Minecraft Blood on the Clocktower in real life | Jingle Jam 2024 Day 12

[@da72762]

Starts at 14:15 First break ends 1:27:51 Second break ends 2:10:02

[@gracemangum]

Doing the Lord's work 👏🏼

[@svenrio8521]

24:30 to skip the singing 😅

[@gracemangum]

@@svenrio8521 YESSSSSSS

[@FreshlyBakedLePain]

I love Lewis as the flustered face-palming host

[@captainbloodloss1]

i love how tom just always figures it out

[@imadecoy.]

Well he did kinda whiff it on the goblin with the red herring information he got

[@SoundsOfTheWildYT]

Sullie couldn’t even survive two days in yogtowers without revealing his true nature as a greedy little goblin smh

[@3thanguy7]

can't wait for clocktower in Minecraft in real life in Minecraft

[@yuviaro3511]

Yogs at a LAN party but we the audience can only watch the hall from one perspective

[@tunataylan2619]

Tom is the best. Smartest guy ever. Every game.

[@dawnofthedunk]

No rolls barred meets yogcast...best thing since sliced jesus.

[@hoathanatos6179]

You can thank Tom for getting their attention with his Mystery Quest channel.

[@Kahnabys]

Game three should be pretty unhinged given how big the glass of wine Lewis has at the start of two.

[@KBRoller]

Blood on the Clocktower with no private conversations allowed is *wild.*

[@blacklabsarecute3430]

I love that they played in person and watching NRB and high rollers crossover is the best thing ever, would love to see a RPG collab at some point

[@Magic__7]

The didna mystery quest together for the jj but that may be being edited down

[@christiankrarup6501]

@@Magic__7 They've done several ttrpg games together on Mystery Quest and Chaotic Neutral!

[@davidnystrom9059]

My only wish, if and when they do this again, is that they let everybody go off to different rooms or areas in the office to talk, just like in the Minecraft version of the game. Might have been too hard to set up, but it would have been cool.

[@kam......]

man Lewis really screwed the pooch on that first one hahaha. Oh well, it was bound to happen with this format. Good stuff nonetheless!

[@lordnacl5277]

It's not entirely fair to blame it all on lewis when tom was far from clear as to who he targeted.

[@pa130]

@@lordnacl5277 he should have confirmed the target before declaring the death. It is %100 on lewis.

[@Dr.Death8520]

It was a bit on both, Tom not being clear, Lewis not getting confirmation. A lesson learnt at least

[@Imagin8io]

1:10:13 - Sulli's 'trust square' remix was hilarious XD

[@TROONTRON]

I cried from laughter 😂 I really hope they will leave the whole thing in the release

[@HugBunnies]

I love you, Yogscast! Thank you for being you every single day! Always treasuring these moments! Today's cat fishing video was great too

[@GlidusFlowers]

Even thought a legitimate move in a lying game, Duncan looking into Osiris eyes and telling her “I would never lie to you” seems pretty cold lmao

[@timothychew4370]

Thanks!

[@beardedbovel]

In the last game, it amazes me that it takes sooo long for anyone to react to Duncan just not saying a peep!! But I'm glad and relieved Osie finally did even though it didn't lead to an execution.

[@redpandai1]

It the next stream only on twitch? Cant find it on youtube

[@zoepeterson519]

I was wondering this too

[@hansyyy]

Yeah I'm confused too!

[@gracemangum]

It seems that way :( I wonder why!

[@SpoonHvH]

15:45 anyone else sad tom missed the "i am the senate"

[@blunderstruck1]

just some storytelling advice, a lot of STs ask the slayer for a weapon of choice as a stall for time to check for every reason why a slayer shot might or might not kill. additionally, saying you didn’t get the demon after an execution especially on this script is probably not the best idea because there’s a scarlet woman and legion, meaning that there are plenty of reasons a demon would be executed but the game would still continue.

[@WittingAbyss]

Love Tom and his cosmic deductive reasoning

[@kaylakayteal7294]

I feel so dumb while listening to his thought process HAHAH

[@eruner11]

I've not watched this vod through yet, and people might not see this comment anyway in a vod that may be privated. But legion may register as minions, so Sulli's snith bluff fully works in a legion game and could still have given legion bluffs

[@blunderstruck1]

legion may also register as minions, but they’re also just demons meaning they get bluffs anyway. they’re also allowed to get bluffs separate from each other since they’re each individual demons. Sully’s argument was the snitch giving evil players bluffs when they all already get bluffs is not really helping evil which is what outsiders are supposed to do.

