One side seems angry and the other side seems at peace. The most high gives his people peace.
@tatosmcАй бұрын
Ever heard of ignorance is bliss?
@1004jvniorАй бұрын
This is such a disgusting thing to say
@KamBB-gu3pvАй бұрын
Gives people logical fallacies
@Trilltracks1Ай бұрын
@@tatosmc the right thing to do when you call people ignorant is to explain how so … but im sure you’re just here because believers trigger you.
@tatosmcАй бұрын
@@Trilltracks1 lmao maybe as much as u were when u decided to make this comment. but just to inform u, when ur ignorant about something it can bring a false sense of peace of mind, unlike if u knew the reality u wouldnt be so peaceful. now that has to do with ur comment because u and the Christians are in that ignorant bliss. was that clear enough for u?
@VeeesFlawsАй бұрын
I think people attach their experience with the church to their relationship to God and Christ and as an adult you need to seek God on your own
@djchinot7229Ай бұрын
But why cant you believe in god without necessarily using any religion as a channel. In other words why is it important to know about who was around him who is who why can’t I believe in him and why can’t I talk to him without being in a religion.
@luyolomifyАй бұрын
@@djchinot7229they love being in a cult that’s why. These people need to grow up.
@shanicebryant2805Ай бұрын
@@djchinot7229Hi there, just wanted to share with you that yes you can absolutely “believe in God” just like the demons believe , but sadly the belief in God does not justify sin or justify wrongdoing if God is truly Holy and a Righteous Judge. If you want to be justified before a Holy God, (who by the way cannot dwell or fellowship with sin or wickedness) then you need an intermediary to mend the BROKEN relationship. Jesus Christ is the intermediary between God and Man. He clarifies and reveals who God truly is, that He is Love but also Perfectly Righteous- He also justifies man before God and takes our guilt as His Own. Jesus is able to do this because He never sinned
@mrs.camilliajones3560Ай бұрын
@@djchinot7229That's the best part He has given us full access to Him. We don't need a priest or pastor to go before us because Jesus did it for us. I used to think I didn't need the church but the closer I got/get to Christ the more my soul craves the word and to have righteous counsel from those who have studied theology. It also encourages me to learn more on my own to strengthen my discernment so that I be able to recognize false prophets. It's like being an addict and getting clean, you no longer want to hang around the people you once got high with you want to be around like minded people. Iron sharpens iron and I know sadly there has been a lot of people misled and misused in the church but the right church is a body and we're called to be together. The body can't function with just the hands it requires all parts to fully function.
@JesusLovesyou..1John3.6Ай бұрын
yes that is why it’s important to mature and know our identity and to get to know Jesus ourselves by spending time with Him talking to Him and reading the Bible 😊❤
@markHamilton-x2vАй бұрын
"A pot could be used as a weapon, that doesnt mean you shouldn't cook with it. Powerful!
@baonemogomotsi7138Ай бұрын
Yeah, comparing a whole religion with a history of bloodshed to pots is ludicrous 😂
@beingroxyАй бұрын
@@baonemogomotsi7138 still truth.
@ChrisGoldieАй бұрын
Just because anything can be a weapon. Doesnt mean what u believe in hasnt been weaponized while you believe
@Dr.Beetlejuice110Ай бұрын
@@beingroxy no it isn't. Any tool that causes pain is immediately in our society put on checks and balances. A gun for example is constantly under scrutiny about how it can be gotten and who can have it. I think religion needs to be the same.
@username97112Ай бұрын
@@baonemogomotsi7138 People misusing the truth doesn’t change or lessen the truth.
@madelinesparks424425 күн бұрын
“They are strong in their conviction that Jesus is their Lord and savior. Nothing I say can change their mind.” What a compliment that was spoken in such aggression, meant to be negative.
@darienrobinson181018 күн бұрын
I love your outlook on that comment in the video. It has blessed me!
@brianajohnson490517 күн бұрын
lol right
@heaven2heart17 күн бұрын
that's what I was thinking!! in the early days of christianity, romans would throw christians in the colosseum - their conviction toward their faith and Jesus in the face of torment or death is part of what made christianity become wildly popular in Rome. It's that very characteristic of faith that makes you a christian.
@nwabisazibuthe982317 күн бұрын
The fact that I even emphasized it with a smile I my face😂
@keithm526316 күн бұрын
I said the same thing when i heard her say that!! Yes Jesus! Thank you Father!! The devil knows the truth and God spoke through that woman without her even knowing.
@DaSmoov54Ай бұрын
Props to the Christian women who represented Christ beautifully.
@CiaraCeleste-ThatGirlАй бұрын
Agreed
@pro-muffins2721Ай бұрын
🎉they did an outstanding job.
@Dr.Beetlejuice110Ай бұрын
They interrupted the speakers multiple times and really didn't listen.
@emiie.effectАй бұрын
@@DaSmoov54 props to everyone who had the courage to express their point of view
@luyolomifyАй бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@drdomspeaksАй бұрын
Those who considered themselves former Christians i realize most of their decisions were based on what people did or were doing vs God in their life. This always makes me sad because the Lord is such a good Father and we limit him based on our interactions with people 😢. Praying for all these ladies. Enjoyed this conversation.
@divinedevon9213Ай бұрын
No it was based on researching every religion . Stop assuming .
@HgdfttjhdАй бұрын
You can't prouve that "god" exist. What's the difference between you and someone who believe his imaginary friend do exist
@KentariusАй бұрын
@TheLoveBugzimagine judging a whole group of people 🤡🤡🤡
@AbstractVision87Ай бұрын
@@drdomspeaks oh wee bars!
@abiolamakayАй бұрын
THIS!!!
@nickaltonАй бұрын
My Christian women here representing the Kingdom! Standing firm on their faith! Love it!
@solomonessix6909Ай бұрын
It amazes me that any African who became the victim of The Doctrine of Discovery issued by Pope Alexander VI in 1493 believes that the Church would provide them with a source of power to free themselves from the yoke of bondage which the church authorized. The church is literally responsible and created the scenario in which our ancestors were trafficked across the Atlantic Ocean in chains. Furthermore, Christianity was influenced heavily by Platonic philosophy and borrows from a plethora of pagan sources including Homer’s Odyssey, the Instruction of Amenemope, the Epic of Gilgamesh and others. The women believe because they are conditioned to do so and not because they weighed the evidence to verify the truth claims of the authorized propaganda for social control. Source information: -How Augustine imported Plato's views into Christianity. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6fRfoWpjr57oKs -Inside the Mind of God: Plato's Influence on Ancient Judaism and Christianity. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIfMiWWqgNWEbsk -Greek Philosophy in Christian Thought. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXzRdZyBlJ6gl8U -Plato, Aristotle and Christianity. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZLRlGCepbWle7c -Egyptian Myths EXPOSE the Hidden Roots of Christianity! kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5Kqq2ebedZ8i6M -Even Dr. MLK Jr. was aware of the pagan influences of Christianity he wrote about it in an essay stored at Stanford University. "The Influence of the Mystery Religions on Christianity" by MLK jr. kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/documents/influence-mystery-religions-christianity -Dr. Knut Heim, Proverbs, Lecture 14, Proverbs 22-24 and Amenemope kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6KVgommqqmMopo -PROOF Homer Inspired the Gospels! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnnHnXmiZ8adr6s -Here is the Papal Bull from Pope Alexander VI the athorized slavey. www.nlm.nih.gov/nativevoices/timeline/171.html
@Anonymous-m3yАй бұрын
of course your black lmao
@joechucks1555Ай бұрын
@@Anonymous-m3y whats wrong with that?
@truth9415Ай бұрын
SMH
@giftijАй бұрын
Just a scenario of empty barrels doing what they know best@@joechucks1555
@c.jilliangray15 күн бұрын
As a journalist and host I must say this host did an amazing job! She was calm, she let them speak, she corrected them when needed and did a great job of simply letting the conversation unfold.
@pudderhon3 күн бұрын
I completely agree. I feel like she’d be an awesome therapist
@usvi7684Ай бұрын
-Had no servants, yet they called him Master. -Had no degree, yet they called him Teacher. -Had no medicines, yet they called him Healer. -He had no army, yet kings feared Him. -He won no Wars, yet He conquered the world. -He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. -He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today. Jesus Christ 🙏🏽
@starlaks588Ай бұрын
Amen!
@divinedevon9213Ай бұрын
JESUS WAS A SLAVESHIP. KING JAMES DIDNT ADD TO BIBLE UNTIL AFTER IT WAS A SLAVESHIP😊
@oleeshanorris5343Ай бұрын
His glory is amazing how lucky we are. Praise be to God.
@beingroxyАй бұрын
@@usvi7684 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@pro-muffins2721Ай бұрын
❤yes Lord Jesus Christ is The King
@GoneVoicesАй бұрын
When you look at the mannerisms of both groups it makes me proud to be a believer of Christ . Even when the believers heard what the other group said they were patient and attentive. The spirit of the Lord is real and I pray they one day have encounter with him
@ArtKrishnamurtiАй бұрын
Exactly! Everybody lives by their beliefs, and bears the fruits of those beliefs. Even the atheist.
@LaurielavendarАй бұрын
A group of 3-4 people is not representative of an entire demographic.
@calmnrelaxedАй бұрын
Cap...no such thing as a former Christian. Former atheists, for sure, but no former Christians
@Moon-MarieАй бұрын
@@calmnrelaxedthat's an ignorant statement. And false to boot.
@emmanuelginikanwa283Ай бұрын
@@calmnrelaxed Word!! Its like when you go black, there's no going back 😊
@vicky_aluko.aАй бұрын
“A pot can be used as a weapon, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t cook with it.” WORDDDDD
@muslimwhostryingАй бұрын
God doesnt have eyeballs, anus etc. He neither begets nor is begotten. He doesn't die at the hands of His enemies. He is neither born out of a woman nor needs mankind He is eternal Allah is God❤️
@amari117Ай бұрын
@muslimwhostryingYour Allah is depicted as having two right hands,a single “beautiful” shin, a foot, and eyes 😭. Your Allah can’t take the form of man simply because he isn’t all-powerful. My God can do all things, including taking the form of man if He pleases.
