Christina Hoff Sommers: Schools Are Hostile to Boys' Instincts

[@DadSavesAmerica]

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[@secretbassrigs]

google is so evil

[@michaelhoudecki3657]

28:19 NO, just NO. Masculinity, is NOT violence. Violence is violence. Men are protectors, so those violent men are doing too much protection? NO.

[@michaelhoudecki3657]

@@secretbassrigs par for the course. look at mine, will it still be here by the next time you log in? Nobody knowssss

[@michaelhoudecki3657]

@@secretbassrigs both of mine too.

[@secretbassrigs]

@@michaelhoudecki3657 well I said a lot that was worth hearing in those comments. As if the panicked over reaching and unwarranted censorship in 2022, "requested" under false pretenses by the Biden/Kamala Administration, should be expected to continue repeating this year without public concern. Because the truth is much more fundamental, yet much more nefarious than covering up a laptop that possibly documented the greatest corruption in known Whitehouse history. My comments related to the overall timing of critical events and how they all very logically sequentially resulted from one previous event. An event that had many short term remedies and solutions for a very troubled, very powerful, yet relatively small, exclusive and secretive group of people ultimately responsible from the very beginning. My comment that did make it, that you replied to, was vague and generalized enough to protect and hd accountable no one.

[@Freight_Train]

I'm a man and I taught Art in an elementary school for 20 years. I almost never had any difficulty with the boys in my classes because I could identify a restless boy versus a boy who is trying to disrupt. I would give the restless boys tasks to do to help so they were not sitting too long. I let all students get their own materials and clean up for the most part so they could move about and utilize their physical energy. The homeroom teachers and the administration would provoke restless boys until they became angry and then they would kick them out of the school for acting out. When I tried to point this out to the admin, they turned on me and began giving me low performance scores.

[@michaelhoudecki3657]

That's disgusting. They seem to hate boys, want them to fail. They wear shirts "the future is female" Yeah, if you sabotage the boys. And it won't be great, for obvious reasons.

[@DadSavesAmerica]

Mom substitute taught art classes, and has a degree in art education, and she would have the best behavior and relationship with the “bad boys” because she was awesome and treated them like individuals rather than have a “problem” Scarlett letter on day one. Typical school and the mentality running it just plain sucks for boys.

[@Freight_Train]

@@DadSavesAmerica That's a rare teacher, but I'm glad they had her. You should hear what "problems" were always brought up in school-wide teacher meetings--always the boys. Thanks for posting this video to get the info out.

[@michaelhoudecki3657]

why keep disappearing?

[@Freight_Train]

@@michaelhoudecki3657 ???

[@briancrn113]

The best thing I ever did for my sons was to pull them out of public school and homeschool them. Once I shed the worry about if we were good enough and what people may think, a flourishing occurred. They became strong, healthy, intelligent, hard working, well respected men who act like men in the best sense of the term. Were we to to this over, they NEVER would have stepped foot in a school. Homeschool if you can. It's not without challenges but it is much easier than many believe. It feels right in the same way going for a hike in nature feels right compared to sitting in a cubicle. We DONT have to live the way the system wants us to.

[@pukeachu]

Now your sons have a deified view of Vox Dey, instead of elevating I.X. Kendy to sainthood

[@rih128]

Bless you!

[@lisaroper421]

Hi five! 🖐

[@felixmidas2020]

@@pukeachu What?

[@neomacchio4692]

@@felixmidas2020+1 😂

[@andreakumar2984]

As a teacher, I had no problem with the boys and how they played/teased. But administration (including older male admin) would get on me about allowing them to be that way. To them that always looked “out of control, too loud, etc”. Once I got in trouble for promising the boys 10 mins of outside time as a reward if they did certain tasks through the week. I was called in and got in trouble for taking 10 minutes away from Math time and turning it into outside time. It was also explained to me that if someone got a bloody nose or got hurt in a class other than PE, we wouldn’t have anything to stand on to a possible complaining parent. These sorts of things take the wind out of your sails as a teacher.

[@lopa-u9f]

that's because you're more a herding handler than a teacher

[@nimblehuman]

You're no longer there to teach them, to these ideologues you're only there to indoctrinate them into a role of enforced servility.

[@myisglim7801]

I can see why that would be an issue, you can’t give an inventive to those who won’t do what they should without an incentive. While there’s others who are always on task.

[@smelltheglove2038]

Here's the thing, you guys(teachers in general) go along to get along rather than stand-up to this nonsense. My kid is in 7th grade, every teacher had told me the common core curriculum is nonsensical, yet not a one will stand up and do something. How can you do something for years that you don't believe in? Do have any self worth?

[@gentlemanvontweed7147]

​@@smelltheglove2038No, we don't. Self worth was hammered out of us through endless beaurocracy and disciplinary hearings.

[@bradwalton3977]

Throughout almost all history, boys and girls were educated separately. That idea needs to be revisited.

[@Robert_Westwood]

I understand your point, but the reasoning of the 14th Amendment used in Brown v Board of Education would eventually be used to make a case that sex/gender segregated schools are inherently unequal...

[@Fisheye-y1w]

@@Robert_Westwoodtbh i find it funny that having segregated schools for different genders is inequal as if they try to say that both their lives are the same.

[@JM-bb8xi]

Ummmm lost me at return to seperate but equal.

[@Kudrog-v9j]

Except we are actually different, you dont educate dogs and cats the same way, its the same here. Young boys are being left behind on the insistence of “equal” treatment

[@bradwalton3977]

@@Kudrog-v9j Yes, I know. That is what I am saying.

[@BillNye-n2k]

I couldn’t stand government school. It felt like I was being punished for being a young man. I dropped out and went to tech school and my life instantly improved tremendously.

[@steve3131]

"It felt like I was being punished for being a young man." You were.

[@Kevin_Knox]

Yep, because all of this really about "getting even".

[@lukas-jp9cj]

I changed to a technical High School,... It changed from the worst to the best time of my life!