[@eruner11]

​@@blunderstruck1 Very true. I realised the mistake in my thinking later, but couldn't be bothered editing the comment.

[@OnlyNobodyAtHome]

@@blunderstruck1 But the snitch can mean each Legion gets 6 different bluffs. This game had 5 legion, so 6 bluffs would mean enough for all. In larger games, having only three bluffs for all legion (especially if the same) can be hard. Therefore Snitch very much still helps evil. if anything, the thing making Snitch redundant in the Legion game was that there were no private whispers. Therefore, players just had to claim out loud in order, so Legion had ample opportunity to not double claim - the only risk being with Tom's Slayer as both the Empath and Chef claimed very early.

[@stabbo173]

Cant believe no one picked up on Duncan's trademark not speaking all game when evil. Also didnt realise you could kill people twice, that seems weird

[@Dr.Death8520]

Executing a dead player isn't a common thing without a reason (since it's semantically the same as no one being executed). Certain characters make a distinction between an execution and a death by execution, like the vortox here

[@blacklabsarecute3430]

No private chats really does wreck the game, wish they would have been able to have more space

[@Dr.Death8520]

It doesn't wreck it so much as change how you play. There's a traveller called the matron which prevents people leaving the town square like this (only part of their ability). I think for the format it makes sense.

[@blacklabsarecute3430]

@ yeah I really like the matron but even that facilitates private chats to an extent, not being able to share bluffs and strategies between the evil team really under powers them especially with these numbers

[@Spacetauren]

Awesome as always ! Anybody knows if the music the Yogs use for BotC is publicly available and, if so, where to find it ? I want to bring some ambiance to my game on new years eve :)

[@IcepersonYT]

99% of the music they use is from Epidemic Sound. It's kind of impossible to narrow it down unless you are a member and familiar with a lot of the stuff on there, though.

[@Spacetauren]

@IcepersonYT Alright, I guess my search begins then !

[@christiankrarup6501]

@@Spacetauren Try asking in one of the community discords, someone might know there?

[@Stuffthatsfunny1]

Second game the evils had no chance. The info given out was brutal 😂

[@DJDarkDarsi]

16:35 ish "and he will take you outside" but we are on the 4th floor so it'll probably be him just yeeting you out a window

[@cheritang5205]

This is my first time seeing almost all of the botc players irl and Osie looks like a really cool Baldur’s Gate 3 npc that I’d dreamily stare at

[@jorbdan6305]

49:53 oh no lewis gave the game away lmao

[@eruner11]

He did try to save it with the fakeout on Laurry's death, but even then it was rough

[@samankittani8856]

1:40:59 Ben getting pooned instantly is very Ben

[@BadVideoWatcher1]

Starts at 14:17

[@honidian]

Yes! I wish I could have watched this live! Sadly my wife and sons are sick so I've been taking care of them.

[@Stuffthatsfunny1]

*Spoilers* Knew legion would loose as soon as Laurie was on that team 😂

[@ArynnUmbercloak]

that very final round was not good for Ose. kill Briony -> she's the saint, townies lose kill Briony -> she's the minion, townies lose kill Briony -> she's the vortox, townies win kill Duncan -> he's the mayor, townies lose kill Duncan -> he's the minion, townies lose kill Duncan -> he's the vortox, townies win no execution -> Duncan's the mayor, townies win no execution -> Duncan's the vortox, townies lose no execution -> Duncan's actually neither, townies lose the odds were always against her

[@QuibbleTrouble]

The odds are very often against good in the final three. But the odds in general even out when you consider that they had a bunch of executions before final three which are all chances to execute the demon. Sometimes the information can give a 50/50 in final three, but generally the odds are worse than that from a purely numbers approach. There is of course social reads as well.

[@wilhelmgames633]

SULLIVAN

[@j-mc2144]

1:43:45 Kindred spirits with Gee lmao

[@TMunro1996]

At roughly 1:34:30 why are the two minions shown blue roles? I assume they are bluff roles but I thought only the demon was shown bluff roles?

