Christians Who Hate Jesus

Those who are the loudest about their Christianity seem to be the furthest from Jesus' teachings. My guess is that they're compensating.
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[@DarkMatter2525]

One thing I didn't notice but would like to have pointed out in the video, is that starting around 8:04 you can see at least 5 billionaires standing behind Rev. Lorenzo Sewell after his prayer. These are the oligarchs currently purchasing our country and standing behind a guy claiming to speak on behalf of Jesus. It doesn't get any more Orwellian.

[@kingplunger1]

Its horrifying

[@PatrickWDunne]

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God. - Matthew 19:24

[@thedaijal]

@@DarkMatter2525 Jesus is worse than all of them. Whatever you can say about them doesn't even come close to the evils of Jesus Christ. He's the one who sent Anne Frank to hell for all eternity, assuming Xtianity is true, which it isn't, of course, thankfully. As Hitchens said himself,, the NT is where the fun REALLY begins. In the OT, Yahweh just strikes you down, and sends you to Sheol. In the NT, Jeebus strikes you down, and sends you to Hell, forever. The OT doesn't even come close. 🤣

[@vascofernandes295]

@@PatrickWDunne And they call themselves Christian

[@jonstone9741]

Nature and the universe are the true God. (Baruch Spinoza and Albert Einstein)

[@Crossways.3000]

You know we are cooked when Atheists have to explain basic Christian teaching

[@CteCrassus]

That's actually quite common; Atheists are the only ones who actually crack open the Bible these days.

[@minestar2247]

not gonna lie we all know atheism started because the chruch was corrupt, so it makes sense that atheism in a christian society would know more about christianity that reactionary fools who don't want to read

[@opinion3742]

These hypocrites know they don't follow Christ's teaching.

[@ryanmiller7358]

​@@opinion3742empathy for who exactly? Empathy for the transgender that shot up a christian school?

[@Ashy_Slashy3]

This is scary. We're gonna have to be weary

[@theCommentDevil]

Its a common statement, but if Jesus actually 'came back' the christians would crucify him again

[@nondescriptcat5620]

"Jesus was a Capricorn, He ate organic food. He believed in love and peace and never wore no shoes. Long hair, beard and sandals and a funky bunch of friends. Reckon they'd just nail Him up if He come down again." - Kris Kristofferson

[@Americaisfukd]

Well to be fair the Jews did it the first time 😂 that's supposed to be the root of why people hate the Jews😊😂

[@kingbidenmypres]

Yeah, no one actually believes in god. Most people realize religion is just a weapon, and it shows. Sometimes it even behooves lifelong atheists like me to pretend, so I can get free shit

[@SeanCrosser]

He'd be put into jail and made to work as part of prison labor. That's the current form of state punishment.

[@gwenbathory6656]

Think about the weird denomination that would come from those two polar opposites

[@diamondlion47]

"Turn the other cheek... Love thy neighbor" -Jesus "Get that woke, long haired liberal out of here"- Trump

[@thedaijal]

The whole 'turn the other cheek, love thy enemy' crap is, actually, one of the reasons why I'm not a Xtian.

[@Aaron.Thomas]

​@@thedaijal Then you'll love it when we slap you around. What, no consistency to your ideology? You're cool with us not empathizing with you, right? Didn't think about that one long enough, and what it means when everyone else stops empathizing too?

[@staff4226]

​@@thedaijalyour bait becomes weaker when you lay it everywhere.

[@klubberzvonhatzenbuhl563]

@@thedaijal- You ain’t special. You’re just a malcontent. And I’m also not a christian.

[@karenholmes6565]

@@thedaijal I am not a Christian. But I will say that loving your enemy and turning the other cheek isn't about helping the other person, it is about helping yourself. People who are vindictive and resentful and vengeful are MISERABLE.

[@theduke9292]

“There are people who are scared. Please have mercy on them.” *frothing rage and screaming*

[@bobzilla-1]

yeah, modern christians have no idea about the core tenants of the supposed religion they followed. They all have their own version in there heads that got twisted due to greed and personal motives. U can say that for those who misinterpreted Jesus' teachings, and you can say that about the ppl who day who further misinterpet those teachings.

[@582tird]

They are people who are scared and lashing out… Stay as far away from them as possible

[@michellejean11]

Fascist and fanatics love to induce fear, it makes them feel strong. There is nothing Christian about trump or his religious cultist.

[@user-ho3uu4sn4p]

The only thing that brings me solace is that these so-called christians are most certainly going to hell if it exists.

[@ThoughtyTheWrangler]

“What was it she said that got everyone so upset?” “Be kind to each other.” “Oh yeah, that’ll do it.”

[@Rusty254]

I'm not a Christian and I was upset by this, if you have problems with a guy and his viewpoints talk to him in a place where he can respond and say his piece. A church is not the place to take someone down a peg and much less in a broadcasted service. I have no issue with the message but preaching to one specific person that can't even defend themself is not the way.

[@allis_babey]

​@Rusty254 but he isn't a regular guy? He is the president, this way likely her only opportunity to ever speak directly to him. I doubt it was about bringing him "down a peg". She want to speak her mind a philosophy to him and I think she did it very compassionately.

[@roycampbell586]

​@@Rusty254Have you ever made these remarks about other pastors preaching politics to their audience? Never seen someone on the right complain about political pastors until this controversy.

[@Whispitt]

​@@Rusty254 she asked for mercy.

[@itoibo4208]

@@Rusty254 yeah, no preacher has ever denounced bad behavior at the pulpit

[@UnstableGoofball]

Literally all she said was “Love thy neighbor”

[@junkers3824]

@@thedaijal What are you on about bro?

[@spacebook8923]

@@thedaijal did you come here just to say shit?

[@Salamander_falls]

⁠​⁠@@thedaijalNo one here is telling you to be a Christian, unless you are a MAGA hypocrite weaponizing the Bible. Those are the people being called out in this.

[@seedtheskies]

​@thedaijal i think everyone missed your point bro, sorry. I do agree with you.

[@thedaijal]

​@@junkers3824What am I on about? The woman he's talking about in the video, the left-wing cleric talking to Trump. I thought it was obvious. I repeat: I don't care what xtian ministers have to say, about anything. I don't like them. That clear enough for you, son?

[@uncle_ahab]

The priest sprinting to shill his shitcoin was not on my bingo card

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

Really? I think you need to update yours because that seems pretty common these days.

[@Not_that_Brian_Jones]

Same, but I am _not_ surprised

[@Lastman1900]

Who, the Bishop women who spoke to Trump?

[@freedomfighter4990]

The hottest corner of hell is reserved for phony Christian grifters like Lorenzo.

[@xXJ4FARGAMERXx]

​@@Lastman1900 12:00

[@spetsznas]

"Activism has no place in the service of our God!" Jesus: "Am thy a joke to thee?"

[@mancave10369]

From my memory and what I’ve read from scripture, Jesus would’ve been considered what we know as “woke”/“liberal” for his day, lol.

[@communistcomputergod6449]

@@mancave10369 once they realize he’s from the Middle East, they’d call him a DEI hire 😂

[@TheSapphireLeo]

Also *Yeshua?

[@Souleater7777]

@@mancave10369 how ? Where do you people come up with this stuff

[@Monasaurus_Rex]

@@mancave10369not just woke, they’d call him a radical, extremist, and communist. Jesus continuously expressed selling all your material possessions and giving all your money to the poor, he was very much a socialist, be believed everyone deserved to live life comfortably without unnecessary suffering

[@яднович]

I once saw a trump supporter at an anti immigration rally saying that he would welcome jesus in his country as long as he came in legally.

[@zTN52]

If he starts descending from the heavens, they'll call a drone strike on him.

[@thedaijal]

Speaking as an atheist, I would have absolutely no problem deporting Jeebus.

[@tolmeybaguvix2515]

Thus a funny story was born

[@DulcetNuance]

Honestly I respect it. He stands on his principles lol.

[@seedtheskies]

​@@zTN52probably anti air

[@bainides]

I'm not surprised, these people think empathy is a character flaw.

[@revlarmilion9574]

@@thedaijal That's not how empathy works.

[@nondescriptcat5620]

@@thedaijal

[@ComicXanz]

We need to test for antisocial behavior more

[@joshridinger3407]

​@revlarmilion9574 do you think trumpers deserve empathy, or scorn?

[@ThisguySL]

@@thedaijal That's true for some cases, but even were it is, mediocracy still *AIN'T* a virtue.

[@gothgrrl8711]

Modern Christian’s be like “how dare you even suggest I show empathy for people who are different from me”

[@XiauWuhan]

Modern Atheist’s be like “how dare you even suggest being respectful for people who are different from me”

[@bigzed7908]

@@XiauWuhan Modern Humans be like "how dare you even suggest your stick is longer" This is an old one, but most will get it.

[@spacecat6022]

@@XiauWuhan We respect the person but we do not respect their sin of being evil and heartless which makes them different. Love the sinner and hate the sin. I'll always say that to the republicans now a like they always annoy the lgbtqia people with it. Republicans are evil and heartless but I only condemn their sins

[@josiechaney9010]

“…. I’m being PERSECUTED!!!!” 🤣

[@JasonTaylor90210]

How dare I show empathy to those who don't deserve it. Seems pretty logical to me. 😂

[@PatrickWDunne]

"She should never be allowed to preach the message of Jesus in her life" Party of Free Speech, everyone

[@jordanvannortwick9426]

Republicans get to decide who speak about Jesus, apparently.

