Christianity is Mythology: Reflections on my 2-year anniversary of escaping the Bible prison

[@BobPearson-zr1mi]

I struggled with leaving Christianity for nearly 60 years feeling like I was the only one. These opportunities to find others who escaped is very important. The emotional bonds are the hardest, at least for me.

[@hrh4961]

For some time, I have been saying/writing that, in time, Christian Mythology will take it's place alongside Greek Mythology, Egyptian Mythology, Norse Mythology, Roman Mythology, etc, etc. Glad someone else is thinking along those same lines. We all love reinforcement!

[@hrh4961]

@@greganderson2239 If you learned in your krystchun hom skool that the US was "founded on Christian principles," you are seriously ignorant. Need ta git yerself som edumication.

[@hrh4961]

@@greganderson2239 Must be tough going through life with no sense of humor and so very little knowledge. "Say goodnight, Gracie."

[@drzaius844]

In time but not nearly soon enough.

[@mnm8818]

Rant add, Well hope all religions too... Not to be bias or picky. Though Christianity is much more reasonable environment to deconstruct.

[@johnmcleod8961]

if history's any indication, then it will...in the interim............

[@radosawszmid7822]

I am 42y Polish guy and I had to put a little more effort to understand everything you said but I can assure you, I did not skip a second of this video. All I can say is Thank You! Thank you for sharing your story and being so honest with me. I just can't believe that there are people with similar stories. My eyes opened only a few years ago, paradoxically at the moment when I started reading the Bible more seriously, the Old Testament in particular.Same questions raised with no answers from other "serious" christians. In my eyes, they are all scared of such critical thinking. They just want to believe no matter what.These are all amazing people but still...

[@NatureGloseScience]

You've got this, Tim! YOU ARE going to be able to do this full-time and help humanity phase out of mythologies. Our race needs to grow up and ascend out of this. Thank you for sharing your story and your work.

[@fathertime2020]

I went to Catholic school in the 1960s. Now at age 63 I still have mental scars from it.

[@Zoe-dr5ps]

I went in the 80s. Scars here too

[@helencrewdson4392]

​@@Zoe-dr5psme too 😢😢

[@accountontheinternet7747]

I'm impressed by how much you've researched the history of other religions. This was a great message.

[@blaster-zy7xx]

Yup, you figured it out. You saw the man turning the knobs hiding behind the curtain.

[@anrose8335]

I too am an atheist who believed all the scripture quotes, one being, "Study to show thyself approved, a workman that needeth not be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth." Never once in 75 years did I scrutinize that scripture so closely as the Harmonic Atheist does here. It was only by dropping out of church at 75 and immersing myself in the logic of atheistic thought with the writings of Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins that my mind gradually opened up to really "study to show myself approved, etc." I couldn't have done this without the outside help of these great men of scientific thought and the use of what was left of my brain after almost total indoctrination. Even as a child, though, questions entered my mind concerning the fallacy of religion but I kept sweeping them aside believing the lie of the patriarchal society in which we live. Thank you for this excellent truly honest video.

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thanks for sharing that, Anna! Please reach out if you'd be up for an interview: [e-mail]

[@harveywabbit9541]

Recommend Science of the Bible or Hebrew Mythology by Milton Woolley. free on the net.

[@LadyhawksLairDotCom]

Wow! To make it out at your age is highly unusual. Just curious, but how did you handle any guilt that may have come your way? Christianity comes with a lot of baggage. I treated non-Christians like shit. I had an appallingly hateful attitude toward gays, atheists, those who didn't share the same faith I did, pretty much anyone who didn't toe the line. I think my 81-year-old mother is incapable of doing what you did because she'd be forced to confront her own darkness. She has to believe she is good, that she never caused any harm ever. She'd have to admit my father was abusive. She'd have to admit that she was occasionally abusive in the name of her faith. The odds of her coming out of the Christian Trump cult are basically zero in my estimation. Unfortunately, if Trump doesn't win in November (and for the sake of the planet, I hope he does not), it will likely destroy our family. Since I'm disabled, I have no idea what will happen to me. If Trump wins, it will mollify his followers, but I'm sure the Republicans have people with "invisible" disabilities in their sites. My mother thinks that because I'm "truly" disabled I'll be spared. She's so naive. I'm going to try to enjoy these last couple of months because after that...????? It's so sad for all of us.

[@whippet71]

Thanks for the personal, passionate and humble testimony! I went through the same desire for truth. It costs me mental and emotional stress, a lifetime of close family ties and friendships. Lost years, I'll never get back. Nevertheless, the joy of the truth in my soul now, was worth every god damn penny of agony, uncertainty and fear. My friend now is me and my communion is with truth and freedom from the vicious mind prison of religion. Congratulations on your couragous prison break.

[@chainedmindsasylum]

I just showed my wife your segment on the Jericho story. Your heartfelt way of sharing that story is invaluable to opening people's eyes to the horrors and injustices of that Book 📖 Well done Tim 👍

[@nanmartin7324]

How did she respond? I would love to share this stuff withy husband but he is still so fundie, I am afraid to tell him what I am learning.

[@chainedmindsasylum]

@@nanmartin7324 She responded very well. If you can get him to at least listen it's a planted seed if nothing else 🙏 Truth does not fear investigation 🕵️ I myself am a former fundamentalist Christian and I had to sincerely question things like when Jesus told a group of his followers that some of them wouldn't die before his second coming. Also in Mark 13, Matthew 24 and Luke 21 that the generation who saw the temple destroyed (70 AD) wouldn't pass away before his return. There are many other problems of course but I found it best to use the Bible itself to break someone's programming. It's not easy because many are held in chains by FEAR not Love ♥️ Fear is a tremendous tool used against us Peace and Love to you ♥️

[@renny3816]

I’m glad you speak out against circumcision. It needs to be spoken against more often. I will NOT circumcise my future sons, because it’s not necessary and it’s his body.