[@ztatum611]

When a Lord of Typhon is the demon type, technically the minions are not picked until after the roles are given out, since they are required to neighbor the demon. This means the minions in Typhon games have a built in bluff, and that's what happened here just in reversed order since roles where decided in advance it seems

[@AmeenaWordweaver]

@@ztatum611 Yeah, normally in a real-life game, the roles are assigned via picking tokens out of a bag which is passed around the circle (the player looks at their token, then hands it to the Storyteller who places it in their Grimoire for their own reference). If a Lord of Typhon game, no Minion tokens are passed out at first, since you don't know who the Minions will be until you know the Demon (because with the big moo-moo cow the Minions must neighbour said cow with the cow in the middle, or as near as possible if they have three Minions - cow adds an extra Minion to the base count as well so there could be as many as four in a large enough game). So everyone takes a token and thinks they are good, then the players neighbouring the Demon are woken and shown the Minion tokens that they now are. Which means their original roles now serve as a built-in bluff because those are no longer in play.

[@Br3akaway]

ive been so excited for this. this is gonna be so great

[@Matriarch_Rin]

poor demon first game utterly throwing the win away -- too cocky, too ready to call yet another vote for drama

[@jfolz]

Did they use the perspective tricks from LOTR to shrink Lewis?

[@fugyfruit]

His chair is just a lot shorter than everyone else's, if you look most other people have their legs dangling off their chairs

[@BlingBertie]

Hey this was awesome where can I watch the next stream??

[@SpoonHvH]

If you find it pls lemme know!!

[@turtlecabaret]

loved it!!

[@Thepopmario]

-The goblin game shouldn't have ended, he declared that he was the goblin BEFORE he got nominated, meaning that the goblin win should have been invalidated.- I misunderstood how it worked.

[@fugyfruit]

He did continue to declare he was a goblin while being nominated, there's nothing that says the goblin is ONLY allowed to declare during nomination and at no other time

[@Thepopmario]

@@fugyfruit My bad, I misunderstood how it worked.

[@Schmidddl]

Very cool colab!!

[@roro7874]

I wish i didnt have a job so i could of watched this

[@ThePyrosirys]

SPOILERS Even though he made a mistake, Lewis should have just killed Ravs instead of switching to Laurie. Switching the kill almost makes it so slayer activated twice.

[@AmeenaWordweaver]

I thought he'd just say that Laurie doesn't die, which still makes it look like he screwed up and that Ravs is the Demon, but doesn't implicate Laurie - since Legion can register as Minions, just have Laurie register as a Minion for the purpose of the Slayer. So the shot isn't wasted, because Ravs was indeed a Demon, but also it doesn't screw things up and confirm a Legion (because yes, the game didn't end, but Ravs might've been a different Demon with a Scarlet Woman - I think there were enough players remaining for that to have triggered if available).

[@jackgeneser5285]

Yea, in the minecraft videos where he makes mistakes often as well, and in this instance, it really doesn't feel like lewis has the experience as a storyteller to be running these more complex scripts. He kinda screws up too often to be enjoyable to watch sometimes. Even when hes not making mistakes, he often says things that feel like he shouldn't be, that kind of ruin things. In one minecraft episode he gave some​one their information and then said "thats game-winning information right there". Like even if that information is false, the storyteller really shpuldnt be saying stuff like that. @AmeenaWordweaver

[@AmeenaWordweaver]

@@jackgeneser5285 Yeah, I get what you mean. But on the other hand, the only way to get better at it is to keep doing it. They commented on the Slayer mistake in the following stream with Ben Burns, and he and Zylus were saying it's okay to make mistakes sometimes - Ben added that "the Matt Mercer effect is real", ie people see someone doing something professionally online and think it's really easy and that if they do the same thing (play the asame game, in this case), it'll be just like that. But it isn't, because those people aren't Matt Mercer. Lewis screwing up occasionally in Clocktower shows that yeah, you can make mistakes sometimes, but the game carries on and everyone ultimately has fun, and they know what not to do next time.

[@OnlyNobodyAtHome]

@@AmeenaWordweaver I don't think Legion can register as Minion at the expense of registering as Demon. I think Legion ALWAYS registers as Demon, so dies to a Slayer shot, and ALSO register as Minion, and so receive Snitch info, or are seen by an Investigator, for example. The ability specifically says "You register as a Minion too"

[@AmeenaWordweaver]

@@OnlyNobodyAtHome Ohh okay, fair. I thought they could entirely misregister and count as a Minion like the Recluse does or whatever.

[@riverseverywhere]

The yogs always have super hot guests, lolll...

[@ChrisMorray]

I can't believe the graphics on this new Minecraft mod. What did they call it? "in real life"?

