Christians React to BEHEMOTH Messe Noire

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[@aaronstephen6952]

Yes Vin, it's entirely possible to be educated in the bible and not believe/like it. I was raised in a Christian home, my parents were pastors. I went to Boston College (a catholic university) where I studied Theology to supplement my degree in history. I make it a point to read the bible cover to cover, as well as pseudopigraphical texts a couple times a year, and after all that I'm still a satanist. There have been many studies that conclude that atheists/agnostics are the most educated on the subject of religion, Jews are second, Christians are last. There is an old adage atheists use, "when you have the bible read to you, you become a Christian. When you read it yourself you become and atheist" haha

[@francokills]

Aaron Stephen amen 🙏🏼

[@VanJR.]

Aaron Stephen reading it myself, not an atheist haha

[@Kataxu]

That old adage has some major truth in it, but not for the reason you think it does.

[@aaronstephen6952]

@@Kataxu you can't just make a comment like that and not finish it.

[@sheepnoisebah]

@@Kataxu i'm guessing you think people can't interpret the bible correctly by themselves?

[@berizont]

bathuska, darkthrone and behemoth reactions in 24 hours (i guess), great. keep up the work on the noire side of music guys!

[@themetalkid9864]

Plus Slipknot

[@berizont]

Nergal IsMurder yeah..well..and them too

[@themetalkid9864]

@ourworlds atwar thats your opiniom

[@SimonH109]

@@themetalkid9864 Batushka, Behemoth, Darkthrone....Slipknot One of these bands is not like the others

[@ashenone6166]

@@themetalkid9864 slipknot aint close to black metal

[@samwojdowski1965]

Behemoth is from Poland and all that analysis you make is a common knowledge here, since we are forced in primary school to learn religion. Every kid in school knows "Skład Apostolski" (Apostles' Creed) and can recite it at any moment. We know Bible very well, we know history of religion very well, we must to, we are forced to. I can see a lot of references to religion in Poland in Behemots art that can be hard to understand for other people, but for us is just a common knowledge. Nergals voice is a rebelious voice that is needed in such indoctrinated by catholism country like Poland.

[@MLCrow]

Forced? I''m sorry for you.

[@erikhenriksen7583]

Why did the chicken cross the road? To listen to Swallow the Sun - Cathedral Walls

[@kevinkuypers]

Yes.

[@FearscapeFilms]

So good.

[@vhpigfeet]

Can’t believe you haven’t done ov fire and the void yet by them

[@Buffalodan66]

I'm a Behemoth fan & you guys are NOT idiots! Keep up the fire.

[@emmurewashburn]

This is why Behemoth will always be my favorite band. Adam is a genius with his writing and playing..hes a hell of a guitarist too.You guys be careful on the road and enjoy yourselves! Behemoth are one of the best live bands ever and All the guys are so nice and down to earth.

[@jl3977]

Portal - Curtain Imperial Triumphant - Swarming Opulence Carcass - Heartwork

[@marvinwill3155]

Septicflesh Portrait of a Headless Man, Martyr or Vampire from Nazareth

[@s41nt]

A lot of Behemoth lyrics were written by Krzysztof Azarewicz, not by Nergal, including 'Messe Noire'.

[@juneytoolooney2165]

I love Europeans for having all those letters to spell "Christoph"

[@sofusgud4070]

@@juneytoolooney2165 krzysztof Christoph Both 9 letters

[@juneytoolooney2165]

@@sofusgud4070 but did u really need the 2nd "z" tho N stay away from the state that thinks I'm not joking

[@sofusgud4070]

@@juneytoolooney2165 what

[@juneytoolooney2165]

@@sofusgud4070 oh

[@ihebkhalfa9326]

Cradle of filth - from the cradle to enslave

[@mikey_noir]

love playing guitar such a beautiful song

[@feitan5474]

The devils blood - She ( the guy who did the waters of ain solo)

[@Kajtek666]

Morbid Angel - God of Emptiness!!!