[@nanotech1921]

no you dont understand! Its free speech as long as you support trump! because thats definitely free speech!

[@kipz]

when have they ever been the party of free speech? they just want to say slurs and not lose their job

[@2l84me8]

There’s no hate like Christian love. Look at all the backlash from a pastor asking for kindness.

[@DarkHorseSki]

We are all for kindness, but we recognize that it is not a kindness to the USA to allow the harms she cried to defend.

[@Ozzy3000]

Murica! Hell Yeah!

[@2l84me8]

@@DarkHorseSki No, you’re just hateful and racist.

[@jaycred8726]

​@@DarkHorseSki"We stand for kindness, unless you're one of the bad minorities or immigrants." (The quiet part is that it's safe to assume they're all bad)

[@zenosol234]

@@DarkHorseSki ??? what harms? literally what harms? she said that some children fear for our lives, that illegal immigrants still pay taxes, and work in critical areas, that american ideals are that all men are created equal, the bibles ideals are that you should love your neighbor, and you were once a foreigner too, and that she wished that the USA could move more towards unity

[@anewhero1216]

All the respect to Bishop Budde, she gave that short sermon to possibly the most hostile audience she could’ve had - genuine bravery and conviction to her beliefs.

[@CampingforCool41]

I’m honestly shocked they allowed her to speak

[@VENOMdeVINO]

​@@CampingforCool41what's wild is no matter how many times I watch it, it still feels like somebody was about to interrupt her

[@mistrsportak9940]

​@@VENOMdeVINOI guess they waited for her to end only to join the hating group shortly after

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

Brave. And for that bravery, Trump will ensure she is jailed.

[@fernandomarques5166]

​@@VENOMdeVINOVance was absolutely considering it, he looks so done

[@mykhalable9433]

Evangelicals would fight over how the electric chair isn't cruel enough for Jesus.

[@bobkane432]

And two thousand years later people are wearing electric chair necklaces

[@josiechaney9010]

They have an ancient appetite.

[@JasonTaylor90210]

​​@@bobkane432"Do you think when Jesus comes back he wants to see a fucking cross? That's like going up to Jackie O'Nassus with a rifle pendant going "Just thinking of John, Jackie! Just thinking of John!" "-Bill Hicks.

[@1xznyy]

@@bobkane432 lol

[@redder1078]

@@bobkane432 Lol,That made me laugh so hard man

[@billy9497able]

She didn’t even tell him to not implement his policies, she just said to treat people like humans.

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

Exactly. She only _asked_ him to be merciful, as any Christian should.

[@NaqrSeranvis]

@@LukeMcGuireoides And in doing so, she shamed him. She had the courage to say "The king is naked".

[@terrencelockett4072]

Exactly, that was the wild part. But also the telling part. There's a little piece in their head that's telling them that they have to be cruel to enact the policies they want, if they're that easily triggered by someone saying don't be cruel to certain groups of people.

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

@terrencelockett4072 cruelty is part of the motive but they can't stand being confronted on it. Snowflakes

[@lmlimpoism]

she says normal words and gets a crazy response. humans are horrible to eachother.

[@Kitsunetim]

sadly yeah. i'm ashamed to be human.

[@littlebitofhope1489]

Gutsick Gibbon just addressed this, and it was really interesting. It seems xenophobia is a very entrenched trait in all the Great Apes. So she said it is something we all have, and need to acknowledge it and fight against it. If you don't, you will engage in it. It's a great explanation as to why humans are horrible to each other. My group good. Anyone else bad, is basically it.

[@GodsArePeopleToo]

While diaper Don talks crazy and it gets normalized

[@lmlimpoism]

@ I believe it stems from tribalism & interspecies competition. If something is different about another species or race of people, then they must be bad, says the gorilla man with no brain.

[@j3i2i2yl7]

MAGA christians expect pastors to tell them what they want to hear, not what they need to hear.

[@ZaKrakilla]

When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.

[@staff4226]

Don't insult clowns, it's a very dignified profession.

[@tsg2009]

Palaces are always full of clowns

[@Emiliapocalypse]

@@tsg2009 jesters! They’re different! 😊

[@DarkHorseSki]

And fortunately we just cleared out the circus and have restored the dignity of the White House.

[@joehorn1762]

Said no sane and factual human ever.​@@DarkHorseSki

[@Drizzle480]

I'm a better Christian than most of these people, and I'm an atheist.

[@jeejkee6471]

Nice one. That’s why i dislike most Christians sadly.

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

May Lucifer bless you with knowledge and health.

[@lmlimpoism]

despite leaving the religion, i maintain its most important lessons. which is to be kind.

[@David5676-k7o]

Atheist are the most kind good and honest people there are.

[@GothicVioletVixen]

Preach

[@blinkachu05]

It's literally that one quote from Good Omens "What was it he said that got everyone so upset?" "'Be kind to each other'" "Oh yeah. That'll do it"

[@Ben-Ken]

I saw that black preacher stomping on MLK's legacy in real time. It was so cringe, i was gritting my teeth in shame.

[@Fokko]

I fear this grifting behavior is contagious especially as it’s seems to be rewarding only so far!!

[@christinasibley2791]

Oh, another one of “those” preachers who just want your money! They’re so fake! Give me the Bishop any day!

[@jacksont9455]

It’s giving “leopards will eat my face”

[@henryviiifake8244]

Honestly, it was so utterly disgusting to watch him tap-dance for someone _endorsed by the KKK._

[@FulloutPostal]

people like that make me wish their god was real

[@michaelramon2411]

"Perhaps the atheist who is kind to the foreigner is more of an actual Christian than those who boast about their belief in Christ." This is literally the point of the Parable of the Good Samaritan, the most famous Biblical parable. The Samaritan is not a Jew, but he offers more love to the wounded Jew than the Jewish religious figures who walked past before.

[@JasonTaylor90210]

Maybe it doesn't matter. 😂

[@anwarxv9279]

Except atheism i.e Naturalism was not a thing back then. Atheism is crime against god, Not helping the wounded out of selfishness is crime only against that wounded guy, i.e if we excluded God’s commands and presumed one’s own self interest at-most priority, the logical thinking then would be its stupid idea to risk yourself and your trade by walking into a risky scenario where there is >1% chance it is a trap ,or waste your resources in an already wasted man who will die out of infection anyway. An average toddler would tell you denying God’s right to be worshipped is the ultimate crime An average humanitarian pacifist libtard will tell you human feelings is the most sacred, cuz humans are OP

[@tastyhaze2058]

Hey, I would recommend you check out ReligionForBreakfast's video on the parable of the good Samaritan, I would explain here, but I'll almost certainly be censored by our Google overlords

[@fnjesusfreak]

@@tastyhaze2058 Or for that matter Dan McClellan's video on teh same topic.

[@EdwardHowton]

I really don't understand why so many people love that parable. The premise is literally "All those Samaritans are filthy evil foreigners... but I found this SINGLE good one". Wow, really? That's what you're going with, christians? I suppose, considering that, it should come as no surprise how much christians hate everyone.

[@mzeke1100]

You DarkMatter2525 are an intellectual heavyweight. You are (not single handedly) responsible for my loss of bigotry towards LGBTQ+ people and (single handedly) responsible for my exit from the menosphere (red pill space). I’ve always been a fan of yours for your atheist content and would like to thank you for opening my eyes and my mind to the world. I used to be homophobic, but the more I thought about it, I asked myself, why do I hate something that really has nothing to do with me? Do the actions of gay people affect my financial status, my health, my happiness etc. No, they don’t, so why was I so bothered by them? It was because I was taught to hate them, I think the fact that I’m an atheist made it easier for me to discard my bigotry because most justifications for homophobia are religious, and I don’t adhere to that doctrine.

[@BlacksmithTWD]

I like his videos even though I disagree occasionally. For instance I disagree with the claim in this video that Jesus never said anything about the LGBTQ+ people, Matthew 22:39 clearly reads : "And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself." that includes the LGBTQ+ people.

[@garrettebling5426]

@@BlacksmithTWD The Gospels were written decades after Jesus supposedly lived. The stories of Jesus were told orally until that time, plenty of space/time for embellishments (ever play the game of "telephone"?) So the "words" of Jesus aren't even the words of Jesus. They are the Gospels' authors' storytelling. So one can't say "Jesus said this" or "Jesus said that" -- only those who were actually with Jesus at the time he said anything knows what he said. Pretty mind-boggling when you think about how Christians hang on certain words of Jesus recorded in the Gospels.

[@caucasoidape8838]

I'm gay, and there is a lot I dislike about gay culture. We treat each other pretty bad. I can understand why we are hated.

[@utubepunk]

​@@caucasoidape8838That comes from externalities like bigotry from a hetero centric society which causes you to hate yourself & your fellow gay/lesbian brothers & sisters.

[@mzeke1100]

@@caucasoidape8838 but to be honest that's not the reason why people hate gay people from my experience. Not to invalidate your point but most people don't know why they hate but they were taught to hate. Every group has it's flaws and that in no way is an reasonable way to hate anyone.

[@nickstein3129]

I'm not religious. But I used to be. Has anyone considered that trump might be the anti-christ? I feel like there's a lot of compelling evidence.

[@muliefriend4785]

I’ve been saying that for years. He checks all the boxes.