[@mycoal3016]

1:55:41 This made me cry😂

[@TheGardeinator]

RT always throws by making bold claims, if he just let tom slide tom wouldn't have been pushed to use his ability and they wouldn't have figured it out

[@scottsmith8635]

sounds like a record you play backwards

[@nickschu9057]

That Christmas singing was horrendous

[@lukesaltsalter6111]

Who let the Lebanese boy back in?

[@Spikeba11]

Note for editor, in the second game you gave the washerwoman description for the chef, checking the asset you used is a good idea.

[@dvdgrdnr88]

There was no editor, it was a live stream.

[@smalwex]

But sadge theres no rust stream this year and reckon thats why pyrion looks sick of his life toward the end of this 😅

[@L3tas]

Of because Lewis was telling him off like a 10yr old 😂

[@gawainwilliams81]

I was really looking forward to this, expecially knowing the NRB boys were in it. But this was a mess in such a small place, it would have been better in minecraft or the way NRB have played it in the past. Hope you do this again but either online or with multiple rooms for players to group off into in.

[@TMunro1996]

They're doing a stream right now (it's probably just finishing?) on twitch where it is done in minecraft. They did one stream in person, one in micecraft.

[@gawainwilliams81]

@TMunro1996 Great, thanks for the heads up. Please tell me Sullivan, Laurie and Tom are in it :)

[@Dr.Death8520]

Streaming it live like this brought some compromises. NRB's in person is a high quality edited affair, and the Minecraft series is also multiple simultaneous perspectives. Keeping everyone in one room is much less of a headache to capture live without viewers missing too much

[@gawainwilliams81]

@Dr.Death8520 I didn't mean how nrb do it in person but how they do it online.

[@lindseysluyterl2251]

why does the legion hand have six fingers?

[@blunderstruck1]

that’s how it is in the official icon as well, I think it’s part of legion’s whole shtick of the evil/abnormal trying to convince everyone it’s a non-legion game by appearing normal. could also be a reference to more evils than expected compared to a standard game with more fingers than expected lol

[@trise2033]

Because they are Legion.

[@Dr.Death8520]

It's kinda like how ai art can't always get things perfect, legion are demons that try to fit in but there's something not quite right about them

[@originalpleb]

Feels like im the only person who doesnt like crossovers

[@slyceth]

Is there a spoiler free version?

[@squegeemcgee2403]

Wdym? When does it spoil who wins

[@gd1247]

@@squegeemcgee2403 Probably means a version where the audience doesn't know the roles, so they have to figure it out alongside the players. That's sometimes done with these types of things, but hard to do well in stream format.

[@slyceth]

@squegeemcgee2403 i don't want to know the roles

[@slyceth]

@@gd1247 it's easy, just don't show the roles on screen

[@gd1247]

@@slyceth Yeah but that's not ideal for most viewers. It's hard to do both at the same time. Most people probably want to see the role as it's a complicated game many don't know well. In theory they could have a moment of 'close your eyes if you don't want to know the roles', but unless you know the game well, you kind of need that constant reminder about each person's role and its ability.

[@zonedereve]

🔺🔺🔺

[@JCstock]

Showing the investigator the scarlet woman and the demon is just bad storytelling imo.

[@thewiccanassassin]

Lewis screwed the Legion over twice. The first was killing the girl in the night. The second one was not letting Breeh die when he was VOTED FOR! Game 2 they are not letting people choose who to look at and assigning them answers. That is not how the game works. If you are going to play this game, play it correctly ffs.

[@OnlyNobodyAtHome]

Breeh was voted for, but only be Legion and so the execution HAD to fail. Lewis had no choice. Sophie? the girl really was the only sensible person to die first. A Demon was unlikely to pick most of the other Legion players due to what they were claiming, and in Legion games it isn't recommended to kill good players at night much as at a disadvantage in numbers. In the second game, there was the fortune teller who did choose players, but the Empath, Chef, Librarian, Investigator, all DO NOT get to choose anything, they just get shown things. Lewis did a lot wrong, but you are the one who doesn't seem to know the rules.

[@mayormars5135]

Is Simon even part of this anymore?

[@boba69]

simon was in the first day for jingle cats and also he did his important videos stream. he joins in when he wants to - he has done content for a long time so let him take it easy. :)

[@totallycarbon2106]

He was also in the Jaffa Factory stream. But I think he's more or less retired at this point which is fair enough!

[@blockchaaain]

@@boba69 and he's in another stream today! (immediately before the greatest coffee show on youtube)