@Sabrina-g5k7fАй бұрын
@@amari117do you have proof from the Quran supporting your blasphemous claims? we all worship the same God. Allah is just the Arabic word for God that even Arab Christian’s and Jews use. Also y’all claim Jesus is god but also the son-of god which is completely illogical and stupid. Plus you guys believe an innocent man aka Jesus deserved to die brutally for YOUR sins. Atleast in Islam we take accountability for our sins
@JesusLovesyou..1John3.6Ай бұрын
praise God 😊❤❤
@schonestadt2712Ай бұрын
@muslimwhostrying oh brother, you also know that God can become a human if He wanted to. Now i know you are totally unaware why God wanted to or had to take human form ! its a long one but .. 1. God is the law maker ,God had a kingdom before we were made, He made certain rules and laws which everybody ( angels, princes ,celestial beings etc) follows and God is a Just God so He doesnt do smthg that goes against the law ,bcz law breaker is a sinner and God doesnt sin. One law is that whoever sins must die. So, when Adam sinned ,it was not like u think or quran says, Adam and eve sinned and God threw them out of heaven and after sometime your allah says its ok son ,i forgive . Nooo , its not that. What happened when Adam decided to eat the forbidden fruit . ( remember God made Adam and eve in His own image ,no angel has been made in His very own image so ,,Human or adam was suppose to be one of the most powerful in the ranking of authority in the kingdom of God and Satan knew it . ) Now , Satan was already in desire of power and rebellious against God when he tempted eve and adam to eat forbidden fruit .Why Satan did that? He would legally get the power and authority that was to be handed by God to Adam and his children. why? Bible says ,whoever you obey or yeild to ,you are his slave( just paraphrasing ) so bcz Adam didnt obey God but Satan now Adam became slave to whom ? Satan!! Now , Satan legally but deceivingly took that power from Adam successfully. Satan was already one of the most powerful angel in ranking ,now in addition to that, He got the ranking of Adam ,i hope u r getting it . Also, Adam or human now became dirty with sin, slave to Satan, God was no longer His master( lawfully) Now, Jesus took human form to correct all these things in a legal way. Lawfully. Blood indicates smthg profound in the realm of spirit or kingdom of heaven .Life. When Jesus died, 1.He cleansed us from the sins, 2.We got our authority back legally and lawfully through Jesus . We now have authority over the satan and his demons.We can now replace them from their position in the realm of the spirit. 3. We are no longer slave to satan and sin 4. We couldnt come to Lord and His presence without blood of Jesus, cus we were dirty, now, we can come boldly in His presence 5. We are now seated in the heavenly places. 6. We are now the Sons of God. ,no longer the children of serpent. 7. Devil cannot accuse us anymore for our sins and held us accountable . 8. Blood of Jesus now set us free . It was needed for God to come as human ,as a second adam and to fix everything that first adam messed up ,
@tayybeauty24 күн бұрын
One of these sweet ladies is a member/leader of my church. She did an exceptional job representing the body of Christ here. So proud of you queen! 💜
@Bubba.mitchell46038 күн бұрын
Which one is her?
@Lvkidz2Ай бұрын
The lady in the lilac sweater is ANGRY!!!! Sheesh, praying for her total healing of the mind, soul and spirit!
@IssacAintPlayinАй бұрын
How you know 😂
@Lvkidz2Ай бұрын
@@IssacAintPlayincause baby I don’t recall not one time her responses weren’t a tad bit aggressive. I need for her to come back to Jesus. 😆 Ok let me stop the foolishness on this here tube
@howshebrightАй бұрын
If you're not angry at your "god" its because you enjoy being enslaved.
@ohemaa1506Ай бұрын
Oh yeah Kim was aggressive in all submission
@marionlessingtoniii3712Ай бұрын
Uhhhh I wouldn’t call it angry, I’d call it more frustration with the unwillingness to call a thing a thing.
@savedonlybygrace4705Ай бұрын
Lilac sweater was right there is nothing that you can say to change their mind because they are firmerly rooted in Christ period. He is in them and they in him..he saved their lives and they believe him.
@lacirichards1743Ай бұрын
Absolutely! She was so angry about that! I'm not open minded about my faith in Jesus! Nothing you can say to me can make me not believe!
@GrahamVarnellАй бұрын
@@lacirichards1743🙏🙏🙏
@larteywoods5761Ай бұрын
very well said
@blackcherry6877Ай бұрын
Right and she is so mad. I love when they show who their god is. They have his same energy.
@damolaarin8488Ай бұрын
to be close minded about anything to the point where you can’t challenge your own beliefs is not only what pushes non christian’s from following your religion, but also isn’t a sign of faith but stupidity when god himself called you to be wise
@esthermulenga6062Ай бұрын
'The world doesn't give you your identity, therefore it can't take it away!! Man, these women are representing the Kingdom!!!!! LOVE THIS
@jue82726 күн бұрын
So you get ur identity from a book with talking burning bushes and snakes...your right we're the crazy ones👍
@salserokorsou23 күн бұрын
Aren't glad you weren't borne in those times that your god commanded that your father could sell you into slavery?
@salserokorsou22 күн бұрын
Exodus 21:7 If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. That's the book you get your identity from?
@aenia21 күн бұрын
@@jue827 but yall are the ones who believe the earth just came from nowhere and from nothing and that this design, how the cells in our bodies fight for us or how plants can photosynthesis to make their own food and nutrients, came from nowhere and how yall are the ones who believe in science but then that can’t be proven and isn’t backed up by science.
@misanthr0pic8 күн бұрын
all they’re doing is repeating cult talking points. this isn’t something special lol
@nadja549520 күн бұрын
Christian girlies are literally glowing!! They’re attentive, listening but standing firm, I’ll be on that side any day 👏
@rachellewakefield7260Ай бұрын
her rebuking immediately when she said they were all God 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@demetriusjackson3767Ай бұрын
But she didn't lie either. The Bible kinda tells us we are God in human form and besides the word "God' is just a title that anybody/ anything can wear. It's just a word but to act as your higher self is God. That's what the Bible teaches us but no Christian ain't trynna understand that
@asharimosley4175Ай бұрын
@@demetriusjackson3767 she’s saying “ we’re made in God image “ we’re not God and should never call ourselves God lol that’s insane there is only ONE God .. we should strive to embody the positive attributes of him .. his love, compassion, kindness, and justice, while acknowledging that as humans, we can never truly be God ourselves. We can take God's characteristics without claiming divine power or authority and she meant it like she WAS God which isn’t true .
@senditaaronАй бұрын
@@demetriusjackson3767no it doesn’t say that please send me that verse
@demetriusjackson3767Ай бұрын
@@senditaaron idk why Christians are so lazy in doing their own research. Google is free, there's more shitt out here to read than just the Bible. Go do your research because I'm definitely not telling you just to be saying it. I know what I'm talking about.
@demetriusjackson3767Ай бұрын
@senditaaron first off, why would I do the research for you when we're both on the internet. If we were in person, there would be one thing, but if you trynna debate over YT, then you need to use Google. Secondly, even if I showed you the proof, you still wouldn't believe me, and I expect you not to especially coming from somebody that believes in a "sky daddy". Be realistic
@TelaJillianАй бұрын
I ain't even gone lie those women look stress free, their faces glowing, and the other women look stressed, depressed and lost in the eyes... Says a lot. Jesus is King 👑
@blessingknowseverything9609Ай бұрын
Can’t wait to get to that point
@MTL_prodzАй бұрын
❤💯💯💯
@yassine8935Ай бұрын
That’s a very superficial thing to say anyone can look stress free and no be religious and can be stressed and be religious it’s all about coping mechanisms if your is praying and mine is more scientifically based I can garuntee their isn’t a difference .
@DR19346Ай бұрын
Period.
@Real.Flowers.Ай бұрын
I saw opposite; the other group appeared confident and the religious group seemed lost, fearful, and insecure. Regardless, I’m happy they all have a loving relationship with God.
@alison7707Ай бұрын
Lilac lady is aaaaaangry. Proud of my Sisters in Christ, their poise and eloquence. Pure peace.
@animenome308Ай бұрын
she right tho there are literal factual inaccuracies in the bible (10:50) , stay pressed while you continue to gaslight on the fact that the book y'all believe in is special and wasn't written by barbaric men of a time where they treated women like slaves not to mention the literal slaves lmfao
@amari117Ай бұрын
@@animenome308the factual inaccuracies in the Bible almost all perpetually come from lack of general knowledge from the time period (meaning that we literally do not have the ancient evidence required to mediate between certain viewpoints). For example a “factual inaccuracy” that people like to point out is the Herod’s reign and the census within the Gospels being placed within the same time period. This argument is usually led by saying that Herod’s rule ended in 4BC, therefore the Census of Quirinius which occurred in AD 6 couldn’t have possibly aligned with the given timeline found inside of the Gospels which depicts them both as happening relatively close to one another. This would be an incredibly important, significant issue for the Bible’s infallibility if we didn’t have other historical figures to keep in consideration when viewing the text. If we take a deeper look into the supposed historical inaccuracy we find that it was much more likely that Quirinius actually had ruled multiple times and in these periods there were two censuses taken, the second during AD 6, and the first closer to Jesus’s birth. I’ll elaborate more on the topic if you’d like. Regardless of what you think the Bible is special, even without the religious connotation it’s still a huge historical treasure which has paved the way for the destabilization of slavery, and the establishing of deserved recognition for woman rights (both things you cited).
@adayinthelight7575Ай бұрын
Don’t be so judgmental.