[@LionMetalMusic-videochannel]

Sepultura - Desperate Cry - - - - !!!!!

[@ArdensSedVirens1]

It'd be really cool if you revisited Rotting Christ sometime. They were one of the early Greek black metal bands and the Hellenic sound has it's own distinct, warm feeling compared to the colder atmosphere of Scandinavian black metal, and has significant traditional metal influences. Rotting Christ - Exiled Archangels Rotting Christ - Non Serviam

[@seanegglesden5702]

Whoa! First Darkthrone now Behemoth, 🤘🏻🔥Awesome review and discussion as always... However please may I ask you two to review more AMON AMARTH it has been far too long now since your last reaction: Father of the Wolf, Death in Fire, One Thousand Burning Arrows, Blood Eagle, Thousand Years of Oppression, Under the Northern Star, On Northern Shores, The Pursuit of Vikings, Raise Your Horns. 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@alexalex-om9ic]

pray tolord satan.

[@ayeewtasko2601]

Opeth - Demon of the Fall!!

[@benbaer3525]

Live at Red Rocks

[@zcaze8264]

Bloodbath - Eaten

[@Wyatt-sh4qz]

Woods of Ypres ~ Adora Vivo's, Allure of the Earth, Buried in Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, Silver, Shards of Love. I think you guys would like Woods of Ypres. They have some Black Metal songs. But the ones i listed are their softer, more Doom and Hard Rock songs

[@DeaDBodYDecoY]

Woods of Ypres was just starting to, and this is not to say their work before didn't...but, imo just finding the way to show us all that the tip of the iceberg was many leagues deep as you went below the surface. David Gold, in my house, is mourned.

[@Wyatt-sh4qz]

@@DeaDBodYDecoY they are great

[@aamermahmoud5666]

kriegsmaschine (mgła side project) - none shall see redemption deathspell omega - abscission

[@d.sherman8563]

First of all, I apreciate your video's. From my own experience I can say deconversion does not have to come out of any personal hurt or disappointment. For me it was a growing recognision of the difference in things I said and thought I believed, and what I actually believed . This growing realisation of cognitive dissonance is what, after a long period of struggling with it, lead me to eventually stop believing. After tackling many area's of cognitive dissonance I struggled with and abandoning them one by one. What I was left with was the humanistic values present in some parts of the bible which I still value to this day. What I in the end valued most had nothing to do with a higher power but how we as people treat eachother.

[@Frogemoth]

Wait, what? Are you going to see Behemoth???

[@Frogemoth]

Dark Funeral - My Funeral

[@ayeewtasko2601]

Satyricon - The Pentagram Burns!!

[@zockor]

EPICA - Kingdom of Heaven (Live video)

[@waterblonk]

Eternal Tears Of Sorrow- Angelheart, Ravenheart Act I

[@squashedeyeball]

Have fun but be careful on the show sorvins. I mean, with people moving/moshing, pretty dangerous in this state. So the front rows might be a place to stay away from. In the back it's usually more clam. So it's the safest place for sori. But you have vin to serve a shield, sori, so it will be fine.

[@DurkhastAsthar]

If you're going to a Behemoth concert, you have to listen to "Conquer All". I also recommend you check out "Daimonos" such an awesome opening song, also "Ecclesia Diabolica Catholica" and "Rom 5:8" are my favorites from the new album.

[@zero-cee]

i just saw behemoth last friday, it was THE BEST NIGHT OF MY LIFE..... i do hope yall have fun. anyways, i really really enjoy (and appreciate) how DEEP you two get into the lyrics. i dig into the music itself but then watching yall break down the lyrics makes the song feel and sound different to me when i listen to it again. thanks for being so cool and please take care of yourselves!!

[@ComradeGustaf]

You guys were at the boston show?! So was i! Whats even cooler is that Nergal knows about youre channel and at the show even mentioned how he respects you two and how you all can have a respectful conversation with differencing opinions.

