There are too many glitches in the matrix of Christianity - Paolo Gordon

[@mikenash7049]

One of the things I could never get an answer to was why Satan was constantly speaking to each and every one of us in a way that we could understand (but not know it was him), while God couldn't even manage a simple "I am here".

[@leesanderson6885]

Satan speaks to us?? I've always felt..that this fallen angel..was even able to challenge God..Almighty Alpha and omega. And presently is allowed to rule over the entire human race. Endless suffering permitted.

[@matthewkopp2391]

@@dirtypickle77It is rather striking that you are just as literalist as those you criticize. If the story presents Satan as a temptor, then the allegory is rather easily read. So, in that regard does temptation not exist? Have you ever felt a temptation to eat something bad for your health, smoke, or do a drug. Have you ever been tempted to act out unjustly? It is fine to dismiss the literalism, but why jettison the allegory? I would argue that not only does temptation exist, but there seems to be an intelligent and yet unconscious agent in our own psyches independent of our will. The one who smokes the cigarette even when we tell ourselves no, I am not going to do it. The one who acts out, even though one knows it is unwise or unjust. Perhaps personification of the temptor with red skin and horns etc. is a bit over board. But it seems many are unconscious of an agent within outside of our own will. So perhaps there was utility in the personification. But the logic you are insisting on is something akin to: a picture of a hamburger is not really food, so therefore hamburgers don’t exist. This is idiotic. This is insisting that a symbol is the same thing as what is symbolized, that the signifier is the same as the signified.

[@Randomest_Stories]

😅

[@boxelder9147]

That whole deal with Job is really suspect.

[@heidismutti]

Thank you for this. I think people deconvert when they no longer need god to be okay. Some people never get there. It's a lot of responsibility in having to make one's own meaning in life. Some people will never trust themselves to make their own meaning.

[@heavykoe]

I'd rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned. We have these magnificent minds that others put limits on. It's so important to break free of mental bondage

[@johnjohnson1657]

This was a freegn' Outstanding video today with a great guest. Out freegn' standing.

[@sidstovell2177]

Haha. Well done.

[@tklyte]

That was one of the best interviews you've done, Tim. Paolo is smart, eloquent, and easy on the ears. Thanks, Paolo for your contribution.

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Agreed 110%. Paolo is awesome and I think he's honestly just getting started. I predict his influence in the community will be substantial over time. I love the way he thinks and communicates.

[@tklyte]

@@HarmonicAtheist ​ Anyway we can get a transcript of what he was reading. I thought it was gracefully crafted and impressively bold. Does he have a podcast? He should

[@marcomoreno6748]

​@@HarmonicAtheistHe definitely has a talent for communication.

[@sidstovell2177]

Agreed 100%.

[@letahamilton]

Fascinating. I am an Italian major & lived in Naples for 3 years, Milan for a year, Tuscany & Le Marche. Loving his Italian connection. My dad was a Navy Cha& I remember attending a charismatic Italian church with another of the Chaplains where everyone spoke in tongues. This was in Naples. Growing up in the military chapel setting definitely made me aware from a young age that there were sooooooooooo many beliefs from the Protestant side….that didn’t include the Catholic side or the Mormons…

[@dialecticobserver]

Thank you Dr. Paolo Gordon. The most EXCITING thing is the THIRST FOR KNOWLEDGE!!! It is the most exciting adventure of all . No fear, no guilt. Learn and grow, try to share. You are not alone! Come back again and interview. You have so much inside to share! Ty. Mr. Tim Mills for your channel. Religion (Christianity) is psychological warfare! Not to mention the money people are guilted into "donating." Donating to stay ignorant. What a scam!

[@awakeenlighten2298]

What a great interview. The conditioning and programming of so many different beliefs really does a number on the individual. It's not about trusting, accepting, and believing in yourself, but the exact opposite. Paolo Gordon touched on so many great points. I thank you Tim for the work you are doing with these interviews.

[@biashacker]

Yes Tim, you are doing a great job. I am sure you do not hear that enough.