[@SilverSixpence888]

When I had my first son, 21 years ago, the midwife had a form already filled out with "consent" to mutilate my child, all i had to do was sign it. I was nearly physically sick. WTF??? How many women, in the immediate post-natal blur, signed it? I have no idea. Only 2 years later, when my second son was born (same hospital) the practice had been abandoned. Thank the gods.

[@SilverSixpence888]

I didnt sign of course incase that wasn't clear!

[@heatherclark8668]

Before mothers sign a form of consent to mutilate the child's genitals, they need to ask themselves how they would feel if their parents did the same thing to them when they were a baby. We are all, rightfully, horrified at the thought of female circumcision but male circumcision is horrific too.

[@LadyhawksLairDotCom]

Super insane it's still considered OK for male children. NOT OK!!!

[@ElDavidThomas]

I like hearing other people's deconversion story. For me, once I concluded the creation and fall of man myth wasn't factual, everything else fell apart. Then I started seeing the things you mentioned with a new set of eyes.

[@Hueman163]

You give the best gospel presentation. I almost became a christian again. You also have the best deconversion story and explanation on the internet. Thank god for Numbers 31.

[@subcitizen2012]

Love that part towards the end, it's been with me for a while too: many former Christians study the Bible more than actual Christians.

[@randomname4726]

I saw a good study recently where they tested the bible knowledge of a group of Christians and Atheists and the Atheist scores were significantly higher.

[@mrandersong1]

I noticed when I was a Christian that belief in the Bible creates this kinda self hatred that is unmatched. You’re always trying to live up to this perfect gods standards and seeking his forgiveness because of your evil nature. That’s what really broke me, keeps you on a hamster wheel of seeking magic mans favor and looking down on anyone who isn’t a Christian.

[@Fourwindsofsuccess]

It makes you a misanthrope which in recent years I’ve come to conclusion. A Misanthrope is a person who dislikes humankind and avoids human society. That’s what they are even though they’ll debate this since they are over these organizations to give back to you if you need food, rent assistance, etc. I feel most do this stuff because it’s to seek a high favor from their version of ‘God’. The Bible makes you hate humanity & makes you hate being human. Look at all the stories of rape, genocide, slavery, human sacrifices, etc. reading that sick stuff will make you justify your hatred of other human beings. That’s why they’ll use those passages to justify their judgements or hate of other people.

[@anita10674]

Agreed, I'm not sure there's a way to be a Christian without intense self-hatred. We are literally paying with our time and money for someone else to verbally and psychologically abuse us.

[@donovanwilliamsroker4734]

You nailed it!🤜🏾 ❤🤛🏾

[@FiveNineO]

It's very clever and very sinister

[@VonHanshaw]

I wasn't aware of your whole story. Thanks for being transparent, real and brutally honest. Great video Tim!

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thank you, Von!!! Likewise.

[@B.S._Lewis]

I totally get your aha moment with the Jericho story. I had a similar one when it just occurred to me during church that we were glorifying a human sacrifice and partaking in cannibalistic rituals. I sympathized with the humanity of Jesus too much and felt horrified and sick to my stomach.

[@inreallife21]

Lol! I love your handle hahaha

[@B.S._Lewis]

@@inreallife21 Thanks, you should check the channel. It's a satirical character.

[@inreallife21]

@@B.S._Lewis LOL the bull intro is hilarious 🤣 subbed

[@B.S._Lewis]

@@inreallife21 Much appreciated.

[@TorianTammas]

Let us not forget that a simple human preacher wad turned into a god. This us according to the very book some people worship idolatry.

[@richardwilliams473]

It is very simple: The Bible was written by mankind with vivid imaginations

[@anthonyjohn9000]

You are absolutely right, 100%.

[@tealx2014]

It was meant for the Hebrews! For as I know, the whole world is not Hebrews!

[@VaughanMcCue]

@Richard Williams Vivid imaginations, as long as you overlook the extensive plagiarism.

[@joaquinmisajr.1215]

They had good scribes, too. Borrowed from earlier civilizations , Homer & other ancient authors. .. whose stories were tweaked through the ages. And when repeated over time by a believer soon becomes the truth.

[@anthonyjohn9000]

@@joaquinmisajr.1215 what you say is absolutely right,.

[@onedaya_martian1238]

WOW Tim !! A truly heartfelt and excellent second anniversary presentation. THIS is what the definition of a "Saint" is !! The protestant cult seems to define sainthood as simply being a member, whereas, at least, the catholic cult I came from defined it as having desirable characteristics such as devotion, noble suffering, demonstrable love of fellow folks etc.; in other words someone who possesses the best attributes of being human that one should strive to emulate. From this perspective, please accept this "virtual hug" as encouragement in your saintly ways. To paraphrase a quote, supposedly from Ghandi, "First they hate you, then they fight you, then they listen to you, then you open their eyes and the world becomes a better place". Much love, bro'

[@juba9575]

Listening to this for the 3rd time. Thank you Tim for starting this much needed channel. Your analysis of Joshua and his army keeping the virgin girls to themselves was spot on.

[@LuminesBreezer--]

You too? The 'people being suckered into this' piece I ended up playing back a few times because I thought about not only family, but so many devoting this one life into absolutely nothing. It's crazy.

[@dokehannah]

I remember singing that song about Jericho as a kid. I actually had no idea what came next until finding your channel just recently. I've been out of religion since I was 19 and I'm 30 now, but I don't think I had fully deconverted because I still saw the beautiful parts of religion that I miss which I've longed for in the past couple years especially. It's crazy that I'm only now realizing how messed up some of these stories are and that I didn't see them as such growing up. Your channel is really helping me sort through all of this so thank you.