@animenome308Ай бұрын
@amari117 idk much about that example u gave so I cannot argue against the points you've made there N nobody is saying the bible is not a historical text in the same way that the Quran or other religious texts are. I could make the exact same point for other religions as well in terms of describing accurate historical events (Although +++on uncertainty and we know that there are false historical claims that you cannot simply discount by saying the historical record is incomplete. Also laughable you credit the bible for women's rights and ending slavery when there are far more tangible and concrete examples in our recent history and also don't act like Abrahamic religions of which Christianity doesn't get exemption status in continuing to perpetuate the suffering of women, children and minorities like lgbt ppl... Religious ppl acting like secular society is amoral but that's just bs
@marstopia7743Ай бұрын
And this is the reason why. Y’all are so inconsiderate
@ChrystalTamar17 күн бұрын
I always find it interesting listening to discussions like this as a Christian. Most people who leave the faith tend to do so based on how they were treated in the church which leads me to believe that it’s not God that caused them to turn away but people who didn’t reflect Christ in the right way. I really pray that their hearts will be able to experience the love of Christ in all its fullness and genuineness again in full acceptance 💖🙏🏾
@tamarascottonline727715 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing as I was watching.
@SantiagoCanArt8 күн бұрын
Yes sadly they never had there eyes on God but on people and they were disappointed and this is the result
@rmorine63947 күн бұрын
Amen! We are called to be ambassadors to represent our King accurately in this foreign land.
@shanihenry4025Ай бұрын
This was so enlightening. I am a Christian but I lost my way some years ago but Jesus never gave up on me. Let’s keep praying for the sisters who have been hurt by the Church.
@BiggTyM10Ай бұрын
They believed in the church and not God
@ElleStuart-u2zАй бұрын
@@BiggTyM10 that’s easy to do when we place emphasis on church rules, policies and religion and lack emphasis on spiritual growth and manifestation of the power of God. Most people who call themselves Christians are more than likely trying church as well.
@crystalwashington9280Ай бұрын
Bingo@@BiggTyM10
@loveyalotzАй бұрын
Same i decided to research for myself
@sprklejumpropedollАй бұрын
Girl Jesus was a fraud and God is not real
@lizziesotoАй бұрын
One thing I noticed was that the ladies on the left were so respectful and listened to their opponents on the right while the ladies on the right seemed irritated and sometimes just ignored them...
@AsiaLeiMarieeАй бұрын
This!!! The woman on the end of the right side barely made eye contact… lord Jesus
@sanaiahmonet23 күн бұрын
It's just church hurt. They don't know any better
@tamaracampbell767221 күн бұрын
Yes 🙌🏽 Let her cook!!
@vanessacabrera211517 күн бұрын
Them demons were mad lol!!
@speaktruth998916 күн бұрын
Exactly
@cosmically_creative1986Ай бұрын
“The world didn’t give you your identity, so they can’t take it away” 😮💨
@Lioness_EsАй бұрын
Amen! It is in God that we move, live, and have our being! 🙏🏾💝
@_ansntg_Ай бұрын
"Your identity is in eternity and your homeland is heaven"
@sprklejumpropedollАй бұрын
The world literally did..
@MayowaAlaladeАй бұрын
Word!!!
@Sicoy28Ай бұрын
@@cosmically_creative1986 yea our parents and environment created our identity
@shardeen78028 күн бұрын
What a difference there is between the demeanor of both groups... Jesus truly transforms us from the inside out. The only difference between us, and the unsaved, is Jesus. May God continue work on them 🙌🏾
@salserokorsou22 күн бұрын
@shardeen780 yeah that's why black people were slaves for centuries. Cuz Jesus was to nice to do something about it.
@salserokorsou22 күн бұрын
@shardeen780 why doesn't Jesus teach you to be honest? Cuz I never met an honest Christian in my whole life.
@jaivingloverАй бұрын
This consistent theme of: "I'm going to make a HEAVY claim" and then immediately followed by "But I'm not going to show proof of value, that's for you to find"
@vanessavazquez516720 күн бұрын
Very irritating lol like why say it/bring it up
@chiporeid11 күн бұрын
What’s the proof that there is no God?
@elaine.v.b.02989 күн бұрын
Well at the end of the day, it SHOULD be a journey of each to their own. It's an individual choice for everyone. So yes... it's meant to be explored and talked about because it can be perceived in So So many ways.
@richmondmathapo7435Ай бұрын
In my view anyone who calls themselves a former Christian, never had a real encounter with Christ. Once you've experience Him there's no turning back, no matter how astray you may go, once you've encountered Jesus your life is never the same.
@wames7257Ай бұрын
Don't you find it interesting how in the bible there are extraordinary claims like Moses splitting the Red Sea or Elijah bringing down a beam of fire or talking donkeys, but the only evidence modern day christians have for their god is Jesus saving them from suicide or relieving the guilt of having an abortion or some other nonsense like curing their anxiety and depression, things we can't prove are supernatural, why is that?
@KCClarАй бұрын
It is because of my encounter with Christ that I do not subscribe to religion. Especially Christianity. Jesus never said to accept him as your lord and savior, Paul said that. Only the red words in the Bible matter (or should) if you call yourself a follower of Jesus, and even more if you call him God.
@richmondmathapo7435Ай бұрын
@KCClar And how was your encounter with Christ? If you don't mind me asking.
@thebutterflybaby7795Ай бұрын
And what exactly is an ‘encounter’ with Christ?
@demetriusjackson3767Ай бұрын
Who are you to talk about somebody personal experience? I thought the taught you not to judge? That's one of y'all (Christians) contradictions
@tiffanyandjosiahperry5210Ай бұрын
All the ladies reflected GOD beautifully....I am proud to be counted amongest the daughters of GOD!
@divinedevon9213Ай бұрын
Who said we are not daughters of god because we don’t believe in King James Bible ? Bffr
@djchinot7229Ай бұрын
Can I be called god sons without following a religion? Yes or no?
@thatonegirl1353Ай бұрын
@@djchinot7229 its not about religion but relationship like if you were persuing some one you would give it your all God expects the same not just for you to seek him once a week or month but dayly and he will begin revealing himself the sky is the limit hell began to show you things take you in visions and dreams meet like minded people ect so pray read your Bible and alwaysas God to help you understand be consistent it doesn't have to look like everyone else develop your own relationship with God bc he loves you goal to live God like he loves us
@Jeigh08Ай бұрын
@@djchinot7229look how you under every comment harassing people. When you say you believe in God but don’t follow anything nobody knows what morales values and virtues you’re talking about so how can we answer that question
@yemzspecial1767Ай бұрын
@@djchinot7229you were created by God, therefore you are from God. Jesus died so you can be a son because He took your place on the cross, and died for your sin. The beautiful thing in all this is He gave you free will. You can believe it or not, but there is no reason not to.
@emilylozano239923 күн бұрын
I used to be a “former Christian”. I was hurt by people of the church and it caused me to stray away from god. I based my relationship with god, not by what he had done to me in my life but by what other sinner LIKE ME had done TO ME. And it took me maturing and reading the word of god to understand that people will hurt you. And god instructs us on how to deal with conflict among the church with our brothers and sisters. God has been good to me. MORE THAN GOOD. Stop putting your eye on man kind. Put your eyes on GOD.
@loveskyifeoma136010 күн бұрын
God*
@winniem60896 күн бұрын
" It's better to trust the Lord than to trust mere people" . Ps 118: 8 I mean what more can we expect from mankind? They ( we) judged and condemned Christ Himself!
@ranettapalmer18734 күн бұрын
Beautiful
@ministerallen06Ай бұрын
When the sister said at the end that she would not cross over but was now open to researching and learning more, I shed a couple of tears. That is why we, as Christians, must have these conversations. They might not get saved in that moment, but His will continue to work on them. I pray that she receives Christ.
@DestinyGrace_7Ай бұрын
Yea, she was open to it and that’s all God wants. She even waved with the rest of the Christians and the other two women didn’t. It’s our job as believers to help them convert, and it’s really seeing and experiencing the truth. I smiled as well and was happy to the Christians smile when she said made her comment at the end because we seen the Spirit move her I matter if she physically walked crossed the bridge or not and that was a beautiful thing to see, i definitely was rejoicing with the ladies on the left. I really enjoyed this video, we need more of this, God is calling his children! Bless you all❤️
@janel_206Ай бұрын
Yes, I believe she will find the truth. She's proclaiming to be a former Christian, but goes to a non- denominational church. She is, even if in part looking for the truth, seeking love and amongst the body. Let's definitely pray that God continues to reveal His truth to her and that she receives it!!
@henriettanelson541429 күн бұрын
Thank God that their minds cannot and will not be changed, they are rooted and grounded in christ. Lady at the end in lilac, you are one :angry lady".
@henriettanelson541429 күн бұрын
She's in the middle now of the nonbelievers
@iamKataviah13 күн бұрын
Hallelujah!!!❤
@beingroxyАй бұрын
She thinks Christianity limits you but it actually truly frees you!
@Dr.Beetlejuice110Ай бұрын
It limits you...if it frees you then why when it comes to your desires you have to check with God? That's the very definition of limitation.
@beingroxyАй бұрын
@@Dr.Beetlejuice110 Are all desires good? So if every desire isn't good would it then be called a limitation? By checking it with God first? He knows human hearts and it is bent towards evil (Jer. 17:9)...there are desires we may have that are utterly harmful. Denying yourself is an true act of freedom. Jesus denied himself at the cross so that we may be made whole. I pray you come to understand this one day. 🙏🏽
@beingroxyАй бұрын
Boundaries are good. I'm sure we have desires to run the red light right? But we don't. Why? It may lead to our death or terrible accident that may harm others and ourselves. So is this then a bad limitation? Should we have stop lights or stop signs?
@naynay9419Ай бұрын
Exactly!!!
@HimmiefanАй бұрын
The people of the church and how they misinterpret and twist scripture limit people, but Christ himself is freeing.