[@Havre_Chithra]

I was too young to understand what was going on until an adult. I remember feeling like girls were highly favoured compared to boys at school and it was clear to me that boys were not doing as well and did not get as much support. My teachers were all 60s and 70s kids, feminist, John Lennon, hippie-types. It all makes sense now.

[@keredeht]

Boys are being hijacked because the women that run these institutions are rigging the system against them INTENTIONALLY. If you think this is an accident, you are delusional. Males outperform women in most categories, so this is being done to decrease the long term performance of men compared to women... Feminists initially thought that if you evened the playing field, men and women would end up with similar outcomes, but this has proven to be untrue, so now they are sabotaging males in an attempt to end up with more similar outcomes, and it is EVIL.

[@gg_rider]

Oh Yoko.

[@BG-mh6pc]

My son is in 2nd grade and being bullied by a girl on the playground. She has stomped on his fingers, his ankle, pushed him, and laughed at him when he fell. He dreads playtime. I’ve asked him if he’s told the playground aide and his response is “yes and she just tells me to stop tattling, I’m fine.” He won’t tell me the name, grade, or physical appearance of the girl so I can report the issue on the playground. He’s terrified if he tells the principal, she’ll be even meaner to him. Even at his age, he knows she’ll face zero consequences. If the tables were turned, I have zero doubt my son would be suspended for the behavior. But since he’s a boy and she’s a girl, he’s expected to tolerate the abuse. It’s disgusting.

[@savannalilly6547]

Interestingly, two years ago when my son was in second grade, we had the exact reverse happen with one of his little friends. She was getting bullied terribly by a little boy, and the school wouldn't do anything, so the parents eventually took her out and put her in catholic school. In our school system there is this weird focus on not saying mean things. So if someone says something mean, everybody meets with the social worker, and the whole class has a session with the guidance counselor. But if you are getting physically assaulted, it's like, "don't worry about it, you'll be fine." I happen to know a principal in our school system (at a different school than my son), and our district rules (and I believe they are state wide) are that you can't even suspend a child that is under 3rd grade or less than 70 pounds. The thinking being, that they aren't able to do enough physical damage to anyone to make it worth them being suspended.

[@trottfoxx4467]

Its because of a thing called "zero tolerance policy" Short long it basically protects the bully. I HATED it when i was in school. Teachers practically get to wash their hands of any issues and its fully the kids fault. They target the victim because they dont fight back.

[@pachelbel1]

@@trottfoxx4467 I don’t understand how the zero tolerance policy protects the bully? Can you explain that a little bit? It’s supposed to be the other way around.

[@trottfoxx4467]

@@pachelbel1 Because it is just easier to take the kid who is being bullied, out. I know not only myself but lots of people my age that had this issue. Where the bully did something to the target and if the teachers ONLY saw the target doing something in retaliation, they would blame them. Regardless of history from the bully. They basically dont look at the over all record of the bully and only in the moment. Its the path of least resistance and it just makes their job easier. If the bully is smart they will find a way to get around it as they are playing offense. The target just wants to get away and isnt thinking about how to abuse this policy. It is so common and is such an issue. There is also another problem with this policy. Where if the bully IS caught. Both the bully and the target suffer the same repercussions such is ISS or detention, even expulsion. Its like if the bully can kamikaze the target. They bully can care less, the target is ruined. I was always told when I ask 'why I am being punished for something I didnt do or start' and they were aware of the issue for months. " ZERO TOLERANCE" I was even bullied by teachers with this policy. I squinted at a teacher after they squinted at me and got ISS and told that I was threatening them as a 11yo. It needs to go. I can go on if you want.

[@michaelhoudecki3657]

@@trottfoxx4467 There need to be more men in the schools. Real men - this catty crap wouldn't be happening

[@armandoacevedo6978]

Can we call the current pedagogy “toxic femininity “?

[@Orson2u]

Toxic gynocracy.

[@StoryHealer]

The term toxic femininity is something I've had on my mind a lot lately. Just googled the term, and the first result that came up was "internalized misogyny" where a woman subconsciously works to conform to the expectations of men. It always, always comes back to blaming it all on patriarchy.

[@willmercury]

​@@Orson2uThat's it. I've been using that term myself for some time now.

[@keredeht]

Boys are being hijacked because the women that run these institutions are rigging the system against them INTENTIONALLY. If you think this is an accident, you are delusional. Males outperform women in most categories, so this is being done to decrease the long term performance of men compared to women... Feminists initially thought that if you evened the playing field, men and women would end up with similar outcomes, but this has proven to be untrue, so now they are sabotaging males in an attempt to end up with more similar outcomes, and it is EVIL.

[@peaceandllov]

Asking for permission sort of answers your question

[@Dadsplain]

We need to educate the world about the terms: Misandry/Misandrists

[@AZ-697]

Absolutely. They have seized the means of production for nearly every aspect of society.

[@Republitarian-g4h]

The world will be educated once it collapses. Women ruin everything.

[@neomacchio4692]

Just as systemic racism is real: against WHITES. Sexism is real: against men Especially when looking at divorce laws and no-fault divorce. Thank God I live in FL. I still have to pay a lot to my ex who single handedly decided to abandon our family, no discussion or explanation. But the stories of other divorced men in Democrat run states are truly abysmal. Men are 5 or 10x more likely to unalive themselves because of divorce. It’s WAY HARDER for a man when his wife leaves than the other way around. This is said to be due to the war bride theory, which is that women had to move on and commit to the men that murdered their men and took over their tribe hundreds or thousands of years ago. The men would be killed and the women would be incorporated into the conquerors’ tribe. I am no expert but it rings true for me personally and I’ve witnessed it with others too. “I love you, but I’m just not IN LOVE with you anymore.

[@michaelhoudecki3657]

@@AZ-697 They've had it for decades. This is but one of their tools.

[@honestgenz4413]

​@@AZ-697How has misandry seized the means of production for society?

[@lawrencekuhn8279]

I think what people tend to forget is that psychosis begins with repression. repressing a facet of boys nature will just make it rise up in unpredictable ways.

[@lilylittlemonster5]

Just curious if you have a source cause I've never heard that. would be interested in finding out more.