[@chadkndr]

Thank you for this. Been slowly making my way through your backlog. A lot of the deconversion stories I've heard are somewhat hard for me to relate to, but I relate to yours on so many levels. It has been so hard to go through this. Easily the most difficult thing I have ever gone through in my life, but knowing there are others out there that share a very similar story makes it easier. I still have a very long way to go, and so so so much to unravel, and sift through. It hurts. It's like a car crash that you can't look away from. I spend hours daily deep diving into all of it. I know this is an older video now, but truly, you're "doing the Lord's work" as they say. Wishing the best for you, myself, and everyone else on this path moving forward.

[@Radz-kc5ri]

Tim. I've been following your channel for only a few weeks now. I've been catching up on what i've been missing. Got to say, all of it is so very, very good. Totally relatable. Very educational also. Congratulations on two years of freedom! And THANK YOU!!

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thank you! I appreciate your support!!

[@jeremygarcia1142]

Great channel and podcast! I came to the rude awakening that Christianity was no different than any other mythology or theology when I studied money and realized that money and inflation is an older falsety than Christianity is. Oddly enough, studying Bitcoin in my studies on money finally took the Christian veil over my eyes. This may sound farfetched but I was just as guffawed as you were when I came to my senses that everything I was taught about money was a farce. The falseties around money are older than 5000 years old. I am now on the same journey as you are....to seek the truth for my own theological beliefs. This is going to be such a fun adventure, albeit sometimes scary/hurtful/surprising, as I unveil the mysteries of all prior theologies. I was a Christian for 20+ years. Thank you so much for your channel! You are an inspiration! One book that I read that helped open my eyes was called, The History of God.

[@kirkraab9495]

Tim, your monologue is brilliantly conceived and executed. Thanks for doing this.

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thank you, Kirk! I really appreciate your support. --Tim

[@susantocp]

I'm currently going through my deconstruction process, and it's a lonely journey. I live in a country with pretty decent religious tolerance, but being unaffiliated (atheism, agnosticism, etc) is not permitted. My national identity card even lists my religion on it. Videos like yours are helping me cope, as it's really hard for me to find a community of folks who have gone through or are going through the same thing I am. For now, I mostly have to keep my thoughts to myself, as it's not safe to talk about it. Maybe one day I can also share my thoughts as freely as you. But for now, I can't imagine the backlash of starting a channel like yours in my context. Thank you for sharing.

[@kd1s]

I've been an atheist for 41 years. It took studying the KJV Bible in my catholic high school when I realized it was all based on what I term horse shit. And so that brought the questions out. . And this was about the same time as the abuse scandal started and the church was covering it up. That shot all their credibility to shit. Then I realized I valued my Sunday mornings and so walked away from Catholicism It's also when I found out what the Nicean council of 325CE was about - that's when they decided the issue of the triune god. Seriously. And there were many many councils over time to hash out the inconsistencies of the Bible.

[@JLFAN2009]

The Catholic Church long ago lost her credibility as an institution for teaching human sexual morals, with the increasing revelations of scandals involving pedophile priests.

[@FirstOfTheYear777]

Would love to see the project on the zodiac and the gospel of Mark. Thanks again for another great video Tim. Made it out of Christianity just over a year ago myself. Hope you’re doing well, this work you’re doing on this channel is helping me and I’m sure many many others a lot as we process

[@janelr6516]

Same here!

[@skydaddyissues3884]

You have echoed my exact sentiments, journey and current anxieties about shielding my child from Christian extended family. Thank you for leading in this area. It’s so needed for our generation to save our children’s generation.

[@shriggs55]

That's good advice.-"This doesn't sound right." I could have used that 35 years ago.

[@LeighAnnMiller]

I have been contemplating reaching out to you about my deconversion story now that it’s been over a year from really waking up and being comfortable enough to associate with considering myself an atheist. My story definitely centers around sexuality and that’s why I was hesitant to speak but I’d love to talk when your schedule opens up.

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Hi, Megan, I'd love to chat. Feel free to reach out when you feel up to it. [e-mail]

[@LeighAnnMiller]

@@HarmonicAtheist Thanks! I will be sure to do that.

[@carlo6912]

Tim, thank you for sharing you story. It's really an inspiration. I can totally relate to trying to live this life as a perfect Christian and constantly being judged by your brethren when we fall short.

[@GonzalesLanguages]

As a Southern Baptist, i want to thank you for sharing this. I still believe in some supreme God but not the vindictive one mentioned in the bible bible.b

[@rosalindc9651]

Same ❤

[@bobgarbett3229]

I’m just watching your KZbin video about your 2 year anniversary of leaving the faith. My journey has been different yet with the same conclusions as you. I was raised as a fundamentalist Christian then eventually fazed and then the foundations razed. Like you I could never go back I have discovered such a broad beautiful world outside the tight claustrophobic confines of Christianity that to go back would be akin the going back to kindergarten. Thank you! Keep up the great work countless numbers of perplexed and disillusioned followers need to see and hear this. Ps: My turn around began when I realised the truth that all religions are “ selling water by the river”

[@RonaldWolberg]

Tim, you are a powerful witness to truth, reality and critical thinking. I myself am a former Catholic deacon who left the church and Christianity about the same time as you. Keep up the good work!

[@mattmason7657]

Brilliant Tim and always look forward to your posts, like you a grew up as a Christian and later in life a few things puzzled me, I began searching for the truth and de-converted and my rationality and reasoning returned... Keep up the work great Tim...