@sylviaatieno4239Ай бұрын
I like how peaceful my sisters in Christ are so much peace in the Lord. We’ll represented ❤
@missionwealth2Ай бұрын
Amen
@LaurielavendarАй бұрын
Many non believers have found peace in different ways of life as well, broaden your view ❤
@boochi7087Ай бұрын
More like passive-aggressive and disingenuous, but you wouldn't know seeing as you're a fellow sister in christ. Y'all really love to be on the proverbial high horse like being a Christian makes you better - it doesn't.
@Mr.LevelUp.Ай бұрын
@@Laurielavendar the original comment didn’t mention anything about non believers, why are you triggered love?
@solomonessix6909Ай бұрын
It amazes me that any African who became the victim of The Doctrine of Discovery issued by Pope Alexander VI in 1493 believes that the Church would provide them with a source of power to free themselves from the yoke of bondage which the church authorized. The church is literally responsible and created the scenario in which our ancestors were trafficked across the Atlantic Ocean in chains. Furthermore, Christianity was influenced heavily by Platonic philosophy and borrows from a plethora of pagan sources including Homer’s Odyssey, the Instruction of Amenemope, the Epic of Gilgamesh and others. The women believe because they are conditioned to do so and not because they weighed the evidence to verify the truth claims of the authorized propaganda for social control. Source information: -How Augustine imported Plato's views into Christianity. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6fRfoWpjr57oKs -Inside the Mind of God: Plato's Influence on Ancient Judaism and Christianity. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIfMiWWqgNWEbsk -Greek Philosophy in Christian Thought. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXzRdZyBlJ6gl8U -Plato, Aristotle and Christianity. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZLRlGCepbWle7c -Egyptian Myths EXPOSE the Hidden Roots of Christianity! kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5Kqq2ebedZ8i6M -Even Dr. MLK Jr. was aware of the pagan influences of Christianity he wrote about it in an essay stored at Stanford University. "The Influence of the Mystery Religions on Christianity" by MLK jr. kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/documents/influence-mystery-religions-christianity -Dr. Knut Heim, Proverbs, Lecture 14, Proverbs 22-24 and Amenemope kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6KVgommqqmMopo -PROOF Homer Inspired the Gospels! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnnHnXmiZ8adr6s -Here is the Papal Bull from Pope Alexander VI the athorized slavey. www.nlm.nih.gov/nativevoices/timeline/171.html
@herholyflowers26 күн бұрын
As a follower of Christ, thank you for letting every woman in the video share their thoughts. It's very refreshing.
@JennineMcknightАй бұрын
my sisters in Christ CARRIED that discussion period!
@bmurry2Ай бұрын
It was a competition?
@JennineMcknightАй бұрын
@@bmurry2 lol
@edorsey700025 күн бұрын
Facts!! 💯
@redeemedbychrist1220 күн бұрын
Period!!!
@Rachel_198916 күн бұрын
RIGHT!! ❤❤❤
@Coronaboii88Ай бұрын
I love my sisters in Christ. Y'all represented and stood ten toes down.
@blackcherry6877Ай бұрын
Yes, with class and dignity unlike the purple sweater😂
@kaylajanelle9125Ай бұрын
jesus is the god of europeans/christians, not us! we MUST come out of religious lies forced on our ancestors and into truth! (African-American, black, ados, etc.) Check out @Komehrministries for spiritual and historical truth!
@KCClarАй бұрын
You love your sisters in Christ without mentioning the other sisters on the panel? Surely that was Jesus's (whom you consider God) commanded of you. Only love those who agree with you, the true message Christ. Lol
@yzma614229 күн бұрын
in Christ we love all. we can pray for both sides
@blackcherry687729 күн бұрын
@@KCClar The Bible says God is angry with the wicked every day. We can definitely be selective with our love.
@JessthebesАй бұрын
@11:27 - It stood out to me that this woman was very focused on the idea of having a discussion with the goal of changing people’s minds. When I engage in any conversations about my faith (Christianity) my goal is never to convert the person or change their convictions. That’s the Holy Spirit’s job. My only goal is to speak the biblical truth and try to gain a better understanding of their point of view.
@musicgal9830Ай бұрын
As a Christian I agree. Respect the other persons’ decisions and dignity in choice regardless if you disagree or not and the Holy Spirit will bring them to Him through our character
@queenandcrownАй бұрын
That's very rare for a Christian...many believe that they are called to convert and save souls
@jadorejoiexoАй бұрын
@@queenandcrownwe are actually called to do this, but we are required to do this with wisdom, gentleness and love - Which will capture the approach explained by the original commenter. I can definitely appreciate that some Christians in their sincere (or insincere) effort to fulfil the great commission (to go out and make disciples) have not employed wisdom or love in so doing and rather push people away, but in essence both are true: Christians are commanded to go into the world, share the gospel, make disciples, make known the love of God but we are also told to be wise as serpents, gentle as doves and to do all things with Godly love. We also have to understand the constraints of our assignment - which is to share the good news of the gospel, not force it or try and actively change someone’s mind because this we do not have the power intrinsically to do - this is the work of the Holy Spirit. Love and blessing to you
@alicethemadrabbit1842Ай бұрын
I'm an atheist an I agree 100%. I used to be in that place, but I've grown up. It's exhausting to care about other's beliefs and it doesn't change anything. As long as they're good people we can be friends and have a mature discussion. If we can't have a mature discussion or if someone's trying to convert me, I respect myself enough to not talk to that person again. 🤷🏽♀️
@bekxhАй бұрын
@queenandcrown In a sense we are but it's how we do it that people get conflicted on. Matthew 28:19 reads, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations...". When you share your beliefs with someone it's not you forcing them to choose the same thing. It's simply providing another perspective. There's no problem with that
@starseedemmadee13 күн бұрын
I’m a former Christian and spirituality changed my life for the best. So proud of myself and staying 10 toes down behind where my heart guided me. When I was a Christian my beliefs was limited. Now I feel so much relief and clarity. To all my spiritual sisters and Christian sisters. I love you guys. Keep y’all heads up. But it’s definitely levels to this. Peace & Love ❤ God is love.
@Davriana13 күн бұрын
I agree beautifully said!
@fl_snorkeldorkАй бұрын
I love how the lady in the lilac sweater knows so much about all of these contradictions but when asked she can't name a single one. 10:14
@DelightPaul99Ай бұрын
Fr 😂
@winnumber101Ай бұрын
"I'm not doing the homework for you! YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEART THAT--"
@Melex1213Ай бұрын
Exactly
@shauntieyАй бұрын
😂😂😂😂lol but it's there on Google why do yall want to be told every
@Melex1213Ай бұрын
@ girl, bye.
@geminigrrl66Ай бұрын
As a Black woman who found my way back to my faith, I have total empathy for my sisters who've left Christianity. I get it. We have to accept that too many of our churches and fellow Christians are not welcoming to the stranger, that misogynoir is real and harmful, and frankly too many preachers and their congregations DO NOT know the Bible the way they should. If you're still reading the KJV, then you're missing a LOT of the nuances from the Hebrew, Greek and Latin. We also need to understand that religious trauma is REAL, and not dismiss it or talk about those who've experienced it as if they're at fault. Faith should strengthen and HEAL us, not make us feel unworthy or damaged. A true faith allows questions and being okay with not always knowing and being human. Dogma demands obedience. The ex-Christian women's body language isn't "dark" or defensive - it's the body language of ABUSE. These women were waiting to be attacked, because they already have been. It's interesting how so many Christian posters in this thread completely missed that, in their zeal to brag about how "personal" their relationship with Jesus is.
@naomibk-d3lАй бұрын
Wow really good pointc
@solomonessix6909Ай бұрын
It amazes me that any African who became the victim of The Doctrine of Discovery issued by Pope Alexander VI in 1493 believes that the Church would provide them with a source of power to free themselves from the yoke of bondage which the church authorized. The church is literally responsible and created the scenario in which our ancestors were trafficked across the Atlantic Ocean in chains. Furthermore, Christianity was influenced heavily by Platonic philosophy and borrows from a plethora of pagan sources including Homer’s Odyssey, the Instruction of Amenemope, the Epic of Gilgamesh and others. The women believe because they are conditioned to do so and not because they weighed the evidence to verify the truth claims of the authorized propaganda for social control. Source information: -How Augustine imported Plato's views into Christianity. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6fRfoWpjr57oKs -Inside the Mind of God: Plato's Influence on Ancient Judaism and Christianity. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIfMiWWqgNWEbsk -Greek Philosophy in Christian Thought. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXzRdZyBlJ6gl8U -Plato, Aristotle and Christianity. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZLRlGCepbWle7c -Egyptian Myths EXPOSE the Hidden Roots of Christianity! kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5Kqq2ebedZ8i6M -Even Dr. MLK Jr. was aware of the pagan influences of Christianity he wrote about it in an essay stored at Stanford University. "The Influence of the Mystery Religions on Christianity" by MLK jr. kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/documents/influence-mystery-religions-christianity -Dr. Knut Heim, Proverbs, Lecture 14, Proverbs 22-24 and Amenemope kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6KVgommqqmMopo -PROOF Homer Inspired the Gospels! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnnHnXmiZ8adr6s -Here is the Papal Bull from Pope Alexander VI the athorized slavey. www.nlm.nih.gov/nativevoices/timeline/171.html
@lotus3161Ай бұрын
This is the most empathetic comment. Thank you for sharing. ❤
@Samanthap305Ай бұрын
This a word.
@Pr3tty_RayАй бұрын
Yes people don’t really talk about religion trauma and how toxic church politics can be. People dont talk about how toxic church folks especially older one you look up to can be so mean and nasty in the house of the lord.
@dianacobble6136Ай бұрын
The lady in purple is my former high school video production teacher. I’m going to pray for her redemption. It’s so sad to see hurt and broken people who relate their hurt to the great God of our Bible.
@AmerdaMysteryOfficialАй бұрын
She doesn’t need your wasted words. She needs you to be a better human being.
@jadebijou9508Ай бұрын
@@AmerdaMysteryOfficialyou must know her? Just curious:-)
@marstopia7743Ай бұрын
@@AmerdaMysteryOfficial say that again
@s.1489Ай бұрын
@@AmerdaMysteryOfficial to be a better human being? did she trash the lady? some of you guys just reek of defensiveness. What was said in that sentence that is foul or wrong? please walk us through.
