Christmas Special - Featuring Yogscast and Friends

[@BBBence1111]

>New to the game >Is the demon Not even the Yogscast escape this meta

[@TeniBear10]

I've played exactly two games of BOTC - My first, I was Imp and won. My second, I was Scarlet Woman to my husband's first-game Imp, became the Imp partway through, and won again 🤣 So I've never played as good, and have never lost - I may just retire!

[@SNDLKaraoke]

I was demon for the first 4 games I played in BOTC, and won every single one 🤣. Nowadays everyone tries to kill me instantly because I'm "not allowed to live" past day 1

[@WolfOfLegend]

its so real. My first game I was the imp and won, my second game i was also the imp but we had to rerack on d1 because of out of game reasons, so my actual game 2 i was the scarlet woman that became the imp and won lmao

[@kingnoodle8785]

I must say, having watched a bunch of vids with seasoned professionals, Ben's ability to communicate with brand new players is just incredible. He really is a world class storyteller

[@othfan96]

So true! He's a true professional at this game

[@Cyrathil]

He's the Dad of the Yogscast, so it kind of makes sense.

[@ragerequiem6323]

I am always happy to see new players and hear their questions even after hundreds of hours. Some these questions would have been exactly what I would have asked right away.

[@blunderstruck1]

the questions are great, more questions absolutely, but the aggressive meta gaming while simultaneously not understanding the regular gaming was just too frustrating for me

[@000Dragon50000]

That vigormortis poison arcing across two people to hit the third is some Nodashi extension cord level shenanigans.

[@Spooglecraft]

58:30 can we appreciate for a moment how ben gave advice to nilesy. he didn't tell him anything new, he just laid out information nilesy had, because nilesy was working off a wrong assumption. great storyteller moment imo

[@OlaRozenfeld]

Yeah, I was taking notes! I'm trying to learn to ST now, and this is the exact thing that will be the most difficult for me, I think.

[@OrcaHedron]

I won 100k channel points by going all in on this game LOL

[@gamestone-nb]

good causes drunkness and evil causes poison. i get it now. thanks for clarifying it :)

[@falsnamae3511]

It is my personal opinion and hill I stand on, that the two are minorly mechanically different: Drunk is arbitrary, but poison should benefit the demon. A drunk can get useful information, for example they can get true information in a vortox demon script (where by default everyone MUST be lied to, it's a fun demon), or just get true information in general, or "more useful" information that they'd even normally get (for example a noble getting all three evils when nobles tend to shoot from the hip at all three of their pings), it is just completely arbitrary, whatever might be fun or cool or funny, while again, in my personal opinion, poison should never, EVER benefit Good, it should ALWAYS benefit the demon, or at least attempt to.

[@ggrace67]

@@falsnamae3511 I believe you can give THE drunk an outsider correct info in a Vortox game but you can not give A drunk townsfolk correct info in a Vortox game because they are still a townsfolk. But I could be incorrect. I'm not a ST

[@Katz0801]

@@ggrace67 yeah this is correct the vortox trumps poisoning and drunkenness in a vox game. Townfolk always learn false info. The benefit of poisoning in a vortox game is for non-information roles such as a sailor or nightwatchmen etc

[@AnnaNicole.]

@@ggrace67 Correct. Both sober and drunk (lowercase) townsfolk must receive false info in a Vortox game. The Drunk (uppercase) can receive arbitrary info with that demon.

[@Paint_The_Future]

The good Snake Charmer can cause poison and the most recent version of the evil Organ Grinder can cause drunkenness. The Organ Grinder's ability is, ""All players keep their eyes closed when voting & the vote tally is secret. Each night, choose if you are drunk or not." "

[@mskolnik2]

I completely agree here that the character should be called The Drunkard and not The Drunk to help clear up some of that potential confusion. Or better yet The Inebriate

[@hennyvanpatten6026]

In the german version this is actually the case. The status is called "betrunken" and the character is called "Trunkenbold" which according to dict translates to "drunkard".

[@fleacythesheepgirl]

A Christmas special! WITH THE YOGS!? This has been a year of me getting back into the yogscast 🎄

[@scotu7075]

Spoilers Super happy to see a new player win as the demon, Lolip played very well and I’m glad her killing her minion payed off so well in the end

[@Cyrathil]

I've been loving the Yogs getting into Blood on the Clocktower, but I love this format so much more than the in Minecraft version they use.

[@vaultdweller64]

This group is more spanners than works. Absolutely love the energy. “I’ve never seen a real saint.” is a whole vibe, love it. What a fun game!

[@red_king888]

I believe this was one of the best, if not THE best game of the year. Personally, I think that, although nonsensical shenanigans are the funniest way to taunt your players (aka, Pixie-> Philo-> Alchemist-> Boffin-> Tinker kill on Zombuul), nothing will ever compare to the classic "New player's curse": Pull out the demon from the bag, expectedly bluff Saint, fight against that one player who already knows, keep spending dead votes, and unexplaiably destroy the local elections. Y'all somehow did that out of TB and I was surprised by the outcome. Thanks for this and forthcoming laughs on the new year, happy holidays, and remember that empaths aren't real!