[@Ujasoncook9267]

Fwiw you're story as related in past videos encouraged me to analyze what I had dedicated a huge chunk of my life to as well. Still have the muck and dirt on me but at least I'm out. Not sure what to think about anything really, but believing in myself instead of some mythical being is a better explanation than what I was doing.

[@sallyskinner4476]

I have struggled with this since I was old enough to understand death. I am now 67. I have PSTD over unfounded guilt caused when I was young over my reality as compared to my upbringing. An interesting show that was on in the 90's called, "The Mysteries of the Bible", was my jumping off point. Watching a more in depth historical rendition illuminated the ridiculousness and how contrived and vague the book really is. The lack of science, other previous religions story contributions, the history of thecanonizing of the books! Who made it in and who was left out! All by Men! Look at the Anglican church, it was devised so Henry the 8th could get a devorce instead of killing his wives!! My 92 yr. Old Mother is a devote Christian to this day! She is very outgoing. I on the other hand am a very shy more introverted person like my Dad. It is so much more difficult to fit into Christianity when you are such!

[@tonygilchrist9113]

Tim thank you for this one. You have encouraged me to be honest with myself & face these hard issues full on. I think you show a great deal of integrity. Thanks to Bart Erhman, Doug from Pinecreek,, Mythvision & yourself I feel more informed than ever before. Keep them coming please 👍

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thank you, Tony, I appreciate that encouragement.

[@VaughanMcCue]

@Tony Gilchrist It should not be too difficult to arrange a name change. Tony Gilsatán has an exotic appeal. You could earn PinePoints from St-Doug-of-PineCreek to cover the costs or get a job in the Wichita office with Myron. BTW, hearing more of your story might be cathartic for you and beneficial to other would-be escapees fearful of tunnelling out of the confines of superstition. Thanks for your interest and contribution.

[@barrylyndongurley]

Tim, you're courage to confront and accept the truth is inspiring and admirable. Thanks so much for sharing this!

[@Fourwindsofsuccess]

@ 30:03 - 30:06 yes the obsession with boy children and a man’s circumcising. It’s horrible. Unfortunately me and my brother was born at a hospital named “Holy Cross Hospital” hospital because my elder Christian relatives forced my mother to birthed us there 🙄. I have no idea if my mom let them did that garbage to my male sibling, I never talked about that since she was not even Christian. On the other hand the whole sexual slavery for women in there or rape or incest is horrible. Then the whole human sacrifices as a whole of humanity or genocides is what turned me off from it.

[@queendivine3044]

I think most good hearted people have thoughts like you. When you said you don't want to be an empty vessel you mean you want to pour into others love and goodness of Christ. I to have walked away from Christainity myself. I love listening to your channel. I want to also say you are not empty now even not being in Christ. You still have love, kindness and truth. The truth is you don't care how others accept the fact that you are not Christain yet you still have a light within you that is helping others guide and accept themselves as not deserving of hell or anything that is destructive because they won't take on Christ and then work on becoming Christlike. Everyone has good and bad inside of us. We are all capable of sharing what is good inside of us with not only ourselves but with others. I know one thing gor sure is I became so depressed thinking about the whole ideal that others I love who have not accepted Christ and living like Christains deserve some type of hell or correction until they become Christ like. Yet to become more non judgemental and religious as I not set myself on high as if I'm with this God and judge others under this doctrine yet seem them as imperfect people like myself is a better peace. One thing I do do is protect myself from things that has me feeling empty. Yes I'm responsible for my own cup called the vessels that my soul is carrying so I norish my soul with good things such as respect, love, goodness and kindness. Everyone is capable and deserving of that no matter what. Don't look outside yourself to find this from others because you carrying it inside yourself. The thing about you and your testimony is anyone who comes to you and listens to you leaves feeling happier, positive and more open. That is you very own candle that you carry that you in return turn and able able to help light another souls candle rather than knocking them down. That is a gift. Not many have that. Your not debating your just stating your own truth and so many people are in agreement with what you share as well. To open your own mind with like minded people and to share it with them in love and in truth is a sign your not an empty vessel by far. Thanks for sharing this.

[@Fourwindsofsuccess]

I agree. Thank you for this giveaway.

[@marygilson3490]

What an experience that must have been for you! I cannot imagine what it must have been like! - (To happen during worship with the children and family! After all of those years etc.! ). I thank you for your videos and the guests and your channel. You have helped me greatly. Thankfully I was on my own when the last penny or pennies finally dropped for me. It can be quite weird or freaky when that last penny drops and you realise 'hang on a minute'- 'hold up' - 'this is not true!' I think that you have helped me by saving me a lot of time in my journey and your channel and a number of other channels and people may have helped to save my sanity as well. I have seen what you have had to tolerate from the odd people in the comments sections sometimes! I think that you have handled them in a very kind, tolerant and loving way. I don't think that I could have been quite a gracious! What you have gone through (and are going through still possibly ) is very much appreciated. You are putting it to it's best use. You are helping others. You have helped me anyway. Ta very much!

[@jeffreygrantsmith]

I listened to your interview with the fiery and intelligent Nancy O'Brien Simpson. That hit me hard. And it was very encouraging. I just listened to you recount your personal story here. Thank you. I've been deconverting for years. Little by little. I appreciate your reasoned and methodical treatment of the historical origins of the Abrahamic cult, Judaism and its subcult, Christianity. I can't get enough. Again, thank you for your compassionate demeanor. It's very healing.

[@blaster-zy7xx]

I left at a very young age when I realized that the more I learned about science and religion, the more they diverged, not converged as I would expect if religion was correct. And Christanity is VERY divergent from science. Many people at this phase walk away from science. I went the other way. I'm glad I did.