[@lefishe5845]

​@@muliefriend4785 including having his mark put on the heads of his believers lol

[@sassyviking6003]

The evidence is compelling.

[@MatchaTheVibeking]

Ive definitely 100% felt this way. How else could such huge waves of people genuinely believe this scammy, sleazy, arrogant asshole could possibly be endorsed by the God in their bible? There are people who literally believe he's the second coming.

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

It's crossed my mind more than once...

[@watchingvideosalot3960]

The sin of empathy...

[@zTN52]

They will drop the "sin of feeding the poor", just you wait.

[@shroomer3867]

@@zTN52 Here before "sin of children's rights" drops

[@thedaijal]

I'm an atheist. I believe in borders. Sue me.

[@Magicghost23]

That Sounds like That’s some top Tier villain dialogue

[@CharlesRay-rt7jb]

Stop your hatred of God that horrendous behavior rapes him

[@thunderbird3694]

Susan B Anthony: "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires"

[@FadkinsDiet]

Ehh, there are some practiced hypocrites/narcissists/sociopaths whi can say with a straight face, "I hate to have to do this to you, but it's what God wants"

[@Avana1003]

The juxtaposition of Bishop Budde and Lorenzo Sewell is so stark that I would have said it's too on the nose if it was in a piece of fiction. What a clown show. I commend her for her integrity

[@Aaron.Thomas]

Everything has been too on-the-nose since 2016. Yet here we are. People can't even get the ham fisted message.

[@blackbird7781]

She will go down in history as a hero while he will go down in history as a traitor and greedy pig

[@ProfessorPenny2583]

It's funny how many people expect us to not be so serious with fiction, when popular, beloved fictional medias made more sense than reality.

[@cosmictraveler1146]

The crypto coin bit is right out of a satire show 😭

[@mandarinablue38]

You could see the shilling on his face the entire time at trump's inauguration and when he did the video asking for money after the ceremony but I bet he shit talks trump behind closed doors. He's an absolute sellout.

[@funki4896]

Bishop: please be kind to your fellow people Trump: and I took that personally

[@BeatrixKiddo198]

"Being kind got us into this mess" ....since when has maga been kind to anyone other than themselves?

[@quantumblurrr]

They're not even kind to eachother lol, they want 25% tarriffs on themselves and their neighbours

[@irrelevant_noob]

@BeatrixKiddo198 if you include the implicit info, it's " _other people_ being kind got us into this mess " ;-)

[@ThisguySL]

@@quantumblurrr What was the saying? "Chop off your nose to spite your face?" IDR

[@erikburzinski8248]

​@@quantumblurrrtrue but in there delude fantasy they think there being kind to themselves.

[@Hailstrumm]

I asked my mother why she thought tarrifs were good and she said "well it will be hard at first but then prices will go down"​@quantumblurrr

[@karenlankford8558]

My brother who claims to be a Christian, and whose wife is a pastor, posted about this bishop being "divisive". I asked him if he had read the Gospels and told that if he claimed to be a Christian and had a problem with calls for someone to be compassionate and merciful, he did not have a problem with the pastor, he had a problem with God. Mercy and compassion was kind of Jesus' thing.

[@thedaijal]

Mercy and compassion? LOL. Yeah, eternal damnation sure is compassionate, isn't it? Give me a fucking break. 🤣

[@thedaijal]

LOL. What's so merciful, and compassionate, about eternal damnation? If you don't follow Jeebus, you go straight to hell, FOREVER. That's compassionate to you? Give me a fucking break. If Jeebus is real, Anne Frank is burning in hell, you do know that, right? 🤣

[@MattGreerMusic]

What did they say to that?

[@kiriebalaka]

My family were mad because she's a woman. But when I asked if it were a man who would have done it instead they told me they would still be mad but less mad which made me laugh. I can't believe these "Christians "

[@dudebarker9268]

What a hypocrite omg he would mention mercy in someone he feels worthy off. He's going to hell .

[@lenojames]

A call for mercy is not nasty. A call for mercy does not warrant an apology.

[@truc5038]

As a Christian, I want to thank you for this video. Every time I hear those people pretending to be following the word of Jesus to justify their hateful politics, I wish I could just tell them everything you've just said in one word. I don't want them to make me ashamed of my faith. To my brothers and sisters united in the faith and the message of Christ, let us pray together for the salvation of these poor souls, hoping to one day make them return to the right path, that of the word of Christ, the only one from which Christianity should make them proud. Amen

[@alicealysia]

I keep thinking of revelations message to beware the false prophet. The men who would lead the masses astray and turn many so-called Christians away from god.

[@matthewlawton9241]

There was no jesus at the holocaust. There will be no jesus in America. If you sit idly by mumbling empty prayers to beings who either don't exist or don't care, YOU ARE the problem...

[@cosmicspacething3474]

Don’t let them make you ashamed. Don’t let them win.

[@bossman1217]

How do people legitimately think Trump is a christian?

[@klyvemurray]

Disingenuous or braindead!!

[@Diakyu]

Because they see what they want too. Rather, I try not to be mean when saying things like this but it is just simply that people of the christian faith are told to not doubt those in authority and believe them blindly. it starts with someone's father and goes all the way up to the big man upstairs, it's not a jump to subtly move that feeling onto a politician. Especially one who pays you lip service at a time when you perceive yourself as a victim (as many christian do in this country because equality feels like inequality when you're used to being on top).

[@ithinkiknowme6450]

Yep, precisely put...​@@Diakyu

[@caucasoidape8838]

They say "the Lord uses flawed people for the better good", or some similar bullshit.

[@mechellerene]

Christian facism is a hellofa drug

[@lnsflare1]

No atheist could possibly hate Jesus as much as a Right Wing Christian does.

[@buffruhdy]

I find it funny how often I use Christs words against Christians. Even though I don’t believe he existed, I do think his biblical character is pretty admirable because he was basically a hippie who wanted everyone to care about each other (an oversimplification of course, but still fits the vibe). And that desire to have everyone love each other makes Christians EXTREMELY uncomfortable. Edit: I’m tired of individually replying this so here’s an edit: I’m well aware that Jesus was a real guy. I said I don’t believe he existed was a bad way to phrase it, what I meant I I don’t believe Jesus as he was written in the Bible was a real guy. I don’t believe in the supernatural. But yes, a guy named Jesus lived, was baptized, and was crucified.

[@Legendarylegend75]

@@buffruhdy Yeah you misunderstood Christ entirely. His most important teaching is that we must love God with all our heart, and Christ condemned sin constantly. Yet you guys find condemning sin as "hateful".

[@buffruhdy]

@@Legendarylegend75 actually no, Christ’s greatest legacy is his sacrifice for humanity. He hated sin and therefore gave his life so all sinners could be forgiven. Note how he did that for the sake of sinners. Why? Because he loved humanity and he expected humanity to love itself. It’s true he wanted people to love god as well, but his sacrifice is what we remember him for. He constantly made friends with sinners. The very day he would be put to death he told the criminal next to him that he would be with him in paradise. Idk man, seems like a guy who really liked people despite their sins to me.

[@Legendarylegend75]

@@buffruhdy Love the sinner hate the sin, but modern atheists demand we love sin, too.

[@legupff]

I'm not really sure why an Atheist would hate Jesus, anyway.

[@RialVestro]

I find it ironic that the people who most often try to force homosexuality on me are closeted Christians who claim to be straight. I was literally SAed as a child by these people who hate gays. For a long time I hated gays myself because based on my limited experience I had assumed that homosexuality was always forced. It wasn't till I was in my 20's and a gay co-worker asked me "What do you care what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home when it doesn't involve you?" And I realized I didn't have a answer for that because the idea of it ever being consentual had never even occured to me till that point in my life. Openly gay men, at least the ones I've interacted with, have been far more likely to respect my boundaries and not force their sexuality on me than these supposedly "straight" Christians who seem to afraid of their own sexuality. There's a reason that so many Catholic Priests were caught with young boys. Maybe they should worry more about the immoral behavor within their own Church groups than what other people are doing in private with consenting adults.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

That's very sad to hear. I grew up disliking gay people because that's what religion told me to do. So up until the end of high school I didn't even consider I could be.

[@dickottel]

priests are pervs, lmao they expected men to live in celibate, great idea...