@lifeassoniaaliu9600Ай бұрын
If there’s one the thing the devil has succeeded in doing is make people forget that he is there. People tend to forget that there is an enemy. If it was all about doing good and being good… Adam and Eve with all of us would still be in the garden. We are way pastttt being good and vibrating on a higher frequency. There is a need to contend and a need for our sins to be forgiven and that is how Jesus saves us all or else we are doomed and unity and good would be the least of our problems. Thank you Jesus!
@Bowser81319 күн бұрын
One thing I’ve learnt from this is that everyone’s beliefs are subjective to them. Your experiences determine what you believe in essentially.
@Linalo18Ай бұрын
The woman in the lilac sweater actually strengthens my faith. Its amazing how God can use others for good. Her anger, resentment and pride shone through. Well done to my Christian sisters.
@wames7257Ай бұрын
I don't think she was angry or resented anyone, she was just frustrated because she was once in their shoes and she believed a lie told to her since a child and now she has to try and convince others bound by the lie that it's false but she can't get through to them
@Linalo18Ай бұрын
@wames7257 Well its not a lie, firstly. It can't be disrpoved. And she hasnt stopped believing, she's just decided to believe in something else. Athiesm and/or Agnosticism in of itself is a belief system. Such an incredibly self-righteous and again, prideful thing for her, and for you to assume that you hold the answers to the universe and you've got to save us.
@amari117Ай бұрын
@@wames7257You make it seem as if you’re her 😭, how is Christianity a lie?
@NamesMoriАй бұрын
@@wames7257yeah, it was frustration and sorrow rather than anger, resentment, or pride.
@adayinthelight7575Ай бұрын
@@wames7257 And she may have experienced hell. You never know. It’s easy for “Christians” to be so judgmental.
@denisewilliams8708Ай бұрын
The ladies that were Christians were calm and at peace. They had a quiet power. This is what I continue to strive for. 🙏🏽 This is what loving, trusting, and believing in God brings you. ❤️
@mercedescameron8265Ай бұрын
When you say were are you referring to the former? Just asking for clarity.
@jue82726 күн бұрын
Thats because ignorance is bliss...imagine being an athiest in a country were everyone believes a man parted the red sea with a stick and flipflops..😂😂....you'd be on edge also😅😅😅
@avakintee15039 күн бұрын
@@jue827why does it even bother you? 😂. U atheist make me laugh
@jue8279 күн бұрын
@avakintee1503 again..imagine if I said a Leprechaun was outside and you told me u don't see one ..then I act like ur crazy and told u u just needed to believe FOR NO REASON..u wouldn't be annoyed by that?...exactly 👍
@WilliamsPinchАй бұрын
God will call his people back home in due time. God bless all of the ladies who were brave enough to share about their faith or lack thereof.
@divinedevon9213Ай бұрын
WHO SAID WE DONT HAVE FAITH FOR NOT BEING RELIGIOUS HYPOCRITE?
@pjicyАй бұрын
@@divinedevon9213let it go bra
@ChellyTheGreatАй бұрын
Amen ♥️
@Zeldafan1ify10 күн бұрын
I hope you do more of these, as a Christian who will never depart from my Christ, this is so insightful. God bless every soul that comes upon this comment
@dmhYahwehАй бұрын
“Even if you don’t have a belief system that’s a belief system”❤
@Michelle-jw5djАй бұрын
Yes exactly
@chinenyeezeliora3721Ай бұрын
Exactly
@wames7257Ай бұрын
How does that begin to make any sense?
@taropaaАй бұрын
@@wames7257it’s impossible for a human to not have a belief system, we need frameworks to interpret reality and function in the world. So not ‘believing’ (key word) in belief constitutes a belief systems of its own.
@marie-francoiset9402Ай бұрын
right. so it's all belief and no beliefs are real and everlasting. they all change. including religious ones
@iammichaelamoniqueАй бұрын
Hearing the non believers perspective sounds like the old me before Jesus saved me from false religions and witchcraft 3 years ago! Praying for these women to have an undeniable encounter with the Lord
@Sicoy28Ай бұрын
Maybe they don’t want an encounter ???
@marabookieАй бұрын
what if they dont want to be prayed for
@AlliterativeAtheist21 күн бұрын
Theres a reason you didnt believe. what brought you back? a traumatic event?
@Janiyah-Tucker14 күн бұрын
@@marabookieWe christian’s are taught to love all, pray for all, and uplift one another. We are simply blessing your life with Jesus Christ, may he enter into your hearts.
@Janiyah-Tucker14 күн бұрын
@@Sicoy28 You should read my comment!
@aprilstone31Ай бұрын
18:49 The Bible tells us to be transformed by the renewal of our minds. The mind of Christ. I appreciate this conversation because it’s needed in our community. The sisters of Faith defended the faith with gentleness and meekness. Hopefully something they said will resonate.
@Cherylgawazah24 күн бұрын
"The world doesn't give you your identity, so they can't take it away from you." ❤ Love that!
@JennHaydenАй бұрын
I blocked channels that do these kinds of things because they have become sensational and gimmicky. Thank you for having an authentic conversation and not going for clicks.
@FormerHeathenАй бұрын
Shout to our sisters in Christ who stood on our father’s business , who spoke eloquently and with a calmness . The other side didn’t have ! Yall did amazing and shout out toJOHANA FOR REBUKING that “ we’re all God nonsense “ IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS . So proud ❤️🙏🏾🗣️✝️
@divinedevon9213Ай бұрын
Jesus was slave ship clown
@anniej.1996Ай бұрын
So grateful that the believers asked for the receipts, and the non believer could not only NOT provide them but refused to do so! Love this classic moment of exposer! It was even frightening to hear that voice that came out of her 11:02 "oh no" when she said it ends the discussion. Whew! my spirit lept! Thank you Lord Jesus for shining through these women of God who stood on truth! "The world doesn't give you your identity, so they can't take it away"! PERFECTLY said!
@Kitty-VelourАй бұрын
I love how right after she claimed whenever she tried to have a conversation with Christians they wouldn't give her proof... literally right after she wouldn't pull out her own list. I hope these ladies rewatch this and it helps them gain some perspective. this video is very revealing.
@geoffreyboatengjr6773Ай бұрын
lol look it up yourself, you should be shocked
@marie-francoiset9402Ай бұрын
@@Kitty-Velour do your own research
@demetriusjackson3767Ай бұрын
So want people to give you all the answers?
@Kitty-VelourАй бұрын
@@marie-francoiset9402 lol, I see you don't understand how conversations work. I hope that changes, for your sake.
@dineahynson687121 күн бұрын
Apologetics is so needed in this hour! We have to be able to contend well for the faith. We have to be able to give an account. Our personal convictions don’t move others. We also have to keep praying fervently because we need God to draw their hearts back to Him! Those ladies will be powerhouses for the Kingdom when they return!
@thechurchoftrueconviction279816 күн бұрын
Well said!
@tamarascottonline727715 күн бұрын
Truth
@txLALAАй бұрын
I was prepared to be offended because it’s always open season on Christians, but I am glad I stayed to listen. My heart hurts for those who’ve been broken by bad experiences. I cannot imagine the turmoil of feeling so far from God. I pray they find their way through this darkness. 🙏🏾
@divinedevon9213Ай бұрын
I found my way through darkness becoming spiritual and
@WeareallrelatedActs1726FromoneАй бұрын
@@txLALA “My heart hurts for those who’ve been broken by bad experiences. I can’t imagine the turmoil of feeling so far from God. I pray they find their way through the darkness.” Thank you 🥹😮💨❤️🩹
@ryuturciosАй бұрын
Amen ✝️
@Charis788Ай бұрын
If people would spend time with God, reading the scriptures for themselves they would discover that Christianity is not one of the religions of the world. There is a part of Christianity that is religion, but Christianity in its entirety is not a religion. Christianity is the pulsating life of God in the human spirit. It is divinity in humanity Colosians 1:16 wraps it up so nicely. The Lord Jesus did not suffer on the cross for man to have a religion. He came that we may have eternal life (Zoe in Greek) the God-kind of life…
@DingleberryCattoАй бұрын
God allows bad experiences that go to the point of breaking people, why does he do that? And then we are supposed to just have faith that God is watching me and has a greater plan? Why make it so complicated if God is so powerful, what a strange God
@RRlove1Ай бұрын
I've noticed something interesting: whenever I watch a podcast debating the Bible and God, the Christians remain calm in spirit and voice, while the unbelievers often appear upset and disturbed. Has anyone else noticed that?
@sleepy-peepyАй бұрын
Blind faith that all the answers are in God's hands is relaxing,. Understanding the world to be chaotic, contradictory, and unfair is upsettling.
@LexiM7Ай бұрын
We Believers have that peace that surpasses ALL understanding, even in this dark and evil world. ❤️
@outheretruckingАй бұрын
That because they are brainwashed
@candace2037Ай бұрын
@@RRlove1 for awhile after I became agnostic i was angry whenever I talked about religion and my disbelief because I was angry that I believed a lie and other people were believing it too so I get why they are upset luckily I found peace later on knowing that everyone can have their own beliefs and its not a problem since people cant choose to believe anything
@candace2037Ай бұрын
@@RRlove1 i felt betrayed and manipulated and brainwashed by society and because of that i was so upset
@KeyshasCornerАй бұрын
A similar thing that stands out amongst the non believers is all of them said they used to be Christians but none of them said they were saved or filled with the Holllt spirit and thats is the problem and the outstanding Factor. You can never truly be saved and have an encounter with Jesus and then turn around and say he doesn't exist, Its impossible. They may have grew up in church and went to church as an adult and had a form of religion but they never actually had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God the father . This was a very good conversation I enjoyed it
@oldschool5Ай бұрын
Thats not true. Often times in life facts replace faith. Many of us used to believe in Santa, and now we don't. Does that mean that we never truly believed in Santa? Does that mean that we never truly got excited and full of energy when we Santa in the food court? Naw. It just means we realized reindeer dont fly. The fact that reindeer dont fly replaced the faith that they did. The same with the talkin donkey. Once the facts hit us we accepted them. And when you accept that Sant does not exist, you still get gifts because Santa was never the one giving you your gifts. Same with Bible God, Jesus, Yahweh Krishna and Allah.