[@randellmathews5961]

Thank you so much for sharing your personal journey with us. Waking up is almost indescribable wonderful, and there is a price we pay for it . Somebody said, NO PRICE IS TO HIGH TO PAY TO OWN YOURSELF. Keep up the good work and , Thanks again .

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thanks, Randell!

[@aliceinwonderland-x3n]

Love that quote!

[@calanm7880]

I didnt want to watch this video because too close to home, but my autoplay started it: your story was so similar to mine (we loved the same preachers). The cognitive dissonance that in the end I could not resolve was ppl outside the church being so much kinder than those inside. Church "family" who are willing to weaponize inner pain and mental illness against you to fulfil their petty ambitions/ narcissistic control. I simply refused to question this - my body and mind screaming at me that something was far wrong. Covid taking me out of that weekly cycle let me see how miserable I'd been. Your channel is a kind and honest place from what I've seen, utterly engaging and persuasive. A year ago I'd be here giving you patronising platitudes that you were in my thoughts .. you genuinely are now lol, as an honest brave friend, and dare I say it, a brother. Your love is tangible, thank you! [Edit: the shunning and pushback you describe is something that needs exposed in wider society. It's the ultimate emotional weapon that cults like JWs & Scientology use - if Christians have such very conditional "love" then that ought to known more widely too so ordinary folks know it's all just a transactional arrangement I.e. dont believe what the book says]

[@subcitizen2012]

Amazing story, thank you for sharing. About 23 years ago I started reading the Bible cover to cover. I got through most of the old testiment, but I couldn't finish it, and when I put it down I was pretty de-convinced. After being raised Christian and went through a pretty typical childhood and teenage years, it was done. Never meaningfully looked back, even though I've struggled and had regrets about it. In a way, de-converts are bearing an entire new cross that most Christians will never be able to appreciate or understand, and we adhere to an even higher truth and calling. After many long and difficult years, hearing a story like yours brings me hope and joy, and we're glad to have you. Maybe the real light will one day prevail and we can finally close the good book and put it behind a display in a museum.

[@billguthrie2218]

Ha ha ! Yep!.. "The planet got duped for 2,000 years!" Unbelievable Many are still duped. So glad that some of us are no longer duped and and not spreading the dupe. We're unduping all we can.

[@godschool8427]

It was trying to learn more about Christianity so I could witness better that lead to me leaving the faith. Though I admire your courage, I won't try to talk anyone out who doesn't first show they're already leaning that way. Some Christians get downright warlike if you try to tell them how deluded they are as history shows and they don't use the Sword of the Spirit either. I'm not going to give them a reason to prove to their narcissistic deity how blindly loyal they are.

[@renny3816]

They do het warlike and almost curse you, if you dare ask a simple question.

[@VaughanMcCue]

@god school I don't think we need to talk anyone out of anything. Just asking questions that expose their fallacious thinking is the pebble in the shoe. If they make sense, then you might join them. The recipient of your kindness (you would not bother if you did not care about the victim's well-being) will benefit if you keep providing enough inoculations to eradicate The God Virus. They will eventually discover they are wearing concrete boots in a river of madness. Facts are insignificant in a damaged theistic mind, so providing the information is futile. Ask questions, but don't expect honest answers. Theists are generally not capable of that. The God Virus is an excellent book by Dr Darryl Ray.

[@ColdIronGaming]

I've been watching a mix of the older stuff and the new stuff being posted here over the past few weeks. I am a tad amused at how The Matrix gets referenced in quite a few of the episodes here. There are a whole lot of Christianity metaphors in those movies, so it works.

[@susansmiles2630]

Thank you so much, Tim for spearheading specific, concrete ways to help! You hae such a calming Presence. Thanks for holding up one of the tent stakes! that helps to keep us sane! Blessings!

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thanks, Susan!!

[@donaldhawkins5209]

Tim my heart goes out to you I can feel your pain hang in there the pain will fade the truth will set you free

[@wizolufa1452]

Very Interesing, I've traded on and off as well. I actually struck it big with the whole GME short squeeze situation that happened earlier this year. Do you have a channel where you talk about trading?

[@HarmonicAtheist]

I don't. I recommend studying Scott Carney's work on Harmonic trading.

[@anniesue4456]

Now you understand why Separation of Church and State is so vital to societies protection

[@lizhoward9754]

This was an amazing episode! Thank you for all your hard work and determination! You know how Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses knock on doors to spread the “truth”? Well sometimes I feel like doing that with the real hard truth facts of the Bible. I am not a full-blown atheist or agnostic but I am very anti-Bible. If there was ever any true Christianity, the Bible destroyed it with all its plagiarism from mythology. I was raised Catholic and even as a child the whole Bible thing just never quite passed the old sniff test for me. As a child, it never made sense to me that a loving God would torture people because they weren’t “chosen” or condemn people to eternal Hell for sinning and not accepting Jesus. The Bible makes God out to be a sadistic, socio-pathetic, narcissist. If that is “God”, who would want to be with someone like that?

[@cardcounter21]

I have a question for any Christians who are reading this. We know that of Jesus’ four brothers (who all denied his divinity) James finally converts to Christianity after allegedly witnessing the resurrected Jesus in person so the question is this: what happens to the other three brothers who didn’t convert? Does Jesus condemn his own family to everlasting torment for not accepting him as Christ or does he 'pull some strings' to allow them to sidestep judgement and escape eternal damnation? Either answer doesn’t look good!

[@DMRVirtual--David]

Jesus was a myth. Who story was false

[@carolwilliams8511]

Richard Dawkins has described the God of the Old Testament as one of the most unpleasant characters in all fiction. (The God Delusion).

