered a master in poetry approached and listened to the Quran, he said this is far beyond poetry and accepted Islam. This is a very well known incidence in all books of Sera( the biography of the prophet). If the best poets at that time, even today, consider the Quran as the highest linguistic authority in Arabic language, then their opinion is no longer subjective. I hope I helped you on that , but I'm curious , are you satisfied with the answers about Islam being the religion of peace? In sura 9 ?

[@daxvanderwal]

@@kelanitweir4994 thank you for breaking that down! I am willing to accept that the Quran is beautifully poetic and advanced in Arabic, I just still don't think it's a very good test for truth. Out of curiosity, if there was an Arabic scholar who told you that the Quran actually isn't that impressive, how would you respond? As far as the religion of peace, I see how 9:4-5 can be considered peace but 9:29 still sticks out to me. I won't study further for now because I need to keep studying later surahs but I will definitely come back to it. Also I think reading a biography on Muhammad will really help understand his views on war overall. Is there a biography you would recommend?

[@raghadalnajjar9144]

Also if an Arabic scholar said that the Quran isn't impressive, i would ask him how really, the Quran have no mistakes in its Nahu (grammar) it is indeed written uniquely and does stand out from all the old and new Arabic peoms, it is easily memoriesed by millions of people despite it being somehow complicated linguistically. So I would ask him how exactly does he not find it impressive.

[@majinisy5725]

14:08 what you were talking about there i can explain, it's not really subjective when talking about the Quran because when the greatest poets of that time thought that the arabic text of the Quran was magic. It's because of its grammar and vocabulary that was used in ARABIC, it was something that no human could ever make up and TIL THIS DAY it's still impossible to do so.

[@monstaplaytv4545]

Mokhmed - is Muhammad in our Chechen language:)

[@Akram_El-Masry]

Khabib normagidove is habeeb noor Mohammad-ove ?

[@daxvanderwal]

Thanks for sharing! But the Chechen language isn't the one being used in Song of Solomon. We can't take a Hebrew word and say it sounds like this other word in Chechen so it must be the same word.

[@KaTya24434]

@@daxvanderwal you mean that you understand better than all the other guys claming that the Praiseworthy has been mentionned in song of Salomon? We have to believe you and not them? Why? Are a an old testament scholar? kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6SyloODjN51hJo

[@azkuhl8171]

@@daxvanderwal what language is your Bible? The same language as Jesus?

[@daxvanderwal]

@@azkuhl8171 The Bible is written in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. Jesus spoke Aramaic and he was most likely familiar with Hebrew and Greek. But if you're trying to argue that we can't know Jesus' words because the gospels aren't in Aramaic that wouldn't be very logical given the fact that we translate languages accurately all the time

[@ahmadmanga]

Surah Yusuf might be my favorite Surah as well. My biggest takeaway of the Surah? It's how to deal with temptations and as you said be patient. The way the words are recited in this Surah in Arabic are beautiful too. It's poetic and uses unique phrases found only in it... It's also one continues story, and as a writer I marvel at the many "modern" storytelling techniques are already present in this Surah. "The dramatic Irony," the "Circular narrative," even using the "Mentor Archetype" as the protagonist, it's just too beautiful.

[@daxvanderwal]

I appreciate your thoughts! I agree, it is very ahead of its time

[@Oddatelierent]

The wording , the formations , the rhythms , the grammars, the information , the uniqueness ....etc In the Quran is unmatched +1400 years and still not a single human being could write anything like it

[@dunyamin]

Makmet (Mehmed) is another name for Mohammad, which is derived from the name Mohammad. The Aramaic version of Mehmed is Makmet.. He was called in his time by that name too...

[@KaTya24434]

Thank you. Honestly his claims during this video made me think he is not sincere at all. He seems to do these series in order to dismantle the Quran. You can’t do so man. This video is quite cringe…

[@dunyamin]

@@KaTya24434 Yeah you can see from his eyes that he wants to debunk Islam, not to understand it. That's why he doesn't react to the miracles of the Quran of those Surahs he read...

[@KaTya24434]

@@dunyamin he will fail as many before him. If he is not sincere, he will fail…

[@a.m.t.s.]

@@KaTya24434 I don't think that he is trying to debunk the Quran, but he tries not to put emotions into it and be critical and neutral ... And just said what information he found. If these information is wrong, it's another thing and you can share some sources for comparison.

[@ra_tw_01tqw76]

The Muslim lantern recently uploaded a video on the test of imitability. I think the video is called arab Christian introduced to the challenge of the quran. This goes through the conditions of the challenge

[@ra_tw_01tqw76]

He also talks about why it is beautiful

[@nesrinebk2743]

The challenge is not about beauty! It doesn't have to be in Arabic! If you can create a book with that much truth and accuracy go ahead! But know that you will not be able to.

[@ahmadmanga]

Without a second drafting by the way.

[@sofianeabdelkrimbouterfas5457]

1. The idolaters did not ask "what are the criteria to be met to create a chapter" they simply retracted when they were the masters of the Arabic language. why? 2. the linguistic challenge is far from being the only test of falsification of the Quran. There is also the scientific test, the historical test, the philosophical test. and even if the interlocutor does not speak Arabic he can always look into the other aspects of the book Like: a. "Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart?1 And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" 21:30 b. The name of the priest HAMAN in the story of Moses or the name of the "King and not pharaoh as the bible says" in the story of Josef which are coroborated by archeology c. And the multitude of philosophical arguments on the prophecy the uniqueness of god or the nature of the human being. 3. the jews of Medina threatened their "pagan arab" enemies by telling them" A prophet will soon appear and you will be exterminated like AAD and ERAM who are two Arab peoples. The prophet sent to AAD is HOUD and the Jews knew him. Their words are recorded in the quran 2:89

[@shaziasiddiqui6769]

Surah Asr has 4 things to do to get to heaven.

[@joenorman2405]

10:47 Quran 51:56 I did not create Jinn and humans except to worship me.