[@lancewalker2595]

@@lilylittlemonster5 You've never heard the expression: "methinks the lady doth protest too much..."?

[@lawrencekuhn8279]

@@lilylittlemonster5 Well its not too complicated. Psychological theory began studying psychosis specifically with woman and how they were repressed. This is in Freud's time, his treatment of Anna O is the example I am referencing. Going forward modern psychoanalysis is based on the idea that if a person is given space to air their unconscious ideas it will allow for the flourishing of a person. This then leads to my comment which is the idea that repressions go to the unconscious level and then from there causes real problems. Bulimia is a case of this where a persons repressed ideas are causing real conscious effects.

[@retpal2302]

I'd argue that it's the effeminate programming is the cause. "We are a generation of men raised by women." Its why the single mothers tend to raise worse individuals than what comes from the nuclear home. The absence of the father. "Homosexuality is cope for fatherlessness."

[@augustmariner2431]

@@lilylittlemonster5 Cherokee parable: An old Cherokee man tells his grandson, "A fight is going on inside of me. It is a terrible fight between two wolves. One is evil - he is full of rage, jealousy, arrogance, greed, sorrow, regret, lies, laziness, and self-pity. The other is good - he is filled with love, joy, peace, generosity, truth, empathy, courage, humility, and faith. This same fight is going on inside of you, and inside every other person too." The grandson thinks about it for a moment and then asks, "Which wolf will win?" The old Cherokee replies, "The one you feed." C. Jung would most likely disagree and say beware the unfed wolf waiting in the shadows. The one that has been starved - suggesting you need to feed them both to keep them under control. C. Jung was interested in the shadow self...

[@steve3131]

I remember taking an education class because I needed the credits to graduate. That was >40 years ago. I remember that when the question was raised about teachers having sexually inappropriate relationships with students, the professor (a woman, of course) said, "If it's a man, they let him off with a slap on the wrist. If it's woman they throw the book at her" This is 180 degrees opposed to reality.

[@leedunkin3338]

I was classically male-symptomed ADHD as a child and still am to this day. My female elementary teacher despised me for it and abused me emotionally for it for 4 straight years before a coup de grace of formally not recommending me to the local prestigious middle schools where surely "neurodivergent" free thinking and creative boys flourished. I'm 38 now, destitute with a broken ladder as a result of that abusive groundwork. I hope that justice comes for her ilk of today and that boys and men like me can once again be allowed to integrate into society and flourish, from childhood on.

[@obiwankenobi661]

it just goes on to show that islam is right about women.

[@gg_rider]

I hope you can make a start in a new career that feels suitable to you. I started building computers but slowly got (mostly) self-taught in IT with helpers along the way. My friend did sales when he got out of 15 years in federal prison (drug dealing, but combined with addiction drinking and toxic women), but his sales career involved putting on a Tyvek suit to inspect sinking home foundations in Florida. I think about the heat and bugs. He ploughed huge paychecks into inexpensive rental property in the Midwest. He is retired. (I'm not.) He travels for months out of the year with his lovely older wife.

[@smelltheglove2038]

Step one is to move on and realize you can move past it. I too had a teacher in elementary school you claimed I had these symptoms. I was a little kid on amphetamines. I didn't sleep from 3rd grade to 9th grade when I absolutely refused to take the pills. I never had anything wrong with me, especially not some made up disorder. Turned out the lesson plan was just crap. Anyway, I moved on, I didn't let some event in elementary school define me. I'm fine now, have a family, etc. at 41.

[@leedunkin3338]

@@gg_rider yes i think i can do something like that, thank you. Plenty of time left haha

[@leedunkin3338]

@@smelltheglove2038 thank you that's very encouarging. Yeah I am realizing I have plenty of time and opportunity to get it all right and be great the latter half of life. I also am stil trying different medications and it may turn out like you i need to be off all of them. Thanks.

[@SkeebosGaming]

Men and women are different physically, emotionally, and physically. Males and females are created with unique roles and purposes which complements each other and of equal value.

[@XXXX-yc6wv]

The reason this is happening is that systemic and institutionalized sexism does indeed exist, but it is NOT misogyny, it is misandry.

[@DadSavesAmerica]

You’re clearly correct.

[@Zuzana1fan]

You can't enslave societies if the men are masculine! I worked in the Canadian school system for decades...wouldn't have much nice to say about it (so I won't) but I am horrified at what I am witnessing now. Thank you for having this public discussion.

[@retpal2302]

Yup. It's why the universities have become no longer a place for diversity of thought but designed to chase off and silence dissent that goes against the machine of Marxism.

[@anonz975]

Exactly. When males become effeminate foreign masculine males will take the territory. Camille Paglia talks about this and also the fact gender bending has happened during the decline of most every great civilization.

[@keredeht]

Boys are being hijacked because the women that run these institutions are rigging the system against them INTENTIONALLY. If you think this is an accident, you are delusional. Males outperform women in most categories, so this is being done to decrease the long term performance of men compared to women... Feminists initially thought that if you evened the playing field, men and women would end up with similar outcomes, but this has proven to be untrue, so now they are sabotaging males in an attempt to end up with more similar outcomes, and it is EVIL.

[@myisglim7801]

What??

[@floof1138]

I'd feign associate femininity with weakness. We can do nigh anything a man can do but backward and in heels.

[@stevenharder308]

She's really tiptoeing around the discovery that feminism was a horrible idea, but she's a captive of her ideology. Ain't never gonna figure it out.

[@MANICATTACKS]

love Christina Hoff Sommers!!!! she and Camille Paglia were the last great feminist intellectuals... i have my eye out for their successors, but it is more and more chilling as the decades pass...

[@danielkempton9659]

Janice Fiamengo. Susan Venker.

[@amoralpedantic]

You don't need successors for a hate group.

[@我主也]

@@amoralpedantic yes yes, no discussion no debate just name calling and slander and lies... very mature, now go sue your university for maleducation 😂👌

[@MANICATTACKS]

@@danielkempton9659 thanks for the recommendations! will look into their work

[@Hammerhead137]

Sommers and Paglia are still feminists, you forget it. It was their movement that opened the doors for this mess. Janice Fiamengo and Susan Venker are the good guys.