[@Kujata55]

I don't know this group at all, but they are hilarious and I love them!

[@JaydenMudge]

I know it's poor form to judge the decisions of town when I have the full perspective of the grim, but I think the triangle of trust messed up bad. The Librarian should have been wisdom, Sailor courage, and Mayor power! Honestly 😋

[@therussianprincess7036]

Holy hell this is the first time I’ve seen these people but I’m in love with the crew already

[@bombgameing]

Ive been watching them for over 10 years, i wholeheartedly love there content and the recent botc games they had made me join the game and run a couple myself

[@ribby9069]

Oh man, I’ve been watching the yogscast for about 14 years. Love love love em

[@kamikazegargoyle]

A brand new player stumbling over the Sailor character rather than playing TB is certainly A Choice.

[@masondeross]

I think the issue is that Ben didn't describe the sailor to Bedgar (Zylus did the talking). Ben always describes it as "Read it backwards: You can't die. You also choose a player every night, and one of you becomes drunk. But if you become drunk, and then you can die." but he let Zylus do the talking during the first night and didn't chime in with his re-wording like he would normally. Ben's wording also makes it clear that the drunkenness caused by the sailor is a one night only thing, and hammers in that it is either you or the one other person chosen that night who is drunk (it doesn't linger on past choices). I never realized how important for new players Ben's rephrasing of the Sailor can be until this game. Zylus explained it pretty clearly to me, but didn't do the "read it backwards thing", and apparently that distinction really matters to new players.

[@joaomarques4030]

Ravs: u up babe Ravs: oops wrong ben

[@evaos12]

Nilesy and Daltos realizing what happened was magical!

[@EllieBelle1993]

I was laughing so hard! Daltos was non-verbally SCREAMING “we had her!! She was on the block!”

[@Platinum-db8rc]

Love the Yogs

[@KeenX72]

I've wanted this video for so long I almost can't believe it

[@Moleoflands]

Am I missing something or was the theory about whether they would drunk a saint or not flawed? Personally, if a sailor tried drinking with an outted Saint (or any outsider) I'm almost always drunking the sailor

[@ReunionMana]

well ben pretty much fell at the first hurdle given his explanation to briony lol, it's baseline a 50/50 to lose. ben figured that the storyteller WOULD drunk the saint, but it's not a guarantee, and that can be figured out partly because saint is not townsfolk--saint is outsider, so even he was reading the wiki wrong... theory is flawed in a lot of ways i think. it would take a storyteller who has ran a LOT of games with sailor and saint in the script to know the math on it.

[@kond7664]

@@ReunionMana Ben's theory was pretty out there but it does at least show that just throwing ideas out in a High Priestess game is really helpful since there's a strong chance the storyteller will be compelled to direct them to you if you're actually on the right track.

[@BloodontheClocktower]

In situations like this, you've really gotta give players a basic explanation of how something works and then let them draw their own conclusions. You can't play the game for them. - Ben

[@Wouter10123]

The sailor is a townsfolk, so it should benefit the good team. Not drunking the saint rarely benefits the good team.

[@jacksontoeniskoetter1432]

The drunkenness isn't meant to benefit town, it's meant to balance the sailor's immortality.

[@will4609]

YOGSCAST LETS GO!!!!!!!! 🎉

[@aabhasbhardwaj8829]

Great vid! Where can I find this crew if people?

[@williamherbert2901]

Search for the channel ‘the yogscast’. They have 7 million YT subs.

[@chrisfreeman6850]

Nice yogs with daddy Ben. This should be good. Love both Ben and the yogs, even if BOTC is played online, in person or in Minecraft. All fantastic. Right enough of this time to actually watch the vid. Merry Xmas to all involved and all of chat. Have a grand time whatever you're up to.

[@jetsflyingoffatrain4338]

I spent the entire start of the video thinking "what the hell is the Lutch" because of the font on the token

[@Paint_The_Future]

Must be the same Sailor who was helming the Titanic.

[@DustyLizard85]

My favorite brits all in one room :D

[@brandonhouston7575]

Is this game ever going to get new roles published for the physical copies?!

[@PriorCracker]

It will, but we don't have any information on precisely when that will be

[@DasGanon]

​@PriorCracker Soon™

[@nregames8447]

One of the best games So close

[@eloanpedraza4603]

Is weird that the only place that i know Yogscast from is from the sonic car game?

[@AnthonyFuller]

Wow, deep cut reference right there!

[@BlueGriffin20]

Hey! Awesome to see this crossover!

[@TheSmokingLizardSWE]

Watched this live. Its a fun one

[@SchnitzelDaemon]

GG Lolipopgi!! Amazing comeback, incredible win!

[@Septembersmith9633]

The mind is fear...and the reason why evil wins 😈

[@DustyLizard85]

what a show!