[@vtalen]

Yes preterism helped bring me out of Christianity it was one of the things I really held to for a while but then went to Israel only full preterism which basically makes all the Bible worthless and then in the end you realize whether I'm understanding it correctly or not everyone is confused and understanding the Bible differently and if God was so powerful and just we wouldn't have such confusion

[@brisadelcastillo2840]

“THE CRUCIFIX FISH TESTIFIES” look it up and see irrefutable proof that the crucifixion occurred, how it happened, and that the resurrection happened. See God’s perpetual memorial to these important events.

[@MartTLS]

Exactly and if god was the creator then why doesn’t everyone believe in him ? According to the bible he should want everyone to believe in his existence but he appears incapable of convincing everyone that he does then punishes all those he can’t convince. It makes no sense.

[@brisadelcastillo2840]

@@A-non-theist The entire crucifixion scene is depicted in the “skull” bone of this fish. Skull is the name of the location where the crucifixion took place. Fish is the symbol of the New Covenant faith. 27 biblical details of the crucifixion can be seen in this small bone that washes ashore from the native waters where these fish live after they die and decompose. They begin doing this around Passover time each year therefore making them a perpetual memorial. Either God made this fish, or evolution did. The answer should be obvious. “Yet God chose the foolish things of the world so He might put to shame the wise; and God chose the weak things of the world so He might put to shame the strong; and God chose the lowly and despised things of the world, the things that are as nothing, so He might bring to nothing the things that are-so that no human might boast before God. 1 Corinthians 1:27-29 bible

[@brisadelcastillo2840]

@@A-non-theist "THE CRUCIFIX FISH TESTIFIES" Look it up

[@brisadelcastillo2840]

@@A-non-theist The crucifix fish does not prove "Christianity", but it does prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the crucifixion happened. Equally as important, it shows how. The Roman cross came from the Constantine era. Also, God's name was removed from the scriptures almost 7,000 times, and the Messiah's name was changed to Jesus. This too was prophesied: But I was like a gentle lamb led to the slaughter; And I did not know that they had devised plots against me, saying, “Let’s destroy the tree with its fruit, And let’s cut him off from the land of the living, So that his name will no longer be remembered.” Jeremiah 11:19 In my research, Christianity is Roman Catholicism, pretty much all of it. But rather than abandon the faith, I would rather study and learn what lies I was taught and reject those. Believers are instructed to endure until the end, because it is only a remnant that will ultimately be saved.

[@joycesky5041]

AWESOME video…I really enjoyed hearing Paolo! He’s so well spoken with lots of insight and very informative. We CAN’T unsee what we have seen no matter if we wanted to and no matter how much we could try. Thanks Paolo & Tim🌹🌹🌹 There’s no such hate like Christian love.

[@cindiballard900]

This was such a great interview!! So well-articulated, Paolo and Tim! And Tim, thanks so much for the frequent content these days. Keep 'em coming. I wish you all the best and really appreciate everything you do. Thanks!

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thanks, Cindi! I really appreciate your support and encouragement. --Tim

[@annemariededekind6271]

I really enjoyed this program. This is exactly my own journey. All the questions.....but now I am free from all the mythical lies and my real life just started a while back. It was difficult at first, but now I feel like a won the lotto. Thank you so much dr Paolo

[@hyp77]

Great conversation between two men who know all the pits Christianity will have you fall into.

[@Jemawin]

This was an absolutely wonderful and satisfying discussion. Thanks, Paulo and Tim.

[@bRAgadino]

great stuff, truly woke me up. thanks.

[@Mr.PeabodyTheSkeptic]

As an ex-catholic in Texas the fundamentalists, pentecostals, evangelicals, etc. were not viewed charitably... to be kind.

[@letsomethingshine]

Let's just say the sentiment likely STARTED the other way around. Just look at the Satanic convention that occurred this year and the Protestants were heckling the Catholics while the Catholics were originally there to sing in ritualistic unison against the free Satanists. Protestants think they are supposed to be physically abusive towards Catholics, like Jesus was to the Temple Jews exchanging the foreign currency so that animal blood sacrifices were only bought with Jewish coin.

[@CharlotteLeviere]

Indeed, anyone who wasn’t a Catholic basically.

[@HidingFromFate]

And I'm sure the feeling was mutual. Many denominations don't think Catholics are really even Christians. As stated many times before, if God was really real I suspect he/she/it would have done a much better job at communicating which specific beliefs and practices he/she/it requires from us. But silence. Nothing but disagreement and confusion.