[@artemishumaan6984]

I know one family that 2 out of the 4 kids were groomed to be minimally gay. The parent is dumbfounded. He wasn’t paying attention to the teachings both academically and socially. This is the case for a vast number of American families.

[@grannyannie2948]

That's why in Australia we chose private RC schools.

[@philodonoghue3062]

The female director of the latest Star Wars said that she “quite liked the idea of making males uncomfortable “. Ie the historical majority of Star Wars

[@DavidBessette-o5m]

I agree with the statement ,men made her look uncomfortable when her productions all flopped and she had to explain herself !! She cost Disney billions of dollars for trying to push an agenda instead of catering to the star wars audience ( men )

[@SS-jl2cx]

To be fair, she was referring to the documentary she did about women not wearing hajib in Pakistan which didn't bode well with the Islamist population. She is a terrible director who shouldn't have been allowed near a star Wars script

[@obiwankenobi661]

@@SS-jl2cx doesnt matter. if they say that, theyre hostile.

[@SS-jl2cx]

@@obiwankenobi661 context does matter.

[@nimblehuman]

Yes, Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy. Makes me ashamed to be of similar ancestry. She's no movie director but is a feminist activist whose only cinematic credit is a documentary on misogyny in Pakistan. She can openly spew hate like this and not face consequences. Toxic femininity, defined.

[@dreamingmusic3299]

47:35 - "First wave Feminism" First wave Feminism began in the 1850s with the Declaration of Sentiments, headed by Elizabeth Cady Stanton, who stated: "We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men." --Elizabeth Cady Stanton (1848 - Founding Feminist)

[@Republitarian-g4h]

Compulsory "education" is the real problem.

[@steve3131]

Not education, INDOCTRINATION.

[@dreamcream3738]

​@@steve3131hence the sarcastic quote marks

[@lopa-u9f]

authoritarianism fear+obey or suffer punishment/negative consequences: - religion - government - information (media, education) - medical establishment the pillars of society

[@luvFoody]

I appreciate your method of interviewing and letting her have the space to lay her thoughts down and dive into the concepts. Great episode

[@rvharikrishna]

What makes feminism a viable idea in America is the fact that America is an island rather devoid of external threats. When enemies are knocking at your door constantly, nobody has the time to worry about equality and equity. That’s why women’s traditional roles weren’t “ridiculous” in the old world of Europe and Asia and elsewhere. And it wasn’t ridiculous even in America until ww2. Ww2 was when America realized its might and that’s things started deviating from the old traditions. Context is everything. Fenimism didn’t happen just because someone wrote a book about it and everyone just gleefully accepted it.

[@mikelitten7489]

Agreed 100%. It’s a byproduct of safety, excess and privilege. Men and women aren’t equal, women have equality only as long as men allow it. Everything that is happening now is because men have allowed it. Women didn’t vote or enter the work force at large until men decided to allow it, for greedy reasons. Double the work force, suppress the wages.

[@steve3131]

@@rvharikrishna what really fuels feminism is that men will do just about anything to attract women, no matter how destructive to themselves, other males and ultimately, society and women themselves. This has to stop.

[@Beelzebubba1983]

Thank you for your channel. Sometimes i comment, but most importantly I listen. As a guy who grew up without a dad, im not sure i ever really grew up lol. Keep up the good work. We got this!

[@rih128]

I try very hard to not comment if my comment does not help or contribute to peace or awareness. Impressive you see we may be physically adult but still in need of growth!

[@kimj5037]

In the classroom setting, girls are also easier to teach. And, teachers, as a human thing, will gravitate towards what is easier.

[@1afterthep]

All we have to do is question gender stereotypes, let everybody do what they want to do and not tell kids and people they need to change their gender if they don't fit these stereotypes.

[@ernestberry5226]

I was 1 of two men on a psychotherapy program. Almost all the women openly hated men and blamed them for all their problems. The lecturers also. What was fascinating was almost all their problems were actually caused by other females including their mothers. One had been in prison for gbh! They take away reason and accountability.

[@dallaslibra8514]

This topic reminds me of when I was Corrections Officer. The male inmates were more calm/ organized and the female inmates always had drama. I preferred to work on Male floors.

[@Alligator40]

Wow

[@gg_rider]

Interesting. Very.

[@NicoleTedesco]

It reminds me of the drama levels between groups of lesbians versus group of gay guys.

[@Alligator40]

@ wow i didn’t know that

[@dallaslibra8514]

@@NicoleTedesco No seriously, the ladies always needs attention, fighting, and very mouthy. The men would do things, but were very discreet and sneaky. The men will check each other within that dorm to keep everything calm.

[@brianmeen2158]

I’ve also wondered lately as to the current mental health crisis we have now. How is it when we live in the safest and most comfortable time in history where mental health awareness and treatment has never been better yet we are seeing mental illness explode? Depression, anxiety, suicide and drug overdose are all riding.. I mean what is happening here?

[@VectorSpector385]

We’ve been told the present day mental health system is good, but the stats aren’t backing it up. In fact, students studying psychology or going into healthcare are being told by their professors that the system is broken. It’s a broken system we’ve simply ignored and now it’s right in our faces. Political correctness and being unable to criticize the system or powers that be is the cause.

[@BloodSweatandFears]

Being too safe, comfortable, and sheltered has helped cause this. Technology has made it even worse.

[@MH3GL]

The main issue is that we keep whining and focusing on things that are beyond our control. Which then opens us up to be controlled by others. Always remember: whoever controls your emotions owns you.

[@luminous3558]

Because we are aimless. We have no needs, no threats, no dreams. Also awareness is actually not a pure positive. Knowing about something lets you overthink about it and focus only on the bad. The actual cure for depression is to have enough positives in your life to outweigh the negative, but therapy is all about you seeing how shit everything is.

[@VectorSpector385]

@@luminous3558 yeah, but yet so many are a paycheck away from homelessness. And these are full time workers that don’t feel a sense of security.