@fumsy50Ай бұрын
True. That true born again encounter.
@KeyshasCornerАй бұрын
@@oldschool5 the scripture says search out your own soul salvation with fear and trembling. I pray that if you really want to know that God exists and that Jesus is the way the only way the truth and the life that you are open-minded enough to search out the scriptures for yourself and in doing so that he will reveal himself to you. God bless you
@oldschool5Ай бұрын
@@KeyshasCorner Moving around in fear and trembling is not a way for me and mines to live.. I have searched out the scriptures. I have decades of being a believer. Im still open minded and always ready to accept facts. I just dont accept mythologies as fact. If you tell me that a snake had a verbal conversation with a lady that was create from a rib of a man, you will have to show me the evidence. Peace and Love
@timmysleftnutsack5075Ай бұрын
I was tired of worshipping a man, a human. I found Islam. I truly believe Christians distorted so much of gods words. The fact that Jesus is 3 different people in one was always weird to me
@abigailalemseged855317 күн бұрын
The church was represented so beautifully, I feel proud and I have not felt proud of the church for so long I was getting caught up in the pain. We all need to take accountability and apologize more instead of judging, No one hired us to tell others they are not good enough for the church. God is love. And love, loves everyone. Thank you for this video.
@themalawiandiner180Ай бұрын
4:52 Muslims go to the mosque every friday, so her argument doesn't make sense.
@afroaffirmationАй бұрын
That was the first thing i thought... like.. errr no... if you have ever been in a muslim country you will see the world stop multiplet times per day for muslims to go pray.
@DiannaShcoleАй бұрын
Shes still studying as an outsider. Shell get there eventually if thats where God takes her. Women aren't required to go but its extra blessings.
@queenandcrownАй бұрын
She said they pray without having to go to a house of worship...
@themalawiandiner180Ай бұрын
@@queenandcrown Christians do that too, they pray at home too, at gatherings, prayer groups, online prayer groups.
@ArtKrishnamurtiАй бұрын
And honestly Muslims are FAR more religious than Christians... she really was just making things up out of hatred.
@jflex089Ай бұрын
Watching these different speech patterns, also their mannerisms and gestures, you know easily who’s truly at peace
@kaitlynpelcher1287Ай бұрын
obviously the non christians aren't at peace---bc the church hurt them bro. it's ur religion's fault lmao
@shauntieyАй бұрын
😂😂😂so just because you talk slowly etc you are at peace?
@karlamontero8427Ай бұрын
@@shauntieyno they were good listeners as well as understanding. Also didn’t speak negatively to the girls on the other side thats what makes them peaceful
@BeastlyRevelations28 күн бұрын
@@karlamontero8427this is judgmental. As a fellow Christian, don’t you realize how this sounds?
@KushQueen925 күн бұрын
Peace is internal, it has nothing to do with appearance LOL.
@GetCareydAway_Ай бұрын
I’ve been on both sides. I’m thankful I found the real truth and to believe God will reveal all truth to these women.
@Hihihihi716Ай бұрын
Me too! I see so much of my past self (literally less than a year ago) in the non believers. I just came back to Christ after a decade of being without him and I empathize for those women and totally understand why they come off as abrasive and defensive.
@GetCareydAway_Ай бұрын
@ That is literally my story as well. Wow, God is really calling his people back to his heart. Thank you for sharing that.
@Mr.Jaquaveon2kАй бұрын
Man, I feel like I'm going down the same path as you men . It definitely a struggle to understand the word and choosing what's best for me. Pray for me 🙏🏾
@hopejailynnАй бұрын
Same, then God opened my eyes and unveiled and revealed everything to me. I always say if I had a million tongues to tell him how sorry I am it wouldn’t be enough because I truly was deceived and lost in the world’s lie, and he STILL chose to wake me up.
@Ehnylatiye10119 күн бұрын
What a delicate conversation and you picked amazing women to have this conversation. They were all passionate and considerate!
@royward5519Ай бұрын
Man, the anger, confusion, projection and unsettling factor of the ex-Christians is just so saddening. The stability, patience and wisdom of these sisters in Christ is phenomenal. We must pray for these women. Honestly. I hear a lot of hurt and resentment versus any solid statements. Please pray for these women on the right.
@LifesBANANAtooАй бұрын
Anger is a normal Godly(Deut 32:11, 2Kings17:18…) & human reaction I know you’ll say but God encourages people to be slow to anger. Have you paused to think maybe they also used to be this patient (slow to anger) stable and ‘wise’ until the rug was pulled under their feet. To me the Christians appear numb and naive to the damage that organized religion has on people’s lives. But I understand, they haven’t experienced anything life altering within their organized religions (churches) to empathize with the former Christians. The way they apologise for the wrongs of their religion as if an apology of words undos the damage already caused shows how detached they are from reality. It’s kind of like what you did there “pray for them?”, assuming they didn’t pray and make supplications for themselves only for them to fall on deaf ears. Be kind.
@jamaicangurl4uАй бұрын
It's not anger it's frustration that we have this ancient ridiculous belief system having real consequences on life today.
@tcdan-c2mАй бұрын
@@jamaicangurl4u exactly
@Sicoy28Ай бұрын
@@royward5519 your biased
@Sicoy2819 күн бұрын
I agree with everything said
@Kettie_Ай бұрын
Heavy on the “SHOW US…” 10:41
@Kris77777Ай бұрын
She said it so gently but I heard that LOUD 😂
@MyonlyVoiceАй бұрын
And that spirit the one in the pink has flared up so bad the proof is in the pudding she hates she knows she can’t make them bow
@elizabethdavis8610Ай бұрын
HEAVY
@CamirrasKitchenАй бұрын
if she is making a claim that there are contradictions in the Bible, then she has to support the claim. i dont think she really knows any or is afraid that what she brings up will be debunked
@ImmaMuFukiNmoNsTaАй бұрын
When someone is blinded by faith it’s a frustrating task to point out and help them see all the logical issues found in the Bible. Faith is a hell of a drug.
@nakiachareaseАй бұрын
As someone who almost got caught in New Age philosophies… I’d never go back ! Jesus is my one and only savior. I’ll scream that to the mountain top. I would asked the question, who needs several gods; when one’s there only one true Almighty. I understand the anger from the one side, but once I learned to separate God from mankind the outlook on my Christian faith changed.
@deja14Ай бұрын
AMEN
@Godisfaithhful20 күн бұрын
Every time someone says I don’t go to church or deal with religion it’s never because of something God did but rather there experience with someone in the church… I didn’t hear any of them say God failed them…..
@jazzyjay9059Ай бұрын
Home girl on the end was manifesting . Leg was shaking the whole time . I pray true freedom and deliverance through Christ for all three of them. The seeds were planted for sure. This is proof that Jesus loves all three of them and have a plan for them. Sat them down in front of four of his soldiers and allowed them to partake in and feel what Christ is like. ❤ GodBless you all.
@gillmsnfillman1691Ай бұрын
Deliverance from what? It’s crazy how black Christians speak about this religion not remembering when Tulsa burnt, it burnt at the hands of white Christian’s who prayed to the same God. Let me ask you, when Tulsa and the many other black towns burnt, they would always attack and destroy black churches first, whose prayer did God answer? Who did your supposed God, “deliver” in that moment. Please don’t pray for deliverance maybe pray that your cognitive ability to critical think and ask deep profound questions to wake you up.
@NonofyobusinessАй бұрын
She into that crazy stuff
@KeyCatchersCharmАй бұрын
What does her leg shaking have to do with manifesting? Lmaooo 😂
@georgiasanders129527 күн бұрын
@@gillmsnfillman1691 The lady in the video said it very clearly, anything that is done that does no align with God's character is people acting on sin. God gives people free will, he won't stop them from burning down churches or towns because that's an action they decided but I'm sure he took care of his people. He also says that followers will suffer, he never says life will be perfect he says he will give you peace in the storm and always provide. But just because people do things 'in the name of God' does not mean in represents God, God tells us who is and what he stands for which is love, peace, holiness, kindness, Joy, gentleness so on and so forth. Anything that is not that is not Him.
@KushQueen925 күн бұрын
@@gillmsnfillman1691they never will. This is why I no longer debate with them, it's like talking to a brick wall.
@kierstinbaum4097Ай бұрын
I noticed the Christian women are so much more calmer and open minded than the non Christian women.
@KeyCatchersCharmАй бұрын
No, it's the group of former Christians they chose. I don't like the line up. It's like they purposefully chose the bottom of the barrel former believers
@amarihooker9428Ай бұрын
@@KeyCatchersCharmIt was an uneven amount too which didn't seem fair to me
@afrobluatlanta2380Ай бұрын
@@KeyCatchersCharmhmmm... why are they the bottom of the barrel? That's a wild statement.
@marie-francoiset9402Ай бұрын
they are calmer because the forum itself was setup to be in their favor. and they chose former christian's who are more freshly hurt from their church experiences. they purposely didn't choose former christians who can be calm and articulate their perspective well.
@marie-francoiset9402Ай бұрын
@@KeyCatchersCharm I agree!
@michaelstarina9675Ай бұрын
We are the church. They are having church via this conversation. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, I am there among them
@Kitty-VelourАй бұрын
I think people easily forget about this. just having a conversation about the Lord glorifies Him.
@healsisАй бұрын
You better preach, brother!
@kainajean-baptiste195719 сағат бұрын
there’s so much church hurt in here, praying for all ladies 🙏🏾🫶🏾
@anniej.1996Ай бұрын
The world doesn't give you your identity, so they can't take it away! PERFECTLY said!