[@JanineHarris]

Love this one! Thank you Tim & Paolo

[@karlu8553]

One of my favorite guests to appear on your channel! I was also born in 1970, and resonate with so much of his experience. Loved the descriptions of the things that created cognitive dissonance and began to cause glitches in the matrix. So many of the topics discussed here were also relevant to my own deconstruction and eventual deconversion. Please have him back!

[@jaclynrichmond1049]

The myth behind it was also why I walked out. It's been 8 years, and I'm just starting to get so much more info on KZbin to confirm it for me. .

[@johngilchrist9886]

This is the best interview that I have watched on Harmonic Athiest. Dr. Gordon was so prepared and gave so many insights into the subject. I hope to see him on more platforms. He has a lot of important things to say and share.

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Agreed! I was blown away by his story and insights. I deeply appreciated his willingness to speak on this platform.

[@maswinkels]

It's "ATHEIST". Please use spell check when writing is not one of your talents.

[@johngilchrist9886]

@@maswinkels I am not sure how Grammarly let that go through. Sorry, we are not all perfect. Thank you for pointing that out.

[@middlesismonica]

I'm looking forward to Paolo's follow up interview. What a great conversation.

[@derekcrews2781]

Thanks!

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thanks, Derek!!

[@donovanwilliamsroker4734]

Tim, I'm amazed at how many awesomely wonderful stories you have here. Everyone offers much reassuring peace in my walk of deconstruction out of christian insanity. Thanks a million! 🤜🏾💗🤛🏾

[@heatherclark8668]

Whenever I asked one of the leaders a really good question that they didn't like or they didn't know the answer to, they would reply by saying THAT'S NOT A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK. I was also told that, as God is the Potter and I am the clay, he can do whatever he likes and I just have to accept it

[@rolandwatts3218]

Paulo: "And then we had splits in the church. You're not surprised are you Tim?" Tim: Nods his head and laughs. 😄😄😄😄😄😄

[@scofah]

Carpet color 😂!!

[@pinky9440]

Something that shook me was a comment somebody made with regards to "turn the other cheek". He asked, so if somebody rapes your daughter, you should turn the other cheek and say HERE IS MY OTHER DAUGHTER, RAPE HER TOO". That made me realise just how ridiculous that command is.

[@dagg310]

And yet God never turns the other cheek ...he always seeks revenge

[@emilywyatt9340]

​@@dagg310Jesus was an idealist . Nice idea but doesn't work in the real world.

[@jasminemariedarling]

My spiritual life may change, but my love for the movie The Matrix remains the same 😂 Sitting here with my doggies Neo and Trinity, enjoying this episode. Idk what i believe anymore but I'm currently enjoying these videos ❤

[@kevinbalmer-dw2ms]

This one was extra good. Watched it twice 👍

[@Awareverse]

I loved this talk. Have you guys ever heard the concept of the ‘egregore’? It exists in different traditions. It’s the idea that human consciousness can create and then sustain a kind of being. Even as a metaphor, this is powerful. After creating the being/thought structure…etc….and going through upgrades and revisions over time….this being now gain a survival power and wants to remain existing and so will prompt the human consciousness to feed it and sustain it. This idea is an interesting lens, through which, to see a belief structure matrix such as Christianity or any other system that protects itself from scrutiny.

[@marcomoreno6748]

As a collective, distributed intelligent and willful entity? I have done work in machine learning and I have a hunch you are correct, in the most literal sense. Genes are to species what memes are to this "egregore" of yours

[@user-bs9wq1lk4o]

... I know it's fiction but Terry Pratchett wrote about how Gods exist because of the belief of people ...

[@CharlotteLeviere]

Excellent interview Tim, Paolo makes so much sense and has a great knack of verbalising what most have us have encountered too, both the biblical discrepancies and Christian attitude towards our simple search for the truth. Also, I think many christians are too scared to question their beliefs.

[@user-wb2yv7ll9d]

Excellent interview; Paolo is great. ❤

[@_S0me__0ne]

But, but, but, y'all are just misunderstanding those passages! You're taking them out of context! You don't have the eyes, heart, and mind to truly understand and interpret the Bible! 🙄

[@scofah]

I'm pretty sure this is sarcasm. 😅

[@_S0me__0ne]

@@scofah indeed

[@dantallman5345]

Tim, quotation of Enoch in the NT is really interesting. Would love to hear more on this.