[@somexp12]

You've scratched the surface of a rather big topic, which doesn't get discussed enough, and which I've never seen get discussed in completeness. The long essay below is actually only part. I saw this from a different angle, going to an extremely conservative (traditionalist) Catholic private school in the wake of the "Spot Light" scandal. I got to see my super-Catholic do everything they could to point the finger at homosexual "infiltrators" and away from any faults with Catholicism, itself. The topic of "the queers" maybe came up every other lecture by are headmaster, who taught a number of my classes. Sitting through that from the time I was 15 until I was 18, I learned from them that being coercive was supposedly just part of my nature. I can totally imagine how some less scruplulous individuals might take that lesson and then proceed to live up to the expectations they were taught to have of themselves. Another thing worth noting is that consent isn't even part of traditional sexual "morality." Traditionally, they've been a lot more concerned with "eww," "natural law," "purity," etc. There isn't even any credible defense of consent in the Bible. I've challenged multiple Christians to find one, and they've responded only with passages that teach the opposite (the man's authority/ownership of his wife). This attitude persisted even into the 19th century, when age of consent was still as low as 12 or 13 and fathers still had the authority to, more or less, sell off their daughters to much older men. To reiterate, the concern was "eww," or "natural law," not consent. If she was capable of having kids and daddy liked the man asking for her, then it was all perfectly "natural." Even as late as the 50s or 60s, it wasn't unheard of for teenage boys who were victimized to be prosecuted as "accomplices." As far as the law was concerned, it wasn't their autonomy that was infringed on. It was "natural law." Anyhow, because ancient sexual mores were already quite coercive, this effectively linked homosexuality to coercion. The Romans almost mandated that the "receptive" position in homosexual acts had to be someone it was forced on. It was acceptable for someone of high rank to subject someone of low rank to this, but you were necessarily highlighting their lowly station. When Christian authorities banned homosexuality outright, it was conceptually frozen in time. Heterosexual standards were able to evolve to eventually give women some dignity and autonomy. By the 60s, *_the public was mentally comparing 60s ethical standards in heterosexual relationships to ancient Roman standards for homosexuality._*

[@somexp12]

You've scratched the surface of a very big and important topic. A ton of history behind it and a lot of things to go into in order to fully cover how thoroughly religion has poisoned the water as well as exacerbated the risk of SA. I see it from the perspective of someone who, as a teenager, was taught that coercion was basically in my nature. Very conservative Catholic school in the wake of the "Spot light" scandal. They were pointing the finger at gay "infiltrators" in order to excuse their religion, and I took that message in and took years to realize how they had confused me about my own self. I can imagine how some less scrupulous individuals could internalize that message and then proceed to live up to those dark expectations.

[@somexp12]

Also related: Consent is not actually a part of traditional sexual "morality," which is more concerned about "eww," "natural law," and a man's "property." You won't find consent defended in the Bible. When I challenge Christians to find such a passage they usually come back with something like Deut 22, which (if read objectively) teaches the precise opposite. This attitude has persisted well into Christendom. By the 19th century, for example, 12 or 13 year old girls could still be married off to much older men without having any say in the matter. 100 years of feminism has accomplished far more for consent than 2000 years of Christianity.

[@lucas.warhero]

Reverend Lorenzo and I have something in common: neither of us believes in god.

[@theutopitarian]

😂

[@Turalcar]

He might. He probably believes he'll con him too

[@somedudenamedluke420]

Kratos taking a very different approach to confronting the Abrahamic gods I see

[@maddo-hq9jr]

😂

[@jannehansen-haug3375]

Going for the title of God of intellectualism while he's at it.

[@JoeRobertshaw]

Underrated comment

[@OctyabrAprelya]

Dang, I needed that laugh XD

[@PatrickWDunne]

"Aren't you a Christian?" "Yup" "And you follow the teachings of Jesus" "Yup" "If you follow the teachings of Jesus, that must include loving your neighbor, welcoming the foreigner, and rich men giving their possessions to the poor" "That makes sense to me" "Then you should do those things" "NOOOOO THAT'S WOKE!!!!"

[@vascofernandes295]

true

[@Codeation]

Romans 13:1-2. So yes, illegal immigrants that do break the law should be handled still. Average r/Atheist.

[@imimaginingchaos]

That episode of SpongeBob where Patrick keeps trying to return Manray's wallet 😭

[@McHobotheBobo]

@@imimaginingchaos Manray was returning Patrick's wallet but yeah lol

[@Dominic-o3k]

You can love someone and not agree with their actions on some things.

[@ukamikazu]

Again and again, your words constantly echo through my mind, "If the truth is on your side, why lie?"

[@MindOfGenius]

"If someone was really THAT evil, why feel the need to grossly exaggerate?" has been echoing in my head for the last 10 years. Save damnation for the religious nutjobs, everybody.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

I've known a person or two who lies compulsively. They'll lie without needing to, without intending to, or even fully knowing why they did. I think it has something to do with fear of vulnerability, and just to see if they can for when they need to later.

[@Tiptoe6927]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/in7QpGV6f7Nja5Y ^ In the URL above, a link to YOUR video: A Bible Story Snagged from Older Gods - By DarkMatter 2525 The purpose of the unuma Alish which the Babylonians read every Babylonian new year was to point out the fact that the deities and there's countless deities in the Pantheon they actually come from the created order so they're not outside of time and space. They actually come from the created order and when they die in this battle right when teamot is defeated, the defeated God become the earth and the sky and the the plants and even you and me and in that sense the theme is that you don't actually have any purpose or end result and you're not created in the image of God. In fact in the ancient Babylonian system only the kings were created in the image of God, and what we see that is counter to that is that even sure they're superficial you know "divided the waters" but we find that in almost every you society and culture that's not that's not a parallel as much as just a generality. I would say what we see within the biblical account is that God purposefully creates, there's only one God, he purposefully creates, and then he creates and it's good and it continues to say it's good seven times and then at the end of chapter one just for, you know the thick people in the original audience it says and then it was very good and then he creates Humanity, not Kings but simply the humans that he creates in God's image and they have purpose and meaning and that instills them with this creation order and that's not what we find in the unuma Alish. In fact we find the opposite in the unuma Alish is that the created order is not good, it's a mistake, and that you are not created in the image of God and there's a reminder that regular people are not created in the image of God. -Wes Huff STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION!

[@donHooligan]

@@kamikeserpentail3778 maybe pathological?

[@DarkHorseSki]

Exactly... why does the left lie so much? Well, in their case, it turns out the truth is not on their side even if they like to pretend it is.

[@Ophelia-t3p]

as a newly converted transgender christian this video helped me massively, thank you. i'm so sick and tired of these people trying to teach that God hates me, God loves everyone.. I wish there were more men like you in the church and in the world in general. thank you.

[@jacobmonks3722]

I'm glad to see you're trying to become closer to God. Welcome!

[@Ophelia-t3p]

@@jacobmonks3722 thank you :DDD i went to church for the first time on sunday!! God bless you

[@sunbreakerqueenofbronze621]

God isn’t the only person who loves and appreciates you. Never forget that.

[@Ophelia-t3p]

@ yes that's right thank you!! God bless you brother

[@Hailstrumm]

So your with the people who hate you? You realise that religion is a way to control the masses

[@henryviiifake8244]

Lorenzo Sawell makes me physically sick. He took a shit all over what civil rights activists fought and even died for. And for what? Someone convicted of sexual assault, along with multiple other felonies, who is _endorsed by the KKK._

[@Tiptoe6927]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/in7QpGV6f7Nja5Y ^ In the URL above, a link to YOUR video: A Bible Story Snagged from Older Gods - By DarkMatter 2525 The purpose of the unuma Alish which the Babylonians read every Babylonian new year was to point out the fact that the deities and there's countless deities in the Pantheon they actually come from the created order so they're not outside of time and space. They actually come from the created order and when they die in this battle right when teamot is defeated, the defeated God become the earth and the sky and the the plants and even you and me and in that sense the theme is that you don't actually have any purpose or end result and you're not created in the image of God. In fact in the ancient Babylonian system only the kings were created in the image of God, and what we see that is counter to that is that even sure they're superficial you know "divided the waters" but we find that in almost every you society and culture that's not that's not a parallel as much as just a generality. I would say what we see within the biblical account is that God purposefully creates, there's only one God, he purposefully creates, and then he creates and it's good and it continues to say it's good seven times and then at the end of chapter one just for, you know the thick people in the original audience it says and then it was very good and then he creates Humanity, not Kings but simply the humans that he creates in God's image and they have purpose and meaning and that instills them with this creation order and that's not what we find in the unuma Alish. In fact we find the opposite in the unuma Alish is that the created order is not good, it's a mistake, and that you are not created in the image of God and there's a reminder that regular people are not created in the image of God. -Wes Huff STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION!

[@syntaxterror9479]

Integrity is cheap these days.

[@smokelord2002]

Money and fame. Same as all the fake TV "pastors".

[@garetroth5683]

Why do you think Trump achieved a higher percentage of black votes than any Republican president in nearly 50 years then?

[@dontuserachelslurs]

He did it for millions of dollars of course He doesn't have real beliefs, at least none on display besides greed

[@OddLlama]

This was one of those moments where i expected everyone around me to be as shocked as i was at the reactions. I should have known better, residing in Arkansas and all.

[@NotA-Lizard]

Heyyy, yer not a llama at all! Y4r Batman!!!!

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

I surround myself with people who aren't shocked, but for the opposite reason. We've come to expect these "Christians" to act this way.

[@Americaisfukd]

Hey man how's old Billy😂

[@ominous-omnipresent-they]

I reside in Mississippi. Your disappointment is palpable.

[@NotA-Lizard]

@@ominous-omnipresent-they I'm in Ga, its ugly already here.

[@VisiblyPinkUnicorn]

Me: "an hour long video? That's too long to watch." The video: *is from DarkMatter* Me: "wait a second, I need to brew a tea first."

[@Emiliapocalypse]

Love listening to these long videos as I do chores around the house. You have a beautiful profile pic. Enjoy your tea!

[@blakewilmot458]

It’s definitely playing while I’m at work!

[@jenniferhart559]

If you're pressed for time in the future, I've found that DM2525 speaks slowly and clearly enough that his videos are still good at 1.75-2 x speed 😄👍

[@Dominic-o3k]

@@VisiblyPinkUnicorn Yeah. What a waste.

[@danielchard535]

Ahh a fellow uk watcher I see?

[@georgelarie]

All this because one woman just told the president "hey people are scared. Please don't make things worse for people"

[@Sm0k3turt]

How dare they! It blows my mind how empathy has become this insane unfathomable idea.