[@dibqip]

In the 80’s I went to a co-ed middle school where the girls were very clearly the first class citizens. I went to a boys school after that and the difference was huge for me.

[@avalonnite9179]

I don’t remember anything useful from my California high school experience. I couldn’t read or write for most of my young life. My parents were both from Mexico. They put us kids whose parents couldn’t speak English into special ed class and passed us multiple years. The special ed teacher would read us the questions on exams and remove two of the answers on the multiple choices question tests, so we had a 50/50 chance of getting it right. The special ed teacher would also type up our essays because we couldn’t write. I didn’t learn how to read or write until my mid 20s. I just never knew how important education was growing up. Now, I run a little business cleaning pools with my older brother still making barely 😂…

[@kuninagako9035]

Same here in Canada don't remember Jack from school most of it was completely useless junk

[@pooneil]

I watched this video earlier today. As somebody who went to school in the 90s, I am so surprised about what I hear. I do not have children, but if I did, I believe I would feel much like John does regarding public schools and school choice. I think Christina has a very fair, reasonable, intelligent approach to this, and I enjoyed hearing her speak. I also enjoyed some of the other related topics she branched out on, including feminism. Great speaker! A+.

[@normastegman]

A traditional classroom is poison for boys. As a fourth-grade teacher my classroom had numerous learning/play centers which were rotated on a daily basis so all had a chance to be active within a different station. My classes were excellent. At one time I had a staff meeting within my classroom. My kids knew the routine and moved quietly within the classroom as they went to their assigned station. I was so proud of all of them...both boys and girls.

[@stevenelson25]

I sat with neuroscience researchers, and this topic died so fast it made my head spin. I think it's more important to teach introspective practice, rather than forming groups and group egos for others to follow when it comes to navigating the psychological world as a person.

[@Jamhael1]

Let people be people - introspection is a privilege.

[@nuttyDesignAndFab]

I forget the stat, but well over 50% of men in the UK that sought therapy before offing themselves were marked as "no/low risk". Medical interventions are supposed to cure you at some point. therapy today is meant to be a lifelong thing.

[@elyse443]

The therapist cannot know if there is a risk unless the client says it. If someone asks you point black if you are thinking of offing yourself and you say “no” then how would they know you lied? It’s just not possible to save everyone. Unfortunately

[@nuttyDesignAndFab]

@@elyse443 sounds to me like they're pretty useless then

[@HolyRainbowism]

I would strongly recomand you interview Rachel Wilson. She wrote two books about the history of feminism and in-depth critic of it.

[@kevinmorton601]

I have missed Christina for many years.

[@Matthew-zu6tm]

Good talk, but you are already 20-30 years too late for things to be corrected. Now those who have been affected, just have to wait till they shuffle off to the here after.

[@Beelzebubba1983]

I'm now 40 and a dropout but I made the conscious choice to improve myself and raise my boys better than I was. It's never too late!

[@Matthew-zu6tm]

@@Beelzebubba1983 I agree that self improvement is a life long endeavor. After two branches of military service. Over 192 hours of post high school education. It never moved the needle when it came to my chosen profession. So. I switched careers and even though I have another half decade of experience. Nah. You don't have the 50 years experience they are looking for to give me another dime.

[@artemishumaan6984]

40 years of sub standard education and we are seeing it manifest today. Gen z and millennials cannot tell who is lying. The only saving grace is that the internet records all what has been said in the past and so the main stream media and politicians have to go with the narrative of “don’t believe you lying eyes”. It is very blatant and I think the young generation is finally catching on. Case in point is the turning on what dem party with this Palestine problem. They worshiped the dems because of the socialism and save the world lies, but now see that they were worshiping the same DC rich men that embrace and use war for profit. They knew that the Jews were the big money behind the dem party but that literally hate all rich people. It was only when the Jews had to back Israel that the wool was pulled from their eyes.

[@Hammerhead137]

​@@Matthew-zu6tm No, we're a lot more than 30 years too late.

[@-MakeItGood-]

Nah just get out of America. The land of feminism

[@JM-bb8xi]

Open a outdoors magazine around September, youll probably find an article about calculating the varying energy outputs for arrows used for deer hunting! Thats physics! It hit me this year reading my subscription to Game and Fish realizing i was reading an article teaching me about physics, complete with formulas on deternining kenetic energy. Not to mention the entire underlying themes of ecology, biology, and home economics (there are recipes and articles on cooking). Boys are inrerested and can learn these subjects. It just needs a different approach.

[@natedoherty2876]

Incredible conversation. I am so thankful to you both. Subscribed.

[@davemontgomery5856]

Great conversation. Talks like this give me hope that there is an awareness of what is happening and the dangers it entails and the necessary conversations that are needed. I particularly appreciate the appeal for balance and recognizing the irreconcilable nature of " us vs them " regarding men and women. Both sides are responsible for the solution. Thanks for this.

[@NoOne-bp2jw]

Us vs. Them is the prevailing political ideology of both parties. Politicians nurture this ideology to avoid being exposed for corruption. While one party is railing against immigration, the other party is railing against racists and bigots. Meanwhile, the government continues to fund useless projects that line the pockets of campaign contributors.

[@Beelzebubba1983]

I agree with a lot of this, going to school even in the 80s and 90s I hated school. I didn't like sitting still, I didn't realize at the time but I was just being a boy. I'm glad I got into the work I did going offshore and being treated as an equal because 99 percent of my colleagues were men too. The information world is one thing, but we still weld, plant corn, build shit the same old way. I love my grandmother who tried her best, but she couldn't prepare me for either tech or manual labor. God help me I'll teach my boys to fish and love their own life.

[@brianmeen2158]

Same here, I went to school in late 80s and early 90s and hated it. The long hours sitting and not really digesting what was being said. Thing is, we had gym and recess back then so that was an outlet .. I can’t imagine not having either Oh and yes, boys need fathers in the home. I love my mother but I wince at the things she taught me growing up. I’m glad my dad was there

[@healthygreenlifestyle690]

@@brianmeen2158 I am a single mom. What are some things that I need to make sure my sons learn?