[@johnjohnson1657]

Great job...don't forget Paul's travels too include the shipwreck and on to Rome are exactly the same travels of Josephus...too include the shipwreck. Kudos. Look forward to you getting that book done...hint hint ;)

[@onedaya_martian1238]

Saul of Tarsus was the Joseph Smith of antiquity and wrote under a pysudonym, setting the stage for acolytes to write up Greek stories that would become the gospels.

[@renny3816]

@OneDayA_Martian Where did you get this from?

[@SilverSixpence888]

@@renny3816 "The Homeric Epics and the Gospel of Mark" Dennis R MacDonald. Try that.

[@kevinwilmore3604]

I was just getting ready to tune you out until you said "CHRIST IS IN YOU." That's the first "AXIOM." The world is a false version of "REALITY."

[@Neon-Shadowcaster]

Congratulations on your 2nd anniversary Tim!!!

[@heatherclark8668]

Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into making these videos. I watch many videos and listen to many podcasts from people from all different backgrounds and walks of life. My favourite people are ex-Christians because they know the Bible so well and, like you, are usually gentle, respectful, beautiful people. Apart from the theology, I get an awful lot out of listening to people's personal experiences. I find it very comforting.

[@theugliestmanever5728]

This hit me like a ton of bricks. Thanks for being so open. Any plans to start uploading just the audio as a podcast?

[@HarmonicAtheist]

I'm hoping to soon but at the moment I have a very tight schedule but I will do so when I can, for sure.

[@elliottpaine9259]

@@HarmonicAtheist Tim, you could re upload all youve already made without the labor of "new content" into a podcast. I would support you on that endeavor!

[@vintagegal5616]

I am reading this a year later and wow! I am slowly deconstructing, and you are provid8ng the best info yet. I love God so much, but this video made good points for me to consider. It’s hard, so I hope this channel will be a help to me.

[@livelaughlove1221]

I understand how is your journey coming along ? I am unsure I want to turn from God completely it's been hard this past year

[@theatlantean8008]

Amazing truth, I left the Bible 10 years ago and my journey to truth is wonderful ❤❤

[@JulietTheGirl]

Thank you so much for your work! It is so needed! Can't wait for the updates! Greetings and love from Riga, Latvia! ♥️

[@davida.taylor8444]

Tim, that was a very powerful presentation, thank you for sharing it. Your channel has been very therapeutic as I am on the path to deconverting myself after I lost a relationship when she found out I thought evolution was true and she thought the universe was 6000 years old. She questioned the rest of my faith, we ended things, and that triggered me onto this journey and it has NOT been easy or fun, but I can't and won't go back now. I wish you all the best in this endeavor. I'll add also that Jordan Peterson has said, I think from Jung, that people don't have ideas, ideas have people, and that's why breaking free and even discussing this with others is so perilous. I'm looking forward to reading your work. Some of the parallels you mentioned between Xty and Homer don't seem to hold up imho, but my ears are still open.

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thank you!! And sorry for the rough road you've faced. I'll be diving more into Homer soon, but I'd recommend watching MythVision videos on Dennis MacDonald, and reading his books.

[@jeannemalaby2688]

We appreciate your openness and honesty 💖

[@larryfulkerson4505]

I didn't leave religion because I'm ignorant of scriptures. I left the church because the scriptures are ignorant of reality.

[@woodr74]

Tim, we don't know each other personally but I feel we do. So many parallels in my struggles with "God's Word", which I taught for 25 years, 16 as a pastor. I reached a point where the brutality of the God of the Bible could not be justified when I humanized the victims of this allegedly divine will. Anyways, thank you and I look forward to learning more from you.

[@VaughanMcCue]

Twelve minutes in, and I can't stand this crap anymore. It is like the ramblings of an idiot who talks to light poles. A sickening reminder because I was like that! I am so pleased that Tim escaped the world of make-believe or, in the words of Dr Pete Boghossian, Pretending to know what we do not know.

[@shirleybarbuto8345]

Oh Tim…thank you so much for your honesty about the painful and costly road that is our lot when we choose deconstruction. You are an inspiration to me and give me courage to keep enquiring and to keep learning. Thank you for sharing your hard won knowledge with us. So much about the Christianity that I have been part of offends my very soul. Your scholarship helps me understand why. Take heart, stay passionate and strong. You have the respect, love and support of many like me. You help me wrestle my way into the light.👏👏

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thanks, Shirley! Please reach out if you ever feel like you'd want to share your story: [e-mail]

[@SilverSixpence888]

Awesome. Do you have a book list? I found that every time I poked at christianity, it fell in a heap. In every single direction I went, on any topic, it just disintegrated. Like you, I deconverted suddenly, like a slap in the face, then freedom.

[@HarmonicAtheist]

I'm working on an actual book list, but for now I'll share this: Start with the YT video by Bill Zuersher called Seeing Through Christianity. If you have time/interest in digging deeper, get as familiar as possible w/ the book of Enoch: parallel.thebookofenoch.info/ alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/Book%20of%20Enoch%20NT%20Verses.htm .... and the other non-canonical books: www.earlychristianwritings.com/ www.pseudepigrapha.com/ Get books on the Dead Sea Scrolls too, of course. Dive into Dennis MacDonald's books www.amazon.com/s?k=dennis+macdonald Start watching MythVision, and Dragons in Genesis, on KZbin. Watch as much from Dr. Bob (Robert Price), Dennis MacDonald, Richard Carrier, Bart Ehrman, etc., on KZbin. Get on sites like jstor and academia.edu and start researching everything you can about Mimesis (Homeric episodes rewritten into the Gospels, etc.), and everything about 2nd Temple Judaism. Read the Vridar blog, from years back if possible. That's what I do nonstop + about 100 other things :)

[@SilverSixpence888]

@@HarmonicAtheist Wow thanks for that. Yes i do want to have a look at Enoch (probably will try and find an audio version). I already follow MythVision, and DiG! Have read all of Carrier's books (or listened) and LOVE them. Haven't read all of Price (so many) but have done several. Read most of Ehrman. We are on the same track!! I will certainly look at the academia website - i haven't read anything on Homeric epics and gospels, that is of huge interest though, so I certainly will follow that up. I've occasionally gone to Vridar too. Hey great minds...?