[@TechnoSpice]

American Christianity has as much to do with Jesus as modern Christmas has to do with Christ. As much to do with Steel-making as the Steelers football team. It is a set dressing, a mascot, an icon, to sell something completely unrelated.

[@thedaijal]

I only practice the pagan aspects of Xmas.

[@phaIIicaIIyimpaired]

The products being bought by its believers are a moral high horse and a lifelong 'good person' pass.

[@staff4226]

​@@thedaijalthe entire thing?

[@littlebitofhope1489]

It has nothing to do with "american" anything. It is simply human nature. The bible is just a human reflection, so there is just about everything in it, so you can cherry pick your way form compassion to atrocity and really be biblically accurate. Remember, Jesus said to follow those horrible old laws, and slavery was supported. All human's are xenophobes. Every one. Even the other Great apes are xenophobic. You have to realize that and fight against it in yourself. Most people don't do either.

[@freedomfighter4990]

Please don't think those Christian nationalist bigots,or Chump, represent all or even most Believers. Those folks ain't Christians becuz they ignore the teachings of Christ that prohibit them from spewing hatred & punishing the sins of others.

[@thedragonofechigo7878]

I'm sorry but this..this is one of the reasons I left Christianity, people love to use the "I'm the real Christian here and this one is not and is leading people to Hell" to justify their toxicity and vile behavior because it's what they think God would agree with because they are in the right. This hypocrisy, this putrid behavior says so much. All she said was to be compassionate and merciful and look what happened, the outrage was absolutely unjustified against her.

[@thedaijal]

As an atheist, I really don't care what some cleric has to say about anything. Besides, I believe in borders, and biology. You don't have a right to be here if you're here illegally, and a man shouldn't be put in a women's prison, just because he puts a wig on, and calls himself Sally. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[@StanTorrent]

@@thedaijalEver heard the term “useful idiot”? Perfect descriptions for people like you. When they’re done with the other boogeymans, you’re next

[@Ozzy3000]

You havent left Christianity... you left some murican nutjobs who got something wrong.

[@Crimethoughtfull]

Yep...Jesus never said "love thy neighbor unless they crossed illegally b/c your country is 100x better than theirs and they want to be like you--if they do that, boot 'em back and let the Cartels take them".

[@dickottel]

I left Christianity cause as a teenager I realized I'm a feminist and pro queer rights 🙃 Where I'm from the church is really conservative (Poland), the Catholic priests obviously can't live in celibate, there's so many scandals lol, from female lovers to gay orgies to child victims

[@frogglen6350]

I have a strong feeling Conservatives wouldn't like Jesus

[@nondescriptcat5620]

especially when they find out He wasn't white...

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

In the Bible, the Pharisees and Sadducees are basically the religious conservatives of their time. And they had him killed.

[@GrimmWitchands]

Middlest man that critiques the rich and talks about empathy to everyone.

[@GrimmWitchands]

Why wouldn't they like him?

[@NA-vz9ko]

@@GrimmWitchandsbecause he’s woke

[@Naxthural]

Being offended by a plea for mercy is the biggest self-report I believe I've ever seen.

[@Sm0k3turt]

“How dare you feel afraid that must mean you think I’m doing something wrong”

[@Naxthural]

@@Sm0k3turt Yeah pretty much the mentality

[@jacobmonks3722]

It's hard being a Catholic. Not because I am persecuted or particularly disadvantaged, and not because taking part in the traditions is time-consuming and involved, but because I have to witness people ignoring the teachings of Christ and the church while claiming to be his greatest followers. And any attempt to talk these people down and suggest they open their heart to humility and compassion is met with vitrol and spite.

[@MrStrizver]

I always thought the hardest part of being Catholic was dodging horny clergy.

[@emptyhand777]

I simply left. Mass should not be a pseudo political rally. Not once did I hear one word against any of the horrible things Trump has done, only praise. But any other politician the opposite is true. I will never understand how a 3 time married New York playboy has hijacked all denominations of Christianity. Imagine if Obama had multiple children with multiple women. Hypocrisy.

[@sassyviking6003]

This has been a huge struggle for me as well. These people preach the opposite of Jesus teachings on every front. Their every sermon is a blasphemy and mockery of the faith. And yet because they are loud, so many inside and outside the faith just accept that is what christianity is. I am the son of a pastor and in a personal sense I will always hold my faith close and dear but I have not managed to set foot in a church in years.

[@jacobmonks3722]

@sassyviking6003 I sympathize with the struggle, and I pray that you find a church that is more dedicated to Christ.

[@isdrakon9802]

As a detransitioned Christian, I'd highly recommend looking into revelations and the antichrist. It's uncomfortable just how much lines up with Trump

[@KReese333]

"The sin of empathy" These people aren't even hiding the white conservative Jesus narrative anymore.😂😂

[@Erasmustherobot]

They've already broke out the map kzbin.infoTmqaSVQQHSU?si=FY9AJi9myOCgR_vG

[@trent_king]

That was the sin that ended Lott's wife😢

[@KReese333]

@Erasmustherobot I wish I could get back the time I wasted on watching this 😭🤣she really thinks the Bible stories took place in Texas 😭🤣the education system been failing since the 70s

[@joshridinger3407]

compassion is a vice in classical virtue ethics and stoicism. greek philosophy really ruined christianity.

[@DarkHorseSki]

The empathy exists, but unlike libtards, we don't allow empathy to be an excuse to allow harmful things to happen. The bigger sin is the ignorance of the woke libtards and the harms they demand they be able to push.

[@aubreypressley1450]

"Activism has no place in service to our god" Hmmm...I suppose Jesus never did any activism ever

[@JohnnieJar]

Ah I remember the non activist Jesus kindly telling the traders to leave the temple grounds not turning their tables over and not using a makeshift whip to chase them out

[@MindOfGenius]

What's that one joke again? "When you ask yourself 'What Would Jesus Do', remember that driving non-believers out of his place of worship with a whip was certainly something he did."

[@Dominic-o3k]

@@aubreypressley1450 Probably depends on the type.

[@Llortnerof]

Didn't speak out against those in power, never overturned a table in a temple, didn't die for his beliefs...

[@dayegilharno4988]

He's the GOAT, considering the size of his self-identifying followership... If only his "followers" followed his teachings :(

[@paulpease8254]

Thank you for your insights and moral fortitude. When the people boasting about their own righteousness behave in despicable ways, it’s not always easy to cast yourself among those viewed as evil because you aren’t willing to join them in their despicable behavior.

[@MorbiusBlueBalls]

one thing i realised is that it was never about jesus and his teachings, it was all about politics and social religious identity

[@carpo719]

It always has been for these people

[@JasonTaylor90210]

No, it was about God's narcissisism and his manipulative control and his unrealistic standards. Duh. Have you even read the Bible? Jesus fucking Christ.

[@theblacklagoon]

ding ding

[@kimkardashianjong-un6299]

🎯

[@Tvngsten]

Do they even read the bible? I mean, actually read and think about what they read, and not just say the words in their head while thinking of something else.

[@Abocreature]

"Those groups aren't inherently political, they're made political by people who want to enact political policy against them" I'm a transwoman. I have family members who are hardline MAGA. So many times I've been told in my conversations at gatherings 'don't be political' or 'don't talk politics'. And then they ask me how things are going. How my life is going. These people have made my life politics, then complain when I talk about my life. These people don't understand that the ability to be apolitical is a privilege afforded to those who haven't been made pawns in political games. I've only ever wanted to live my life and find happiness, and for the crime of exercising those rights we have declared belong to all people I must now watch in horror as everything that protected me is being stripped away by those who claim themselves to follow the man who showed compassion and mercy to migrants and prostitutes and lepers.

[@ithinkiknowme6450]

I'm so sorry for all this, sister.🫂

[@EcstasyEevee]

Be careful Hun shit is getting bad fast

[@tinyclover3849]

i've grown to hate the phrase "making things political" because borderline every social issue we have is political. people only point out something is "political" when they disagree with, and yet those people will make politics a huge part of their personality unknowingly but pretend they aren't doing that simply because it's the norm around their circles. it's top tier level projection. i'm really sorry for you and all other LGBTQ+ people who've been victim of the narrative that their life is inherently political and that's somehow a bad thing.

[@bigboxofstuff]

My sister's youngest is nonbinary and everyone, EVERYONE, in the house uses the dead name (Lizzy, Elizabeth, etc.) and I just want to tell them I am so sorry that her dad voted for trump and her mom likely did too, I don't know how to reach out to them and tell them they are seen and their parents should truly know better just from the experience they have seen them go through. (sadly this has been the most correct pronouns I think anyone has use for them in the family just in this paragraph.) I had to fight from typing she/her this whole time just because I am the only one that has really ever called them Eli, and I know that's what they go by at school as it's written on their lunch bag everyday. I don't think this made me seem like a good ally but I really do understand their want to not be labeled something different then how they feel, I just go with the flow of the rest of the family and that's on me. But hopefully typing this will open my mind up for a little more acknowledgement for them. Sorry if this strayed from what you were trying to get across, as I think transitioning is something each person has to decide on their own, not force on those that feel the need to stop them. It's your life, live like you want to live! I emotionally support you in that as well as with my vote, not that it did any good this time around, but maybe, just maybe trump will open enough people's eyes they will see that the status quo is not so quo anymore and something has got to give and trump was not the right direction. (I'm looking at you Democrats/Independents.) Anyway I hope you stay safe and are able to live out and open.