[@cybergrail]

Thank you for this fantastic discussion and interview! It’s interesting how just reading the Bible with an open mind will let you see that God has depicted there is a monster.

[@mollizi2131]

What an amazing guest!! Learned so much and love the Matrix theme.

[@vintagegal5616]

Tim, this is the best vlog yet! Paolo was easy to understand. I am very slowly deconstructing, and I need videos like this.😊

[@subcitizen2012]

God damn lol. This one was body shots the whole way through. He's very articulate. Makes me wish I hadn't lost that bit of brain edge with covid, can still keep the eye on the ball but the ball is kinda fuzzy now haha. At this point I've been an atheist a relatively long time, more than half my life at just over 20 years. Have seen a lot and studied a lot with regard to religion and Christianity, atheism itself. I used to be a lot angrier, which has cooled to some degree - we aren't exactly living in witch burning and inquisition times right now - but we still face incredible challenges because of the intertwined nature of religion and politics. It's clear when you look at the bible, for the subject of LGBTQ, that it was that way back then, but for the life of me I don't understand why people today need to equate entry to heaven with entry to church, and go even further and want barred entry from society. So in a way it's as if we are still living in an extension of the iron age, they this is just how people think, how they are lead to believe, and maybe even to some degree taps raw into the wellspring of the potential for human wickedness, or whatever it could be called. I've felt very demoralized for years, like they are winning the proverbial battles and wars by default, everytime a Christian couple has a child born, they basically hit the ground with a bible in their hands, where as exiting that life and worldview requires dedicated cultivation. In my journey, sort of like you mentioned about the nucleus of these stories being true somewhere somehow, but they've been embellished and plastered over, I think the true histories and the intentions and ideas of the religion are quite beautiful and sentimental. It's ironic, but after enough philosophy, it's almost like I consider atheists the true Christians today, like they have somehow carried forward the true messages and intentions of the bible and the religion. The myth gutted itself for us, dead in our arms, and all that's left is the memory of what was false, and the parts that were true without it. Atheism, agnosticism, whatever else it could be called, is its own advent in history, a sort of inverted religion, where truth can actually be found, and the darkness of the eras not that long ago can finally be illuminated. Anyway, thanks again for all you're doing Tim. It's inspiring to see fresh sets of eyes and hearts covering all the same ground and finding new ways to communicate it all.

[@MrsBridgette2012]

Yes exactly what I was told when I asked questions,”You need a beware of questioning God’s word”. It took me decades before I finally walk away from organized religion.

[@jayschumacher815]

Great guest. I find the interviews where the contradictions are set up one after the other, rapid fire, to be the most thought provoking while also making it so obvious that none of this adds up.

[@kellishafron5920]

My favorite interview so far!!

[@Joyce-dr3dv]

I 😊 enjoyed this interview from beginning to end thank you so much for everything ❤

[@user-sh9in4md7x]

This interview was absolutely wonderful! I’m learning something new every time I listen to your guests. Thanks Tim!

[@belkyhernandez8281]

I am glad people like the 2 of you are trying to help people through the process.

[@doraduplessis2727]

I just wish I could have your talk in writing to read it later and highlight the things that touched me the most. Thank you, for a wonderful talk.

[@scofah]

Login to KZbin on your computer and look at the transcript.

[@Larry30102]

@@scofah I’ll definitely be doing this.

[@hollykirby8542]

Glad this popped up on Roku. I am in the midst of deconverting, still attending church but challenging individuals. So far ok. Our grown daughter acts like we’ve abused her & now I understand. We have! You are right, biggest con in our known history. Lots of work to do here. Thanks to both of you.This has been truly insightful for me. Great to read what you prepared, Paolo. So helpful!!!

[@dantallman5345]

Great interview guys. Can relate to so much of what you discussed.

[@Zaza-eq4ss]

What beautiful and profound words Paolo ended with. Thank you both for this interview.

[@bradleytaylor6512]

Amazing interview and back and forth, thank you!!!

[@leesanderson6885]

Love the wizard of Oz analogy. This is so much to believe snd accept. Huge to disbelieve. Im a soul survivor of my family..my only spiritual family ..my two spiritual sisters..devout christians.