[@theblossomspirit9680]

YESSS EP 4 IS OUT!!!

[@daxvanderwal]

It's about time!

[@QuinnTheTailor]

I understand your views on the test of imitability. Im not an arabic speaker as well, so i couldnt really understand what sets the Quran apart from other texts. However, other arabic speaking intellectuals, academics and poets analyized the Quran. They have come to an conclusion that the Quran is a unique literature. It contains truths, tells stories, gives descriptions, gives judicative guidelines, rules morality, predicts the future, gives wisdom and much more and all of it while still remaining a poetic and eloquent sound and unique structure, which makes it easy for humans to be memorized. And all of that while verses were revealed at different moments about different events ,so that it could not possibly have been planned by the prophet, who in addition to that was an illiterate. So after those academics and poets analyzing the Quran it was given a whole new category of literature because in didn't fit in any existing category and was unique; different from poetry and prose. Also it seems that the Quran being in arabic limits other people from accessing it. But we have to keep in mind that arabic is by far the richest language in the world. If God wants to communicate direct guidance to us , it would make sense that He would choose a language that allows very precise and distinct phrases and meanings. Of course we can't know for sure why Allah chose arabic, unless it would have been revealed by Him. But we can try to make sense of it.

[@aminatakane982]

It is said arabic has 12.000.000 words and english only 500.000. Indeed arabic must decribe things and situations in the most precise way.

[@daxvanderwal]

Hey! Thanks for taking the time to explain what your experience has been like. As far as the "illiterate" point I see people making that point a lot so let me ask some clarification on it - being illiterate doesn't mean he was uneducated right? Are you just saying him being illiterate would have made it harder for a man like this to come up with it?

[@QuinnTheTailor]

@@daxvanderwal Yes, argueably i would say that him being illiterate would make it magnitudes harder. As he has no writing or reading abilities and hence can't structurally "plan" and coordinate these verses. Literate and schooled poets even take days or weeks to write one poem, authors of books even months or years to finish a chapter because they are constantly contemplating, re-arranging, erasing and changing words and verses. Before they release the finished book/poem, they have dozens or hundreds of pages or verses that haven't made it into the final version. As an iliterate man who hadn't had lyrical education, didn't attend school, wasn't able to read or study about it nor was able to edit the verses or chapters because he couldn't write it down and think about changes or mistakes etc , all his verses had to be spot on from the first time they have been revealed. All this while maintaining a poetical structure and rhythmic but also truth. Most poems are rhythmic, structured and so on, because the author writes it down and can just choose and change words and make up the story as he goes 'cause it doesn't have to adhere to reality or the truth, nor does it have to be free of contradictions. Contradictions are sometimes even intentionally used as rhetorical elements in poems for different means. But not so in the Quran, because contradictions would create questions about the truthfulness of its message. It would exceed the capabilities of a human to construct a book like the Quran. A common view is that God intentionally chose to reveal the Quran to an illiterate, so that people who don't acknowledge that its humanly not possible to write it, could not accuse him of constructing it. To give you another thing. Mohammed was given the prophethood at the age of 40, until then he wasn't known to tell poems, stories and sorts. So when he started to recite the Quran one day, the locals and poets were shocked and surprised that Mohammed was suddenly reciting such eloquent and poetic words, which they never heard before. I put "poems" in quotation marks, cause the Quran isn't technically seen as a poem. I hope i remembered things correctly and didn't write something wrong.

[@hmdch]

​@@QuinnTheTailor I agree with everything you said. One thing I would like to add to this is that Mohammad (PBUH) was known to be the truthful and honest one among the pagan Arab community in Mecca way before he ever became a prophet. He wasn't ever known to lie or spin stories even in pre-Islamic and non-Muslim accounts. So from everything we know about him, it's very unlikely he would've copied from the Bible and lied about it.

[@ahsensiddiqui9595]

The inimitability test can apply in a broad sense. The miracle of the Quran put plainly is word choice. If the Quran is from God, then every single word can be scrutinized to the highest degree. Arabic has 12.3 million words, which means that there are thousands of alternate sentence structures where a synonym could have been used in place of what is already there or a sentence could be written a different way. The miracle is that there isn't a single place where any word could be replaced that would make the text better in terms of clarity, rhythm, meaning, or accuracy and no other book could compete with such a standard. If anyone could point out a single word that could be changed to make the text better, the test would be passed, yet despite the best effort of many, it hasn't been done. The arab speaker will appreciate this the most no doubt, but every person can see it to some extent. You will see certain scientific accuracies as you read like: "We sent from the heavens iron" in surah hadid as an example. The ancient scholars were confused on why the word "sent down" was used, but today we know it is more accurate to say that because iron originated in space and came down through meteorites. In this way you will find that no verse of the Quran lacks in any way, in its accuracy and truth despite all the advancement we see today. When you combine this with the eloquence, style, and even the numerical miracles of the Quran's writing it becomes undeniable that it must be from God. Hope that helps

[@SaifuddinRehan]

Thank you for the video, appreciate your perspectives. I'm actually interested to know what is it about the Bible that convinced you that it is from God/endorsed by God/inspired by God? (given that you asked the question about the Quran)

[@daxvanderwal]

Hey! Fair question. In the future I would love to do a Bible vs Quran series talking about how we can "test" each one, I think that would be a lot of fun. Overall I think the tests are similar - prophecy in the OT and the NT, clear predictions about the future that came to fruition are a huge test and have convinced me that the Bible is more than just human words. I would also say the teaching and truth claims in general show insight into the universe that could only come from a divine author. The Bible explains reality in a way that is consistent with how I experience it. But the biggest reason is Jesus. I think Jesus is God in the flesh and he affirmed the OT and the NT comes from those who followed Jesus - so I'm going to follow the scriptures that he clearly affirmed.