[@robert8942]

Behemoth - amen

[@MrHabybaby]

A Behemoth show is an amazing experience more than anything else, nothing to be nervous about, enjoy!

[@markblaauw4961]

Wow! You're early. Didn't expect that after a long night of 'de- corpspainting'. And than Behemoth

[@kittenblossom2794]

Kudos to you for tackling this and dissecting the lyrics. Light will always dispel the darkness! Solid musicianship.

[@KleaverOfficial]

Love your videos, guys. I don't agree but as an ex-evangelical Christian (now agnostic atheist) it's interesting to hear your perspective. Give the band Atheist a listen! Anything off their 2nd album.

[@davidmachado11]

Moonspell - Night Eternal

[@PaganMusePagan]

Another awesome review! Love watching your vids. I can personally relate to what you were saying about people having something bad happen and then questioning god, because it's who he took from us and how it was done that forced myself away from him and it is also where Behemoth have come in and given me something else to believe in. I will forever be with the adversary but enough about me, keep up the awesome work and can't wait for more vids

[@Roger-le1bv]

3:46 the face of Sori realizing she is going to this live...

[@zombie8068]

Dark funeral - my funeral. Its a great video.

[@fallencomrade7759]

Cro Mags-World Peace Refused-New Noise

[@alluvial.3206]

My favorite tracks from BEHEMOTH are much older than most people request: Behemoth - Horns Ov Baphometh

[@alexanorviii9061]

Behemoth actually have another song that is like a reversed pray. It's Havohej Pantocrator fro their latest album I Loved You at Your Darkest

[@nickleback960]

Excellent song

[@BoneMachine28]

MY DYING BRIDE "The Cry of Mankind" "She is the Dark", "My Hope, the Destroyer" "The Sexuality of Bereavement" "Your Shameful Heaven", "Your River"

[@scottjohnson7803]

Power Trip - Soul Sacrifice Power Trip - Crucifixation

[@sopwithsnoopy8779]

Packing up on the way to Bahstan? :p live Kamelot - The Haunting dvd version w/Simone Simons of Epica studio Kamelot - March Of Mephisto, or Memento Mori

[@Ullish1989]

I remember by 7yrs old growing up in a Catholic school already having memorised the Apostles Creed. I think growing up specifically Catholic like he did in Poland, gives you a very good insight and understanding as to where he's coming from. In fact every mention of being seated at the left hand of Satan etc; reminds me of learning to write (I'm left handed) and my Catholic teacher hitting my knuckles every time I tried to use my left hand. Getting detention and having to recite the Apostles Creed, the Stations of the Cross, kneel for 45 minutes during lunch time on the hard wood kneeling benches in the Catholic church attached to our school. On top of all that I was constantly told I was choosing to allow Satan through me and being evil etc. This was all ages 5-10 but also in the mid 90s where corporal punishment was banned in Australia but it happened anyway We also learned almost immediately, 5 years old about the gore of the crucifixion in extreme detail I understand when people come from that kind of Catholic upbringing easily produces a rebellion towards Christianity and we know Poland is quite extreme with the church having a very heavy hand in government.

[@k0bra3eak40]

Bolt Thrower - When Cannons Fade

[@ControllerOfMinds]

A good song, intelligent lyrics. Pleading for: Sabaton "Resist And Bite", Melechesh "Multiple Truths", Dark Tranquility "ThereIn"

[@Tegardener666]

Melechesh and DT are great suggestions

[@mixinmasta]

Nice, glad you guys are seeing behemoth in boston! Im gonna see em saturday in NYC!!!

[@francokills]

Great breakdown again guys! Btw, I do get Behemoth’s references since I grew up Catholic, went to catholic schools up to high school. So I know all the prayers and biblical references. Fucking beautiful to say the least.