[@totonow6955]

Thank you to the guest for being a person that speaks about the right wing violence endangering us all.

[@bansheesioux5569]

Most of that is news propaganda. It's not really Happening. I'm not siding with one side or the other. Govt/news/propaganda goes both ways. There's no actual sides.

[@sidstovell2177]

One of the very best, Tim. Thank you. Best wishes to Dr Gordon. Great lesson!!

[@NYKim_NY]

I love that you're bringing up astrogeology, it's very interesting and has definitely been instrumental in my journey. ❤

[@tony8570]

A church told me i had to be 'one of them' to receive blessings. Im blessed without that kind of authority

[@ScottBub]

Really good interview.

[@scofah]

Tim! So great! Thank you!

[@Larry30102]

The majority of this interview was powerful and informative. Tim, you have mentioned off and on about the numerarical things you’ve learned. I’ve found you insight fascinating. In this vid you discussed it for probably the longest that you have. I was appreciative of that. Paolo’s reading of what I’d probably call an essay at about the 1:30:00 mark left me with many emotions. Overall, I’d say every word rang true in my heart and mind. I could ramble for many paragraphs, but I’ll just leave it there. A message every American should hear. Huge thanks to both.

[@jeffwatkins352]

I like the Matrix simile. But knowing both of you first saw it when you were in early youth makes me feel so OLD! Even so, this is another wonderful interview! You're showing me a world I guess I knew existed but never had any idea what it was like.

[@lewhellickson3130]

Always good presentations...

[@KELLY-maybeWeCudBeGirlfriends]

AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME VIDEO!!!!!! VERY INTERESTING!!! WOW!!!!

[@jonathank.2854]

this is great work tim. thank you!

[@lisathrasher540]

Great interview, perfect description " The Matrix"

[@RichLunaMusic]

Morgue Official covers a lot of these same readings on their channel. A lot of people don't like this information but I'm glad to see it out there.

[@jeffsevy6812]

Very well done. Thanks.

[@richuncle9689]

Best video I've seen. Good biblical points brought up. Feel sorry for him though. Cant imagine what growing up in that house must have been like

[@JamesRichardWiley]

It is remarkable to me how the theologians of the early church could not see the glaring contradictions in their beloved dogma and the hundreds that blindly copied and promoted their unproven claims over the centuries. It all took place before the Age of Reason (1800) when Thomas Paine and other thinking individuals began to openly discuss the numerous contradictions in the sacred narratives and risked upsetting a theistic society not ready to think on their own.

[@cryptocurlss8460]

I really like this interview with Paolo, I like that he listed the contradictions he saw. I saw the exact same discrepancies and many more, he’s well spoken and got his thoughts out very clearly😊 I was also a hardcore Republican like him so involved in Christian conservative politics I got invited to the White House during trumps presidency. Imagine my horror when I realized the Christian god murders children🙄the whole trump movement was quite racist and divisive im so glad I left

[@sidstovell2177]

Whew!!! Best wishes.

[@GonzalesLanguages]

Thanks for this interview. It got me out of the Southern Baptist bubble.

[@Clambo226]

Intangible things cannot produce tangible answers. Trying to make those two things coincide is a mad man’s game.

[@JBiggsofWSNC]

Well done Gordon.

[@BrennahAdrianna]

Great video ❤

[@biashacker]

These videos although I am an atheist now really help you understand why people have certain world views on race, political ideology, social structures etc...,. In this regard it also helps you understand where certain ways of thinking come from and why they endure even though you may have de-converted long ago.

[@digitaldynasty9618]

Imagine tying physical locations into the stories you have a layered rubix cube of religion

[@calldwnthesky6495]

great stuff

[@leegionxavier]

🐨For approximately six years I have been a Atheist and as I listen to those of us in this community I am shocked to see that I abandoned my faith differs from the testimony of the majority and a lot of well educated men & women don't seem understand the difference between traditional teaching from biblical.😳 For example: There is no teaching in the bible of god sending two bears to kill fourty children. They were all adult males who have yet to be made head of a household and or not married, so the term used for those type ofmen in that culture has been translated in English as "little children", but in reality they were grown men in the attempt to assault Elijah (possibly to beat that elderly man to death). Again, I view all of the world's religions as camp fire stories shared by other cultures and transformed through time.🐨