[@viobull5548]

Hello Dax, One thing to note about why Arabic is the chosen language for the final revelation from God. The Arabic language has a vocabulary of over 12 MILLION words, so the precision of language is immense and the depth of meaning is incredible. Compare that to the English vocabulary with about 170,000 in the English dictionary. To learn Arabic is a priceless treasure, may God grant us such knowledge. Something else you said about reading a translation of the Quran, the main essence of the Quran can be found in the translation but hardly any of the beauty. The fact that you admit even the translation is beautiful, then you can only imagine how much more beautiful it reads in the original language. Also, are you even reading Biblical scripture in the original language? One of the most confusing aspects of Christianity and Christians is the refusal to learn Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic in order to know their religion better and with greater depth. In Islam, there is an expectation to learn Arabic to a certain degree in order to pray in the most authentic way possible in regards to the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. The test of imitability is certainly a strong one as Arabia has had some of the greatest poets ever and in 1400 years none of them have come close to the powerful eloquence of the Quran.

[@daxvanderwal]

Thanks for leaving this message! As far as Arabic being the chosen language because of the depth, I actually think it can be argued that Arabic is the worst language for revelation. It can't easily be translated and understood by people in other languages, showing how limited this revelation would be (unless Allah doesn't want any non-arabic speakers to know him for some reason). But the Bible can be translated and understood in several languages, making it more accessible to the world. I read an english translation of the Bible but I constantly study the original languages to make sure I'm understanding verses correctly. This is how languages work, translations can communicate the meaning well and if we are confused we can look into the original languages.

[@viobull5548]

@@daxvanderwal Interesting notion considering almost all of Ancient Greek and Roman literature that led to the Euro-Christian enlightenment and is still extensively studied today only survived because it was translated into Arabic during the Abbasid Caliphate and then translated back into Latin/Greek. This strongly contradicts your claim that Arabic is the worst language since it can't be translated easily. Europe and Christianity would not be what they are today without preservation through Arabic translation of much of the literature that inspired the Renaissance and Enlightenment! God chose Arabic because the language is deep and rich with incredible nuance, making translations of the true message into less complex languages still incredibly insightful and impactful. The vast majority of Muslims don't speak Arabic and yet they understand the beautiful message of the Quran through translations, such as in Indonesian, Malaysian, and English!

[@daxvanderwal]

@@viobull5548 we have Greek and other language manuscripts directly from the ancient world that we use to translate… other literature may depend on Arabic translations (and I applaud that) but Christianity doesn’t need those

[@hantu0666]

that was my fav surah. I cry when i read that.. that was outstanding beautiful. for me his character of wisdom how he handle all situation

[@kewell65]

Quran is just more then beauty, the beauty is like the icing on the cake. Quran is full of complex rhythms ring style and many more

[@mastersinrefining]

11:30 you are searching for a verse everyone knows about the purpose of life such a verse exists ,it's surah 51 verse 56 《and we did create man kind (ins) and spirits (Jin ) only to worship me》 translated by me

[@ChristIsMuslim]

מַחֲמַדִּים in Song of Solomon 5 :16 the word "Muhammad" + "im" / the word of "im" is for respect in Aramaic. You can copy that Aramaic word then paste it to Arabic or English and then you can read Muhammad.

[@daxvanderwal]

Hey! I think you mean Hebrew, but still that Hebrew word is simply a woman in song of solomon talking about how she desires her husband. That hebrew word means desire and would be pronounced "machmad-im". This verse isn't about Muhammad and isn't pronounced like his name

[@hussinadnan2882]

The challenge is very simple. It is to make a book, surah, or verse one like the chapter of the Qur’an, and it must be in Arabic, because the challenge is originally for Arab linguists, because until today we do not have a single Arabic book other than the Qur’an. There is no linguistic or moral error in it, and there is no contradiction in it since 1400 years and we fail every time

[@alif4142]

the answer @ minute 11:55 is Qur'an Surah An nisa verse 82 Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would have certainly found in it many inconsistencies.

[@MightyLacolone]

Welcome to the Muslim world brother god bless you

[@luckewayouanns9267]

3:49 mohamed differe by language like in russian they say magomed because they don't have ح they use g same with hebrew try to ask some one who speak hebrew about what is the name mohamed pronounced in hebrew

[@nasseraltamimi1778]

Joseph’s Syrah, in Arabic especially, is so emotional man I always get moved when I read it. Just can’t help it.

[@a.m.t.s.]

I love your analysis. Just two points : About your comment at approximately 7:30 when you say if islam is religion of peace or not, i asked this question one Muslim who is debating with me time to time, and he said that it's not religion of peace but of justice. Like, when it comes to their laws i guess. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Idk. And secondly, when you said that we are separated from God and should be reconnected with Him by prayer and then in paradise? Something like that... It reminds me of what I heard in the church I currently attend. They say like that we people were connected with God in paradise/garden of Eden at the beginning but then this unity broke because of sin, then in Genesis 6:3 it should confirm even more. And they say that God is sending prophets to people and tries already 6000 years to bring people back and book of revelation should be the final stage of this work. 🙈 What do you think about it? I'm just thinking like the beginning of creation could give us some answers, like when it comes to purpose/reason of our life here. But maybe when you get to reading about Adam and Eve in the Quran more, then get back to it.

[@islamicshortreminders3661]

During the time of Prophet Muhammad, the Arabic language was at its peak of eloquence. So, for Arab pagans the challenge was to bring something like Quran which could match it's eloquence and style. But they couldn't as the Quran is in a unique style of ring composition, it has no formal beginning and ending like usual books,..and it was not revealed in a regular manner. But today, it's the age of science and technology, and there are so many verses in Quran which speak about science and the things which are recently discovered e.g the orbit of sun. To imitate the Quran today would mean to bring a Surah, which has beauty, ring composition, eloquence, surprising prophecies etc.