[@fu5ha_edits]

​@@bigboxofstuff just quietly and without ceremony respecting them is one of the most powerful things you can do. Use the pronouns they prefer when possible and try to make it as not-a-big-deal as possible, including trying not to fight others about it but being resolute. It will make a difference. Good luck to you and them

[@PonyCordero]

I grew up Christian and yet our atheist boy out here giving one of the best sermon's I've ever heard. Literally just rephrase from "You faith tells you..." to "Our faith calls us..." and you could take this to the pulpit.

[@blackbird7781]

This is yhe 3rd sermon given by an atheist I have seen all week and they are all very high wuality compared to many christian sermons....

[@opinion3742]

All he is doing is explaining to hypocrites what the actual teaching says.

[@julianjaynes67]

@@opinion3742 Funnily enough that is what a pastor is supposed to do.

[@opinion3742]

@ And which a good many do - I presume. There is good and bad in all walks of life. Interesting name you got there. Any relation to the American psychologist?

[@julianjaynes67]

@ Funnily enough, no relation. Just a happy coincidence.

[@VioletRM]

It is so refreshing to hear someone with a platform so eloquently speak of LGBT in the current political landscape, especially an ally. Thank you

[@MattGreerMusic]

I'm really glad you chose to speak out on this. The hypocrisy of these people is astounding.

[@freedomfighter4990]

Yes. And a cogent response from someone like DarkMatter, an atheist, is far more meaningful to regular Janes & Joes.

[@Tiptoe6927]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/in7QpGV6f7Nja5Y ^ In the URL above, a link to YOUR video: A Bible Story Snagged from Older Gods - By DarkMatter 2525 The purpose of the unuma Alish which the Babylonians read every Babylonian new year was to point out the fact that the deities and there's countless deities in the Pantheon they actually come from the created order so they're not outside of time and space. They actually come from the created order and when they die in this battle right when teamot is defeated, the defeated God become the earth and the sky and the the plants and even you and me and in that sense the theme is that you don't actually have any purpose or end result and you're not created in the image of God. In fact in the ancient Babylonian system only the kings were created in the image of God, and what we see that is counter to that is that even sure they're superficial you know "divided the waters" but we find that in almost every you society and culture that's not that's not a parallel as much as just a generality. I would say what we see within the biblical account is that God purposefully creates, there's only one God, he purposefully creates, and then he creates and it's good and it continues to say it's good seven times and then at the end of chapter one just for, you know the thick people in the original audience it says and then it was very good and then he creates Humanity, not Kings but simply the humans that he creates in God's image and they have purpose and meaning and that instills them with this creation order and that's not what we find in the unuma Alish. In fact we find the opposite in the unuma Alish is that the created order is not good, it's a mistake, and that you are not created in the image of God and there's a reminder that regular people are not created in the image of God. -Wes Huff STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION!

[@Nightstormshadow1]

Its the fact they turned so far from what they call their God that they think their God is too "woke"

[@carpo719]

Woke Jesus is a wild thing. 😂

[@kayzaac]

Jesus told his followers to "stay awake", literally and figuratively.

[@EdwardHowton]

How could their turn away from what they call God when _they invented their own God out of their own prejudices and hatreds to begin with?_ None of those -people- know what the bible says, none of them know a single damn thing about 'Yahweh'. God is just an externalization of their own opinions. If _they_ hate charity, that's just an opinion, but if they say they have a magic invisible space wizard friend who hates charity, that makes their opinion "justified". They're "christians" in the sense that 1. there's not actually any such thing as a christian because it's literally impossible to follow all the rules that would make someone BE a christian and 2. the standard for being a christian is to just call yourself one without any further work or effort involved. "God" is _their own opinions._ The only way they could turn away from god is if they became better people. Like that's ever gonna happen.

[@zhanucong4614]

@@kayzaac i know what you mean but as christian let me explain the meaning behind this,it wasnt just to not fall a sleep but to not sin,when he showed us pray it lasted a hour and it is a communion with God and that gives us strenght to not fall a sleep or sin

[@furrr-f9c]

Neither Christian nor American, but I still needed this. The world needs this. Thank you ❤

[@Bagel12321]

these same "Christians" won't help others because "God will help them" while conveniently forgetting that God works through Christians to help people.

[@mediadunce653]

The MAGA Christians aren't the reason I left the Church, but God dang do they do a good job convincing me I was right to leave.

[@matthewlawton9241]

The MAGA christians made me want to leave the church. "God's" unwillingness to do something about the demons co-opting his testament is what actually made me leave. No just deity would allow this vile blasphemy to go unchallenged. I do not know if there be gods or not, for sure, but I do know the Christian god is an absentee father who cares nothing for this world or its problems. And that's not a being I can get behind.

[@StalwartPikeman]

Same. I lost my religion in 2007, and holy hell have the Christians gotten so much worse in 17 years.

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

They make me wanna leave it now. I still believe in God and believe Jesus sacrificed himself for us. I believe in Christ, but I’m not sure I believe in Christians.

[@StalwartPikeman]

@@SOBEKCrocodileGod If you still believe, look for a liberal church / denomination. I have friends who belong to liberal churches that are full of sane people who actually love their neighbors.

[@zhanucong4614]

@@matthewlawton9241 as a sda i will explain whats going on,it literaly den of dragons ak a demons andthat happens when Jesus leaves the church,we are at the end times and satan is gathering people against real Christians,allowed fires to punish sinners like in la and sodman and gamora,he could have easily forced a rain and it would saved many if not all,he is even preparing his people to leave cities to not be affected by forced worship or th great depression bc after all he promised bread and water

[@Zuilo23]

As a Christian, I appreciate videos like this. It's insamely frustrating to see people use a label that's supposed to be one of love to attack others. A lot of these people also don't realize they're the reason so many people today are just outright rejecting Christianity. We're supposed to be God's children and live our lives as examples of his love and compassion.

[@NA-vz9ko]

That’s your opinion. But the Christians in power think we’re supposed to enact god’s terrible wrath upon the downtrodden and the outcast. I’m just here saying all religion is untrue.

[@LukeSumIpsePatremTe]

There's a reason they are called sheep in the bible. Follow the leader and don't think.

[@Kinessmata-Akkadian]

I myself am an atheist, but I do remember going to church and such as a young child. And I definitely remember loosely that Christians are suppose to be loving to everyone, no matter how "wicked and sinful" they may be. But Christians like those condemning Bishop Budde are not real Christians in my eyes.

[@_.soymilk]

@@Kinessmata-Akkadianas someone who also grew up in church but is an atheist, I will say there were many parts of bible I learned where actions of God honestly seemed quite cruel to me. However, the overarching theme of Christianity as I was taught was kindness, understanding, mercy, forgiveness and overall good values. Imo this is the problem with religion. People interpret their religion/ religious scriptures however they want, and thus use it to justify their beliefs and actions. Many of these right-winged “Christians” seemed to have taken the most cruel aspects from the bible and ran with it, justifying their white supremacy, hatred, etc.

[@koichidignitythief7429]

@@Kinessmata-Akkadian Oh they're real Christians. Christians have been like this for centuries. There's none of that No True Scotsman stuff about it. Christianity is a two-faced hypocritical culture.

[@Jeff-yw8kg]

As a former Christian, who went to Bible college and got a degree in biblical interpretation, this is one of the best sermons I've ever heard.

[@TerribleTom113]

I expected they would just ignore Pastor Budde. That the message of "love thy neighbor" would just be in one ear and out the other. They've been ignoring basic Christian ethics since 2016, so I figured the message just wouldn't even be acknowledged. Seeing them actively go on a crusade of hate and denuciation AGAINST Christian ethics is surprising. It's always been about hate, but to now see them actively preach hate in explict terms IN RESPONSE to a Christian plea for mercy and kindess is wild.

[@donaldmach3373]

Agreed. I'd have never imagined that they'd openly attack a christian bishop for asking their cult leader to be more Christ like. Cons are insane, and it shows.

[@DyllinWithIt]

Those of evil often scream when hearing the truth, it's happened plenty of times in the Bible, which they don't read at all. It's not surprising, it just identifies them for what they unfortunately are.

[@lapetitecerise4458]

It’s crazy how these people think Trump is their God more than the God they claim to believe in.

[@JasonTaylor90210]

What's the difference? They're both narcissists! 😂

[@ryangarrard3135]

Its a way to stay in their hatred

[@josiechaney9010]

I think their god is actually Yaldabaoth. Kinda orangey and a snake at its base.

[@zerotwo7319]

Because they are just Romans trying to get a new emperor

[@sunvinn]

Reminds me of that one man praying for Trump to save him

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

"Which version of the Bible does she hold?" One without the misprints running rampant in conservative circles, where Jesus washes the feet of the money changers at the temple and takes orders for bagels and coffee.

[@Rauruatreides]

Many of them love the King James Version, which has been proven to have overt political changes, such as removing "beware tyrants" with "beware the terrible."

[@billyjoejimbob75]

Whichever version it is, it's probably right side up.

[@rataflechera]

- “One that includes Matthew 25:31-46. Doesn't yours?”

[@LD-2401]

@@RauruatreidesBut the Bible also says God puts the powers that be in place? So is that a contradiction or a misprint?