[@dukeemzworth3005]

Mark Twain on the Bible : "It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it, some clever fables, some blood-drenched history, some good morals, a wealth of obscenity and upwards of a thousand lies." Mark Twain on Christianity : I bring you the stately matron named Christendom, returning bedraggled, besmirched, and dishonored, from pirate raids in Manchuria, South Africa, and the Philippines, with her soul full of meanness, her pocket full of boodle, and her mouth full of pious hypocrisies. Give her soap and towel, but hide the looking glass."

[@helenr4300]

There are churches where these issues are discussed, where issues of the authorship and the canon are Bible 101 in the training of the clergy. When the matter of Old Testament issues are openly grappled with - Noah vs Gilgamesh; poetic stories of Job and Jonah. People writing and putting words in God's mouth as they assume a God would expect this or that (actions normal in the culture of war then). New Testament echoes of the other stories around, The corner of the church that it sounds you were rooted and raised in is one that couldn't handle those questions, but those of us dismissed as dodgy liberals etc have long sat with those questions.

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Then there is no need for them to be called churches, those are just community groups or something like that. If you're not a Christian group, why use a Christian title?

[@helenr4300]

@@HarmonicAtheist sadly for all your discoveries you have no understanding of the breadth of Christianity. You still see it only as the extreme literalism that nurtured you and had no room for your questions. That you have arrived at atheism is your journey, I do not question your journey or your previous faith. Please respect that others can see the Bible as human written and not intended to be taken literally yet still hold to faith in God, our journeys are also valid.

[@Fourwindsofsuccess]

@@HarmonicAtheist this person is still indoctrinated.

[@kimcowan7210]

What book would you suggest for someone to read that explains the similarities between ancient myths and Christianity? I know you mentioned one but did not get the name and am not sure where it was in this video. Thanks!

[@harveywabbit9541]

The Atheist Milton Woolley wrote an excellent book called Science of the Bible or Hebrew Mythology. free on the net.

[@kimcowan7210]

Thanks!

[@AllenLifelongTexan]

This is one of the greatest videos I have ever seen. I wish I could get all of my Christian family and friends to watch it with an open mind, but of course they never will.

[@Fourwindsofsuccess]

I wish I could get my grandparents to do so but they will not. They believe in the male god in the sky who controls everything with another male named “Satan” who’s out to get them. They have crazy conspiracy theories that’s been indoctrinated into them about the government, misanthropic views, and their to heavily blinded on science/history.

[@josh8387]

Same feeling here. I will give it a shot.

[@elisavintervejr]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Happy Anniversary. Something i always hear when people deconvert, is that they were never saved - so that's the reason! But when i listen you - nobody can say that you were not didicated to your faith - when you believed... Thank you for your work. I am in the deconversion process myself. Your video has helped me so much💜👏🏻

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thanks, Clara! Feel free to reach out if you'd ever want to do an interview. [e-mail]

[@tommihail2178]

I understand you Tim..In all the years I believed praying in Jesus name not one prayer was answered..Jesus didn't do a smidgen for me though christians quote "He'll supply all your needs"?? More power to you Tim. Regards from Australia ❤️

[@sunflowerhelen9933]

This brought back memories of the 8 months I spent helping teach English to preschool and kindergarten kids in a church school in Chihuahua, Mexico, in the 90's. We shared an outdoor play area with the school for New Tribes Missions children that was next door, and one of my students was part of a missionary family from Canada. I think the parents were out trying to reach isolated tribes while someone else looked after their kids.

[@GaderineInsomniac]

Hi, Tim. Was your homeschool curriculum published by ATIA (aka Bill Gothard-ism)?

[@HarmonicAtheist]

We just used Bob Jones and Abeka curriculum, as far as I recall, although my dad did have a set of Bill Gothard character development books that I glanced through many times.

[@GaderineInsomniac]

Ah...Gothard promoted that missionary video you mentioned. That's why I asked. Thanks!

[@aserher215]

I grew up a protestant christian and leaving christianity was the best life decision I've ever made, the irony of it all is that reading the bible fomented my atheism and even though I tried giving christianity a second chance, my rational thinking stopped me from falling again into the vacuous logic that christianity creates.

[@MrMattSax]

You said you had a goal to create content where you discuss the Egyptian and Greek influences on Christianity, the references in the NT to Enoch, etc. did you make that content? All I find are interviews which tend to have a lot of fluff and kind of ramble.

[@tonyat8396]

Happy Anniversary😀😀

[@rsnsol2490]

Love this Tim, looking forward to your future projects you mentioned. Can you point me to a resource that talks about yahweh being a son of El? I can certainly see how thats possible but when i start searching i cannot find yahweh in that pantheon, i found Baal but no YHVH yet. Thanks

[@HarmonicAtheist]

A good basic intro is on KZbin - Bill Zuersher's Seeing Through Christianity. Lots of books on it available as well, but if you prefer video, I'm sure MythVision, as well as Dragons in Genesis, have some chats on it. Jacob Berman (History Valley)'s YT channel talked about it a while ago too.

[@rsnsol2490]

@@HarmonicAtheist Thankyou so much

[@LM-jz9vh]

@@rsnsol2490 The Biblical editors tried to cover it up but my previous post has references to articles you can read.