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

Nevermind the glitches in Christianity, it's the contradictions you should focus on

[@narapetrovic74]

Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear. -- Thomas Jefferson

[@clineezwood7942]

What he said. 👍🏽

[@garyballard3484]

Excellent video! You hit so many nails on their heads haha, my sister and brother-in-law are hardcore born again holy rollers. And extremely right wing of course, they don't care about the environment because Jesus is coming back to save everything any minute anyway, I pointed out to them that people have been saying that for 2000 years and that this planet will not last another 200, much less 2000 the way things are going and they just say that I'm influenced by Satan, the devil has blinded me to the truth, he has made me hate Jesus hahaha, I really shouldn't laugh because it's sad and scary more than funny.

[@digitaldynasty9618]

When you think about it if the stories are actually Astro theology than one can say that it's the word of God it's just the way it's expressed and understood that has us all confused!

[@teddrickmilsap-sd7ie]

I'm so glad you lost your religion. Imagining people on fire all the time will make you insane. Also the saying (on fire for christ) is a remnant of christian mental illness. A mind that would set someone on fire for an reason is a mind so disturbed that it wouldn't allow not one soul to be eternally happy for any reason. You CANNOT please a sadistic monster no matter how hard you try.

[@cybergrail]

Does Paolo have any books, a website, or other location where we can hear more from him?

[@HarmonicAtheist]

I don't believe so, at the moment, but he'll be returning for a second interview later this year.

[@vintagegal5616]

First thing that came into my mind, especially that passage on Leviticus 26, was what about free will? Nobody in the OT had it.

[@tinameyer7080]

Ummmm....Adam and Eve CHOSE (by their free will) to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.....

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

​@@tinameyer7080 if god can tell the future there can be no free will. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[@tinameyer7080]

@TangerineTangerine NO bubble burst here. Just because God can see the end from the beginning does not mean that individuals do not have free will. God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent . Your conceptualization assumes there are a limited number of players in the game and that any ONE person or group of persons is necessary to reach a pre-determined outcome and that the players did not (by their free will) write their script prior to entering the game. Have a great day!

[@tinameyer7080]

@digbycrankshaft7572 I disagree. Even prior to eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil- clearly God gave an in depth explanation of His instruction- AND the ramifications of not following the instruction. They knew, for example, if they ate of the fruit, they would surely DIE. The choice was, therefore, made of their own free will. NOT because disobeying God was "wrong"- but because there were CONSEQUENCES that they DID know about, and made the choice anyway 😀

[@leesanderson6885]

I coukd never sccept how this fallen sngel .was able to challenge Almighty God .Alpha snd Omega. And to this day .us permitted to rule iver the earth and bring such suffering for hiw long? The fallen sngel has equal power to its creator. And afyer the thiusand tears he will be abyssed. He is released again. Game of thrones story. My spiritual discernment has always rejected these teachings. Its horrific the level of suffering. Yet to reject all of this is to suddenly remove all explanation for this anazing beautiful life as challenging as it is. Now I know for sure ..I already knew. My beautiful family are not burning in hell. But, I already knew that. Ex JW ehich has been such a curse in my family. Soul survivor.

[@NancyJSimpson]

Fantastic interview. Question ---> What would you, or anyone reading this, do if Bible God is true in all his evil glory? This sadistic lunatic really is god. What would we do? It's judgment day and we can feel the heat of hell and maniacal Bible God say, "Tim, you blasphemous worm I am going to give you one last chance. Bow, down and worship me." What would you do? What would I do? I know Christians who tell me they don't care what Bible God did in the OT -- he is god. Might makes right. It's like evil in all its permutations is okay with them as long as their god does it. Sheeze.