@Miss_Dani_DWhitАй бұрын
The spirit of offense was alive and irritated from some of the former Christians, during this discussion. I also heard them say they were raised in the church. Being raised in a faith doesn't mean you've surrendered or given your life to Christ, and have a personal relationship with Him and opened your heart with trust. I pray the Lord draws them near and the Holy Spirit reveals the truth to them during their search for "spirituality." The enemy is crafty in twisting truth, and I believe the hirt/pain they've some of the ladies experienced have hardened their hearts. I hope they find the Lord in the midst of their quest for freedom.
@HimmiefanАй бұрын
The spirit of offense was with them because of hurt.
@vendradiАй бұрын
I believe what they described in their experience with church and so-called religion is akin to cultural Christianity. They should have been labeled as ex-churchgoers. What they are is children of disobedience. Pray the Lord removes the scales from their eyes and replaces their hearts of stone with a heart of flesh.
@ClarityPodcast.Ай бұрын
@@Himmiefaneveryone is hurt though
@goldengirl7625Ай бұрын
From what I’ve witnessed several time, almost all former Christians have the same “testimony” and when you hear them it all makes sense as to why they left--they never knew God. They all grew up in the church, they all went to Sunday school, all of their parents forced them to go to church, they all had bad experiences with people within those circles, etc. You never hear them talking about how a relationship with The Lord was cultivated in their personal time. I can empathize only because I went through the same thing and lost my faith for years because of it. I do believe The American church especially is partially to blame because there are many churches that are in error of teaching various false, half-truths Gospel. True discipleship is also absent in many churches, so many people literally don’t understand who God truly is and what it means to know Him outside of 2hrs in a church building per week and spending 3 minutes a day to pray for the money, car, love, house, etc that they want.
@divinedevon9213Ай бұрын
Wrong I was at peace . Only the one chic looked angry lol
@hiashleykellyАй бұрын
PK daughter hit it on the head. Knowing Gods character on your own is essential to the faith 💞 God bless you sister
@kaitlynpelcher1287Ай бұрын
u get a pretty good idea of god's character in numbers 31:17-18
@yonela-y7k3 күн бұрын
To the lady in lilac “just because you’re passionate doesn’t mean you’re angry, so speak up and let your voice be heard…little brown girl… you are so beautiful to me”. I heard all the girlies, Christian and not… beautiful conversation worth having ten thousand times. Well done for coming up in here and being vulnerable in front of the masses. As a former Christian girly myself, I know that God loves us all ❤. Christian or not. So it shouldn’t matter anyway. God’s love go into, around and above all religion. There is not place where God’s love is not. In the Church or outside of the church. In the street, in the mountains or even in hell if there is.
@chinyerechichester22182 күн бұрын
Jesus loves you
@daniellenicole6989Ай бұрын
To be so defensive in your stance just having a conversation tells me all I need to know.
@SoldbyDominiqueАй бұрын
Exactly! The lady couldn't name one contradiction, just blamed it on menopause. SMH.
@socorromartinez3245Ай бұрын
Agree. And if u notice she pretty much kept silent after that@@SoldbyDominique
@SoldbyDominiqueАй бұрын
@@socorromartinez3245 HELLO!! Just confused. I bet she went home and did some research not so her views would change but to validate her claims for her next debate lol.
@Homosapian2.0Ай бұрын
@@SoldbyDominiqueit’s not her job to educate them on their beliefs. They should know these contradictions themselves. If you truly read the Bible you would see them. This is why there’s the study of apologetics. Ministers and scholars are aware of these contradictions so they use apologetics to explain them in a palatable way to laymen like yourself. The fact the Christian women gave excuses for slavery was every telling. Scripture itself condones slavery. In the old and New Testament there are instructions for slaves and masters. Take time to research for yourself instead of being in your Christian echo chamber.
@huberteric8327Ай бұрын
@@Homosapian2.0Show me where the scripture condones slavery. And point out one contradiction in the Bible
@masuka1851Ай бұрын
All in all, i feel like it's very important that we read the word of God ourselves and get to know him and have a relationship with him to be able to shape our real perspective of who he really is other than relying on what others have to say about God.
@findinghonour2020Ай бұрын
Perfectly said
@DreamGoGirlАй бұрын
Amen to that
@curiositychroniclesxАй бұрын
So true!! If we are christian’s based of tradition how others act and what they do or say it’s easy to be lost. We need to read so we know who God is. It also protects us from cults and spiritual abuse
@sewueseaboiyar8336Ай бұрын
I don't think anyone who has genuinely met Christ and the Holyspirit can change their mind about being a follower of Christ. Cause you are convinced and the Bible lets us understand that our understanding of it is not natural so that's why not everyone can understand. I pray everyone who doesn't believe finds the light and comes to the understanding and knowledge of Christ and are saved
@deshajames2224Ай бұрын
🎯💯
@Nicolec1917Ай бұрын
Nope. Jesus said if they go from us they was never with us.
@summerhayes105519 күн бұрын
One side was angry…the other was calm. Huge difference.
@imaninakia507012 күн бұрын
This!!
@jue8279 күн бұрын
@@summerhayes1055 thats because we're being told constantly to believe in somthing thats not verified to exist ..ya'll don't think 👍
@summerhayes10559 күн бұрын
@ I guess. To each is own. I’ll continue to choose peace.
@KamiaMcWilliamsАй бұрын
Both sides had great points and understandable perspectives-of course, there are a few women who are speaking not from knowledge but from hurt, pain and trauma but it’s beautiful to see how God is/will use this conversation to lead all of us to Seek His Kingdom first, Believe in our hearts and to accept His Son ❤️
@divinedevon9213Ай бұрын
We literally spoke from knowledge from research we did foh
@ArtKrishnamurtiАй бұрын
@@divinedevon9213 why don't you name your sources so we all can "research" too?
@ezracollins4034Ай бұрын
@@ArtKrishnamurti look up Billy Carson.. he literally research how stories in the Bible were derived from Ancient texts that were created thousands of years ago and he provides the actual sources.
@ben.duffourАй бұрын
@@ezracollins4034 Billy isnt someone you'd want to cite as a credible source. Search Wes Huff . He absolutely trashed all Billy's arguments
@ArtKrishnamurtiАй бұрын
@ Billy Carson just got exposed as a total fraud. Look up his debate with Wes Huff.
@thebusyandblessedwomanАй бұрын
This conversation is so powerful! 🙌 As a mom of 3, working full-time, and trying to stay grounded in my faith, I really felt the depth of this discussion. It's incredible how faith shapes our identity as women - the struggles, the expectations, and the moments of feeling judged or misunderstood. I’ve had times where I questioned aspects of my journey, but ultimately, my faith continues to give me strength and a sense of purpose. I appreciate how open and vulnerable everyone was in sharing their stories. Whether someone is standing firm in their faith or navigating life after leaving, I think these conversations bridge so much understanding. 💖 Thank you for creating this space - it’s so needed for women to feel heard, seen, and supported no matter where they are in their journey. Looking forward to more episodes like this! 🙏✨
@christinesantos6631Ай бұрын
So beautifully said!
@quioun18 күн бұрын
Yes
@crespeakslifeАй бұрын
To the Christian ladies! Thank you for planting the seed
@soulfulfilled4382Ай бұрын
Hi there, just curious, how did they plant the seed when the other ladies were already former Christian’s?
@crespeakslifeАй бұрын
@soulfulfilled4382 the lady at the end that said she is going to do some research and all the folks watching this video.
@anastasiacarolynАй бұрын
y’all are always assuming y’all are planting something been there done that 😂
@kaoshi_kutieАй бұрын
@@anastasiacarolynwho hurt you?
@anastasiacarolynАй бұрын
@ I have to be hurt for saying that lol, im sorry not everytime y’all have a religious conversation y’all are “ planting a seed” Seek help
@kellymaresha7 күн бұрын
I denounced Christianity in 2019. My LIFE, my self esteem, my finances, my mental health, my mental aptitude, my overall intelligence has SKYROCKETED! Best decision of my adult life. I always knew as a child I was never connected and never fully believed. I’m more of an atheist if I had to put a title… My mind never changed. I allowed myself to go where I always knew (as a child) was right for me and my life.
@NaiRoandKai5 күн бұрын
That’s temporary pleasures and I really pray God comes find you again
@kellymaresha5 күн бұрын
@ I pray that you read your Bible and learn how to work out your own soul salvation with fear and trembling. I didn’t ask you for this. I don’t want your prayers. And not because I have a problem with prayer but because of your energy. You have no right to impress upon anybody what you think is best for them. Nasty work. Why so many people have problems with Christians, you prove the problem every day. You lack self-control and discipline of your mouth.
@kellymaresha5 күн бұрын
@ @NaiRoandKai I pray that you read your Bible and learn how to work out your own soul salvation with fear and trembling. I didn’t ask you for this. I don’t want your prayers. And not because I have a problem with prayer but because of your energy. You have no right to impress upon anybody what you think is best for them. Nasty work. Why so many people have problems with Christians, you prove the problem every day. You lack self-control and discipline of your mouth.
@971Cici5 күн бұрын
@@NaiRoandKai How about you grow a brain so you can think for yourself instead of following a cult?
@Mindful.Movement.01Күн бұрын
Same
@asiaharris2804Ай бұрын
Really great moderator! Let them get their points out and asked important questions to get more information and clarity. So awesome ❤
@unpopularopinionpodcast24Ай бұрын
The host is a great moderator. Much better than jubilee
@forhisglorylifestyleАй бұрын
Agreed
@goldengirl7625Ай бұрын
Jubilee is just awful
@jomaya3283Ай бұрын
Yes, she is great because every time I say, “girl what?!🤨” , she interjects with a classy wrapped question so they can explain 😂😂
@Sicoy2819 күн бұрын
Is it because she’s a biased Christian???