[@dpjb78]

I’m french I can help your pronounciation : messe exactly pronounce like English word mess. A little of history of English would allow you to understand that many English words are originating in Old French. When they were add to English, the French words were almost all cut from their last « e ». I also remark that American people always pronounce the final « e » with it’s alphabetical sound instead muting it. Britannic people mute it maybe because they live closer to French people. :) However, on the meaning you are right : it means Black mess.

[@ashenone6166]

Carach angren - the funerary dirge of a violinist

[@spudpotat24]

I love you twos reviews of behemoth. I got to see them in Phoenix 2 weeks ago, they were amazing. Have a great time tonight. Love you guys.

[@Abuh161]

Gaoler means jailer. Which works well in contrast with the word "judge" mentioned in the Nicene Creed. So gaoler would work just as well as beguiler I think.

[@stevepadla4591]

Congrats on the shout out last night. I heard him mention you guys were up front. That was quite the set in Boston!

[@notcreativeside]

I'm a couple days late so you probably won't see this, but Adam Nergal Darski does have an autobiography, "Confessions of a Heretic" from a few years ago.

[@jproffitt2192]

You guys should check out Windir - Journey to the End, Ending, or Arntor Ein Windir

[@michaelrichards2524]

SCAR Symmetry - The ILLUSIONIST

[@Galacticat_]

Persefone - Inner Fullness

[@StuTheSoftwareAnalyst]

MAKE SURE you get there for the opener, Wolves in The Throne Room. Been asking for them for ages. Maybe that will put you on to them!

[@EyesOfGehenna]

I was born and raised in a Christian faith and when I realized I no longer believed any of it, it was not because I wanted to lose my faith, but I had to. I couldn't keep telling myself the lies and the inconsistencies that came with it. When you are born and raised with it and you are a person who can go deep then it is a huge deal to break away from that and it can take years even decades. I also wrote a song when I was in a band called "Heaven's Coming Down" that was about my personal break with god and the enormous work it took to free myself from the shackles of a childhood of indoctrination and fear of the dark. I had to learn to love the dark to come at peace with myself. But it really can be a huge thing and it can feel like you need to stand up and face this god that hovered over your life like judge and executioner like the sword of Damocles. That may sound very over the top perhaps but that's how it felt to me as well. So no, I do not believe in the existence of a god, particularly the Abrahamic one, but he was a huge part of the first 25 years of my life. The saying you can take the child out of the war but you can't take the war out of the child rings very true for me in that sense. I could take myself out of religion but it was very very hard to take the religion out of me, even after I realized it wasn't something I couldn't believe in or stand for any longer. So my song "Heaven's Coming Down" starts with the line: A single soul stronger than fate, bringing down heaven's gate. It's because breaking with religion when you grew up in it and were deep into it, is massive. It's like you're changing the fate and defying a god to stand of for yourself. To no longer be usurped by this invisible force that is watching you wherever you go. It's massive to do this when you were born into it and were into it deeply. So please Vin, understand it can really be like that when you stop believing. It's a terrible thing to have to do and it does feel like you have to stand up to god as if he was real because that's the only way to deal with the trauma and move on. I believed passionately growing up and learning that it wasn't right was like losing my life. It was a traumatic loss and it comes with anger but also pain and sadness. And it can really run deep. It's why I think music like this can be so powerful.

[@ManyLegions88]

I appreciate your opinion. There's many things I don't understand. And many things I have been through mentally that has made me feel very rejected. And at times even threatened. I will never be a christian. And although I relate to the aspect of pain that flows through behemoth as a band. I will never be a satanist either. To be a seeker within my own mind and to continue to seek condemns me to hell. According to scripture. And to embrace my bravery and who I truly am has not brought peace into my life. But I will continue to seek peace until the end.