[@Rauruatreides]

@LD-2401 that is simply a statement that authority exists for a purpose, though that doesn't indicate they are good (example, the Assyrians). The mistranslation quote hid the idea that we should beware tyrants in an effort to make people less willing to oppose the King in any way.

[@Sirhaian]

Thanks for making such an important video. Appreciate how well-spoken and eloquent you are, as well!

[@dnaidentheperson6497]

This demonstrates how, for many people, religion does not exist as a means of understanding the nature of the world or mankind but rather as a tool to make their personal beliefs inherent and absolute or to consolidate power. They care not for the actual word of their God, for he is just a placeholder for themselves.

[@norabdrab4391]

Bro, I cannot tell you how helpful your videos have been to me. I'm a former pastor and church planter. I believe none of that Christian nonsense anymore! Your animations, even the ones from over 12 years ago got me to see the lunacy of it all.

[@XiauWuhan]

how is it lunacy? taking out of context verses? please tell me what “lunacy”

[@norabdrab4391]

@XiauWuhan the lunacy became evident when I decided to focus my energy on learning more about Jesus. I had noticed that my preaching focused mostly on Paul. I began preaching through Mark's gospel. In order to do thst faithfully I had to study the text in its original context, which happens to be first century Judaism. Thar led me to study Judaism at the same time. What I discovered is though Christians claim their roots from Judaism, the two are diametrically oppossed. Very few Jews could stomach what Paul was teaching. No wobder he had to go to the gentiles. No self-respecting Jew would abandon Torah. Jesus himself didnt.

[@OmegaRick]

You're one of the few I see standing up to all this hypocritical BS. Thanks for keeping me sane

[@coffeebux]

not just standing up against it - hes slamming down a shield.

[@JasonTaylor90210]

He's not the only one...

[@OmegaRick]

​@@JasonTaylor90210didn't say he was, work on your reading comprehension

[@opinion3742]

I would like to think that most people stand up to hypocrisy. But most people it seems are too stupid or lazy to know when they are being had.

[@OmegaRick]

​​@@opinion3742Seems that most either don't care, rationalize or support it. We need way more people picking it apart and highlighting it.

[@Last4xis]

This video has been a good reminder as to why I've kept my faith but stayed far from church. You share my same thoughts on the Pharisees and how much of modern day Christianity has turned into something resembling their practices. Shilling a meme coin using the faith as a platform was done so unabashedly that I should be more disgusted than sad. Thank you for sharing this video. Perspective is always healthy.

[@attilandfan]

You've probably been told this before, but I'd recommend you go to church! The best way to stay strong in your faith is to have a support system of other believers encouraging and testing each other. There are plenty of resources online to find liberal/LGBT accepting churches, so unless you're in a really conservative area you should find a Christlike community that shares your values (Admittedly I've been struggling with attending regularly so I could use this advice too lol)

[@zhanucong4614]

@@attilandfan what do you mean by accepting lgbt churches,to say that you are lgbt is to to openly say that you are okay with your sins and wont change,santification and tribulation keeps us from sinning not you forcefully trying to be straight,second of all church that you pick should rebadtise you because some dont explain what badtism is,badtism is declaring to everyone that you are christian and are responsible for the name their carry since being a bad Christian is breaking the commandment of not taking The Gods name in vain,samuel 25 25 whats your name is who you are and Gods name is love and love is keeping of all ten commandments including sabbath and not taking Gods name in vain

[@Ashy_Slashy3]

​@@zhanucong4614 abrahamic religions are mythology

[@PeterHowe228]

If hypocrisy was jaundice, Conservative Christians would be Simpsons' characters.

[@josiechaney9010]

🎯😄

[@rokaq5163]

Aside from the pigmentation, some already are, in account of their cartoonish behaviour

[@shjoed]

Funny, darknatter is an atheist, I'm a Christian, we both see these people through the same eyes.

[@cedricburkhart3738]

I'm an atheist I ges. What kind of christen are you? I'm sorry of that question sounds rude but mostly people who have the name Christian in America mostly support trump right now.🤷

[@Lastman1900]

There may be a universal moral law after all 🙂 and no atheist hates Jesus as a person we actually love him because he was generous man but not organised Religion.

[@XiauWuhan]

this guys video is mockery at its finest, you shouldn’t agree with him. have a good day.

[@Lastman1900]

@@XiauWuhan OK 👿

[@cedricburkhart3738]

@@Lastman1900 Yeah but I don't think I love Jesus and I'm an atheist so🤷

[@Kaylakaze]

That Lorenzo guy should not be able to go anywhere without being spat upon.

[@dewardroy6531]

Lorenzo just took a steamer on his own name.

[@immortal2u]

Shill, suck up, flatterer.

[@ThisguySL]

Might as well happen. He clearly already uses Trump's "golden age" when he showers in the morning if you catch my drift...

[@bisurker]

I thought it was freakin gross. Seriously, how much of a sellout and pick me can one person be? Hello! You know MLK Jr. would have absolutely, unambiguously, hated Trump and everything he represents, and would likely have considered his existence in politics his own personal failure for not fighting hard enough.

[@coffeebux]

hed charge people 5 bucks to do it

[@theitineranthistorian2024]

I'll take heretics over hypocrites everytime. Runaway from the religious authority.

[@sbushido5547]

Pretending to be persecuted is probably the only way they can justify their abhorrent beliefs/actions. Even if that """persecution""" takes the form of a simple plea for compassion. _"How dare you ask us to act like decent human beings?!!!"_

[@JasonTaylor90210]

What evidence do you have that they are pretending? 🤔 😂

[@sbushido5547]

@@JasonTaylor90210 Because they're not being persecuted, they're the ones cheering on the persecution of others. Obviously.

[@JasonTaylor90210]

@sbushido5547 It wasn't a literal question.

[@sassyviking6003]

​@@JasonTaylor90210 they are literally the dominant power group. My brother in christ, they hold all 3 branches of government... in what possible way are they *NOT* pretending?

[@ThisguySL]

Whatever doubt I had that mediocrity is *THE* goal for MAGA is long gone. They were pretenders to begin with, and enacting that goal would make it that much easier for them to pretend they're unfairly treated and that they deserve better.

[@rusoplatense]

You might just be the best example of positive masculinity there is. You are strong, you are stern, you are serious; but you are also compassionate, understanding and uplifting. Perfect demonstration of what strength should be used for: Protecting others

[@ARoll925]

Imagine being so hateful that you found a sermon such as that not good, unbelievable, kudos to that lady for having such courage to stand up to a fascist

[@saturnhex9855]

@@thedaijal ???

[@nondescriptcat5620]

@@thedaijal Imagine being so deluded that you think we should give a fuck what you think about anything.

[@ThisguySL]

"Why did she praise Jesus and not Trump? Doesn't she know that'll remind us how full of shit we are somehow?!" ~Literally all of MAGA in response to this.

[@dudebarker9268]

@@ThisguySLBingo

[@dudebarker9268]

@@thedaijalImagine being a bot , or a pathetic incel with no life 😎🫵

[@Manicpaniczone]

Thank you for having these discussions. It's so helpful to me to have this as an outlet. I tried to open a dialogue with my father using this, but it was fruitless. He will never budge from concluding 'theres nothing he can do but be sad because he knows what happens to unbelievers' sigh. It's exhausting. Anyway, thank you for creating this space here. Sometimes I feel like I would go crazy without it.

[@vivianriver6450]

We are witnessing the birth of a new religion. These people call themselves Christians, but the Christ that they claim to worship is foreign to those who worship a loving, merciful god. This is not a god who loves immigrants, who loves the indigent and sick. This is a god of war and power and narcissism, given the name of a god of love. Perhaps we could call him "Supply Side Jesus".

[@checking_out666]

On the contrary, this is what Christians have always been. They’re just being emboldened. Whatever “good” Christians are out there should denounce their faith. The cross is just a symbol of hatred.

[@nondescriptcat5620]

let's be real, america was founded on _that_ religion centuries ago. the kind of christianity that justified slavery.

[@DrakeTimbershaft]

That’s exactly the name Al Franken used in his book, “Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them.”

[@vivianriver6450]

@@DrakeTimbershaft I've heard the name "Supply Side Jesus" many times. It is not my original idea.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

Their god has always been an ancient war god. There were just Christians who insisted on seeing the less violent side of things. I mean read the Bible seriously, there's so much fucking conquest and death and demands for blood sacrifice. Old testament, New testament, into Revelations which supposedly predicts the future, throughout Christian history with the crusades. Their god seriously reminds me of Warhammer's Khorne, "blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne" "Khorne cares not from where the blood flows as long as it is spilled"

[@SlashCash29]

I was literally thinking to myself this morning "I wonder when darkmatter is gonna post again?"

[@gfoog3911]

Nothing like a darkmatter video timing itself perfectly to my bathroom break

[@furrr-f9c]

I'm actually worried about your health if your bathroom breaks take an hour. Like, what are you eating bro 😅

It makes sense that your bathroom break would be this long if you have to wait for another video until you can go again

[@PersonOfGratitude]

Lunch Break for me! 🥪

[@HelloHamburger]

​@@furrr-f9cTheir bathroom break doesn't necessarily have to be that long but their bathroom break happened just after upload.

[@klubberzvonhatzenbuhl563]

@@furrr-f9c- His legs are gonna go numb.

[@acmcgowan3454]

that was the best sermon I heard since I left the church 15 years ago great video.👍🏾

[@Kaylakaze]

I'm REALLY getting sick of KZbin's random comment deletion policies. There's no way to even tell what will get a comment deleted.