[@joenorman2405]

The whole purpose of life, as a Muslim is to worship God alone with no one besides him, and dedicate our life in the path of the Prophet, Muhammad peace be upon him, and be nice to each other in the main goal is to do what ever God tells us to do to worship him along and be nice and have a nice family bond and that’s about it to make it short. We as a Muslim. We focus more on God more than anything else in life because we will die. We shall return to God

[@theslicer22]

One thing you might find interesting wich goes back to what you were saying about find truth in the quran I recall watching a video were the went deep into history and compared how at the time of moses refers to the king as pharo and when mentioning josseph the quran says king. it was saying somthing aboit historicly the title Pharaoh wasn't used until a later along those lines

[@anisaanshur1671]

Dax, thank you for doing this Quran series. I’m not an Islamic scholar but I can tell you that nothing is coincidental indeed this is a guidance from the creator of the 7 seven heavens beneath the soil and everything in between. The Quran says it’s not the eyes that are blind but indeed the hearts. As you continue to embark on this learning journey ask for sincere guidance to the truth and you shall receive it. My favorite story of prophet Yusuf alaihi salaam other than his remarkable patience is when prophet Muhammad sallallaahu alaihi wasallam told his companions that half of the beauty was given to him and the rest throughout the world. May Allah open your heart to the truth. Aamiin

[@daxvanderwal]

Thank you for the kind words Anisa! I think you bring up an interesting point about the heart being blind. In Christianity it is the same idea, we would say someone who isn't Christian has a blind heart and has ignored the truth. I am well aware that Muslims will accuse me of having the wrong intentions if I don't accept Islam as true, they will say it has nothing to do with my mind but it is my heart that is blind. The problem is that's also what Christians will say about Muslims, that their hearts are blind and they don't want to accept the truth. Either way, I do hope to know what is THE truth lol but I know people will just accuse me of being insincere unless I accept their side

[@anisaanshur1671]

I recognize that you’re genuinely searching for the truth and I pray to Allah for his guidance upon you, aamiin. I’m sorry that you have to go through ridicule while you’re out here learning with sincerity. Unfortunately, ignorance runs through every walk of life regardless what faith they believe in. We are not suppose to judge anyone’s belief but only to disagree with respect. This learning journey is between you and your creator and I pray that you ask for guidance to the truth without mentioning Allah or Jesus but simply saying God. I look forward to your videos and you got a fan from Chicago 😊

[@raghadalnajjar9144]

I saw in some comments some muslims accusing you of being insincere which is extremely disappointing to be honest, this is is not how muslims should act when someone is respectfully and genuinely questioning our religion and trying to seek the truth clearly sincerely, we should be welcoming, answering your questions respectfully and make dua for you to find the truth. Please ignore them, this isn't how our prophet would do, this isn't how muslims should act and question someone's sincerity. "O who believe avoid as much (as possible): for suspicion in some cases is a sin"

[@daxvanderwal]

@@raghadalnajjar9144 Hey! I super appreciate this comment. Honestly if it was the other way around there would be some Christians doing the same thing, so I totally understand. Some Muslims will be more open to it and some won't be, but I'm thankful to anyone that watches! And I especially appreciate your patience with me

[@nmkzf]

This life is a test preparation for the true life after.

[@daxvanderwal]

why is there a test at all?

[@nmkzf]

@@daxvanderwal why is there a test at all? Because Humans, are the only of HIS creation that, have accepted Freedom of choice (quran 33/72). Freedom of choice between right and wrong. believe or deny obey or revolt God existence and HIS message /orders / do's and don'ts For this humans are tested what would one choose in this life, result reward paradise or punishment hell.

[@SonOfAdam314]

@@daxvanderwalDo men think that they will be left alone on saying, "We believe", and that they will not be tested?){(Al-Ankabut: 29-2)})..(God Almighty said: {And We will surely test you with something of fear and hunger and a shortage of lives and fruits, but give glad tidings to those who are patient. Those who, when a calamity befalls them, say, “We belong to God, and to Him we shall return.” Those upon them are prayers from their Lord and mercy, and it is they who are the rightly guided {(Al-Baqara: 155-157). Even prophets they are better then us in faith they had their calamity.but also God does not burden any human being with more than he is well able to bear ({Al Bagarah: ch:2 verse:286.}).

[@hussinadnan2882]

The goal of life in Islam is simple and written in the Quran وَمَا خَلَقْتُ الْجِنَّ وَالْإِنْسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ I created the jinn and humankind only that they might worship Me

[@majoraspirit6139]

Isiah 42 is definitely the strongest or rather most explicit mention of Muhammad SAW. From what I read Kadar is the prophets ancestor. As for proof of the Quran being the word of God there is this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6ezpJaihNigZ6s From what I’ve heard from reverts to Islam, most say that Tawhid is what appealed most to them.

[@KaTya24434]

This Guy is trying to stick in his trinity nonsense and all these séries is to try to debunk Quran and he will fail. I do not trust him personaly…

[@mariabogas]

I am Christian and I am also thinking in starting to read the Quran (after Easter, since I don't believe Easter is the right time to read it), to frankly judge by myself the book, instead in trusting in other peoples opinions about it. So, thanks for posting this videos and your journey, since it isn't easy to make questions of this topic and takes courage. I will continue to watch them and keep an eye on the generous comments you get from people of both faiths.

[@daxvanderwal]

Thank you Helena! I love this comment and I think your heart is in the right place.

[@Provision600]

Smart guy. Might get convinced like Dr. Morris Bukai.

[@tarekbhai3549]

I m feeling very happy watching you learn Quran. Mashallah

[@daxvanderwal]

I'm glad!