[@LM-jz9vh]

@@rsnsol2490 If you look for my post in the main comments section, you will see all the references to articles to read. It starts with "In Reference to Deuteronomy 32:8-9."

[@seangavingregory4367]

Wow good for you brother... I had my illumination about a year after you did.

[@AnswersFromJenesis]

Good to hear your heart again, Tim! During the first part, when you were reciting your past beliefs and love for Christianity, it sounded very nostalgic, almost as if you wish you still believed all that. I'm glad truth was more important to you. I think only truth seekers will go down this path. You and I have approached this VERY differently, but we have reached the same conclusions. There are SO many problems with what we have always been taught, and it is up to us to expose them. I wonder if you met my parents. They were Wycliffe missionaries in Papua New Guinea for many years, translating the Bible there. Eventually, my step-dad developed a computer program for them to translate the NT in 5 years instead of 25. I'm actually still proud of what he did there. After that, they became the "face" of Wycliffe and travelled all over as the marketing arm, trying to get others to either donate or sign up to translate the Bible. Count me in as one who has some ideas on how to teach others this stuff. I'm with you on this one! Write me privately about the sad part. You know I'm always here for you. You need to monetize this and trade "full-time." You know you can make enough in one hour a day to provide for your family. Then do this full-time! Yes, we absolutely need to be able to help people heal emotionally from all this. I see this over and over and over again. I've got some ideas there, too. Great video!

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thanks, Jen! I appreciate all your thoughts here. I probably did come across your parents or at least their computer technology at some point in all the seminars I attended with New Tribes. I appreciate your encouragement!

[@NitroRoo]

Really appreciate this comment and the video itself. I worked very closely with Wycliffe, and was also a 3rd generation mk (mom was born in Papua New Guinea in the early 50's). Deconversion has been internally tough but mentally fascinating. I miss the community I had the most.

[@mattng4707]

Worse thing is we were taught YOU WERE BORN AS A SINNER from birth, yes as a baby, a flipin baby is sinful, WOW, as a dad this repulses me to the core that type of thinking and philosophy is utter bullshit, and harmful in so many levels.

[@michaellemmen]

Not all Christians believe that

[@heatherclark8668]

Many Christians shun others not just for leaving the faith but for leaving the particular church or denomination There is a real tribal mentality going on here

[@JessSienna]

Have you done a video on your deconvertion I don’t think I’ve actually seen it? X

[@MLeibs]

Bingo! I recommend Christopher Hitchens next to help you better debate and discuss with theists who are willing to have an open conversation.

[@sungazer65]

It's so HARD to present these things to others... its so painful to watch people reject it completely.....and it's all due to FEAR! FEAR of 'burning in Hell for eternity '. I'm 9 months into deconstructing and I rejected it at first.

[@livelaughlove1221]

How are you doing now ?

[@ziploc2000]

I've watched several of your interviews with deconstructing/escaping Christianity, and it led me to many other channels with people telling their stories of how they saw through the nonsense. I'm not surprised that you could book guests more than a year out if you wanted to. The whole borrowed myths side of the Bible is something that ought to get talked about more by atheist channels. I get that apologists won't talk about it, as then discussing whether Judas fell and then burst open, or burst open before he fell, all seems unnecessary. How the early church managed to replace older gods/myths with Christianity is an interesting area for discussion and research.

[@ronjohnson4566]

i don't have the words, powerful, deep, makes me want to cry... but thanks. thanks a lot

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thank you Ron, that means a lot to hear that. --Tim

[@edwinf4524]

Thank you, Tim. I can relate 100% to all of what you say. I am German and my deconstruction was very similar. Now at the age 70 I wish I would have run away earlier from what harmed me and my friends. Thanks 🙏

[@someonesomeone25]

It's better being a nihilist than a Christian. I prefer my life now.

[@ShanW-b4g]

This is beautiful, raw and poignant. I so appreciate your approach to telling your story. Thank you for helping us more than you know!!

[@mrbilllollar]

Tim, I just discovered your channel just a few days after publishing my own deconversion story on KZbin. I am 69 years old. I was a thoroughly Reformed (Calvinistic) Southern Baptist church planter, appointed as a missionary with the North American Mission Board, and served five years in Wales as a church planting specialist with a small Reformed evangelical group. I left organized religion in 2009 after five years in Wales and just hit the pause button on everything religious. I took the final step in the past couple of months by coming out as an atheist. I look forward to hearing more of your story. 😊

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thanks for sharing that, Bill! I live 10 mins from the NAMB headquarters. I'll reach out to you via Facebook.

[@mrbilllollar]

@@HarmonicAtheist Sounds great! Look forward to hearing from you. 😀

[@expandingknowledge8269]

Cognitive dissonance is a horrible place to be. But necessary for purging the mind from harmful doctrines of deceit, and deception. "Make no mistake about it. Enlightenment is a destructive process. It has nothing to do with becoming better or being happier. Enlightenment is the crumbling away of untruth. It's seeing through the facade of pretense. It's the complete eradication of everything we imagined to be true." Adyshanti.

[@joycesky5041]

Congrats Tim! You’re doing such a great job and your channel is AWESOME!!! You’ve been such a great influence and a great help to me. If god didn’t want foreskins on male babies then why did he create males with foreskins??? Yeah Tim this rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper as we go along…it seems like there’s no end to it. The genocide, rape, torture, slavery, slaughtering, etc. proves that the Yahweh god is a PSYCHOPATH and that EVIL entity isn’t anyone I would want to be with for eternity. Thanks so much for all your hard work and the time you put into this wonderful channel. Love ya my brother! 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thanks, Joyce!

[@jayschumacher815]

I’ve watched a lot of your more recent vids but just now seeing this. I really appreciate what you do and your ability to refrain from inserting yourself in the interviews you conduct is great.