[@thedaijal]

You and me, both.

[@Finnatese]

It’s simple really, there’s a few obvious rules that violate YT policy 1. Attacking marginalised groups, such as straights, whites, Christian’s, men. Too long have these people had their voices silenced but no more! 2. Do not offend the oligarchs. Billionaires have feelings too. *this is satire

[@fredbarnesjr.1044]

It’s run by far right trumpers and Elon worshippers

[@Kaylakaze]

@ It's sad that you had to point out that it was satire.

[@ianwestc]

@@Finnatese God damn, dude, you had me for about.. 2 seconds. Because I have personally seen quite a few people with that exact view. Poe's Law is in full force, there are so many people who DO hold those views that unless someone says it's satire, it's hard to tell whether satire is real or not (You got me with point 1, I've seen point 2 expressed, but not so blatantly)

[@NeighborhoodOfBlue]

Like a freestyle rapper, the pastor at his inauguration hadn't an original word to throw. He borrowed from men far greater than himself, weaving together a tapestry that licked the boots of fascism while elevating himself. Then he launched a crypto coin, fleeced people for 4million and called the real pastor a heretic?

[@josiechaney9010]

With tap shoes. Sorry. :/

[@ryangarrard3135]

A dancing clown reaping filthy lucre

[@lefishe5845]

There has been no better time in human history to be a con artist.

[@kellydalstok8900]

Calling the other pastor arrogant when he himself is almost as arrogant as Donald, with that bombastic performative “sermon”.

[@sivalley]

MLK was ashamed to be black that day. That 'reverend' took his most famous words and spat in MLK's face.

[@furrr-f9c]

0:38 "Being kind got us into this mess" 😂😂😂😂

[@CaptainObvious0000]

"love your neighbour as you love yourself, but only on thursdays between 4:00 and 4:10 a.m., otherwise you'll get yourself into a big mess" - jebus crust, 30 anno domino's

[@ohmisterjeff]

You spelled "ammo" wrong​@@CaptainObvious0000

[@kylegonewild]

I guess bitching and complaining and shitting on the floor the entire way is being nice.

[@furrr-f9c]

@@CaptainObvious0000 Sounds like a very strange Gremlins reboot.

[@idontcare1102]

That's the America (US) I know!

[@TheJeceda]

I am not Christian myself, but the kind of hypocracy that you're expertly pointing out has always baffled me. I've read enough of the Bible to know that it speaks about helping the poor, taking foreigners in, and loving thy neighbor, etc. And to see people claim to be Christian but act the way they do, it really seems obvious that they don't actually follow the teachings of the Bible / Jesus at all. They just say they are Christians for money and clout essentially, and it's gross when so many people are scared and hurting. Thank you for talking about this, and I really appreciated the way you looked at every angle. People like you are who we need in this country, and who we need talking about these things now more than ever!

[@quefreemind5698]

That was a disgrace the black preachers everywhere. He was performing using the same energy and antics of every black preacher ( nothing wrong with that), but using god to scam people and prop up a racist, fascist is just disgusting. Putting dirt on King's name.

[@freedomfighter4990]

No, there IS something wrong when Black preachers across the country all get up & do an MLK performance when they preach. All Blackfolks don't have the same speech patterns. But too many pastors feel they have to mine King's tone & timbre & cadence. Preaching the gospel should be about a pastor speaking from his heart & being true to himself & the way he normally speaks. I wish more Blackfolks would stop acting like church isn't church unless a performative pastor puts on an MLK imitator show on Sundays.

[@quefreemind5698]

@ yea you are right. I was just saying it isn't a typical.

[@Isaac7913392]

Hey literally scamed people with crypto, he got hired because those well appreciated abilities for trump

[@JRandaII]

Hypocrisy is a form of control. Religious hypocrisy is not a bug, it’s a feature. The MAIN feature. Rules for thee, but not for me.

[@opinion3742]

Are you saying that hypocrisy is the main feature of religion? Based on what information?

[@notanonymous3976]

​@@opinion3742based on facts and logic. ok im just joking sorry 😅

[@mydnytdeath]

​@@opinion3742 Hypocrisy is saying one thing and doing another. There are hundreds of years of examples of Christians being hypocrites.

[@emporioalnino4670]

​@@opinion3742 Based on the actions and words of every religious person ever.

[@opinion3742]

@ MLk?

[@roboticski]

Haha I have been watching DarkMatter since the beginning mind you, am a Christian but I never thought I would ever see DarkMatter become more "Christian" (qoute Jesus) than traditional Christians. I have been waiting for this Video. Thanks man

[@immortal2u]

Not necessarily more “Christian,” but possessed of more humanity. It’s funny how when you contrast reasonable, kind, and compassionate against its counterpart, the light of truth reveals the flaws and failures of lip service.

[@EdwardHowton]

@@immortal2u You're hitting a language barrier, here. He's a christian, so when he says "more christian" he means "a good person". One of the big differences is that christians think being a good christian is the same thing as being a good person, when in fact if you want to be a good person you have to be a bad christian. So it seems like you're saying different things, but you're actually completely in agreement. Roboticski just doesn't understand what he's saying sounds like to a real person. They're speaking Theistspeak, you're speaking English. They look the same, but their meanings are diametrically opposed.

[@roboticski]

@EdwardHowton Flat out wrong! I don't believe people are naturally good! Everyone has the ability of both good and evil (with varying dispositions). And the core of Jesus' teaching was love others and be good to Everyone. Christians should be followings of Christ, i.e do what Jesus would do. Even though DarkMatter is not a following of Christ he still uphold the core value of "loving others" unlike many so called following of Christ, hence more "Christian"

[@Barakon]

Makes me wonder if they just worship trump instead. Ain’t the first time someone worshipped a president as their idol.

[@Void100-v3x]

Who was the other one?

[@Barakon]

@Void100-v3x Plenty of other politicucks do that shit. Especially politicized boomers.

[@Roonayy]

@Void100-v3x They're probably referring to Ronald Reagan.

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

That’s exactly what they do. I saw a guy interviewed on the news who keeps a cardboard cutout of Trump and prays to him every morning. I wish I was making that shit up.

[@cdlahm7571]

11:01 The preacher who started a crypto scheme grandstanding about heresy lol

[@EdwardHowton]

**flips tables** You money-lenders, get out of my temple! How dare you turn my temple into a marketplace! It's MY marketplace Haywatsup it'syaboi Jesus comin' ATCHOO with GodeCoin(tm)!

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

I feel like I’m living in a South Park episode lmao

[@jediknight2341]

As a bisexual who is currently transitioning to be a trans girl it makes me feel better knowing there are people like you out there Hun thank you 🙏❤️💙

[@screw_a_username7491]

Go girl!! 🗣🗣🔥🔥‼️‼️

[@LD-2401]

I heard LL Bean is a good place to buy transition clothes. Just incase you needed to know that.

[@husseinmohammed8654]

🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈☮️🤍

[@memecity9849]

Thats because Christianity is great in theory but not so great in practice. You actually have to care about people

[@thedaijal]

It's not even great in theory. According to Christianity, if you don't bow to Jesus Christ, you go to hell for all eternity. If Jesus Christ is real, Anne Frank is burning in Hell. Doesn't sound very loving to me.

[@CaptainObvious0000]

I love my enemies, but it sometimes leads to awkward situations when they ask for my liver at gunpoint.

[@Jacadarr]

@@CaptainObvious0000hate it when that happens

[@immortal2u]

For a lot of people calling themselves “Christian” is a way to self identify as the “good” person everyone wants to believe they are. The truth is it’s more heritage than belief. They aren’t invested enough in it to familiarise themselves with Christ’s message (let alone be inspired by his example), anymore than they invest in or familiarise themselves with the candidates they vote for.

[@ianwestc]

@@immortal2u For them, Christianity is a way to be tribal. It's not truly a way of thinking.

[@stephenpaulson5242]

Preach on, DM! You are a voice of reason in this darkness we now find ourselves. You have a viewer for life. Thanks.

[@umaiar]

Bishop: Just be good to people Maggots: No!

[@opinion3742]

Magats. Nice one.

[@munkeefinkelbeen5395]

"Why don't you welcome them into your home?!" My Christian family did... he was an incredible man. He and my cousin fell in love and had children together. Wherever he is in the world, I absolutely wish him well

[@xryeau_1760]

Massive W

[@Xelger]

I would like to add that I am watching this while newly hospitalized because of the campaign promise of making controlled substances illegal having been made law. I have never used any drugs that weren't doctor-prescribed in my life, but one of my prescriptions is a controlled substance that I had to show my ID at the pharmacy to get. I am hospitalized because I no longer have it.

[@freedomfighter4990]

Wait, what? What state are you in that you weren't able to fill an Rx for a legal controlled substance? Was it a narcotic or mife miso?

[@carpo719]

That's been an ongoing thing for quite a while now

[@freedomfighter4990]

@@carpo719 I can't see the 2 prior comments so I don't know what was said. I sincerely hope @Xelger isn't someone in a state where she can't get mife miso.

[@sharimeline3077]

This is why it's impossible to reason with them. Don't try. Stop fighting with them online (and this goes for me, most of all), and realize it's a waste. They think mercy and kindness are "nasty." They have been calling Budde a Satanist and evil. We can never reconcile as long as they are that far gone. Put your energy into something that helps other people instead.