[@ianh6845]

You guys are going to have so much fun!!! I'm going to see them in Michigan on November 7th. Fucking excited!!! \,,/ \,,/

[@magnuseklund9090]

Here's something you should sink your teeths into. 👍😁 THE best extreme metal band around. Dödheimsgard - Aphelion Void or Dödheimsgard - Architect of Darkness

[@W0RK1]

God Protocol Axiom

[@alexward9]

Behemoth "Ov Fire and the Void" The Electric Hellfire Club "I Dream of Demons" Cradle of Filth "The Rape and Ruin of Angels (Hosannas in Extremis)" "The Byronic Man" Wolfpack 44 "The Black March" Old Man's Child "Phantoms of Mortem Tales"

[@BoneMachine28]

PARADISE LOST "Embers Fire" "Christendom", "No Hope In Sight" "The Longest Winter", "Gothic" "Shattered", "Mortals Watch the Day", "As I Die"

[@MegaZiod]

LINDEMANN - Praise Abort

[@madizm7357]

Did you see them at the House of Blues?? Great show!! At the Gates and Wolves in the Throneroom were awesome too

[@SimonH109]

So Nergal is saying the Christians probably understand Behemoth lyrics better than Behemoth fans and the Christians are saying Behemoth probably know more Bible than most Christians. What a world we live in

[@Patrixxist]

Amestigon - 358 is my tip. Btw, Batushka makes fun of liturgy too, just more smoothly than Behemoth. Their style is mocks the ortodox church, while Behemoth doesn't base itself on one religion but many ideologies, both religious and occult.

[@proboz]

Nice! Gonna see them again next weekend. You're gonna love the show, especially Ecclesia Catholica Diabolica performed live.

[@jeremybishop1623]

The Funerary Dirge of the Violinist by Carach Angren is really good if you guys have time to check it out. The lyricism is off the charts amazing.

[@khellendross3573]

Behemoth should be a fun show. I don't think Sori has anything to worry about really. I have yet to go to a metal show where people weren't cool. Black metal or otherwise. Also, don't sleep on those two opening acts. This is a fantastic lineup. Wolves in the Throne Room is amazing and At the Gates are melodeath legends.

[@_only_one_god_1]

This song is so good 🤣🤣🤣🤣🎶🎶🎶🎶🎼 I swear I know they have to be dying to headbang

[@wawawawawiwa]

Woods of Ypres - Lightning & Snow Woods of Ypres - Adora Vivos

[@Blutroth]

Funeral Mist - Anathema Maranatha

[@W0RK1]

Jesus Saves will serve better ;)

[@Blutroth]

@@W0RK1 nah i don't think so... Anathema is the better Song in my opinion

[@thematt5325]

Did you guys ever do “Furor Divinus”? That song is intense. “Raise the dagger, Abraham, Slit the throat, thy only son, Reverse the history of man, fuck, and reset the world!” So full of anger and hatred. It’s crazy.

[@nascarfancar88]

I'm a huge BEHEMOTH fan, but I got to say, you guys rock with your videos. Keep it up !

[@Pandavoidlord]

That was heavy god bless you guys

[@saiborg7175]

I wanted to like this video, but then I saw the amount of likes and smiled...bittersweet

[@olubcs44]

Cradle Of Filth last week, Batushka, Darkthone and Behemot this week, good, it's great to see that you are enjoying yourselves. Maybe it's time for you to check out "Arrival Of Satan's Empire" (Dark Funeral), "Slay The Nazarane" (Marduk) or "Inno A Satanna" (Emperor). If you want to go for a while to the Death Metal side, I add myself to those recommending Bolt Thrower ("When Cannons Fade" or "Cenotaph") and I suggest "Nothig Is Not" by Morbid Angel and "InTheir Darkened Shrines" by Nile.

[@mightyears8578]

S E P T I C F L E S H Portrait of a Headless Man (official video) Anubis Prometheus (official video) Virtues of the Beast Vampire from Nazareth Martyr Sangreal Communion PLEASE! And ROTTING CHRIST too)

[@pariskotsaros]

Thanks for adding Rotting Christ haha

[@chestbuster1987]

Come join a Patreon alliance man! It might be the only hope :D

[@mightyears8578]

@@chestbuster1987 they do only one or two patreon pick videos a week. I don't think there are more chanses on patreon.