[@NovelStraights]

Loved the twist ending that evil had won no matter what

[@floflofloflo8608]

This isn't true. They had the demon on the block with enough votes more than once, including on final day. All the good team needed to do was not put enough votes to tie (or execute) anyone else. And that was actually very achievable, evil team only had one vote because Nilesy had spent theirs already. Evil team were behind for most of this game, it very much came down to the final vote on the final nomination on the final day. That's as close as you can hope for!

[@berdyie]

SPOILERS . . . . . As an experienced player it was PAINFUL watching Mousie (who I think was the 2nd new player, so absolutely no flak their way) not understand that killing the Demon was virtually ALWAYS better than going for a Mayor win there. Sure, it's easy to say whilst spectating and seeing the whole Grim, but if Mousie truly believed that Briony was just a good player, then that only leaves one other player who could be the Demon. Of course, that line of logic goes out the window if Mousie wasn't confident, which I think in the end was the case. Not to mention Ben intentionally stressed them for time because, had good had more time to talk, I think Loli was dead every time. Going for Mayor victory is great when, between the two other choices, you don't know and you don't want to run the 50/50. But if you're as confident as the majority of town was that Briony was just good, then there's no point risking it in case you were drunk/poisoned (EXACTLY like what happened in this game). Like, even outside of this particular game where it may or may not have been the case, I have witnessed (firsthand) multiple Mayors just go for the Mayor victory despite the Demon being dead to rights, and then lose because of weird poison/drunk shenanigans. Mayor is great for stepping around the 50/50. But if the odds are looking more like 75/25, then just go for the execution, man! It can't be drunk or poisoned!

[@blunderstruck1]

not only is a mayor win just fun, but there’s an interesting caveat to ur logic for this particular game. no one knew what minion was in play, if it was a DA protecting the Demon, potentially a Vigormortis-killed DA, then the mayor win is the only way to win in that scenario (assuming the mayor wasn’t poisoned like they were here). so yes, executions are also subject to failure lol

[@berdyie]

@blunderstruck1 thats a fair point about DA

[@ellysemilton1309]

@@berdyie Also Mousie could have been the Marionette to Lolip, in which case she wouldn't want to execute her demon. The safest play from her perspective was a Mayor win, as noone really brought up Vigor poison targets.

[@jacksontoeniskoetter1432]

​odds of being poisoned were probably much less than 25% in a vacuum.

[@euanthompson]

How does the new guy always pick evil?

[@BloodontheClocktower]

It's the universal rule of all complicated games. - Ben

[@ablackwelltp1]

Not sure how easy it is to change KZbin subtitles, but just a heads up that Nilesy keeps being detected as something I really don’t think Nilesy will want to be called (approx 4:15)

[@BloodontheClocktower]

OMG, that's amazing. I have absolutely no idea how to change that. - Ben

[@masondeross]

AI generates the subtitles. I think you can add custom ones, but you have to replace it all or none afaik. I don't think it can just be edited to fix specific mistakes with the AI generated subtitles. I could be wrong because I haven't looked at the creator stuff in a long time.

[@JohnTux_]

Awesome game everyone!

[@shehankv]

I don't know any of these people but fun game

[@KitsuneHood-pc6rm]

YOGCASTS

[@lapinelazulilive4823]

hmm something seems off about this episode of TTT. cant quite put my finger on it...

[@ReunionMana]

YOGA CATS POG

[@q-tuber7034]

I enjoyed this about as much as I enjoy watching any online BOTC game with beginning/intermediate players: i.e., it was fine. With that said, I am having trouble wrapping my head around the idea that this group, with just a fraction of the charisma and humor of NRB or even the usual BOTC channel team, has 7 million subs. What am I missing?

[@chrisfreeman6850]

Just finished, what a game. Well done all. Kindest regards all.

[@Andrew-tb6xu]

"There are two people who have never played before..." yep okay I'm skipping this one.

[@BloodontheClocktower]

See you next week! - Ben

[@Alpha-1812]

@@BloodontheClocktower Are we going to get the second game with Rythian and Zylus as the storyteller uploaded here?

[@Crimson_Rogue97]

If people don't begin playing somewhere then we're going to be stuck with the same players doing the same plays and not getting any new perspectives. I love playing with and watching new players. It's really fun to see what they come up with and how they approach the game. Sorry this one isn't for you but I'll be having fun watching people get stuck in with new strategies and playstyles

[@Dante2056]

I will be honest here, and before I say this I know the group having fun is more important, but as someone watching these for entertainment, I won't be watching this particular game again. This group just frustrated me, and their logic often made no sense on either side and just... I know we have all the info, but even with that some of their deductions made no sense to me. To be fair, we also don't see all the conversations, but still.

[@Sten43211]

I think that is just par for the cause with that many new players.

[@TomCantDance]

I actually agree with you for the most part. Having Ben B here to guide everyone actually made this watchable for me, but I often find it hard to watch Yogscast botc because of the lack of logical arguments and a lack of understanding of the game. Ben (Bedgar) just going off how they assume the role works rather than asking a ST seems to be par for the course for players in yogscast games. I like a lot of these guys and watch their stuff but find it hard to watch their botc vids