[@grannyannie2948]

​@@healthygreenlifestyle690One mistake I see often is that mothers get overly concerned about another boy saying something sarcastic or mean to their son. That's because this upsets women much more than it upsets men. Ask the boy if it upset him, and if it didn't don't make a big deal. Boys get upset if they get punched.

[@BillNye-n2k]

Dropping out of highschool was the best decision for me. Tech school is where it’s at for men.

[@healthygreenlifestyle690]

@@BillNye-n2k At what age did you leave high school? At what age did you start tech school/vocational school? My son is 15 and we live in Florida.

[@Ada_Isabella]

13:04 allow me to answer that question as I work in the Department for Education. We have a strategy (written by the Left) that we need to implement in schools and the strategy focuses on concepts of inclusion, disadvantage and race - meaning if you are white and male boy, you're fuc*ed. The strategy does NOT include anything about boys unless they are LGBTQI and are black. Every single project I am in charge of (let me repeat this - every single project I am in charge of) only focuses on what is considered inclusive which in reality is exclusive as it only caters to one group. This is why I am desperately looking to change jobs because this is wrong on all possible levels.

[@ben_clifford]

This is not a surprise. I graduated high school in 1999, and this was the case back then, too.

[@kylekemper4217]

Gonna have to drastically change how we do school if we want boys to succeed.

[@sigmaramen]

That's the thing, they don't want boys to succeed.

[@steve3131]

The sad thing is that most educators do NOT want boys to succeed.

[@Alligator40]

@@steve3131of course they don’t they can’t have boys get ahead and have rights its like they want boys to go away

[@windblownleaf6450]

boys performing worse scholastically than girls/ performing worse than their past counterparts is simply fact. if you dont care about that, then i dont see why youre watching this video

[@slartibartfast2452]

Femininity is a pretty distinct thing. There's not really any variations.

[@Republitarian-g4h]

That's what I thought. I think this Ms. Sommers is right on some things but she's wrong/absolutely clueless on so many others.

[@slartibartfast2452]

@@Republitarian-g4h absolutely agree

[@benaiahwright937]

I thought the same thing. Ask a man what femininity is. He'll know...

[@momoxiaoshizi]

She was obviously trying to not offend ppl…

[@soniacasanova384]

So as a therapist of 11 years…what I have noticed is that parents don’t parent; they either under or over coddle their child.

[@FeralRC]

This is bringing back my memories of elementary school in the 90s. Most teachers I had really disliked boys. Even the male teacher I had in the 4th grade favored the girls and treated the boys like dirt. That's such a sensitive time for boys. It really turned me off to school. Middle school and high school were much better but damage done. College professors brought it all back though. Even in the early 2000s there was a woke mentality. I was smart enough to not let this shape the man I became. Unfortunately I see the effects still as I work in law enforcement and often deal with fatherless boys with little hope in school. it is getting worse.

[@Alligator40]

Sounds like your teacher is a internalized misandrist and professors don’t want males to have rights and i hope for you as a cop that you don’t violate peoples rights

[@THEIJ_85]

My husband never saw a woman teacher until he came the the USA. He is a teacher and the women are constantly falling apart in feont of the student's. Children realect men overall in an educational environment.

[@yuliankaltyga9406]

You mentioned fear of parking lot, according to criminal statistics men are more prone to get attacked, which makes it physical violence, than women to get as’ed. NEITHER is correct nor ok. The fear women feel is feeling, and feelings come and go. You as individual are in control of your feelings.

[@philodonoghue3062]

Woke (genesis feminism) has made different views “micro aggressions” triggers” which is “ uncomfortable” and “uncomfortable” becomes “ unsafe “ as in “safe spaces “.

[@honestgenz4413]

can you explain what these micro aggressions are?

[@glerp10000000000]

@@honestgenz4413 You'd have to ask the person who is offended. Usually it would be something like 'Let's go guys,' when there are women in the room. Something stupidly insignificant that was not intended aggressively but gives some one the power to demand that everyone behaves the way they dictate.

[@OverOnTheWildSide]

“Best friends sharing secrets”. That’s hilarious. She doesn’t mention that those secrets are mocking another little girl. And then the “best friends” will next be telling secrets with a new bf mocking the former bf. She missed a lot of details about kids behavior.

[@BloodSweatandFears]

That’s natural human female behavior. Happens anywhere there’s a group of girls.

[@angrychicken6093]

Toxic masculinity used to be a weak man who prayed on the weak. Real men stand up to things that would probably destroy them because weaker people are suffering!

[@mc2ryan100]

Podcast title should be "Dad saves the World"

[@Investigativebean]

Our forefathers said “We hold these truths to be self evident…” as in…this is always what it comes back to, and it ought to always be so obvious. It is so obvious. There are norms for a reason.

[@steveareeno65]

When I was in junior high (7-9 grades) in a small school (about 250 to 350 students) in Minnesota in the late 70s there were 11 male teachers that I had. There was Mr Chrun for English, Ness for history, Arnold for civics, Johnson for music, Wilson and Oren for science, Grams and Johnson for math, Schneider and Wood for PE, and Chamernic for shop and drafting. I only remember having three female teachers: Mrs. Chrun for art, Mrs swanson for home ec, and Mrs Boyd for English. There might've been more female teachers but I don't remember them. It's crazy to think when you walk into a public school today it's almost all female teachers. I was also in Boy Scouts. During the summer we would go to a place called Tomahawk scout reservation in Wisconsin for a week. We would sleep in tents in a really cool campground area on a lake. Each troop had its own area and they would bring food to our campsites. During the day we would go to classes to earn our merit badges. It was an absolute freaking blast. Some of the best memories I've ever had. They had something called the watermelon maul. They would grease up a watermelon and throw it in the water and all the troops would jump in the water and whoever got the watermelon up on the dock got a bunch of watermelons for their whole troop. It got kind of violent, lol. Kids were dunking each other and fighting over the watermelon. For merit badges, you could do archery, canoeing, swimming, environmental science, all kinds of stuff. I don't think they do that kind of stuff for boys anymore. It's really pretty sad.