[@VinAndSori]

There are... but you don’t need to join Patreon for us to do that song, it’s coming pretty soon

[@mightyears8578]

@@VinAndSori thank you very-very much!

[@petersagos2740]

A great review. And even better coming from a well informed and researched Christian perspective. As someone who (a) Loves Death Metal and (b) Enjoys reading about Christianity (in particular Roman Catholicism) it's great to have people that know their stuff interpreting and discussing the lyrics and overall theme of the song.

[@uBoBaMnupa]

Type O Negative - All Hallows Eve

[@odinsmeadhorn196]

At some point I remember thinking, 'meh, I'd rather be happy,' then i torched my entire music collection.

[@TheAragorn57]

You guys need to react to Ov Fire and the Void by Behemoth as well!

[@drummerjms]

I'm a big Behemoth fan but if you guys haven't seen the actual video for the song, It tells more of what it's about

[@darktherion7462]

As a wizard myself, nergal is definitely a powerful magician and conjurer of energy. There much purpose to his words and the music, it’s magick and it hits deep. Ave Hekate Ave Lucifer. Keep it up vin and sori I like watching y’all, I was a devout Christian at one point myself. Ive come to where I’m at through rationality and analyzing the aspects of god, I choose not to just believe that his plan is out of my understanding. If his way of testing someone’s faith is as simple as killing your first born son, I think it’s not beyond us. 💙💙💙

[@EilerSorensen]

Paradise Lost - Faith Divides Us Death Unites Us

[@ryanredden3745]

When he says “i pray you die in me” that’s a reference to him getting leukemia. Such a powerful song and thanks for finally doing it

[@benbaer3525]

Arch Enemy - We Will Rise + Fields of Desolation (LIVE Tyrants of the Rising Sun)

[@maxidam6877]

Interesting video and excellent talk. While you were talking Vin, I remembered the parable "He who did not spare his companion" (Matthew 18, 23-35). And take carefully what I say! I am not the best example of Christian, my faith for years is like a small insect that walks itself (or rather, I am the insect). Have a good day Vin and Sori... ...Hail to The Village!!

[@SyrianAtheist]

Awesome review as always guys

[@JJ_957]

It's been a long day and I get home to see that Vin and Sori have uploaded a Behemoth rection. Awesome! When are you guys checking out I Loved You At Your Darkest?

[@ckyrobles100]

Vin what’s the name of your friends band? Are y’all going to post the behemoth show? Have a great one!

[@davidbalija]

I was once a religious person? I was raised Catholic? I converted to the Christian church? Which, was the worst thing in my life? The church turned its back on me? I turned my back on that church also? Now I worship Lucifer and I have no regrets? First time in my life I know what freedom really is?

[@275Ranger275]

Nergal should do children's birthday parties.

[@ppaulisdeadd2710]

don't sweat the concert, Sori. I still get the same anxiousness sometimes. Idk what it is. But I've seen Behemoth and it was fantastic and immersive. Guys. Hear me out. I don't care if it's at the bottom of 1000 other requests you get everyday, so long as it makes the list. But listen to *THANTIFAXATH* - The Bright White Nothing At The End Of The Tunnel (band is pronounced than-tee-fax-ath lol)

[@syntheticsleep]

There are lots of people who only get the surface-level, shock value aspects of stuff like this, and this will only increase with their popularity. But there are plenty that know. They tend not to make themselves known, generally speaking, as outing yourself doesn't tend to lead to positive things. Occultists can also be very elitist and get cross with people who speak openly about these types of things.

[@floheisseler]

Behemoth - Chant For Ezkaton 2000 E.V. It's an old one but I love it and I guess you will too!