[@hamzabouknani3056]

When we are talking abt the test of imitability we not only mean the poetry of the beauty of wording, but also the scientific miracles mentioned in the book, something that should be unknown to an illiterate man 1400years ago. It was not only challenging people from that era, but to the people who will be reading it later on and saying it is not true, when science is available to backup what was mentioned in the verses as God knew we would reach such advances

[@sisi-qw9xs]

For me, the arrangement within the Qur’an is a miracle. A question comes to mind: how to arrange the Qur’an, even though the Qur’an responds immediately to the events, and also the topics increase with the passage of time and overlap. Nevertheless, the Qur’an made a miraculous arrangement, as if the writer went to the future, then wrote the book, then divided it into small pieces, then returned to the present and began to restore cutting

[@munibzain1966]

There's an atheist revert named Jeffrey Lang who I think summarises the immitability test of the Quran. Basically, he once had a Quran being gifted to him, and started reading it and was fascinated by its narrative and curious and precise word choice. He thought its logic was sound, and it was presenting a very strong point of view of life, of reality, God and etc... That's not the main point, however. When he visited a muslim friend, he found him listening to a "song" with no other instruments, with a rhythm that's very tough to pull at all in poetry, a melody that's haunting and beautiful as he describes it, and asked his friend what was he listening to, and he told him that that was the Quran. That was when he realized that perhaps this was the word of God. How can something that seems so intentional with its word choice, so strong in its linguistic structure, be so rhythmic, he asked. And to me, that's exactly it. When you're writing a poem or a song, sometimes accuracy isn't all you care about, since it must rhyme and satisfy a certain rhythm. Meaning is important, and that's exactly what makes poetry a challenging endeavor. The Quran's rhythmic style is truly superb. Very fluid and flows into one another. I can literally memorize six pages of it in a span of half an hour, just because of how it naturally flows into itself, and beautifully resonates. Yet, to be able to achieve this, while abholding meaning and very specific word choices and meanings, (not to mention the grammatical accuracy of it, which when it comes to arabic, is very hard to not bypass one or two of for the sake of rhythm), you would expect the meanings of it to be a mumble jumble. That's why people usually don't translate poetry. Because it loses its meaning and power without constantly hearing the rhythm, which kinds of distract you. However, when I read the Quran, it feels like the author is simply just speaking, if you know what i mean. Like, it doesn't have that feeling of forceful terminologies and sentence structure that poetry usually have. So it feels like the author's matter of speech is simply incredible poetry and melody. That the author simply speaks music, nothing else. I think that's why I believe it's from God, and why non of the disbelivers even attempted to immitate the Quran, since they know they would fail. I think a great testimony for its superb-ness is how they habitually call it magic, and they call the prophet a magician, and those people were poets! When you're being called a magician for simply speaking, know that you're not simply speaking. Side note: There is a bookby an early arabic muslim scholar, called the signs of miracles, referring to the Quran. The book has mo reference to the Quran at all, but is a study of the arabic language, its grammer and "the science of meaning", or ilm alma'anii. He talks about how no two sentences have the same meaning, sentence structure and how it communicates meaning, and says that without this, the miraculous nature of the Quran is only superficial. He basically explains why if the Quran lacked rhythm and melody all together, its simply linguistically immitable. May God guide us all to his path.

[@anwarelgattari4196]

I would recommend (Muhammad His Life Based On The Earliest Source) by Martin Lings. it's a highly regarded and authoritative biography of the Prophet Muhammad, providing a rich and nuanced portrait of one of the most significant figures in human history.

[@AtomicCodeX]

5th comment, can't wait for your next video

[@Entertainment-rs5hg]

About the test of inimitability, it has a criteria but figuring out the criteria is already part of the test. think about this way: if you can't recognize the eloquence and complexity of something you won't be able understand it. like art or music some people can appreciate details that most people won't even notice. this test was given to the best poets of that time, the only thing that made them stick out as a society is their fluency and comprehension of the Arabic language. all of them at the time understood the test at that time because of their capacities and still failed to do it. There is a good book explains this criteria its in arabic and was recommended on another channel: Arab Christian Introduced To The Challenge Of The Quran! Muhammed Ali Watch the first 6 mins he talks about this. Also the book he mentions is this: المعجزة إعادة قراءة الإعجاز اللغوي في القرآن الكريم Miracle Re-reading of the linguistic miracle in the Holy Quran i don't know if there is a translation of this book or not.

[@Provision600]

So was Palms 5:16 inspired by God ? And whats the correct way to pronounce Muhammad in Hebrew?

[@techherochannel]

19:30 it seems impossible for humans to write that since n.1 no one can create something like it 2.it talks about historical events that happened hundreds of years before the time of Muhammad with absolutely now way for any human at this time to know about this things 3. it talks about a lot of scientifically accurate facts 4.it has a lot of prophecies that came true exactly

[@Na9f]

For the test of imitability as an Arab myself: The way the Quran is constructed is using Arabic letters, bringing grammatical constructs that which was never used before and use them while writing it. Bring words that wasn’t known before but still would be understood when using them. Use old words and use them in new ways that were never used before and all of that in every chapter in the highest eloquent matter like no one can use it in any better form. So it’s a very objective criteria which has been there for 14 centuries. But probably the non Arabs wouldn’t understand as the language itself is very rich( which is why it came in Arabic like search the different names for camels or friend or love in Arabic and you would understand) and the Quran came to challenge that. The Arab christians actually keep trying to challenge it but every time it’s a mockery scene, the best they have done is plagiarism from the quran itself.

[@nuzhatussaba6982]

Hlo dax...I really appreciate ua work...nd I am.olwyz patiently wating for ur video....I want u to read biography of Muhammad(pbuh) too after the end of this series.. As some wise man has said. .u can deny Allah but how can u deny Muhammad.. But tht would be possible only if u wud go through it...💓💓

[@daxvanderwal]

Hey! I think that is great advice. After this series reading a biography on Muhammad would be the best next step.

[@fuleahrazzaq]

Quran was revealed in 23 years, never edited or proof read, even the surahs were not revealed together, some verse at some time and others later based on the events and situations . But when the verses were combined into surah , you see harmony, order, eloquence and poetic form of literature, which covers a broad range of topic synced in total harmony and without any contradictions. the order of Quranic verses and the subject matter is a big science in Islam, scholars have dedicated their lives on it because its unlike any other book ever produced.