[@justinporter458]

Like Jezebel was thrown out the window, I threw Jehovah out the window to the Gogs of Magog. Justin Porter ex jw ❤️

[@dancancro5524]

Contradictions "If Yahweh is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33) and the Bible is the inerrant word of Yahweh (2 Peter 1:19-21, 2 Timothy 3:16) and if oral tradition was so high-fidelity in ancient times, why are there so many contradictions? Which version of the Bible is inerrant? Did Jesus descend from David through Joseph (Matthew 1:1), or was he born of a virgin mother (Matthew 1:18)? Was Joseph's father Jacom (Matthew 1:2) or Heli (Luke 3:23)? Can you see Yahweh's face (Genesis 32:30), or not (Exodus 33:20)? Was Abiathar (Mark 2:26) or Ahimelech (1 Samuel 21) the high priest when David and his men ate the showbread from the tabernacle in Nob? Did Mary and Joseph flee to Egypt (Matthew 2:1-23), or return to Nazareth (Luke 2:1-40)? Did Jesus die the day before the Passover (John 19:31) or the day after the Passover (Mark 14:12)? Was Mary Magdalene informed of the resurrection by an angel (Matthew 28:5) or by Jesus (John 20:14)? Did Satan incite David to conduct a census (1 Chronicles 21:1), or did Yahweh (2 Samuel 24:1)? Was Jehoiachin eighteen (2 Kings 24:8) or eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) when he became king? Was Ahaziah twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) or forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) when he began to reign? Did Jesus clear the temple at the beginning (John 2:13-22) or the end (Mark 15:11-19) of his ministry? Did Paul's companions hear the voice (Acts 9:7) during Paul's conversion experience or not (Acts 22:9)? Can witnesses be convinced by a risen Lazarus (John 11:38-44), or not (Luke 16:19-31)? Did Gyrus's daughter die before (Matthew 9:18) or after (Mark 5:23) Gyrus asked Jesus for help? Was the paralytic man in a house with a roof of mud and branches (Mark 2:4), or tile (Luke 5:19)? Did Judas hang himself (Matthew 27:5), or did his intestines explode (Acts 1:18)? Did Judas give the money back (Matthew 27:3), or did he buy a field (Acts 1:18)? Is it forbidden to drink blood (Leviticus 17:14), or mandated (John 6:53)? On the day he died was Jesus in Paradise (Luke 23:43) or Hell (Matthew 12:40)? Was Jesus in Hell for 3 nights (Matthew 12:40), or 2 nights (Matthew 27:45-50, Matthew 28:1)? Was the stone rolled away before (John 20:1) or after (Matthew 28:1-2) the women arrived at the tomb? Did the sun rise before (Mark 16:2) or after (John 20:1) the women arrived at the tomb? Did Nicodemus provide the spices (John 19:39), or did the women (Mark 16:1, Luke 23:56)? Did Jesus appear to eleven disciples (1 Corinthians 15:5 Latin Vulgate), or twelve disciples (1 Corinthians 15:5 English NRSV)? Was Jesus taken up to Heaven on the day he met the disciples (Luke 24:51), or did he spend 40 days with the disciples, and then go to Heaven (Acts 1:3-10)? Did Jesus tell the disciples to bring a staff (Mark 6:8), or not bring a staff (Luke 9:3)? Did Jesus come for the Gentiles too (Romans 15:16), or just the Jews (Matthew 10:5-6, Matthew 15:24-26)? Do you get into Heaven based on your deeds (Matthew 16:27, James 2:17), or your blind faith (Ephesians 2:8, Galatians 2:16)? Is everyone who calls on the lord saved (Acts 2:21) or not (Matthew 7:21)? Do you consider the contradictions in holy books of other religions to be good arguments against their claims of divine authority? For example, in Surah 1:1 of the Qur'an, Allah is called most merciful. In Surah 24:2 Allah says to not let pity keep you from whipping people. Do you find this contradiction a good argument against the divine inerrancy of the Qur'an? If the original manuscripts of the Bible were accurate but errors crept into copies, why did Yahweh let that happen?" www.stopindoctrination.org/#contradictions Divine Inspiration & Biblical Inerrancy: The Failed Hypothesis The Bible Skeptic kzbin.info/www/bejne/faHaXoeJmZhpopo Misquoting Jesus in the Bible - Professor Bart D. Ehrman - Contradictions Bart Ehrman kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppfLloZ3mKimqKc Quiz Show (Bible Contradictions) NonStampCollector kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHOWmGmjjbF4gc0 Are the Gospels Historically Reliable? The Problem of Contradictions Bart D. Ehrman kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6rQn3RrZ5udb7c Top Ten False Prophecies Spoken By Jesus Christ ( Deuteronomy 18:22 ) Freethinkers Books kzbin.info/www/bejne/enjQqniZedSWaa8 What do Christians say about Psalm 137:9 Blessings for bashing baby brains? Freethinkers Books kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH-9c4GsqtmLbKc Sharing permitted. Click the first link for more.