[@AdamHarrisongpl-projx]

I was in Boy Scouts, and went to Rhodes France Scout Reservation in Pana, IL for summer camp. We did the watermelon battle at the end of the 3 week camp as well. The strongest boy in the troop would be chosen, and we usually won. The problem is that most of us were wimpy even then. Not a strong male influence to show us how to lift weights. This pussification and attack on masculinity started way back in the early 20th century with first wave feminism. My father was not a masculine man and I suffered greatly from not having a strong male influence in my life.

[@philodonoghue3062]

Single sex high schools are the traditional system in New Zealand but new ones since 70’s have been co-ed where the girls outshine the boys. The Catholic single sex high schools ie boys and girls score higher than the public schools, ie Catholic boys high schools outperform female public high schools. The only solution is charter schools which use the International Baccalaureate examination system.

[@grannyannie2948]

I went to a RC girls only highschool in Australia and I think they are better as well. Though my gkids go to a co-ed one because we live rurally and there's just not enough kids to do otherwise. But there's none of this nonsense. More an attitude of boys will be boys, and the more they run around, and within reason play rough, the better they'll behave in class.

[@philodonoghue3062]

@@grannyannie2948 Exactly Boys need a physical break between classes Each class

[@grannyannie2948]

@@philodonoghue3062 Exactly. The boys I know are still in primary school. I don't know about NZ, but in Australia, unless it's raining, lunch is eaten outdoors. Recently there was a bad storm, electricity wires coming down. The school knew the kids couldn't go outside, so they stuck them in the gym for an hour, not ideal but the best they could do.

[@tammymullins1151]

I agree. We need to have girls schools and boys schools and teach them accordingly.

[@grannyannie2948]

@@tammymullins1151 Yes, adolescents especially, if not both sexes become more interested in each other, than their lessons. They can still socialise, we had dinner dances, movie nights, and discussion groups with boys schools, but outside of school hours.

[@souldog1971]

If you want boys to succeed, reintroduce competition and the recognition of merit and achievement.

[@waynebarrow3245]

The number one issue in the catastrophe for boys is single motherhood and dads getting kicked out of families and not ONE sentence to address this? It’s talking about the need for safe roads and no one bringing up the lack of brakes on cars

[@Alligator40]

Cause they are man haters

[@BloodSweatandFears]

It’s a huge issue idk how they didn’t mention it at all.

[@Alligator40]

@@BloodSweatandFears cause its boys that suffer from it thats why they dont mention it

[@netizencane3717]

They purposely restricted the discussion to the expertise of the speaker. Because that’s what you do when you have limited expertise and time. Please feel free to host your own podcast covering every topic that may potentially be relevant to any random internet commenter. Or you could just take the discussion for the deliberately focused exchange contemplated.

[@georgebailey8179]

She mentioned it at 26:25

[@HaploStrong]

A war has been waged on my kind. I am tired of it. I am masculine & I love being who I am. Come & try to change me! You won’t be disappointed!

[@t.anthony1598]

I don't think these issues are flaws in the system, but features of it. Someone doesn't want boys to grow into good, strong, productive men. The strong, independent and successful women will be left to the whims and mercies of brutes, barbarians and monsters.

[@Alligator40]

Of course they don’t

[@mountaindew7190]

In a sense part of the problem is on display here. A woman talking about male issues. How often, in today's culture, would you see a man being asked to go in depth diagonsing women's issues? He would be told that a man can't speak to that.

[@TCSyd]

Not really seeing what you're getting at. Are you trying to imply that a man speaking on men and boy's issues would be taken more seriously than a woman by the general populace? Well, I have some bad news for you.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

Robert Kiyosaki lays all of this out in his book, "Rich Dad, Poor Dad". His rich Dad was a businessman, while his poor Dad was a schoolteacher. He brings up that how we teach children has not changed since the Aegan Age, even though we know now the in-school setting is not positive for the majority of males, but it is for females, who for hundreds of years were the ones educating boys and girls. This is nothing new, what is new is the intolerance and hatred of males and masculinity.

[@rrickarr]

Robert Kiyosaki is a very poor reference for this debate. His father was actually the superintendant for the state of Hawaii. Robert knows nothing about how we teach, nor does he know anything about the history of education and either do you!

[@kbadgett123]

Christina Hoff Sommers is a great and this is a thoughtful podcast.

[@anthonystanford7412]

Boys are viewed and treated in the same way in the UK

[@slyumbreon6213]

As a person who feels their education was sorely lacking simply because I was "an inattentive trouble maker" I school, I felt most of the time I just wasn't wanted. With all the bullying I dealt with being slightly overweight, and by slightly I was 20 pounds over what was recommended for my age but was 5 inches taller, and on top of that just being bored of what we were doing constantly. Now that I'm an adult I've learned so much I SHOULD have learned in school but it was never explained to me in a way I could understand and when I was learning from other men I didn't feel belittled like it was my fault for not knowing. It makes me glad my sister homeschooled her kids because it gives me someone to learn from for mine

[@paulp.l.4869]

47:00 "Deserve" is the issue in that definition of equality feminism. Equality in this form is: I deserve without merit. Rewards without effort or reason. Barriers should be removed, but if one needs to earn something and the other is handed that same thing by virtue of simple existence then equality is perverted.

[@GregoryRussell-e6e]

I was tossed out of class in high school because i was Aboriginal and that was the only reason!

[@sprezzatura8755]

Boys & girls should be educated separately. All the way through college. Boy's schools should have male teachers. Girl's schools should have female teachers. Ivy league was for men up until the 70s. Women went to the seven sisters schools. These women would often marry the men in the ivy league. The goal was to marry well and become a terrific wife and mother who would bring stellar children into the world.

[@laimajo3547]

Honestly, there is so much wisdom in this

[@SouthGallaecian]

I struggle with the idea that adults should be sheltered in this manner. I do agree regarding children, though.

[@kerripendragon4888]

Arabs do this. Some places im Africa do this.