@ItsLolaAde3 күн бұрын
@@jomaya3283😂😂😂
@stephanieclaudio_Ай бұрын
Props to the mediator/host, she was graceful and diligent on making sure there was respect. Asking for more information and clarification on things that were said 💗
@Day1Million17 күн бұрын
This was a great discussion. To see it as such, you really have to remove all of your view points and be open to hearing the hearts of everyone speaking. The ‘non-denominational pastor’ woman on the far right relief stood out to me.
@TherealTFfromKingstonАй бұрын
As a Christian, I can tell you time and again I’ve had second thoughts about my faith, not only due to people, but what God had allowed to happen in my life. But, that does not change the fact that turning my back on my Christian faith would mean turning away from the only source of truth that there is and will ever be. One of my hardest struggles in my faith was to continue believing and trusting in God’s plan when many friends and family left the faith. Yes, it’s hard despite God being there for me with all of that. God is good, and pain is pain. You just gotta continue to choose God over circumstance, as hard as that may be
@HiThereHeyThereАй бұрын
Yes. Praise God you stayed and trusted Him. The truth is FAR too many people on earth are oblivious to grasping the suffering that entered the world at the Fall, causing all kinds of horrible things, plus mans continual sins added in the mix from there on out. But God uses it to sanctify us, draw us closer to Him, and uses it for good. Evil can't thwart the Soverign God.
@Rod11269Ай бұрын
Many of us come across those thoughts before. Which is why we should read scripture and use it during moments like that. 2 Cor 10:5 Says we should take our thoughts captive and make them obedient to Christ. I didn’t use every word correctly. Please don’t bash me for shortening up a bit. I’m glad you continue to hang on. That shows that God is strengthening you. I know it hurts but it also is remarkable to look at how God can get one through something like that. I’ll be praying for you.
@akirimaro4971Ай бұрын
@@Rod11269Beautiful write up 👍
@effortless458811 күн бұрын
Amen GOD is good ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Romans 10:9 King James Version 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. GOD bless may the Lord and Saviour GOD Jesus Christ be with us all the time 🤍❤️💚🖤💛💖💜💓🧡💙✝️🌳🙏🏽
@Jesus.DiscipleАй бұрын
I didn’t grow up in church but in my late 20’s the Lord revealed Himself to me. He has definitely change my life and now i have a purpose. He uses me to travel across the world to peach and do things for Him. I have cast out many demons out of people and healed some by His power 🙌🏽
@shuushyoujokeman9069Ай бұрын
Ohh is that so? What did the lord look like
@LakeishaLifestyleАй бұрын
Amen. All child of God have a personal relationship with Him. No one can tell us any different.
@Jesus.DiscipleАй бұрын
@shuushyoujokeman9069 wasn’t a look but I knowing in your spirit…I became alive and aware something u have to experience on your own 🙏🏾
@Sicoy28Ай бұрын
@shuushyoujokeman9069a white man with a Afro and red fire eyes 😂😂 lmaooo . They are delusional af
@susiem.2068Ай бұрын
Amen ❤
@genevalewis6794Ай бұрын
I love the way they spoke without arguing. I’m a born again Christian.
@chico7000Ай бұрын
I’m reminded of how we’ve convinced ourselves that growing up in or around church culture meant we know or understand God and it’s just soo far from the truth. The Jews who literally were their own set apart nation, had their lives and culture revolving around said God failed to recognise Him when He came and dwelt among them in the person of Jesus . Now never-mind all the lies and deception added to the equation. It’s always been about knowing God for yourself and as a fellow PK, learnt the hard way that no one can spoon feed you into the Kingdom. I pray that these ladies and anyone else whose watching this that by His mercy, may they encounter the True and Living God before realising later that He is indeed the only way in these last days becomes too costly.
@nikaf4298Ай бұрын
Amen to all of this🙏🙏🙏
@lukasunddaslebenАй бұрын
I clicked on this video thinking that this will be probably very hard to watch and expected the Christian women to be shown in a negative light. I was very positively surprised and am so thankful for these strong women who represented our Lord and Saviour Jesus with so much love, patience and compassion 🙏✝️ may God bless all of you!
@palesaaaa_Ай бұрын
i hardly watch debates about Christianity. KZbin recommended this for me, and i am actually grateful for it. God bless every single lady on the platform. This has unbelievable shaped me into realizing why i truly stick to Christianity. So many points were shared. I can't wait to use them 👍🏽
@fidelaikin510927 күн бұрын
15:28 her voice is the cry of a soul that's been deeply wounded by the Christian society around her when growing up and so this shaped who she became. Just as it would anyone. She needs true healing and restoration by the awe-filling love of Christ. We pray that the Lord would encounter her, heal and restore her, and give her a real taste of HIS love. I feel so heartbroken for her 😢
@chrisstevens8123Ай бұрын
Mad respect to the christian ladies with how you answered questions and were transparent about your relationship with Christ. Throughout this discussion I couldn't help but notice that all the former christian ladies had something in common. They put their trust in people, denominations and a building and not actually pursuing Jesus for themselves. I'm not belittling what they went through because I know that had to of been very difficult. However, what they're saying is is they adhered to the christian belief at one time but they put their trust in an inferior source, which was man. So what they claimed to be persuasive and true was later determined by circumstances and experiences that convinced them otherwise.
@Mr.conservАй бұрын
They seem more effected by the actions of church attenders than the actually Bible/Christianity
@MsE711Ай бұрын
Exactly 💯 correct. People have to separate the people from the faith.
@CambieSweetsАй бұрын
@@MsE711Nah, that’s like saying R Kelly should be separate from the art 🤦♀️
@93NagchampaАй бұрын
They're more affected by the actions of CHRISTIANS. They are a representation of both the spirit of the text and the way of existing prescribed within it. If they aren't abiding by the moral tenants and examples within the aforementioned, or their actions are diametrically opposed to such, then are they even Christian?
@sparklesims6828Ай бұрын
Tell me you cherry pick the Bible without telling me you Cherry pick the Bible
@JennHaydenАй бұрын
@@CambieSweetsI am enjoying your commentary and the commentary from others. It is good to hear a variety of dialogue.
@vickies2327Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this discussion. Both sides were respectful and listened to each other. ❤ As a Christian myself, I'm so proud of the Christian women on the panel: calm, attentive, graceful. The reason, I reflect on their demeanor as some Christians unfortunately, can be a bit off putting trying to get their point across. Great job ladies! Let's keep such discussions going. 😊
@aubreywycklendt513715 күн бұрын
I think I learned a lot in this. It just shows that my journey with God has to go so much farther. I need to keep learning, understanding, and meditating so that I can have the armor of God that one of the young women spoke about. Also I do not believe I am God but I strive to be like God. He is everything, knows everything and embodies peace and power, and I don’t come close to him but I’ll try my best.
@laniecehurd7714Ай бұрын
This is why it’s so important to not only read your Bible, but to learn proper exegesis of scripture. It’s clear that these women were not properly discipled and did not have a firm foundation laid in their faith. “My people perish for a lack of Knowledge” Hosea 4:6. You can hear that there’s a lot of pain, many unanswered questions and very emotional circumstances that made them turn from God. I was not raised in the church and did not come to Jesus until my 30s, and in the past I shared a lot of these views before God called me. However when I started to read the Bible for myself and seek out God vs basing my opinions on what the world was saying. My eyes were opened. You can be in the church your whole life, going to service every Sunday and still not know God sis!! I will pray for each and every one of these women. Even in their unbelief, God still has his hand on them and is reaching out. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. If you never knew your word, you never knew Jesus!! 😓💔
@kaitlynpelcher1287Ай бұрын
stop pretending that u've actually read the bible, bc if u had, then u would know that's it's mad sexist. that's why i left the church. 2 Timothy 2:12 (woman cannot take authority over a man and must remain silent), 1 Corinthians 11:3-10 (women must cover their heads bc for some reason our heads are shameful to the god who made our head?), Exodus 13:12 (males are god's, not females), Exodus 23:17 (blaming the worship of other deities on women). another thing---if u read the bible, then u would also know that god lacks moral compass, like in Numbers 31:17-18 or when he committed mass genocide in Gensis. the only person who doesn't know ur god's word is u lmao
@kaiviti13 күн бұрын
You are right! Believers must read the word of God for themselves and not rely on the church only for their spiritual growth. I grew up going to church but I have learnt more when I read the Bible on my own & asking God to help me understand.
@effortless458811 күн бұрын
Amen on that this wouldn't even be a debate if people 1. Read the bible and 2. had the holy spirit lead them through the bible to properly exegete it
@ayooluwaajoke3784Ай бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to both views, and judging for myself. One thing is certain, I am very grateful to belong to Christ and all that the Church is and was purposed to be.
@awadiop4215Ай бұрын
one side seems to make sense and be at peace and the other seems to operate from pain and seems to be rather emotional.
@divinedevon9213Ай бұрын
One seems to use their brain and do research , one relies on praying to a slave ship . Foh 😂😂
@demetriusjackson3767Ай бұрын
Not at all, I disagree and I can't fathom how you would figure that at all.
@Mysticallydivine313 күн бұрын
I disagree
@melaninqueenlocs9 күн бұрын
I appreciate this commentary because I have been saved 21 years now. I openly understood the point of each and every woman and reality if we had these types of conversation. I believe a lot of people would be more expecting to Jesus being their lives they would feel heard and understood.
@DiaryofablacksheepАй бұрын
I should’ve gone on this. I’m a former Christian who is an atheist now. This is rare for a black woman. I’ve done a lot of debates, podcasts and shows. This is intriguing
@Sicoy2819 күн бұрын
I just went to your page I like it . I’m agnostic you might shift me into atheism
@effortless458811 күн бұрын
Well thankfully you are wrong on GOD if you're an atheist❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Romans 10:9 King James Version 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
@Mindful.Movement.01Күн бұрын
Same. The only difference for me is that I don’t ever thing I was a Christian I think I was on auto pilot following the doctrine and rules of organized religion and just doing what I was told. I don’t think I was ever a Christian so to speak of that makes sense