[@Fritz999]

It just ain't making any sense at all. Nor do other religions.

[@shriggs55]

You said that you've found more than a hundred quotes from Enoch in the new testament,I tried to google that but could not find anything.Do you have any advice on where to find that information? I'd appreciate that. Good video,by the way.

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Hi, I am finalizing a presentation on it that I'm aiming to present in July/Aug. For now, you could look up the appendix in the book "Reversing Hermon" as well as websites like this (I can't vouch for its accuracy) - alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/Book%20of%20Enoch%20NT%20Verses.htm There are more than are listed in those resources, but those might provide a starting point. You might be interested to just read through Enoch as well: parallel.thebookofenoch.info/ bookofenochreferences.wordpress.com/category/the-book-of-enoch-with-biblical-references-chapters-1-to-9/chapter-1/ Again, there is a LOT more of Enoch woven into the NT than these lists provide. But this will give a good starting point.

[@user-bs9wq1lk4o]

There are approximately 4,106,717 words in the Bible - - "Using a standard font, the average bible has around 1,200 pages. the OED - The dictionary's latest, complete print edition (second edition, 1989) was printed in 20 volumes, comprising 291,500 entries in 21,730 pages. my point is the OED is merely a list of words , the Bible - "as thick as “The Lord of the Rings” and similar fantasy novel epics , contains history and philosophy, and can be used for spiritual guidance" ... how can a book that you can carry in one hand have so much in it when a not yet complete and up to date record of all the words in english (one language) is 18 times the size ? .... perhaps if you read the OED you will learn more ... 🧐

[@WeAreBlessed777]

Uhh...yea.... You guys let me know how that works out for you during the Day of Judgement, and no I don't identify as a Christian. "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55: 8-9

[@zach4968]

You aren't a Christian but you quote the bible? Please explain why we should put any stock in what that fictional book says

[@WeAreBlessed777]

@@zach4968I am just a servant of Yahweh; I'm not here to debate, because I have had supernatural proof that He is real, so there is nothing that man can say that will convince me otherwise. I pray that He reveals Himself to all of those who do not believe. You all have a blessed day. I have nothing further to say

[@anabelrubianes8992]

Well, please explain what will happen to them. Who will judge them? Based on what morality? I'd like to know what gives your the certainty that we will be judged.

[@WeAreBlessed777]

@@anabelrubianes8992 I am not permitted to judge the heart, that's why I said "let me know how that turns out for you.." stay blessed.🙏🏿❤️ "There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?" James 4:12

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

​@@zach4968 he's one of those christians who deny they are christians but instead call themselves followers of christ. Which is exactly the same thing. I think of it as an annoying american trend.

[@nicholascapece]

Ive listen to a bunch of these episodes and the through-line is fundamentalism. I think Tim at the end when you were summarizing you were hitting on some very good points. Most of the stories in the Bible are embellished well they never happened. There was no evidence for the Exodus Jericho who knows and I'm pretty sure that 42 kids were killed by those two bears never happened. My suggestion is to read Karl Barth an kiekegard and for crying out loud dont EVER listen to an American Evangelical!! And i am an American but only cuz I can't figure out a way to get out of this crazy country

[@SophiaTheSophist]

whoa wait a min!!!!! i know this guy!!!!!!! we grew up together in italy!!!!!!!! dude get in touch with me! our families were missionaries together. this is not my real name, obv! omg!!!! i'm an atheist too now. if anyone can help put us in touch please help. haven't seen him since i was 14? 15? my first name is mandy/amanda... he should know who i am. this is so insane. i'm speechless.

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thanks, Mandy! I let him know. Feel free as well to add me on FB and let me know if you'd care to do your own interview sometime! facebook.com/harmonictim

[@herewegokids7]

Oh dear Piedmont lol

[@voxpopuli348]

Willful ignorance. Cognitive Dissonance. They won't read, research, or ask questions. Many want to believe in a Heaven.

[@dwightchenoweth4033]

To understand the interworkings of clown world, youtube, Call Me Kinfolk. The Ice Spice Gematria Breakdown. Then will understand the mockery.