[@Talha27]

May Allah guide you to the religion of Islam, Ameen. 🕌🤲🇵🇰

[@hussinadnan2882]

Islam is a religion of peace, but it is not a religion of weakness, and this Quranic verse explains it وَقَاتِلُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ الَّذِينَ يُقَاتِلُونَكُمْ وَلَا تَعْتَدُوا ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْمُعْتَدِينَ Fight in the way of Allah those who fight against you, but do not aggress. Allah does not love the aggressors.

[@shafee1891]

Another imitability challenge, also technical: For this you should get familiarized with Arabic abjad values where each letter has a unique value. Produce a Chapter like chapter-111, which has 5 verses, 23 words, and 81 letters. Letters in each verse count as 15,19,15,17,15. This chapter has used only 21 unique letters from the alphabet. Notice all are odd numbers, so the challenge is about odd/even numbers. Make a chapter like this - just spoken once, which is instant and meaningful. Now, apply the abjad values to each word. Get the total abjad value of odd words (1st, 3rd etc.) - e.g. A123 Get the total abjad value of even words (2nd,4th, and so on) - e.g. B123 Now apply the abjad value to each letter in the chapter. Get the total abjad value of odd letters (1st, 3rd letters) - e.g. X123 Get the total abjad value of even letters (2nd,4th and so on) - e.g. Y123 Make sure you get this: A123 = X123, and B123 = Y123

[@xshiro83]

it's getting better and better. Yes about Joseph and his father , Quran keep saying beautiful patience. So for me, that is the main lesson of that surah. In the end, Joseph forgave his brothers regardless of what they did to him in past.

[@techherochannel]

purpose of life in islam is 1-serving god 2-being successors of god on earth 3-building earth and making it a better place

[@lightofilm6228]

As others have pointed out, beauty is not the point of the challenge. What makes the Quran a miracle is that it’s entirely a unique form of speech that you cannot find in any other literary work or poem in Arabic, or any other language for that matter. All traditional poems adhere to a clear poetic meter, foot, and rhythm, and if they rhyme, they are always limited by the amount of words, and the types of words they can use to maintain the flow of their poems. On the other hand, the Quran does not adhere to any poetic meter, feet, or rhythm, nor can it be identified through these means. Rather, it had its own rhythm which it is able to produce through masterful syntax and smooth arrangement of words, thus creating cadence, assonance, alliteration, etc. The Quran is also filled with literary devices such as, analogy, antiphrasis, antithesis, asydenton, chiasmus, homonymy, epizeuxis, hyperboles, isocolons, metaphors, palindromes, metonymy, polyptoton, puns, and synecdoche to name a few, as well as rhyme. All of these literary devices are employed in every single verse in the Quran. They are so frequent, even when it narrates stories and details laws, that it becomes impossible for a human mind to meaningfully imitate, especially considering the fact that all pre-Islamic Arabic poetry, or any poetry for that matter, does not even come close in their use of literary devices. Poems are also often vague and unclear, and use synonyms/different words just to create rhyme/rhythm, but the Quran by contrast, is very clear and does not contain such forced rhyme/rhythm. I’ll give you one example from a single verse from the Quran: ‎ذِكْرُ رَحْمَتِ رَبِّكَ عَبْدَهُۥ زَكَرِيَّآ⁠ “a reminder of your Lord’s mercy to His servant Zachariah,” [Quran 19:2] There is so much going in this small verse that you can NEVER pick up through the translations. First we read the word ذكر (T͟Hikr), which means “Remember/Mention”, the phrase رَحْمَتِ رَبِّكَ contains alliteration because the letter “r” is repeated in the two words, then we get to the name زَكَرِيَّآ (Zachariah). This name in Hebrew is a combination of the word, זכר (“Zakr”) “remember”/“mention”, and “יה” (“Yah”). The word זכר (Zakr”) in Hebrew is cognate to the Arabic ذكر (“Thikr”), they both mean “remember/mention”. So essentially, there’s a wordplay in this word that only someone who understands both Hebrew and Arabic will be able to catch. The Quran is basically saying “Remember/mention your Lord’s mercy to His servant Remember/mention Yah”. And better yet, throughout the surah, the same rhyme scheme starting with the name “Zachariah” is used throughout. The Quran is filled with these types of wordplays and literary devices. Even when a verse from the Quran appears normal by all means on the surface, it always contains deeper meanings that cannot always be perceived. This is why the Quran cannot successfully be imitated, and never has been. The top poets of Arabia at the time of Muhammad [SAW] couldn’t compete nor explain it, and hence had to resort to calling it “sorcery” or an “incantation” from other lands, even though objectively, that doesn’t make any sense. *”Say, ‘If mankind and the jinn gathered in order to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like of it, even if they were to each other assistants.’”* (Quran 17:88) Hope you’re sincere in seeking truth.

[@bragzcritics157]

Joseph story teaches trust in God

[@adilsoomar1742]

Allah guide u brother... All praises are due to Him Alone.

[@slightlyopinionated8107]

I’m Muslim and I like watching your videos. I don’t agree with many of your conclusions but you seem like a sincere person and I respect that. I know it’s a lot to ask but consider the following idea “content”. After you’re done with your Quran series can you make a series where you compare the things you’ve learnt in the Quran to things in the Bible? I think that’d be great Also this is probably the first video I agree with you on. I don’t believe the Prophet is mentioned in the song of Solomon

[@daxvanderwal]

Hey! Thanks for commenting, I appreciate you being respectful. I don't think that's a lot to ask at all! As of right now right after this series I want to compare the reliability of the Bible and Quran and then start comparing specific ideas found within them. And of course if there's specific topics along the way you think I should cover then let me know!

[@savesheikhjarrah1480]

“Patient in the present” I like that

[@techherochannel]

12:30 This challenge isnt for everyone it was fpr the arabic speakers since the language miracles of the quran are in arabic, the challenge for them is to create one surah like it since they were language genuieses and since they were saying that the prophet wrote it, so if muhammed the arabic man who couldn't read or write and he didnt even learn peotry created something like this, how cant you create like it?