[@1gunnerShock]

I kind of agree, but I think there should still be mixed social school events, just so both sex’s can learn how to interact with each other

[@rrickarr]

sprezza: NONSENSE. Plenty of boys and girls from public schools have done so well. Funny how you are making all of these excuses when for 300 years you told people of colour they were stupid and lazy, and suddenly now white boys are under threat!!!!!

[@markschlichting5357]

That was great man, liked, subscribed.

[@dreamingmusic3299]

26:08 - "The sins of the father" The term for this is "blood guilt" and it is a religious rite from voodoo and black magic. You need to interview Rachel Wilson, author of Occult Feminism: The Secret History of Women's Liberation

[@heinzbraunschweig9130]

Thank you so much for this talk, I really understand now when and how to argue with people about Feminism, so thank you!

[@Naurrrrrrrrr]

@@vivienneb6199wtf she is literally a woman

[@pirylocks]

What a great conversation. Thank you.

[@bropitt]

I raised two boys, one had good social skills but disliked abstract writing or thinking, he became a chef, my second boy could read and understand complex science and philosophy but could not sit still , I could tell the school was treating him as a problem, he dropped out of high school, but thank fully an administrator got him into an alternative school with better trained teachers and they helped him achieve. My daughter went through school like a breeze until her senior year and the trans movement hit and the school system tried to shove it down her throat. Of course, she rebelled and became more conservative than me. And she just graduated from college, my boys had no interest at all. I read Christinas book and mentioned it to a few teacher friends, they agreed with it but felt like their hands were tied by the momentum of society and the administration.

[@benaiahwright937]

I find it interesting that bending the order of the structure of society to the will of women is proving to be so destructive.

[@ghaafil_]

Good topic, respects❤

[@robertcross6834]

Read her book years ago, great read. Unhappy groups of unmarried men do society no good.

[@brennhannon609]

Great discussion; I very much appreciate CHS.

[@bdnevins]

skin boils: lack of bathing, not lack of soap. People had healthy skin long before soap came around.

[@cartrefproperties]

I don't and didn't wait for the school to teach my kids what i wanted them to learn about life. I tell them to question the information they are given, ask why. If the person who is asking you to do something and they can't explain it to you then they don't understand it them selves.

[@ernestberry5226]

😂love the bonfire story. That was me. I’m a psychotherapist now😂.

[@TeacherKellyTag]

Watched the whole thing. This was a great discussion.

[@patricksmith3376]

Imo this is a prime example of trying to play God. Everything she points out is spot on. And no one seems to care. This will not end well. For anyone.

[@kleinemonnik]

I remember that when I was around 13 years old, there was a group of women coming to school to talk about bullying, that it wasn't ok. I was this timid and shy boy who loved studying and learning stuff, and yes, I've been bullied because of that. That's why I joined a karate dojo when I was 10, to learn to stand up for myself. But anyway, these women were going on about that we should talk about our feelings, and imagine stuff like being a wave in the sea, and open up and talk about the bullying. I was a good boy who obeyed teachers, so when they asked if someone was bullied, I of course said yes. And talked about it there, in the group. And slowly but surely all my build-up confidence flowed away. I felt miserable by talking about it. I found it stupid, and it absolutely didn't help me. In the contrary. Stuff like this absolutely hurt my confidence, and outing myself as being bullied in the past in the group only made things worse for me.

[@PreampCnnsr]

"Relearning"... great concept, great word. 🙏🏻

[@monwell27]

I have two older sisters. The single best thing my parents ever did for me was put me into an all boys high school. Period. I was on path to control alt delete life as a teen. Man alive if you put kids together, boys will always be forgotten.

[@rrickarr]

Maybe they should have put you in an all boys school run by priests and monks. You know what happened there!

[@TruthQuest4700]

My mother, a school nurse, used to complain about the overuse of Ritalin.

[@edreanhenrytombaga562]

If a boy was always told on school that males are bad or something, eventually he would think "what the heck" and then does things that the environment expects in males like vandalizing etc. Because by then, he might think that it is normal for boys to be bad andthe idea is accepted by his environment. There's a rise to homosexual men since boys who dont have good male models would imitate female teachers and mothers, in addition to that theres alot of "creative writing" or other activities that promotes "expressing yourself" which is supposedly good but it should be in moderation.

[@jean-francoisbergevin6981]

Hoff Sommers is pure music for the brain. And common sense.

[@imopman]

Great video and concept. Subscribed.

[@Drosophilax]

Until I listened to this interview I didn't realise how much I missed, hearing from Christina.

[@scottmerric2180]

43:43 Exactly. I know every woman isn’t like this, but the feelings - centered view of the world, and the traumatic narrative of every single stressful event in their life is really holding women back. Trying to help, but truly holding them back. Giving them a platform to be vulnerable - but not the tools to heal and problem solve. Just hyper exasperating victimhood.

[@PUABored12]

As far as boys & men expressing their feelings is concerned I think that if there is childhood trauma in their background, for example, then yeah talk therapy can help. But also male instincts are needed for example. Working out or playing sports are a couple of examples

[@DonBailey-od1de]

Once these boys get to divorce court they don't stand a chance.

[@Alligator40]

Yep that’s the truth they don’t want boys to have rights at all

[@Alligator40]

And divorce courts were basically invented by man haters

[@yuliankaltyga9406]

One thing she is wrong is saying one field there are more men working there so there is a wage gap, thats nonsense, most women dont choose those jobs, and those who do do NOT work same hours, same years, so they dont have same experience, which means they are not paid the same.

[@obiwankenobi661]

2 mins in i knew the rest wasnt worth watching. she didnt say "submissive".

[@howardatherton3889]

Very well articulated thanks

[@ArCSelkie37]

The through-line here is that girls play is promoted as normal and boys play is villainised.

[@Alligator40]

Unfortunately that is the truth I remember last year when I playing laser tag a girl who looked like she 7 years old was saying promoting girl power and it was 4 girls and 2 guys playing against each other and us guys won

[@chiderajames8387]

1:16:06 I like what she says here about one day we may be forced to circle back & start re-learning the fundamental truths of civilization. The Great Re-learning

[@Atreus21]

Hatred. That's the word for how this system views boys.