[@fizzakhanfizzakhan717]

May Allah guide you and open your heart for islam!

[@moafro6524]

What convinced me of the Quran being from god to be honest are too many to count. And as time goes I keep getting more prove. The latest came 3 weeks ago, the first mention of the word sun in the Quran and the last mention are separated by 5778 ayas. 5778 Kelvin is the temp of the surface of the sun.

[@adilct3467]

in the recap, the song of Solomon 5:16 might not be explaining about Muhammad(s) but, some of your supporting arguments were not appropriate( i guess). i admit that i don't know the heebru meaning of it, but the pronunciation is almost identical. cos throughout the video you took many prophets' names and compared their heebru pronunciation and Arabic pronunciation it is ass similar as that..! i don't argue that the verse is talking about the prophet Muhammad(s) . cos i don't know much about that verse.

[@AtomicCodeX]

4th comment The story of Joseph has a miracle as well in the Qur'an, where the bible claims Joseph went to the pharaoh of Egypt but the Qur'an says king of Egypt, the Qur'an mentions Pharaoh at the time of mosas. Historically, Egypt referred to the palace as the pharaoh and the king lived inside. In the new kingdom period the word pharaoh referred to the ruler. So the Qur'an referred to the king in the time of Joseph around the old kingdom time when isreal was only 12 people basically. And referred to the pharaoh later at the time of moses when isreal was a nation in the new kingdom of Egypt. A historical accuracy not in the bible, that makes me believe, the Qur'an was not copied from the bible, but god just literally said what happened at the time.

[@MrHamjul]

13:30 This video i shared from dawah wise that brother mansur and muhammad ali was really one of the best answer and explanation about that subject of "test of imitability" that you talked about, it consist of 3 part. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpe7hKikeZWMkNE (Linguistic Miracle Of Quran I Mansur I Part 1 audio fixed). May allah gave us more knowledge and understanding upon truth.

[@Sajid-lp9ss]

there are many reasons why the Quran is the word of God. Firstly it has absolutely zero contradiction in it. secondly it contains miracles and scientific miracles which there is no way people of 1400years ago would have known about. thirdly it is preserved word by word, letter by letter and it is in perfect form

[@tba555]

When is Episode 5 releasing?

[@aqibabdullah2922]

Ahmed is also a name of our Prophet Muhammad. It could be M-AHMED in the bible. Also the sound changes in Hebrew from Arabic. The 's' of Salam in Arabic is pronounced as 'sh' shalom in Hebrew.Also sometimes the 'h' of Arabic is pronounced as 'kh' in Hebrew. So Ahmed in Arabic and M-Akhmed in Hebrew.

[@Oddatelierent]

From my understanding Islam is a peaceful religion... it doesn't say you should go out of your way to harm others...

[@ZAMMY7]

As for the test , the quran is addressing the arabic scholars who were practicing experts in poetry and language in what linguist believe is the most eloquent and sophisticated language and they have failed . You have to see arabic as a linguistic science . Every muslim from every race acknowledges that fact and in turn learn arabic .

[@Lord-Of-The-Mysteries.]

Muhammad'I'm is Muhammad, the I'm is plural of respect in Hebrew and of course, it doesn't sound Muhammad in Hebrew it is a different language after all .

[@ChristIsMuslim]

Muhammad + im / word of "im" is for respect in aramaic

[@wendykpop]

Yes

[@ChristIsMuslim]

The Quran is the word of God because the language is very beautiful for people who understand Arabic, and there are scientific proofs and prophecies of exact events in the Quran. You can watch Islamic scholars who talk about that, this is only a small part that I can give : 1. The Strait of Gibraltar which connects the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean. (Surah ar-Rahman : 19-20) 2. Fire under the sea (surah at-Tur : 6) 3. Solar system orbit (surah al-Anbiya : 33) 4. The BigBang Theory (surah al-Anbiya : 30) 5. Rainwater process (surah ar-Rum : 48-49) 6. River on the seabed (surah al-Furqan : 53) 7. Human fingerprints (surah al-Qiyamah : 3) 8. The corpses of the Pharaohs who lived at the time of Moses are still intact (surah Yunus : 92) 9. The victory of the Muslims at that time was like the conquest of Mecca, where this verse came down when Muslims were driven out and weak (surah 48:28) 10. The victory of the Romans who had been pushed and lost several times by the Persians (surah 30: 1-7) etc...

[@BasharAref]

The story of Joseph in the Bible says that the ruler was called Pharaoh at that time, and this is historically incorrect, but when the Qur’an came, this was corrected by naming the ruler “Al-Aziz”, and therefore my friend, my question to you is why do you believe that the Bible is the word of God ?

[@SonOfAdam314]

i forgot to tell you, in story of joseph in the Quran the king of Egypt the king didn't called as pharo in time of prophet joseph the Quran called him king.And in Moses time called pharo.Comparing to the Bible both in joseph time and Moses they called pharo. But after the historical studies of Egypt ancient language “ Hieroglyphs “ writing they said in joseph time the king never called as pharo. I hope u search that .

[@shafee1891]

Test of imitability (technical): Can you produce verbally, in your first try, instantly a meaningful chapter, which rhymes beautifully, an easily memorisable chapter with 93 verses? I will give you a letter use this letter in this pattern: - In 15 verses, this letter will appear only once in each verse - In 15 verses, this letter will appear only twice in each verse - In 15 verses, this letter will appear only three times in each verse - In 15 verses, this letter will appear only four times in each verse - In 15 verses, this letter will appear only five times in each verse (e.g. Chapter 27 Of the Quran - 27th letter in the alphabet )

[@ziadsalah6233]

What makes me myself to believe in Quran strongly brother Dax is that(I’m an average Muslim btw, but I do believe in my religion strongly Alhamdulilah), anyway what makes me strongly believe is that the signs in the Quran, cause if I was there before Mohammed(SAW) and I found somebody says “I’m prophet”, I would tell him show me a miracle, but we can find miracles in Quran, like science facts before it has been even discovered, and like translating one of the heroghlefic(one of Egyptian old way of writing*Pharoahs*) sentences, and some other miracles yk, that’s why I believe in it strongly

[@daxvanderwal]

Thanks for sharing brother!

[@ziadsalah6233]

@@daxvanderwal Always a pleasure💙

[@RuleofThehyperbolic]

the purpose of life is to get in heaven. also god said that he only created jin and man only to worship him. surah al-thariyat 56

[@khayoomar2941]

It's surah Al-Thariyat

[@RuleofThehyperbolic]

@@khayoomar2941 thx for the clarification

[@ziadsalah6233]

Your pronunciation is getting better fr, MashAllah I just wanna add something, when one of the companions asked the prophet Mohammed(SAW) about is there a prophets that we[as people who are not prophets] never heard about, the prophet Mohammed(SAW) said yes there is prophets we have never heard about, the hadith is: And it came in the hadith of Abu Dharr with Abu Hatim bin Hibban and others that he asked the Prophet, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, about the messengers and about the prophets, and the Prophet, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, said: The prophets are one hundred and twenty-four thousand and the messengers are three hundred and thirteen, and in the narration of Abu Umamah: three hundred and fifteen, but they are two hadiths They are weak according to scholars, and they have evidence, but they are also weak hadiths, but all the scholars agreed that there’s prophets and messengers that are not mentioned in Quran, bible or Torah, and there’s also prophets who are mentioned in Quran and not mentioned in the Bible and Torah, and the same with the Bible and Torah. And Ibn Kathir and Ibn Ishaq mentioned two of the prophets of the Children of Israel who were not mentioned in the Qur’an, which are Armeia and shai’ya, and they are from the prophets that God SWT told them that Jesus and Mohammed peace and blessings be upon them will come

[@WeyardWiz]

8:05 regarding hadith, be careful. Most hadiths are false and exaggerated. Hadith is very controversial in islam, and major islamic factions are split on its face value. The Quran never mandates the hadith as a tenet of islam (shahada) testimony of faith. So this is a sensitive area that I think you could critique as: ”this sounds sus, surely must be false” and you certainly could question it since it's not the word of God. It doesn't matter if ”scholars” or ”sheikhs” or ”imams” ”verified” its authenticity, they aren't prophets and they could have been under threat in their time to twist it for the ruler's desires or even their own desire, such as control

[@bragzcritics157]

There's 300 million Arabic speaker and during 1400 years non of them poets or writers wich we have allot of them was able to defeat this challenge So you can see this challenge results nowadays

[@leasproject4073]

What is the purpose of life? A very good question that was first introduced in verse 30 of Al bakara... again as I have highlighted in my previous comments. The meaning of Islam can be understood in several ways . However they all lead to the same meaning... back to purpose of life, to answer I we need to understand a number of concepts: Worship in Islam I every act that you do with the hope of servicing Allah's will. So if you go to sleep hoping to rest in order for you to work hard the next day within the boundaries of Allah's will, your sleep is considered worship. Allah does not need our worship. So basically the creator has no need from the creation... this presents a question of why worship if he does not need it? Will the acts of worship through the 5 pillars of Islam or observing Allah in our life are things that are good for us as individuals and communities. Scientifically proven. So Allah, like a loving parent, order us to perform these acts that are good to us and punish us if we don't do what is good... like punishing your child if they don't brush their teeth. Most children view it as a chore to satisfy their parents... hope you see the analogy. We worship Allah out of Taqwa.. which is a concern meaning that we do these things that are good for us with the hope of appeasing Allah. Not because praying for example is a good meditation technique... rather we pray because we love Allah and seek his satisfaction... hard concept to understand... it took me a while to. So the purpose of life is to build this humanity Community on earth and make a peaceful and comfortable place for humanity to live through the generations. Those who support this plan and seek its fulfilment will go to heaven. Those who oppose or hinder this plan will go to hell... remember that we discuss humanity as a whole... so when you act in a certain way, you should observe your action future effect. We see examples of this in muslim history like Omar prayer incident in Jerusalem... Hope I answered part of your question with my blabbering

[@exuaf]

Why i believe quran is the word of god 1) the language 2) preservation 3) no contradictions 4) free from any mistakes 5) the miracles or facts

[@sofianeabdelkrimbouterfas5457]

brother, you didn't read the comment that I took a long time to write in your episode n°3

[@amaniceh]

mine neither it seems lol

[@reralt]

He needs a better way to get responses. Comments are a terrible way of interaction. He should give us his email id. That would be better.

[@WeyardWiz]

@@reralt He responded to my comment in ep3 but not previous episodes. Being a youtuber with hundreds of comments can be challenging to sort through

[@maj-r9c]

Put the Quran and bible in a test and let us see which book fails ????

[@daxvanderwal]

I did a whole series about this on my channel! Watch my 3 videos about the Bible vs Quran and see what you think

[@ra_tw_01tqw76]

Smile2jannah actually posted a video recently on the possible conversion of Tristan tate. On that video he talks about the test of imitability which I think u will like and will answer your question on that :)

[@syed_wahid]

Waiting for the moment when you embrace islam (deen)

[@shaziasiddiqui6769]

Approach a Holy book with humility and not with arrogance and ignorance 😊 Ask Almighty God (Allah to guide to the truth. ✅🙏🏽

[@zyriexxx6150]

There is a video of why is the quran on Arabic you will understand it

[@sisi-qw9xs]

I want to say a point why the challenge was directed to the jinn as well, because the jinn also had poets and they used to teach humans poetry This is a natural thing and it is seen in this era. Some singers receive songs and music from the inspiration of the jinn and devils

[@shafiqahad24]

Look up the ring composition in the Quran to understand what it means by the beauty of Quran. How it was revealed and how it is impossible to come up with something like it.

[@dunyamin]

Quran is the word of Allah because it's preserved (proven), huge scientifical miracles (proven), mathematical consistency, poetrical beauty...